#Need help cutting card in my Evelyn the Covetous deck

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the mana symbol is still there

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just missing the border and tilted to the side i cut

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so everything can be off sided

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no mana1 [[!orcish oriflamme|aph]

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[[!orcish oriflamme|aph]] hope this works

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No card found named โ€œorcish oriflammeโ€ in โ€œaphโ€

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[[!orcish oriflamme|LEA]]

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the ultimate misprint

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I dont see it

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[[goblin oriflamme]]

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  • Fail recall knowledge check**
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consider the year that old card came out

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[[!orcish oriflamme]]

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heres the real one

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Yeah ok

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I mean, now its just super weak at 4 mana lol

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that effect used to be mana4 but the reserve list or whichever one was broken. there was a time wher cards are played as shown rather than using online source for errata text

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nowadays there is oriflamme where it is the powercreep

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from a misprint at the time

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Yeah

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Oh btw here's the Bello cards from Edge of eternity that could fit:

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First one is meh but the rest are interesting

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or bello in the 99

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<.<

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as the secret commander

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What in the heresy

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the end stone is kinda broken

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Oh yeah

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if cast spell that were copied it still triggers

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elevator is just a free thrano

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i mean same effect

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not the same cost but more upsided

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i wonder if you can find a way to give your creatuers vigiliance

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Yeah, when you get it at 20 charges its just a cast your whole hand mana dork

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so they can be "crewed" aka station afterward

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[[Akroma's memorial]]

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Artifact bello has some disgustingly strong cards

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just need the ramp

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what i see [[$Akroma's memorial]]

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Yep

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I'm done paying 100$ for cards lol

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custom art too?

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Depends, you can use custom and there are some customs made by other people that you can check out

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I usually use regular art for the 99 for spells that arent super common

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I will try to find a nice Rocket Racoon art for the Artifact Bello

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this face for raccon seems nice

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something similar to this

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eyeah its fine

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i like more ... chaotic energy

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rawr at anyone you see

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thats prrety good

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full body groot took away part of the focus

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feels more like raccon & Groot like those partner cards

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or 2 character as one

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Just zoom in lol

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You get the point anywya

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mini groot on Rraccon on big groot

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is the combination we need

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I honestly wish there were more useable Spaceships

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hence i said secret commander

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use 5c spaceship

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havent seen them

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[[infinite guideline]]

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Legendary Artifact โ€” Spacecraft
When Infinite Guideline Station enters, create a tapped 2/2 colorless Robot artifact creature token for each multicolored permanent you control.
Station (Tap another creature you control: Put charge counters equal to its power on this Spacecraft. Station only as a sorcery. It's an artifact creature at 12+.)
STATION 12+
Flying
Whenever Infinite Guideline Station attacks, draw a card for each multicolored permanent you control.
7/15

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Been focused of the Gruul / colorless ones

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going to eat dinner ๐Ÿƒโ€โžก๏ธ

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++

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do you like 3+ cards combo in some decks [[proteus machine]]

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Whats the combo with this?

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Weve talked about Serah Farron a couple times, but she could be an interesting commander.

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Heavy creatures deck focused on legendaries. Big beaters for cheap

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it is like the only 0 cost flip that fits in green

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other "costless" flip are in like black or something

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and it needs at least a sac outlet so the combo is both more than 2 cards and flexible with basically any sac outlet

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also, are the liquimental artifact in your bello build

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or not needed

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[[Liquimetal Torque]] you mean? I think its a bit gimmicky

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Looking at my deck, it wouldnt work with any creature

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Except [[Pinnacle Monk]]

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Creature โ€” Djinn Monk
Prowess (Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, this creature gets +1/+1 until end of turn.)
When this creature enters, return target instant or sorcery card from your graveyard to your hand.
Narset brought the Jeskai djinn ancient wisdom and the promise to challenge the status quo.
2/2

Mystic Peak
Land
As this land enters, you may pay 3 life. If you don't, it enters tapped.
manat: Add manar.
"Fear not the fall. Fear never reaching the pinnacle." โ€”Narset

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Finally got my Evelyn cards

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gonna test it out tonight

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i have yet to get both the rock and vandal blast in a single game

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otherwise it is just a 2 mana ramp

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if you whole deck is big aritfact then you are better off with [[brotherhoods end]] instead

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[[bello, bard bram]]

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i doubt you want to use the first mode unless bello isnt on board tho

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i think i saw a new red wipe from edge of eternity that is like a improved version of brotherhood

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so that reminds me

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You can always regen/indestructible or w/e bello before blowing up the board

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But Blasphemous act is still the best for that imo

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You ramp hard so at worst just recast bello

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the one from edge seems to only exile 3 or less MV artifact

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and deal damage to each opponent

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Back from my lgs. I have a newfound hatred for [[alania divergent]]

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Legendary Creature โ€” Otter Wizard
Whenever you cast a spell, if it's the first instant spell, the first sorcery spell, or the first Otter spell other than Alania you've cast this turn, you may have target opponent draw a card. If you do, copy that spell. You may choose new targets for the copy.
"Why would I chase the storm? Does a cloud chase the rain? Does the sun chase the light?"
3/5

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Also, having a Aragorn 4 colors, mardu, and a mono blue players without any kind of interaction whatsoever the whole game was infuriating

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People make solitaire decks. Ffs

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Had to play police all night. Didnt have fun

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I tested Evelyn. Lost all 3 games, but its mainly because of my inexperience reading the 20+ cards that my opponents played. 3/4 being complete dogshit cards that only low bracket 2 players would play. The power level were completely out of wack

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On one side you had a players that didnt cast anything until turn 5. I stole nothing interesting from him. A Zurgo player had interesting cards... for his deck. Last guy had interesting cards but I got super unlucky on my land drops. Couldnt cast what I wanted. Had to waste the evelyn casts on lands, and didnt steal much instants even from my own deck.

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I switched the vampire suspects we talked the other day. Strefan and Ange. They cost too much and I always need open mana for counters. Replaced them with 2 mana vamps

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Anyway. Last game I played my hobbits and someone played Da Vinci, shat 2 Portal to phyrexia in a row with another artifact that makes copies, and I got stuck playing police because the other guy didnt have interactions

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I'll probably remove [[Captain sisay]] but she needed to be mentioned because of how powerful she is in this deck

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I hesitate to put Sol Ring in for now because of Serah's effect. It will depend of what I put in the deck afterwards

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Interactions from creatures like [[Loran of the Third]] will def be better over sorceries or instants in this deck

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I havent checked every Selesnya cards yet but I assume there are some more bangers

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[[Tolsimir friend to wolves]] Nice card. Wolf is buffed by Serah AND it fights something upon ETB

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[[Sovereign Okinec Ahau]] +2/+2 to your whole board if he attacks with Serah's buff. nice

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XD

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a mono blue players without any kind of interaction i felt called out by this

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being complete dogshit cards that only low bracket 2 players would play. i am getting called out again XD

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[[ worn shaku]]

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basically the same thing as relic

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but makes colourelss

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and can tap flipped serah

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instead of counterspell type of card, i prefer [[mystic reflection]]

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it kinda create the same scenario with [[protect witness]]

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so they are really slowed down from recasting that commander

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soft stax include 99 [[arcane lab]]

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it hurt yourself less if you have flash spell or abilities

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the biggest downside would be in some high power games, it doesnt hurt certain decks that can play around it and it stops you from casting 2 counterspells on different players; assume you do have 2

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but i would do that since it stops enough things its worth it

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anyways [[reidance god of the worthy]] is a fun one but its not outstanding

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No card found for โ€œreidance god of the worthyโ€

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[[reidane god of the worthy]]

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Legendary Creature โ€” God
Flying, vigilance
Snow lands your opponents control enter tapped.
Noncreature spells your opponents cast with mana value 4 or greater cost mana2 more to cast.
2/3

Valkmira, Protector's Shield mana3manaw
Legendary Artifact
If a source an opponent controls would deal damage to you or a permanent you control, prevent 1 of that damage.
Whenever you or another permanent you control becomes the target of a spell or ability an opponent controls, counter that spell or ability unless its controller pays mana1.

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yeah iknow

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it just gives lot of mana and tapping a useless piece on board >.<

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the potential for a big sorcery or X legendary is nice

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whats the name of the elf that brings a cat

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[[drizzt do urden]]

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two legendary one card

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I know that movie

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movie>?

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oh okay lol

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i thought it is too niche

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with this many creatures in the deck

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lowkey was making the pun

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I'm an old fart I've seen the rsise of the internet too

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i have more years on the internet than my actual age allows

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aged me twice as much for about 15+ years

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did you try guardian project then? i dont own this one since it is pricer

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Oh man, the early years of Newgrounds, Ogrish and all the nasty stuff that you could get exposed as a kid lol.

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priceier

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newgrounds wasnt that bad <.<

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Weeeeeeell there WERE porn links on the sides you know

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its now like leak vid with extra NSFW stuff

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not*

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no

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more like NSFlife

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๐Ÿ˜

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I wanna dig for more draw from Legendaries before putting in Guardian and Beast Whisperer

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fair enuf

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Like [[Toski bearer]]

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i see this one that makes a legendary token but [[battle at the helvault]]

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Enchantment โ€” Saga
(As this Saga enters and after your draw step, add a lore counter. Sacrifice after III.)
I, II โ€” For each player, exile up to one target non-Saga, nonland permanent that player controls until this Saga leaves the battlefield.
III โ€” Create Avacyn, a legendary 8/8 white Angel creature token with flying, vigilance, and indestructible.

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yeah i just got myself a toski the other day from trade

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idk which deck i should put it in

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Should be perfect in this one

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i play too many off colour stuff

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so my green decks dont play like green

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you got any grave hate?

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[[Sigarda host of herons]] IO got some black hate

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[[Dragonlord Dromoka]] Good protection

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yep

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i guess you dont really need more ramp mana [[dowsing dagger[[

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[[dowsing dagger]]

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Artifact โ€” Equipment
When this Equipment enters, target opponent creates two 0/2 green Plant creature tokens with defender.
Equipped creature gets +2/+1.
Whenever equipped creature deals combat damage to a player, you may transform this Equipment.
Equip mana2

Lost Vale
Land
(Transforms from Dowsing Dagger.)
manat: Add three mana of any one color.
The pirates had ventured into the interior for treasure. They found something far greater.

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Serah being one herself Ramp is secondary here methinks. Dowsing is good though since its colored mana

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[[ellivere of the wild court]] works so nice with the Yuna, but not this :c

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Legendary Creature โ€” Human Knight
Whenever Ellivere enters or attacks, create a Virtuous Role token attached to another target creature you control. (If you control another Role on it, put that one into the graveyard. Enchanted creature gets +1/+1 for each enchantment you control.)
Whenever an enchanted creature you control deals combat damage to a player, draw a card.
4/4

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Quick question; Casting Serah counts as your first Legendary cast right? so you cannot benefit from her discount the same turn you cast her?

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Yeah, Ellivere is her own Commander deck methinks.

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Yes first spell always

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gtg, but I'll keep checking things out. Right now I'm going through the Legendaries in Selesnya colors, I'll check out mono white and mono green after

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[[anthem of the champions]] is a recent anthem i like but i never got the chance to try it out

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idont think it is worth here

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i didnt see green white legendary MDFC but i may have missed it

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[[the warring triad]] this thing is legendary

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[[marvin murderous mimic]] may not have a place

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[[traxos scourge of kroog]] maybe

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[[ultima origin of oblivion]] looks kinda nice and it kills multi colour lands

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oh there is this, [[venat heart of hydaelyn]]

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Legendary Creature โ€” Elder Wizard
Whenever you cast a legendary spell, draw a card. This ability triggers only once each turn.
Hero's Sundering โ€” mana7, manat: Exile target nonland permanent. Transform Venat. Activate only as a sorcery.
"Show me your strength of will!"
3/3

Hydaelyn, the Mothercrystal
Legendary Creature โ€” God
Indestructible
Blessing of Light โ€” At the beginning of combat on your turn, put a +1/+1 counter on another target creature you control. Until your next turn, it gains indestructible. If that creature is legendary, draw a card.
"For the sake of all, I beseech thee: deliver us from this fate!"
4/4

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[[mirror of galadriel]] not a creature but legend synergy

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[[ambrosia whiteheart]] protection bounce

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[[the irencrag]] it makes colourless but can be a equipment

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big spell [[the capitoline triad]]

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[[trostani discordant]] looks kinda meh but it has an anthem. more value than champion i mentioned above

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this is both so many options and so few at the same time with the limitation

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[[ghalta stampede tyrant]] would just drop the whole hand

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[[ed-e lonesome eyebot]] this is good card draw

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and flying matters too

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and this is probably the best fit i see

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[[the peregrine dynamo]]

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[[Emeria's Call // Emeria, Shattered Skyclave]] i think high cost cards this are still playable so depends on where the comfortable curve is, i can see it it get higher

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Sorcery
Create two 4/4 white Angel Warrior creature tokens with flying. Non-Angel creatures you control gain indestructible until your next turn.
"Iona no longer guards this place. We do." โ€”Kasla, Emeria shepherd

Emeria, Shattered Skyclave
Land
As this land enters, you may pay 3 life. If you don't, it enters tapped.
manat: Add manaw.
"You called it the castle of a god. It is less than that, and so much more." โ€”Kasla, Emeria shepherd

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Sorcery
Create two 4/4 white Angel Warrior creature tokens with flying. Non-Angel creatures you control gain indestructible until your next turn.
"Iona no longer guards this place. We do." โ€”Kasla, Emeria shepherd

Emeria, Shattered Skyclave
Land
As this land enters, you may pay 3 life. If you don't, it enters tapped.
manat: Add manaw.
"You called it the castle of a god. It is less than that, and so much more." โ€”Kasla, Emeria shepherd

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or [[ezuri's predation]]

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[[ghalta and mavren]] is one of the biggest creature along with OG ghalta

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Legendary Creature โ€” Dinosaur Vampire
Trample
Whenever you attack, choose one โ€”
โ€ข Create a tapped and attacking X/X green Dinosaur creature token with trample, where X is the greatest power among other attacking creatures.
โ€ข Create X 1/1 white Vampire creature tokens with lifelink, where X is the number of other attacking creatures.
12/12

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i find another good one

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[[god eternal oketra]]

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unless its already there

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[[greensleeves maro sorcerere]] is nice too

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X/X scales too hard in multi player

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just to give it a mention [[heliod god of the sun]] devotion can see the front side of transofmred cards]]

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so the back of serah counts toward 2 for green white devotion

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[[old one eye]]

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[[rinoa geartilly]]

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another good two for 1 card

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[[necrogen mists]] in evelyn?

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[phyrexian tyranny]]?

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[[painful quandary]] i cant really find much good vampires in this

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if you do the stax route with arcane labatory, i think [[forced fruition]] would be a good win con at 6 mana but it is risky against high power decks

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evelyn cares about big value stuff rather than small removal

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and imo [[wheel of misfortune]] is fun against people that know how it works

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Sorcery
Each player secretly chooses a number 0 or greater, then all players reveal those numbers simultaneously and determine the highest and lowest numbers revealed this way. Wheel of Misfortune deals damage equal to the highest number to each player who chose that number. Each player who didn't choose the lowest number discards their hand, then draws seven cards.

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Speaking of, do we play a more protection style deck, or do we go the green way of dropping fat cheeks every turn?

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I'm a white guy at heart so I like to mess around with my opponents. Legends like both Thalias would be fun here I think

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[[Thalia guardian]] [[Thalia heretic]]

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[[Bugenhagen wise elder]] Nice new card from FF

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[[Alisaie Leveilleur]] Also pretty nice

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I've added cards to the considering section. You have the classics Avacyn and co, and a couple interesting cards.

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[[Reki the history of kamigawa]] is def better than beast whisperer for example

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I need to find some legendaries with Flash too. Serah's effect work each turn

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You've mentionned [[Ambrosia whiteheart]].

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[[COmmander sofia]] [[Gandalf the white]] [[Masako the humorless]]
[[Sigrid god favored]] [[Yeva nature's herald]]

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Gandalf was already in the list. He's just too good in this deck

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Commander and Yeva seems really strong too

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Masako is a nasty trap

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I've tagged everything. Better view of what's missing

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Made the first draft. Seems fine at first glance, maybe not enough 1-mana ramp. I think getting Serah on board T2 is worth it.

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yeah, I'll put 8 1-mana dorks in instead.

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[[wild growth]] stuff are also 1 mana ramp

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with enough ramp you can lower to minimal land count

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the 2 mana low cost is really nice tho, i am not too sure about the tap lands thalia rightnow but if thats the direction the deck goes

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i think without the dump hand ghalta, board protection is not as important since you can refuel new things turn after turn. rightnow i think the eyebot and peregrine are the most appealing 3 drops from my mentions with good utility. i will do some quick math on how many flash legend is needed

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lol this tag

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The meme must go on

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[[arbor elf]][[wild growth]] and that other one that choose colour

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i forgot whats the mana cost of the elf + token cat thing

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find it[[drizzt do urden]]

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[[tolsimir friend to wolves]]

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both 3 mana in the end

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I prefer Tolsimir

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More interactive

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yeah

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i was just comparing the final mana cost

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i would removal llnowar elf for wild growth

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elvish mystic for arbor elf

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or that fyndhorn one same thing

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Yeah its fine. Playtests are pretty good so far, but when I don't get a drawing card it shows

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yeah

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ramp is kinda the same for the most part

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arbor elf is just so nice when you get that turn 2 [[utopia sprawl]]

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ramp to 4 mana turn 2

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Yeah

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i dont know if you really need arcane signet here

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because there are potential for some green artifact wipe

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Might reduce 2-mana ramp for more 1-mana ramp instead

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and i am trying to find that room for one of the colourless ething i mentioned

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The Serah on turn 2 is really nice

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yeah if she stays alive

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thats like 5 mana turn 3 with a missing land drop

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At this point in game she should. Its annoying for people to police the board on the first 2 turns

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if they know your 99

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she would be kill on site before she flips

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thats the ... whats that warhammer 40k enchantment red green

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reduce creature spell by 2

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With the amount of ramp in the deck she's not that impactful even if killed I think

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it spiked in that precon

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but serah is that in the commander zone

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[[braulios of pheres band]] i didnt know this card

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yeah. Still good to get rid of ofc

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Yeah me neither

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he's insane

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so much legendary i want that dog in here

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hiroshima was it

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[[hiroshima]]

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No card found for โ€œhiroshimaโ€

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[[hiroshi]]

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No card found for โ€œhiroshiโ€

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The other 1 mana white doggo?

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i doubt it is great but itself

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[[Isanaru]]

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No card found for โ€œIsanaruโ€

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[[Isamaru]]

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Multiple cards match โ€œIsamaruโ€, can you be more specific?

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XD

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[[Isamaru hound of]]

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anyways gtg eat will check out the rest of the deck

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Or did you meant the corgi

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no the partner one

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thats scary in legend voltron

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[[Yoshimaru]]

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Multiple cards match โ€œYoshimaruโ€, can you be more specific?

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because it triggers off legend lands

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[[Yoshimaru ever faithful]]

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yeah that

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Yeah he's best doggo

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its early game 5/5 at minimal

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minimum

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the flicker one is more utility

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and it has flash

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i wouldnt play isamaru due to powerlevel/scaling

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if the deck is bracket 2 maybe

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Vanilla curse

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this focus i think it is at least b3

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even with no GC

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fleed๐Ÿƒโ€โžก๏ธ

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If you want GCs, I'd go with [[Vorinclex Voice of hunger]] [[Aura Shards]] and w/e else

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[[Chrome Mox]] fits well

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CHrome mox fits into pretty much anything tbh.

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i am lazy so i would play b3 with no GC XD

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and poor

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full legend seems nice too

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T2[[eladamri korvecdal]] looks insane

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Legendary Creature โ€” Elf Warrior
You may look at the top card of your library any time.
You may cast creature spells from the top of your library.
manag, manat, Tap two untapped creatures you control: Reveal a card from your hand or the top card of your library. If you reveal a creature card this way, put it onto the battlefield. Activate only during your turn.
3/3

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aww [[Ojer Kaslem, Deepest Growth]] is in the side board

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Legendary Creature โ€” God
Trample
Whenever Ojer Kaslem deals combat damage to a player, reveal that many cards from the top of your library. You may put a creature card and/or a land card from among them onto the battlefield. Put the rest on the bottom in a random order.
When Ojer Kaslem dies, return it to the battlefield tapped and transformed under its owner's control.
6/5

Temple of Cultivation
Land
(Transforms from Ojer Kaslem, Deepest Growth.)
manat: Add manag.
mana2manag, manat: Transform this land. Activate only if you control ten or more permanents and only as a sorcery.
Chimil gave the Oltec sacred lands. Ojer Kaslem brought them to life.

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it is competing with lot of great cards in the 99 so its prob the right call

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i think there are also two directions to go, the [[goreclaw terror]] power matters or the utility with midrange late game tempo

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i really like the other goreclass with human because it gives haste

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but total cost 6

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i am trying to find [[conjurer;s closet]] eff to make repeat use of some of the etb

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i only really saw a few legend

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[[emiel the blessed]]

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mana3 is very high though

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[[orestib the vanisher]] only work if the deck is already in that direction]]

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No card found for โ€œorestib the vanisherโ€

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[[preston the vanisher]] and doesnt really work with legend theme

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so [[phelia exuberant shepherd]] is probably the best one and it is kinda a broken creature in itself

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stronger than [[yoshima faithful]] in general

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without flash [[abedel adrain gorion's ward]] is $hit

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No card found for โ€œabedel adrain forion's wardโ€

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[[abedel adrain gorion's ward]]

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especially with yeva flash out last moment

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Yeah. I guess it depends on the pods

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i would probably start off with easy going, serah value engine, with the potential of transition into b3 more focused big wide value overrun

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The deck can easily run without I think. I mean cards like Sisay are way stronger than a GC in this deck

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exactly

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welp, while I'm waiting for the cards to arrive. I'm gonna work on my Enchantment Bello

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It loses a lot. Bello has the tendency to become arch enemy fast.

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because the game plan is simple and you made the deck very fast in that direction

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i dont think you need all the 1 drop ramp for this deck

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consider the deck already lacks blockers

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getting the board out early adds to the weakness of losing everything to a boardwipe while not able to recast bello

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i get you want to attack with leyline as soon as possible

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I liked the Leyline opening into 1 mana drop into Bello T2 start hitting things

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just more creature ramp reinforce that weakness of the deck

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But you're right, the leylines themselves are poor enchantments except like 2 of them

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so a build that can do more consistent things later on probably involve taking some leylines out and aim for the mid game

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So I should reduce the creature ramp, replace it with more sorcery ramping then?

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more resilience to wipes

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I have a lot of protection for bello

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lol 21 ramp

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Bello needs ramping tbh

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yeah

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and some are 4 mana enchantments/artifacts so its fine

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hmmm

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what about [[Bramble Sovereign]]

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[[Flameshadow Conjuring]] [[Molten echoes]]

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much better

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but you keep the copies ><

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i guess you can populate too

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well i think you can do one time ramp like [[prosperous innkeeper]]

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I'm always wary of creatures that doesnt do anything the turn they are dropped

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and the life gain should somewhat keep you out of the red

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theres enough ramp to make up for that imo, and the enchantment copies that stays has potential

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[[Mob rule]] [[Insurrection]] and Creterhoof would be better in this kind of speedy deck

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yeah

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do you think you can fit [[plaza of heros]] in lands

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Oh yeah ofc

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just by having mana up, people feel s like they have to waste resources on something that will fail to remove the commander and use it else where

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I'm also playing suboptimally with Bello, I attack everyone equally

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I know the deck want to kill someone asap

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[[trailtracker scout]] is something i lean toward more than elvish ramp

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It comes in the precon

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oh it is this precon?

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its a good ramp card, I replaced it with the elf ball

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didnt see it in your ramp package

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i think its the utility value thats worth

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Yeah I'll probably put him back in

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after 3 bello cast, it can dodge so much commander tax

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As long as it stays alive lol

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Thats a big risk

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actually you can remove the talisman for it

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if you dont care about all creatures

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talisman?

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oh yeah ok

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i hate how the two leyline are nonbo ><

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cant gain life

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Its the Grull life brother

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[[Six]] retrace looks nice

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but i guess the first time it is just a bad regrowth

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Six is better as commander methinks

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Doesnt fit here

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[[road pf return]]

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[[bygone marvels]]

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I'd play [[command beacon]]

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i have those in mind knowing how much bello will get removed

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yeah make sense

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[[ semblance anvil]] good ramp

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[[the mycosynth gardens]]

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[[prototype portal]] + artifact land is that too slow

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if you dont need the token can choose not to imprint anything

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hm

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Not enough artifacts in the deck for this

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Could work in the Artifacts bello deck

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[[Aether flash]] [[Aether Sting]]

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nvm Sting, its on cast only

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[[Bedlam]]

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[[Boseiju reaches skyward]] big body

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Enchantment โ€” Saga
(As this Saga enters and after your draw step, add a lore counter.)
I โ€” Search your library for up to two basic Forest cards, reveal them, put them into your hand, then shuffle.
II โ€” Put up to one target land card from your graveyard on top of your library.
III โ€” Exile this Saga, then return it to the battlefield transformed under your control.

Branch of Boseiju
Enchantment Creature โ€” Plant
Reach
This creature gets +1/+1 for each land you control.
Though they razed the surrounding forest, the builders of Towashi left Boseiju unscathed, shaping the city around the ancient tree.
0/0

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[[Burning earth]] could go more basic lands

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[[CLose quarters]]

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[[Defense of the heart]]

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I dont have a lot of draw either

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Bello is a good draw engine but still, 6 cards that can draw is low

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[[Glorious Sunrise]]

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Already in

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I like pinging creatures

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[[Esika's Chariot]] making tokens

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Already in

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[[raggadragga]]

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[[elemental bond]]

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Thats a good one

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[[Wildsear, Scouring Maw]][[Asceticism]]

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Legendary Creature โ€” Elemental Wolf
Trample
Enchantment spells you cast from your hand have cascade. (Whenever you cast an enchantment spell from your hand, exile cards from the top of your library until you exile a nonland card that costs less. You may cast it without paying its mana cost. Put the exiled cards on the bottom in a random order.)
6/6

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[[dual nature]]

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Ace is in, Wildsear got taken out

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make sense

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[[Skitterbeam Battalion]]

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You're just linking every card in my deck at this point lol

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i am trying to figure out the cut

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besides leyline stuff

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Oh ok

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[[Jhoira's Familiar]] this is probably for artifact build

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Skitterbream is 3 4/4 trample haste for 5 mana

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i want to see if there are new saga that are good creatures

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hard to take out

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yep, it looks too good

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so i am doing process of elimination

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The enchantments are good, but Bello makes them worse

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[[Muerra, Trash Tactician]] this has draw but kinda slow

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Legendary Creature โ€” Raccoon Warrior
At the beginning of your first main phase, add manar or manag for each Raccoon you control.
Whenever you expend 4, you gain 3 life. (You expend 4 as you spend your fourth total mana to cast spells during a turn.)
Whenever you expend 8, exile the top two cards of your library. Until the end of your next turn, you may play those cards.
2/4

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yeah I used to have it

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too slow

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[[Ohran Frostfang]] this doubles your draws]]

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Yeah its a good one too

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[[Setessan Champion]] may s well play this

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[[Overlord of the Boilerbilges]] those arent bad with haste

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Enchantment Creature โ€” Avatar Horror
Impending 4โ€”mana2manarmanar (If you cast this spell for its impending cost, it enters with four time counters and isn't a creature until the last is removed. At the beginning of your end step, remove a time counter from it.)
Whenever this permanent enters or attacks, it deals 4 damage to any target.
5/5

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but i dont like paying 4

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You can pay 4 if bello isnt on board

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without cost reduction like anvil it just adds up so much

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i think overlord still better in general

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Both of them are good

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oh dang just realized [[arasta of endless web]] is also enchantment

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really good value and defense

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Yeah she's a good one too

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[[Cybermen Squadron]] so pricey

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[[$Cybermen Squadron]]

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Works great in the artifact deck

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at least one version is hard the price

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half*

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lol, thats US prices

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ik

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still half the price of the highest

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sadly my LGS have a huge markup on cards

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oh rip

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where are you close to

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yeah, best place to buy is online. there's a good store in montreal that everyone use as a guideline for prices

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my guess would either be vancouver or toronto

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where people actually exist unlike my "little town"

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I'm a french canadian

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qubec?

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I thought you were from Vancouver personally

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lol no

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Yeah I'm in Quebec

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close tho saskatchewan

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I'm sure you're on the left side of Canada at least

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<.< is it my ... accent

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Or you're a night owl lol

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XD

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lol

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i smehow forgot [[Toski, Bearer of Secrets]]]

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We just talked about him, how could you

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that was like ... long ago

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could have been decades

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๐ŸŸ ๐Ÿง 

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here's a good example of the markup. LGS is right side

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with the lack of card draw, i would just do [[Peerless Recycling]]

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Left side is what everyone uses

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wait wut

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12 dollars

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after it shows $6

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Those are 2 different stores

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oh right thats our canadian crystal commeerence

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There IS a good store that price their stuff lower than other stores

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but the inventory is small

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you play [[entish restore]]?

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there was a store where it got robbed about a decade ago so they no longer have singles

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The best one closed down 5-10 years ago

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another one got fucked by covid and rebranded itself as a Warhammer store

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[[Become the Avalanche]]

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Thats a nice finisher

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[[Wear Down]]
]][[Road // Ruin]]
[[Chimil, the Inner]] Sun so expensive $

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Yeah Chimil was on my list long ago

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but the price was too much

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[[The Immortal Sun]] also not cheap

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This deck is 100% real cards so I need to be careful

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is there other wipes like [[Nevinyrral's Disk]] ?

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Well, 100% real other than the cards that are already in my Frodo deck

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the coin flip one

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Oh me and luck are two separate beings

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i would bet my luck is worse than yours >:|

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I'd take that bet and lose

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[[Banner of Kinship]] do you own this thing

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i think i will never get one not just because its tribal but its also above my price range

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[[Gruul War Plow]] this looks like a nice anthem

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I dont. Its a nice "Win more" card

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your whole deck is kinda win more at this point

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[[Grull war chant]] is better I think

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this one helps [[God-Pharaoh's Statue]]

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yeah menace go wide beats trample

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Oh yeah, I hate this card lol

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One guy had this and [[Platinum angel]] with a lightning greaves on it

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if you ramp and need to close out the game

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it makes perfect sense to use it

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all it takes is a Vandal blast >.>

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so many cool artifacts [[Skysovereign, Consul Flagship]]

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so much $$$$ [[Alhammarret's Archive]]

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i dont like those cards tht much but the price somewhat shows their power in a game?

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[[artist talent]]

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Enchantment โ€” Class
(Gain the next level as a sorcery to add its ability.)
Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, you may discard a card. If you do, draw a card.
mana2manar: Level 2
Noncreature spells you cast cost mana1 less to cast.
mana2manar: Level 3
If a source you control would deal noncombat damage to an opponent or a permanent an opponent controls, it deals that much damage plus 2 instead.

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[[Alchemist's Talent]]

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Enchantment โ€” Class
(Gain the next level as a sorcery to add its ability.)
When this Class enters, create two tapped Treasure tokens.
mana1manar: Level 2
Treasures you control have "manat, Sacrifice this artifact: Add two mana of any one color."
mana4manar: Level 3
Whenever you cast a spell, if mana from a Treasure was spent to cast it, this Class deals damage equal to that spell's mana value to each opponent.

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[[Gimli's Reckless Might]]

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[[Mana Reflection]]

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[[Enchantress's Presence]]

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why i want those clones to stay^

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[[Outpost Siege]] klans is slow draw

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[[Sandwurm Convergence]] gives good protection

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[[Omenpath Journey]] good steady ramp

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you will like this one the turn after you play bello [[Leyline Immersion]]

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8 mana to work with

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on the following turn

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and ward early on is relevant

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[Myth Unbound]] this is interesting but no reprint

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if i am building bello , i am lazy enough to use what i own and put every version of [[sissy's ring]] [[ur golem's eye]] in it

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and then just artifact cost reduction and storm off top deck with vault

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the ugin that helps artifact cast nearly free

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did you have the great henge

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or that was the proxy deck

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[[outcast trailblazer]]

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[tribute to the world tree]

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nothings cheap

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Great henge is in proxy deck yeah

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Its a 100$ card here

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Way outta my moral limit

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<.< yeah right

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Its still cardboard in the end

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which is why paying 100$ for two entire proxy deck is better in my eyes

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And if anyone as a problem with proxies, I got Frodo and Bello that are 100% legit

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i miss playing with 25c cards

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most of my cards were like 10c each back then XD

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my LGS has good people though. Never had a problem with proxies

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a few questionable ones but overall 8/10 in chill

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last couple years i probably spent about a thousand which is lot more than any budget i would like to be

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i hope i can get an FF precon when they get another shipment

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I refuse to say my number. I started playing 3 months ago

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XD

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well you played years ago too

novel bramble
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Didnt keep any cards from back then

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as long as you can affort it and you are having fun

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i dont have the joy of spending

warped flare
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Lets just say the Frodo deck alone is over 1000$

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XD

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going to do some dishes

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Alright

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[[Saryth the viper's fang]] Had that card in the older version.

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Its kinda a "draw" card considering the deathtouch

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i see it as protection but close enough

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most of the time bello get something through so you should be drawing cards

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i think heroic intervention is more important

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[[curse of bounty]]

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i think artifact build is in general easier

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each card at the very least can tap for mana

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Theres a bit more synergy in enchantments

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Not a lot of draw in artifact drops for example

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Artifacts got some more nasty stuff though

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[[Akroma's monument]]

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there is a 6 drop from FF

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that let you tap anything for mana

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Yeah its an enchantment

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[[A realm reborn]]

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but you need the card draw

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so idk how you get your attacks in

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And anything I tap for mana i cant attack with

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unless they have vigilance

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or the untap from raagadraga

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Not green or red's biggest keyword

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meh

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[[angel's trimpet]]

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as long as it exist

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green has lot of untap

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1 mana from glory lol

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whats that bear umbra thing

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but isnt an aura

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tap opponent's lands untap your lands

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[[Akroma's memorial]] has Vigilance

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[[Nature's will]]

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yeah that

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it gives a reason to attack multiple players

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what got you to remove the cascade legendary

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that one is such a fun one

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Needed space, back then the deck was 50% enchantment / artifacts

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ah

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so it wasnt super relevant

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because each cascade at worst is a free card

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i would lean either a lot more in history artifact / mana rock

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or heavily all-out enchantment

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if the deck is all leylines, i am willing to play with no sol ring Xp

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if i want big spells, i would do sol ring + temple of the false god

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and other lands like [[blighted woodland]] to get more into play

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overall, 1 card = 2 mana

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if i have untap lands, i will almost always put the bounce lands so they can tap for double

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untap land abilities*

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so i rarely use the elf ball package unless i need the elf synergy or dont mind losing my whole board

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I... see?

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it looks like to me, the speed of your bello is fine

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its just not picking up enough value to get to the end game

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and the obvious weakness is getting exposed with no balance between its strength

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AKA need more finisher cards

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Craterhoof costs too much but theer's a couple downgrades

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[[end raze forerunners]]

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hmmmm

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i dont like one-offs win cons

novel bramble
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I'll add in Mob Rule and Insurrection

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mob rule remove blockers, as for insurrection dont have the direct synergy other than ramp

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[[mob rule]] is 6. rite

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yeah i can get behind that cost and payoff

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worst case scenario it is [[vitalize]]

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best case, remove all potential blocking creatures to attack with

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i guess untapping creature helps with your mana dork

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rough decision

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Are all the cards in Edge of Eternity revealed?

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no idea didnt follow much of it

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i have at least $500 worth of cards i own and havent played

novel bramble
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I just bought the preorder for both of them. No idea why lol

warped flare
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[[elvish guidance]]

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warped flare
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trying to find that elf synergy

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but there arent much to work with

novel bramble
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It was 130$ for both, 200$ everywhere else. Im a sucker for good deals

warped flare
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lol

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is it the jund land sac pre con

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they got you with the FOMO

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[[second harvest]]

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novel bramble
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Theres a lot of good reprints too

warped flare
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[[$second harvest]]

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i need this reprint

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[[deathgrip]]

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๐Ÿคฃ OP

novel bramble
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That is definitely a card of all time

warped flare
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i am actually wondering, if there are too many legendaries in the serah deck

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its one of those, yeah, if every (non-land) card is a cantrip, you will always benefit from the consistency while following the exact game plan

warped flare
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but it also comes down to only doing one thing with one form of payoff

novel bramble
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How do you build a jodah deck

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Its basically the same idea with tighter colors

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Anyway. LGS yesterday was a slog. I tested Evelyn and the deck isnt for me ATM.

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I had The flash Leyline on board, and 20+ cards exiled. I wasnt able to win because I didnt know how to proceed. Too much cards.

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Finally won a game with Bello, which was nice

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Last game with Hobbits lasted 2h15. One guy had the board locked down and even if it was to my addvantage I didnt draw any of my wincons with 20+food on board

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He suicided by Austere command blowing up all my hard work.

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Funny part: one of the guy was the salty dude that pulled off the Elfball deck when he lost, and he STILL had PTSD from my deck. The first 5 turns was a complete slog because he targeted me with his Blue/Black control rat deck

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Completely ridiculous

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lot of mana3 drop ramp to almost guarantee jodah comes out, the 99 will probably be 50% ish mana producer with near infinite mana with untappers, 35-40 (about 40%) legendary creatures that are either busted or gives insane value (lost of overlap in other categories), then add on the mass draw or win con for the remaining 12-15%. depends on budget, low budget legends kinda sucks in general unless it got lot of reprint

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and since it is cast trigger, things that bounce my creature spell on the stack lets me do it again

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and my perference involve doubling and cloning the biggest thing with little protection

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the ideal 99 would have lot more protection to ensure nothing get rid of your board

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i doubt i want to own or play teferi protection in any of my games unless i am proxying Cedh

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if you meant that OG cheat cost Jodah, now its more fun because it is BIG SPELL STORM PERPETUAL ENGINE DECK

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Draw a card, refund the mana, draw more cards, storm everything spell, go up in mana, play half the deck, explode myself into pieces by flying too close to the sun

warped flare
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when the table pull out their camera to take a picture of that unseen cards you play

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so i dont have to follow that "Good stuff" mold if someone else build the same commander; more personal touch and uniqueness to it

warped flare
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saw that coming

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not too sure about your other games, the elf ball one i can probably meta game some salty counter played and meta picks that make blue black suffer

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i think one of the problem with evelyn is that you need to know what your opponents are doing so that the cards you get from them actually helps you

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and making decisions with more cards is a nightmare on the psychological mind

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i cant really make 8+ cards to work together but i can create nonbos where my opponent will struggle to pin point the problem on my board

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because if he kills one thing, it turns the other card back online

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and some of which are dead cards in the 99. if i play one, i cant affort to play the other until the first one is off the board

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Step 1) control early game, make the game last long so that no one can combo win because the rest of the table has interactions to stop it

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  1. maybe give opponent(s) small advantage and ways to get back into the game; whenever it is a bait or not. so you are not alone when dealing with the biggest threat
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  1. Get on the good side of other players to let you get away with a little extra value so they dont feel like they have to waste resources to stop your play
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  1. deploy your game plan when everyone else is out/low on resources
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But for now, i think you are better off doing another style of evelyn

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because your LGS power level is too hard to predict in some case

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you need that perfect high power game for this build to shine

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without game changers in their deck, lot of staples, target removal

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its hard to get the value you need

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i forgot this card for the bello draw package [[kavu lair]]

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warped flare
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against non green decks it usually doesnt benefit the opponents

novel bramble
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Oh guess what. Bennie Brack is getting the boot for a new Draw engine

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[[Haliya Guided by light]]

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Legendary Creature โ€” Human Soldier
Whenever Haliya or another creature or artifact you control enters, you gain 1 life.
At the beginning of your end step, draw a card if you've gained 3 or more life this turn.
Warp manaw (You may cast this card from your hand for its warp cost. Exile this creature at the beginning of the next end step, then you may cast it from exile on a later turn.)
3/3

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Technically [[Susurian Voidborn]] could also find space but meh

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And ofc the new Planet lands are superb

warped flare
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๐Ÿ˜ฆ ๐Ÿ‘Œ

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that life gain looks insane

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it also gain on itself entering

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wtf

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voidborn makes the one from FF looks like crap already

novel bramble
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Warp is also interesting, moreso if you know a boardwipe is coming you can still benefit from the card on your turn

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and recast it later

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Is Warp instant speed? could you cast it during an opponent's turn? EDIT: Only if the card has flash.

warped flare
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you may cast this card from your hand for its warp cost. battery sold seperately

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timing restriction still applies

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would be interesting to flash Warp at end step

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[[shadow the heghog]]

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Legendary Creature โ€” Hedgehog Mercenary
Haste
Whenever Shadow the Hedgehog or another creature you control with flash or haste dies, draw a card.
Chaos Control โ€” Each spell you cast has split second if mana from an artifact was spent to cast it. (As long as it's on the stack, players can't cast spells or activate abilities that aren't mana abilities.)
4/2

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[[Gene pollinator]] new dork. Worse than Sprinleaf Drum but noteworthy still.

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[[All fates scroll]] nice new artifact

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warped flare
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not bad if 2nd condition can be fulfilled

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good in long game but not the combo ish turbo decks

novel bramble
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I think it fits into most midrange+ decks. late game thats easily 7+ cards

warped flare
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basically anything that doesnt miss land drops

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and play enough high quality lands

warped flare
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[[elena turk recruit]]

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warped flare
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idk FF lore at all so maybe they are from the same game

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No idea who youre referring but shes from FF 7

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Not a big character

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New week new deck. Im going full evil with [[Kefka court mage]]

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Legendary Creature โ€” Human Wizard
Whenever Kefka enters or attacks, each player discards a card. Then you draw a card for each card type among cards discarded this way.
mana8: Each opponent sacrifices a permanent of their choice. Transform Kefka. Activate only as a sorcery.
4/5

Kefka, Ruler of Ruin
Legendary Creature โ€” Avatar Wizard
Flying
Whenever an opponent loses life during your turn, you draw that many cards.
The end draws near.
5/7

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This deck will be an alternate for the guys that love to play uber optimized bracket 3 decks. While I get better at the game before playing Evelyn.

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No combos and no tutors, like usual. Game changers are ok if necessary.

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The first question is which path do I wanna go with Kefka, because theres 3 big ones at face value: either I go...

a) Full Blink. Discarding my opponents hands and keeping it empty.

b) Recursion. My own discards giving me buffs, mostly black but with cards like Anger.

c) Bite the bullet and go combo, which is one of its strengths, and will make the deck a comfortable bracket 4

warped flare
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is serah from FF7 as well?

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No shes a side character from FF 13, and the main character of FF 13-2

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AKA arguably the worst FF to date

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The stereotypical "Hopes and dreams and unicorns" personnality that I cant stand.

warped flare
# novel bramble The first question is which path do I wanna go with Kefka, because theres 3 big ...

the discard build falls into traps easily because it has either very good payoffs or never draw into the right side of the deck. The deck ratio is kinda out of whacked when the 99 plays discard engine and outlets and not commit to it. in this case the commander has discard so it is going to be a bit better at the very least. although it still changes the 99 a lot so it will be a new deck (same if not similar mana base)

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i alway wanted a discard/mill and reanimate my opponents kill threats on them

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it incentivize not to knock out the player i steal from but use their threats against the table

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knowing your evelyn was kinda meant to go against high power, maybe, just maybe this is meant to be your b4 deck?

novel bramble
# warped flare knowing your evelyn was kinda meant to go against high power, maybe, just maybe ...

Problem is that my pods dont play b4. Rather some players have optimally built high power bracket 3 (even 2 by standards).

Yesterday I fought vs the mono blue make a drake 2/2 everytime you cast an instant, the monk that makes you draw every legends that comes in with a massive ramp package with turns that never ends, just really strong decks that seems to cast a billion spells and never run out.

warped flare
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becoz b4 is kinda as rare as b1

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yeah i play [[rug of smoothering]] and eat removals

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Heres the Kefka draft. I went with a mix of Blink and recursion. Less focused on the discard effect itself but still a few cards that interact with it.

Theres a few easy cuts to make here, but im sitting at around 120ish cards. If you see anything obviously wrong please dont hesitate.

warped flare
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i think i should compare this one with the evelyn deck to see what stayed?

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as a b2 player any GC is the obvious wrong choice jk

novel bramble
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Yeah its a more serious deck. For those that like to go harder.

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Orcish and Tergrid are pretty much set in stone. I lile orcish as a "draw your whole deck I dare you" and Tergrid is just disgusting here. 3rd is up to w/e. Ring is a good option too

warped flare
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gtg back in hourish

warped flare
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dang i didnt even recognize the sad golem art

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doesnt that makes it extra sad

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idk about [[shrieking affliction]] for 1 mana it looks hyper efficient

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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but the amount of times it actually triggers in the game is either hard to predict

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or almost never

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i think it has a high potential to be a dead card in some games; which i hope i am wrong about

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i think because of the commander's ability, there are potentially other form of ramp; such as powerstone so it can get there faster, ofc it wouldnt be the focus since getting it out for 5 and another 8 is basically skipping the turn

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even if you draw a lot of cards in the same turn, there wont be too much mana to cast those spells and will end up discarding

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so with that, i think primary plan is pure value, secondary is group discard, and other theme is life lost

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[[nekusar]] may have a place in the deck if it goes in that direction

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warped flare
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not sure what to say/do about [[ertai resurrected]]

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it is good synergy with flicking

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actually, that can draw yourself cards ? that would be interesting

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[[niv mizzet parun]] really hard on yourself on that mana cost

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warped flare
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esp since black cards are the discard portion of the deck

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many double, triple black pips

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[[demon of darkschemes]] not sure what to do with energy

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warped flare
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did you have [[release to the wind]]

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warped flare
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protection + disruption

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and recast

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[[quistis trepe]] iirc is a slower [[snap caster mage]] right?

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warped flare
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ah the diff is that it can target opponent's cards

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cool

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can do unsummon bounce permanent removal which will eventually force some of that to be discarded

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[[rankle master of pranks]] looks really nice

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