#Need help cutting card in my Evelyn the Covetous deck

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warped flare
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๐Ÿ˜‰

novel bramble
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Yeah great

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I actually love the Clear matte sleeves from Dragonshield

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for board games

warped flare
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nothing like those proxy alt AI "art" tho

novel bramble
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like Root

warped flare
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katana i got recommanded once before

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they do shuffle nicely

novel bramble
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I bought 3, 1 was dogshit out of the box

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the other 2 are good

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My sleeves of choice were the Ultra Pro Eclipse from 2012ish

warped flare
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i think i do want wotc to bring back the checklist cards every now and then

novel bramble
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Nothing ever beat that so far

warped flare
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so there is no need to flip cards to read

novel bramble
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Today's Eclipses are dogshit

warped flare
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but with a "sideboard pile"

novel bramble
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Yeah I get it

warped flare
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what happened to exlipse

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exlipse

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they used to be good

novel bramble
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They changed recipe.

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Replaced Canadian Maple Syrup with the cheap US garbage

warped flare
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i never got their good ones and i dont have any eclipse, i dislike the dragonshield with no art

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too plain

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oh yeah i hate whitei dont want plain sleeves

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mana symbol sleeveswould be the worst art for me

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they use maple syrup for plastic? XD

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no wonder why sleeves sticks

novel bramble
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You understand metaphors

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Anyway, if you ever had the old Dragonshield sleeves

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frmo earlydays

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I still have a pack here

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Holy garbage stickers

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Its like shuffling glue

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And I dont know if you remember the sleeves that came with some boxes in yugioh or Pokemon, with a decal on it

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that peeled after a week of use

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and sticked together like the pages of a teen Playboy

warped flare
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i've been more satisfy with my "order number listed" penny sleeves for years than trying to get soome $35 100-pack

novel bramble
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35$ fucking what lol

warped flare
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i mean on avg thats kinda like the price of some matte sleeves

novel bramble
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18$ for quality sleeves where I am. It just jumped from 15$ too

warped flare
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why do you think i rare use wavy $2+ penny sleeves

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rather

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its at least $25 + here for a long time

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if there is $30 before tax consider yourself lucky

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every penny sleeves are $2.50 for like almost a decade

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and the size are shrinking

novel bramble
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Do you live so far up north?

warped flare
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my old ones are longer so they stand out from the new ones

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Saskatchewan

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western canada pricing

novel bramble
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Saskatchewannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn tu m'as prit ma feeeeeeeeeeeeeemme!

warped flare
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tax is consider low tho

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used to be 10% until the last few years 11%

novel bramble
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...๐Ÿ™ƒ

warped flare
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but with the population over here, its kinda rough with trying to win over any favour from the federal government, who get most of the vote from the Eastern side of the country

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"oh this side of the country has more people, guess we will give them the benefits so they elect us the other side can screw themselves"

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But did you pay the mana1 % ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

novel bramble
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Don't worry, were getting fucked over here too

warped flare
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yeah i know

novel bramble
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15% here btw

warped flare
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its just a matter of front or back

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XD rekt โœ…

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pay mana4 some gross rhystic study you have there

novel bramble
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That a Mystic Remora without the upkeep

warped flare
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with any spells

novel bramble
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right

warped flare
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"whenever a player cast a spell while it is not your turn, you draw card. you may as well draw becasue they cant pay anything."

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"at the end of each turn, if nothing was pay, create a token copy of this permanent."

novel bramble
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Oh so thats why people never pay

warped flare
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inflation going strok

novel bramble
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"If nothing was paid, increase the representative's salary by 25%"

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"And cut in healthcare and education"

warped flare
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at least the new generation will support this, its call powercreep

novel bramble
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I'll live with my step childrens until I'm 60

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fuck me

warped flare
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"Your friendly neighbour, everyone's favourite character, spiderman from the magical in universal of new york"

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go thing i can live til i die at the old age of 40

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going to cook some noodles and then maybe look at your deck with comparison

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oooh, the payment should be accumulative

novel bramble
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Yeah lets return to Magic, our faraway land out of Drama and... wait.

warped flare
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"each upkeep, put a tax counter on this card. The next time a spell is casted this turn, that player may pay mana1 for each tax counter on a card, if he or she does, remove all tax counter. If no mana was paid, then you draw a card for each tax counter . "

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is this a more balanced rhystic
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novel bramble
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So its a "Draw one card per turn"

warped flare
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actually i think its a more broken one ring XD

novel bramble
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kinda shitty

warped flare
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no

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the counter stays

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if no one pays

novel bramble
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The player on your left will love you

warped flare
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cast, end turn. Upkeep, add one each upkeep

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the player one the right suffers the most if the next player doesnt pay

novel bramble
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[[Shadow of the second sun]]

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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i mean, on your own turn, it already gets the upkeep one that you have no reason to pay

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and then next upkeep its 2

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so draw 2

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next turn 3 draw 3

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as long as they cant pay, its going to be a lot

novel bramble
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Anyway

warped flare
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yeah i hate rhystic study too

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but after smothering tithe

novel bramble
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I hate smothering more

warped flare
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yes thats what i meant

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i always hate white more

novel bramble
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Draw upon draw is powerful but limited to the mana you have

warped flare
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draw has the same problem as tutor

novel bramble
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but Ramp upon ramp outscale the table hard

warped flare
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its is as good as the cards in the 99

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somewhat

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with bad enough jank, mana doesnt scale as good

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card draw wins better with value

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it comes down to how that value is paid out

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i prefer the selling your own blood for food type of interaction

novel bramble
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A smothering tithe unanswered is stronger than a Rhystic IMO

warped flare
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which roughly translate to punishment burn

novel bramble
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in my experience anyway

warped flare
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i think both are bad mainly because

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if that person can afford a $50 card

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they probably have other gross stuff in there

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esp the pre game changer era with everyone this is a 7/10

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Cedh supposely 10 but most people dont play or understand Cedh and competitive player thinks 10 is a 9.5 at best

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true 10 doesnt exist but it would be an interesting thought experiment

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i only have like 30 ish colourless cards for that

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almost everything is a good tutor from [[urza saga]] to explosive one shot win cons

zealous ridgeBOT
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https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/259/urzas-saga

Urza's Saga

Enchantment Land โ€” Urza's Saga
(As this Saga enters and after your draw step, add a lore counter. Sacrifice after III.)
I โ€” This Saga gains "manat: Add manac."
II โ€” This Saga gains "mana2, manat: Create a 0/0 colorless Construct artifact creature token with 'This token gets +1/+1 for each artifact you control.'"
III โ€” Search your library for an artifact card with mana cost mana0 or mana1, put it onto the battlefield, then shuffle.

warped flare
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dont own any except for the generic sol ring and cheap artifact stuff

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idk if i can make it B3 though

novel bramble
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gtg, ttyl

warped flare
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ttyl

novel bramble
# warped flare they probably have other gross stuff in there

I mean, some cards prices are way above what they should be. Esper Sentinel is a good example: a 1/1 creature that triggers only once per turn goes for 75 at the lowest.

The card aint that amazing. It doesnt break the game, nor is it hard to get rid of.

Smothering Tithe is the same price, but so much more impactful. It's also 75$. Rhystic is 100$

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and lets not go into Dual lands

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Seriously, lands should be cheap.

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and lands like gaia's cradle should just be outright banned

warped flare
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i mean in commander thats the socially acceptable rhystic and the payoff is basically insane for hardly any cost

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so rather than amzazing its just a generic filler that every slightly-competitive player are going to play it

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whenever a card comes with the lable of "why would you not play it if you are in that colour; type of staple", they are just generic good stuff

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they arent there for the unique one of a kind in the 99 experience, but many of those higher power cards with higher price tag tends to click the button for the player base

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its a psychological dopamine rush

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before even considering the actual power of the card, in comparison to other cards, secondary market, supply and demands , etc

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i dont think esper belong in lower power deck but i also dont mind it in lower power pod, so in a sense its both more balanced and not always synergistic with anything that comes with it

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esper sentinel*

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gaia cradle is lowkey socially banned

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B4 knows their pod, i feel like the "unlimited GC" is somewhat uneccesary to tell people who are already playing optimally

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GC is just ban list with extra step for those who prefer B2

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instead of some unofficial house ban

novel bramble
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B2 is also another way of saying "Please don't run removal"

warped flare
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thats not true

novel bramble
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Not as much anyway

warped flare
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its more so that lower power associate lack of removal with not interacting with your opponents

novel bramble
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got a guy that (granted he decided to play a B2 deck into B3) got... not mad but passive agressive after I counterspelled his [[Ruinous Ultimatum]]

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novel bramble
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After that everytime someone cast a spell he was like "Well? do you counterspell?"

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"Oh watch out thats a counterspellable card!"

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Kinda hilarious looking back at it

warped flare
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thats just salt because they are not used to playing against have blue mana open

novel bramble
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Aragorn doing its thing

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Ended up losing that one. Got mysteriously focused afterwards

warped flare
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[[counterbalance]] would be an interesting card if only there arent so much things going on in commander already

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warped flare
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all the chaos enchantment is what i would want to do

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counterspells are just different form of spot removal on the stack

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people dont like it for various reasons

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i prefer the 1 pip to catch others off guard

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and i dont like the universal "target anything" generic good stuff

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i think [[arcane denial]] is as far as i go

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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otherwise i always look for additional utility once i have to pay 2 or more mana

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sometimes i dont use counterspells correctly because i want to see what comes after, so thats just missing the oppotunity on my part

novel bramble
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I try to use counterspells on game ending moves or preventing a broken Commander, although the last one never hapenned yet

warped flare
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just kinda have to acept islands are the saltiest lands in commander

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surrounded by oceans and seas

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formed by countless weeping commander players

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there is always the potential of the salt maxing deck

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my build is obviously going to include blue white and resources denial similar to land destruction

warped flare
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i kinda want to do something with [[aerith last ancient]] and/or [[sephiroth fallen hero]]

zealous ridgeBOT
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https://scryfall.com/card/fic/471/aerith-last-ancient

Aerith, Last Ancient <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manag:292901508654301185><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Creature โ€” Human Cleric Druid
Lifelink
Raise โ€” At the beginning of your end step, if you gained life this turn, return target creature card from your graveyard to your hand. If you gained 7 or more life this turn, return that card to the battlefield instead.
"The flowers they ... they have something important to tell us."
3/5

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https://scryfall.com/card/fic/92/sephiroth-fallen-hero

Sephiroth, Fallen Hero <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manar:292901508796645397><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Creature โ€” Human Avatar Soldier
Jenova Cells โ€” Whenever Sephiroth attacks, you may put a cell counter on target creature. Until end of turn, each modified creature you control has base power and toughness 7/5. (Equipment, Auras you control, and counters are modifications.)
The Reunion โ€” mana3, Sacrifice a modified creature: Return this card from your graveyard to the battlefield tapped.
7/5

warped flare
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still havent find a copy of [[sera crystalize]]

zealous ridgeBOT
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No card found for โ€œsera crystalizeโ€

warped flare
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[[serra crysta]]

zealous ridgeBOT
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No card found for โ€œserra crystaโ€

warped flare
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[[sera fon]]

zealous ridgeBOT
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No card found for โ€œsera fonโ€

warped flare
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i forgot that commander you built

novel bramble
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[[Serah farron]]

zealous ridgeBOT
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https://scryfall.com/card/fin/240/serah-farron-crystallized-serah

Serah Farron <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manag:292901508654301185><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Creature โ€” Human Citizen
The first legendary creature spell you cast each turn costs mana2 less to cast.
At the beginning of combat on your turn, if you control two or more other legendary creatures, you may transform Serah Farron.
"Our own private heaven."
2/2

Crystallized Serah
Legendary Artifact
The first legendary creature spell you cast each turn costs mana2 less to cast.
Legendary creatures you control get +2/+2.
L'Cie who fulfill their Focus for their fal'Cie master are transformed into crystal and granted life eternal.

novel bramble
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New project. Game plan is to give others treasures to ramp and politics with

novel bramble
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Kinda hard to cut on this one; I don't have a lot of draw too.

warped flare
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finally you pick a commander that i ve always been interesting in, but i havent finished my final version and i believe its on the higher end in terms of quality cards and power

warped flare
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i think my concerns are: scaling (zulaport only cares about 1 board rather than multiple boards) ; counterintuitive game plan (things that cares about lot of birds in play and other get rid all birds for value or something) so the sequence of getting those will really hinder the deck, single card type with little synergy

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could be a lack of landfall focus? cobra is broken good but tireless is probably lot worse when the additional land isnt going smooth

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with nearly unblockable flying i think the snow serpent is just a bad toski

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tutors are all single type cards that doesnt trigger commander so it really depends on how important is the searched creature

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would be nice if there are more 1 for 2 draws to get more cards to cast

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especially permanents since those are the main focus on the deck

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even bounce lands allows reusing artifact lands and MDFCs

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[[return of the wild speaker]] just feels bit odd since its not exactly a go tall style deck, but its definitely not causing a major issue either

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warped flare
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i can forsee the deck having the side with all the additional land drops but not enough lands to play with, and the other side of not getting the duo type cards to make birds

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not sure if seedborn muse is getting too good of its benefit here

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since idk how much instant stuff matters here

warped flare
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draw: [[species specialist]], token [[second harvest]][[parrellel evolution]]

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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beast within is never bad, but the potential of triball gets you [[eyeblights ending]] & [[lignify]]

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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[[stinging study]] > wildspeaker draw here

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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[[gloomshriker]] is the duo type regrowth

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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i thought of [[hylda's crown of winter]] as the "jank" control draw

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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and with artifact focus, [[wickerfolk indomitable]] is an interest card

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warped flare
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[[semblance anvil]] best ramp

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novel bramble
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I'll keep note for a couple cards. I think overall the deck is ready for a draft, but I'm not printing anything for a while so we'll have to get back to it in a couple months

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Probably need to cut the worst creatures here, and maybe a land or 2 since I make a lot of treasures

warped flare
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equipment will be hard to do with low creature count tho

novel bramble
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I only have 2?

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I don't get it

warped flare
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i mean as you cut down creatures

novel bramble
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It will be fine lol, one of them is for Vazi, the other is just really good with anything

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Its at 38 creatures right now theres cuts in there for sure

warped flare
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i played proface breaker a bunch from the Cloud precon and its so nice to have that impulse draw

novel bramble
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The card is pretty good in most red decks yes

warped flare
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be like draw 2 from cloud and 2 more impulse + turn draw

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well vazi doesnt make her own treasures so

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do you want to play that overcosted "land you control creature treasures" enchantment

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it would be a fun one but its also kinda a useless card for a reason

novel bramble
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[[Bootlegger's stash]]?

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novel bramble
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Nah, 6 mana is way above its paygrade

warped flare
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rip "perfect fit"

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i will find a way to use that card in a deck

novel bramble
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slightly less perfect when you consider the cost

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6 mana do nothing is a high price to pay

warped flare
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i am not a fan of [[marching duodrone]] but maybe you can change that opinion

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novel bramble
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Would need Seedborn muse and tutors for her to even consider it

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Well theres not a lot of cards that create treasures for others

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its a necessary evil

warped flare
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its too friendly to be evil ๐Ÿ˜…

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whats that 5 drop one sided artifact wipe that resemble overloaded vandalblast

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its from the murder set

novel bramble
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No idea

warped flare
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[[powerleech]] thats not something i have seen

zealous ridgeBOT
novel bramble
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Its a cute card

warped flare
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thats some jank i approve, idek if its useful or not

novel bramble
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Might as well benefit from all those artifacts my opponents will have

warped flare
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and i can see it offsetting the life lost from things like BM connection

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and your aggressive use of MDFC

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do your Proxy MDFCs have both side well made?

novel bramble
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yes

warped flare
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because from sets with generic$$ cards i think i would be most interesting in proxying those

novel bramble
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You just gotta be careful to select the same artists for both sides

warped flare
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rn i only have like 3 of those MDFCs gifted from a friend and they all belongs in the B3 deck

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no idea how setting that stuff work ๐Ÿ‘ต

novel bramble
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Its pretty easy and intuitive

warped flare
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i wish there are better commit crime cards in the game, both flavourful and thematic in a politic deck

novel bramble
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you start by getting the cards+art you want from there

warped flare
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proxy can be foil too?!?

novel bramble
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Yeah but it cost a lot more

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better keep the default settings imo

warped flare
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secret lairs i would love to proxy XD just for hell of it

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the "textless" commander deck with DCI and SLD

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didnt know vazi had a special art

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and its fan made?!

novel bramble
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Lots of fanmade stuff

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Especially lands

warped flare
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can only imagine what the fan made stuff could be likfe

novel bramble
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You don't have to imagine, just go look.

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Very talented artists out there

warped flare
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i mean the gross ones

novel bramble
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Theres no porn in there no worries

warped flare
novel bramble
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Wanna talk [[Toph, metal bender]]

zealous ridgeBOT
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https://scryfall.com/card/tla/247/toph-the-first-metalbender

Toph, the First Metalbender <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397><:manag:292901508654301185><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Creature โ€” Human Warrior Ally
Nontoken artifacts you control are lands in addition to their other types. (They don't gain the ability to manat for mana.)
At the beginning of your end step, earthbend 2. (Target land you control becomes a 0/0 creature with haste that's still a land. Put two +1/+1 counters on it. When it dies or is exiled, return it to the battlefield tapped.)
3/3

novel bramble
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The most interesting part for me is the "Every artifact is also a land" and the fact that she can Earthbend artifacts, and if she does, those artifacts will return to the battlefield after dying.

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Which means, that artifacts that sacrifice themselves for value (Or lands that sac themselves to fetch more lands for example) will return to the field

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Note: Earthbending an artifact creature will reduce its P/T to 0, then give it +X counters, so artifact creatures with big P/T are actually not very interesting to play into this

novel bramble
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Btw, [[Monkey Cage]] has potential here

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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other than combo, i havent really looked too hard into it

novel bramble
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No combos

warped flare
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i mean as in didnt look at the toph decks

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i basically skip spoilers since they are kinda a wait of time and mental hype

novel bramble
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I don't care much since I can just print them. Anyway Avatar's right around the corner.

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I already went through everything that looked good, I think I'll make her into a pseudo landfall deck since she's very good at it

warped flare
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i do want to explore into the part where all your lands have counters with potential proliferate synergy

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yeah most green deck can run an amazing landfall core

novel bramble
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cards like [[Evolution sage]] are very potent yeah

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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[[exploration]] is probably one card that i wouldnt ever consider playing

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novel bramble
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But since even artifacts trigger Landfall its a great way to go about it

warped flare
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its like [[ashaya wild]] again but with artifacts XD

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novel bramble
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Pretty much

warped flare
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ohh let me check if you put in vitu gazi

novel bramble
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Same protection too, nothing can be targeted by the usual "Nonland permanent" spells

warped flare
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whatever that +9 counter legendary land thing is called

novel bramble
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[[Dark depth]] ?

zealous ridgeBOT
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https://scryfall.com/card/dmr/244/dark-depths

Dark Depths

Legendary Snow Land
Dark Depths enters with ten ice counters on it.
mana3: Remove an ice counter from Dark Depths.
When Dark Depths has no ice counters on it, sacrifice it. If you do, create Marit Lage, a legendary 20/20 black Avatar creature token with flying and indestructible.

warped flare
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even tho i never pulled off any ashaya combo win myself, i do love playing it in the 99 just so that i can counter any potential iconic rift

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not the land, its a sorcery that put 9 +1/+1 counters on a land

novel bramble
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Oh, no idea

warped flare
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its basically overcosted and dumb but its just kinda a funny thing

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it turns the land into a legendary with a name

novel bramble
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[[Liquimetal torque]] is in, to make Toph into an artifact and earthbend herself for protection

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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[[awakening vitu ghazi]]

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novel bramble
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Nice

warped flare
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[[!scion Vitu Ghazi]]

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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not sure about the lore behind it

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but , oh yeah i said sorcery but i meant instant

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5 mana is still kinda overcosted

novel bramble
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A bit

warped flare
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and there is always that flying infect artifact land

novel bramble
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Another Urza's Saga banger, since you can earthbend it

warped flare
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my dream one shot, turn that into an unblocked flyer poking for 1 infect

novel bramble
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[[Lotus Bloom]] also work for some good mana?

zealous ridgeBOT
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https://scryfall.com/card/tsr/270/lotus-bloom

Lotus Bloom

Artifact
Suspend 3โ€”mana0 (Rather than cast this card from your hand, pay mana0 and exile it with three time counters on it. At the beginning of your upkeep, remove a time counter. When the last is removed, you may cast it without paying its mana cost.)
manat, Sacrifice this artifact: Add three mana of any one color.

warped flare
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put 9 counters on it, then turn it into a 1/1 again

novel bramble
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or is it too slow

warped flare
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depends on the game

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in the high cost deck i think its kinda worth, but fast decks its relatively slow

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most decks that run it can cheap it out before 3 turns after used

novel bramble
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T1 play at best

warped flare
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but it is a "free" ability

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so as long as you have enough card draw

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its not the worst "dead" card to draw

novel bramble
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[[Constant mists]] is pretty good here too

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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but having to suspend it in a 4 player game is never great

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that card feels about as busted as maze of ith in Bracket 2

novel bramble
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lol

warped flare
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in here it is basically infinite

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i do like the potential of "wasting" just to sac a land at instant speed tho

novel bramble
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Yeah

warped flare
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i think its better as a combo piece

novel bramble
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get some good artifacts with strong ETB

warped flare
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its a lot stronger than sac a land gain 2 life

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But hey, Monkey Cage? ๐Ÿ˜Ž

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its almost "this card cannot be destroyed, sac a land, gain back all life from combat damage this turn"

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RECCURING Monkey cage?

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Monkeys for dys

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i am never against monkey cage

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its hard to abuse though

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tbh the landfall way might not have space for the monkeys

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but its still possible

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[[Hexavus]] my tech from my bello decks

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i think i got tired of landfall since i mainly focus around playing B2, the only landfall i still do is the mana and draw/ type of engine to make the rest of the deck function

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rather than the landfall = payoff

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Well I still don't have a landfall deck.

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getting 3 lands on avg gets repeatitive

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and I don't wanna make it the main focus. I want to Earthbend focus 1st, Landfall 2nd

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not too sure what you want to do with hexavus here

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Might not have much to do with Landfall when I'm done actually.

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Earthbend it.

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yeah i think it will be a tight list

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and idek lot of the avatar cards

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which will probaly directly support earth bending

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Toph cards Earthbend a lot

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There's like 5 of them

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5 Tophs

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Have you seen Avatar btw?

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no i didnt make it too far

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it wasnt in my childhood or adolescent years

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She's the best character by far in the whole series

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yeah i saw some of the clips with Toph

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i think the uncle is pretty good too

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Thats why I wanna make a deck with her.

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but they are not introduce at the very beginning

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Iroh is 2nd favourite I'd say

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to keep my interest to get to the best part of the show

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who is iroh

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The uncle

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oh XD ok lol

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yeah they are badass characters

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do you think you can run only boardwipes that doesnt kill your lands creatures

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or B act at a single mana needs to be in

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[[Hour of revelation]]

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depends on how much utility and versatility you are willing to sacrifice for more room

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i think out of ... assume i got 10 decks with red in it, i only run it in like 3-4

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it probably works in all of them and is better with it most of the time since a boardwipe at 1 manar is that good

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but it is something i ended up cutting for more thematic things to fit my own taste

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[[Devastating Mastery]]

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[[Fortunate few]]

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i saw you had [[!titania command]] in the rendmaw as well, did you came to liking that card

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Yeah

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fortunate few, thats one i have never seen in a game XD

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high price methinks

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white wipe be getting gross

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yeah, if wrath of god is the "standard" 5 mana do feel a bit high

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the one sided removal + attack freely is really good tho

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[[Tragic Arrogance]] is pretty good here

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yeah that one i do like

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because it gets around all the heroic and stuff

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[[Urza's ruinous blast]] is less white pip intensive

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that recent green creature from EoE can beat up T pro if they "fog" themselves to prevent damage i guess, but life total still cant change

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but urza is exile so its against kinda insane

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Yeah that doesnt matter

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oooh maybe you can do [[all is dust]]

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yeah, imo best wipe

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Meh, high price and not singletarget

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your land doesnt gain colour

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you want single target?

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no sorry

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Boardwipes for them not me

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All is dust is harder to cast properly

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meh, i dont think mana is a problem in green

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you dont have the tap indestructible duals

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Nah

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i think you want those other than darksteel citadel?

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Dont wanna put too many tapped lands

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Probably all the fetches tho

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idk if my own deck can make use of this but i am running it anyways [[ nantuko monastery]]

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The 7 in grave is probably not achievable consistently

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anyway, I'm trying to find a good balance in the lands, but I'll have to do it later

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yeah i just came across it since i was testing it out and saw it while looking for the right card

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there is a thing that when it is in grave

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way too many cuts to make I don't know what my mana basse will need to look like yet

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all your lands gain "add green or white"

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Heavy green for sure tho

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so its like a chromatic lantern in your grave

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[[restrore]] this one maybe nice to ramp as a "worse" ramp growth but it can steal from others too

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No card found for โ€œrestroreโ€

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[[restore]]

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Love the landspace lands in this tho

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[[Sheltering landscape]]

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yeah those are a cycle i dont have since i avoided MH set

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[[Flagstones of trokair]] is also a banger

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i know someone that played [[undergrowth recon]] i think its too slow

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true, flagstone is a perfect fit it seems

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i am looking at that in my search as well

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find the name [[riftstone portal]]

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Oh yeah

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Hard to put into grave still

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this card in grave, land you control have XD that was so many words i forgot is on it

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my brain thought it hasthreshold for a second

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if you draw enough, or turn it into something you sacrifice

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Crop rotation

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as always my favourite ramp involve [[ semblance anvil]] + artifact creature

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Yeah that would be best in there

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i think those always has a good potential

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i hardly even look through the entire list and i feel like thats the fit

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someday i want to do sorcery with it

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the green spellslinger deck

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[[Six]] retrace discard? XD

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Anyway gtg sleep, I'll sleep on it

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yeah got to sleep soon

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[[anthem of champions]] another green white card i wanted to test out in 0/0 creature deck, my commander would be [[nethrol apex of death]] using [[sigarda's summon]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/dmc/163/nethroi-apex-of-death

Nethroi, Apex of Death <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manab:292901508872273920><:manag:292901508654301185>

Legendary Creature โ€” Cat Nightmare Beast
Mutate mana4managwmanabmanab (If you cast this spell for its mutate cost, put it over or under target non-Human creature you own. They mutate into the creature on top plus all abilities from under it.)
Deathtouch, lifelink
Whenever this creature mutates, return any number of target creature cards with total power 10 or less from your graveyard to the battlefield.
5/5

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lack of haste is the annoying part tho

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Almost done with the deck

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Might be slightly green-oriented

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Pulled a fullart Ozai at my prerelease (Including a foil Xan shi Tong Borderless!) so I'm working on a deck for the guy

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I kinda wanna go Voltronish spell blaster

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Final boss vibe

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Also would like to make a [[Iroh Lotus]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/tla/227/iroh-grand-lotus

Iroh, Grand Lotus <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manag:292901508654301185><:manau:292901508754702338><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature โ€” Human Noble Ally
Firebending 2
During your turn, each non-Lesson instant and sorcery card in your graveyard has flashback. The flashback cost is equal to that card's mana cost. (You may cast a card from your graveyard for its flashback cost. Then exile it.)
During your turn, each Lesson card in your graveyard has flashback mana1.
5/5

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I still dont have a spellslinger and Quintorius is nice and all but I prefer Iroh honestly

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notes for the other decks... [[rootpath prifier]] [[deep cave]] that copy thing from grave fewer creatures more land things
[[the brother's war]] may work in Vazi for political control and finish off with big burn
came acrossed this one, have you ever looked into [[Amzu, Swarm's Hunger]] its so pricey from the one set until it gets a reprint

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Multiple cards match โ€œdeep caveโ€, can you be more specific?

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https://scryfall.com/card/brc/22/the-brothers-war

The Brothers' War <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manar:292901508796645397>

Enchantment โ€” Saga
(As this Saga enters and after your draw step, add a lore counter. Sacrifice after III.)
I โ€” Create two tapped Powerstone tokens.
II โ€” Choose two target players. Until your next turn, each creature they control attacks the other chosen player each combat if able.
III โ€” This Saga deals X damage to any target and X damage to any other target, where X is the number of artifacts you control.

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i think ozai need more big mana and ramp

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i think i would go for like [[thran dynamo]] rate of return

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some card that stands out to me would be [[leyline tyrant]] redundancy of keeping mana around, idk whenever it is worth since they are mainly for other firebend cards i assume

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chanrdra ignition and [[nibelheim aflame]] are also on the weird side because of the indestructibility? unless you target your commander for the wipe?

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but then the rate is hardly worth it at 4+ mana

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[[cavern of souls]] is probably fine with almost all the humans coming from avatar set

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ignoring the price budget

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looks like bot is dead at 6 am

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for mass mana, i also wants revel in riches ,[[mana geysaralready in & [[goldspan dragon]]

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i would remove [[sheoldred's edict]] since it s giving lot of choices to your opponent when you have strong target options

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brother s war ends kills baiscally all your own stuf tpp

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all the flashback from other effect like backdraft hellkite seems like mizzix mastery with extra steps

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with nor targetting cards, idk how important it is to run nowhere to hide, but it works nicely in general and makes redirect easier

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not enough colourless cards f0r Liberator to shine flash

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[[vslley of boulders ]] also seems to be a bit weak for its cost without reduction

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until the deck is 99 cards, its a bit hard to gp;dfosj whenever it is consistent 3 mana (lands) opening hand; ideally with a ramp

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lot the spells do have a somewhat condition/ restricted timing so they arent a freely castable spell at all times

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makes firebending student prowess that much weaker on your turn

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fellwar stone may not always get your colours. in my locals, some players never play rakdos at all

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sword of war and peace is probably the weakest one from my experience

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rise of sozin seems a bit janky. i dislike the chapter wipe that will suck up all the mana that would normally give commander indestructible

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if it is phyrexian scipture chap2 wipe that wouldnt be an issue

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i wouldnt do swiftboots here unless i need that top 8 option

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greaves for free equip fire bending

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otherwise, open yourself for the potential redirect play

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more in flavour of rise of the day

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i think extra combat are easy to cut because they WILL work with firebending; they are like the "best cards" tutor in there that can be added in later to adjust power level

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i got myself the one from assassins creed that can be freeruned if commander connects

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while relentless assault is exactly 4 mana

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and the full throttle is probably the strongest with triple combats in a single turn

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Rolling Temblor seems meh

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I'll work on Ozan next and keep your advice on notes. Thanks

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i think the human tribal + mana remains part makes me want to do [[warping wail]] + [[secluded courtyard]] unexpected counter play

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my best guess is that even without the commander, you should be able to somewhat store up a decent amount of big mana play with firebending

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iroh do seems more interesting with the lesson build around, although many lessons seems to be staple/reprints

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there is basically a white version of [[release the wind]]

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using air bending and it draws a card

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but since its white instead of blue, i have even less of a chance to use it in my decks

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i want this so much upon first look

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dang i need to watch avatar to learn all the reference

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i assume she is more of a villain?

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i dont see this here, imo the most important creature [[temur battlecrier]]

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this WORKS on thousandyear storm etc

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idk how many lessons you want or if you prefer the more powerful stuff

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i actually used [[containment breach]] in just janks and its basically a worse krosan grip / beast within for its function, in here i is 2 spells but doesnt solve the sorcery speed problem

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so the [[origin of metalbending]] wins big time

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as weird it may sound, idk if bala ged recovery is necessary when nearly all your spells has flashback

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its just a tapped land that increase you mana cast to recast sth

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[[lier disciple of the drowned]] also seems redundant

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if you have [[rune of archmage]] cast trigger the effect of the spell wont matter

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which is probably going to be more useful that golbin electromancer

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the [[case of ransack lab]] seems perfect here?

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4 spells on your turn to solve before it becomes emeritus

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only 2 lessons needed

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[[keen sense]]

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times to teach you a lesson

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""

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most interesting card i saw today and it was from EDHrec [[spatial binding]]

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For everything else, yeah old lessons from older sets got powercrept for the most part.

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i mean temur has all the ramps

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i think the case is the most fitting here

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with commander at 5 mana, 4 mana emeritus should be ok as well

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Already 20 pieces of Draw tho, No idea what to cut for Emeritus

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No problems in trading piece for piece, but since I'm cutting right now I gotta cut

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oh right confused iroh with something else

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i think we have draw and ramp reversed in building/play style

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I'd like to cut some ramp but at the same time its hard to cut ramp in simic colors

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i have like 25 + ramp and you try to do 22+ draws

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Im at 20 draw 25 ramp rn

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i mean in general rather that this specfic case, and in the final producy

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not in the middle of looking at the deck now since i am just lurking

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Depend on deck/colors, I always try to get as much draw as I can fit into without removing key pieces

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mostly because my worst games are when I'm sitting with nothing in hand and no draw engine on board

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i think you hav to cut ramp

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i run enough janks to do random stuff even when i have to top deck

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so draw engine is hardly my biggest concern

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removals i can play with bare minimium

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like 9ish pieces in the 99

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including counterspell etc

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15 interactions rn. Most are from lessons so its fine, the other ones are either core stuff or it goes well with Iroh

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like [[Submerge]]

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thats just 2 instances of get that boi out of here for free. Twice

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Sadly most free spells are not that great with Iroh

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[[Reverent Silence]] was another one I liked, but I run too many enchantments

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if you math out the number of lessons you want + some staples and mana sources

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i think you can go by process of elimination how much room left to keep

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also, when i try to run generic removals, i try to look for something that i can "use" on myself

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without top deck manipulation, tucking doesnt seems that thematic

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and i doubt you want to "protect" your own creature by putting it back into the library

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Its a tempo play

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Would you rather draw your commander, or recast it for mana2 more?

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yes, but if there are 15 cards that say "mana0 removal target creature off the board for one turn"

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you can never fit all of them into a deck

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so you have pick the top X instead

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Which I did

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its top 1

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Snap is the other one

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what removals you got left

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with free spells, you can reduce another cost reduction/ramp

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counterspells are like the same card, the lesson is the obvious worse one

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i think i wouldnt play that because the flashback is limited to your turn

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is price of freedom worth a slot

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if yes, have to cut draw

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or something else etc

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Here's somebody elses advice

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I don't agree with most tho

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idr whats alania

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what server is that from

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[[torph hardheaded teacher]] how do they cut this

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https://scryfall.com/card/tla/246/toph-hardheaded-teacher

Toph, Hardheaded Teacher <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manar:292901508796645397><:manag:292901508654301185>

Legendary Creature โ€” Human Warrior Ally
When Toph enters, you may discard a card. If you do, return target instant or sorcery card from your graveyard to your hand.
Whenever you cast a spell, earthbend 1. If that spell is a Lesson, put an additional +1/+1 counter on that land. (Target land you control becomes a 0/0 creature with haste that's still a land. Put a +1/+1 counter on it. When it dies or is exiled, return it to the battlefield tapped.)
3/4

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it s literally lesson build around with generic recovery

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earthbend is lowkey broken

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even on an evolving wild, you are using going to get +1 off your lands dying

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or free creatures that are hard to remove

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He might not see the play there

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i can see putting more focus on the current commander but its still hard to cut a creature that is basically built for the set + mechanic synergy

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Yeah I'm not agreeing with most like I said

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ik

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[[Alania divergent storm]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/blb/204/alania-divergent-storm

Alania, Divergent Storm <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manau:292901508754702338><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature โ€” Otter Wizard
Whenever you cast a spell, if it's the first instant spell, the first sorcery spell, or the first Otter spell other than Alania you've cast this turn, you may have target opponent draw a card. If you do, copy that spell. You may choose new targets for the copy.
"Why would I chase the storm? Does a cloud chase the rain? Does the sun chase the light?"
3/5

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thats alania

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just kinda riduclous at that point

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ah alania i can somewhat understand

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if its not otters its kinda

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[[double vision]]

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but i love doubling too much so i would basically play both in the 99 whenever i can

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Alania is better than Double vision thats certain

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with otters in the 99 then i dont think you have reasons to cut alania

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yeah

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She procs once on both Instant and sorcery

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yeah

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i got myself one but never have a chance to use

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Felt easy to just double trigger from all my graveyard stuff

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hard to do legends in the 99 with no tutors

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playing close to 80 cards in a game is kind of the limit

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assume the game is not indefinite 3hrs + with shuffle and life gain and never clear the board or only boardwipes after wipes

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Lets go over every cuts then. Alania is a maybe.

Electro seems insane to me, thats all my Lessons for free, and if I have spell ramp, its positive mana for every lessons I cast from grave

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and I dont lose the Firebending mana from Iroh as a small bonus

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electro is birgi powercreep

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right

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[[abandon attachments]]

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i think its kinda hard to cut new avatar cards to begin with

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Its a lesson too

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because they are never playtested

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Gotta at least try them out with the lesson commander

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and you just want to play new cards

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exactly

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I see this as a (3 mana, discard 2 draw 4)

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"my suggestion is that you dont play this commander." "WTF is that suggestion"

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hybird mana and instant speed is relevant too

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you can discard on opponents turn and flash back on your turn

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For Kindlespark Duo,

Its the same as with Electro, but I need something that makes me tap my creatures for mana.

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if [[thrill of possibility]] is playable in most 99

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With that on board it untaps everytime I cast a spell, I can tap it again for mana

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etc

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this one is really not that bad with lesson synergy

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Can cast every lessons for free yes

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[[!Kindlespark Duo]]

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hmmm

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I play [[Enduring vitality]] and co

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other than otter and untap its kinda whatever

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with iroh out

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you have 6 mana

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its not that great without Iroh yeah

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i dont think a forced manadork like this is that great

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I see the point yeah

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its a bad "4- card combo"

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i would play keen sense and curioiuity

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[[Chakra Meditation]]

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curiousity

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Thats just draw

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so thingsl ike guttersnipe is going to draw 3

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I can agree with this one.

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and let me swap out card draw engine

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starts with the balaged recovery, and then cast trigger draw

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but if you run out of lessons you have discard

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but discard fills oyur grave with lessons

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Compared to [[Secrets of the dead]] though, I feel like Chakra is better here

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so its hard to say

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yeah i would cut secrets dead first

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since everything has flashback, I get double value from my spells

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I can also discard lands, I run Lumra

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and Icetill

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[[Price of freedom]]

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lumra outside of land matter deck is kinda whatever to me

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but its never a bad creature

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lowkey in the good stuff category

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Lesson. Kills lands, cantrips

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yes it always has a target

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but it can very much be "wasted" without a good target

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Probably me playing too many players running good lands but I know he's not liking this card because I know his decks don't have basic lands LOL

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XD

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meta game pick then you need it

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Yeah, player I play with a lot runs Glacial Chasm

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personally i always rate sword > path because giving a land drop is usually a lot more significant than some life even if its like 10+

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and I see my fair share of Cabal coffers, Evendo and co.

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but against people who does run enough basics

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and high enough power/greed mana base

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Then I can blow up Command Towers

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at wqorst

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in my pods with people who either experienced stax, or people that are few months into the game

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At worst its an artifact destroyer that draws me a card still

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i have no good target and owuld end up getting a duo if not a basic land

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just to get that lesson out of my hand for a card draw

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so its a [[think twice]] in my case XD

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Sol Ring Destroyer

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its worth making them ramp a land

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i run enough sol ring removals in my good decks its usually not a problem, but its basically a free lesson in this deck

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[[Surge to victory]]

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i dont play blasphemist act when my deck doesnt survive the burn/ play off it

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surge i dont think i need to defend that card

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its like one of the best fun win con

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I like the combo with [[Stormsplitter]]

zealous ridgeBOT
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unless you have absolutely no creatures to swing with

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i havent got one but i would do like [[wizard of thay]] with it

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insane combat trick

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Oh thats a nice dude

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the -3 mana tho

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i have so much sorcery jank to play with that

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and ofc i wouldnt have space for 2 drop that reduce mana cost by 1 unless its like the otter to copy or something

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and i dont think its perfect here when you alraedy have the [[!temur battlecrier]]

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i am still waiting for a cheap copy

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its a bit more annoying with basic land mana base

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but i want to get out some super big turns with thousand year storm, possibility storm

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be playing 7 cmc over and over

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High Fae Trickster feels cuttable

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[[Valley Floodcaller]] is just better here

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yeah you are not exactly instant speed flash type of deck

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I got tutors for Floodcaller anyway

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Last card is [[Elven chorus]]

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hmm

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It was purely for the tap effect

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not much off the top creature cast i assume

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I got tutors and [[Enduring Vitality]]

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can do rite

novel bramble
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Rite is also in

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It can go I think

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yeah i mean rite alone

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is fine

novel bramble
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Enduring is better with the tutors

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if the deck dont get a creature like 1/3 of the time

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top deck cast is wasted text box space

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endure doesnt die easily

novel bramble
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Yeah

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Works better

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can survive your blasphemy

novel bramble
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Valley+Enduring with a couple more otters means almost infinite mana

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your cost is low enough

novel bramble
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adding Stormsplitter is game

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you can try the weaker one first and adjust with the stronger one

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like swap out the electro birgi thing to see if you can do otters

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and then see the difference with electro

novel bramble
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Thoughts on Guttersnipe vs [[Longshot rebel]]

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oh wow

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two in one

novel bramble
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for 1 more mana

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yeah but cost reduction (in a vacuum evulation) is byfar worth more than just the burn alone

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if it is a direct 1 to 1 comparison

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longshot wins SLIGHTLY

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Its all noncreature spells too. Better ramp than the instant+sorc ones

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in a deck where you run creature spells and non creature spells, instant sorcery, 3 /4 mana curve

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it changes everything

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i dont think it replaces guttersnipe but it can probably replace cost reducer or ramp or 1 damage pinger

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3/3 reach body is something too

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can block basically anyhting without unblockable

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Yeah hes good

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it is a card that is Almost 4 lines of text

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by memory what does [[!questing beast]]

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do

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3 keywords + 3 sentence but everyone forgets after the 2nd part/line

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its like the funniest mini game you can pull out of the blue

novel bramble
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I'll never forget the damage cant be prevented part

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XD

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people confuse the planeswalker part as planeswalker deathtouch

novel bramble
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It almost is, considering its 4 power

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but i mean the vraska one shot on planeswalker

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So overall I cut 4 from the other suggestions. I'm almost there

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just need 5 more.

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[[Veyran voice of duality]]

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SO good with Stormsplitter

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And a lot of other cards. so no cut

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yeah that one pops up too much, cant really cut double trigger unless its a game play experience issue

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if you want to lower power level, veyran is a easy cut

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it screams infinite mana with those storm matter things

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i think below 3 mana there isnt much to discuss since those are nearly free if not free spells

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4-5 are the hard ones

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and sometimes 1 drop if they lack the return-value

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those are really hard to calculate outside of a real game

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from oppotunity cost and whatever macro economic and probablity %

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at which point i will be pulling stuff out of my ass because i am asian and i dont do math

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Rofl

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But I agree

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i am like... so i play commander for the big fun 7 drop

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why would i cut what i want to play if it is "technickly" playable over a small 1 drop value

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i wish i can find myself playing [[!esper sentinel]] someday

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i dont really dislike the card but its also something i cant see myself getting even if it is $10

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balance rhystic is still not fun

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I get it.

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Just realized, surge of victory has barely any targets now. Ive cut most damaging spells

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I used to have lightning bolt and grapeshot in the list

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Its true that without them its gonna be a lot of draw instead, but its not a wincon anymore

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no big spells left?

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did you stray too far from the lessons and ended up with cast trigger deck XD

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you are going to love the new GK video with Bumi card, katara value, cabbage man cabbage tokens

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[[catalyst stone]] may not be doing that much when there are all the cost reducers

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it is kind of a worse doc aurlock

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i will b honest i straight up dont know how to make good use of [[gift ungiven]] even though it is functionally a Painful Choice from ygo (tutor 5 mill 4 of those 5 cards to grave) because its hard to get the 2 you need in hand to reuse for the situation, even with 4 lessons pick

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i feel like the last cuts are either the creature-tutor/redundant ramp/4 drop that feels too slow

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kinda like unexpected windfall being a strictly worse big score

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[[mascot exhibilition]] XD love this card, may finally get to see it used in a deck? i think it would be so nice with surge to victory

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the problem with catalyst is basically not reducing cost from hand

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i think there is a small chase DOc aurl shares that same problem and would just get swaped by eletrocmancer

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lot of it is due to the flashblack reduction only matters with commander out

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most cards dont normally get casted from graveyard

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no impulse/delay fire ball - cascade gambling off the top storm

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doctor who also has lot of those support as well as [[the lost and the damned]] which i believe also went up in price with all the red draw stuff

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temple of the false god is too risky with 36 total lands

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not good when your land count in the 99 will keep decreasing with fetches

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essentially looking at a ~ 30 land count 99 trying to get 5 out on board on curve

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[[!wan shi tong libr]] perhaps the most broken & expensive card from the set?

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i feel like it is not very on theme with lessons but is the generic good card auto include as the "improved" [[fairie mastermind]]

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meta game power level pick it will draw tons of cards

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the worse thing tho is that it doesnt contribute to the non creature spell count for spellslinger triggers

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i think it is already good but the full potential is not unleashed unless there is a "forced tutoring" theme

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if there is a creature to cut, that maybe one of them

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with cord of calling green sun, and devastation i thing [[dryad arbor]] is a must have

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https://scryfall.com/card/dsc/273/dryad-arbor

Dryad Arbor

Land Creature โ€” Forest Dryad
(This land isn't a spell, it's affected by summoning sickness, and it has "manat: Add manag.")
"Touch no tree, break no branch, and speak only the question you wish answered." โ€”Von Yomm, elder druid, to her initiates
1/1

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and out of those 3 greeen tutor i would probably cut one

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[[!cord of calling]] have the high casting cost with green convoke part but with generic covoke then [[!finale of devastation]] would normally be the highest cost

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the haste and hoof buff makes it worth it though so powerwise finale is byfar better

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doubt the instant part matters too much

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as there should be no next-turn for the opponent once you go off

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for lessons [[combustion technique]] might be an early cut after testing since it cares about grave

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its a bad [[shock]] even with exile

zealous ridgeBOT
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i can see it doing like 5 damage on a good day but the floor is also low depends on play test

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i would like you to split your ramp into ramp that can only be used for instant sorcery and ramp that helps casting the commander

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with the green sun + dyrad, technically it can be a ramp spell

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trying to see when is doc aurl worth tutoring over otter

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creature count so low XD

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with the weird mix of spells and creature tutor, i almost feels like [[splended reclaimation]] has a better spot

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mainly because of cost reduction and reusability

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but total creature count is already low so idk

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Toph earth bending to make 1/1 will really matter here

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going wide also gives finale dev more value

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cord is my cut unless i am missing something big

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temple -> dryad arb

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and with catalyst stone out, that is exactly 100 cards

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i think i want the MDFC monk more than the land removal one

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to up creature count and it comes with spell recovery

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but thats a meta call since you care more about the nonbasic land destroy

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were there any X spells in this build at any point or that was pheonix

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vivi birgi electro stormkiln there are so much redundancy in the game now perhaps it will be near infinite with one or two out, but i dont want to do the math of getting X spell and the next game winning spell [[electro dominance]]

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i think i never drew this in my games, i just want to use it to cast a 0 cmc card

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or copy it a ton with zada if i ever build that

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or feather but with crazy janks

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[[feather redemn]]

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No card found for โ€œfeather redemnโ€

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[[feather the redeemed]]

zealous ridgeBOT
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aaaand that works with impulse draw ofc

novel bramble
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Huge ramp into Ozai ASAP, then get value through Firebending and extra combat steps.

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Wincon is either Commander damage with combat tricks or big X spell like Crackling or Torrent

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Voltronish, final boss vibes

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Lots of wheel effects to draw through my deck. Very efficient in terms of finding my wincon

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btw, assume you have access to both abilities but seperately, which do you prefer more: indestructible vs Hexproof

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i think from my games, its usually counterspells and hexproof

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no one really do [[flawless manuver]]

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and i dont really see toxic deludge much below B3

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other than the boardwipe superfriend player, i probably have the most boardwipes since i replace all my single target for X for 1 removals

warped flare
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i used it in [[zirda dawn]] and that was it

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https://scryfall.com/card/iko/233/zirda-the-dawnwaker

Zirda, the Dawnwaker <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manarw:292901508834525190><:manarw:292901508834525190>

Legendary Creature โ€” Elemental Fox
Companion โ€” Each permanent card in your starting deck has an activated ability. (If this card is your chosen companion, you may put it into your hand from outside the game for mana3 as a sorcery.)
Abilities you activate that aren't mana abilities cost mana2 less to activate. This effect can't reduce the mana in that cost to less than one mana.
mana1, manat: Target creature can't block this turn.
3/3

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unless it is firebend X i doubt you want multiple uses of double power

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red can double power in less than half the cost of 7

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assume you know already, [[rakdos charm]] source of damage is the controller's own creature. therefore it will not be affected by damage doubler/etc

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[[firebending ascension]] do seems to be on the slow side

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4 is a lot for red as well as attack triggers

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bit too many artifact is very risky to removals

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i doubt tapped rocks are needed

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unless you really want the knuckle win con

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i cant call sheoldred s edict interaction unless each of them only have a sinle thing to sac

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pyroblast may work but bit conitional

novel bramble
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Rare to see a game without at lest one guy having blue in his colors

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Worst case I'm blowing up his commander

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What can get Ozai to 21+ dmg besides Wine of Blood and Iron and Bulk Up in one go?

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If I can find something cheaper then sure

novel bramble
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thats the "and other" part

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anyways gtg to work

novel bramble
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have fun

warped flare
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๐Ÿ˜’

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ofc

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i will

novel bramble
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Im actually having a lot of issue cutting in Ozai, I have too much wincons for sure

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but they feel all pretty good

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I'm wondering if I'm better off going the extra combat route, since Firebending synergize well with it

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I wanted to keep at least one X spell that I can cast at instant speed

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i think there's always two sides

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the stuff you want to play vs the good stuff that makes it better/stronger

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X spells win cons are some of my cuts here

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order for cuts: tutor -> win cons/removals > draw/ramp

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commander being voltron is lowkey a win con

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Yeah, I already have no tutors, the wincons are either big spells or extra combats, not that much interaction

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Draw are mostly wheel effects, which is good, Ramp is ramp

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I'm trying to find the balance

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[[uncle iroh]] just saw this card

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seems too weak tho

warped flare
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ohh and [[sokka's haiku]] xD

zealous ridgeBOT
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looking at cost and effect pay-off, i think [[seize the day]] is just the better [[relentless assault]] which no longer has a place (or similar extra combat)

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[[roaming throne]] isnt that much better than the stonic resonator or [[peter parker camera]]

zealous ridgeBOT
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when there are hardly any creatures

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i have yet to test [[the last agni kai]] but when you dont have too many creatures out, its kinda hard to fight

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they are essentially the "equipments" of the deck

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cards that do nothing when commander is not out gets a nerf to them

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i have games where even [[reverberate]] is dead because everyone is playing creatures

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so i have to copy my own spell like big score, and it becomes a mana6 two card combo rather than the discounted ramp/tutor

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bolt bend reduction has less than 10 things in the deck, and not of this world is only playable with commander

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protection and interaction seems to be most of my cuts to get it down to 99

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in the rare case where you can respond with ritual spells to destroys, those acts as interactive protection as well

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without knowing your LGS meta, i would think that things that has no affect on creatures are generally going to be less playable

novel bramble
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Thtas the point of reverberate in my deck anyway

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Or counter a counterspell

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And since the point of the deck is to get Ozai out asap, then its fine if I have some bricks when he<s not out. Plan is very one-dimensional

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Ive made cuts to 105 for now