#Deck Brewing General

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shell plume
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card draw? Removal? Counters? anthems? Ramp?

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protection?

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what should my creature min be?

hexed dome
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I think you need boots

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Swiftfoot Boots and Lightning Greaves

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As for winning the game, your commander is going to do better if your opponents are playing a lot of large creatures. If that isn't happening you are going to have to be much more aggressive I think.

hexed dome
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Your Faeries goad their creatures, and those big creatures kill your other opponents.

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You could try to find room for Bloodletter of Aclazotz

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Would make your Faeries more lethal, fly, and help your goad plan

shell plume
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isnt it like 20-25

hexed dome
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Wound Reflection is a budget option

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More expensive, easier to cast, harder to remove

shell plume
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hmm not bad idea I have it in my dw deck

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anymore removal suggestion?

hexed dome
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I think you should be careful about removal. You want your opponents to have big scary creatures for you to goad. You really want to save your removal for creatures and permanents that are going to impact your gameplan without attacking you.

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I'd snag that new black enchantment removal spell

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Precious little of that in Dimir colors

shell plume
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ok

cunning sail
next pendant
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One I recently saw lately was 8 by 8, which is taking 8 designated groups of what you want (ramp, interaction, deck focus, etc.) and choosing 8 cards to put in those groups before combining it together with 36 lands

next pendant
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I can do my best!

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So when building a deck, you think of like general deck plans as well as what you wanna do with the deck, obviously

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Decks need interaction, ramp, card draw, etc. I can’t remember all 8 categories

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But you choose 8 cards for each category, meaning you end up with 64 cards, so you have a perfect fit for 36 lands

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I’ve also heard about Command Zone discussing how whatever you deck wants to do, have 30 of it

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Not always applicable but pretty good as well

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There’s a Tumblr page for it apparently

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But it involves identifying what kind of “packages” you want/need for your deck and commander

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So you need a pretty good idea of what you want the deck to achieve

keen eagle
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Could I get suggestions on 7 cuts

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i am down from my previous deck lol

next pendant
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Not sure about throne, oppo, death’s mortality, chaos wand, or citadel

keen eagle
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chaos wand has been cut ✂️

limpid anvil
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Anyone has any cool non-staple ways of discarding your reanimation targets?

I'm looking for one more card that does that for my Scarab god (UB) reanimator deck.

Thanks for any help

shell plume
keen eagle
rare escarpBOT
keen eagle
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I play shilgengar tbh so my examples are kinda funky

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[[angel of the ruins]] is a great reanim target

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hardy fulcrum
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Does anyone have a [[!Nashi, Searcher in the Dark]] deck for edh? He feels good in Brawl but 4 player could be rough

feral sapphire
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What be a good way to build [[phlage]] ? Or would it be better if hes in the 99 of say a [[Firesong and sun]] deck?

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prime iron
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Phlage isn't really an edh card, if you really want to run it it'd be better in firesong and sunspeaker imo

feral sapphire
tame robin
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Any card is an EDH card if you want it too.

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https://www.moxfield.com/decks/u5QFkW4I80mXFNOjFNOwEA
I am brewing Mishra, Claimed by Gix with Phyrexian Dragon Engine and Valgavoth wheels into storming with my opponent's decks.

Mishra is the support in command zone as when he flips he can "steal" lots of cards for Valgavoth and is dangerous enough so that Valgavoth might thrive.

Feedback and suggestions would be welcome.

blissful mantle
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If there's a lot of 1 mana cards that do a better job than 2 and 3 mana cards that I have in my deck; what should I do about that besides just replacing all the 2 and 3 mana cards with those 1 mana cards?

warm nova
blissful mantle
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like cards that mention other cards' mana cost?

warm nova
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Mhm!

blissful mantle
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i see

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yeah i should check that out

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im thinking of adding lots of cards that make stuff like clues/map/blood tokens

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so i can use the free mana on that

warm nova
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Transmutation Font feels like a good slot in too

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font?
Fountain?

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the Big Score card.

blissful mantle
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i think thats a bit expensive for what it does tho

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mana wise

warm nova
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It definitely is!

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But if you're running low to the ground, you may be able to make it work. (It's also just been on my mind since I keep seeing it in my collection while I brew other things)

blissful mantle
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id rather play something like hypnotic grifter

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since i can at least use that any number of times per turn

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im sure i can find other good mana sinks

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but thanks for the advice regardless!

tired forge
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i feel like [[goldspan dragon]] is a good alternitive to [[ancient coppper dragon]]

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tired forge
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sure its not the same tresure output, but that dont really matter

tawdry hatch
rare escarpBOT
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Creature — Human Wizard
Convoke (Your creatures can help cast this spell. Each creature you tap while casting this spell pays for mana1 or one mana of that creature's color.)
When Wildfire Awakener enters, create X 1/1 red Elemental creature tokens with "Whenever this creature becomes tapped, it deals 1 damage to target player."
3/2

naive prawn
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naive prawn
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As far as cards to remove, I might look to cut Darien as it feels too difficult to trigger their ability yourself.

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I'd also likely cut 1–2 of your five board wipes

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Unwanted Remake doesn't seem very effective when the 2/2 you're gifting them can handily trade with a large number of your creatures. It's much better in a deck that doesn't care about creatures at all

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Basilisk Collar seems like a winmore card as only the Siege Gang Lieutenant turly benefits from it

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Lastly, you seem to have a lot of ways to make combat less scary for Arabella like Norn, Reconiassance, and unblockable effects. These effects don't stack very well, so I might suggest keeping an eye on the frequency you draw these cards. My guess is that you could use something like [[Bothersome Quasit]] or other goad cards to achieve a similar effect with a higher potential.

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tired forge
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need some feedback

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like general feedback

limpid anvil
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I have a PL8 (wins turn 6-7) scarab god reanimator and I'm wondering whether to run [[oriq loremage]].

The reason to run is the followinf scenario:

-Turn 2 mana rock (the deck is built in a way for me to always have some ramp on turn two)
-Turn 3 Oriq
-Turn 4 My commander, endstep before my turn 5 - activate oriq for sphinx of the second sun (which will let me activate Oriq twice next turn)
-If I untap here, everything is great because from this point on, I will have interaction up

Oriq also seems good even later (play it after scarab god on turn 5 and activate it turn 6) given the interaction with sphinx of the second sun.

The only thing I'm not sure about is whether it would paint a giant target on my back - after playing oriq into scarab god (turn 3, 4) would the table just kill scarab god everytime before I have a chance to activate him?

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hazy spade
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So I’m currently running a commander deck with [[Admiral Brass, Unsinkable]]. The issue is that she just kinda.. sputters out after a single graveyard wipe. So my question is what kind of plan Bs, or secondary wincons, could go well in the pirate kindred?

rare escarpBOT
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Legendary Creature — Human Pirate
When Admiral Brass, Unsinkable enters, mill four cards.
At the beginning of combat on your turn, you may return target Pirate creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield with a finality counter on it. It has base power and toughness 4/4. It gains haste until end of turn. (If a creature with a finality counter on it would die, exile it instead.)
3/3

hazy spade
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devout radish
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Just finished off a preliminary version of my newest Commander deck. Got a few cards in the mail and a couple others I would like to buy in the future for it. It's my second from scratch Commander deck I've made.

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Going to test it out tonight with my Commander group tonight

hardy fulcrum
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What are some unique boros commanders? I have Nelly Borca, Mabel (and Akiri), Feather, Jolly Balloon Man already but I can't get enough boros

feral sapphire
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Anyone know of a fun selesnya commander/partner's that isnt just OP? It's the one deck I have a hard time finding something that's fun. Suggestions ?

hexed dome
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Tokens and Voltron strategies are strong in selesnya

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If you stick to auras you don't have to become a complete degenerate enchantress deck

hexed dome
feral sapphire
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I tried a [[calix, guided]] deck by using the enduring Enchantments precon as a base but I was targeted instantly when playing it

rare escarpBOT
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Legendary Enchantment Creature — Human Druid
Constellation — Whenever Calix, Guided by Fate or another enchantment you control enters, put a +1/+1 counter on target creature.
Whenever Calix or an enchanted creature you control deals combat damage to a player, you may create a token that's a copy of a nonlegendary enchantment you control. Do this only once each turn.
2/2

hexed dome
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Yeah, enchantress decks have to be struck down hard and fast

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before everything gets double shroud

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[[Sythis, Harvest's Hand]] is the boogey-man of that archetype, I think

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hexed dome
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There's always cats

split mulch
cunning spoke
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Can anyone recomend some rakdos draw cards preferably that doesn’t take life away for the sake of i have no life gain in the deck

It’s an artifact fling deck with ayara at the helm

hexed dome
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Tall order

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Can I sell you on some impulse draw?

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There are also several options that substitute life loss with sacrificing permanents

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[[Deadly Dispute]]

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keen eagle
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and also limiting yourself to no life loss draw in black red is a pretty big mistake, youre overrating the impact of life loss

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its way more important to have 2 more cards in hand than that two life

cunning spoke
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Oh didn’t realize the front side gave me life too

keen eagle
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yeah but tbh

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I mean its not the worst thing to run mostly looting effects since you want stuff in yard

cunning spoke
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Yeah to unearth and recur them

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But thanks guess i’ll add phyrexian arena and one or two more of these then

keen eagle
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Id shoot for at least 8 draw bntw

cunning spoke
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Got it

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I’ll check later how much i have and then see i just know i got 106 cards already and like only 2-3 looting spells

keen eagle
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do keep in mind looting is typically card neutral

cunning spoke
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Yeah i’m not counting them is why i was asking

keen eagle
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so id count it more as card selection, but you could count it as like half or something

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ah yeah

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gotcha

cunning spoke
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Sure underworld breadh helps but my friends have recently learned the art of murder the none creature cards

torn mortar
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cunning spoke
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perfect timing was actually editting archidekt right now XD

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but yeah added village rite black market connection and phyrexian arena was gonna search for more now after cutting some stuff

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should probably add master of the vault since theres gonna be a lot of artifact saccing

torn mortar
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Corrupted conviction is just v rites again

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Not the biggest fan of phyrexian arena anymore. Used to be fantastic but I'm looking to outpace it a good bit these days. If you're okay with impulse draw, I suggest taking a look here and grabbing some of these ones.

cunning spoke
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thnks

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and more alternatives are always welcome

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maybe i could move my dark prophecy from my teysa deck to this one

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or proxy it

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wonder if t heres any way to restand ayara actually so i can fling more then once

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wait does her effect count as commander damage

torn mortar
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[[Umbral mantle]]

No, cmd damage is only combat damage unfortunately. But deathtouch and lifelink [[basilisk collar]] and infect [[glistening oil]] work outside of combat too.

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cunning spoke
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might consider that basilisk collar then

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glistening oil is out mainly cause of my pod

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i can use it i just don't wanna abuse it and become the archenemy

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would ruin grinder counts since it's always 7 cards drawn

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theres also imskir the iron eater but he's kinda costy

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[[imskir the iron-eater]]

rare escarpBOT
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Legendary Creature — Demon
Affinity for artifacts (This spell costs mana1 less to cast for each artifact you control.)
When Imskir Iron-Eater enters, you draw X cards and you lose X life, where X is half the number of artifacts you control, rounded down.
mana3manar, Sacrifice an artifact: Imskir deals damage equal to the sacrificed artifact's mana value to any target.
5/5

torn mortar
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If you're in an environment where an 8 mana spell can reasonably be expected to be able to be cast, let alone hit board we are in very different pods lol. Nothing wrong with that but worth acknowledging.

next pendant
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Is it just kinda treasure pings?

cunning spoke
torn mortar
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Basically. Though in my list, [[harnfel, horn]] and [[sensei's top]] go infinite artifact etb, ltb, and sacrifice triggers. So anything that can profit off those like [[Reckless fireweaver]] or [[nadier's nightblade]] will do the trick. Otherwise, hope for [[revel in riches]] and or [[marionette master]].

[[Marionette apprentice]] was a nice boon too

@next pendant

cunning spoke
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ironically normal ayara is in the chopping block

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and it hink underworld breach isn't even in the list

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9 removal should be plenty if i count the creature ones that i can spam if i sac and revive them

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17 artifacts i want to kill and or revive

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17 creatures

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might have to take out out of the tomb...

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oh i forgot their name is death is also a boardwipe

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literally back where i started at 106....

torn mortar
cunning spoke
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oh this deck reminded me i got erebos somewhere after he got cut from teysa

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thnks for the help

torn mortar
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How about [[ugin ineffable]] too?

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torn mortar
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Free rocks

cunning spoke
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that's a nice one but probably pass on ugin

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anyway good night imma go rest and look at the deck again another day, work on something i actually physically have like pumping up teysa's draw count(my last modification sadly didn't realize i left her with only 4 draw spells)

next pendant
torn mortar
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Hate theft actually. Keep your cards, I'd rather focus on my own and their synergy.

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But it's a valid play for sure

torn mortar
rare escarpBOT
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Legendary Planeswalker — Daretti
+2: Discard up to two cards, then draw that many cards.
−2: Sacrifice an artifact. If you do, return target artifact card from your graveyard to the battlefield.
−10: You get an emblem with "Whenever an artifact is put into your graveyard from the battlefield, return that card to the battlefield at the beginning of the next end step."
Daretti, Scrap Savant can be your commander.
Loyalty: 3

cunning spoke
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that one was one of my cuts

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didn't think i'd reach 10 loyalty

next pendant
torn mortar
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I have tuned my prosper to where cascade can even be predicted to a degree lol.

torn mortar
# cunning spoke that one was one of my cuts

Never look at a walker for an ult. Sac a token to bring back a 10 drop fling target. Then do it again. On cast of their number is legion will fuel a good number of daretti uses. Then he also helps keep your hand going too.

torn mortar
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And by discarding, you can grave a 10 drop, next turn sac a token, and reanimate the 10 drop, and never had to cast it.

torn mortar
next pendant
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I mean I get it, but it feels kinda fun to not have any idea what’s coming up

torn mortar
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Sure, I never know for sure. But I can make a solid guess and plan for each eventuality.

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There's a reason I'm a blue mage at heart lol. Even rakdos doesn't have to be pure chaos.

next pendant
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Pure chaos fun 🙂‍↕️

torn mortar
cunning spoke
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gonna take out iconoclast for him since i already got lots of sac outlets

keen eagle
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I have a bunch of deathtouch pieces from fynn, yall think [[aveline de gran]] seems cool

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cunning spoke
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god that feels so dirty especially if you use it with that one land that can make flynn unblockable

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tho idk if it will count since flynn puts poison counters instead of combat damage right?

keen eagle
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[[fynn the fang]]

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keen eagle
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yup you get both lol

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hes good in the 99 to say the least tho

cunning spoke
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damn

cunning spoke
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Think i finally got ayara in a place i’m satisfied, now i just gotta get goblin welder and engineer y-y

torn mortar
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Nice

tribal matrix
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https://www.archidekt.com/decks/9314883/dune_theme_deck

Trying to brew a dune themed deck and wondering if there's any good draw options in naya that work with this or if anyone has any recommendations.

I also think the deck should have some land sacrifice but dunno what would work best or be on theme

Archidekt

Hazezon, Shaper of Sand - Commander / EDH deck

(1) Commander • (8) Artifact • (18) Creature • (11) Enchantment • (10) Instant • (40) Land • (1) Planeswalker • (10) Sorcery

dull dock
# tribal matrix https://www.archidekt.com/decks/9314883/dune_theme_deck Trying to brew a dune t...

Looking through the list, there are a couple of options I would add personally. [[Defiler of Vigor]] works with the theme and seems like it would be a helpful add because of how many green pips you're working with. If you're looking for repeatable card draw, something like [[Kutzil, Malamet Exemplar]] is okay, but limited to once per turn. There are other one-off card bombs, [[Soul's Majesty]], [[Return of the Wildspeaker]] and [[Collective Unconscious]] just to name a few. If you can make big enough tokens or have enough anthems down, [[Garruk's Uprising]] could be strong but might need a bit more setup than the others. As for land sacrifice, it kind of depends on if you want effects more like [[Nahiri's Lithoforming]] or [[Akki Scrapchomper]]. If you want to be really hateful, [[Dust Bowl]] is also an option. Regardless, you will probably also want to be playing more landfall effects. I would recommend at least [[Lotus Cobra]] and [[Felidar Retreat]], but there are other options depending on how tightly you want to follow theme.

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Overall though, I really like the deck, and hope that it does you well!

wraith onyx
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Trying to make Slobad, Iron Goblin stax. Gameplan is simple: put stax artifacts on the field, the sac them with Slobby to cast a big spell after making the table groan 7 times. What are some stax artifacts I can use, and then feed to slobad for value?

tawdry hatch
tribal matrix
# dull dock Overall though, I really like the deck, and hope that it does you well!

Hey thanks for the tips! Been banging my head on this for a while. I played a lot of Standard when I was young so doing a theme deck instead of a wholly focused deck has been hard but I'm trying to lean into it with cards that match the story of dune. I came up with some fun stuff like the thunderhawk gunship like the thopters from their universe to carry my fremen to war etc etc haha

tribal matrix
dull dock
# tribal matrix What other landfall cards do you recommend? I'd be interested in some on theme c...

To be honest, I think that between adding Lotus Cobra and Felidar Retreat you probably have the biggest ones, along with the others in the list already. The only potential adds that I can find would be either [[Evolution Sage]] or [[Horn of Greed]]. A couple of bulk land replacement cards could be good to have though, stuff like the aforementioned [[Nahiri's Lithoforming]] or others like [[Scapeshift]] to just find the Deserts that you have in your deck. Since you had it sideboarded, I also feel inclined to mention that the deck will probably end up wanting to play [[Grasping Dunes]], just because of how consistent and reusable it is for Hazezon.

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dull dock
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Another closer you could run would be [[Reshape the Earth]] if you find your games going long enough for it

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dull dock
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The one card I would personally include would still be [[Defiler of Vigor]], being both a Wurm and another Anthem-adjacent effect for making your tokens even bigger

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tribal matrix
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Thanks for the advice gonna look into slotting this stuff in!

tribal matrix
dull dock
tribal matrix
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I'll do that! Just nice to have a second set of eyes 🙂 thank you

next pendant
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Hazezon/Yuma can technically run MLD too, but that depends on how much you want your table to hate you

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Better in Yuma but still a Hazezon option

tribal matrix
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I know Paul is a genocidal fascist but doesn't mean I need to run my deck like him lol

next pendant
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LMAO

dull dock
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wooden breach
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I feel like [[doppelgang]] could really rock a lot of formats

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wooden breach
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I mashed together a Simic list for standard and it's been nuts when it goes off

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Kinda want to see how well it'd do in a non-rotating format

tribal matrix
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I think with Simic and temur where you make a lot of tokens it would be fine in commander but it's kind of a win more for us given how many token synergies we work with

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Like I'd have the mana to make it pop off in miirym but by then if I have 3-4 dragons I'm already the most dangerous board state

wooden breach
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I mean in commander where you have your token maker in the command zone this card is just win more

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But in 60 card you could copy [[acidic slime]] a bunch to wreck your opponent's mana and stuff

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wooden breach
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Copy [[aether channeler]] to make blockers or bounce creatures

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tribal matrix
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I'm toying with bello as a potential stax build. Thinking I want 10-12 stax pieces that are 4 mana and up that I then turn into 4/4 indestructible haste elementals to punch opponents with. Anyone have good ideas for cards that punish or slow down creatures? Any that are 4 cmc and up.

wooden breach
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[[An-zerrim ruins]] [[aether flash]] [[aether sting]]

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wooden breach
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[[Ascetisism]]

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wooden breach
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[[burning earth]] [[burning sands]]

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wooden breach
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Vehicles with busted effects get to swing the turn they come in

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[[nautiloid ship]]

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wooden breach
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[[feroz's ban]]

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wooden breach
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[[god pharoah statue]]

rare escarpBOT
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No card found for “god pharoah statue”

wooden breach
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[[god-pharoah's statue]]

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tribal matrix
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Thanks! And yeah I figured i might put a few good vehicles in too. Just thought it might be funny to beat people to death with aether flash lol

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The hard problem is do I focus on 4 and up for everything and have a bunch of mana stones and creatures to keep putting stuff out? Or do I keep the list to 10-12 big cost things so I don't end up flopping

wooden breach
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Honestly you might be able to pillow fort and run creature hate

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Your enchantments and artifacts are your creatures and only during your turn, so group slug stuff that wrecks creatures typically doesn't affect you

tribal matrix
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Yeah. And big board wipes on my turn won't hurt either as long as bello is indestructible

wooden breach
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Exactly

tribal matrix
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Kind of the theory I'm going for haha

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Maybe some tribal synergies

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Since they're all elementals

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So like pyrohemia

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[[Pyrohemia]]

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tribal matrix
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[[Spiteful banditry]]

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wooden breach
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[[caterwauling boggart]]

rare escarpBOT
tribal matrix
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Ooh nice

next pendant
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Bello actually has some really kinda cool combos

tribal matrix
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Yeah I like the concept

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I have a plan to run profs wildsear deck but also wanna do something with bello

torn mortar
torn mortar
tribal matrix
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Lol

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Yeah gonna deck tech him tonight with these suggestions

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Want to do a stax deck but not in stax colors

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So ppl don't whine.

keen eagle
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Could anyone recommend a deck that uses both KCI and Grinding ? Pulled em in my MB2 draft.

woven depot
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KCI and Grinding Station can go in any artifact deck. Pick your flavor, Urza, Joira, etc. and go ham.

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Any tips for a Xanathar deck? Not my usual playstyle, but I liked the recent Beholder themed Secret Lairs and have been pulling one together. I can share my decklist if anyone is interested in providing feedback on my approach.

sour plover
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I've got Double Vision + Underworld Dreams + Peer into the Abyss as an alternate win con, looking for another good copy card in rakdos to make it a triple knockout

Here's the deck list, I'm working with only cards I have which is mostly bulk and bunk rares from the mid 2010's on

keen eagle
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any suggestions on some fun ones? preferably in blue, I have a pile of blue goodstuff im not using rn

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would prefer not urza

next pendant
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Breya?

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She’s kinda notorious tho

keen eagle
next pendant
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Uh yeah lmao

keen eagle
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most of the suggestions and stuff I see on edhrec is high power shit lol

next pendant
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There’s an infinite combo with them afaik

keen eagle
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is there like

next pendant
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I can’t remember all the pieces hold on

keen eagle
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any way to make it at least bearable

next pendant
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Uhh don’t assemble the combo

keen eagle
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Hahahaha

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without sandbagging maybe?

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I was looking at lonis or emry maybe? but for all I know those are also degen I just havent seen them

next pendant
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A lot of the combos are colorless I think

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Or blue

keen eagle
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I guess its just an odd feeling to me, definitely dont play combo but I want to use the future sight cards lol

next pendant
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Yeah I get it

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They don’t have to be combo but I know it happens often

keen eagle
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Yeah if anything it seems hard to not accidentally make a combo

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I guess I could do more artifact recursion with like meteor golem? just use them as fuel

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i guess

maiden cedar
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I had a vision

[[Norin the Wary]]

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keen eagle
native sigil
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Hi? New to the format and about a year into mtg. So card knowledge is a bit low. I want to throw this idea out there and try to figure it out. In duskmourn there is a lot of clowns and dolls and I was thinking what about a creepy carnival idea. Not just jolly though I'm thinking it would be in mardu colors. I'm also thinking of those artifact creatures being a wincon some how. If anyone could point me in a direction it would be most appreciated. Thank you kindly.

bleak zephyr
willow schooner
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https://archidekt.com/decks/9504799/hyper_slap

Hey I was wondering if some of you guys could look over my deck list and if it’s even a good deck list and and what good changes I could make because I’m not a very good deck builder

Archidekt

Éowyn, Shieldmaiden - Commander / EDH deck

(1) Commander • (10) Anthem • (2) Copy • (1) Counters • (8) Draw • (1) Evasion • (2) Finisher • (35) Land • (1) Lifegain • (9) Protection • (1) Pump • (9) Ramp • (2) Recursion • (9) Removal • (1) Stax • (8) Tokens

feral sapphire
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Anyone know of good board wipes to run in a RW equipment deck? Should it be simple things like [[slash the ranks]] or [[single combat]] to keep the best creature/commander to try and deal with the players rather than loose everything or is there a secret board wipe im not aware of? And yes it's equipment not voltron so no auras. It's a go wide equipment deck if thay also helps

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verbal quartz
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Hey guys, I'm trying to decide between Grim Hireling & Professional Face Breaker for my Mr House deck - any thoughts?

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Leaning more towards Face Breaker for the lower cost and the top deck ability but I want to see another opinion

prime iron
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I have face breaker in my house and it does good work, the card advantage is really necessary in these colors

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You have really great removal in these colors already

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twin turret
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Hello all. I'm trying to build my first deck. Does it make sense to buy singles that end up costing more (as a whole) than the value of your commander? Or would experienced players recommend I start smaller and just save the valuable commander I have in mind for down the road? Thanks for your advice.

next pendant
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The only situation I can think of where the commander will cost more than the rest of the deck as a whole is maybe [[$Edgar Markov]]

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next pendant
twin turret
next pendant
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Oof

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It’s not a dumb question but uh

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Are you prepared to be the archenemy of every single game you play?

twin turret
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😂

next pendant
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Genuine statement

twin turret
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Fair enough! I like a challenge

next pendant
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You will probably be knocked out of the game first as often as possible

twin turret
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I pulled Sheoldred from a set booster and I figured I might as well make a deck out of it

next pendant
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Damn nice pull

twin turret
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Thank you! Beginner's luck definitely 😂

next pendant
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If you want to build with her, I would personally recommend putting her in the 99

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Otherwise sell her and make a deck from that cash

twin turret
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Okay that's a good idea.

next pendant
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If you’re truly set on her being the commander, go for it, just be prepared lmao

twin turret
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Lmao thanks for the tip. If she wasn't the commander, is there a better one in mind?

next pendant
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Well, do you wanna be evil?

twin turret
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Might as well since I'd rather not sell Sheoldred 😂 I've gotten kinda sentimental about it being such a good pull out of my first few packs ever in MtG

next pendant
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[[!Nekusar the Mind]] or [[!Tallion the Kindly]]

twin turret
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Brilliant.

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How long have you played the game?

next pendant
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Also probably [[!Krrik Son of]]

next pendant
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Ahhh, I’ve played commander exclusively about 3 years, been playing the game as a whole on and off for about 9 years or so

twin turret
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Well I appreciate you taking the time to share some of your wisdom with a beginner

next pendant
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No problem! Everyone starts somewhere

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Building her as the commander still isn’t the worst idea in the world

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But she will be hated

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It’s up to you, it’ll just decide how your game plays lmao

twin turret
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I'm toying with at least having the deck ready to go 😂 maybe I'll stick with a precon until I really get the hang of it. I've still yet to visit my LGS for an actual game of Commander, I've been playing kitchen table with family for a few months

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I do very much enjoy the freedom and creativity in building your own deck, I love how there's a seemingly endless combination of cards to make decks out of.

wooden breach
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K

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Manifest dread actually goes kinda crazy with the flicker effects from bloomburrow

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I just built a prototype sultai deck to test out in arena and I managed to get a ghalta stampede trigger on turn 3

hardy fulcrum
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[[!Nashi, searcher in the dark]] how does Nashi win?

gusty hornet
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Anyone got any ideas for a white and/or colorless sacrifice payoff? Looking to make a [[!Kataki]] sacrifice deck

gusty hornet
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Some of the newer Eldrazi support could work, but I’m curious about other ideas

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The only big one right now is [[! mycosynth lattice]] but that’s less of a sacrifice payoff and more of an outlet

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wooden breach
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[[aetherworks marvel]]

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wooden breach
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[[martyr's bond]]

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wooden breach
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You could run artifact combos with [[scrap trawler]] too

rare escarpBOT
wooden breach
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Run a shuffle titan so that you don't mill yourself out and then when you want to blow out the table hit 'em with a [[rise of the dark realms]] with a full graveyard

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prime iron
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Ashnod eggs

prime iron
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2 cuts Needed please

sand oracle
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How crazy would it be to play 6 [[Zhalfirin Void]] in a colorless commander deck?

  • Conduit Pylons: ETB surveil 1. {t}: add {c}. Some other text that 100% doesn't matter.
  • Crystal Grotto: ETB scry 1. {t}: add {c}. Some other text that 100% doesn't matter.
  • Gallifrey Council Chamber: ETB surveil 1. {t}: add {c}. Some other text that 100% doesn't matter.
  • Hidden Grotto: ETB surveil 1. {t}: add {c}. Some other text that 100% doesn't matter.
  • The Grey Havens: ETB scry 1. {t}: add {c}. Some other text that 100% doesn't matter.
  • Zhalfirin Void: etc...
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feral sapphire
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Anyone gone up against or brewed up a [[Herigast]] deck?

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wooden breach
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Feels like it would be nuts with affinity pieces

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[[myr enforcer]] comes in for free and covers 7 mana for a big eldrazi you want to cheat out

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grizzled bloom
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Idk why, but I want to make a budget restricted [[Tor Wauki, the Younger]] deck. Either budget or pauper edh

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grizzled bloom
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Any ideas on how?

wooden breach
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You could go ham with a bunch of cheap instants and sorceries that deal damage and then run something like [[thermo alchemist]]

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wooden breach
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[[end the festivities]] 2 damage to the table, 2 damage from Tor Wauki, then 2 more damage to the table with Alchemist

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wooden breach
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Anyone had the chance to try the theros titans with [[abhorrent oculus]]

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wooden breach
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Bypassing escape with manifest dread + very cheap mana costs to flip over stuff like [[kroxa titan of death]]

rare escarpBOT
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Legendary Creature — Elder Giant
When Kroxa enters, sacrifice it unless it escaped.
Whenever Kroxa enters or attacks, each opponent discards a card, then each opponent who didn't discard a nonland card this way loses 3 life.
Escape—manabmanabmanarmanar, Exile five other cards from your graveyard. (You may cast this card from your graveyard for its escape cost.)
6/6

wooden breach
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That's gotta be something

tired forge
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the titans are etbs

wooden breach
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Ah but they're not entering as titans

tired forge
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ah

wooden breach
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They're entering as the manifest creatures

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Flipping them to the creature side doesn't trigger ETBs

tired forge
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that means you dont get the etb trigger

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the discard

wooden breach
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More importantly, the sacrifice

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No escape needed to keep kroxa in play

tired forge
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thats not as important i would say. the escape seems easy

wooden breach
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Maybe, but if you're already exiling cards to cast the Oculus you might run out of cards to escape with

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You'd have to balance using them to cast Eye when you can't cheat it in and using them to escape titans

quaint brook
wooden breach
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Myth Realized ain't that great

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A lot of the keyword buffs that Heroic creatures give can be negated by just casting the keyword buff on Zada

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So Anax and Cymede can go

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Thermo Alchemist

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Definitely Spellbook since that doesn't really do anything

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Reckless Rage kills most of your creature base so I don't recommend that

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That's 5 so far

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You have wayyyyy too many instants that mostly do the same thing

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You have lots and lots of protect spells but other than storming off with Zada and Storm Kiln I don't really see a way to close out the game

drifting falcon
wooden breach
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@quaint brook I'd recommend those permanent cuts plus cutting out most of the instants that either don't draw cards or do a small temporary effect

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That plus Invasion of Karsus since that also kills most if not all of your creatures too

wooden breach
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If you have any of the bounce effects from BLM like [[splash portal]] I highly recommend them

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wooden breach
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If you have any big creatures you want to cheat out, that's the way to do it

drifting falcon
wooden breach
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I build a manifest deck on Arena and have more than once put a [[ghalta stampede tyrant]] into play on turn 3

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wooden breach
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Those plus anything from MKM that lets you flip creatures for cheap would be great

drifting falcon
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Between [[overgrown zealot]] or [[Tunnel Tipster]] which 1 should i use?

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wooden breach
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As for Delirium, that's really dependant on having permanents with multiple permanent types, like Artifact Land or Enchantment creature, so [[Balustrade Wurm]] doesn't really have a lot of room to shine

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wooden breach
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Plus if you put a single +1/+1 counter on it it becomes immune to [[cut down]] which you see in pretty much every black deck in standard

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drifting falcon
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I also want to try using Valgavoth's Onslaught

wooden breach
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Oh no I know. I wasn't suggesting adding Ghalta I was bringing up what flickering can do if you add some big mana cost creatures in this

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If you're willing to splash a little red, [[Yarus roar of the old gods]] shouldn't be that expensive and goes kinda crazy with disguise and manifest

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Legendary Creature — Centaur Druid
Other creatures you control have haste.
Whenever one or more face-down creatures you control deal combat damage to a player, draw a card.
Whenever a face-down creature you control dies, return it to the battlefield face down under its owner's control if it's a permanent card, then turn it face up.
4/4

wooden breach
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"return it to the battlefield face down if its a permanent card, then turn it face up"

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Which means [[bubble smuggler]] gets its counters for free

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drifting falcon
wooden breach
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Definitely Vannifar

drifting falcon
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i was planning 4 Yarus but i'll settle for 2 atm

wooden breach
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Sounds good! you got removal and good pieces for card and mana advantage

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Just those changes and you'll be good to go

drifting falcon
wooden breach
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The Wurms and 2 of the [[defiant survivors]]

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Creature — Human Survivor
Survival — At the beginning of your second main phase, if Defiant Survivor is tapped, manifest dread. (Look at the top two cards of your library. Put one onto the battlefield face down as a 2/2 creature and the other into your graveyard. Turn it face up any time for its mana cost if it's a creature card.)
"The dark should be scared of me!"
3/2

wooden breach
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Outside of Clobbering, you don't have a way to safely tap the survivor to get the manifest trigger, plus it's vulnerable to all of the common removal you see in standard

drifting falcon
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Should i go 4 [[Overgrown Zealot]]? rather than 3?

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wooden breach
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Depends on how much cheating you're hoping to do

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If you're wanting to pay the flip cost, then an extra one will help that. Otherwise 3 is fine

drifting falcon
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and also the [[Splash Portal]] Idea is very fun if ever i get much bigger creatures. Does my deck need the splash portal at its current state or nah?

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drifting falcon
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I'll be getting al least 4 copies of it for future deck improvements. I really like the Dread ability and looking for more ways to create decks with Dread and Disguise as its main focus.

wooden breach
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wooden breach
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Once you have some big bois you wanna cheat out, that's when you flicker them with splash portal

drifting falcon
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Do you know any alternatives for "Into the Flood Maw"?

wooden breach
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If that's the case, [[Rona's Vortex]] is still standard legal and gives the same effect you need

rare escarpBOT
wooden breach
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Anything that specifically bounces instead of kills

drifting falcon
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How do you feel about [[Cryptic Coat]]?

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wooden breach
wooden breach
drifting falcon
wooden breach
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Plus another fun fact: as long as the face down creature is a permanent card, flickering it still gives you enters effects

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Flickering a face down coat gives you extra card advantage off the top of your library AND an unblockable 3/2 with ward 2

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If not in your main board, i'd say it's definitely worth having a few in your side board

drifting falcon
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What happens if I used Splash Portal on the Cryptic Coat equipped permanent does it get removed or just on the board and i need to pay the 2 mana to put it back in hand

wooden breach
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The 2nd one

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When an equipped creature gets flickered, Equipment falls to the side and Auras go to the graveyard

hardy fulcrum
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Who are yalls favorite Sultai commanders

wooden breach
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[[yarok the desecrated]]

rare escarpBOT
wooden breach
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Why do the cool thing only once

quaint brook
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For Feather clipping I mean

wooden breach
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Both diamonds, and Scroll of Masters can go. Spellslinging means you want to spend mana on, well, spells, so anything that isn't spells has to have a massive payoff, especially with Scroll asking for 3 mana

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That's 3 [[swords to plowshares]] you miss out on casting

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quaint brook
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Gotcha, got rid of em all now

wooden breach
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Other than that now, I think anything that isn't an instant is fine. It's just really cutting down your instants at this point, since 48 is a loooot

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Go for cuts that are redundant just for the sake of being redundant

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For example, [[god's willing]] vs [[angelic intervention]]

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Instant
Target creature or planeswalker you control gains protection from colorless or from the color of your choice until end of turn. If it's a creature, put a +1/+1 counter on it. (It can't be blocked, targeted, dealt damage, enchanted, or equipped by anything with that quality.)
Elspeth shone like a sixth sun, inspiring hope in the Mirrans and terror in New Phyrexia.

wooden breach
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God's willing is 1 mana less PLUS if you target Zada you get to filter your cards with a bunch of scry triggers, instead of getting a +1/+1 counter. You don't have any walkers so half of what Intervention can do isn't even relevant

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Permanent power buffs in a deck like this are kinda detrimental too, since the bigger your creatures get, the bigger you get impacted by your own [[slaughter the strong]]

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quaint brook
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Oh makes sense, could I replace the Slaughter with something better? Or is Slaughter a better wipe

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Like a Blasphemous Act or something?

wooden breach
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Well your biggest power is 3 right

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If only there was a board wipe that let you pick that

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Oh wait yea there is [[expell the interlopers]]

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quaint brook
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Usually if I don't use counters then yea

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OMG I FORGOT ABOUT THAT

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I picked some up recently too

wooden breach
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Doesn't get around indestructible but that's not really why we run boardwipes

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Plus you're in white so it's not like exiling is out of the question

wooden breach
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They'll hit you with it even if you only have a 1/1 on the board

quaint brook
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Oh that's fucked lol

wooden breach
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Such is the life of control

quaint brook
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I guess I been lucky I haven't run into that on Arena at all

wooden breach
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Counter people's spells
If you can't counter, remove it
If you can't counter or remove, well there's always next game

outer pine
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[[fell the mighty]] as well

rare escarpBOT
wooden breach
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Yaw

quaint brook
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Yeah I considered this one but it's pricy for a wipe no?

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Well I guess just by 1

outer pine
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Mana or money? Same cmc as expel

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3 two white vs 4 one white

quaint brook
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Oh LOL I didn't see the second white pip my bad

outer pine
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If anything it’s less restrictive for non mono white decks

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You also have very few cards with cmc >=4 so [[austere command]] would miss most of your board while also clearing pesky enchantments/artifacts for one more white

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outer pine
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the [[farewell]] at home card

rare escarpBOT
outer pine
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I use austere and fell to great effect in my shorikai deck

quaint brook
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Huh true, I dunno if I have a spare Austere or not atm if I do I'll get it

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Any other suggestions?

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For cuts I mean

quaint brook
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Are card draw cantrips that much more important?

west fjord
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Anyone good at probabilities? Trying to figure out the odds of drawing one of each of 2 types of card in my 99 card deck. I have 8 cards that produce 1 affect and 7 that produce the other and ideally I'd like to have one of each in an opening hand (and I'm wondering how aggressively I should Mulligan for it).

quaint brook
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I just need to cut 8 more now

quaint brook
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Last stretch need help plssss

modest moss
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New to the server, is it generally easier to get eyes on your deck by posting here or making a thread for it?

tribal matrix
drifting falcon
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drifting falcon
outer pine
modest moss
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currently tinkering with the clue subtheme, trying to reinforce the energy subtheme (if possible) to justify Primal Prayer, and see about adding more Planeswalker support, but the list is overall pretty tight since every card is designed to work both on its own as well as synergize with as much of the deck as possible

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the main supported themes already present are a counters and lands themes, and the supported subthemes are reanimator, tokens, artifact/land animation, and a teensy bit of theft

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sounds like a lot, but it all works together surprisingly well, especially considering my aversion to generic tutors (thus my inclusion of cards like perplex)

opaque iris
keen eagle
fallen hawk
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i dunno this is kinda pissing me off at this point cause I feel like I've tried most of the ways to build the deck/speed it up but I can't figure out how to make camellia work

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I've tried running squirrels, food/aristrocrats, straight food, idk

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it feels like i get to turn 4 and i have camellia and a squirrel token and maybe another creature out

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idk im lost, the commander is very interesting and I love the art but at this rate im just gonna switch to hazel/chatterfang

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would love any tips/ideas/etc

opaque iris
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[[Camellia]]

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opaque iris
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The commander is 3 cmc and you're casting the commander the turn you have enough mana to it. That means turn 3. You are giving yourself 2 turns of setup. That makes no sense when camellia likes a decent boardstate to be around

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If you set more of a board up and then spend the mana to cast camellia, it'll probably feel a whole lot better. It also lowers the risk of needing to cast her again since she could get removed before you get a ton of value out of her

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Like I have a Captain America deck that I'm brewing, right? He is a 3cmc commander to, but he likes to have a decent amount of equipment cards out so he can get buffed up. That means I need to wait until after turn 3 to cast him

fallen hawk
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I guess I'm just having trouble balancing on the tightrope that she has me on with building her

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if im being honest, making 1 token for 1 food doesnt feel the best imo AA_Monika_Shrug idk

proper fiber
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I think you primarily want to build Camellia as a straight up food commander. Your gameplan revolves around making food to trigger food payoffs, and she's just one of them. One which you can use later to weaponize foods by turning them into cretaures and buffing them.

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By trying to focus on both squirrels and food, You will inevitably take away space for one of those archetypes.

modest moss
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you explicity don't NEED to focus on squirrels when she's your commander, since she does it all for you, just make foods, start saccing them to KCI to generate the mana to sac them to her own ability

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run stuff like [[!into the pit]] for card advantage, the forage mechanics, etc

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modest moss
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sac it, and they will come

velvet talon
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guys look at my post

burnt brook
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So, I just built and sleeved my first commander deck that isn't a pre-con or net deck. Any suggestions to my current deck?
Getting it ready for the convention in Vegas this weekend.

https://archidekt.com/decks/8945884/mom_etb_control

Archidekt

Elesh Norn, Mother of Machines - Commander / EDH deck

(1) Commander • (3) Anthem • (1) Copy • (1) Counters • (10) Draw • (2) Evasion • (38) Land • (2) Landfall • (1) Proliferate • (6) Protection • (10) Ramp • (1) Recursion • (14) Removal • (3) Stax • (7) Tokens

dry fable
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anyone wanna assit me with some deck building in discord?

north bear
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I need help making my Zur the enchanter deck

gusty hornet
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If you don’t know what to cut for that, I’d suggest some of your protection (as 14 is quite a bit), your stax, and maybe even sun titan

grizzled bloom
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How many good modal spells are there in Temur?

wooden breach
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A lot

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[[jeska's will]]

rare escarpBOT
wooden breach
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[[archdruid's charm]]

rare escarpBOT
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Instant
Choose one —
• Search your library for a creature or land card and reveal it. Put it onto the battlefield tapped if it's a land card. Otherwise, put it into your hand. Then shuffle.
• Put a +1/+1 counter on target creature you control. It deals damage equal to its power to target creature you don't control.
• Exile target artifact or enchantment.

wooden breach
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[[tooth nail]]

rare escarpBOT
wooden breach
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There's the season cards from bloomburrow

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[[season of the bold]]

rare escarpBOT
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Sorcery
Choose up to five manap worth of modes. You may choose the same mode more than once.
manap — Create a tapped Treasure token.
manapmanap — Exile the top two cards of your library. Until the end of your next turn, you may play them.
manapmanapmanap — Until the end of your next turn, whenever you cast a spell, Season of the Bold deals 2 damage to up to one target creature.

spring fiber
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Temur is manaR manaG manaU right?

next pendant
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Commanders such as [[!Flubs]] and [[!Loot]]

rare escarpBOT
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Multiple cards match “Loot”, can you be more specific?

next pendant
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Whatever

twin turret
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😂

sage tartan
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https://archidekt.com/decks/9761167/avengers_arti

Need 9 cuts, trying to build a deck for cap and iron man by recycling together 2 decks. I want to throw Excalibur at people. I was thinking of cutting approach of the second sun, etali, and eaten by skeletons since they are a bit less focused and more just goodstuff.

I'm not a very experienced deck builder. I feel like most of my equips are too low MV for what cap wants to do but most of my good equip cards are low MV

cunning sail
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I'm trying to make a commander deck with red color and decided on making a goad themed deck. (never used red before because I just don't like them but I want to give it a try)

Between these commander & pairings:

  1. Marisi, breaker of the coil
  2. Bjorna - Elmar/Wernog
  3. Firkraag, cunning instigator
  4. Baeloth barrityl entertainer - Noble heritage

Which one is the best? my pod is usually around the PL7 - 8

sage tartan
rare escarpBOT
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Legendary Creature — Time Lord Scientist
Whenever The Rani enters or attacks, create a red Aura enchantment token named Mark of the Rani attached to another target creature. That token has enchant creature and "Enchanted creature gets +2/+2 and is goaded."
Whenever a goaded creature deals combat damage to one of your opponents, investigate.
3/4

sage tartan
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My rani deck started as firkrag but I find him to be a bit better in the 99 and I wanted access to black

cunning sail
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Ooh i see, I didn't know this commander, I'll check it out

sage tartan
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You can put her enchantments on your own creature for the +2 if there is no good goad targets or it's later in the game and you don't want to buff your opponents anymore

sage tartan
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I wish they included a better card than in the trenches. I wanna cut it but it's gotta stay for the cap art

solid pecan
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slim raft
deep dune
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deep dune
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it doesn't goad your opponents like marisi can, but it encourages your opponents to attack each other rather than you, and any auras that you might lose can be easily recast. ive seen it play and its super resilient to removal, plus it could be fun politicing to give your opponents auras like all that glitters to further encourage them to attack each other

devout radish
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Currently working on finding cards to for recursion on Enchantments in Izzet. So far these are the only ones worth looking into as the others force me to put them on my creatures but I'm trying to recur my Goad Auras

opaque iris
wooden breach
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I have an idea

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And it's so crazy

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It just might work

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Rakdos Discard with the pay-off being casting [[demigod of revenge]] with the other 3 copies in the yard

rare escarpBOT
devout radish
# opaque iris this deck never feels like it goes anywhere. Just wondering if anyone could give...

Couple of suggestions:

Silverquill Lecturer --> Metastatic Evangel

Muldrifter --> Literally any other Blue Draw spell.

Thrashing Brontodon, Cankerbloom, Beast Within ---> Any Instant, Sorcery, or ETB. (Viridian Shaman, Viridian Corruptor, Reclamation Sage, Pick Your Poison, Over the Edge, Broken Wings, etc)

Add Essense Warden for passive life gain on creature ETB

Deck needs more flicker. You have a billion ETBs and no way to repeat them beyond your commander Recommend adding Flickerwisp, Felidar Guardian, or Deadeye Navigator (Ordered Cheapest to most Expensive)

You lack any sort of Recursion. Given the +1/+1 Count sub theme I recommend Evolution Witness.

Your ramp could use work as well. Cultivate, Kodama's Reach, Abundant Hatvest, Adventure Awaits.

Cards like Masked Admirers would work with your sac outlets as recurable draw.

Hunter's Talent let's you draw on end step when you control a 4 or greater.

Samwise Gamgee for more Food Tokens and Recursion.

Your lands could use work as well. Some of your tap lands would be better replaced with either Scry Lands, Bounce Lands or even just basics.

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I also don't really see a Wincon beyond hopefully nuking the field and attacking with a whole bunch of Tokens. Cards like Gnarlid Colony and Brawn will give your creatures trample and make for a more threatening board

opaque iris
devout radish
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Because that's 2 cards in a deck of 100

opaque iris
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lmao

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and saying "its just 1 card in a deck of 100" applies to literally every card in a deck

devout radish
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Its a good combo but given the excess of a bunch of ETBs and golem I would at the very least add in more ways to draw if you keep Mulldrifter

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Its a good combo but if you can't tutor it you are going to want to maximize it's availability through draw.

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Or some sort of Scry, like Adventure Awaits.

proper fiber
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consider running [[elemental bond]] as a draw engine. Your food golems will always enter as 3/3s with Brenard out. And the splicer golems are all 3/3s by default anyway

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opaque iris
devout radish
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Given how Cap works I would say the overall curve is pretty decent. Good lands coverage and everything for the the most part is pretty cheap cast.

opaque iris
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Ty I really appreciate it

sage horizon
rare escarpBOT
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Sorcery
Target creature you control deals damage equal to its power to target creature or planeswalker you don't control.
"Don't be a superstitious coward. What's a tree going to do, slowly fall on us?" —Sebastian the Logger

Burnwillow Clearing
Land
Burnwillow Clearing enters tapped.
manat: Add manar or manag.
The loggers never questioned why the last crew had abandoned camp.

drifting falcon
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Good morning/noon/afternoon/evening wherever you are! I need help with my deck that I'm currently building for STANDARD format in Paper. Give me your suggestions of which card to add or to put into the sideboard. I am a college student so I'm more leaning towards being budget but willing to spend when needed. The cards in the mainboard are what I'm currently using. Please Check the considering board those are cards that I currently want to get but don't have give me your thoughts

My DECK:https://www.moxfield.com/decks/VYYLX04VGEeM7P9qhZ8p1A

lime yoke
wooden breach
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So I just found out that you can target yourself with [[surgical extraction]]

rare escarpBOT
wooden breach
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And I also found out that [[slime against humanity]] also counts the amount of cards you have in exile

rare escarpBOT
wooden breach
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And now I wanna put those two things together

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Omfg I just had a thought

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[[ashiok wicked manipulator]]

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Legendary Planeswalker — Ashiok
If you would pay life while your library has at least that many cards in it, exile that many cards from the top of your library instead.
+1: Look at the top two cards of your library. Exile one of them and put the other into your hand.
−2: Create two 1/1 black Nightmare creature tokens with "At the beginning of combat on your turn, if a card was put into exile this turn, put a +1/+1 counter on this creature."
−7: Target player exiles the top X cards of their library, where X is the total mana value of cards you own in exile.
Loyalty: 5

wooden breach
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Step 1: Exile 20 slimes

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Step 2: Target players exiles 60 cards

opaque iris
opaque iris
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iron stump
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Hi, I'm currently building [[Alania, Divergent Storm]] as a spellslinger, utilizing on enchantments like Aria of Fire and Fiery Emancipation to burn as much as I could. I notice that my early game can be very slow but I'm not so sure on how to fix that issue. More lands + Mana rocks?

I think Haughty Dijnn and Talrand could be removed (as a way to deal with flying creatures or to poke) but I'm not so sure.

rare escarpBOT
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Legendary Creature — Otter Wizard
Whenever you cast a spell, if it's the first instant spell, the first sorcery spell, or the first Otter spell other than Alania you've cast this turn, you may have target opponent draw a card. If you do, copy that spell. You may choose new targets for the copy.
"Why would I chase the storm? Does a cloud chase the rain? Does the sun chase the light?"
3/5

iron stump
maiden cedar
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What if you shove every currently legal card with a "Win the game" gimmick into a single commander deck? 🤔

wooden breach
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Have it be only ETB effects that win the game and run [[yarok the desecrated]]

rare escarpBOT
wooden breach
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win the game twice

lime moth
# iron stump Hi, I'm currently building [[Alania, Divergent Storm]] as a spellslinger, utiliz...

With 13 creatures there's just a lot you could do to not make your board an inviting place to go to face.

Alania for me feels very KoS and with a very great effect and doesn't really reward building up the board but I don't think you necessarily need a mass amount of Instants/Sorceries to gain value off her the same way most Spell Slinging decks do so you could prioritize creatures more but it would require having to reconsider your Guttersnipe/Pinger package.

One thing, maybe it's not what you're going for is Alania easily enable Magecraft infinites with cards that Copy Target Spell which is great with Ral and Deekah

cunning sail
# sage tartan I love goad mu favorite deck is [[the rani]] and she can run red. Also consider...

Thanks again for your suggestion. Ever since then I tried researching more about rani and eventually loved her more than firkraag and the other goad commanders due to her versatility and playstyle.

I've finally made a deck although it's not complete yet https://www.moxfield.com/decks/Db17uY6nWkm2Od4iiVMo6Q

(the cards in sideboard are cards i wanted to use initially but couldn't find in my country because no one is selling it)

Tried it out on my LGS and it was a blast to play with, other ppl loves it as well as the goad comes with a buff which made it very political to use. snapCool

sage tartan
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Yeah some people welcome the goad as long as it buffs them so it can be pretty fun. I recommend saving board wipes and your best removal for late game if you can so you can get rid of the buffed creatures you made. It's by far my most played and tweaked deck

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Hot pursuit and mob rule are your best finishers imo

opaque iris
median herald
feral sapphire
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For a mardu angel commander. Instead of doing og kaalia or the core 21 kaalia, would marchesa be good?

wooden breach
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Marchesa doesn't really do anything for angels is the thing

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She gives you mardu but that's it

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[[shanid sleeper scourge]] gives you card advantage if your angels are legendary

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hardy fulcrum
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Does anyone have a [[kroxa and Kunoros]] decklist?

rare escarpBOT
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Legendary Creature — Elder Giant Dog
Vigilance, menace, lifelink
Whenever Kroxa and Kunoros enters or attacks, you may exile five cards from your graveyard. When you do, return target creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield.
When the Invasion Tree reached the Underworld, it found only teeth and fury.
6/6

viscid loom
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Hello! I'm new here so hopefully I'm posting this in the right place! If not then I apologize!

I made my first from scratch deck with [[Ygra, Eater of All]] as my commander. I'm pretty happy with it honestly, but I need to make some cuts for some new cards that I'm super excited about.

The new cards I'm wanting to add are:

[[Nine-Lives Familiar]]

[[Season of Gathering]]

[[Into the Pit]]

[[Vampire Gourmand]]

[[Deadly Brew]]

[[Rampage of the Clans]]

[[Plaguecrafter]]

Here's a link to the deck on Moxfield

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/5IsQgYDgw0ifZZ6Sh5afRg

Or do you think the cards I have are better than my new ideas? Season of Gathering, Nine Lives, and Into the Pit are definitely the ones I'm most excited to add.

I'm also wondering how to improve the mana base with less basic lands if anyone has any advice on that either.

Thank you for taking a look!

naive prawn
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The land count certainly feels high. 38 lands for a deck with a very average curve and plenty of ramp/guaranteed lands is a little high. I'd guess you could shave ~2 lands and still feel good about it, though I'd recommend doing a dozen or so playtest hands where you just play the first ~6 turns out to see how often you flood/stumble on lands.

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I will say that a few of your food specific cards seem underpowered or overcosted compared to the rest of your deck. Spider Food and Bake Into a Pie are two examples.

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Garruk's Uprising seems odd for a deck with so few 4 powered creatures. I understand the desire for trample, but this feels like a wildly inefficient way of getting it (same with Frantic Strength)

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Agent of the Ironthrone feels a bit extraneous to the gameplan. The deck isn't really making tons and tons of tokens that can easily be sacrificed to aristocrat the table out (the activation cost of food makes it hard to sacrifice a bunch at once).

viscid loom
# naive prawn fyi, the scryfall bot only works for messages with 5 or fewer cards in it

Oh, that's helpful to know, thank you!

And that's fair on the lands. I'm never sure if I should count mdfcs as full lands or not, especially when they end up entering tapped. But I could feel confident in cutting one and maybe 2 if I try out the play testing like you said. I struggle to be patient enough for that but I'll give it a go!

Maybe something like Tancor would be a better alternative to give Ygra trample or other similar aura type cards?

viscid loom
naive prawn
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If you learn the hotkeys on moxfield, you can play through the first several turns on like a minute or two. You don't need to do play test perfect optimal play. You're just testing to see how the land count feels

keen temple
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Hey folks. I’ve been wanting to make a deck that really showcases one of my favorite cards: [[Dream Trawler]] - right now I have it in a [[Raffine, Scheming Seer]] deck but I’m wondering if anyone else has any other suggestions? Drawing cards, flying, discarding for Hexproof, lifegain… I like the things WU creatures do!

rare escarpBOT
peak gazelle
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anyone have any ideas of any other equipment token cards like brass knuckles or bloodforged battleaxe?

stark prairie
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Mishra meld can run well with some bulk jank since he just needs lots of attackers right?

naive prawn
naive prawn
topaz lily
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Hi can anyone check out my deck "scales creatures" and let me know if there anything l can change?

Been losing alot lately against friends😅

wooden breach
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I took a look at it and gave some thoughts

floral anchor
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hey all

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i recently got a jace the mind sculptor and i was wondering what kind of deck it fits in best. this is in commander. Im thinking it fits a stella lee deck but im not entirely sure

wooden breach
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[[jace mind sculptor]]

rare escarpBOT
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Legendary Planeswalker — Jace
+2: Look at the top card of target player's library. You may put that card on the bottom of that player's library.
0: Draw three cards, then put two cards from your hand on top of your library in any order.
−1: Return target creature to its owner's hand.
−12: Exile all cards from target player's library, then that player shuffles their hand into their library.
Loyalty: 3

wooden breach
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You get a free brainstorm on your turn, so anything that cares about drawing cards gets to pop off

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[[niv mizzet parun]]

rare escarpBOT
wooden breach
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[[locust god]]

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hardy fulcrum
spark ermine
slim raft
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[[Illusionist's Bracers]] accelerates Krenko like crazy.

rare escarpBOT
gusty hornet
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[[Battlemage’s Bracers]] are also an option, albeit a slightly worse one

rare escarpBOT
gusty hornet
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Or even [[rings of brighthearth]]

rare escarpBOT
gusty hornet
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That one goes infinite with [[basalt monolith]] too if you need infinite mana for whatever reason

rare escarpBOT
wooden breach
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[[marvin murderous]]

rare escarpBOT
wooden breach
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Activate Krenko the moment he comes out without even needing haste

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Also, since Krenko's one of those well known commanders that can be prone to blue tomfoolery, a little [[pyroblast]] or [[red elemental blast]] couldn't hurt

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twin flame
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twin flame
deep dune
twin flame
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IT LOOKS COOL BU TLIKE, EH?

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caps

deep dune
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My other suggestion was going to be essence channeler

twin flame
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word. thanks zeke, Ill keep that in mind!

lofty karma
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is 32 fight spells too many in one deck?

normal kernel
twin flame
dull dock
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Does anyone know the use case of the third ability of [[Trostani Discordant]]? Yes Man and Hithlain Rope work, but most of the other similar gift effects are in red.

rare escarpBOT
dull dock
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As far as I've seen, it's mostly just there for anti-theft and such.

subtle basin
lofty karma
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lofty karma
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[[wolverine, the best ]]

rare escarpBOT
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Legendary Creature — Mutant Berserker Hero
Unrivaled Lethality — Double all damage Wolverine would deal.
At the beginning of each end step, if Wolverine dealt damage to another creature this turn, put a +1/+1 counter on him.
mana1manag: Regenerate Wolverine. (The next time he would be destroyed this turn, instead tap him, remove him from combat, and heal all damage on him.)
2/2

subtle basin
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well do you have the rest of the deck as 38 lands and 10 protection and 20 ramp?

proper fiber
wooden breach
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I just had a stupid idea that just might work

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Gruul land ramp

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Cast [[brash taunter]] and hit it with [[ground assault]]

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split mulch
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need to make some cuts from the sideboard/main deck

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would love some suggestions/more ideas

normal kernel
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Does anyone have a budget [[jaxis troublemaker]] deck I can look at?

rare escarpBOT
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Legendary Creature — Human Warrior
manar, manat, Discard a card: Create a token that's a copy of another target creature you control. It gains haste and "When this creature dies, draw a card." Sacrifice it at the beginning of the next end step. Activate only as a sorcery.
Blitz mana1manar (If you cast this spell for its blitz cost, it gains haste and "When this creature dies, draw a card." Sacrifice it at the beginning of the next end step.)
2/3

normal kernel
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Budget as in $100 or less

shell plume
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thought on this feather deck?

shell plume
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it's copy enchantment deck

naive prawn
naive prawn
# shell plume thought on this feather deck?

I would guess you want to cut ~4 creatures for a few more auras. Personally, I'd really recommend adding [[dragon mantle]] [[rune of speed]] [[rune of sustenance]] and [[radiant perfomer]]. The Performer in particular is busted powerful in this kind of aura copy deck and should 1000% be included (if you aren't aware because it's a really obtuse rules interaction, auras target a single target on cast, so the Performer can "radiate" a copy to all possible targets. When paired with one of the aforementioned runes, that means you draw a card for every permanent on the field, including opponents' stuff. It's bonkers fun).

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naive prawn
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Oh wait, I just noticed you also have 40 lands, which is likely ~3 too many for this kind of midrange deck

shell plume
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Ok thanks

wooden breach
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How do you figure out the amount of a card you need in 60 card decks

proper fiber
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I think for most cards, especially ones that are crucial for you gameplan or you want to be able to play multiple times, you're gonna want to run 4 copies, to maximize your chances of drawing it.
There's some instances where you may want to run less that 4.
I don't know if there are any steadfast rules for when to run less than 4 copies of a card. That's pretty situational depending on the deck. Generally, you might not want to run 4 of-s for your curve toppers or finishers, the idea being that you only need to play those once to finish the gane. Same with cards which might end up being dead in your hand if you already have another copy of it on the board. (For example legendary cards or cards with non-stacking static effects, unless getting that effect out is super crucial for you.

opaque iris
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I might try to make a One Piece themed deck with [[master of keys]] as Tot Musica commanding the deck

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Legendary Enchantment Creature — Horror
Flying
When The Master of Keys enters, put X +1/+1 counters on it and mill twice X cards.
Each enchantment card in your graveyard has escape. The escape cost is equal to the card's mana cost plus exile three other cards from your graveyard. (You may cast cards from your graveyard for their escape cost.)
3/3

quiet yarrow
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Hey could I get your opinion on some edits for my Ur-Dragon deck?

I am thinking of swapping Drannith & Zurgo/Ojutai for
Roaming Throne & maybe either terror of the peaks or Lathliss or maybe even Brainstealer Dragon

https://www.archidekt.com/decks/7311184/urdragon

I was also thinking maybe even Dragon Shadow or Magda

Archidekt

The Ur-Dragon - Commander / EDH deck

(1) Commander • (1) Anthem • (11) Draw • (15) Early Game Ramp • (1) Infect • (34) Land • (11) Late Game Ramp • (8) Protection • (1) Recursion • (11) Removal • (1) Stax • (3) Tokens • (2) Tutor

twin flame
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Looking to add T-Pro to my astarion deck [[Teferi's Protection]] - what would be a good replacement. https://www.moxfield.com/decks/x17_3XYgxk2CtORfPiW8pQ - thanks for the slight card cutting assistance!

For those curious - got it figured out.

Markov Purifier -> Teferi's Protection
Murder -> Dark Ritual
Lunar Convocation -> Smothering Tithe
Swamp -> Cabal's Coffers
Plains - > Wasteland

rare escarpBOT
twin flame
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Oh, and [[Smothering Tithe]]. Yes, I want to be this player.

rare escarpBOT
twin flame
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Two Last Cards to add. Sorry - [[Dark Ritual]] , [[Cabal Coffers]]

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normal kernel
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Would anyone care to see my budget Jaxis deck

spark ermine
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@quiet yarrow keep Zurgo and Ojutai, especially with roaming throne getting double triggers off them is great. Drannith and fist of suns seems kinda meh. Yeah fist is great with morophon out (who is good by themselves), but fist of suns by itself is kinda dead. Especially with mostly red/green dragons already discounted by eminence. I would look at Urzas incubator over fist. Solid list though.

sage horizon
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Turn 1:
Add Mountain.
Cast Mass Hysteria.

Turn 2:
Add Buried Ruin.
Cast Ruby Medallion.

Turn 3:
Add Mountain.

Cast Jeska’s Will.
6 floating Mountain.

Cast Goblin Lackey. 5 Floating Mountain.

Cast Krenko, Mob Boss.
2 Floating Mountain.

Activate Krenko, Mob Boss.
2 Goblin Tokens.

Cast Battle Hymn. 1 Floating Mountain.
Create 4 Floating Mountains.
5 Floating Mountains.

Cast Breath of Fury.
Enchant 1 Token Goblin.
2 Floating Mountain.

Tap last Mountain and 2 floating Mountain.

Cast Ashnod’s Altar. 0 Mountains.
0 cards in hand.

Combat phase:
Wave 1.
Lackey+2 Tokens= 3 damage.

Wave 2.
Lackey+4 Tokens= 5 damage.

Wave 3.
Lackey+8 Tokens= 9 damage.

Wave 4.
Lackey+16 Tokens= 17 damage.

Wave 5.
Lackey+32 Tokens= KO opponent 1.
26 damage to opponent 2.
Opponent 2 has 11 life.

Wave 6.
Lackey+64 Tokens= KO opponent 2 & 3.

wispy rock
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Not sure if this is the way it's done but can you send your deck list and people give you notes

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If yes I know my deck is kind of a mess but I just add a bit every set lol

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[COMMANDER]
1 O-Kagachi, Vengeful Kami

[PLANESWALKERS]
1 Oko, the Ringleader
1 Tasha, the Witch Queen

[CREATURES]
1 Aftermath Analyst
1 Angel of Indemnity
1 Codsworth, Handy Helper
1 Fallen Shinobi
1 Galadriel, Light of Valinor
1 Haughty Djinn
1 Inferno of the Star Mounts
1 Laughing Jasper Flint
1 Lily Bowen, Raging Grandma
1 Mysterious Stranger
1 Notion Thief
1 Olivia, Opulent Outlaw
1 Puresteel Paladin
1 Slickshot Show-Off
1 Tivit, Seller of Secrets
1 Vigor
1 Watchful Radstag

[ARTIFACTS]
1 Arcane Signet
1 Basilisk Collar
1 Behemoth Sledge
1 Champion's Helm
1 Esoteric Duplicator
1 Fireshrieker
1 Hedge Shredder
1 Legion Extruder
1 Lotus Ring
1 Pip-Boy 3000
1 Pre-War Formalwear
1 Silver Shroud Costume
1 Sol Ring
1 Swiftfoot Boots
1 Sword of Feast and Famine
1 Sword of Hearth and Home

[INSTANTS]
1 Bottle-Cap Blast
1 Chaos Warp
1 Counterspell
1 Dawn's Truce
1 Despark
1 Desynchronization
1 Ephemerate
1 Heroic Intervention
1 Memory Lapse
1 Path to Exile
1 Secure the Wastes
1 Swords to Plowshares

[SORCERIES]
1 Austere Command
1 Blasphemous Act
1 Crackle with Power
1 Cultivate
1 Pest Control
1 Rampant Growth

[ENCHANTMENTS]
1 Aggravated Assault
1 Almost Perfect
1 Bear Umbra
1 Black Market Connections
1 Branching Evolution
1 Hardened Scales
1 Idolized
1 Mantle of the Ancients
1 Rancor
1 Stolen Strategy
1 Strong Back
1 There and Back Again
1 Well Rested

[LANDS]
1 Blooming Marsh
1 Botanical Sanctum
1 Command Tower
1 Concealed Courtyard
1 Fiery Islet
5 Forest
1 Inspiring Vantage
2 Island
1 Mossfire Valley
5 Mountain
5 Plains
1 Reliquary Tower
1 Rootbound Crag
1 Spirebluff Canal
1 Sungrass Prairie
1 Sunpetal Grove
1 Sunscorched Divide
2 Swamp
1 War Room

copper moth
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Is this a good place to ask a general Deck question?

wooden breach
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ye

wooden breach
steady isle
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I'd like to keep it centered on the monoblack zombies theme and Liliana...other than that, I'm open to anything.

wooden breach
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If we want extra oomph to add on to things dying and creatures in the bin, throw in a couple of [[writhing necromass]]

rare escarpBOT
wooden breach
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You're built around Liliana, which your deck only allows you to play on turn 6, and that's if you're playing a land every single turn

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During those 6 turns you don't really have ways to slow down other people's plans or force them to answer a threat of yours. Cut down only goes so far, and the only other removal you have costs 3-4 mana

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[[virtue of persistence]] is great for removal since it gets around indestructible and it gives you life to keep you going

rare escarpBOT
wooden breach
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When you're playing a deck that wants to use a big spell like Liliana, the big thing you gotta focus on is getting to that point where you can cast it

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Each color does this in a different way, and mono black's build up of choice involves blowing up other people's things or gaining life here and there

steady isle
wooden breach
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A bit, yeah. You've got more things to do and more ways to stay in the game up until the big liliana turn, but it kinda feels like you're focusing on drawing the liliana since she has 4 copies and everything else is 2-3

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I highly recommend Prof's video on building decks (specifically this part on how many of each thing you want to run), and moving the amount of copies you have around from there https://youtu.be/kzE0Zuw3Bl8?t=703

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wispy rock
wooden breach
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You can copy paste the whole thing into moxfield

wispy rock
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Ended up changing 4 cards

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Okay

wooden breach
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So are you aiming for 5 color good stuff?

wispy rock
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I ended up really with a precon and kept opening packs and that's what i ended with

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Working on this a zombie deck but the zombie is w.e

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This one is a voltron deck . I have another 5 color deck that is focused on mult color but it most full of assassin's creed and junction so not the best lol

green kernel
eternal skiff
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wispy rock
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Also just opened a pack got paradise druid rite of the dragon caller but feel like it just clunk in my deck now lol

wispy rock
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Is 31 land risky for a commander deck

naive prawn
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Do you have a list to share? That would make it easier to evaluate if 31 lands is enough

wispy rock
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I dint have much lol

wispy rock
naive prawn
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At a glance, I can almost guarantee you need a few more lands. Likely shooting for ~36 in this type of deck. A really good way to check is to use Moxfield's playtest feature. You don't need to playtest a full game or anything, just play the first 6 or so turns only focusing on land drops/mana cards and see how much mana you have on turn 6. If you are consistently able to cast your commander by turn 6, you're probably doing fine.

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I usually playtest a dozen or so games this way to test my mana production (it helps to learn the hotkeys to be able to play through a game in a minute each or so)

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It also looks like you have a mismatch between color requirements and color production (moxfield shows you a summary of this if you scroll down)

wispy rock
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Hmm okay

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Thank youv

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Commander is not really a big thing in my deck lol just have him for colors and flying

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Any creature or token just make them scary i haven't had a problem with this deck when it was just white,green , red

naive prawn
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sure, it's more an excerise to recognize how often you're stumbling on lands/colors. You're just using the commander as a benchmark in this case.

wispy rock
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Got it

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My wife deck is more balance lol

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I tried making a zombie one still kind of iffy about and another multi color deck that's trash

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But it's my trash lol

naive prawn
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Best kind of trash tbh

wispy rock
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Kind of wanted the assassin's creed items but I can deal with two out and more mana with the place test I get 4 to 5 mana no problem buts it's like hmm I get mana screwed but when it's on god

naive prawn
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I mean sure, but it's a question of how many games of sitting there twiddling your thumbs while everyone else gets to have fun slinging spells are you willing to endure in order to have one game of fun yourself? Generally speaking, consistency is king

wispy rock
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True idk

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Yea take out 4 cards to add mana

naive prawn
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Would also certainly recommend lands that tap for at least two colors. The tap land cycle that taps for 3 colors seem ideal if you're on a budget

wispy rock
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So did this

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I am just stuck if I should get another land or put back my apple of Eden

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Not cause it good but I just got it lol

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Can you explain this

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The white/black symbol means I have to pay both or either or

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I just googled lol always thought I needed both not either or

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That's why I would shy away from those symbols lol

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Also you meant these ?

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I have them but tap kind of kills it

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Even the ones I have are in just cause they pretty lol

naive prawn
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wispy rock
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Yea i never googled it till today I just assumed i had to pay both so never used them

naive prawn
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Looking at the divide between colored mana requirements and production, your deck would really benefit from making plenty of colors

wispy rock
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And yea which is great thank you honestly

naive prawn
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Ideally, your mana production numbers meet or exceed the requirement numbers. Your new list does a much better job of this, good work!

wispy rock
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Yea i didn't really go for those lands cause they good but I got the full art version lol

naive prawn
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Oh how fun!

wispy rock
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Yea i wanted the assassin's one too but was only lucky to get one of the 6

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I got fiery

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But that ezio cost so much lol well it did

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Still a pretty penny but before was almost 100

steady isle
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Is it normal for a deck to have just 1 Planeswalker card?

wispy rock
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I think depends on the deck

naive prawn
shell plume
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thoughts

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cheap in both cost and average cmc

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so any recommendations

limber verge
limber verge
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I feel like it’s never beating a cedh deck ever tho

quasi vine
slim raft
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Hi! I feel like this [[Jon Irenicus, Shattered One]] deck is pretty solid. Please poke holes in it!

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Legendary Creature — Elf Wizard
At the beginning of your end step, target opponent gains control of up to one target creature you control. Put two +1/+1 counters on it and tap it. It's goaded for the rest of the game and it gains "This creature can't be sacrificed." (It attacks each combat if able and attacks a player other than you if able.)
Whenever a creature you own but don't control attacks, you draw a card.
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normal kernel
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Slapped this together in like 30 minutes. Need some advice and recommendations. I think I want my artifacts to act as more of a value engine/way to protect myself while I did for my two wincons.

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I thought about leaning less into artifact creatures and more into a token go-wide strategy but idk. Check out the “Considering” tab!

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fickle hornet
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Anyone have some good ideas for repeatable (preferably budget) repeatable card draw cards for sultai??? I currently have mystic remora, Phyrexia arena, and two of kiora plansewalkers but my deck is still too slow

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It is a [[xavier Sal infected captain]] deck

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Legendary Creature — Human Fungus Pirate
manat, Remove a counter from another permanent you control: Populate. Activate only as a sorcery. (Create a token that's a copy of a creature token you control.)
manat, Sacrifice another creature: Proliferate. Activate only as a sorcery. (Choose any number of permanents and/or players, then give each another counter of each kind already there.)
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restive pebble
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Hi guys! I'mmaking a [[jon irenicus]] deck, and I already have plenty of bummer creatures to give to other players.

I want to spice up this deck though, by having cards that I could hang onto or give away as the situation demands. Things like [[darkstar augur]] or [[dark confidant]]

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Legendary Creature — Elf Wizard
At the beginning of your end step, target opponent gains control of up to one target creature you control. Put two +1/+1 counters on it and tap it. It's goaded for the rest of the game and it gains "This creature can't be sacrificed." (It attacks each combat if able and attacks a player other than you if able.)
Whenever a creature you own but don't control attacks, you draw a card.
3/3

restive pebble
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I have already gotten a lot of cards that are just bummer creatures to have under your control. I'm now looking for cards that are mixed bags, so that I can preach the virtues of the Sigma Grindset as I give other players something that kills them and helps them.

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If anyone is into hyper niche deck brewing… trying to build a Commander deck where every card has pink in the art and I’m torn between several possible commanders. If anyone has ideas, I’m open. Currently, I’m considering Jodah, Grand Unifier WUBRG legendary, Breya WUBR artifacts, Djeru and Hazoret Boros Legendaries, or Gandalf the White monowhite Historic…

wraith onyx
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I got an idea for a modern deck.
Slow control deck with its main color being Blue, that later casts a Jace Reawakened for one reason: to plot Vaski, God of Lies so I can later cast Tibalt, Cosmic Impostor for free.

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Would that work or is modern too fast for that?

wooden breach
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You're gonna have to do a good amount of controlling to get to that point in the game

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A lot of the top modern decks are pretty fast and can snowball pretty hard if you don't answer them

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so gotta play a ton of counterspells then

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bounce spells/removal will also be required then

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so im gonna be playing a Dimir deck then, maybe Grixis if i have to hardcast tibalt

normal kernel
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Need some advice on where to go with this

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Going for a token/vehicle strategy

trim bridge
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what would be the eastiest way to get infinite storm count in izzet, in order to finish people off with a grapeshot?

wooden breach
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What is [[hullbreaker horror]] [[tidespout tyrant]]

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lime marlin
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I actually have all the cards for that combo except Ornithoptor (or a similar 0 cost) lol

trim bridge
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and would have no synergy on the rest of my deck

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tho i did find [[thousand year storm]] and [[spelljack]] which is a nice combo

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trim bridge
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that allows spelljack to exile itself and play itself again for free

wooden breach
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I just thought of something incredibly stupid

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Step 1: Have [[ashiok wiked manipulator]] ready to ult

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Legendary Planeswalker — Ashiok
If you would pay life while your library has at least that many cards in it, exile that many cards from the top of your library instead.
+1: Look at the top two cards of your library. Exile one of them and put the other into your hand.
−2: Create two 1/1 black Nightmare creature tokens with "At the beginning of combat on your turn, if a card was put into exile this turn, put a +1/+1 counter on this creature."
−7: Target player exiles the top X cards of their library, where X is the total mana value of cards you own in exile.
Loyalty: 5

wooden breach
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Step 2: Cast [[leveler]] to remove your library

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wooden breach
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Step 3: Ult Ashiok to exile the opponent's library

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Step 4: Pass turn

cunning sail
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I'm planning on making a loot key to everything landfall deck:
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/LvaU5C_NpUuyKXPuqnqZ0w

I don't have enough budget to use fetch lands, so i was thinking of switching out [[walk-in closet]] with [[spelunking]] instead since I won't benefit as much from playing lands in graveyard, and maybe adding a windfall for card draw(?)

Is this a good idea? any other suggestions on how to improve this deck without blowing too much money?

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Enchantment — Room
You may play lands from your graveyard.
(You may cast either half. That door unlocks on the battlefield. As a sorcery, you may pay the mana cost of a locked door to unlock it.)

Forgotten Cellar mana3managmanag
Enchantment — Room
When you unlock this door, you may cast spells from your graveyard this turn, and if a card would be put into your graveyard from anywhere this turn, exile it instead.
(You may cast either half. That door unlocks on the battlefield. As a sorcery, you may pay the mana cost of a locked door to unlock it.)

proper fiber
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if you're not playing lands from the graveyard in a landfall deck then that might be something worth investigating. because replaying fetches over and over for repeated extra landfall triggers are how landfall decks get to pop off

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I usually run every possible Crucible of worlds effect in my landfall decks just so I can guarantee 2 or more landfall triggers each turn. Of course, this also requires you to run a decent amount of fetchlands.

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Think of it like this. The base line is that you replay a fetch from the yard every turn. if you have stuff that gives you extra land drops, that's another 2 landfall triggers

cunning sail
# proper fiber Think of it like this. The base line is that you replay a fetch from the yard ev...

I do have some but most of them are the cheap tap "fetch" lands like terramorphic expanse, evolving wilds, escape tunnel etc.

the only good fetch land i have is just fabled passage, and i dont really want to spend over $10 for a fetch land, which is why i thought that spelunking would be a better fit in this deck since most of them enters tapped anyways.

Should i just keep the crucible of worlds like effect (probably gonna use ramunap excavator & walk-in closet) but add spelunking anyways then?

proper fiber
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Yeah. if you're on a budget, you can still get a lot of value from playing cheaper fetches. And Spelunking makes those all the better

atomic oar
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I've been wanting to build an edh deck where I before/after each game crack a pack and can use its contents (min 1, max every one but not likely) to make changes to the deck. I think I'd want a 5c commander so I can use any cards, and I assume it would go in the direction of "good stuff pile". What commander would be the best pick do you reckon? Kenrith so I can at least do anything when deck is bad? Sisay so I can always look for "voltron or anthems or legendaries always good" in the packs? Golos (rule 0) for "literally just good stuff"?

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Other recs?

oak hemlock
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Has anyone here built omnath? what do you think. I'm wondering if my land base is balanced enough. let me know what else to include!!!

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I was at 42 lands but trimmed down to 38

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because I utilize fetch lands

deep dune
normal kernel
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What are the thoughts on this?

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Haven’t put it on paper yet

gaunt pagoda
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Did something silly...no land deck

trim bridge
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that really is quite unique, tho 1 farewell is the end of your match

cunning spoke
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Quick probably dumb question

What would be a good deck that popsnoff fairly quickly in commander with any combination of esper colors(dimir, esper, orzohv, arzorius) just wanna build something for my table my friend keep goingnoff and really wide really fast especially since one of them built zimone

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Besides artifact, that one imm more wondering if i keep alelah or finally try urza

Also got oloro, raffine, aminatou blink, and marneus calgar for then esper options (been meaning to do zur but haven’t gotten around to it)

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dusk quartz
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eternal skiff
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Noted

dusk quartz
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And maybe I would cut the emerald medallion. You have over 20 Cards there it's useless. I would replace it with a mana rock or a classic ramp card.

eternal skiff
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thats a fair assessment

dusk quartz
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That's all I recognised now. I am a newbie so I don't think I can help you more

eternal skiff
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Appreciate it

dusk quartz
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Oh no there is one more thing. You play a lot of creatures. 6 of them are mana dorks. Why? I mean they are very useful then you need very early very much mana. But your mana curve is very flat. I recommend to add ramp spells instead. The creatures will die sooner or later. Your lands will stay. [[Three Visits]], [[Cultivate]] , [[Skyshroud Claim]] and so on

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