dreamy nymph
I spoke a bit about this in #just-chatting, but I'm running into a strange issue where previously successfully converted images suddenly turn back into flat images.
Unsure how to reproduce, I've just been adding images one by one via the Go app and the last three I've added, after the Go "syncs", got converted back to flat images.
Serial # is LKG-E04111 and here's a link to one of the pieces of content that got unconverted, as example: [snip]
After a bit more sleuthing in the Blocks app, it seems like they're being put to a lower depth value automatically for some reason?
yeah this other one I'm looking at got completely flattened in Blocks. When I turn up the Depth slider the selected depth focus I chose in the app is clearly still there
*also after turning it back up in Blocks, it updates on the Go and seems to be fixed
Not to say this bug is fixed, just that a workaround has been found in the meantime 😅
young crest
@dreamy nymph you didn't change the Depth to zero for this Block in the mobile app?
dreamy nymph
nope
via the Go app (on Android), I uploaded an image, and edited it to adjust the values how I liked. Then later when trying to add more, after syncing again it would appear flat. Checking the blocks website shows that it kept the choice I made for the actual depth focus in the app, but completely flattened the Depth value itself
young crest
It preserved the Focus value but not the Depth value? Is that right?
dreamy nymph
yep
dreamy nymph
Pixel 9 Pro XL on Android 14
dreamy nymph
Also, I need to play with it more, but in some cases it would just set the Depth value low enough to appear flat, and other times it'd be set to flat zero
young crest
okay, its certainly possible that it is a bug
The next time you upload and then edit a new image, let me know what the default Depth value is...
if you don't mind
dreamy nymph
will try now and see
My only stab at a guess at what could be happening (as someone who has zero clue how the system is built haha so maybe disregard) is some sort of sync disparity between the app and Blocks. Like the app is sending data but Blocks overwrites it in some kind of conflict when attempting to sync
young crest
Well, practically speaking, anything is possible. But we take great care to ensure that user input is the only source of edits and that syncing is a read-only process (with the only exception being the device reporting for its remaining storage capacity)
dreamy nymph
wait, oh my god, this might be 100% user error on my part
I think I've just been misunderstanding the effects of the Depth slider on the app, made more clear now that I've been using the Blocks app more.
young crest
Oh?
Admittedly, the app doesn't do a super great job visualizing the impact of the depth slider on the resulting image. We had a better version but it was pretty slow to render on older phones
dreamy nymph
oh yeah, I've totally been cranking down Depth on the app on some images because I think visually it made me think having the image closer was better? There isn't really similar feedback where you can see depth being added as good as on Blocks
oh god lmao
young crest
Yes, true
dreamy nymph
well now I feel a lil dumb haha
young crest
heheh, its brand new tech! You have to try it out to learn how it works
The depth really is a function to control the separation of background from foreground. But I don't make that many depth edits. I spend more time editing the Focus, personally
We also allow you to tap on the image itself to select a Focus value and I think that makes it pretty convenient
dreamy nymph
The focus UX is def nice, though it did take me a bit to get a handle on what the best focus point is for each image (still not 100% but I'm sure I'll adapt with experimentation)
On depth, I think any kind of non-image visual that could somehow illustrate that the image layers are increasing in distance would help tons. Now that I know how it works it feels like a bit of a "duhhh" moment, but at the time as a brand new user I genuinely thought the image being visually closer would be better
young crest
Yes, agreed
Using a layer-based rendering technique will probably be faster on mobile devices too
dreamy nymph
what might work is the image fading out slightly, and a wireframe box behind it that increases in visual depth size away from the main image frame as you turn up Depth? Low depth would appear like a thin rectangular prism, and high depth would look more like a box
(sry I work in UI for a living so I can't help myself but shoot off some ideas 
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either way, thanks for the assistance, even though it ended up being on me 