#Deck Brewing General

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timber orchid
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You’re not really using your graveyard much (aside from the rise of the drauge, which doesn’t seem great with how varied your creature types are) so Firja putting things in your graveyard isn’t much of an advantage

urban flume
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yeah, after adding the monk of the open hand i noticed the typings were getting a bit spread out. At first there was a lot of clerics

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i was thinking about adding [[Adamant will]] or [[Offer Immortality]] for some combat tricks

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urban flume
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i feel being able to make your growing creatures survive early so that they can carry late would be an idea

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but i dont know if that's what you'd want

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[[renegade's getaway]] also gives a target for village rites but it's a bit expensive

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timber orchid
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I’d recommend [[! Shelter]] since it draws you a card. Idk, the ones you picked out are good to.

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urban flume
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oh yeah, that looks great

timber orchid
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Power level is something to keep in mind also. You want to keep the decks on a roughly even playing field if you’re going to want to play them against each other multiple times.

Don’t want every game to end up one sided.

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That’s just not super fun. You can adjust and swap cards as you play together. It’s not an exact science

urban flume
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yeah, i've been trying out the decks against each other in a program called Forge but the AI isn't very good so i dont really know how they'll measure up against each other

urban flume
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Well, thank you so much pkele, you've been a great help i'll try ordering this and see how it fares against the others 😄

celest rapids
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Oh and Read the Bones

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gray yoke
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Okay so I did a slight rehaul of this deck adding more synergistic pieces with tokens and treasures and removing generic cards and some removal spells, because I'm intentionally making this deck less powerful overall and more focused on the things I want to do with it. Any and all recommendations are welcome, thanks.
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/kHtRKImI2ESHJSZaR7chwQ

median heron
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When people talk about adding Ramp or Lands to their deck, do mana rocks count as Ramp, or as Lands? Trying to follow the prof's formula for making a Commander deck

median herald
# median heron When people talk about adding Ramp or Lands to their deck, do mana rocks count a...

Oh, I think I can answer this. I'm a new player of magic. It depends on the deck. But technically yes, mana rocks are ramp. But, they are not as stable as actual lands and spells that search for or tutor for land. Cultivate, and Kodama's Reach, 3 visits, nature's lore are common staples in green. The reason it's not as stable is the commander format is the contract players have with each other, like commonly not destroying lands in most decks therefore harder to destroy while artifacts and creatures most are okay with removing easily excluding the problematic strategies including Stax, MLD.

timber orchid
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If I ever go below 5 cards in hand and it’s not from an opponent making me discard I feel like I’ve built my deck wrong

median herald
# timber orchid If I ever go below 5 cards in hand and it’s not from an opponent making me disca...

Exactly, after 5 in the opening hand, it feels like dimensioning returns. I like running 35 lands, nothing lower. My Bright-Palm Soul Awakener deck has 37 lands. I keep hands that I can play/use only and never go below 5 cards in hand. I have a great ramp in Bright Palm. Mana dorks, those ramp spells I mentioned. In all, it depends on the deck. The only rocks I usually run are Solring, and Arcane Signet in every deck of mine. A couple more in Veyran (spell slinger in Izzet.) Izzet rocks mainly in that one. So it depends on the deck. But rocks are easily destroyed so land is the sure safe option especially when not in green. Green has the best ramp.

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Ideally, 2 or 3 lands out of 7 are land, and something to play turn 2 or 3 like a Birds of Pardice or a ramp spell. Turn-one plays are rare and a delight.

timber orchid
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It’s true. I find the best part of the game is drawing cards. They could be anything, even the ability to draw more cards!

median herald
median herald
timber orchid
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I feel like Monarchy is just the overlap of a ven diagram of swinging and drawing cards, but I totally agree.

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Swinging is great and monarchy help the game move along.

median heron
median herald
# median heron You did!

Great to hear! I also recommend this series of Tolarian Community College, for more info. Tolarian Tutor series. It helped me a lot. I've only played Commander and Magic for less than a year. So I hope this all helps

median herald
cunning spoke
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Quick question is 9 mana rocks too much for a nekusar deck( 3 signet, talisman and the usual ring sphere arcane) also wayfarers

prime iron
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Probably but playtest the deck some. Could be your draw power is good enough the number of draw spells you have doesn't have a detrimental effect

leaden monolith
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are there any other cards like [[bravado]] in mono red? artifacts also

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leaden monolith
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[[Mob Mentality]] found one in enchantments!

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summer roost
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Can I get some help with this deck? It's mono black and wants me to gain as much life as possible before my endstep so my commander, Gollum, can deal massive damage.
https://www.archidekt.com/decks/5065728/filthy_hobbitses

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Gollum, Obsessed Stalker - Commander / EDH deck
The Ring • Lifegain
(1) Commander • (17) Artifact • (32) Creature • (7) Enchantment • (13) Instant • (37) Land • (1) Planeswalker • (11) Sorcery

median heron
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If you're making an Esper Faerie/Angel deck is there any reason you should have Alela as your commander?

solid pecan
halcyon wasp
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I'm thinking about some sort of deck that can utilise [[Enterprising Scallywag]] well - anything that makes treasure tokens would effectively replace itself well (It'll have to be a casual modern, prioneer or standdard deck though to take advantage of multiple-ofs)

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halcyon wasp
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it's a VERY good effect for an uncommon

halcyon wasp
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Unles I make red/green/white with [[Sun's avatar]] and [[deepest foundation]]

rare escarpBOT
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Multiple cards match “Sun's avatar”, can you be more specific?

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Legendary Creature — God
Vigilance
If one or more creature tokens would be created under your control, three times that many of those tokens are created instead.
When Ojer Taq dies, return it to the battlefield tapped and transformed under its owner's control.
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Temple of Civilization
Land
(Transforms from Ojer Taq, Deepest Foundation.)
manat: Add manaw.
mana2manaw, manat: Transform Temple of Civilization. Activate only if you attacked with three or more creatures this turn and only as a sorcery.
Chimil gave the Oltec life. Ojer Taq taught them how to live together.

halcyon wasp
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[[gishath, sun's avatar]]

rare escarpBOT
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Legendary Creature — Dinosaur Avatar
Vigilance, trample, haste
Whenever Gishath, Sun's Avatar deals combat damage to a player, reveal that many cards from the top of your library. Put any number of Dinosaur creature cards from among them onto the battlefield and the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.
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halcyon wasp
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(including [[Poetic Ing]])

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halcyon wasp
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and [[doubling season]] and [[anointed procession]], [[parallel lives]], [[primal vigor]], lol

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halcyon wasp
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Any suggestions which route to go down (Gishath commander or just red/green pioneer with poetic and focus on dinos and treasure tokens for ramp) appreciated!

spare kelp
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I could use a few other sets of eyes on a few decks! 🤝

vapid sierra
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made my first deck to play commander with some friends

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any suggestions? the "maybeboard" is cards I have right now

proper fiber
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I would say you probably want some more interaction, such as removal and counterspells

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you can probably cut the anthems, chanes are with your ETB burn enchantments and just the sheer amount of tokens you create, you don't really need them

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[[Decaying timeloop]] seems great for a deck like this

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proper fiber
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consider cutting Into the night, just because introducing the day/night mechanic into a game that otherwise may not really need it is kinda annoying

lime moth
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Did a few more revisions on my Edgin deck, there was a point I was turning it into a spellslinger deck but I decided to go to a more Light Stax (Nothing incredibly oppressive just sprinkling of random hatebears) / Goad theme

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/o-tq8Hfx8kGpsBRlgPSgBA

Something that might be really dumb is I didn't put a single card here that would cause me to shuffle my deck, and as well as to make me care about my GY (There's like two cards here now that can be casted from the GY, as well as 1 card that allows to freecast an Instant/Sorcery from the GY by chance)

summer roost
lime moth
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Yeah, was originally Apocalypse but Worldfire changed it from a reset into an actual finisher.

There's a couple core cards there that I really don't want or can't get rid of because of how they could theoretically be finishers (Mind's Desire, Worldfire, Impending Flux, Possibility Storm) and a couple more pet cards I've been waffling over

tawdry hatch
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As someone who has never built an izzet deck, how would I build [[Saheeli, the sun's brilliance]], I've been told to look at "artifact good stuff" but aren't sure what to do with that. Any commanders that are similar so I can look at some decklists?

rare escarpBOT
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Legendary Creature — Human Artificer
manaumanar, manat: Create a token that's a copy of another target creature or artifact you control, except it's an artifact in addition to its other types. It gains haste. Sacrifice it at the beginning of the next end step.
What began as a single gift for Huatli became a battalion of automatons unlike anything ever seen on Ixalan.
2/2

lime moth
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So, someways to build Saheeli is just a fair value Artifact ETB deck that looks to double up on good artifacts that can punch face. Then you get to complicated stuff like ending the turn when you get the End Step triggers to keep the tokens permanently.

summer roost
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You could go ETB good stuff in those colors. If you want an artifact theme, I would go with cards like [[Wurmcoil Engine]] or [[Myr Battlesphere]] for an aggressive go wide that'll help discourage attacks that you can later use in any artifact infinite combo you may need

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summer roost
summer roost
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I could use some help cutting down on this deck. I feel like it's set up nicely with core pieces and support, but I fear it may have too many pet or fun cards. Plus it's also 12 cards over the limit
https://www.archidekt.com/decks/5881864/cyber_zombies

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The Cyber-Controller - Commander / EDH deck
Artifacts
(1) Commander • (15) Artifact • (28) Creature • (2) Enchantment • (13) Instant • (37) Land • (3) Planeswalker • (13) Sorcery

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The commander is [[The Cyber-Controller]]

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prime iron
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Do yall think [[oran frostfang]] would be still good in a [[godzilla, king of the monsters]] deck? It functionally loses 4 toughness but man those combat triggers still make me consider if a 5 mana 2/2 worth it

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summer roost
prime iron
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prime iron
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[[Samut, visier of]]

rare escarpBOT
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No card found for “Samut, visier of”

prime iron
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So no not less mana, a bit more and an extra card

wraith onyx
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Can anyone reccomend about 30 creature/artidact cards for a Quitorius Loremaster deck please? Kinda struggling after 70

prime iron
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Oh boy

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Do I

prime iron
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It's a zirda companion deck so every card has an activated ability

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It's an artifact discard deck

wraith onyx
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Ohhh thats neat

prime iron
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There isn't much spirit support with activated abilities so feel free to just cut the artifact infinite stuff

wraith onyx
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Pricy, but cool as heck

prime iron
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Proxied but cool as heck haha

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Grim monolith my detested

wraith onyx
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Wait I can just buy 100 proxies and play it??

prime iron
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Yep

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As long as the folks you're against are chill with it and I've never played a game where it wasn't but

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Yeah I just proxy everything that's not a special foil

wraith onyx
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Oh well thats nice to know

prime iron
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Certainly saves your wallet

summer roost
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My play groups are super chill about proxies. If you already own the card or if it's a powerhouse in a super weak deck, than your fine.

summer roost
tawdry hatch
prime iron
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This is very solid, maybe add [[$underworld cookbook]]? Ik recursion can be hard in mono red and its a discard outlet

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prime iron
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[[Underworld cookbook]]

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summer roost
unkempt axle
timid marlin
summer roost
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I actually made all my cuts. In trible decks, as long as you have the proper surpluses of creatures, you can add one or 2 support creatures that aren't the same type. This deck wants to go wide with a bunch of tokens, so their inclusion actually helps to that end

timber orchid
tawdry hatch
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Any kind of recursion, you wanna be able to bring your value pieces back from the grave after they die

timber orchid
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unkempt axle
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timber orchid
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Can’t believe I forgot about victimize. Are there any cuts you’d suggest for those?

unkempt axle
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hmmm thats hard since you already have a 102 card count

timber orchid
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The victimize and one of the recursion pieces are the extra 2 cards

unkempt axle
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honestly altar of dementia seems like not a huge benefit to have without large amounts of recursion since a lot of your creatures are like less than 5 power

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i suppose youd be milling twice that much with drivnod

timber orchid
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Nah, drivnod doesn’t double it. Altar of dimentia was just the first thing to come to mind for “free sac outlet” when putting the list together

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Altar is an activated ability, drivnod only doubles triggered abilities

unkempt axle
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true i suppose sac outlets are important for the deck to function

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i was also going to suggest a couple of cards that are a little pricy although one has come down due to a reprint

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[[pitiless plunderer]]

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unkempt axle
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[[kokusho, the evening star]]

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timber orchid
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I do really like the kokusho suggestion. My main issue I’ve had when borrowing/trying out other people’s Aristocrats decks is they have a million things that want things to die, but aren’t willing to actually be the thing to get killed.

unkempt axle
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i have a decklist which i havent put together irl yet and its all about blwing up my own stuff liek kokusho or bringning them back from graveyard for cheap

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in fact its part of the reason i suggest kokusho cause its just good value

timber orchid
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Sweet list.

I could cut butcher of malakir. It seems like a little bit of a win more card.

What do you think.

unkempt axle
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i could see that although it is one of your only higher cost cards

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mire triton seems to not do a lot for you

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apart from being a deathtoucher

timber orchid
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Yeah, that makes sense

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I could cut Gnawing Vermin. It checks a lot of boxes for the deck, but is just really low impact

unkempt axle
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i love tragic slip but sometimes nothing dies in a turn and you have a -1/-1 spell in hand when you need that -13/-13

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gnawing vermin is also a solid option since it essentially gives liitle to no value even on death

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[[malakir rebirth]] would also be good for keeping something on the board when someones trying to kill it or you just want more value

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Instant
Choose target creature. You lose 2 life. Until end of turn, that creature gains "When this creature dies, return it to the battlefield tapped under its owner's control."
"Those who fail to escape Malakir become part of the city's defense." —Doros, expedition guide

Malakir Mire
Land
Malakir Mire enters the battlefield tapped.
manat: Add manab.
"Getting into Malakir isn't difficult. It's getting out that's the hard part." —Doros, expedition guide

unkempt axle
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and a personal favourite of mine for death triggers [[saw in half]]

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timber orchid
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I valued Vermin for its mill to be more likely to have the cards in graveyard to make drivnod indestructible.

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But it might be a bit of a trap

unkempt axle
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you already have a fair amount of low mana curve cards that will probably chump block and die anyway for that

timber orchid
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True. The game plan is doing value sacrificing and then either drawing or tutoring a Living Death to bring it all back and drain the table.

unkempt axle
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id personally remove transmogrants crown too

timber orchid
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Really? What’s wrong with it?

unkempt axle
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you have something much better already in skull clamp

timber orchid
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It is worse than S.C. It’s mostly for redundancy. But I do really want to sqeeze in saw in half, so I’ll cut it for that

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Thanks for the advice

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I look forward to trying the deck out.

unkempt axle
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no problem. i love suggesting saw in half its such an underrated card

timber orchid
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Gotta love those pocket picks.

My pocket pick for underrated/ovelooked card is [[! Nanogene Conversion]] for any commander with an end of turn effect or a triggered ability that stacks well and you can trigger easily.
Stuff like Talrand, Sky Summoner, or Urza, Chief Artificer.

unkempt axle
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oh yeah that could be sick

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i dont think i have any decks that could work for hmm maybe jodah and just have everything be a cascade jodah for a turn

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oh hmmm actually maybe not good since the copies stop being legendary so they dont get the buff form other creatures

kindred raven
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Hey how do we feel about Malcolm Kediss in the format rn

prime iron
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Who's that

leaden monolith
leaden monolith
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guys any copy effects for [[balmor battlemage]]? i want to copy her so i can make my creatures huge with 2 or 3 balmor triggers- spark double is already in the deck

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prime iron
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Veyran is a castharmonicon

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prime iron
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Doubles her effect

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Plus [[nanogene conversion]] could make all your things balmor

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coarse dome
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Hey guys, im new to the game and decided to get into the game with this set. I bought two booster boxes and Im trying to build a blue/black deck with what I have. I have 2 questions. How many lands should I have in my deck? I have 16 I think from the booster boxes. Ive got a couple extra that I can put in if need be.Also, would anyone be down to help me build a good deck?

proper fiber
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First, what format are you trying to build a deck for. Or rather, what format are the people you want to play against playing? Do they play commander? Do youguys just play casual "kitchen table" magic? (Aka just classic 60 card decks with cards you own)

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It's gonna be hard to give you precise recommendations for the latter, since we don't know what cards you actually have. For 60 card decks, try bumping up your land count to around 24 lands though.

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if you want to play commander, then the best way to start is to actually buy one of the preconstructed decks. Pretty much all of the commander decks that came out in like the past year or 2 are pretty playable out of the box, with some small and easy upgrades you can do.

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Building a commander deck using only cards from boosters is going to be rather difficult, as you are very limited in your selection. One of the appeals of commander is that you have access to magic's entire card pool, barring some banned cards.
If you're completely new, then starting with a preconstructed commander deck makes the most sense. It is the most popular casual format.
Building a deck from scratch when you're completely new is not an easy task, it probably makes more sense to get your grip on an already built deck, not only to be able to get some games in, but also to see how a deck is generally constructed.

coarse dome
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alot of people at my local card shop play commander. But I really like the standard format. Thats what Im trying to build for now. IVe got like 600 cards to work with atm

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most coming from ixalan, and about 100 coming from march of the machines

solid pecan
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Would anyone be willing to give me some advice on my [[Edgar markov]] deck? I think I did OK brewing wise, but I want to power it up even more. There are 4 combo lines which may be too much. There's Blood Artist with Oathsworn and Phyrexian Altar, Blood Artist with Dusk legion sargent and First day of class, Excuisite Blood and Vito and the Cloudstone Curio with Voldaren Epicure. My issue is I feel like I am not getting into the combos effectively enough, and wanted to know what the community thinks I could do to fix the deck. https://www.moxfield.com/decks/CQw8RP-UA0ibILpEFUduvg

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wraith onyx
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Anyone got any decklists for a Boros Spirits deck?

tribal finch
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wraith onyx
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What are some generally good Green Black cards for [[Old Stickfingers]]?

rare escarpBOT
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Legendary Creature — Horror
When you cast this spell, reveal cards from the top of your library until you reveal X creature cards. Put all creature cards revealed this way into your graveyard, then put the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.
Old Stickfingers's power and toughness are each equal to the number of creature cards in your graveyard.
*/*

proper fiber
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anything with dredge probably

wraith onyx
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yea, i did add some dredge cards along side alot of mill cards

dull plover
dull plover
vapid sierra
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is 13 ramp artifacts too many?
any suggestions on swaps from the sideboard?

vapid sierra
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I'm not really confident on which control/draw spells are best here

cobalt slate
cobalt slate
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I need help with what to cut for ramp & draw

gray yoke
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Do you all think I could get away with removing [[Demonic Tutor]] for [[Diabolic Intent]] specifically in this deck? The only reason I'm considering this is because I'm kinda broke rn lol

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thick vale
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I'm not sure who to brew next, any help? [[Muldrotha, the Gravetide]] or [[Winota, Joiner of Forces]] or [[Nekusar, the Mindrazer]] and lastly [[The Mimeoplasm]]

rare escarpBOT
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Legendary Creature — Human Warrior
Whenever a non-Human creature you control attacks, look at the top six cards of your library. You may put a Human creature card from among them onto the battlefield tapped and attacking. It gains indestructible until end of turn. Put the rest of the cards on the bottom of your library in a random order.
4/4

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Legendary Creature — Zombie Wizard
At the beginning of each player's draw step, that player draws an additional card.
Whenever an opponent draws a card, Nekusar, the Mindrazer deals 1 damage to that player.
His enemies wondered if the lich king's brutal death and unnatural rebirth had been his plan all along.
2/4

hoary lava
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I would like to build an Izzet spellslinger deck. Super aggro, minimal creatures, instants-heavy, some counterspell, counter creature stuff. Izzet spellslinger. The thing is, I'm pretty new and don't know all the cards and stuff. I know I'l want Lightning bolt and other simple deal damage cards like it, maybe at tolarian terror if it's common, but idk what else. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.

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I can't find the tag for pauper but it should be pauper

foggy kindle
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I need some decks that have been famously marked up and the average market price you'll find them for nowadays

wraith onyx
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Quite proud of it

proper fiber
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28 lands seems insanely low for a deck that doesn't run a bunch of fast mana

median herald
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I don’t really see the reason for why mirrorbox is in there

river sonnet
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I’ve started brewing an Izzet deck led by [[Vadrik, Astral Archmage]] and am trying to give myself a bit of a challenge to keep the budget around $100 (tcgplayer puts the deck at $90 currently before any shipping costs). When fishbowling the deck it can consistently combo off turn 5 or 6 but I keep wondering if there are some cards that should be swapped in as seen in the maybeboard and if I might be running on the lower side for removal.

https://archidekt.com/decks/6096577/vadrik_astral_stormchaser

Any previous spellslinger deck I’ve run has been more control and value focused, outlasting my opponents until I have a combo assembled to win or just create a bunch of copies of a finisher. In comparison this deck is trying to have a single explosive turn, make Vadrik stupidly swole, and assemble some combo with the value engine that the draw, cost reduction, and mana generation make. So I’m brewing a bit outside of my wheelhouse here.

Archidekt

Vadrik, Astral Archmage - Commander / EDH deck
Budget
(1) Commander • (4) Burn • (4) Copy • (15) Draw • (2) Keep Going • (30) Land • (5) Pump • (24) Ramp • (4) Recursion • (10) Removal • (1) Tutor
Aiming to make a good Izzet spell focused deck that's around $100 or less out the gate.

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vapid sierra
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is 35 lands fine if I have a bunch of draw

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(commander)

median herald
wicked arch
tawdry hatch
open fox
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Trying to figure out which of the sideboard options to add for my [[Ixhel, Scion of Atraxa]] deck. Open to other cuts for the sideboard though https://archidekt.com/decks/5202416/corrupting_influence_ixhel

Archidekt

Ixhel, Scion of Atraxa - Commander / EDH deck

(1) Commander • (1) Counters • (5) Draw • (1) Evasion • (1) Finisher • (11) Infect • (36) Land • (6) Proliferate • (3) Protection • (11) Ramp • (2) Recursion • (14) Removal • (3) Sorcery • (1) Tokens

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Legendary Creature — Phyrexian Angel
Flying, vigilance, toxic 2
Corrupted — At the beginning of your end step, each opponent who has three or more poison counters exiles the top card of their library face down. You may look at and play those cards for as long as they remain exiled, and you may spend mana as though it were mana of any color to cast those spells.
2/5

timber orchid
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I’m thinking of making a [[!
Bruna, Light of Alabaster]] deck. What are some cool cards I should put into it?

The hardest part seems like it would be protecting her until I can get that first swing off to obliterate someone.

cinder pasture
mortal bay
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https://www.moxfield.com/decks/HS8TYncpoU62N8EvLtHdZA Any help would be appreciated with how to really get the most value out of my color combination while tunnel visioning into getting zoyowa triggers copying and lightly wheeling and sacrifice dealing. I've play tested lightly and have a very altered paper version which i am trying to focus a gameplan with. Thanks!

little crown
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I'm going to be playing some casual 60 card magic with friend and family over the holiday, but I'll be the one making all the decks, so I realised I can just build whatever I want and match the powerlevel of the decks to that. So this is where I'm at with my "dream deck" for 60 card casual, any suggestions? Will also take suggestions for 2 or 3 other decks to build to play against this. Thinking at least a GB deck.

solid pecan
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Friends and I are doing a $150 commander challenge. Rules are, 4 colors or less, not including basic lands, and must have a theme/gimmick to it. What would be the most powerful deck to build? Winner is getting 4 collectors boxes.

little crown
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what kind of "gimmick" are we talking? The best budget decks for 150 are imo kinnan, winota and tivit. You could do "all creatues" winota if that counts as a gimmick? Or I guess kinnan could have some sorts of themes/gimmicks, like "sea monsters" kinnan is probably still fine, but it all depends how restrictive the theme-restriction is.

solid pecan
little crown
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I'd do tivit artifacts then. Include oswald, whir of invention, fabricate and reshape to find time-sieve and just do a kind of controlly artifact build other than that with lots of mana rocks and a few counterspells + some removal, including boardwipes. damn is just like 2$ and I also like Path of Peril, out of time and languish for budget wipes.

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oh, and a thing I did in budget tivit that I loved is playing artifact lands, so oswald can fetch sol ring, then next turn you use sol ring to play tivit, then sac sol ring for time sieve

tawdry hatch
rare escarpBOT
dull plover
summer roost
unkempt axle
summer roost
unkempt axle
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i always suck at cutting cards especially if i think i havent got enough cards doing a similar thing to what i want to cut

summer roost
open fox
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Outta curiosity, do y'all recommend Ixhel or Vishgraz as a poison commander? Or they're two different styles to say which is better

ashen mauve
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I recommend not playing Poison

prime iron
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Ixhel is at least like, interesting and incentives you to do something besides stacking every poison counter on just one player

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Vishgraz is pretty much just stack and swing

open fox
ashen mauve
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Eldrazi I think may be better to work on, if your deck is just dedicated Poison you're gonna get really hard targeted and that's never fun

open fox
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Yeah I'm working on making a lot of commander decks from scratch but currently those are the only two fully legal ones I own

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And they both get demolished at my LGS

prime iron
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You're playing lightningrod decks lol

open fox
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Lol some people have infinite mana eldrazi decks, zur the enchanter and Kaalia decks

ashen mauve
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Yeah if you are playing a precon you'll have a rough time against most decks, you are definitely gonna have a bad time playing against those

open fox
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Yeah that's why I kinda don't mind doing Poison cause they'd all be equal threats if I upgrade I feel(I could be completely wrong)

median herald
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I don't have any recommendations for you

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Sorry I'm new to magic. Only played for a year

wicked arch
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i love playing kwain

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i need to add personal tutor for my second sun

prime iron
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Oh I dig this deck

median herald
prime iron
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[[$personal tutor]]

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tawdry hatch
rapid isle
median herald
unborn canopy
unique stirrup
summer roost
unique stirrup
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someties i think i am playing ramp typal LOL

summer roost
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Ixidor can flip them over and since they are just facedown creatures, he'll also give them a +1/+1 power boost

unique stirrup
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yea !

summer roost
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Keep a small bounce package for your commander, preferably a way to do it each turn. A small blink package for the facedown creatures, and then whatever else you want to support your deck

unique stirrup
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ok

summer roost
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There are alot of cards from Neon Dynasty that have a reduced cost based on the number of Arrifacts. Could use some of those

solid pecan
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Looking for a fun commander. I have a lot of serious decks, looking into something that does silly things or has silly combos that don't auto win the game.

summer roost
rare escarpBOT
solid pecan
summer roost
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I made an Anex deck that uses all those elementals that sacrifice themselves at the end of the turn. It's stupid and low power, but I enjoy it

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My Karn deck. It was the first commander deck that I built from scratch
https://www.archidekt.com/decks/5198407/the_brave_little_toaster

Archidekt

Karn, Silver Golem - Commander / EDH deck
Artifacts
(1) Commander • (45) Artifact • (15) Creature • (34) Land • (4) Planeswalker • (1) Sorcery
The Brave Little Toaster just wanted to be loved and make toast, but Eldrazi, Elder Dragons, and Phyrexians are making it very hard to do.

This is a simple Karn deck whose main focus is turning my art...

unique stirrup
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unique stirrup
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if you ask me , I tink the deck need more early game them jsut mana rocks, I was thinking and stuff like [[Sai, Master Thopterist]]

rare escarpBOT
unique stirrup
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[[Reality Heist]] is a very cool one, but cut it because it miss a lot, that was at first , maybe the card dont do that anymore

rare escarpBOT
unique stirrup
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[[Assassin's Ink]] maybe ? ask for artifact and enchantment

rare escarpBOT
summer roost
unique stirrup
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yea, dont sure, I still thinking how run this deck, like, you want cast you commander for x=5, but something you need the tempo early, i like the idea, like, you need to know when cast you commander depending of the board state

summer roost
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I'm trying it as ramp out and cast my commander as early as possible. Seeing if I can't bounce him often to recast none stop

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It's not the best strategy, but it lines up with the idiocy that is my playstyle

prime iron
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I like the list and am honestly stealing it wholesale and swapping out a few pieces for like, pet cards it seems really fun

unique stirrup
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btw did you consider [[Cranial Plating]] in the list ?

rare escarpBOT
summer roost
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Would be a good card to knock a player out with

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[[Time Sieve]] would also be a strong puck for the deck

rare escarpBOT
unique stirrup
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Time Sieve is a awesome dumb cards

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how good is [[Realmbreaker, the Invasion Tree]] really ? isn't too slow ?

rare escarpBOT
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Legendary Artifact
mana2, manat: Target opponent mills three cards. Put a land card from their graveyard onto the battlefield tapped under your control. It gains "If this land would leave the battlefield, exile it instead of putting it anywhere else."
mana10, manat, Sacrifice Realmbreaker, the Invasion Tree: Search your library for any number of Praetor cards, put them onto the battlefield, then shuffle.

summer roost
unique stirrup
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I see , was testing the list a few times, and i feel the more important cards are the ramps ones

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sadly in my playgroup i cant play urza

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but yea I feel like is better try to ramp hard

summer roost
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I only added Urza because I already own one. Most expensive cards that are in my lists are there cause I already own it. I hate spending a lot of money on a single card

unique stirrup
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You list helo me a lot @summer roost trank you so much

summer roost
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This list is still very new and changing and probably will change more as I play it

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It does have a few fun cards that don't really add to the actual gameplan of the deck

summer roost
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Thank you

vapid sierra
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I'm making this new deck, main idea is discouraging attacks with taxes and using planeswalkers to build a big board

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Are there any good synergies I'm missing?

median herald
solid pecan
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Anyone have a decent Abaddon deck list?

summer roost
solid pecan
summer roost
vapid sierra
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Ooh very on-theme too

summer roost
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A nice Anthem effect and a great token generation effect

summer roost
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Well.... with the chaos of Abaddon it could keep things interesting

solid pecan
summer roost
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The pingers are either easy part

warped sentinel
mortal bay
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What are the top 5 board wipes in Rakdos and why? I have 4 meta, and 2 thematic board wipes in a deck and can't make final decision.

summer roost
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Slowly updating my decks and adding them to archidekt to make it easier to update, track and share my lists.
If anyone is interested in looking. I don't think this deck will be seeing any updates for a while
https://www.archidekt.com/decks/6268606/plague_of_the_gods

Archidekt

The Scorpion God - Commander / EDH deck

(1) Commander • (10) Artifact • (27) Creature • (6) Enchantment • (11) Instant • (36) Land • (2) Planeswalker • (7) Sorcery

summer roost
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I lied. I found a card that fits the deck perfectly that just came out [[Spitting Dilophosaurus]]

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prime iron
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Is [[oracles vault]] a card you've gotten a lot of use out of?

rare escarpBOT
summer roost
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Just make sure to wait to play your land for turn

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If you have proliferate or are a permanent heavy deck it can be worth the mana and time investment to get it going

prime iron
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I've never seen it before

summer roost
solid pecan
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Cool combo I think I discovered by accident with [[Marath]] . While testing my deck I had [[Wiltleaf liege]] and [[Devoted Druid]] all on board which gave infinite mana. Then played Marath using lands, had Lightning's equiped to Marath and used its X Ability to get game. If I am right this works like the Walking Balista/Mikaeus loop, as long as I always have mana and a counter.

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Legendary Creature — Elemental Beast
Marath, Will of the Wild enters the battlefield with a number of +1/+1 counters on it equal to the amount of mana spent to cast it.
manax, Remove X +1/+1 counters from Marath: Choose one —
• Put X +1/+1 counters on target creature. X can't be 0.
• Marath deals X damage to any target. X can't be 0.
• Create an X/X green Elemental creature token. X can't be 0.
0/0

open fox
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Do y'all think the 8x8 or some format of that is good for deck building commander decks before fine tuning them?

open fox
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You take your commander, do 35 lands, then make 8 categories(ramp, removal, etc) and fill each category with 8 cards to make 64 cards

summer roost
rose shore
prime iron
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Tbh faldorn is really solid on her own without any upgrades, I'd just strongly suggest [[passionate archeologist]] for constant ping and I'd maybe lean you into some of the wolf anthem effects or guys who do cool things with wolves like [[master of the wild hunt]], [[nightpack ambusher]], and [[wrens pack huntmaster]] although idk if you want to lose exile effect spots for them, deathtouch one seems p good even tho you don't got an elf I don't think

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Creature — Human Shaman
At the beginning of your upkeep, create a 2/2 green Wolf creature token.
manat: Tap all untapped Wolf creatures you control. Each Wolf tapped this way deals damage equal to its power to target creature. That creature deals damage equal to its power divided as its controller chooses among any number of those Wolves.
3/3

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No card found for “wrens pack huntmaster”

prime iron
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[[Wrens run packmaster]]

rare escarpBOT
rose shore
summer roost
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I would recommend taking [[Ruxa]] out. There are better options for making tokens hit harder that can boost your entire board as well

rare escarpBOT
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Legendary Creature — Bear Druid
Whenever Ruxa, Patient Professor enters the battlefield or attacks, return target creature card with no abilities from your graveyard to your hand.
Creatures you control with no abilities get +1/+1.
For each creature you control with no abilities, you may have that creature assign its combat damage as though it weren't blocked.
4/4

summer roost
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A good Exile card [[You Find Some Prisoners]] can destroy an annoying artifact or steal something good from an opponent.

rare escarpBOT
prime iron
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I also don't see [[wrenns resolve]]

rare escarpBOT
summer roost
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Fantastic card

urban nova
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hello, can merfolk precon be upgraded to match power level 7-8 at my local LGS. I am new to magic but my group has all veteran players. They have high power level decks so I don't want to be a headache and make them switch decks when i come to play. Most of them don't have precons or something at my level so I figured I can make few changes. If that doesn't work, do I have to build a new deck with new commander etc? how would I go on the upgrade process? what cards are to change and what new cards would I buy? Is there a pre made moxfield list I can follow? I have seen $50 precon upgrade but not sure how relevant that is (if any of you have a moxfield list to post, I can follow that, very much appreciated)

sand oracle
rose shore
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Great suggestion thanks @prime iron @summer roost 👌😁

tawdry hatch
thorny trench
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how many hydras does a hydra deck need on average?

prime iron
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It depends what's the commander

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[[Zaxara]] doesn't actually need too many if you just wanna go big x spells

rare escarpBOT
thorny trench
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i'm running [[Hamza]]
right now i'm thinking about 13 since it's sorta the payoff for having an already wide board

rare escarpBOT
prime iron
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Oooooh that's new i like that, 13 seems alright but unless the other creatures are essential I might push you to put in more

thorny trench
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alrighty. i can probably make some cuts then

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i should grab the list

open fox
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So I'm gonna be making a new commander deck(don't have any cards picked out beyond potential commanders). The two I'm thinking of are either [[Rafiq of the Many]], or [[Tolsimir Wolfblood]]. Rafiq is cheaper and adds in Blue to make it Bant, but Tolsimir while more expensive and just Selesnya. I'm also not sure if Exalted from Rafiq gives a good enough mechanic to any creatues to build around

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rose shore
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I love elves and wolves tho so tolsimir seems cool

open fox
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The vague idea I had was like I wanted like a LoZ Link stand-in. So elves or knights came to mind

rose shore
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Hmm cool concept. Love me some LoZ

open fox
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Yeah. Bant and Rafiq fit that. But idk if he'd be much of a threat, vs I'm voltroning something else

copper moth
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I'm having trouble finding an interesting build with [[Rukarumel biologist]]

rare escarpBOT
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Legendary Creature — Human Wizard
As Rukarumel, Biologist enters the battlefield, choose a creature type.
Slivers you control and nontoken creatures you control are the chosen type in addition to their other creature types. The same is true for creature spells you control and creature cards you own that aren't on the battlefield.
mana3, manat: Create a 1/1 colorless Sliver creature token.
3/3

prime iron
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You could make a really niche creature type commander like Aurochs or Badgers

copper moth
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Who? And who?

broken marlin
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Hey, would anyone be interested in helping me make a deck in dms? I can give all the details there so I'm not flooding the channels lmao 😭

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I'm a very very big beginner and I wanna make a deck for spelltable after I go to the lgs and buy some stuff :0 I wanna get some help on what I should look for there

ornate spoke
serene frost
trail cliff
undone anvil
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Hey guys! Any suggestions for ways to abuse MDFC stuff in a 5 color deck? I know Tetzin is good but im looking for similar effects to that. Commander is Esika of course.

mortal bay
rare escarpBOT
summer roost
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Updated my Merfolk lost with the new cards. I am so glad I already had a deck with all the powerful merfolk. The new set really spiked their value.
https://www.archidekt.com/decks/6340791/happy_tappy_mers

Archidekt

Kumena, Tyrant of Orazca - Commander / EDH deck
Merfolk • Tap/Untap
(1) Commander • (7) Artifact • (33) Creature • (6) Enchantment • (10) Instant • (36) Land • (1) Planeswalker • (6) Sorcery
Tap some mers, draw some cards, tap some mers, draw some cards. Wash, rinse, repeat.

This deck is all about tapping as many merfolk as possible for valu...

heavy meteor
mortal bay
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Gotcha, I knew casting was different, wasn’t sure if it was a Lier with Adventures type of case thanks for clarifying!

solid pecan
agile pelican
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How many lands would you put in a monogreen deck focusing on lots of ramp into mana doublers to play ginormous X cost hydras?

prime iron
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oh uh probably not much less than a normal deck honestly

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the only stuff i wouldnt put a good number of lands in (to me 33-37) is like, an elfball deck or smth you already got stuff tapping for mana that isnt lands

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also depends on how much ramp you run of course

median herald
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Trying to make a budget modern deck

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I usually play commander and this isn’t going to be my main format

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But I still want a deck that I can hold on own with

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Not trying to spend alot of money bc I’m married (and value said marriage)

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Here js what I have so far. Feel free to critique it and roast me

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Creatures:
3x sleeper agent
4x Nether Traitor
3x Prickly Bogart

Instants:
2x Soul Spikes
2x Dash Hopes
3x Feed the swarm

Sorceries:
4x sign in blood
4x Sovereign’s Bite
4x Fruit of Tizerus
4x Syphon Life
4x Vicious Rumors

Enchantments:
3x Okina Reckoner Raid

18 swamps
2 Castle Loctwain

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Don’t plan on a side board initially. But I’ll get one eventually

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Theme is mono black burn btw.

I respond to pings

vapid sierra
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My current iteration

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It's jank af and I mostly choose cards based on what I think would be funny instead of strong

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But I made silly stuff like 40 40/40 hydras a couple of times

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One game I got over 1500 green mana before I died because I had no card draw to spend it on lol

proper fiber
livid tinsel
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i’d probably take out reliquary tower instead
it doesn’t look like you have enough card draw to really need it
and emeria’s call can be a plains if you need

prime iron
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Is [(umezawa's jitte]] good in commander? It's iconic but Idk how much of that is commander

stoic chasm
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Anyone up to maybe help me make the last 2 cuts to my Brago superfriends list? There's a thread a few posts down with the link

proper fiber
open fox
tawdry hatch
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So I’ve upgraded the virtue and valor precon but there are three more cards that I want to add but aren’t sure on what to cut:
[[path to exile]] [[spectral grasp]] and [[setessan training]]
It’s very much a buff up [[calix, guided by fate]] voltron deck.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/sm09a-0pKEmJ8Wxy3IVUdg

rare escarpBOT
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Legendary Enchantment Creature — Human Druid
Constellation — Whenever Calix, Guided by Fate or another enchantment enters the battlefield under your control, put a +1/+1 counter on target creature.
Whenever Calix or an enchanted creature you control deals combat damage to a player, you may create a token that's a copy of a nonlegendary enchantment you control. Do this only once each turn.
2/2

leaden monolith
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can someone offer me an alternative to [[god's willing]] that can hit creatures I don't control?

rare escarpBOT
leaden monolith
rare escarpBOT
leaden monolith
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This is a good recommendation but I meant to specify color protection

livid tinsel
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yea idk if there’s anything like that tbh

leaden monolith
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[[bather in light]] all I can find from other recommendations

rare escarpBOT
steep phoenix
rare escarpBOT
solid pecan
mortal bay
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Has anyone ever gotten chat gpt to build a legal list

lean dove
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Just now:
Building a legal Modern deck in Magic: The Gathering (MTG) centered around the milling strategy can be both challenging and fun. Milling refers to putting cards from an opponent's library into their graveyard, thus depleting their resources and leading to a potential win if they can't draw any cards. Here's a sample decklist focusing on this strategy:

Deck Name: Modern Mill
Creatures (12)
4x Hedron Crab
4x Ruin Crab
4x Vantress Gargoyle
Sorceries (8)
4x Breaking // Entering (only Breaking will be used)
4x Glimpse the Unthinkable
Instants (12)
4x Archive Trap
4x Visions of Beyond
4x Drown in the Loch
Artifacts (4)
4x Mesmeric Orb
Enchantments (4)
4x Fraying Sanity
Lands (20)
4x Polluted Delta
4x Watery Grave
3x Field of Ruin
6x Island
3x Swamp
Sideboard (15)
2x Surgical Extraction
2x Crypt Incursion
2x Extirpate
3x Ashiok, Dream Render
3x Echoing Truth
3x Dismember

mortal bay
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Lol that's wild, i gave it a json list of rules for the format and it kept miscalculating the lands.

lean dove
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Are you doing it through their web UI or through API calls and perhaps using their functions calls?

mortal bay
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Web ui, I’m lazy and haven’t payed for API access. Just provided it raw text json, and corrected it for about 20 minutes. It could not learn from repeated instructions. It got color identity, curve, Typalness, total amount of cards. Nothing would get it out of this land list lol. It saw command beacon got into the list and was satisfied with making its user happy. Gave up on like the 100th attempt.

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I tried to make a [[Haakon, Stromgald Scourge]] deck and didn’t want to manually type in mono black knights lol.

I’ll look into API access, being able to properly handle input would be nice.

rare escarpBOT
rich fable
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i play an azorius spirit commander (millicent restless revenant). i have opened 6 jumpstart 2022 packs and got these decks: raid, gross, eldrazi, think again, scrying and law. what good cards are in these you think and what do you think i should use from these?

vapid scarab
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Now that I got Icon of Ancestry and Vanquisher's Banner and Herald's Horn from the pirate precon

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I wonder if I could also slot those on the Spirit precon from Crimson vow

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That deck already makes lots of spirit tokens

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Buffing them further sounds nutty

prime iron
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could someone please help me change this deck a bit? im changing it from mazirek to grist and im not sure what to drop now that its a bit less counter heavy

rich fable
slow lance
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Could some maybe look over my two decks. I´ve got some new and old cards in my Sideboards wich might be usefull to add.

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/QyRTt2BQLUaUu0Jnmudm6A
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/wOo8AZebQE2H3fjfe-pn6g

tawdry hatch
rich fable
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This or ash barrens

median herald
# rich fable This or ash barrens

I've only played magic for a year. I don't like either but if I have to. I'd run evolving wilds. You can crack it immediately. The other land you need to wait a turn to fix your colors

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In general I don't like tapped lands unless they can do something special like +1/+1 counters or tap for any color like Jetmir Garden

rich fable
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Thanks

proper fiber
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I mean it kinda depends on the deck I guess

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If you're playing a budget Landfall deck that you probably wnat evolving wilds

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Ash barrens as a whole is a lot more flexible, because you can also just play it as an untapped land when you need to

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They both have their pros and cons I guess

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Like say you need to fetch a blue source. Evolving Wilds can fetch an Island but you can't use it that turn. Ash Barrens can fetch one and lets you play it immediately, provided you haven't played a land yet

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In terms of speed, if you decide to fetch a land with ash barrens, they're pretty equal, but the fact that you can also just play ash barrens untapped imo gives it a bit of an edge

copper root
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hey, sorry if this is the wrong place, but where can I get deck checks or something similar? I'm wanting some help optimising a deck of mine

waxen forum
median herald
vapid scarab
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So last match with the Pirate deck it went well, but it killed people slowly and it made the match unenjoyable for the table, mostly because the deck has no trample or good evasion outside menace and some fliers.

So I thought about adding some evasion spells like [[Taigam's Strike]] and tappers like [[Sleep]] and [[Icy Blast]] so the pirates can get through. Maybe buff a [[Port Razer]] with Taigam's and Angrath's Marauders along with the typal anthems.

rare escarpBOT
vapid scarab
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Or just have a full swing after a full tapping

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If only to make the killing go faster

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Would that work?

last compass
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Wanna know because I want to join more optimized games instead of precon level, so I’m eyeing to buy this on card kingdom

gray yoke
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I'm silently brewing an Urza control deck, but I have no idea how to build an Urza deck other than mono-blue goodstuff. I need help ditching things so I can get down to 100. From a control standpoint, I really like having a lot of counterspells and enchantments like Propaganda and Back to Basics, but then that leaves less room for my artifacts and artifact creatures. I look forward to optimizing this build soon.

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/zyqGzHTUf0W9CscixHiXtg

tight cloak
verbal thunder
median herald
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so im building an osgir deck and im wondering if i should put in 12 pieces of ramp, the average cmc is 2.73 so its really low to the ground. i know osgir gets nuts with mana rocks but if i have nothing to spend that mana on it doesnt seem worth running 12

tawdry hatch
mortal ruin
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Any mono-black players here who are really good with brewing? Would love some feedback on a deck thats performing pretty well but I want to optimize it

rapid solstice
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can some people help me out with cuts? theres so many cards i love but idk what to get rid of

rapid solstice
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whats the deck list?

rapid solstice
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ill be real man i cannot read that 😭

bold rune
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Screw it

high gulch
fallen lava
proper fiber
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They're especially great with all all the effects that let you play lands from your graveyard

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With Azusa and Ramunap on the board, a fetchland represents 6 landfall triggers

rapid solstice
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quick! someone remove one card

proper ginkgo
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I am building a Pauper EDH Selesnya deck, can any one tell me why [[Crowd-Control Warden]] is not legal?

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My commander is [[Kutzil, Malamet Exemplar]]

rapid solstice
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It’s legal in all version though

proper ginkgo
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oh I think I figured it out. Moxfield is saying that it is not legal in Pauper EDH, but that might just be b/c it is from a very new set.

rapid solstice
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Possibly so yeah

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Just realized I forgot what pauper was LMAO I’m dumb

proper ginkgo
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lol no problem

unique stirrup
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I wanna make [[Gandalf of the Secret Fire]] as a storm deck, but I never play jeskai or storm, I am not sure, know many discount effect you want in the deck, I try to use [[Elsha of the Infinite]] has a guide not sure if I am just missing the point, any storm players here ?

rare escarpBOT
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Legendary Creature — Avatar Wizard
Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell from your hand during an opponent's turn, exile that card with three time counters on it instead of putting it into your graveyard as it resolves. Then if the exiled card doesn't have suspend, it gains suspend. (At the beginning of your upkeep, remove a time counter from that card. When the last is removed, you may play it without paying its mana cost.)
3/4

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Legendary Creature — Djinn Monk
Prowess (Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, this creature gets +1/+1 until end of turn.)
You may look at the top card of your library any time.
You may cast noncreature spells from the top of your library. If you cast a spell this way, you may cast it as though it had flash.
3/3

blissful mantle
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you could probably find some better cards than the ones you run for this outside of standard

rapid solstice
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So I’ve been wanting to make an [[Obeka, Chronologist]] deck for a while, but with [[The Master Multiplied]] existing instead would it be worth to use them instead? For a while I wanted my Obeka deck to be thievery, but a lot of the cards are at end of turn and not end step so i can use them. I was thinking instead to do myriad midrange but I don’t know if the master multiplied is more powerful for that? Obeka does have very strong things like cheaper extra turns like [[Final Fortune]] however, what do y’all think?

rare escarpBOT
proper fiber
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It depends on what payoffs you're trying to run. Obeka can be built in many different ways. if your goal is to run mostly Myriad and Flameshadow Conjuring type stuff, then Master multiplied might be a better choice. If you want to do other end the turn shenanigans, then stick with Obeka

rapid solstice
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Alright!

dry fable
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anyone wanna help me cut some cards?

obsidian perch
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Has anyone built and upgraded the professors krark and kydele deck?

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Looking for some suggestions

median herald
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Is there a blue spell that I can cast to rescue all of my creatures by returning them to my hand? I’m tinkering on a Temur deck. (The same one.)

It is a little… thin, but it is getting there.

normal kernel
#

[[Part the Veil]]

rare escarpBOT
median herald
normal kernel
obsidian perch
median herald
fleet sigil
normal kernel
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The flavor is immaculate. And it looks strong!

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You actually just inspired me to try and make my own samurai deck. Bless you 🙏

obsidian perch
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Hey all, I'm looking for cards like [[hexavus]] or [[raving dead]]

Cards with low power that have cool effects or enter with a lot of + 1 counters

rare escarpBOT
normal kernel
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So what’s gonna be a wincon for Delney? Am I hoping to overwhelm people with little guys?

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Ive been dying to make a mono white deck that can hold its own.

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I don’t have [[Moonshaker Cavalry]]

rare escarpBOT
zenith oasis
stoic sparrow
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Question for the big brain deck makers:

I run a modified version of the red/green precon deck from Neon Dynasty, the one who’s commander is Chishro, shattered blade. I modified it so it’s more focused on getting +1/+1 counters. Would it be worth it/funny to run a blood moon to troll my play group? I’ve got an anime wilds of Eldraine blood Moon I’m itching to use

Feel free to ping me if you have an answer. Thank you. :)

median herald
stoic sparrow
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Gotcha! I run a lot of dual lands as well, so it sounds like I’d be shooting myself in the foot.

median herald
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I'd you want to run Blood Moon, it's way better in mono-red, but does make you a huge target

stoic sparrow
eager forum
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I was interested in the revenant recon precon, but when I've been goldfishing I feel like it doesn't have enough ways to start filling your graveyard. Does anyone have any good additions for that in dimir?

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Also there's quite a few times where I have something in my hand that I want in the graveyard, would some looters be good in the deck to handle that?

normal kernel
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I finally got to 100 cards in my Delney list. Now— I know there’s plenty of cards other Delney players are running that probably aren’t in here.. in which case it’s because I don’t have them haha. But let me know what you guys think.

random plover
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https://www.archidekt.com/decks/6793500/scooby_doo
I prepared Sophia Deck but as usual I want to put to many cards, only 18 in sideboard so far 😄, so I looking for opinion

Archidekt

Sophia, Dogged Detective - Commander / EDH deck

(1) Commander • (1) Anthem • (1) Artifact • (1) Blink • (1) Copy • (8) Counters • (6) Creature • (13) Draw • (1) Enchantment • (3) Finisher • (2) Instant • (33) Land • (3) Protection • (12) Ramp • (1) Recursion • (6) Removal • (1) Sorcery • (7) Tokens

sleek blade
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Should I focus on copying artifact creatures or just making a bunch of random artifact tokens

celest rapids
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What power level would you say this would be at?

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Otherwise, what suggestions would you recommend on including or taking out of this deck?

tawny otter
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Are there any wincons in monogreen for lifegain or milling? Trying to see if you can do anything besides voltron with ((Strong, the Brutish Thespian)) since he's not in golgari

eager forum
# celest rapids https://www.moxfield.com/decks/8GmtVMzVL0GGXFvlN7yCHA

I put [[nesting grounds]] in to move the finality counters on opponent's creatures. I also cut thought vessel and reliquary tower because in a deck like this it would be useful to be able to discard big creatures, so the hand size limit can be a positive. To go with this, I added [[Jin-Gitaxias, core augur]] so I can refill my hand and get some stuff into my graveyard.

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/KJplTEWCB06uky1NxdvYPQ

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eager forum
turbid echo
agile marten
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TY

turbid echo
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I need to find a replacement for 1 copy of Hearse cause i cannot find a second copy in time

agile marten
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why are you running Farsight Ritual?

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i feel like Memory Deluge serves the same function much better

turbid echo
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I don’t own Deluge

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And i can’t find any

agile marten
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lol fair

river wolf
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i think i went too far. i got too invested in making a deck for [[anzrag, the quake-mole]] after i pulled my 2nd copy. now i gotta focus on cuts. Please help me cut things
https://archidekt.com/decks/6822849/i_dare_you_to_not_block

Archidekt

Anzrag, the Quake-Mole - Commander / EDH deck

(1) Commander • (13) Attacks • (3) Board Wipe • (14) Draw • (2) Extra Combats • (3) Finisher • (36) Land • (15) Lures • (18) Protection • (23) Ramp • (3) Recursion • (9) Removal • (4) Tutor • (15) Utility

rare escarpBOT
left quail
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I'm building sovereign okinec ahau as a commander. I put him together with what ever I had last night. It actually performed and got him to a 150/150 in a 7 game. So many ways you can go with this. Just trying to figure out what's most optimal

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Still lost but got 2nd

agile marten
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you played a 7 person game?

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i feel like that is not a good indicator of a decks performance

rare escarpBOT
normal kernel
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Good card

thorny trench
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I've got a Golgari Aristocrats deck im working on and right now I'm struggling with cuts. I've never played in these colors before so I'm not sure where to start
https://archidekt.com/decks/5956812/sivriss_squirrel_slaughterhouse

Archidekt

Cloakwood Hermit & Sivriss, Nightmare Speaker - Commander / EDH deck

(2) Commander • (10) Card Draw • (1) Finishers • (36) Land • (3) Protection • (11) Ramp • (4) Recycling • (11) Removal • (15) Synergy 1 (Squirrels) • (7) Synergy 2 (Sac outlets) • (11) Synergy 3 (Payoff) • (4) Synergy 4 (Grave stuff)

lime bough
naive prawn
# thorny trench I've got a Golgari Aristocrats deck im working on and right now I'm struggling w...
  • Mycotyrant feels pretty medium without more consistent self-mill or discard.
  • Prized statue probably isn't impactful enough if it's only there to be sac fodder without much other synergy.
  • Stitch together probably isn't as good as you think it is in this list. There's very few 5+ drops to make it good in the late game and not enough ways to ensure threshold is online in the early game.
  • Compy swarm has always seen like a mediocre card to me if you're not dino tribal. The tension of wanting to use them as sac fodder vs not using them because of exponential scaling (though the scaling is really slow and you're often times better using a scute swarm) feels wrong to me.
  • Hate to recommend cards when you're trying to find cuts, but I think the list would benefit from untap shenanigans like Sting, Glinting Dagger or Thornbite Staff to allow you to "storm off" with your tokens.

Happy to have a longer conversation if you want to make a unique post for the list.

thorny trench
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👍

normal kernel
tawdry hatch
obsidian perch
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Any suggestions are much appreciated

tawdry hatch
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Changed the direction of Judith quite a bit, now looking more at the imps because after it being mentioned quite a few times I realised, board wipe tribal isn't really fun to play against, and now I need to do some heavy cutting, Trying to get the wipe count to around 6 but not sure which ones to remove.
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/vOoLuWwJ30GBPUWR86gMEA

inland jasper
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Trying to run a sacrifice and reanimate deck with sengir the dark baron and Tormod as partners. I posted a thread but thought I'd drop it here for extra eyes. Is there anything I'm missing, Mana base, card draw, or synergy in general? I have a couple ideas for cuts so just some adds would be good 🙂

normal kernel
odd hearth
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i have draconic domination deck but would like to upgrade it on a budget of 100$ or less any help thanks

fervent stone
feral sapphire
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Anyone have good ideas for Boros angels commander?

lean inlet
wooden frost
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Hey Folks this is my first Orzovh Deck, my Playgroup and me playing really casuall Commander, what i mean is without infinits or really highpowercards like cyclonic rift or ad nauseum. Is there a Chance to find anyone here who build dekcs like we are and is intrested in talking about what can i do to make this Deck better° https://www.moxfield.com/decks/9UnO9HLQWE-iVWumHZrBVg
Ps:. im from Germany so plz ignore the Level of my Language Skills im good at Math

normal kernel
rotund hill
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I made a new deck with Belbe, Corrupted observer because of the new Emrakul and I would like some advice on If I should rune more protection or not and some good card draw options since i only have two consistent card draw pieces with guardian project and up the beanstalk but sometimes lose speed with the deck. this is the upgraded version as well and I do have a cheaper upgrade version but I'm only adding in Emrakul the world anew since I have most of the cards in the deck. Thanks for your help. .https://archidekt.com/decks/6905642/belbe_eldrazi_observer_upgraded

Archidekt

Belbe, Corrupted Observer - Commander / EDH deck

(1) Commander • (2) Artifact • (1) Copy • (1) Counters • (1) Creature • (2) Discard • (1) Drain • (7) Draw • (2) Enchantment • (1) Infect • (33) Land • (1) Landfall • (2) Lifegain • (8) Pingers • (1) Protection • (20) Ramp • (1) Recursion • (11) Removal • (2) Stax • (1) Tokens • (1) Tutor

rich gust
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Hey! Anyone have suggestions for cards that give you stuff when you are being targetted or affected by stuff? I saw a bunch of cards that get me stuff for being attacked, and wonder if I can make a Tanking deck lol

tawdry hatch
rare escarpBOT
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Legendary Creature — Human Noble Soldier
At the beginning of combat on your turn, another target creature you control gains haste and myriad until end of turn. (Whenever it attacks, for each opponent other than defending player, you may create a token that's a copy of that creature that's tapped and attacking that player or a planeswalker they control. Exile the tokens at end of combat.)
5/5

tawdry hatch
sage stream
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before the doctor who set came out

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what do you think?

proper fiber
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well, it's not gonna hold a candle to any modern deck played in the meta.

sage stream
rare escarpBOT
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No card found for “Ojer Axonil, The Deepest Might”

proper ginkgo
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I put together a mono red burn deck using [[Ojer Axonil, Deepest Might]] , while looking at other peoples decks they are using snow-covered mountains, but none of there cards interact with snow-covered lands from what I'm seeing. Am I missing something, or just dense?

rare escarpBOT
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Legendary Creature — God
Trample
If a red source you control would deal an amount of noncombat damage less than Ojer Axonil's power to an opponent, that source deals damage equal to Ojer Axonil's power instead.
When Ojer Axonil dies, return it to the battlefield tapped and transformed under its owner's control.
4/4

Temple of Power
Land
(Transforms from Ojer Axonil, Deepest Might.)
manat: Add manar.
mana2manar, manat: Transform Temple of Power. Activate only if red sources you controlled dealt 4 or more noncombat damage this turn and only as a sorcery.
Chimil gave the Oltec passion. Ojer Axonil challenged them to harness it.

left quail
rare escarpBOT
proper ginkgo
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Nice thanks

feral sapphire
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Anyone have a good partner to go with [[heart of krosa]] ? Maybe one color combo that lets infinite Mana to have an army of lands ?

rare escarpBOT
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Legendary Creature — Human Druid
At the beginning of combat on your turn, creatures you control get +3/+3 and gain trample until end of turn.
mana1manag: Until end of turn, target land you control becomes a 1/1 Elemental creature with vigilance, indestructible, and haste. It's still a land.
Partner (You can have two commanders if both have partner.)
5/5

desert fiber
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Anyone have reccomendations for simply the biggest artifact creatures there are, at a low cmc? Downsides don’t matter, I just want the biggest of metal bois at the smallest of prices.

feral sapphire
halcyon wasp
feral sapphire
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Anyone know fun mono white commanders to run? Any of the not top 5. Wanting something different than [[myrel]] as I'm going to disassemble my deck of her for the Caesar commander deck

rare escarpBOT
indigo quail
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How do i make my post visible with like a picture and so on? when i try to link my decks from moxfield my text just gets to a uggly link with nothing else... ? xD

feral sapphire
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It should be automatic, sometimes it doesn't work

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Like my posts just now

strange steeple
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What is the objective with commander in terms of deckbuilding? My friend built his first commander deck and it’s definitely scary but gets countered pretty hard by one or two removals or board wipes. That also Being said I want to try and build from ground up as well but I’m not sure what to balance my deck around

feral sapphire
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You like a mechanic in magic? Find a commander and build around it. Like a creature type? Build a commander around it. It's honestly just a creative format to let you express yourself and play decks and cards you want to. Weather it be jank and fun or competitive and fine tuned, there's something for everyone

scarlet sundial
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I'm working on my first sacrifice deck for edh. It's going to be BGR, I'm going for either prossh, ziatora, or korvold.

As I understand it, there's two ways of running this type of deck, as control or "midrange".

I've decided to go for control, and I'm having a hard time selecting payoffs. I know you generally use grave pact and dictate of erebos....

But are there any others I should be looking out for? I'm shooting to have at least ten permanents that serve as sacrifice payoffs.

graceful helm
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Don't know if it would count as control, but Agent of the Iron Throne and Mayhem Devil could work.

strange steeple
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Does anyone know fast initiative decks?

normal kernel
proper fiber
proper ginkgo
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I recently acquired an [[Old Stickfingers]] . are they a decent commander? or better in the 99?

rare escarpBOT
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Legendary Creature — Horror
When you cast this spell, reveal cards from the top of your library until you reveal X creature cards. Put all creature cards revealed this way into your graveyard, then put the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.
Old Stickfingers's power and toughness are each equal to the number of creature cards in your graveyard.
*/*

strange steeple
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If I’m running a restriction goad deck (wars toll, winter orb, smoke, ghostly prison)
What should be my wincon if any. i do run plargg/agusta to allow me to untap whatever I please

summer roost
graceful helm
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My wife wants to build a mono blue Merfolks deck but I have little experience with blue and no experience with Merfolks. Any good deck recommendations I could check out to get some ideas?

strange steeple
opaque iris
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I havent seen a lot of merfolk decks before, but i have noticed that simic seems to be the color pair that works the best with that type

prime iron
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Could I get a pair of eyes on this deck? I'm not super used to burn decks and am relying on edhrec for much of this

normal kernel
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Do y’all think this seems pretty balanced for a casual deck?

prime iron
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I think it works but you should get more card draw

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In my mazzy I run [[season of growth]] and [[tanglespan lookout]]

rare escarpBOT
prime iron
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Oak of the ancient wood seems kinda iffy

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Tale for the ages seems like a win-more in mazzy too imo

normal kernel
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Thank you for the recommendations 🙏 and yeah I had those cards laying around so I threw them in to fill spots. Notes taken for sure

tawdry hatch
strange steeple
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What is the best way to discover more cards besides having them@played on me

prime iron
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Edhrec.com has lots and lots of cards and tells you how popular they are from each other, it also has a random feature if you just wanna see something new

north oriole
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Oops

feral sapphire
proud smelt
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are there any mono-green cards that are warstorm surge-esque?

feral sapphire
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None to my knowledge. Best bet is to look up the Oracle text on scryfall

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Just checked myself, less I typed it in wrong there's zero in green. Direct damage stuff like war storms usually only in red

proud smelt
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Alright thanks!

dusty pilot
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hello, do you have any idea how to build around [[slogurk, the overslime]]?

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[[slogurk, the overslime]]

rare escarpBOT
proper fiber
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Play a bunch of self-mill and bounce effects to get slogurk back to your hand, have some landfall payoffs ready

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Alternatively, play a lot of fetchlands and land sac

left quail
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there are really good land sac ramps you can use

rare escarpBOT
feral sapphire
rich fable
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Can I run [[struggle for project purity]] in a Millicent tribal or are there better draw options.

rare escarpBOT
proper fiber
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I mean you "can" run it in Millicent, sure. But I do think there's better draw. Blue has tons of card draw

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what card draw are you already running?

rich fable
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Winged words, distant melody, Bident of thassa, Gerald horn, ethereal investigatr, bigone bishop

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And herald horn and distant melody

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I only have budget for four pounds a card

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Max

proper fiber
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[[$coastal piracry]]

rare escarpBOT
rich fable
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Nice

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Thanks

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I’ll get both this and struggle. Rhystic too much and I don’t think there’s much other options

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Unless they’re just one time use

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Is preordain fine you think or is it underpowered

prime iron
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Cuz it's a very solid card normally

rich fable
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Power level 7/8

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I have a copy of it

rich fable
prime iron
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Idk what numbers mean lol

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Just play the fun cards you want

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Every person in this server would point at something different for an 8

rich fable
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as in good enough to beat precons and slightly upgraded decks ,but not crazy competitive

proper fiber
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it's a cheap spell that digs decently deep and replaces itself. It's great when your deck is built around casting multiple small spells during your turn, but if you're just adding it to dig, then I'd rather run a card that draws more cards

rich fable
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Makes sense

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Yeah I’d probably rather play coastal and struggle then. The good thing about struggle is that it just give you three more cards each turn , cause the opponents drawing isn’t a may trigger

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It’s a forced trigger which I think makes it busted

feral sapphire
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Anyone know good Boros cards that are straight Vikings not just from kaldheim? Wanting to dona viking equipment deck with the new [[eivor]] from the assassin's creed set

rare escarpBOT
left quail
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so you wana run blood-forge battle axe with that for sure

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as well as brass knuckles

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[[bloodforged battle-axe]]

rare escarpBOT
left quail
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[[brass knuckles]]

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[[brass knuckles]]

rare escarpBOT
left quail
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[[forge anew]]

rare escarpBOT
feral sapphire
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I said viking cards as in creatures lol

prime iron
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Yeah you're gonna be limited to kaldheim and what, ice age?

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They weren't vikings but there's probably some creatures that fit the vibe

feral sapphire
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That works too. It's more so just a fun deck to pay homage to my family. I'm like 53% Scandinavian so figured this be a fun way to honor it

dusty pilot
naive prawn
rare escarpBOT
bright anchor
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I need the deck help.

strange steeple
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Trying to build a [[Safana, Calimport Cutthroat]] [[Imoen, Mystic Trickster]], either or, goal is just fast initiative turn around, fast dungeon turn around, stuck with what background to use

rare escarpBOT
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Legendary Creature — Human Rogue Wizard
Ward mana2 (Whenever this creature becomes the target of a spell or ability an opponent controls, counter it unless that player pays mana2.)
At the beginning of your end step, if you have the initiative, draw a card. Draw another card if you've completed a dungeon.
Choose a Background (You can have a Background as a second commander.)
2/3

naive prawn
tawdry hatch
keen temple
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Trying to decide on a new Rakdos commander. One of the newer ones. Judith and Rowan I’ve seen a few times, wondering if anyone has any other suggestions? Including the actual new Rakdos.

prime iron
rare escarpBOT
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Legendary Creature — Minotaur Performer
mana1manabmanar: Note the name of target instant or sorcery card in your graveyard and put it onto the battlefield face down. It's a 3/3 creature with "Whenever this creature deals combat damage to a player, you may create a copy of the card with the noted name. You may cast the copy without paying its mana cost" and "If this creature would leave the battlefield, exile it instead of putting it anywhere else."
3/3

prime iron
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Spellslinger stupidity

keen temple
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My current Rakdos commander is [[Hidetsugu, Devouring Chaos]] - it’s fun but a very fragile clock. I used to play [[Mogis, God of Slaughter]] cause I love group slug stuff. Just looking for something newer along those lines (there seem to be a lot of legendaries that are better in the 99 than as commanders)

rare escarpBOT
keen temple
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The new Rakdos looks GREAT. But kinda stumped where to begin. Like writers block.

prime iron
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Well you could run group slug and have a ton of politic effects, "you can either let me draw a card or take 3" type stuff, not too sire how to build that in rakdos, I mostly stick to the other pairings

lofty karma
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If I post a deck list anyone mind giving me their opinion no what power level it is?

wraith onyx
normal kernel
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How consistent does this deck seem?

lost edge
normal kernel
lost edge
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Of course. Btw that is a very creative Commander

prime iron
strange steeple
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If I were to make a commander with [[empress galina]] would it still be edh or be more cedh leaning, and would it be "fun" to play against

rare escarpBOT
feral sapphire
rare escarpBOT
proper fiber
# strange steeple If I were to make a commander with [[empress galina]] would it still be edh or b...

I don't think Galina really makes for a great cedh commander. There may be some wacky combo where you make everything legendary and gain control of everything, but compared to what broken stuff is already played in cedh, Galina doesn't really hold a candle to that.
"Is it fun to play against" is subjective. A general sentiment among most casual players is that having stuff stolen is "unfun" when it happens repeatedly. So having a commander which screams "I can steal your commanders whenever I want" will probably make you a high target from the get go, even if Galina is relatively slow.

slim raft
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Does anyone have play experience with the "More than you Yargled For" deck?

It looks really fun, but does it actually work? Or is it mostly just a one-trick-frog-spirit?

feral sapphire
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Was the OG mono black one

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But changed it into my Post Son of Rich deck

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Also zombie tribal

slim raft
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Uh, interesting.

Also, sorry! It's this one 🙂 From profs "build your own precon"-video.
Yargle and Multani:
https://archidekt.com/decks/4441982

My own version is here:
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/rL8FpmO5lU-uDmLXHMXEqw

Following a point that salubrious snail made in a video about too complicated decks: this has a simple and transparent gameplan, but still with some tricks to back up the big violent frog.

Archidekt

Yargle and Multani - Commander / EDH deck

(1) Commander • (8) Artifact • (20) Creature • (5) Enchantment • (13) Instant • (36) Land • (16) Sorcery

prime iron
normal kernel
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First of all— the flavor of this deck is immaculate. Great job on that, I love it. Secondly, I’m not an expert deckbuilder so I can’t offer much in the ways of recommendation, but from what I can see the synergy is great and it looks like it has a solid plan.

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@prime iron

prime iron
opaque iris
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what vehicle commander would work well if I wanted to alter and make a deck around Formula 1 / Racing cars?

rare escarpBOT
opaque iris
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oh yeah i could see it

feral sapphire
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Plus it takes a cool spin on it

opaque iris
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potentially

prime iron
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[[Depala, pilot examplar]]

rare escarpBOT
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Legendary Creature — Dwarf Pilot
Other Dwarves you control get +1/+1.
Each Vehicle you control gets +1/+1 as long as it's a creature.
Whenever Depala, Pilot Exemplar becomes tapped, you may pay manax. If you do, reveal the top X cards of your library, put all Dwarf and Vehicle cards from among them into your hand, then put the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.
3/3

prime iron
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She likes vehicles and dwarves and that's all

opaque iris
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wow

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magda would go crazy in that deck

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tap dwarves to crew, those make treasures. Sac those treasures to tutor for any vehicle you want

prime iron
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Doesn't magda only tutor for dragons?

opaque iris
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dragons or artifacts

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[[magda, brazen]]

rare escarpBOT
prime iron
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Oh fuck

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She's better than I thought

opaque iris
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yup

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she busted

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I have her in [[Mr house]] so I can tutor for cards like [[alibou, ancient]] or [[cybermen squad]]

rare escarpBOT
opaque iris
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not using her for the dwarf stuff, but using the treasure tutor to find specific cards and even getting some value out of it

feral sapphire
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I been debating using Magda as my mono red commander. Never could figure out the best balance of dwarfs and dragons. I was thinking maybe 7 or so of the best ones than the rest being dwarfs

opaque iris
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Ive seen mono red vehicle decks with magda. Tap dwarves to crew the vehicles, and then those make treasures. Treasures could be sacced with madga to search for better vehicles. If you are stuck with good vehicles in your hand and dont want to tutor through magda, the treasures are there for you to ramp into those pricy vehicles in hand

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another helpful tip for decks like this; you can over-crew vehicles. If a vehicle says "crew 2" that means that you need to tap creatures with power equal to OR GREATER than the crew value. This is put in place to avoid issues like only having 3 power creatures but a vehicle with crew 2 and not being able to crew it. This also means that you can tap as many dwarves as you like in order to crew vehicles. if you have 5 dwarves and 1 vehicle, you can tap all of them to crew that one vehicle even if it has a low crew cost.

dusty pilot
feral sapphire
feral sapphire
opaque iris
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depends how crazy into the theme you want to go. with magda its possible to sprinkle in good dragons that just do well on their own, but adding vehicles to tutor for means that they can also tap dwarves to get more treasures from magda

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dragons that make treasures or make use of treasures/dwarves would probably be my only suggestion

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terror of the peaks, goldspan dragon, cavern hoard dragon

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that kinda stuff

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I would include [[maskwood nexus]] in it because that means that your vehicles also become dwarves when they get crewed and if you are tapping them to attack with them, thats even more treasure

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opaque iris
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same thing with dragons in that case as well

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A cool detail I take advantage of is that both magda, and the treasures she sacs for her ability dont need to be untapped for them to work. you can tap magda to crew, and you can tap treasures using cards like [[clock of omens]] to tap treasures to get additional value out of them before you sacrifice them to magda

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[[crime novelist]] is a great card in any treasure deck

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buoyant whale
feral sapphire
restive pebble
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I'm looking for a full on Mario party experience for a deck. Something that just makes gameplay unexpected, anarchic, and gives everyone something new and unexpected to do.

This is what I have so far. I have line item vetoed Descent Into Avernus. What other goofy, fun for the whole table cards should I get for this Naya deck? https://archidekt.com/decks/6064583

Archidekt

Rocco, Street Chef - Commander / EDH deck

(1) Commander • (1) Creature • (12) Draw • (40) Land • (1) Planeswalker • (1) Proliferate • (4) Protection • (2) Pump • (15) Ramp • (1) Recursion • (10) Removal • (10) Tokens • (2) Tutor
Getting infinite combos, typically with Jinnie Fae and Prosperous Partnership + some token doubler.

Additionally,...

green python
restive pebble
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[Blinkmoth urn]

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[[blinkmoth urn]]

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restive pebble
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I'm much more interested in getting things that enable other people to play more things from exile, because that's a lot of positive mechanical intercation that my deck with this commander would take advantage of.

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So Blinkmoth Urn is in the right direction!

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Eladimir's Vinyard as well I suppose.

But putting in more table-wide mana boosting effects is less useful if I only have Share the Spoils and Rocco giving people extra free cards to play from exile.

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Are there any other cards I can put in to get effects similar to Share the Spoils?

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Not just screwing with the the draw step and putting THAT into exile, but giving the players additional cards to play each turn.

tawdry hatch
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restive pebble
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I'm also interested in any spells that allow other players to make decisions, or take game actions that are beneficial for me, or possible beneficial for me. I really like the offering and technique spells, for example.

frigid plover
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need to come up with some good interaction/answer cards for my skeletons, but not sure what's a good ratio of answers to engine.

normal kernel
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Let me know if there’s anything I need to change. Leaning more into the detective theme with a lot of extra clue synergies. I also want the deck to survive without the commander on the field, since it’s such a target for removal.

frigid plover
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is there a rule for how often one can post about a particular deck? I posted about my skeletons yesterday, but barely had an idea what direction I wanted to take it. I finally put together an actual build, and edited the post, but I'm wondering if I should just make a fresh post or not?

feral sapphire
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I got a dumb idea I wanna do. Mono white group hug with [[yes man]] as the commander. I need ideas as I've never done a Group hug deck before

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feral sapphire
restive pebble
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restive pebble
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Sorry I can't go to it atm, at work. Wierdly they let me use discord but web access is limited.

dusty pilot
echo vector
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would [[helm of the host]] be any good in [[caesar, legions emperor]]

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Legendary Creature — Human Soldier
Whenever you attack, you may sacrifice another creature. When you do, choose two —
• Create two 1/1 red and white Soldier creature tokens with haste that are tapped and attacking.
• You draw a card and you lose 1 life.
• Caesar, Legion's Emperor deals damage equal to the number of creature tokens you control to target opponent.
4/4

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proper fiber
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I often see people drop Helm of the Host on the board but then not have enough mana to attach it, and then it or the creature they then move to attach it to get blown up before it gets to do anything

normal kernel
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Mono white good stuff with humans and some food tokens.

left quail
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Sword of wealth and power in sovereign okinec ahau commander deck. Doubling pump spells.

proper fiber
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is there a rule regarding decklists for unreleased commanders? can you already make threads or do you have to wait for the actual release?

celest rapids
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Planning on building my fourth commander deck now and the Commander is Shorikai. Any tips and advice on how to build it would be greatly appreciated because this is the first time I’m going for a token/artifact/vehicle strategy.

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What do you guys think about [[obeka, splitter]] with [[the tenth doctor]]

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No card found for “obela, splitter”

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Legendary Creature — Time Lord Doctor
Allons-y! — Whenever you attack, exile cards from the top of your library until you exile a nonland card. Put three time counters on it. If it doesn't have suspend, it gains suspend.
Timey-Wimeymana7: Time travel three times. Activate only as a sorcery. (For each suspended card you own and each permanent you control with a time counter on it, you may add or remove a time counter. Then do it two more times.)
3/5

trail mason
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She should be pretty fun with a suspend theme

feral sapphire
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What are some good cards I can use to get the most value for the boast ability in Boros?

honest ice
normal kernel
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Does anyone have any pointers for someone building their first mono black deck? Budget recommendations for the most part, please lol

The commander I have in mind is [[Chainer, Dementia Master]]

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prime iron
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Mono black loves to feed into itself get the basic stuff that's in everything but green like solemn simulacrum and wayfarer bauble, then [[crypt ghast]] [[Cabal coffers]] [[Cabal coffers]] [[dark rit]] [[Cabal ritual]]

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prime iron
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You might wanna get some stuff that mills your opponents for chainer

trail mason
foggy kindle
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Been working on this for the longest time

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it always wins in 10-12 turns in my testing but I wanna speed the progress

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I've been running less lands but I think that's not the issue

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am I running too much of something?

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There was actually a game where I was close to winning but I didn't have something since my hand was empty

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really need help pls this deck is important to me

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quick deckbuilding companion rules question, I was checking out EDHREC for a deck, and even though I have the theme marked as a companion, it still suggests the same companion in the 99.
If you have a companion, can you have the same card in your 99 still, even in EDH?

naive prawn
normal kernel
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So is [[Rocco, Cabaretti Caterer]] often the host of a secret commander?

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prime iron
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prime iron
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It's really just norn with red stuff and then a few white blink spells and some green ramp

lime yoke
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slate ore
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Sorry, I realized wrong channel, should be in format focus commander.

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https://www.moxfield.com/decks/VCmtizXcz0OM1EE1rKKL7g
Grist commander Umori Comp, I'm trying to mill multiple insects per turn, focus is on grist and going for quantity of bugs more than quality, I really really wanna turn 2 grist despite not having many lands so I've got 6 mana dorks in the deck. Should I cut any more lands or should I cut some of the few non-bugs to add more bugs?

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https://www.moxfield.com/decks/FtdF7ZU69UifV6-sRHO6SQ
My first attempt at an aristocrat type build with [[Kels, Fight Fixer]] at the helm. Any and all feedback would be appreciated.
The main goal of the deck is to get as many [[blood artist]] type effects on the field as possible then loop creatures that can come back from the graveyard such as [[Nether Traitor]] and [[Reassembling Skeleton]] to get card draw and to draw into more value pieces such as [[Jadar, Ghoulcaller of Nephalia]] or [[Ophiomancer]] to consistently make tokens that I can sac.
To control the board I've added cards like [[Butcher of Malakir]] and [[Grave Pact]]
I'm thinking of adding more targeted removal though as it is lacking as well as a board wipe so any suggestions for one in dimir colouring would be amazing.

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Weird question, but I'm new to the game, and haven't played so much yet.

Is it a good strategy to build around a commander combo that takes up 5-7 tutors and around 8 (redundant/overlapping) win condition/combo cards, and have the rest deck do something completely different in order to stay under the radar and not be a threat?

Example, I'm currently looking at [[Obeka, Splitter of Seconds]]. Let's say I found a win condition with [[Court of Embereth]], and all I need for it to work is one (or maybe two, depending on the situation) of 8 other cards that I've found (and of course, my commander has to be on the battlefield, without summoning sickness, and she needs to be able to attack someone).

If I build a deck with all the suggested cards from EDHREC and YouTube, I feel like I'm making my self a target right away. Those recommendations involve a lot of janky and potentially awesome (but not always reliable) things to happen during my upkeep. Venture into dungeons. Create a bunch of 5/5 dragons. Draw a bunch of cards. Drain life. Mill your opponents. But none of those cards really win you the game. And they make you a target.

What if the deck didn't have those suggested cards at all. During your game, nobody will spot any "at the beginning of your upkeep" cards on the table, they see no threat. You're playing another type of deck with other types of synergies that does not involve your commander being a target at all.

Then, hopefully, with enough tutors and card advantage, you get your win condition/combo with the janky "at the beginning of your upkeep". Until now, you have done no upkeep shenanigans.

The problem I guess, is that the rest of the 85% of the deck would just be about grinding out your opponents, lots of interaction, lots of counter spells, lots of removal, some casual friendly pseudo-stax, but no real way of winning. 85% of the deck would just be there to keep you alive until you get win condition.

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And I understand that there are better ways to make a deck that just grinds until you find a better easier winning combo. But I like the jankyness of this one 😆 And it's not important which commander or combo we are talking about. I'm mostly asking about the strategy of building a deck where 80+% of the deck is not in direct synergy with your commander or win condition, it's just there to grind and give you cards and interact with others in a consistent and reliable way. 15%-20% of the deck is sort of sneaky, and deceptive, and will not reveal it self until you can make it work 🤔

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plush pendant
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I'd really like to brew a deck but once I start I get bored and never finish. Do you have some advice for me?

wraith onyx
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how do i build a deck Bottom to Top?

river wolf
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I first made this decklist 5 years ago with the premiere of the Guild Battle episode of Game Knights (Josh's first time playing Boros). The true commanders are Judith, Carnage Connoisseur and Firesong and Sunspeaker. I think I've been able to update/upgrade it so I can finally build it on paper. All suggestions are welcome. https://archidekt.com/decks/7293954/mardu_spellslingers

Archidekt

Licia, Sanguine Tribune - Commander / EDH deck

(1) Commander • (2) Burn • (1) Drain • (14) Draw • (34) Land • (8) Lifegain • (5) Protection • (14) Ramp • (2) Recursion • (16) Removal • (2) Tokens

naive prawn
# sharp blade And I understand that there are better ways to make a deck that just grinds unti...

That's a fine way to build a deck. The higher up in power you go, the more of your deck is built around tons of removal surrounding a couple ultra efficient "engine" pieces. I will point out that the "surprise" of your strategy will only work so many times before people catch on and start just hating you out of the game even when you don't appear threatening (I'm all to familiar with this hahahah) because they aren't sure if you have the win yet or not and they'd rather not chance it.

normal kernel
naive prawn
# wraith onyx how do i build a deck Bottom to Top?

Choose a handful of cards that you definitely want to play and then design the rest of the deck around making those cards as optimal as possible. Maybe that means finding ways to minimizing your average mana cost if you're building around [[dance with calamity]] or something like that.

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wraith onyx
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Or atleast 2 of them but not as your commander

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like putting in Nylea and Thassa into one deck

naive prawn
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yeah, totally possible. You'd likely want ways to ensure you can find them

wraith onyx
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So i'd need Tutors. So gotta include Black into the deck so i got access to as many as needed

naive prawn
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Green has good creature tutors, white has good enchantment tutors, blue can draw cards like no one else. You're not forced into black

wraith onyx
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Three aspects of colors i didnt know about

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So, Thassa, Nylea and Heliod.

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Which heliod do i use though? Cause theres the normal one and the Compleated version

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and also the Revisited Theros Gods

naive prawn
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I can't really answer that for you, that's all preference

wraith onyx
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so as i have now decided, im gonna use Nylea Keen Eyed, Thassa god of te sea and Heliod sun crowned

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Those seem like the best for the purposes of godly powers

naive prawn
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For reference, the chance you draw one of three gods after drawing 20 cards is 51.10%, but that number jumps up to 76.68% with 3 tutors which feels very doable.

wraith onyx
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so i should have the deck separated into Thirds right? like one third does Nylea stuff, the other does Thassa stuff and the other does Heliod stuff

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and then sprinkle generically good cards to boost its overall power

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That would make thematic sense, but you'd likely end up with a deck that doesn't do much when put all together. There would be a high chance you draw pieces from each strategy that wouldn't harmonize very well.

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It's usually better to design around one central theme like "enchantments" and then sprinkle in a few cards for flavor for each of the three

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They are enchantment creatures thats true.. But what can i do with enchantments except Voltron?

naive prawn
wraith onyx
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so i can make a pillowfort, control the board/accumulate resources, and ramp myself.

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Hmm.

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And card draw in general

unique stirrup
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so , buy the new izzet deck and my heart scream i need to win with [[Thousand-Year Storm]], and i feel like the new [[Stella Lee, Wild Card]] will be very Combo Heavy, it is my best option just play [[Veyran, Voice of Duality]] ?

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tawdry hatch
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naive prawn
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It's mostly there for a fail safe, because at my lgs quite a few people have commanders that have 6+ toughness or deathtouch/indestructable so it's there for those kind of situations

naive prawn
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naive prawn
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And first strike probably handles the deathtouchers anyways?

tawdry hatch
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Deathtouch with indestructable, I should'be been more clear, my bad

left quail
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Someone critique my deck?

tawdry hatch
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I don't really get the point of arcus acolyte as it's just slow and there are better cards with effects that have creatures etb with counters instead, Land tax really isn't worth it in green, the only way this is good is if you have that as the only piece of ramp in hand, other than that it's just a dead draw, instead of kodama's reach I would recommend natures lore or three visits (realistically you want to be running both) so that you can search for Lush portfolio or canopy vista, Wild defiance is just bad unless you're focussing on combat tricks but you're only running 11 by my count and for it to be worth it you want to be running at least 20 on the low end.
This is just on a first glance but other than that it seems solid.
Som things I'd recommend to add are [[Arwen, weaver of hope]], [[champion of lambholt]], [[fertilid]], [[mirri, weatherlight duelist]]

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tawdry hatch
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[[Tuskguard captain]] and [[court of garrenbrig]]

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tawdry hatch
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[[Defiler of vigor]]

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tawdry hatch
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From my experience playing green +1/+1 counter decks these are in almost all of the ones I've built with some exceptions due to budget restrictions but other than that they make these kind of decks much more consistent.

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Also [[Tributary Instructor]] makes the deck a lot more resilient to board wipes as it allows you to refill your hand so you don't run out of gas

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left quail
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Would you be willing to help with cuts?

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I have champion of lambholt

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And mirri

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Miri

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So arcus I'll dump for champion

tawdry hatch
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wild defiance, ajani caller of the pride, luminarch aspirant, mikaeus the luminarch, case of the trampled garden

left quail
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You think ojer is good in here

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I could add green suns zenith as well

tawdry hatch
tawdry hatch
# left quail I could add green suns zenith as well

I'd say it would definitely be worth it, but if you're going to start adding tutors you may as well go the whole 9 yards and add [[worldly tutor]] [[natural order]] and [[eldritch evolution]] just to make it that much more consistent

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Also [[sylvan tutor]]

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left quail
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I have the other creature tutor as well

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Worldly tutor

tawdry hatch
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Something that I also should've added earlier is [[kalonian hydra]] swing, stack the triggers so that soverigns goes off first, kalonian becomes an 8/8 then have kalonian go off and it becomes a 16/16 trampler

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tawdry hatch
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not too shabby if I say so myself

left quail
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Then next turn it 1 shots

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Pretty much anything

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[[hydra's growth]]

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left quail
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I need to put a list of these singles together so I can order them

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Id like to have as much trample as possible, definitely a sub theme