#Looking for a way to get my combos out more consistent. Malcolm/Breeches

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frigid marlin
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https://moxfield.com/decks/BeJeL6iMO0eyjJaomhqRjQ

Here is my decklist. I'm looking for more ways to get my lightning crew/curiosity or my reckless FW combo out faster. I dont know of any more tutors I can grab for enchantments (curiosity/orphidian eye) for the lightning crew combo. The reckless combo isnt too bad to get out with muddle the mixture and fabricate/gamble. I might grab a repurposing bay to have another artifact tutor souce.

Not trying to blow the budget on mox / $50+ cards to make it faster in general.

Any help?

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outer coyote
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Sweet list,

I personally would cut most of the non-evasive pirates (unless they have a high impact), as they do not reliably trigger your commanders.

From what I understand you anyway plan to combo and have a high power deck (B4), so there is no need for lord effects.
You could swap them out for some more 1-2 cmc evasive pirates and add 2-3 more effects like Coastal Piracy, to draw through your deck more quickly for tutors / combo pieces.

As you are running Glint-Horn Buccaneer as a 1 card combo with Malcolm, I'm also not sure if it is worth to invest so many card slots in your other combos (Reckless Fireweaver/Ingenious Artillerist + Maskwood Nexus/Runed Stalactide/Arcane Adaptation), as you are just sandbagging if you don't just tutor for Glint-Horn IMO.
In the end it is personal preference, but I would either cut Glint-Horn or probably cut 2 of the creature type modifying cards to make room for something else. Also Niv-Mizzet Visionary feels like a win-more card here, as you only run 3 burn cards (excluding Glint-Horn here, as he already wins with Malcolm alone). Niv-Mizzet, Parun or ... Firemind at least can serve as another backup combo with curiosity/ophidian eye.

I would cut:
Captain Lannery Storm
Captain Storm, Cosmium Raider
Captain Vargus Wrath
Coastline Marauders
Departed Deckhand
Niv-Mizzet Visionary
Xorn
Maskwood Nexus
Arcane Adaptation
Unstoppable plan

-More Tutors (relatively cheap):
Pyre of Heroes
Long Term Plans
Drift of Phantasms
Dizzy Spell

Other possible inclusions:
Tandem Lookout
Cloud Pirates
Talas Scout
Talas Explorer
Scrounging Skyray
Stormfleet Aerialist
Kitesail Corsair
Coastal piracy
Bident of Thassa
Reconnaissance Mission
Enduring Curiosity
Kediss, Emberclaw Familiar
Professional Facebreaker
Windfall
Frantic Search
Underworld Breach

Some MDFCs for basics, if you don't want to get flooded with all your card-draw:
Valakut Awakening
Sea Gate Restoration
Pinnacle Monk
Sundering Eruption
Sink into Stupor
Hydroelectric Specimen

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1-2 more board wipe effects will probably also not hurt, if the game doesn't go as intended (Blasphemous Act, Cyclonic rift).

Another nice little trick to protect your board of small pirates:
Teferi's Veil

spring gale
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you should play magda, let’s you tutor out your niv
swap niv visionary for niv parun

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also you’re running coercive recruiter and port razer
if you add kiki jiki you can have another alt wincon
which may be better than the type changing stuff

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also you’re running glinthorn
don’t run thought vessel cause it prevents you from being able to win at end step by discarding to hand size

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same goes for reliquary tower

frigid marlin
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Thank you guys for these recommendations!

lavish raven
frigid marlin
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happy for now 🙂 thank you

lavish raven
frigid marlin
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unless you have any advice you think i NEEd to know 😄 haha

lavish raven
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frigid marlin
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Oooooo thats super good 🙂

lavish raven
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Malcolm Kediss is my main deck, I'm currently building Malcolm Breeches but the decks are extremely similar in a lot of ways so most of what applies to one applies to the other. I don't 100% agree w all the advice above and there's staple cards I think ur missing but I don't know how much u want to optimise it, whether there's budget constraints, etc. lmk if u want more info at some point but what u have looks good for now anyway!!!

frigid marlin
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yeah, send me your key points! I am trying to keep it somewhat budget oriented (<$300)

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You like malcolm + kediss more than breeches?

dire skiff
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kediss is a LOT more efficient than breeches

lavish raven
frigid marlin
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im just trying to build a high power combo deck

lavish raven
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It's been persuasively argued that Malcolm Kediss is the best budget deck bc it makes up for not having expensive fast mana

dire skiff
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i was hopping in here to suggest that haha

frigid marlin
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I have no preferences

frigid marlin
dire skiff
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basically what kediss allows is for you to have both a 1 card combo in the deck (malcolm/glinthorn) and also a 1 card advantage engine (any curiosity effect + both commanders)

lavish raven
dire skiff
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so your deck can just be tutors for the combo, some backups and just a whole lot of cheap filtering and interaction

lavish raven
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Here's the stock dirt cheap deck

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Here's my personal version

dire skiff
lavish raven
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Comes in at $500

dire skiff
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there is a budget league in my lgs and this is the deck i personally run when i participate

lavish raven
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I wanna mention that the best wincon in the deck is arguably pirateweaver not glint

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Glint wins games but not as many as u would think

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It's good to have the threat of a 2-card combo w the commander but pirateweaver and breach lines tend to be where most of my wins come from in my experience

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They're just very resilient combos

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Also glint is like. Hard to draw bc our creature tutors suck

dire skiff
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true

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weaver has enough redundancy with artillerist and detonator and the changeling stuff that its a lot easier to find, especially on a budget

frigid marlin
lavish raven
frigid marlin
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true haha how are u getting maskwood consistently
?

lavish raven
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Drift of phantasms is also good, 6 mana glint wins games

lavish raven
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But there's lots of hacks

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[[artificial evolution]] [[leyline of transformation]] [[trickery charm]]

prime remnantBOT
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https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/63/leyline-of-transformation

Leyline of Transformation <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment
If this card is in your opening hand, you may begin the game with it on the battlefield.
As this enchantment enters, choose a creature type.
Creatures you control are the chosen type in addition to their other types. The same is true for creature spells you control and creature cards you own that aren't on the battlefield.

dire skiff
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transmutes are sooooooo goated on budget

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the velis vel cycle too

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[[wings of velis vel]]

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lavish raven
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A funny line in budget decks to assemble pirateweaver is [[goblin matron]]

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dire skiff
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[[blades of velis vel]]

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lavish raven
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Can grab either half of the combo

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Via wings of velis vel or hedron detonator

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You want to pick max 3 pingers and 3 hacks though, and stronger decks generally run fewer bc it's better to have slightly fewer wincons but more draw so u draw into the win conditions plus the cards u need to protect the wins

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The best pinger is reckless fireweaver, and then you can make arguments for [[hedron detonator]] and [[sunshot militia]] in second place

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frigid marlin
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whats a hack?

dire skiff
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lavish raven
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Militia works better post combat bc it doesn't need an artifact to enter to get the win, hedron detonator can be performed at instant speed which is a huge deal right now bc everyone's trying to combo over everyone else

dire skiff
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imo is better than militia

lavish raven
dire skiff
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artillerist in the case you're not comboing off can grind people on residual damage a lot faster

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in my experience i've had a lot of games where just relying on the interaction between curiosity malcolm + artillerist can put a fast fast clock on the table

lavish raven
dire skiff
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but thats also because i'm on a super budget here

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since most decks are trying to be hyper efficient on a budget the interaction package i have is usually enough to hold off people long enough to find the combo

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and when i'm not finding it i'm usually finding more interaction/draw so i get to keep playing the tempo game

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feels almost like a delver deck

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just stick malcolm with curiosity on the table and tempo out everyone

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just a quick playtest to see if its still got and yeah

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lavish raven
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The issue w ingenious artillerist is it's 3 mana which is a lot more expensive than 2 mana when we're trying to go off and it's a more fragile body and less utility than the other 3 mana option, hedron detonator

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There's 5 main options if u also include shao jun, I think shao and arty are bottom 2 and fireweaver is top. militia and detonator are a tossup between cheaper and works without an artifact ETB vs instant speed

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If u really love instant speed I can see arty as ur 3rd pick but realistically 2 is enough most of the time unless ur just going for like. Scrappy turbo wins where u just happen to have the cards, in which case pack as many wincons in as possible xD

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As soon as you're starting to establish a strong midrange plan with a draw engine like [[rhystic study]] [[the one ring]], 2 pingers and 2-3 hacks are enough

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dire skiff
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yeah i agree

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but again

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those cards alone are each over my deck's entire budget

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so i kinda need the density

lavish raven
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Yep no I can see that ngl. I think a $300 deck will play more like that though

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@frigid marlin you'll want your game plan to be:

  • turn 2 Malcom (we play a land base that cannibalises itself and a lot of bad ramp cards to let us do this and it's sooooo worth it)
  • turn 3 Kediss, attack with Malcolm, make 3 treasures on turn 3(!!!)
  • then establish your midrange engine to draw a lot of cards and build up a winning advantage
  • force through a well-protected wincon ideally behind [[defense grid]] protection

.......or u just accidentally find a combo on turn 2-4, jam it, and it sticks... Oops xD

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dire skiff
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true

frigid marlin
lavish raven
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We play lots of really terrible cards like [[skirk prospector]]

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lavish raven
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And lands like [[saprazzan skerry]]

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lavish raven
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Or actually good methods like lotus petal lol

frigid marlin
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Haha gotcha, and simian too I guess

lavish raven
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It doesn't matter if some of the cards are trash bc u draw so many later on that u just discard them and use them as breach fuel

frigid marlin
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I'm new to high power so this is all new

lavish raven
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Even [[mystical tutor]] bc it fetches [[rite of flame]]

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lavish raven
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Also some of them are useful later too

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[[goldhound]] is a treasure so counts towards Magda activations and is an artifact so it triggers fireweaver, likewise [[strike it rich]]

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lavish raven
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[[jewelled amulet]] can be a temporary part of a breach combo since it's mana-positive with [[offer you cannot refuse]]

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lavish raven
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So like they're not completely useless xD

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And the slightly worse card quality is a price worth paying for an early Malcolm without fast mana budget

frigid marlin
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Very nice!

lavish raven
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The combos look something like this although what cards you have exactly will differ

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Pirateweaver, malcolm-glint, glint-curiosity, niv-curiosity, maybe also niv-niv (not pictured)

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And then the breach lines at the bottom

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I like niv-niv but lots of people don't xD

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[[niv parun]] plus [[niv visionary]] - niv vis is effectively another copy of curiosity except it's tutorable off Magda, but is expensive and can be countered if played not off Magda in a way the other niv can't be. Also it gives you infinite hand size but that turns off the glint-curiosity combo which relies on discarding cards to trigger infinite cleanup steps

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lavish raven
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I have it in there but the jury is out

lavish raven
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@dire skiff will have different combos going on obviously this is just how my deck looks

dire skiff
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its pretty much the same

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no breach due to price limitations, just a couple more redundancy pieces for the pirateweaver combos

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[[imagecrafter]] is how down bad for those you can get when the budget is that low

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lavish raven
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XD oh damn that's kinda cute ngl

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If only it didn't have summoning sickness

lavish raven
dire skiff
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probably should be

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i haven't touched the list in a while

lavish raven
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$price artificial evolution

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!price artificial evolution

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Um

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[[!price artificial evolution]]

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lavish raven
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Idk

dire skiff
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[[$artificial evolution]]

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lavish raven
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Tysm fnxzgx

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[[$leyline trans]]

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lavish raven
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That's cheapish

dire skiff
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yeah

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definetly something to include

frigid marlin
lavish raven
# frigid marlin can you explain a breach combo?

[[underworld breach]] is an extremely broken card - if you have some way to get cards into the graveyard to exile to escape cards with breach, and some way to generate mana to keep doing that, you can put your whole deck in the graveyard which lets you win in a few different ways

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lavish raven
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the way we do it here is with [[lotus petal]] and [[brainfreeze]]

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lavish raven
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play breach. play brainfreeze, get a decent number of cards in your graveyard. crack petal, exile 3 cards from graveyard, return petal to the battlefield, crack it again (you've now made 2 blue mana). your storm count (number of spells cast this turn) is at least 3

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exile 3 cards and play brainfreeze, put 12 cards (3 x storm count 4) cards into the graveyard

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this gives you escape fuel to do the whole thing again

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so you can basically just keep going putting all your deck in the graveyard and generating a high storm count

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you can either directly mill out your opponents with brainfreeze and let them deck themselves next turn when they draw a card (or make them deck themselves now with [[faerie mastermind]]

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lavish raven
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or you can assemble some other win condition like pirateweaver

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we don't really have the good ways to assemble breach combo in izzet colours but if you already have breach on the battlefield, [[gamble]] is a great way to assemble the rest of the combo bc it doesn't matter if whatever you tutored goes in the graveyard bc you already have breach to get it out again

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lavish raven
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exactly how many cards you need in the graveyard to go off depends on a lot of factors like which parts are starting in your hand/graveyard, how much extra mana you already have so u have to kind of apply brain a little bit to figure out if it's safe to go off

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but yeah it's just a v good combo

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and if you already have some mana and cards in graveyard it's very resistant to interaction bc you can just keep looping counterspells from your graveyard to protect it

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other breach loops are available, like with [[birgi god of storytelling]] and [[burning inquiry]]

prime remnantBOT
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https://scryfall.com/card/khm/123/birgi-god-of-storytelling-harnfel-horn-of-bounty

Birgi, God of Storytelling <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — God
Whenever you cast a spell, add manar. Until end of turn, you don't lose this mana as steps and phases end.
Creatures you control can boast twice during each of your turns rather than once.
"This is a tale to make all Kaldheim tremble..."
3/3

Harnfel, Horn of Bounty mana4manar
Legendary Artifact
Discard a card: Exile the top two cards of your library. You may play those cards this turn.
Like her well of stories, Birgi's horn never runs dry.

lavish raven
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problem with this one is it can draw your opponents into useful interaction which we don't want, same issue with [[wheel of fortune]] and stuff

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lavish raven
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idealy we'd use [[lion's eye diamond]] instead of lotus petal but. [[$lion's eye diamond]]

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lavish raven
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that's your whole budget right there

lavish raven