Deck Brewing General

[sage horizon]

Hey I playtested on untap and this deck is 🔥 but I took out [[Embercleave]] for [[Champion’s Helm]]. So it makes the deck a lot faster, but more than anything. I don’t see why keeping Embercleave. I mean, I’m trying to only have cloud attacking so there’s no point in putting Embercleave.

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/eld/120/embercleave

Embercleave <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manar:292901508796645397><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Artifact — Equipment
Flash
This spell costs less to cast for each attacking creature you control.
When Embercleave enters, attach it to target creature you control.
Equipped creature gets +1/+1 and has double strike and trample.
Equip

https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/375/champions-helm

Champion's Helm <:mana3:292901508771610624>

Artifact — Equipment
Equipped creature gets +2/+2.
As long as equipped creature is legendary, it has hexproof. (It can't be the target of spells or abilities your opponents control.)
Equip

[sage horizon]

No, the biggest problem with this deck is that it is prone to Aura’s I tried getting hexproof but the pod kept on me until Cloud was frozen.

[bold rune]

Looking for ideas on teval since I've been very indecisive about where to go with the deck, anyone got a list I can look at for ideas?

[grizzled bloom]

This is my first time building a storm deck, I'm wondering if I'm missing any obvious cards (other than lands)
https://archidekt.com/decks/12626853/narset_jeskai_stormmaster

[bold rune]

Still holding out somewhat for it.
https://discord.com/channels/574711449566445603/1363584769043992811

[burnt chasm]

I’m trying to find non invasive ways to help make this deck run a little smoother. I feel like it has really good bones and really kicks it up with its engines. In a pod setting it seems to run real well, but I always seem to fall short in 1v1. Could someone let me know if what I’m running could be adjusted or if it’s just not built for 1 on 1.

https://manabox.app/decks/J9BAfCckSBSbXKqs6oeLiQ

[grizzled bloom]

I posted a new deck I just finished building online

[rare escarp]

No card found for “Mimeoplasm Ooze”

[viral nexus]

Does anyone have an idea how to make a standard playable deck out of [[Mimeoplasm Revered One]]? Even though it's a mythic, I somehow pulled 3 of them and wouldn't mind getting a 4th if there is a way to make a deck with it

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/dft/214/mimeoplasm-revered-one

Mimeoplasm, Revered One <:manax:292901509082120202><:manab:292901508872273920><:manag:292901508654301185><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Ooze
As Mimeoplasm enters, exile up to X creature cards from your graveyard. It enters with three +1/+1 counters on it for each creature card exiled this way.
: Mimeoplasm becomes a copy of target creature card exiled with it, except it's 0/0 and has this ability.
0/0

[viral nexus]

Self-mill seems like an obvious way to take this, but I don't see what creature I would have to mill and copy to win

[glass thorn]

Anyone a Hakbal pilot? Looking for some tips on my decklist and help with cuts - I’m keen on +1 counters, going wide and growing the creatures tribal vibe

https://moxfield.com/decks/6wqSqyKmuE-BjJHc10-SUA

[river stream]

It genuinely win turn (2 earliest ) or by turn 3 4 5 u win with the deck u saying it’s a 2 or 3 would never be accept to play in those brackets this shit stops most bracket 4s just wondering if it’s 4 or more cedh you don’t seem to know the lines the deck uses or izzit combos with copping spells tho

Pretty damn funny tho lol 😂

[rancid hill]

what would be some good synergies for this deck so i can get it as strong as possible(avoiding Bruvac because i know thats an easy include)
https://moxfield.com/decks/0kSr4vEooE6mo_gMwbELCw

[tribal matrix]

https://archidekt.com/decks/12732774

Trying goad out in howler. Kind of got a bit of things that benefit from discarding

[sinful coyote]

yo, i need some help. i bought the jeskai striker precon, and i need some tips and tricks on how to play it. I'm more used to stompy big green dum creatures or aristocrat-like spam of tokens, but i wanted to try something new. i'll also drop my decklist. cheers! https://archidekt.com/decks/12734970/draw_enin

[tough urchin]

please comment, thank you

https://moxfield.com/decks/p3_Sm4hfb0aCh6lZq75gWA

[glass thorn]

Yoooo is anyone a Xenagos God of Revels pilot in here?

[split mulch]

https://moxfield.com/decks/yXmo2L4UEECWEAaoVS2vuw hey there! im building [[felothar, dawn of the abzan]] as a budget aggro deck with an incredibly low curve, a lurrus value package, and a samwise/cauldron combo. im not sure what to change or add, but this feels pretty good. also the stuff in the sideboard is in the main deck, its just seperated to help me figure out what i need to buy when the time comes for me to battle tcgplayer lmao

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdm/184/felothar-dawn-of-the-abzan

Felothar, Dawn of the Abzan <:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manab:292901508872273920><:manag:292901508654301185>

Legendary Creature — Human Warrior
Trample
Whenever Felothar enters or attacks, you may sacrifice a nonland permanent. When you do, put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
"Through perennation, we stand together, families—ancestor and kin─united as one clan! Abzan!"
3/3

[wooden breach]

[wooden breach]

As a Felothar lover I will get to you in just a minute

I wanna see this

[split mulch]

Much thanks 🫡

[wooden breach]

So first off, big fan

Secondly, [[hardened scales]]

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/243/hardened-scales

Hardened Scales <:manag:292901508654301185>

Enchantment
If one or more +1/+1 counters would be put on a creature you control, that many plus one +1/+1 counters are put on it instead.
"Naga shed their scales. We wear ours with pride." —Golran, dragonscale captain

[wooden breach]

I like the inclusion of the sam combo, but if you're gonna include it you could really drive into food synergies to give you more stuff to sac and give them more of a fit in your deck

[[peregrin took]]

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/ltr/181/peregrin-took

Peregrin Took <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manag:292901508654301185>

Legendary Creature — Halfling Citizen
If one or more tokens would be created under your control, those tokens plus an additional Food token are created instead. (It's an artifact with ", , Sacrifice this token: You gain 3 life.")
Sacrifice three Foods: Draw a card.
"Sam! Get breakfast ready for half-past nine!"
2/3

[wooden breach]

[[astrid peth]]

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/who/11/astrid-peth

Astrid Peth <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Creature — Human
Whenever Astrid Peth enters or attacks, create a Food token.
Brand-new Sky — Whenever you sacrifice a Clue or Food, Astrid Peth explores. (Reveal the top card of your library. Put that card into your hand if it's a land. Otherwise, put a +1/+1 counter on this creature, then put the card back or put it into your graveyard.)
2/2

[split mulch]

Honestly, how i see it, all three parts of the combo are cards id end up playing anyway, other than maybe cauldron familiar but id always been on sam and a sac outlet no matter what

[wooden breach]

It's a good plan, but if those are cards you'd end up playing anyway, they'd work a lot better with some extra support

[split mulch]

That's a good point

I like the Astrid peth tech a lot

Peregrine im not impressed with here

[wooden breach]

That's because you gotta pair him up with [[experimental confectioner]]

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/woe/314/experimental-confectioner

Experimental Confectioner <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Human Peasant
When this creature enters, create a Food token. (It's an artifact with ", , Sacrifice this token: You gain 3 life.")
Whenever you sacrifice a Food, create a 1/1 black Rat creature token with "This token can't block."
2/3

[wooden breach]

Those two combined let you draw your entire deck

[split mulch]

I did almost put this package in this draft

I mainly want the deck to just be annoying to deal with and almost impossible to deal with permanently

Lots and lots of boardwipe insurance

[wooden breach]

Well then how about [[inspiring call]]

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/fdn/226/inspiring-call

Inspiring Call <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manag:292901508654301185>

Instant
Draw a card for each creature you control with a +1/+1 counter on it. Those creatures gain indestructible until end of turn. (Damage and effects that say "destroy" don't destroy them.)
"They said we were weak, did they? Let's show them what happens when we fight as one!"

[split mulch]

Yeah it should probably be in here, cutting cards is just hard

[paper wren]

hello

who likes landfall and wants to help me out

[paper wren]

https://archidekt.com/decks/8883261/omnath

what cards should I remove / add

thankyou

[round sluice]

it seems like this deck had two different ideas, using omnath's ability to deal a lot of burn damage and ramp into huge creatures and attack with them

If you have some playtime with the deck I would pick one that either is more fun to you or the one that wins you more games and focus on that. It's up to you.

Obviously you can keep both ideas but I would make one of them more the focus (the other as a subtheme).

I'm also seeing some go wide/tokens strategy as another theme. An idea I focus on when building 4/5 color commanders is: if there are a lot of different ways to build a commander, don't build it to do all of it. Depending on what you decide to cut you would add some more cards to support the other themes. Say you get rid of the big creature strategy, add more burn that works with lands (something omnath is already trying to do) and add more token makers/pumpers/doublers.

hope this helps

oh and finally the land recursion is good to have with fetches but if you have 8 pieces that let you play lands from the graveyard and if you have one on the field and get another it's just a dead card. Either go in with more land sac stuff, or have less land recursion. This goes back to the too many themes in a deck idea.

I definitely think this is a good deck and with more focus on what it wants to do I think it will become even better.

@paper wren probably should've pinged whoops

[grizzled bloom]

I feel like my 2 newest builds are soooo closer to being finished

[oak hemlock]

https://moxfield.com/decks/-DHPWDOAVEC7Y4XnHcXLJg here is my list. It’s mostly pure landfall

[oak hemlock]

The whole solphim burn idea is cool but I think omnath is so much more fun doing classic landfall shenanigans

[round sluice]

yeah, im a red player tho and love burn, would love to see omnath burn

[grizzled bloom]

https://archidekt.com/decks/12626853/narset_jeskai_stormmaster

https://archidekt.com/decks/12295484/terror_of_the_east

I feel like Lanius is closer to being finished than Narset

[solemn idol]

Hey, has anyone ever found the best ratio of reanimator spells to reanimator targets?

[viral nexus]

I want to know the same thing myself

[feral sapphire]

Anyone have advice for my ureni? The one from the set itself not the precon. The idea is just general land spam, drop and blink the commander to do multi board wipes to just smash face and win https://moxfield.com/decks/oCWXFzer_UqolnWeUY_KYQ

[real fractal]

Want any suggestions while keeping true to my irl play groups restrictions. They’re in the description https://moxfield.com/decks/wZTLXFkjQkOoNeWrhs6Viw

[nimble abyss]

Hey, what are solid recursion cards? I want to get the FF Mardu precon, and would like to pick up some recursion cards before they get price spiked
I have [[Dread Return]] [[Funeral Room]][[past in flames]][[dig up the body]][[tersa lightshatterer]][[reconstruct history]][[revenant]][[alesha, who smiles at death]][[alesha, who laughs at fate]][[sorin, lord of innistrad]] [[smile at death]][[sevinne's reclamation]][[season of the burrow]][[sidisi, regent of the mire]][[restart sequence]][[sun titan]]

[lime moth]

I can't believe it's been 6 months since I looked at this

https://moxfield.com/decks/o-tq8Hfx8kGpsBRlgPSgBA

I still haven't built it

I don't believe there's any new cards to add though

Weirdly, with Aetherdrift, you'd think there'd be Wheels support to put here but I don't believe I've seen any new good wheels

[feral sapphire]

Needing help on cuts and potentially better cards for my +1 version of the Bedrock Brokers precon with Falco Spara as the commander -https://moxfield.com/decks/00MZJfXGIkeQ32C4hr5_BQ

[long kiln]

Looking for honest opinion https://moxfield.com/decks/XzIOFpDEeEaYJaGMT_x_AQ

[sand wren]

So I am trying to make a deck, rule zero commander, based on Chainer and Kamahl fighting in the Cabal pits together.

Obviously I am heavily focused on cards about that, or from the Odyssey block.

https://moxfield.com/decks/WZv-W4VTtU205NG3CyJgPw

Right now this very much feels like a deck without direction, and I am trying to figure out what that should be.

Maybe I need to put some deathtouch effects and focus on pinging things then reanimating them with chainer, but that feels like the worst possible way to make a theft deck, and seems kind of boring.

There's gotta be something here other than a pile of nonsense that I am just not seeing.

[wise cliff]

Hey guys on Moxfield, does the "average number of lands in opening hand" stat include MDFC lands?

my value is 2.76 and I have 39 lands total with mdfc cards

It is a low curve deck but idk

[feral sapphire]

Totally dumb question for a dumb deck idea I had. Is there any good Boros Phyrexian commanders? If any at all lol, I just had this dumb idea of making aggro Phyrexians and boros seems a good color for it

[warm nova]

I do not know off hand but:
if you're running 39 effective lands, you're fine.

[glass thorn]

Hey there! Are there any chainer dementia master enthusiasts in here? Would love to chat about my deck

[young phoenix]

if the stats counted MDFC it should show that number, you can always try to remove the card and see if the number changes. hard to know off the top of my head

[young phoenix]

not sure what you meant by master, is there something you are trying to do that is completely diff from reanimate decks?

make mana > set up graveyard (usually your own) > choose between broken cards, combo, synergy, utility or big fun stuff. scryfall search should help if you know what you are looking for

there are online essays about this

[young phoenix]

does it have to be boros and phyrexian on the commander

or you are trying boros identity and phrexians in the 99

or a madu commander boros 99 or willing to go orzhov and play equipment

[[brimaz, blight of oreskos]] lowkey sucks

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/moc/2/brimaz-blight-of-oreskos

Brimaz, Blight of Oreskos <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Phyrexian Cat
Whenever you cast a Phyrexian creature or artifact creature spell, incubate X, where X is that spell's mana value. (Create an Incubator token with X +1/+1 counters on it and ": Transform this token." It transforms into a 0/0 Phyrexian artifact creature.)
At the beginning of each end step, if a Phyrexian died under your control this turn, proliferate.
3/4

[young phoenix]

phrexian also has infect from the originals and toxic, so proliferate can be a subtheem

overall equipments are colourless so anything can go equipment

also oil counters etc

[[greven predatorcaptain]]

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/c19/43/greven-predator-captain

Greven, Predator Captain <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Phyrexian Human Warrior
Menace
Greven gets +X/+0, where X is the amount of life you've lost this turn.
Whenever Greven attacks, you may sacrifice another creature. If you do, you draw cards equal to that creature's power and you lose life equal to that creature's toughness.
5/5

[solemn idol]

I just had a dumb idea for a deck

I call it

Jorn's Eldrazi Winter

[[Jorn, god of winter]]

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/khm/179/jorn-god-of-winter-kaldring-the-rimestaff

Jorn, God of Winter <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manag:292901508654301185>

Legendary Snow Creature — God
Whenever Jorn attacks, untap each snow permanent you control.
"Wherever snow falls, I am home."
3/3

Kaldring, the Rimestaff
Legendary Snow Artifact
: You may play target snow permanent card from your graveyard this turn. If you do, it enters tapped.
As the sagas tell it, Jorn collects a sliver of ice from every realm he visits.

[solemn idol]

you'll never guess what its about

[wraith onyx]

https://moxfield.com/decks/z4wUQM98GkScxg4Jb6FLJg
Sharing this deck here for some constructive criticism. Any reccomendations for Sideboarding?

[feral sapphire]

Boros identity

[young phoenix]

you can scryfall it, zero in the game, period. discussion over

unless its just boros commander and you can put anything in the deck

then you will still have equipment options and gem tokens are phyrexians now

[feral sapphire]

True , was a silly idea lol I'm working on something practical now. [[Tyvar pummeler]] but not Elves tribal

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/202/tyvar-the-pummeler

Tyvar, the Pummeler <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manag:292901508654301185><:manag:292901508654301185>

Legendary Creature — Elf Warrior
Tap another untapped creature you control: Tyvar gains indestructible until end of turn. Tap it.
: Creatures you control get +X/+X until end of turn, where X is the greatest power among creatures you control.
"They just keep coming and coming—perfect for my morning workout!"
3/3

[young phoenix]

silly is one thing, but it was not possible under that restriction since there are no legendary, phyrexian with boros identity

at best you rule 0 an uncommon phyrexian

and then it becomes a generic boros equipment deck

which most are played like voltron

[young phoenix]

any elves allowed or absolutely no other elf in the deck

green still have all the land ramp and +1 counter synergy to make it work, bird and halfing arent elves but do the same thing and pricer

[feral sapphire]

Have em both anyways

[trail mason]

would u put cheap reanimation spells like the 1 White mana ones or 1B ones into a [[hashaton]] deck? for now people are too lazy to remove him but they might change that soon 😄

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/drc/1/hashaton-scarabs-fist

Hashaton, Scarab's Fist <:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Zombie Wizard
Whenever you discard a creature card, you may pay . If you do, create a tapped token that's a copy of that card, except it's a 4/4 black Zombie.
"I served the Scarab in an age long past, in another form, under another name. No matter their visage, I serve."
1/3

[sharp dock]

If I were to build a Wild Magic deck focused on [[Neera, Wild Mage]] as my Commander and [[Delina, Wild Mage]] and [[Simon, Wild Magic Sorcerer]] in the 99, what other cards would you recommend I include?

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/clb/288/neera-wild-mage

Neera, Wild Mage <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manau:292901508754702338><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Human Elf Shaman
Whenever you cast a spell, you may put it on the bottom of its owner's library. If you do, reveal cards from the top of your library until you reveal a nonland card. You may cast that card without paying its mana cost. Then put all revealed cards not cast this way on the bottom of your library in a random order. This ability triggers only once each turn.
2/7

https://scryfall.com/card/afr/138/delina-wild-mage

Delina, Wild Mage <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Elf Shaman
Whenever Delina attacks, choose target creature you control, then roll a d20.
1—14 | Create a tapped and attacking token that's a copy of that creature, except it's not legendary and it has "At end of combat, exile this token."
15—20 | Create one of those tokens. You may roll again.
3/2

https://scryfall.com/card/sld/1238/mathise-surge-channeler

Mathise, Surge Channeler <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Human Elf Shaman
Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell with mana value 3 or greater, roll a d20.
1-9 | Each player draws a card.
10-19 | You draw a card.
20 | Copy that spell. You may choose new targets for the copy.
1/1

[solemn idol]

Hey, how many [[curiosity]] effects are their that only care about dealing damage?

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/jmp/147/curiosity

Curiosity <:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment — Aura
Enchant creature
Whenever enchanted creature deals damage to an opponent, you may draw a card.
"Surely you know the joy of the hunt, my furry friend. My kind of hunt just takes a different form than yours."

[solemn idol]

That might be to big of a question, how would I search for effects like curiosity on scryfall?

[proper fiber]

[[ophidian eye]] and [[tandem lookout]] are usually the 2 common alternatives in blue

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/tsp/70/ophidian-eye

Ophidian Eye <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment — Aura
Flash (You may cast this spell any time you could cast an instant.)
Enchant creature
Whenever enchanted creature deals damage to an opponent, you may draw a card.

https://scryfall.com/card/mm3/53/tandem-lookout

Tandem Lookout <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Human Scout
Soulbond (You may pair this creature with another unpaired creature when either enters. They remain paired for as long as you control both of them.)
As long as Tandem Lookout is paired with another creature, each of those creatures has "Whenever this creature deals damage to an opponent, draw a card."
2/1

[proper fiber]

in green you also have [[keen sense]] which is literally just a colorshifted curiosity and [[snake umbra]]
in Dimir there's also [[helm of the ghastlord]]

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/tsr/213/keen-sense

Keen Sense <:manag:292901508654301185>

Enchantment — Aura
Enchant creature
Whenever enchanted creature deals damage to an opponent, you may draw a card.
Crovax sensed that Mirri wasn't ready for the curse taking hold of her. Weeping in his heart, he fled.

https://scryfall.com/card/nec/130/snake-umbra

Snake Umbra <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manag:292901508654301185>

Enchantment — Aura
Enchant creature
Enchanted creature gets +1/+1 and has "Whenever this creature deals damage to an opponent, you may draw a card."
Umbra armor (If enchanted creature would be destroyed, instead remove all damage from it and destroy this Aura.)

https://scryfall.com/card/shm/166/helm-of-the-ghastlord

Helm of the Ghastlord <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaub:292901509056692224>

Enchantment — Aura
Enchant creature
As long as enchanted creature is blue, it gets +1/+1 and has "Whenever this creature deals damage to an opponent, draw a card."
As long as enchanted creature is black, it gets +1/+1 and has "Whenever this creature deals damage to an opponent, that player discards a card."

[proper fiber]

other than that there's also a handful of creatures that have curiosity stapled onto them, though you'd need to find a way for them to deal noncombat damage to opponents for that to matter.

[solemn idol]

Thank you

[blissful mantle]

hows it brewin' fellow brewers?

[wooden breach]

I keep seeing curious brews that use [[fear of infinity]] as a way to get a "leaves the graveyard" trigger for free

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/214/fear-of-infinity

Fear of Infinity <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment Creature — Nightmare
Flying, lifelink
This creature can't block.
Eerie — Whenever an enchantment you control enters and whenever you fully unlock a Room, you may return this card from your graveyard to your hand.
There are some nightmares so terrible, you're never truly rid of them.
2/2

[slim raft]

A little late to the party, but here you go 😄

There's a tag for Curiosity-like effects.

otag:curiosity

[long kiln]

Fine! I'm almost happy with the one you were helping me with 🙂 https://moxfield.com/decks/XzIOFpDEeEaYJaGMT_x_AQ

[halcyon herald]

Looking for input - Just updated this Juri sac list ive had for a while, i feel like its a bit better focused now, let me know if you see anything i can do better https://archidekt.com/decks/13106035/copy_of_bakugo_go_boom

[dry fable]

i have decided to build a 9 nazgul deck cause i like them

trying to figure out the best commander for them

here are some of the ones im considering

1. Tayam, Luminous Enigma- the nazgul are 3 cmc so she helps dig for them and they give a ton of counter to help recure them when they die or if i want to kill one and bring it back for a ring temp trigger. also GREEN. i am a green player mostly and feel naked when i dont have green

2 Sméagol, Helpful Guide- every nazgul is now a ramp spell and disruption thru mill. once again green. also there is a way to ring tempt in the command zone in case im not drawing more nazgul or other ring temp. ( i do have a smeagol deck with them in it but they are not the main focus. i would make one with them as the focus and support cards for them)

3. Sidar Jabari of Zhalfir- card filtering in eminace to find more nazgul as well as a way to recure them since they are nights. dont need to cast the commander if i dont want to and if the commander gets removed its not as back breaking. downside no green

4. Ratadrabik of Urborg- the ring makes the nazguls legendard ( 1 at a time but still) . i can kill 1 nazgul and bring it back for free and ring tempt twice making all the other nazgul bigger and making another legendary. can even kill one of the token copies so only 1 real nazgul has to die. will say this is probably most compative shell due to going infinie with any sac outlet but im not a big infinte combo guy so that not really as big as an appel as it might be to others. once again no green.

if any one has any other suggestions please lmk if not let me know which you think would be the best/most fun

im fine with this being a lower power deck and fine with it being higher power as i need more of both tbh. but i do need more lower power then higher power due to new players joining my play group. that could be this deck or another im fine with either

[wintry parrot]

i thought the other nazgul was good enough to be commander

those are the common ones i saw

[dry fable]

the lord of the nazgul is cool but im not really a spell slinger player. i tried him earlier today and won but it felt out of my wheel house

[wintry parrot]

tbh all these have different colors so it might as well depends what you want to add to the nazgul decks

[lusty pike]

Preparing for ff I pre made a Boros Cloud deck and I'm looking for some input to which card could I cut to add some of the revealed ones

https://moxfield.com/decks/GNT1BmEZcECl_baTzUaGkQ

ignore the mana base for now I havent actually put thought to it lmao

[sage horizon]

https://moxfield.com/decks/twm1F4gvREaDdkBW1MKSUg
I updated the Cloud deck it is fire! The mana value is 1.94 now

I put some stax cards to help out Cloud on protection

[true linden]

So which random characters will make good commanders

I want to make shadow a commander but that's cause he was my favorite

[wooden breach]

I kinda like Locke for theft

[[locke, treasure hunter]]

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/fic/87/locke-treasure-hunter

Locke, Treasure Hunter <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Human Rogue
Locke can't be blocked by creatures with greater power.
Mug — Whenever Locke attacks, each player mills a card. If a land card was milled this way, create a Treasure token. Until end of turn, you may cast a spell from among those cards.
2/3

[wooden breach]

Gives a way to steal and ways to make WUBRG to cast what you stole

I'm also a rakdos gamer so I'm biased

[long kiln]

Is it worth playing [[scrawling crawler]] in [[zurzoth, chaos rider]] if the one damage can't be increased since it makes opponent lose life not take one damage? I like the card

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/fdn/132/scrawling-crawler

Scrawling Crawler <:mana3:292901508771610624>

Artifact Creature — Phyrexian Construct
At the beginning of your upkeep, each player draws a card.
Whenever an opponent draws a card, that player loses 1 life.
It spreads the machine gospel of New Phyrexia, its task incomplete until all surrender to perfection.
3/2

https://scryfall.com/card/ncc/278/zurzoth-chaos-rider

Zurzoth, Chaos Rider <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Devil
Whenever an opponent draws their first card each turn, if it's not their turn, you create a 1/1 red Devil creature token with "When this token dies, it deals 1 damage to any target."
Whenever one or more Devils you control attack one or more players, you and those players each draw a card, then discard a card at random.
2/3

[long kiln]

Well guess I just explained it to myself thanks lol

[feral sapphire]

Needing help on the last 5 cuts - https://moxfield.com/decks/UfXGP0NEqUi1MbjU-pkTCg

[sage horizon]

Hey guys, I made a deck for my friend. He didn't really update it, nor does he really expect to get new cards so he usually gets free cards or just take the L. So I'm updating the deck little better it was bracket 1 and so now, I put it bracket 3. Anything you think I can do to help this Voltron deck?
https://moxfield.com/decks/iiIvRD6gH0CjKv_mo90PZg

[smoky pawn]

I have a soft spot in my heart for this commander. Things I would say:

• The Ozolith is an indespensible tool here. I don’t see it as an include in your list and I would highly recommend adding it.

• I’m not sure why you’ve included mill in this. With only the singular piece it doesn’t do much.

• I used effects like Fling to throw Juri and essentially get the trigger twice. Potential replacement for a removal spell in my opinion. Works even better when you can recast after The Ozolith gets all the counters.

• I’ve never found RMS Titanic to be compelling. It seems like a way to get treasures but it sits around for a whole turn cycle doing nothing thanks to summoning sickness. It’s also somewhat expensive when you could be dropping other threats on the board.

• I’d didn’t run a ton of equipments when I ran Juri. They cost quite a bit for incremental additions to the commanders power. I’d recommend leaning more into aristocrats pieces and token generators.

Overall some great stuff in this list. I’d be interested to hear how it plays in multiple pods.

[young phoenix]

idr if we were looking at this or not, but if its the same deck, how did it go?

[long kiln]

Hey, yes it's the one you were helping me with. I cut a land, added much more draw and some ramp

It feels pretty good for this power level

[young phoenix]

that makes sense

its always draw and ramp for every deck 😅

did you cut the devils you have before? since i didnt see what happened in the threat

thread

or just nothing new happened there

[long kiln]

Yes there are four devils beside commander now

I figured group draw would make enoug with zurzoth

And there were other creatures with better effects than these devils

https://moxfield.com/decks/XzIOFpDEeEaYJaGMT_x_AQ

You can check it here

i honestly think there could be one more targeted removal but I hope to just remove the player 😅

[long kiln]

And

I found [[rose, cutthroat rider]] that I didn't see in any Zurzoth deck

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/pip/920/rose-cutthroat-raider

Rose, Cutthroat Raider <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manar:292901508796645397><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Artifact Creature — Robot
First strike
Raid — At end of combat on your turn, if you attacked this turn, create a Junk token for each opponent you attacked. (It's an artifact with ", Sacrifice this token: Exile the top card of your library. You may play that card this turn. Activate only as a sorcery.")
Whenever you sacrifice a Junk, add .
3/2

[old turret]

I wanna make a deck on around a pre con budget

With Precon Budget i mean "Budget Friedly" not like some offical precons that are 70-80+

What would you consinder as a budget friendly precon price ? (maybe 30, 40??)

[hot mulch]

Looking to make a [[zenos]] deck using combos like [[grievous wound]] and [[wound Reflect]] to win

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/127/zenos-yae-galvus-shinryu-transcendent-rival

Zenos yae Galvus <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Human Noble Warrior
My First Friend — When Zenos yae Galvus enters, choose a creature an opponent controls. Until end of turn, creatures other than Zenos yae Galvus and the chosen creature get -2/-2.
When the chosen creature leaves the battlefield, transform Zenos yae Galvus.
4/4

Shinryu, Transcendent Rival
Legendary Creature — Dragon
Flying
As this creature transforms into Shinryu, choose an opponent.
Burning Chains — When the chosen player loses the game, you win the game.
"The heavens are too small a field for our dance. Let us transcend this mortal coil!"
8/8

https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/102/grievous-wound

Grievous Wound <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment — Aura
Enchant player
Enchanted player can't gain life.
Whenever enchanted player is dealt damage, they lose half their life, rounded up.
Vicky was so tired. The pain began to fade. "You were so brave," said her grandmother's voice from somewhere far away. "But it's time to rest now."

https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/113/wound-reflection

Wound Reflection <:mana5:292901508796645386><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment
At the beginning of each end step, each opponent loses life equal to the life they lost this turn. (Damage causes loss of life.)
The greater the suffering, the sweeter the taste.

[hot mulch]

How many "life halfers" and "damage Doublers" should I run to make this functional

For EDH

[young phoenix]

I agree, I didnt want to take out the devils because i thought you wanted more in 😅

[young phoenix]

relying to this^

[young phoenix]

what do you mean how many? are you limited by the number of wound reflections in the game or ?

if your deck is all 5+ big win-the-game-spells, no amount of win cons will get there because nothing can be played

[hot mulch]

i've never made a combo deck before

so idk how many combos to put in

[young phoenix]

from just one using tutor to as many as you can draw into are technically possible

but thats like the extreme of both ends and you can kinda see that not the "ideal" card ratio

i had one simic deck with like all the alternative win cons i could find and buy. it reached like 13 cards/ combo that say "win the game" this way or that way but its just slightly less memey than the precon "20 ways to win"

i can see the point of transformed zenos aka shinryu is to make sure the choice opponent lose while you have it n play

it really depends on how you plan on getting it out to begin with and how fast you can flip and then kill that player

i can see scenarios where the player is about to lose, so they get focused down before you have a chance to choose them

mono black has a lot of flexibility for what you want to build, even without tutors

just my 2 cents

[hot mulch]

could be instant, just run instant speed removal

[young phoenix]

each part is a hoop for yourself to jump through, and probably cost mana, sequencing, timing within the context of the game play

this is a mono colour deck where i would want to give small creatures to my opponent for that to happen

the land that taps for any colour

need lot of mana, and card advantage to get the damage combo piece that kill using big damage

[[into the abyss]]

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/m21/117/peer-into-the-abyss

Peer into the Abyss <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
Target player draws cards equal to half the number of cards in their library and loses half their life. Round up each time.
"Oh, don't be so dramatic. When your eyes bleed, and your brain leaks out your ears, then we'll talk about lost sanity." —Braids, dementia summoner

[young phoenix]

anything like this is technically a modal spell, either to end the player or to draw into your combo

scryfall all the potential cards that you can do before reverse engineering backward to see how you get there?

the wound relfection demon/ the super pricey blood letter of azocatos whatever name it is, any point of damage will be like 10 folds

note that those are all late game cards that has no place early on, not only do they not protect the commander, you have no boardstate to protect your life total

fun idea, make a thread and go along with it

[hot mulch]

i did make a thread but it's been stagnant lmao

I've also been considering just going voltron

[round sluice]

I really like that kind of card concept and the deck idea

not a great deck builder myself so don't have any suggestions but I would love to see the finished product

[young phoenix]

mention me there i will take a look

while I dont like making a deck that can do only one thing (since i did it so many times already) I guess i should be able to do that if thats the whole plan

I am too lazy to do the math if you want it to perfect, i just go by feel and past experience. I do like girl math and rough estimate for %s

[long kiln]

Monomon MVP for deckchecking

I will also definitely tag you somewhere in the future lol

[young phoenix]

😅

thx, whoever you are. too many people i chat with

[dusk dagger]

https://moxfield.com/decks/oD7kHEqhRkWUna_-g0rTqA

It's really hard brewing Choco

I think the shell I have is quite all right, but I feel like I want to include almost all the cards from the sideboard

:S

Decisions Decisions

[true linden]

He was one of my favorites

[winged frost]

I have a 101 question as I'm buildling my first "5 Color" mana base. I'm building Urtet with mainly Bant pips and am trying to keep the mana base budget friendly and want opinions as I consider the ___ Landscape Cycle think [[twisted landscape]]

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/232/twisted-landscape

Twisted Landscape

Land
: Add .
, Sacrifice this land: Search your library for a basic Swamp, Mountain, or Forest card, put it onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle.
Cycling (, Discard this card: Draw a card.)

[young phoenix]

idk what this is but I see skulking, mugging, playing an oversized opponent's commander deck in rakdos and I want it

i guess ideally only 1 land is mill each time but with enough mana the treasure may not even matters

[wooden breach]

You can also run [[chromatic lantern]] to make sure you're able to cast whatever you hit

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/otc/255/chromatic-lantern

Chromatic Lantern <:mana3:292901508771610624>

Artifact
Lands you control have ": Add one mana of any color."
: Add one mana of any color.
Dimir mages put the lanterns to good use, creating shapeshifters and sleeper agents from mana foreign to them.

[young phoenix]

i smell some burning oil and i think it came from the lantern control

good timing you have the other oil lamp XD

rakdos lantern control ... why am i poor is this set premium

[young phoenix]

nothing wrong with landscape for mana base whats the question i dont see one

[young phoenix]

every deck ever, did you make a thread?

[halcyon herald]

so when does my deck go from bracket 1 to 2? this is my sefris build(excluding lands) i just wanted to play fun dungeons and dragons stuff with the party mechanic included https://archidekt.com/decks/13185179/sefris_dnd_loner

id assume its a 2 but only because i stay have gary and syr konrad in the deck

[hallow flame]

https://moxfield.com/decks/9dDCH1PfPk29SYo7aFOUng Any tips for my deck, i feel like i lack trample but have decent ramp already in the deck. (sideboard is cards i wanna add and card i've removed from the precon)

[viral nexus]

Rate my deck. Any changes I should make to the sideboard or main deck?

[round sluice]

I would have more torch the towers for the aggro matchup

either 2 in the main or 1-2 in the sideboard

[round hatch]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxzK2m_dJqM5SNMWj3E_aGlFINKS4099in?si=pEhrLN1Jv7nagMLg

[dense escarp]

I've done it! I've mad an inalla deck I actually enjoy!!! She was my first commander and I didn't understand her so it took me a while to warm up to building her!

The main focus is being a toolbox deck with an emphasis on midrange control and bouncing/replaying wizards with relevant abilities, eventually keeping my copies from inalla and other means, and win by using inalla's second ability.

Let me know what you think and if there's anything I'm missing or that doesn't synergize!

https://moxfield.com/decks/erWiLPsDBEOBwykpTyV75Q

[bold rune]

Wierd idea for a voltron deck.
Esper Token Voltron, using [[Tawnos Solemn Survivor]] as the commander and [[Lurrus of the dream den]] as a companion

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/brc/3/tawnos-solemn-survivor

Tawnos, Solemn Survivor <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Human Artificer
, : Create a token that's a copy of up to one target artifact token you control. Mill two cards.
, , Sacrifice two artifact tokens, Exile an artifact or creature card from your graveyard: Create a token that's a copy of the exiled card, except it's an artifact in addition to its other types. Activate only as a sorcery.
1/3

https://scryfall.com/card/iko/226/lurrus-of-the-dream-den

Lurrus of the Dream-Den <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manawb:292901509044109312><:manawb:292901509044109312>

Legendary Creature — Cat Nightmare
Companion — Each permanent card in your starting deck has mana value 2 or less. (If this card is your chosen companion, you may put it into your hand from outside the game for as a sorcery.)
Lifelink
Once during each of your turns, you may cast a permanent spell with mana value 2 or less from your graveyard.
3/2

[clever gull]

I need to find a win con https://moxfield.com/decks/_kM0qkvRREae7levITgKFg?

[young phoenix]

control tutor voltron? i can see lot of equipments for this, no big swords is kinda the downside but lot of potential

[viral nexus]

Okay I now have 4 copies

I don't have to have all 4 in the mainboard but I can run up to 4 now

[round sluice]

Nice

[static reef]

how would a [[wizard class]] work in Hakbal deck? is there something better?

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/afr/81/wizard-class

Wizard Class <:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment — Class
(Gain the next level as a sorcery to add its ability.)
You have no maximum hand size.
: Level 2
When this Class becomes level 2, draw two cards.
: Level 3
Whenever you draw a card, put a +1/+1 counter on target creature you control.

[dense escarp]

I finally built a rat deck and HOOO BOY it's spicy imho

It's ashcoat graveyard shenanigans and mill (mostly for self, but mutual mill is utilized)

If it plays the way I think it will it might rival for my favorite deck!

https://moxfield.com/decks/ygrfrhbsTUOphPrmk3ysvQ

[young phoenix]

[[hakbal]] is there only one

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/3/hakbal-of-the-surging-soul

Hakbal of the Surging Soul <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manag:292901508654301185><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Merfolk Scout
At the beginning of combat on your turn, each Merfolk creature you control explores. (Reveal the top card of your library. Put that card into your hand if it's a land. Otherwise, put a +1/+1 counter on the exploring creature, then put the card back or put it into your graveyard.)
Whenever Hakbal attacks, you may put a land card from your hand onto the battlefield. If you don't, draw a card.
3/3

[young phoenix]

if you are looking for direct synergy, they technically dont interact with one another

but its simic and your card advantage usually goes through the roof

explores is like a draw sometimes at the cost of revealing the card and lets you surveil non lands into the grave

so if you have other ways to draw, top deck control

[static reef]

good thing about my pod is they dont even know what my cards do even if I let them read it

[young phoenix]

etc, then the card "draw" kind of synergize well

lol that sounds awful in many ways

[static reef]

we're all new and dumb

[young phoenix]

are they like super new to the game or dont care

sounds like abit of both

[static reef]

both for sure

we're all still trying to understand our own cards a bit haha I may be at bit of an advantage cause I only play the one deck

[young phoenix]

i think its good to start somewhere simple and not yugioh mini essay on each card with complicated interaction/ digging too deep into every trick and ruling

as long as you can follow the reminder text instructions

usually doesnt get too far

[static reef]

I've been play testing my deck heavy on forge so I have alot more experience then they would. I understand interactions alot more

[young phoenix]

its when people go by memory and make things up

[static reef]

and remade my deck about 4 times

[young phoenix]

want to show it?

[static reef]

ill dm you if you dont mind

ah doesn't matter

1sec

https://moxfield.com/decks/VkYwZxo6UUqSsv5-nhCdPg

I personally love what its become and im constantly making changes to it

[young phoenix]

interesting you managed to get black market into the deck. it feels too slow in too many decks and draws too much attention before getting the payoff

[young phoenix]

looking at it

is your group playing at bracket 3

[static reef]

we play online so ignore th price tag

and yes pretty much all of us have made upgrades

[young phoenix]

okay, cyc rift is just a salty card long before bracket was a thing

so i figured i need to confirm the group power level

[static reef]

well due to being the only one who plays removals, im usually targeted anyway

[young phoenix]

XD only one with removals this play group

is spreading sea important?

[static reef]

2 of them dont run blue at all, so kinda yea for my islandwalk

and I hope im not wrong but I've seen it used in a video and they were using it as a land for themselves and they also enchanted another players land

[young phoenix]

i guess the island walk merfolks are the ones i dislike for similar reason. kinda conditional

it can

[[blood moon]] do you know this card

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/118/blood-moon

Blood Moon <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manar:292901508796645397>

Enchantment
Nonbasic lands are Mountains.
Heavy light flooded across the landscape, cloaking everything in deep crimson.

[young phoenix]

the gist of it is that when a land "are [land type] " they essentially becomes something else from what they originally are supposed to be

as long as its not worded as "in additional to"

[static reef]

yes but no one runs it that I play with. we kinda have an agreement to not deny any lands

[young phoenix]

therefore, it will lose all previous abilities on it

so spreading sea only affect that one land

anything with a powerful effect can be "Negated" by overwriting it with "this is just an island and it taps for blue like all other islands"

[static reef]

I think that clarifies it a bit more for me. may have to read it few more times. lol

what if it said "in addition to its other types"

[young phoenix]

then it WILL NOT replace the original

[static reef]

would it now be mountain+island or
mountain or island

[young phoenix]

the simpliest visual i can think off is basically grabbing an island, and slap it ontop of the thing and ignore what it is

in the case of two things that can affect something

if both are independent, then time stamp matters

but it rarely happens

unless you try to make it happen

[[humidity]] is the unfun card that got onto the GC list

[rare escarp]

No card found for “humidity”

[young phoenix]

or whatever it is called

[static reef]

im not sure i know that card

let me look it up

[young phoenix]

those are basically ruling niightmare types of cards

[[humility]]

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/tpr/16/humility

Humility <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment
All creatures lose all abilities and have base power and toughness 1/1.
"One cannot cleanse the wounds of failure." —Karn, silver golem

[young phoenix]

text is so simple but it just doesnt explain what is going on in the card and how it affect other cards

[static reef]

maybe its so simple that it just does exactly what it says? maybe its my inexperience that I dont know a situation where it gets too confusing?

[young phoenix]

its not like people tries to make it a creature on purpose but the possiblility is there

i guess its more for people to challenge rules so they put the most niche things together

https://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/magic-fundamentals/magic-rulings/magic-rulings-archives/290232-opalescence-with-humility i can dm if you want random crap like this, since we are not really brewing a deck with those cards

[static reef]

[[opalescene]]

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/uds/13/opalescence

Opalescence <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment
Each other non-Aura enchantment is a creature in addition to its other types and has base power and base toughness each equal to its mana value.

[static reef]

well I was gonna ask what else do you think about the deck? maybe instead of wizard class, I could add [[nerd rage]]

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/pip/34/nerd-rage

Nerd Rage <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment — Aura
Enchant creature
When this Aura enters, draw two cards.
Enchanted creature has "You have no maximum hand size" and "Whenever this creature attacks, if you have ten or more cards in hand, it gets +10/+10 until end of turn."

[young phoenix]

lol fun card

idk if it is worth it but definitely fun to try

[static reef]

does same thing. and makes it big. in a merfolk deck, with the right card out, it could double that +10/+10

wait, its technically not a counter right? so my cards that double the counters won't matter, correct?

[young phoenix]

yeah those are not counters

and the max hand size goes away with the creature

wizard class has the benefit of not losing along with the creature

[static reef]

oh that's upsetting

backup is [[spellbook]] but meh boring

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/m10/220/spellbook

Spellbook <:mana0:292901467382087680>

Artifact
You have no maximum hand size.
"Everything the wise woman learned she wrote in a book, and when the pages were black with ink, she took white ink and began again." —Karn, silver golem

[young phoenix]

people would just do wizard class* instead

the most played are the land and mana rock

[[though vessal]]

[rare escarp]

No card found for “though vessal”

[young phoenix]

thought*

[static reef]

yea have thought in there already

and the other one

[livid charm]

Thought Vessel and Reliquary Tower

[static reef]

that

im always down for recommendations on replacements. let me know if I can change anything for something better

is there a better [[growth spiral]] ?

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/dsc/88/growth-spiral

Growth Spiral <:manag:292901508654301185><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Draw a card. You may put a land card from your hand onto the battlefield.
Hidden within the infinite, protean rooms of the House are strange pockets of power that only the bravest dare access.

[static reef]

no. there's not

[young phoenix]

at instant speed at 2 mana not really

sorcery would be green and 1 so it can be reduce by like medallion

or if it goes up to 4 mana then there are draw 2 then land

[dense escarp]

It's interesting to hear that perspective, for me I've found it to be a very reliable and fantastic early game black card. I've consistently have had it help me eek out wins, an extra card, extra mana, and a chump blocker when needed, all in a card type that is a bit finicky to get rid of. It may be too slow for this deck, won't know till I play but it's been consistent enough of an engine for me to usually include it in first drafts of black decks

[young phoenix]

i think its at least decent here

because you have ton of ways to kill your own creatures

but on the surface, it is a "big turn" do-nothing enchantment

full rotation may still be doing nothing

but that one game where it gets 5+10+ counters

its the dream

if someone is willing to sacrfice a turn cycle to "do nothing" its usually a "guarantee" untapped mana ex.[[timeless lotus]] or a draw 5-7 full hand refill

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/dmu/239/timeless-lotus

Timeless Lotus <:mana5:292901508796645386>

Legendary Artifact
Timeless Lotus enters tapped.
: Add .
Urza exploited nature to power his war machines; in time, nature exploited his war machines to renew itself.

[young phoenix]

at sorery speed

too many cards are instant and give the option to do that at the last possiblem moment [[quick study]] [[stinging study]] so those slowly pushes the "wait til your next turn/upkeep" effect out of the format

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/fdn/513/quick-study

Quick Study <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Draw two cards.
At first, Johann was annoyed that the library had decided to reorganize itself. But he had to admit that storing the cookbooks in the cauldron made a certain kind of sense.

https://scryfall.com/card/c21/44/stinging-study

Stinging Study <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
You draw X cards and you lose X life, where X is the mana value of a commander you own on the battlefield or in the command zone.
Silverquill first-years welcome discomfort in the classroom, knowing it will prepare them for the years ahead.

[young phoenix]

ofc, if [[black market]] cast + a boardwipe, then none of that really matters

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/clb/739/black-market

Black Market <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment
Whenever a creature dies, put a charge counter on this enchantment.
At the beginning of your first main phase, add for each charge counter on this enchantment.

[young phoenix]

you have gravepact & erebos (both i dont expect to see often since i play at a lower power) which functions like a board wipe in some case

already established board control with no additional mana in the same turn and early mana acceleration also added to that equation

5 mana is often early-mid game for lower power decks is definitely an important point

and high power deck dont always want to put 5 mana on something without immediate payoff

[dense escarp]

I just realized you and I were talking about two very different cards 😂😂😂 @young phoenix I read that as "black market connections", no I agree, I have since cut black market and some other self mill effects to refocus on ashcoats first ability. The second is really good but I don't think there's enough utility rat creatures in the deck that warrant trying to fill and then toolbox my graveyard with it. Rather treat it like general recursion and attrition

[young phoenix]

oh lol XDDD

yeah i didnt say the word connection but those names can be easily confused

[young phoenix]

oh rip, you cut it after all. I was praising you for making it work

should have cut revel in riches

[dense escarp]

Well I was goldfishing and at 5 mana, I wanna be threatening 1 or 2 player kills at that point honestly or doing some other shenanigans

[young phoenix]

yeah i know

[dense escarp]

It's definitely on the chopping block because I'm refocusing on combat, it's another 5 mana do nothing

[young phoenix]

thats why i was impressed when i saw it in a bracket 4 deck

or i think it was 4 at some point

did it lowered to 3

[dense escarp]

It's 4

[young phoenix]

okay, the site is lying

as usual

[dense escarp]

Ah okay I checked yeah it lowered to 3

[young phoenix]

3 by technicallity but is really still a 4

[dense escarp]

By my estimation

I cut bolas' citadel and I'm on the fence with that

[young phoenix]

bolas is kinda a boring card, it feels like a coin flip win at that point from my experience

[dense escarp]

Cause yes I can play out a ton in one turn but I don't have haste in my deck so I can't win on spot

[young phoenix]

but the coin will keep on increasing the odds on the winning side

so the entire table have to get rid of it before its too late

[dense escarp]

Yeah exactly

[young phoenix]

i like bracket 2 or home pod with less of the "you-win/lose-the-game-cards"

[dense escarp]

I learned to play magic in level 4 pods so I'm just kinda used to that style of play

Not quite cedh but some flash with power

[young phoenix]

if i want to play coin flip i can do the cyclop homuculus

duo

[dense escarp]

Oooh that one is fun

[young phoenix]

i like my 15 mana turn with some janks here and there which doesnt guarantee a win XD

[dense escarp]

See now you got me hmmming and haaing about black market 😂😂

[young phoenix]

specifically for that deck tho, i would ask to rule 0 so i can play mana crypt in place of sol ring

[dense escarp]

Ahh yeah

I gotcha

I had k'rrik son of yawgmoth in there

Wasn't exactly sure, I'm thinking he should be back in

Cut revel for him

[young phoenix]

faster than revel in general

[dense escarp]

Yeah and does more early and long game

[young phoenix]

hard to say for sure because some times its match up dependent

[dense escarp]

Or I can play both and see what gets funked up

[young phoenix]

without other treasure synergy

revel is a little weaker, but end of the day it is still making treasures

cant find room for the [[pitiless plunderer]]?

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/208/pitiless-plunderer

Pitiless Plunderer <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Human Pirate
Whenever another creature you control dies, create a Treasure token. (It's an artifact with ", Sacrifice this token: Add one mana of any color.")
"Shame to let good gold go to the grave."
1/4

[young phoenix]

i think this one is easier to loop with

creatures on your side is easier than opponents' side

scaling it is technically worse since its 1 against 3 boardstate

but hey, free skullclamp

[dense escarp]

Yeah, I think it does threaten against blocks though

[young phoenix]

yEaH wE BrOkeN sKuLlClAmP!

i dont expect too much get blocked in general when players have life to spare

depends if they can trade the creatures

[dense escarp]

True but even if they wanted to chump now it threatens to give me more mana

Aight check the list out, I added back some power houses

[young phoenix]

can you relink

😅

[dense escarp]

https://moxfield.com/decks/ygrfrhbsTUOphPrmk3ysvQ

[young phoenix]

bolas cit back in

[dense escarp]

The more I thought about it, you're right

The odds increase rhe longer it exist

[young phoenix]

i didnt know this alter art version of marrow gnawer is actually cheaper

still way out of my budget for life but somehow cheaper

[dense escarp]

And considering this deck is gonna be about playing ashcoat at the right time and going for the kill

Playing a ton out.and then dropping ashcoat could be the move

[young phoenix]

how do people feel about the third haste boots in general

[dense escarp]

There's another???

Ohhh shiiii lava spur boots, krenko be calling you

[young phoenix]

its lowkey the "worst" one but if you need haste, you need haste

i usually only use two of the 3 because i really dont need all 3 and i try not to build monolith commander

or some case only 1 for combo

more like accelerate not real combo

[dense escarp]

Yeah, there's really no combos in this deck and it's kinda by design

[young phoenix]

krenko dont need boots goblins are fast bois

[dense escarp]

I just have the two to make ashcoat stick longer

[young phoenix]

bolas combo with itself 1 card storm with 40 life count?

[dense escarp]

Torment of hailfire side eyeing the chat rn😂😂

[young phoenix]

if it is not for haste but for protection, then yeah, dont need lava boots

torment combo with your opponent's life XD

[dense escarp]

The haste is nice, means I can trigger his on attack ability sooner, and that's what this deck is built around. Big azz rats

[young phoenix]

[[spectrum sentinel]] i wonder how much this can do at the everyone playing fetch land power level

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/bro/244/spectrum-sentinel

Spectrum Sentinel <:mana1:292901508373282827>

Artifact Creature — Soldier
Protection from multicolored (This creature can't be blocked, targeted, dealt damage, enchanted, or equipped by anything multicolored.)
Whenever a nonbasic land an opponent controls enters, you gain 1 life.
1/2

[young phoenix]

just lacks the life gain > win synergy

[dense escarp]

Here's the main cards I'm on the fence about

• black market
• revel in riches
• neceopotence
• pitiless plunderer

Fantastic cards and definitely help speed up the game plan but I'd feel much happier at 33 lands instead of 30.

[young phoenix]

either its the loops already out, or your commander is Dina

lol every card in this discussion

black market is arguablly the most fun but also most unstable payoff

high risk potential non guarantee reward

[dense escarp]

It's really good removal bait

Frankly all 3 I mentioned are

All 4*

[young phoenix]

revel is a better removal bait in this case

[dense escarp]

Yeah, I like the universality and repeatability of black market too though. Having a massive black pool of mana can be threatening

[young phoenix]

same curve, comes out at roughly the same time,cares about stuff dying, faster payoff and scarier because it has a second line of blank text that looks more threatening than it really is most of the time

[dense escarp]

Exactly

[young phoenix]

i think revel can fit in a lot other decks

so if i find the perfect deck for black market i want to use it there rather than the stable one

just a chance to play with the card

is that a logical thought ? 😅

[dense escarp]

Part of me is thinking of dropping 5 rat colonies, bumping up to 35 lands and keeping my craziness the same everywhere else. I'll see the colonies pretty consistently when it's a 10th of my deck

It is,

[young phoenix]

necropotence, really hard to judge on powerlevel because it is straight up better in too many ways 3 mana draw enough to get the best 7 cards as long as you are willing to risk it

but card draw do depends on how good the rest of the deck is

since it is a game changer, its not like people would/can use it in a lowpower deck and get bad cards

and no reason to in the first place

pitiless plunderer is somewhere in between, value, engine and combo

better in some decks and okay in others

[dense escarp]

I cut neceopotence originally because in my neceopotence is a combo digging card. You spend a shii ton of life, get your combo and run it early to mid game

Considering how much other draw i already have, it doesn't feel like it does much beside give me options

[young phoenix]

unfortunately i dont know the math on that, it could hurt the consistency so you may want to check the % first

[dense escarp]

I'd be seeing about 2.42 lands every opening hand on average

[young phoenix]

if necro is an unneed win more card, fine with cutting it. if the deck needs an upgrade, easy slot in, just like any tutors

[dense escarp]

At 30 it's 2.12, so not sure if .3 difference is worth sweating at this point

Avg cmc is 2 with or without lands so I'm still running pretty low to the ground

I think the best thing to do is just sleeve it up and play it now. It's got some fantastic pieces, in theory should absolutely zoom ahead between turns 3 and 5 and threaten a win by turn 5 or 6

7 more likely

Start cutting what feels like fat

[young phoenix]

trim it down to the bone

💀

[dense escarp]

Too duh boe-nuh

I mean it's at least in a consistent direction. Play a ton of rats, beef up my rats for playing rats, kill dumb lil rats to make more and bigger rats recur things that die cause of course I need more rats

And all my concerns are just accrued through normal play. Mana and card draw from things dying anyway

I definitely am coming out in the positive with a board wipe

[young phoenix]

yeah, it is strong against wipes

[fresh walrus]

I need some cards that when played can completely ruin the one who played it, their whole game. Like for example [[eater of days]] or [[leveler]]. this is kind of a side chaos deck minigame

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/dst/120/eater-of-days

Eater of Days <:mana4:292901508712890379>

Artifact Creature — Leviathan
Flying, trample
When this creature enters, you skip your next two turns.
When Mirrodin's varied civilizations developed ways to fight the levelers, Memnarch upped the stakes.
9/8

https://scryfall.com/card/mrd/195/leveler

Leveler <:mana5:292901508796645386>

Artifact Creature — Juggernaut
When this creature enters, exile all cards from your library.
Once a century, the levelers rip through every corner of Mirrodin, obeying the commands of an unseen master.
10/10

[grizzled bloom]

Is it a hot take that [[Tom Bombadil]] decks are eating great with the Final Fantasy set?

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/ltr/234/tom-bombadil

Tom Bombadil <:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920><:manar:292901508796645397><:manag:292901508654301185>

Legendary Creature — God Bard
As long as there are four or more lore counters among Sagas you control, Tom Bombadil has hexproof and indestructible.
Whenever the final chapter ability of a Saga you control resolves, reveal cards from the top of your library until you reveal a Saga card. Put that card onto the battlefield and the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order. This ability triggers only once each turn.
4/4

[bold rune]

Pretty happy with Teval list as is, not really looking for Deck ideas with it, just a better name

https://manabox.app/decks/dk8HpldLRbe2fk2Pxbzzyg

[young phoenix]

are you doing beamtown bully or something

[fresh walrus]

Kinda like a treasure cruise side deck

[young phoenix]

[[dubious challenge]] is a funny one

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/kld/152/dubious-challenge

Dubious Challenge <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manag:292901508654301185>

Sorcery
Look at the top ten cards of your library, exile up to two creature cards from among them, then shuffle. Target opponent may choose one of the exiled cards and put it onto the battlefield under their control. Put the rest onto the battlefield under your control.

[young phoenix]

so you want curse

?

or instant kill type of treasure

the enchantments that can make you lose the game

some of the lich cards can end the controller game when they leave

[fresh walrus]

Yeah that kinda stuff. Also gonna have so very powerful positive cards

[halcyon herald]

Please help me make the cuts that are needed thank you https://archidekt.com/decks/13323339/you_get_one_and_i_get_two

group hug/ spellslinger, I have a couple cards in sideboard i dont own aswell

i think i need to cut some of the creature package but i dont know where to start

[wispy atlas]

Oh Scryfall Masters

I come with a syntax problem.

I am trying to search for creature cards that reduce cost of equipping

For example

Fervent Champion reads

Equip Abilities you activate that target Fervent Champion cost 3 less to activate

How would I search for more abilities like this on Scryfall

[young phoenix]

cant you do words like o:equip cost less/ "cost X mana" etc as the oracle text

[nova wagon]

https://moxfield.com/decks/fdwCTB0eGES23wzKSt-vXA opinions?

[molten nova]

Looking for some cool living weapons or mechanically similar cards that count themselves as an equipped creature for a Go-Wide strat with [[Cloud, Ex-SOLDIER]] to take advantage of Cloud's uncapped draw ceiling that just cares about number of attacking creatures that are equipped.

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/fic/2/cloud-ex-soldier

Cloud, Ex-SOLDIER <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manar:292901508796645397><:manag:292901508654301185><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Creature — Human Soldier Mercenary
Haste
When Cloud enters, attach up to one target Equipment you control to it.
Whenever Cloud attacks, draw a card for each equipped attacking creature you control. Then if Cloud has power 7 or greater, create two Treasure tokens.
4/4

[molten nova]

[[Nettlecyst]] is going to be an auto-include obvs

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/233/nettlecyst

Nettlecyst <:mana3:292901508771610624>

Artifact — Equipment
Living weapon (When this Equipment enters, create a 0/0 black Phyrexian Germ creature token, then attach this to it.)
Equipped creature gets +1/+1 for each artifact and/or enchantment you control.
Equip

[restive pebble]

Hi everyone, I'd like some feedback on a Bracket 3 Grixis goad deck I'm brewing. I'm getting pretty happy with what's there, but any pointers, particularly for any obscure cards I could have a blindspot for would be richly appreciated.

https://archidekt.com/decks/12782947/grixis_goad_politics

It started as a Firkraag deck, and then I noticed that there were too many good rakdos and black cards that help get violence going at the table. I primarly want this to be a deck that accellerates the game to end.

[split mulch]

Hey yall. Im working on an anikthea oath of druids deck, and Im looking for budget enchantments that can help me push a win without a bunch of creatures in play. My mind went to [[painful quandry]] but I feel like there are better options. Thanks for the help!

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/fdn/179/painful-quandary

Painful Quandary <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment
Whenever an opponent casts a spell, that player loses 5 life unless they discard a card.
In Mishra's desperation to destroy his brother, he allowed Gix to destroy him instead.

[steady isle]

Any advice on improving my Standard deck? https://moxfield.com/decks/XA_7CGayd0m6LP01_TTGBg

[tame fossil]

Finally got around to doing my Ureni precon upgrades
Sideboard is things I removed from the precon
Maybeboard is things I bought to potentially use in the deck

Ideally, I'd hit Bracket 3 with the deck, but don't want to go too crazy with it.
(I think I'm there with just the Mystical Tutor and infinite bounce combo.)

Right now, my main concern is refining the manabase without having to go out of budget for Fetches and such. Any advice is appreciated, comment on the archidekt itself or message me here and I'll answer when I can.

https://archidekt.com/decks/13294686/ureni_dragons_again

[bold rune]

Vid recommendations for upgrading The Jeskai Striker precon? Going with [[Shiko and Narest Unified]] as the commander since this deck style is out of my comfort zone

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdc/7/shiko-and-narset-unified

Shiko and Narset, Unified <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338><:manar:292901508796645397><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Creature — Human Spirit Dragon
Flying, vigilance
Flurry — Whenever you cast your second spell each turn, copy that spell if it targets a permanent or player, and you may choose new targets for the copy. If you don't copy a spell this way, draw a card.
For peace, lead by example.
4/4

[bold rune]

Moved my question from the commander chat to here, was a debate going on and I dont lile to interrupt

[grizzled bloom]

I feel like this deck needs a lot of work and refocusing to be decent
https://archidekt.com/decks/13367219/piracy_treasure_and_boats

[true linden]

I wanna build so many of these final fantasy characters as commanders. How many will make actual good commanders though lol

[rose hinge]

Right?? 😭😭
I’m prepared to make a kefka deck that blows myself or everyone around me up, or falls flat with a fizzle. Simply because kefka is so cool

I’m trying to make a cat deck for my wife that makes cats incredibly difficult to kill / very well protected. Maybe with a deck theme “unkillable cats” or, “group hug cat cafe”

My first thoughts were Mono green or Selesnya considering the protection and life gain. Open to any commander suggestions if yall have any ^^

[true linden]

Yeah his card looks amazing

[rose hinge]

Any commanders you’re looking to try and build?

[true linden]

Maybe mog. I wanted to build cyan but his ability isn't a good commander ability. I wanted to do shadow as well cause he was one of my favorites

Edgar could be interesting in an artifact deck

I thought about taking all the final fantasy characters and throwing them in a jodah deck

[rose hinge]

Feels like that’d be strong for sure just considering jodah. Would also be a super cool looking deck

[true linden]

Maybe the sponge Bob one and make the whole thing universes beyond. Even the lands

[rose hinge]

Fortnite the deck

[true linden]

I want to build Freya but I was already working on a boros equipment deck. So I might just make 2 decks lol. I think she'd be an awesome commander

Well 2 equipment decks. I got like 4 or 5 under construction

[bold rune]

Anyone mind me peeking at their [[Shiko and Narset Unified]] list? Not used to this deck style

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdc/7/shiko-and-narset-unified

Shiko and Narset, Unified <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338><:manar:292901508796645397><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Creature — Human Spirit Dragon
Flying, vigilance
Flurry — Whenever you cast your second spell each turn, copy that spell if it targets a permanent or player, and you may choose new targets for the copy. If you don't copy a spell this way, draw a card.
For peace, lead by example.
4/4

[young phoenix]

thread/deck?

[young phoenix]

i feel like what ever you can add may make the card pool run thin, unless it is a model or just strictly better upgrade. For goading everything is pretty much there already

there are always interesting ways to create other ways to many goading more effective, or with rani just flicker a bunch, but how to make those creature hard to block so nothing dies in combat?

[restive pebble]

Flickering isn't a terrible idea, but I'm not sure what I'd cut to support it.

[young phoenix]

tons of dragons already in the deck and still countless good yet pricey ones in the game. i guess it may come down to changing them out for more synergy between the dragons, maybe cut down the curve, like if there are too many 6 drops? addiitonally

[restive pebble]

There are a few good ETBs beyond just Rani that would benefit from flickers.

[young phoenix]

one thing i notice about ureni would be that the chance of whiffing is kinda low when you have 8 cards to look at each time, but it will only ever get one into play. so whatever it gets, probably need to do a certain amount of work on board to be worth it? and techniclly dont need run a lot, like a tribal deck, and can add more support cards, or doublers type of enhancing effects

ramp looks good (maybe too much idrk without tags) but draws seems to be on the low side

mystical tutor lacks options here if most are ramp spells and few interaction/removal

as a dragon tribal deck, it will do fine. just giving my thought on "if I am to use Ureni as much as I can, how would I want to adjust the 99 to fit what it wants to do" in case if something bad enough happens so you have no access to the commander, is the deck still going to run well

miirym is lowkey an alternative commander in the deck too

last thing i would like you to do would be splitting dragons into categories, such as... Utility/ability, Damage, Ramp?, Card advantage etc to pick the best of the ones you want

finding the overlaps with other dragons, especlly the other legendary ones to see what would fit in the 99 of those

15 cards away from using [[keruga]] as a companion lol

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/iko/225/keruga-the-macrosage

Keruga, the Macrosage <:mana3:292901508771610624><:managu:292901509035851788><:managu:292901509035851788>

Legendary Creature — Dinosaur Hippo
Companion — Your starting deck contains only cards with mana value 3 or greater and land cards. (If this card is your chosen companion, you may put it into your hand from outside the game for as a sorcery.)
When Keruga enters, draw a card for each other permanent you control with mana value 3 or greater.
5/4

[young phoenix]

[young phoenix]

Hi, I agree, the cut is hard with so many themes

[restive pebble]

Well what's one of the weaker themes that could be cut do you think?

Most of what I'm focusing on are things that will accelerate the game, while not being overly symmetrical in bonuses.

The idea was almost group hug with goad to begin with, but I paired back a lot of the group hug.

I did have the [[Hunted Horror]] as well, as I love the idea of helping everyone get better board-states while goading them to make sure the game ends sooner than later.

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/clb/758/hunted-horror

Hunted Horror <:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Horror
Trample
When this creature enters, target opponent creates two 3/3 green Centaur creature tokens with protection from black.
7/7

[restive pebble]

But... Protection of Black makes a lot of my goad tools not work.

[[Hunted Phantasms]] did not make it because 5 1/1's is hard to goad.

[[Hunted Phantasm]]

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/rav/55/hunted-phantasm

Hunted Phantasm <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Spirit
This creature can't be blocked.
When this creature enters, target opponent creates five 1/1 red Goblin creature tokens.
4/6

[young phoenix]

its always awkwards on cutting reflexible spells. are you playing the deck in bracket 2?

[restive pebble]

2 or 3 depending on where it lands.

Just in performance.

[young phoenix]

how important is [[counterspell]] to you

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/dsc/114/counterspell

Counterspell <:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Counter target spell.

[restive pebble]

I'm lacking late game infinites to be at the outside border of Bracket 3.

[young phoenix]

2 blue pips in 3 colour deck, no direct synergy or added effect to deck's game plan

[restive pebble]

Ah I see your point. The playtesting did show that out too...

[young phoenix]

i never mind arcane denial since its not a 1 for 1 trade

but i usually never start with cutting removal/flexible/staple right of the bat

[restive pebble]

I could easily go for a better counterspell tho.

[young phoenix]

its basically dumb to cut a sol ring type of scenario but i do have decks that dont run sol ring because it simply dont need it

[restive pebble]

I thought about that, but I need the ramp in this deck.

[young phoenix]

how many staples in the 99 you want is part of my question

yeah in your colour, in this type of deck

[restive pebble]

Not essential, but I think counter-magic is madatory to keep up with some of the nonsense that will happen in bracket 3.

[young phoenix]

not saying sol ring is a cut here, just giving an example of my own deck where i have like 4 mana pips on cards

[restive pebble]

Also, in playtesting, keeping 2 mana open for a counterspell also bookends well with cracking clues from Rani at the right-player's end step.

[young phoenix]

okay so we can assume there will be open mana as you pass the turn

[restive pebble]

It's not every turn, but it's common.

So I think I'm keeping the counter magic, and honestly the sol ring and other ramp is part of keeping that mana open.

[young phoenix]

just realized [[war's toll]] is one sided and doesnt affect the controller

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/bbd/187/wars-toll

War's Toll <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manar:292901508796645397>

Enchantment
Whenever an opponent taps a land for mana, tap all lands that player controls.
If a creature an opponent controls attacks, all creatures that opponent controls attack if able.
Razia, archangel of war, demands total commitment.

[restive pebble]

That... isn't terrible...

[young phoenix]

i confused the abiliy with like [[tecotnic instability]] or something

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/inv/173/tectonic-instability

Tectonic Instability <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manar:292901508796645397>

Enchantment
Whenever a land enters, tap all lands its controller controls.
"Think of the problems we'll face if you uproot entire continents," said Urza. "I have," replied Teferi, "but the alternative is worse."

[restive pebble]

I do want a lot of things that force people into combat more oftne.

[young phoenix]

this one hurts yourself so its not good for blue decks

[restive pebble]

I'm almost more interested in making sure games go quickly than I am in having a dominant board state.

[young phoenix]

yeah, control and quick games is hard to mix

[restive pebble]

Well things like the goad enchantments and ranni and descent into avernus accelerate the game.

[young phoenix]

something i was looking for would be getting Rani out with [[leyline of anticipantion]]

because rani technically do nothing when first cast onto your board

its only until opponents combat does it matters

holding all the open mana and responding to wipes last minute seems more important

but the problem is how much [[leyline of anticipation]] works in the 99. how often can you get those supports into your hand without tutoring

[restive pebble]

Leyline of Anticipation is cute but Rani also allows me to politic.

[young phoenix]

politic also slows the game down XD

[restive pebble]

The politicing is 'who wants to swing this turn anyways?'

So that's not slowing down at all, that's giving someone gas.

[young phoenix]

i was thinking, Rani out, protect yourself and force people who refues to move into bad attacks

[restive pebble]

Tonnes of that in the deck already.

Flicker would help me get those more or two more times.

[young phoenix]

because if ethe goading creatures dont connect

their both eopponents will lose creatures

result in less damage or no damage at all

no clue tokens as well

[restive pebble]

That might be overthinking it a bit.

[young phoenix]

so in a way, goading more with flicker

would buff more

but still dont guarantee the hit

[restive pebble]

But what gets removed? Things that force bad trades, like [[Death Kiss]] or [[The Sound of Drums]]?

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/clb/675/death-kiss

Death Kiss <:mana5:292901508796645386><:manar:292901508796645397>

Creature — Beholder
Whenever a creature an opponent controls attacks one of your opponents, double its power until end of turn.
: Monstrosity X. (If this creature isn't monstrous, put X +1/+1 counters on it and it becomes monstrous.)
When this creature becomes monstrous, goad up to X target creatures your opponents control.
5/5

https://scryfall.com/card/who/97/the-sound-of-drums

The Sound of Drums <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manar:292901508796645397>

Enchantment — Aura
Enchant creature
Enchanted creature is goaded.
If enchanted creature would deal combat damage to a permanent or player, it deals double that damage instead.
: Return this card from your graveyard to your hand.

[young phoenix]

i noticed the thing you are missing

[[bothersome quasit]]

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/clb/674/bothersome-quasit

Bothersome Quasit <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manar:292901508796645397>

Creature — Demon
Menace
Goaded creatures your opponents control can't block.
Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, goad target creature an opponent controls. (Until your next turn, that creature attacks each combat if able and attacks a player other than you if able.)
3/2

[restive pebble]

It's in the sideboard. I removed it when I realized I'm kind of light on non-creature spells.

[young phoenix]

but cant block is important

[restive pebble]

Or at least, when I removed it I was, I added more noncreature spells.

That is neat, but goaded creatures without vigilance wont' be able to block for longer than their first turn out anyhow.

[young phoenix]

if the [[kardur, doomscourge]] damage /drain is enough to close out the game, then it doesnt matter, but I think goaded creatures getting blocked is a big deal if oyu need the damage through

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/dsc/223/kardur-doomscourge

Kardur, Doomscourge <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Demon Berserker
When Kardur enters, until your next turn, creatures your opponents control attack each combat if able and attack a player other than you if able.
Whenever an attacking creature dies, each opponent loses 1 life and you gain 1 life.
4/3

[restive pebble]

That card is realy there for the ETB more than anything else.

[young phoenix]

yeah i know

in non goading decks, i love [[angel's trumpet]]

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/ulg/121/angels-trumpet

Angel's Trumpet <:mana3:292901508771610624>

Artifact
All creatures have vigilance.
At the beginning of each player's end step, tap all untapped creatures that player controls that didn't attack this turn. This artifact deals damage to the player equal to the number of creatures tapped this way.

[restive pebble]

And while it isn't goad that doesn't interact with the commander, it does still keep combat moving and it does synergize with my backup commadner, [[firkraag]]

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/clb/648/firkraag-cunning-instigator

Firkraag, Cunning Instigator <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manau:292901508754702338><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Dragon
Flying, haste
Whenever one or more Dragons you control attack an opponent, goad target creature that player controls.
Whenever a creature deals combat damage to one of your opponents, if that creature had to attack this combat, you put a +1/+1 counter on Firkraag and you draw a card.
3/3

[young phoenix]

it was so hard to get vigilance into my non white combat decks

[restive pebble]

OOo that is fun.

[young phoenix]

but it dont work here

i think

you dont want blocks

[restive pebble]

No I want things tapped so I can attack with Rani more often.

And that as well.

Rani can attack people safely more often if they had to swing with most of their board the previous turn.

[young phoenix]

but it basically force all summoning sickness creatures

to tap

[restive pebble]

Especially when I have a suspect or menace applied unexpetedly.

[young phoenix]

so a 3 mana authority of consul

oh yeah that works with suspect

[restive pebble]

But my deck wants things to be tapped when they attack so I can continue getting the attack triggers from my commander.

[young phoenix]

rani can always goad herself so get the big toughness and clue of the second part

[restive pebble]

Yeah I do that in playtests sometimes.

Because I want to attack so often, why not?

[young phoenix]

blue unblockable as low as 1 mana

rani voltron XD

wants things to be tapped when they attack

what do you mean by that

even if they are not tapped on attack, its on damage that triggers clue

[restive pebble]

Just reaffirming that this doesn't work.

[young phoenix]

yeah, thats what i said at the begining lol

it lowkey force everything to attack but unless you do the instant goading/ blocking with an attack all out deck

its more downside than upside

and giving vigilance is automatically bad if you want to tap things down

[restive pebble]

Agitator ant could probably be replaced with Troublesome Quazit.

[young phoenix]

I think so

so far I only ever played agitator ants to keep my own creatures alive rather than to protect myself from attacks

since i have no control where the counter goes

and i dont own quasit since its like 10+$ or something

no reprint from that one jeskai's will precon

[restive pebble]

I'm proxying everything.

[young phoenix]

i wish i play with proxy, may consider buying some to look at and play test some day

[restive pebble]

Particularly with decks that you kind of don't know how they work due to the political nature of them like this one, you have to playtest.

[young phoenix]

it really depends on the people oyu play with too

[restive pebble]

I don't have a regular pod.

[young phoenix]

exactly

[restive pebble]

It's all LGS.

[young phoenix]

against randoms, even if you somewhat know them

i think more people i came across are making more emotional play despite trying to make the best logical play

so there are always very limited perfect threat assessment on the table

if you piss someone off, they will target you more

[restive pebble]

Yeah kinda brings the mood down sometimes.

[young phoenix]

politicking is hard

have to somewhat predict what your deck brings

i am going to drag you into a thread that may interest you

[static reef]

https://moxfield.com/decks/VkYwZxo6UUqSsv5-nhCdPg

can someone help me choose which cards I should replace with the cards in my sideboard?

all aren't necessary

ive noticed i need some more card draw, some more control of others boards, and maybe more wincons besides swinging slowly

im thinking take out [[growth spiral]] or [[spreading seas]] for [[kindred discovery]]

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/dsc/88/growth-spiral

Growth Spiral <:manag:292901508654301185><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Draw a card. You may put a land card from your hand onto the battlefield.
Hidden within the infinite, protean rooms of the House are strange pockets of power that only the bravest dare access.

https://scryfall.com/card/zen/70/spreading-seas

Spreading Seas <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment — Aura
Enchant land
When this Aura enters, draw a card.
Enchanted land is an Island.
Most inhabitants of Zendikar have given up on the idea of an accurate map.

https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/159/kindred-discovery

Kindred Discovery <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment
As this enchantment enters, choose a creature type.
Whenever a creature you control of the chosen type enters or attacks, draw a card.
Few things are truly "lost" at sea.

[young phoenix]

i dont think spreading sea is as important as ramp

but it is more of a removal than card draw

so those are not 1 to 1 replacements

can always think about cutting merfolk if you want to focus more on lands and card draw

anthem effect instead of only going wide, going tall can add exponent damage rather than going linear

can aim for tutor and mass draw for consistency

has room to change "nonbo"

or more value payoff

i dont really like the untap for pseudo vigilance after combat here, unless they are for combos i dont see

i dont mind having all interaction with the instantsorcery but it is missing out on all the potential combat related cards that green has or what blue would turn unblocked creatures into an alpha strike with no counterplay

i like when lands can do more than just making mana but at the moment mana seems fine as it is

i would like more since the deck should be running all the green ramp

which will also thin out the lands and increase the chance of getting +1 counters

but reduce the chance of top decking lands from explore

there are probably creatures that wont be attacking, so explore on those creatures doesnt matter whenever it gets a counter or not as long as it can block

i cant find myself liking some of the etb explore merfold [[cenote scout]]

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/lci/178/cenote-scout

Cenote Scout <:manag:292901508654301185>

Creature — Merfolk Scout
When this creature enters, it explores. (Reveal the top card of your library. Put that card into your hand if it's a land. Otherwise, put a +1/+1 counter on this creature, then put the card back or put it into your graveyard.)
"If you're afraid to dive into the unknown, how will you ever find anything new?"
1/1

[young phoenix]

this is just draw the top card if it is a land or a 2/2 with surveil 1

redundant ability with the commander out, but it is probably coming out before the commander

and sits on board early gaem

do nothing mid-late game

[tame fossil]

@young phoenix

tons of dragons already in the deck...
yeah, I'm trying to keep this as something of a "Budget Build" without directly copying another list I can find on Command Zone, MTG Goldfish, etc. Sadly, a lot of the better dragons are the more expensive dragons which I can't acquire any time soon.

one thing i notice about ureni would be that the chance of whiffing is kinda low...
ramp looks good (maybe too much idrk without tags) but draws seems to be on the low side
I'm starting to wonder if maybe I could pull out a ramp spell or two for something like a Brainstorm or Harmonize to go with Banner, Bond, Uprising, Ascendancy, and Kiora, for things that "just sit there and let me draw cards."
I did just find a [[Warstorm Surge]] in another box, and with the Sorcery ramp I have, I was thinking of removing Encroaching Dragonstorm to fit it in.

mystical tutor lacks options here if most are ramp spells and few interaction/removal
that was one of my concerns about running Tutor, a lack of options. at the moment, my main targets for it would be Klauth's Will, Blasphemous Act, or Last Night Together to try for a wipe or end to the game. part of me wants to see about fitting in a Rewind, Simic Charm, or Temur Charm for a bit more interaction and protection (and Tutor targets), but don't have the faintest clue on what would be worth pulling out.

as a dragon tribal deck, it will do fine...
miirym is lowkey an alternative commander in the deck too. last thing i would like you to do would be splitting dragons into categories, such as... Utility/ability, Damage, Ramp?, Card advantage etc to pick the best of the ones you want
a lot of discussions I kept finding around "temur dragons" typically note how using miirym as the commander is a good way to get targeted, which is part of the reason why I have it in the 99. it's still a great card, but the more time I have to set up my board, the better I'll feel and Miirym can still pay off later

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/clb/815/warstorm-surge

Warstorm Surge <:mana5:292901508796645386><:manar:292901508796645397>

Enchantment
Whenever a creature you control enters, it deals damage equal to its power to any target.
"Listen to the roar! Feel the thunder! The Immersturm shouts its approval with every bolt of lightning!"

[young phoenix]

tag the dragons as much as you can

[twin flame]

How many lands typically go in a landfall deck like [[Choco, Seeker of Paradise]]

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/215/choco-seeker-of-paradise

Choco, Seeker of Paradise <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manag:292901508654301185><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Bird
Whenever one or more Birds you control attack, look at that many cards from the top of your library. You may put one of them into your hand. Then put any number of land cards from among them onto the battlefield tapped and the rest into your graveyard.
Landfall — Whenever a land you control enters, Choco gets +1/+0 until end of turn.
3/5

[twin flame]

39? 40? 41? - I feel like theres no precise answer lol

[limpid gale]

@bold rune you could triple the attack trigger, tho. strionic resonator, lithoform engine, ... loads of these.

[bold rune]

True but I could just instead inscrease the damage with Gratuitous violence effects or by giving him deathtouch to lower the amount needed to make excess damage

Or both

[limpid gale]

double strike works as well, right? extra combats would also do the trick. let me check one thing

[limpid gale]

intriguingly [[aggravated assault]] gives you infinite combats if you can convert some of the colourless mana into red mana. gemstone array, that prism thing, ...

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/ons/185/aggravated-assault

Aggravated Assault <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manar:292901508796645397>

Enchantment
: Untap all creatures you control. After this main phase, there is an additional combat phase followed by an additional main phase. Activate only as a sorcery.

[bold rune]

Tbh I'm kinda avoiding infintes atm

With megs I more so just like lasering things down

Even considered throwing [[Draco]] in just for gits and shiggles

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/pls/131/draco

Draco <:mana16:292901508708564993>

Artifact Creature — Dragon
Domain — This spell costs less to cast for each basic land type among lands you control.
Flying
Domain — At the beginning of your upkeep, sacrifice this creature unless you pay . This cost is reduced by for each basic land type among lands you control.
9/9

[bold rune]

Give megan Deathtouch anf throw down a [[world on fire]] and sac draco for big number

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/m13/158/worldfire

Worldfire <:mana6:292901508780130304><:manar:292901508796645397><:manar:292901508796645397><:manar:292901508796645397>

Sorcery
Exile all permanents. Exile all cards from all hands and graveyards. Each player's life total becomes 1.
Even the smallest spark may set a world ablaze.

[bold rune]

Not that on

One*

[[City on fire]]

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/mom/135/city-on-fire

City on Fire <:mana5:292901508796645386><:manar:292901508796645397><:manar:292901508796645397><:manar:292901508796645397>

Enchantment
Convoke (Your creatures can help cast this spell. Each creature you tap while casting this spell pays for or one mana of that creature's color.)
If a source you control would deal damage to a permanent or player, it deals triple that damage instead.

[limpid gale]

city on fire i think

ye

[bold rune]

That one

16 x 3 = 48 damage to the creature then 47 rolls over amd gets tripled again

141 to face

[limpid gale]

[[spine of ish-sah]]

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/moc/383/spine-of-ish-sah

Spine of Ish Sah <:mana7:292901508540792835>

Artifact
When this artifact enters, destroy target permanent.
When this artifact is put into a graveyard from the battlefield, return it to its owner's hand.

[bold rune]

Already in deck, love that card

[[Scion of draco]] is also pretty good

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/234/scion-of-draco

Scion of Draco <:mana12:292901508838850560>

Artifact Creature — Dragon
Domain — This spell costs less to cast for each basic land type among lands you control.
Flying
Each creature you control has vigilance if it's white, hexproof if it's blue, lifelink if it's black, first strike if it's red, and trample if it's green.
4/4

[limpid gale]

yeah but you do need it on the field

[bold rune]

Ye that's its main purpose, just buff the rest of my dudes

But can always sac it for 12 damage

[limpid gale]

do you have sneak attack and the purpohoros?

metalwork colossus is also great!

skitterbeam battalion lol

[bold rune]

My copy of sneak attack is in another deck rn but i run metalwork

One card I wish I could use tho

[[Gleemax]]

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/unh/121/gleemax

Gleemax <:mana1000000:936814586814922843>

Legendary Artifact
You choose all targets for all spells and abilities.
Help us . . . R&D under mental domination of alien brain in jar . . . only chance . . . Gleemax's blatant disregard for flavor text . . . send help!

[bold rune]

Mana cost: 1,000,000

To urge to rule 0 this in for ONE GAME is strong

But I think in a way I do get sneaky with megs

[limpid gale]

have you looked into modular creatures?

[bold rune]

Mostly by finding ways to give my opponent I wanna laser down a 1/1 or 2 then lasering it down

Stuff like [[Forbidden orchard]]

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/323/forbidden-orchard

Forbidden Orchard

Land
: Add one mana of any color.
Whenever you tap this land for mana, target opponent creates a 1/1 colorless Spirit creature token.

[steady isle]

https://moxfield.com/decks/BZVnGnBl4EyNZsvgdjhdIA

Was hoping to get feedback on this sideboard.

It is my first attempt at a sideboard on my own.

[primal fulcrum]

https://archidekt.com/decks/13418599/one_wheel_to_bring_them_all_and_in_the_darkness_bind_them
Hoping for some feedback on my Sauron wheels deck. Trying to make it more competitive and consistent.

[limpid gale]

anyone play [[lurrus]] here? do you think [[market gnome]] is worth it?

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/iko/226/lurrus-of-the-dream-den

Lurrus of the Dream-Den <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manawb:292901509044109312><:manawb:292901509044109312>

Legendary Creature — Cat Nightmare
Companion — Each permanent card in your starting deck has mana value 2 or less. (If this card is your chosen companion, you may put it into your hand from outside the game for as a sorcery.)
Lifelink
Once during each of your turns, you may cast a permanent spell with mana value 2 or less from your graveyard.
3/2

https://scryfall.com/card/lci/22/market-gnome

Market Gnome <:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Artifact Creature — Gnome
When this creature dies, you gain 1 life and draw a card.
When this creature is exiled from the battlefield while you're activating a craft ability, you gain 1 life and draw a card.
"Maize, sweet and fresh! Tamal, hot and filling! Water, still or sparkling!"
0/3

[grizzled bloom]

I really want to try building [[!Xyris]]

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/dmc/175/xyris-the-writhing-storm

Xyris, the Writhing Storm

[tribal matrix]

When building a deck and trying to find win conditions. Do you all struggle with not forming infinite combos? Like I enjoy interesting interactions but cards that just generate infinite draw and mana kind of feel uneventful. Its just "Oops I win"

I want to make a mono red artifact/treasure deck. Im trying to build the 99 first but I want to have Chiss Goria at the helm. Just struggling on what exactly I wanna do to win. A LOT of artifacts create infinite combos. Which I guess is fine but wanted advice on what you guys do to find win conditions

The typical chiss deck is just "look at my blightsteel colossus " and I dont wanna do that lol

I think the things I want to do are 1. Create a lot of treasures or artifact creatures to build a board state with lots of mana to cast spells. 2. Filter my deck with Chiss for combo pieces that work with the artifacts I create. 3. Have big powerful finishers like crackle with power etc.

[grizzled bloom]

I don't like playing infinite combos

[round sluice]

i do

but only some

depends on if they are fun/annoying

[wooden breach]

So here's the thing

Craterhoof is a one card combo that wins the game with the right board state

Triumph of the horde is a one card combo that wins the game with the right board state

It's really not that different in terms of ways to win. Combo decks just explode a lot more suddenly

And both beating down and comboing off have ways to tell you that they're gonna take over. Beatdown might be getting more and more aggressive with their creatures, and combo might be drawing more and more cards or tutoring for more stuff

[elder lagoon]

Also something I’d like to add is that just because they cast a bunch of spells to win doesn’t necessarily mean the combo’d. A good example is my xyris deck I play a bunch of cards that give my creatures haste. And stuff that makes my creatures tap for mana. The way I win is dealing damage with spells or combat damage. The spell route works only because how much mana I can produce.

[wind wren]

I like building very complicated infinites into my decks, so a combo that requires 5 cards, it's funny to get off.

Honestly, Commander is the only format that we can really play combos. Standard / Modern / Legacy are all too fast to play them. Certain combos can only be run in Legacy and there just aren't games around for that.

So janky combos are relegated to kitchen table magic, which is now Commander.
In a 100 card deck where we can only have 1 of each card, I think that running combos to reward our deckbuilding - or punish us for not running enough interaction to stop other combo players

[tribal matrix]

I appreciate the sentiment. I think wholly I just dont like how an infinite combo feels to win. Like orvar copying 10000 peregrine drakes or milling an opponent for 1000 cards.

When I played worldwake. I had a rite of replication + halimar excavator combo that only mills about 180 cards. Which in 60 card formats is a win. But it wasn't infinite it was just good and could be dealt with in a lot of ways. But I just dont like "I win". It feels bad.

Another example is how my prosper decks win cons are exsanguinate and torment of hail fire. Both are deterministic but neither is "i do x forever'

One idea I'm working on for the artifact deck is a tokens/treasure/etb damage effects. The goal is to make chiss the commander for value but I didn't want to make the deck "look at my blightsteel colossus everyone". That feels too Timmy even if the commander is suited to that playstyle

So like thopter tokens. Myr tokens. Treasure tokens. Lots of artifacts to make chiss cheap. Use him to find pieces to coordinate wins and protect my board state (permanents have ward 2. Or chmil)

I think that will be more fun and I can still use something like Magda to tutor out all my useful artifacts as a wincon with out it strictly being a Magda deck. And it'll let me be silly by adding some good artifact synergistic dragons to the mix for a literal hoard of dragon gold

Might even get real classic and throw in a fireball in there for fun

[glass thorn]

Hey ya’ll !!

Is anyone a Wort, Boggart Auntie player?

Would love some help if you wanna talk in a dm !

[true linden]

What are some good black cards for [[sephiroth fable soldier]] to create tokens in black [[avenger of the fallen]] seems great if you have 4 creatures in your yard already. Or things to trigger his flip more frequently

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/115/sephiroth-fabled-soldier-sephiroth-one-winged-angel

Sephiroth, Fabled SOLDIER <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Human Avatar Soldier
Whenever Sephiroth enters or attacks, you may sacrifice another creature. If you do, draw a card.
Whenever another creature dies, target opponent loses 1 life and you gain 1 life. If this is the fourth time this ability has resolved this turn, transform Sephiroth.
3/3

Sephiroth, One-Winged Angel
Legendary Creature — Angel Nightmare Avatar
Flying
Super Nova — As this creature transforms into Sephiroth, One-Winged Angel, you get an emblem with "Whenever a creature dies, target opponent loses 1 life and you gain 1 life."
Whenever Sephiroth attacks, you may sacrifice any number of other creatures. If you do, draw that many cards.
5/5

https://scryfall.com/card/tdm/73/avenger-of-the-fallen

Avenger of the Fallen <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Human Warrior
Deathtouch
Mobilize X, where X is the number of creature cards in your graveyard. (Whenever this creature attacks, create X tapped and attacking 1/1 red Warrior creature tokens. Sacrifice them at the beginning of the next end step.)
2/4

[maiden cedar]

I quite like [[Sedgemoor Witch]]

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/stx/86/sedgemoor-witch

Sedgemoor Witch <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Human Warlock
Menace
Ward—Pay 3 life. (Whenever this creature becomes the target of a spell or ability an opponent controls, counter it unless that player pays 3 life.)
Magecraft — Whenever you cast or copy an instant or sorcery spell, create a 1/1 black and green Pest creature token with "When this token dies, you gain 1 life."
3/2

[maiden cedar]

I'm building an [[Aragorn, Aragorn, Hornburg Hero]] Vehicle and Mount deck (Bracket 2, maybe 3)

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/ltc/492/aragorn-hornburg-hero

Aragorn, Hornburg Hero <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397><:manag:292901508654301185><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Creature — Human Soldier
Attacking creatures you control have first strike and renown 1. (When a creature with renown 1 deals combat damage to a player, if it isn't renowned, put a +1/+1 counter on it and it becomes renowned.)
Whenever a renowned creature you control deals combat damage to a player, double the number of +1/+1 counters on it.
4/4

[maiden cedar]

It's going... okay? But I suppose I wanted insight on what y'all wound consider to be "must-run" vehicles in a Naya deck

[split mulch]

im just curious, but why did you pick this commander for the vehicle archetype?

[mortal fable]

any thoughts on [[zenos, yae galvus]]

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/127/zenos-yae-galvus-shinryu-transcendent-rival

Zenos yae Galvus <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Human Noble Warrior
My First Friend — When Zenos yae Galvus enters, choose a creature an opponent controls. Until end of turn, creatures other than Zenos yae Galvus and the chosen creature get -2/-2.
When the chosen creature leaves the battlefield, transform Zenos yae Galvus.
4/4

Shinryu, Transcendent Rival
Legendary Creature — Dragon
Flying
As this creature transforms into Shinryu, choose an opponent.
Burning Chains — When the chosen player loses the game, you win the game.
"The heavens are too small a field for our dance. Let us transcend this mortal coil!"
8/8

[mortal fable]

as a commander

[wooden breach]

Have only spells that target 1 opponent

Be the ultimate "fuck you in particular" kind of deck

[mortal fable]

yeah

i havent had anyluck tho

idk if its worth playing cause you become the opne the whole board targets very fast

[wooden breach]

True, but consider: You're playing Zenos

Being the main villain is kinda the whole deal

[mortal fable]

yeeaaaaa

I just need to perfect it im not good at making decks but zenos seems so fun

[elfin horizon]

guhhhh really excited to build a [[choco seeker]] deck

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/215/choco-seeker-of-paradise

Choco, Seeker of Paradise <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manag:292901508654301185><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Bird
Whenever one or more Birds you control attack, look at that many cards from the top of your library. You may put one of them into your hand. Then put any number of land cards from among them onto the battlefield tapped and the rest into your graveyard.
Landfall — Whenever a land you control enters, Choco gets +1/+0 until end of turn.
3/5

[dusk dagger]

https://discord.com/channels/574711449566445603/1373055175752945744

It's super fun

Hope tomorrow I cam finish my primer

https://moxfield.com/decks/TdWXfoYbo02MRI7DR8cwwQ

[elfin horizon]

oh i am not going to build a $5000 deck

and if i do it’ll all be just cards i print out on my laserjet

[signal ivy]

Actually made a deck for this!

https://moxfield.com/decks/P8dy3xso90qw1SHR7H2wXQ

[mortal fable]

noice

[signal ivy]

I still want to playtest it more but its fun!

[mortal fable]

yeeee

[mortal fable]

Im playing my version of the deck rn, maybe we could call later and compare or smth

[torpid galleon]

Any thoughts on this Vren rat control cancer deck?
https://archidekt.com/decks/13484186/raaats

I was told nobody would want to play against this...

[mortal fable]

heheh

I love rat decks

I play mine with marrow gnawer though

can i try your deck in moxfeild sometime?

It looks fun to play

maybe not to play against but fun to play lol

[torpid galleon]

Sure man. I don't make any special claim to it. It's just a rat spam deck with an infinite combo or two

[mortal fable]

seems fun

lmao

i like the deck hate

[torpid galleon]

Tempted to add "Braids, Cabal Minion" though.

Just spread the hate every turn and hopefully get some lands

[mortal fable]

ooo

that would be good

[torpid galleon]

Wonder if there's anything I can use to double upkeeps?

[mortal fable]

What do you mean

you can always remove a swamp for cabal minion

theres plenty of other land i feel like

[torpid galleon]

Nah that's not cancer enough

I mean something like this: https://gatherer.wizards.com/pages/card/details.aspx?name=Paradox Haze

[mortal fable]

lmao

add

so many triggers hehehehehehe

it seems to play good by itself with no other interactions\

Im deff gonna play this deck later tonight rats are just so cool and aggresive

[mortal fable]

what are the infinites

[torpid galleon]

marrow gnawer + staff of domination + ashnod's altar

Thats all I have figured out rn, but I'll take more!

[mortal fable]

oooo

as long as you have 4 rats to start the combo

hehehee

[normal kernel]

https://moxfield.com/decks/AWydwoM42ECnSFL0iB8qoA

Looking for some advice on this deck with [[gavi nest warden]]. I’m focusing more on card draw and discard than cycling for the most part. Thinking of putting [[moonshaker cavalry]] in?

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/c20/7/gavi-nest-warden

Gavi, Nest Warden <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338><:manar:292901508796645397><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Creature — Human Shaman
You may pay rather than pay the cycling cost of the first card you cycle each turn.
Whenever you draw your second card each turn, create a 2/2 red and white Dinosaur Cat creature token.
A mother's love transcends species.
2/5

https://scryfall.com/card/woe/21/moonshaker-cavalry

Moonshaker Cavalry <:mana5:292901508796645386><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Creature — Spirit Knight
Flying
When this creature enters, creatures you control gain flying and get +X/+X until end of turn, where X is the number of creatures you control.
High King Kenrith's armies followed him into the afterlife, ready to charge at his command.
6/6

[dusk dagger]

It's all in the lands, the deck itself is dirt cheap

[bold rune]

Definitely going in my spirit tribal deck

[twin flame]

I must peep

[signal ivy]

I might take out Trikadekophobia, but I like the list!

[mortal fable]

would turn 4 win by casting everything you have in you rdeck be a bracket 3😭

[mortal fable]

any one gpt a fun commader i can try

[mortal fable]

Any thoughts about [[shroofus sproutshire]] as a commander for an aggro sapporling deck

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/j25/54/shroofus-sproutsire

Shroofus Sproutsire <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manag:292901508654301185>

Legendary Creature — Saproling
Trample
Whenever a Saproling you control deals combat damage to a player, create that many 1/1 green Saproling creature tokens.
His laughter—and everything else about him—was infectious.
1/1

[wispy atlas]

Seems reasonable

[mortal fable]

Im really horrible at building decks, can someone help me at some point

card knowledge is important for this part of the game and i have noneeee

I wanna build a nice [[erinis, gloom stalker]] and [[street urchin]] deck that has good token making so i can sac creatures to deathtouch ping

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/clb/230/erinis-gloom-stalker

Erinis, Gloom Stalker <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manag:292901508654301185>

Legendary Creature — Halfling Ranger
Deathtouch
Whenever Erinis attacks, return target land card from your graveyard to the battlefield.
Choose a Background (You can have a Background as a second commander.)
3/3

https://scryfall.com/card/clb/197/street-urchin

Street Urchin <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Enchantment — Background
Commander creatures you own have ", Sacrifice another creature or an artifact: This creature deals 1 damage to any target."
Your harsh upbringing on the streets of the city left you crafty, resilient, and wise beyond your years.

[fickle hornet]

Does anyone run [[marisi, breaker of the coil]]

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/c19/46/marisi-breaker-of-the-coil

Marisi, Breaker of the Coil <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397><:manag:292901508654301185><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Creature — Cat Warrior
Your opponents can't cast spells during combat.
Whenever a creature you control deals combat damage to a player, goad each creature that player controls. (Until your next turn, those creatures attack each combat if able and attack a player other than you if able.)
"Cast off the law! Awaken your rage!"
5/4

[wooden breach]

The tireless twins [[tireless provisioner]] [[tireless tracker]]

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/moc/313/tireless-provisioner

Tireless Provisioner <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manag:292901508654301185>

Creature — Elf Scout
Landfall — Whenever a land you control enters, create a Food token or a Treasure token. (Food is an artifact with ", , Sacrifice this token: You gain 3 life." Treasure is an artifact with ", Sacrifice this token: Add one mana of any color.")
3/2

https://scryfall.com/card/inr/219/tireless-tracker

Tireless Tracker <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manag:292901508654301185>

Creature — Human Scout
Landfall — Whenever a land you control enters, investigate. (Create a Clue token. It's an artifact with ", Sacrifice this token: Draw a card.")
Whenever you sacrifice a Clue, put a +1/+1 counter on this creature.
3/2

[mortal fable]

yep i got them in there lol

[wooden breach]

On top of that we have [[legion extruder]]

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/big/12/legion-extruder

Legion Extruder <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397>

Artifact
When this artifact enters, it deals 2 damage to any target.
, , Sacrifice another artifact: Create a 3/3 colorless Golem artifact creature token.
When the vault door opened, ancient war machines rumbled to life.

[wooden breach]

[[beacon of creation]] is just silly

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/5dn/82/beacon-of-creation

Beacon of Creation <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manag:292901508654301185>

Sorcery
Create a 1/1 green Insect creature token for each Forest you control. Shuffle Beacon of Creation into its owner's library.
A chorus of life heralds the arrival of Mirrodin's final sun.

[wooden breach]

[[chittering dispatcher]]

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/m3c/63/chittering-dispatcher

Chittering Dispatcher <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manag:292901508654301185>

Creature — Eldrazi Drone
Devoid (This card has no color.)
Myriad
When this creature leaves the battlefield, create a 0/1 colorless Eldrazi Spawn creature token with "Sacrifice this token: Add ."
Eldrazi spawn are not their cherished young they are smaller weapons.
2/3

[wooden breach]

[[esika's chariot]] duplicate some of your better tokens

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/khm/169/esikas-chariot

Esika's Chariot <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manag:292901508654301185>

Legendary Artifact — Vehicle
When Esika's Chariot enters, create two 2/2 green Cat creature tokens.
Whenever Esika's Chariot attacks, create a token that's a copy of target token you control.
Crew 4
4/4

[halcyon herald]

Looking for new upgrades for my captain howler decklist currently playing in bracket 2 games felt a bit low on draw that sticks last couple games, dont know if i need mroe engines or something else, maybe its my whole board sticking so i need more protection. thanks for any input https://archidekt.com/decks/12385977/you_arrr_a_pirate

[sand oracle]

https://discord.com/channels/574711449566445603/1380960687530053702

Looking for input on a single cut to add The Warring Triad. It functions as a third Spectral Searchlight: adds 1 mana to my or my brother's pool.

Deck FAQ TL;DR - two decks, identical card for card, played together by two players in a multiplayer pod. It's an "us vs the table" thing and it's not two headed giant.

[sand oracle]

The first cards I'd think to cut are:

• Arcane Signet
• Fellwar Stone
• Thought Vessel

Basically a bunch of relatively effectless 2 mana rocks in a mono red deck.

[idle glacier]

Im thinking mono blue voltron and I want to use Jill from ff

I don't know what cards would allow me to do that.

Cause I do want to flip her

I know i can use stuff like exalted

[molten nova]

hey hopping in for a quick card usage question. what's the best usage for [[mystic remora]] because I am just not getting it the cumulative upkeep seems like you'll spend all game paying for it and like the card draw is good but the mana tax seems counter intuitive

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/dmr/59/mystic-remora

Mystic Remora <:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment
Cumulative upkeep (At the beginning of your upkeep, put an age counter on this permanent, then sacrifice it unless you pay its upkeep cost for each age counter on it.)
Whenever an opponent casts a noncreature spell, you may draw a card unless that player pays .

[deep wedge]

Any deck ideas for [[Kefka, Court Mage // Kefka, Ruler of Ruin]]?

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/231/kefka-court-mage-kefka-ruler-of-ruin

Kefka, Court Mage <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Human Wizard
Whenever Kefka enters or attacks, each player discards a card. Then you draw a card for each card type among cards discarded this way.
: Each opponent sacrifices a permanent of their choice. Transform Kefka. Activate only as a sorcery.
4/5

Kefka, Ruler of Ruin
Legendary Creature — Avatar Wizard
Flying
Whenever an opponent loses life during your turn, you draw that many cards.
The end draws near.
5/7

[deep wedge]

I read on moxfield and the decks ive seen are mostly

1. Discard group slug

2. Wheels

3. Reanimator

4. FF themed grixis good stuff

[wooden breach]

Step 1: [[psychosis crawler]]

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/234/psychosis-crawler

Psychosis Crawler <:mana5:292901508796645386>

Artifact Creature — Phyrexian Horror
Psychosis Crawler's power and toughness are each equal to the number of cards in your hand.
Whenever you draw a card, each opponent loses 1 life.
"If that brain can't figure out the secret of the serum, then add more brains." —Rhmir, Hand of the Augur
*/*

[wooden breach]

Step 2: Uhm

Step 3: Win

[burnt brook]

I need some help with Urza, Lord High Artificer. I just pulled the Tera Branford art version of him. What are some good wincons for him? How should I build him? Never built mono-blue

[idle glacier]

Look at Cedh, he is loved there a lot

[burnt brook]

Is there a CEDH section?

[lime pivot]

Hey! In my experience there's like 2 ways to play it - a turbo way and a midrange way.

The turbo way is best if you're high in turn order. on the first turn, players are typically wanting to play out their fast mana to get set up, sometimes even going like, land, mox, mox, wheel into more free mana. There's a lot of noncreature spells being played so you can get a lot of value out of just playing remora and letting it draw you cards as people set up, you don't necessarily have to commit to paying the upkeep

The midrange way involves holding off on playing it for a few turns until you can afford to keep paying the upkeep a few times while also doing other things - this lets u get more long term value out of it

[lime pivot]

What kind of decks are u playing it against?? It's best in cEDH or similar where other decks are doing a lot. If everyone just plays land creature pass turn it's pretty bad

[proper fiber]

Slot it into a random deck and see how many cards you draw off of it.

Unless your entire pod plays super creature focussed decks, chances are you'll draw a few cards per turn rotation off of it. just leave it around for lile 1-2 turns, thebcumulative upkeep really isn't too crazy

early on people will probably play ramp spells and rocks into it

if they don't then that's good for you too, means you slowed them down

[lime pivot]

Real it's just a rlly good card

and if you keep making land drops the upkeep pays for itself, so say u have like, a bunch of things to do at 3 mana, you can get to 3 mana available, play it for 1, cast other things for 2

then it helps you make your land drop next turn, so now you have 4 mana, spend 1 on your upkeep, do something useful with the other 3

then it helps you make your next land drop, so now you have 5 mana, spend 2 on your upkeep, do something useful with the other 3

chances are at some point you drew more mana rocks so the pool u have to use each turn while still paying for upkeep tends to grow anyway

[elfin horizon]

https://moxfield.com/decks/u8e-ONd_PES4pkrK-Ra0Lw

Here's what I got for my Chocobo deck so far. I want it to be bracket 3ish, and the only real gamechanger I have in it is Crop Rotation right now

[mortal fable]

what should I use as a pirate commanderthats focus is stealing permanents

[bold rune]

Any recommendations for tribal cards in Orzhov that help protect the board?

Commandet is [[King of the Oathbreakers]]

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/ltr/211/king-of-the-oathbreakers

King of the Oathbreakers <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Spirit Noble
Flying
Whenever King of the Oathbreakers or another Spirit you control becomes the target of a spell, it phases out. (Treat it and anything attached to it as though they don't exist until your next turn.)
Whenever King of the Oathbreakers or another Spirit you control phases in, create a tapped 1/1 white Spirit creature token with flying.
3/3

[mental ice]

[[guardian of faith]] is the most obvious one.

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/afr/18/guardian-of-faith

Guardian of Faith <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Creature — Spirit Knight
Flash
Vigilance
When this creature enters, any number of other target creatures you control phase out. (Treat them and anything attached to them as though they don't exist until their controller's next turn.)
3/2

[mental ice]

There are also spells that can protect your board with the commander in play. [[eerie interlude]] [[cauldron haze]]

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/khc/22/eerie-interlude

Eerie Interlude <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Instant
Exile any number of target creatures you control. Return those cards to the battlefield under their owner's control at the beginning of the next end step.
The barrier between existence and oblivion is thinner than you know.

https://scryfall.com/card/eve/84/cauldron-haze

Cauldron Haze <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manawb:292901509044109312>

Instant
Choose any number of target creatures. Each of those creatures gains persist until end of turn. (When it dies, if it had no -1/-1 counters on it, return it to the battlefield under its owner's control with a -1/-1 counter on it.)

[mental ice]

jank spells like this one that target all of your dudes might be good

[deep snow]

Hi friends
I built a Wandeing Minstrel Bracket 1/2 deck based around the idea of "wandering creatures." Yidaro was my template of creatures that shuffle themselves into the deck.
Have a dragon sub-theme because of Omens
Not playing Bounce lands for power reasons. They would be really good in this deck, but I want to try and power down the deck.
Same reason not playing Maze's end, not how I want to win the game.

https://archidekt.com/decks/13720844/wandering_deck

[bleak magnet]

So, I'm having fun with my Vivi deck in MTG Arena, and I'm curious about if there's any sort of ways to spread counters that you'd get from Vivi's ability to other creatures?

I had another idea. Temur Vivi/Sazh.

[cunning spoke]

I think maybe goldberry?

Depending what you mean by spread them around

Tho it’s more she moves them to her then moves them to other creatures

Or the ozolith if you charge the counters kill vivi and let the counters go there

[steel dock]

[[don andres, the renegade]]

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/6/don-andres-the-renegade

Don Andres, the Renegade <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Vampire Pirate
Each creature you control but don't own gets +2/+2, has menace and deathtouch, and is a Pirate in addition to its other types.
Whenever you cast a noncreature spell you don't own, create two tapped Treasure tokens.
"Why climb the tangled rigging of the Legion of Dusk's hierarchy when I can fly a free flag of my own?"
4/3

[prime seal]

Im making my girlfriend a commander deck i was wondering if someone can look at it and see if theres anything that can be improved. Want to keep it relatively cheap and simple and casual. https://moxfield.com/decks/lAmgZQwFD0CJtWoG8tLOcw

[elfin horizon]

if im gonna build [[hope estheim]], is there any merit to going like 90% lifegain vs 10% mill enablers? i figure most of the milling will be because of his trigger

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/226/hope-estheim

Hope Estheim <:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Human Wizard
Lifelink
At the beginning of your end step, each opponent mills X cards, where X is the amount of life you gained this turn.
"If we have the power to destroy Cocoon, then we have the power to save it."
2/2

[wooden breach]

Idk if you even want mill enablers

If you gain 50 life in a turn that's 50 cards gone

If anything you'd want like, bruvac and water crystal

[wild bone]

I want to build [[Lightning, security sergeant]] badly, but i REALLY don't want to build her voltron, anyone experienced in red know of any things i can do for her?
Was thinking of doing exiling shenanigans to give myself card advantage but I don't really know what kind of gameplan i would have then. Another idea was to try and build around a combo (even though i dislike combos a lot..)
Any advice is grateful 'w ')7

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/560/lightning-security-sergeant

Lightning, Security Sergeant <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Human Soldier
Menace (This creature can't be blocked except by two or more creatures.)
Whenever Lightning deals combat damage to a player, exile the top card of your library. You may play that card for as long as you control Lightning.
2/3

[wooden breach]

https://scryfall.com/search?as=grid&order=name&q=oracle%3A"Other+than+your+hand"+commander%3AR+(game%3Apaper)

[[party thrasher]] + [[nalfeshnee]]

[rare escarp]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/129/party-thrasher

Party Thrasher <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397>

Creature — Lizard Wizard
Noncreature spells you cast from exile have convoke. (Each creature you tap while casting a noncreature spell from exile pays for or one mana of that creature's color.)
At the beginning of your first main phase, you may discard a card. If you do, exile the top two cards of your library, then choose one of them. You may play that card this turn.
1/4

https://scryfall.com/card/clb/678/nalfeshnee

Nalfeshnee <:mana5:292901508796645386><:manar:292901508796645397>

Creature — Beast Demon
Flying
Whenever you cast a spell from exile, copy it. You may choose new targets for the copy. If it's a permanent spell, the copy gains haste and "At the beginning of the end step, sacrifice this permanent." (A copy of a permanent spell becomes a token.)
4/6

[wild bone]

thank ya, i got a better idea on what to do now 'w ')7

[long oar]

https://archidekt.com/decks/13839465/valgavoth_terror_is_nowterror_eater

could use help with removal of cards

[wooden breach]

This deck wants to be a bunch of different things and it isn't doing a lot of them well

You have Death Baron in there and only 8 creatures that care about having it around

You have fukn bear trap in there

[long oar]

this is the first deck I've ever built with cards I have gotten or opened, don't appreciate the hate at the end there

[wooden breach]

Bruh it's 4 mana to lightning bolt something it's not ideal

If you have valgavoth, unholy annex, and doomsday excruciator, I'm also assuming you've hopefully opened up way better removal than that

[long oar]

I asked for help. not your opinion

I'm sorry that I havent opened up much better than that>? like?

[wooden breach]

You asked for help with removing cards. I'm pointing out ones that aren't helping your deck out that much or aren't that effective