#Ride the Cyclone
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🤔
yes 😔
people really like rtc; I just got a tumblr ask about it earlier today
rtc as 4th base script when ‼️‼️
rtc is awsome
Aight folks, it's time. I'm wanting to replace Dreamer but idk what to do it with so any suggestions?
Current random options:
- Amnesiac
= Super flexible. Decent Boffin Ability. ✅ Little time to solve. Cop-Out? ❌ - Bounty Hunter
= Good Boffin Ability. Dreamer vibes ✅ Weird with MM-Jinx. A lot of evil pointers. Xaan sadness. ❌ - Chambermaid
= Kinda Dreamer like. ✅ Too strong/more like an FT though. ❌ - Engineer
= Very wild suggestion but world limiter in a way. Ok-ish Boffin ✅ Would probably need a 5th Minion to really make it feel better and that has issues ❌ - Investigator
= Good with silent Minions. Balanced by Xaan. ✅ Is Investigator. A lot of YSK ❌ - Philosopher
= Was on here and good. Great Boffin. ✅ Not really filling gaps of Dreamer. Pixie on script ❌ - Undertaker
= Finds hidden Minions. Good Boffin sometimes. ✅ Think Cannibal is better.Doesnt shine enough ❌
- Virgin
= Not bad Boffin. Can find Minions. Interesting with Xaan ✅ Even more confirmation that even Boffin is a lot. ❌
"Is Investigator"
for ease also
i stand by my comment
BH and Philo seem to come out best in this list and also have both been on before
I don't know if it's that weird with the mm jinx
It's probably not super weird
it feels a bit like chambermaid
Wdym
ok what is weird to you about the MM-Bh jinx
just spell it out to me like i'm 4
bc maybe we're thinking of different things
MM-AlHad jinx can only pick good players so not getting the exact choice of players you want because 1 of them was BH turned can be a bit weird
ye
But it might not be too bad in practise actually
i think its fine
and how I'd run it is like chambermaid picks a dead player by accident
i think in practice it's fine
If BH came on, do I keep Shugenja 🤔 probably not
so why do you want dreamer off?
Paradox bluffed Dreamer as the Al-Had and he lost ||/j||
trueeeee
It's never been the best fit for the script because it doesnt have as much to shine. With only 1 Demon type it's not an interesting world limiter beyond Minions, so really it becomes a confirmation character but only for Day 1 & 2. It can find Damsels if good but nothing much more.
tbh, i dont even really think that character we talked about @wary scroll would be the best lol but maybe
ok
Another question
Why did King+Choirboy come off?
i guess it's poor for boffin
it came off earlier than boffin went on
I think one reason is that I didn't want to explore that interaction. King Choirboy Al-Had is a very interesting trio but I think I wanted just a more solid Al-Had script at the time
That's fair.
I think it is an interesting trio still, but it doesn't interact that well with boffin sadly
Could they come on? Idk really. I dont think they'd feel off but yeah only King is an ok Boffin ability and Boffin has a strong foundation
What gaps would you want this cahracter to fill
A confirmation character/something that doesn't point a whole lot?
That is a good question. Dreamer came off but I dont really know if a confirmation character is what I want.
I think at a Minimum it should be a decent Boffin Ability
There a bunch of characters which don't work, but ye, at this stage script making becomes painful
Something that the demon could either use to confirm itself or use to deduce better kills
w/o a spy
Bounty Hunter is cool honestly
Maybe, but Like I dont think you ever have time to make a reasonable shot
N2 is like the only time
Maybe I try it though lol
depends on how willing your damsels are to die
which is
very willing
But in theory, which is just in the strictest sense
In theory
Which may not play out at all in practice
But if you don't shoot N2 and there are no damsel dead claims after D2
Eh let's try it lol!
You can probably rule out the other two people picked by the Alhad
So your shots are more consistent
Well confirmation chains are powerful
and the outsider mod does make it a decent boffin ability
but ye, get other opinions if you so desire :P
am I hearing RETURN OF GENERAL
but I do like huntsman
boffin-huntsman to modify the outsider count is a classic
huntsman enjoyers unite!
oh autumn congrats on the pronouns 🎉
I'm thinking SC miiiiight work here. Might.
Snake has been on here before
It is something to be congratulated on
I don't quite remember why Paradox took it off?
When i was looking through the tool, that was something I also noted
maybe because it sucked
I don't think it works as well as the ones Paradox mentioned
Snek isn't as good w Boffin
(Though... it might be good in another way in theory)
It does a funny interaction where the demon picks themselves and just gets perma-poisoned.
It's like the self-picking Pukka
On a budget
It didnt have the outs at the time for a successful swap so a lot of the times a Swap was just game over. No madness, nopit-hag stuff. Even alt win cons at the time weren't consistent. MM helps a bit but issue is that original demon can out that and more effectively play around
Oh. You ruined it.
If a Snake Charmer charms the Demon early
The Boffin can give the new demon an out of play bluff
So it is indirect synergy
congrats!
Yeah, ignore me. SC does not work here.
join the she/they legion!


ok fun but ye let's help paradox make this script even better!
I really like it as a Demon finder but it doesnt quite work yeah
I do think try out Huntsman
it's confirmation when it hits :)
also it's fish/hp/savant synergy + stellar cannibal food
And it's a character that is very willing to pretend to be a damsel when dead
I really love Huntsman. It's a shame that the Outsider mod part of it makes it pretty disliked
Okay, this is kinda out of left field but what about FG?
Flowergirl?
Yep
Not great for boffin
deletes Fang Gu from the script tool
Which is a minimum for paradox
Well BH is coming on instead of Dreamer
But also, Flowergirl with a demon that can't move is very strong
I just want to take Shugenja off cause it's a lot of YSK evils
It's fine on SnV because you have Pit Hag/Fang Gu
I think Boffin has plenty here. Puzzlemaster, Fisherman, High Priestess, Savant, etc.
So another character doesnt need Boffin synergy (but better if so)
ah no huntsman?
oki
Idm BH either
No no there's 2 spots yeah
boffed huntsman is fire
Oh two spots?
add a damsel
Dreamer -> BH.
Because BH is coming on, Shugenja is coming off, so something for Shugenja
Ohh
1 thing which is... something
Huntsman turns even less trusted
Bc you will get Storytellers run a Bounty Hunter turned Huntsman with +1 Damsel
idk if that's bad in practise. It may even be fun
god forbid anyone has fun playing this script
Honestly, I'd rather have BH-turned Huntsman than a BH-turned HP or Savant.
Those are a lot scarier.
BH is like double boffin lol
Yeah, they work with the same townsfolk.
like
Now a High Priestess which seems a bit off
Could be the Demon
Or the BH turned townsfolk
And BH turned townsfolk could try and frame themeslves as a dmeon
A great thing about BH Boffin too is that you dont ever have to show the teammayte
Wait, I've got it! Juggler!
Solo Demon
Strong Boffin ability,
no
Good BH turn
So the Juggler just juggles 3/4 players as the Alhad
Juggler has had this journey so many times lol
Oh right, not enough misinfo to cover for that
but if Summoner came on 👀
Artist is busted because it can do that.
Juggler is wonderful on scripts with more than 1 demon
Summoner
Is...
Well actually it's kinda awesome
Summoner is a little loud here, doncha think?
summoner feels really strong
ikr its awesome
Huh
So it can fake a summoner night
I need to watch the wiki more.
I dont think Summoner is coming on anytime soon fwiw, ooh look a Tiara!
WHERE
I am just repeating what others say
Idk if it is actually strong
Nightwatchman? That might work.
On that rotating ride of horses and other weird animals sometimes
Banshee fills that niche
Nightwatchman is OK, but also Nightwatchman Boffin isn't that good a combo
this, too, is an Utena reference (watch Revolutionary Girl Utena)
It proves you aren't a Minion, but it doesn't disprove you are a Demon
And also Nightwatchman+Bounty Hunter means... ok you got a ping but you don't even know if the Nightwatchman is good
also boffin
Yeah, that's nerfing it too much. Back to the drawing board.
I am just going over why these aren't perfect
paradox you should add poppy grower
wild how that happens
paradox you should block bhamber
Al-Had can't kill the Poppygrower
paradox you should add LoT
I can't be sure
that's my mystery
Darn it
I can't oppose this
I am the server's #1 LoT enjoyer
ok maybe that's not true
But I can't escape it
so true
the true night vision goggles experience 
paradox you should add ||llongjawn||
omg speculation!!!!!!!!1
1
i did suggest homebrew to Paradox earlier and he beat me up
ngl
didnt paradox make a hb version of ride the cyclone
i do think he wants this script to be playable on this server (homebrew not allowed in pickup games)
with that mushroom minion
Btw, how long has this script been in development?
Sounds about right for most scripts.
This is more important than a baby
wait it's only slightly older than CS? I thought this was around forever
no rtc is relatively new
i mean
I get that it's a newer Alhad script
but i didn't realise it is a p baby one
Well I'm stoked for this new RtC
Don't mind her
[Clairifcation: this is my own opinion] High Priestess is a dysfunctional townsfolk that can't be run well without its ability being "Each night, learn a player" or "Each night, learn a good player" as well as it being exclusionary to the neurodivergent group of clocktower players who can't social read in the manner that HP requires.
She just is under a curse to diss high priestess for 1d4 years.
it was a wizard wish
Version 5.1
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The dreamers of the world have been replaced by rugged hunters! Lots of fun boffin abilities here and definitely interesting to see where it goes!
Second part of this opinion seems pretty unpopular on GS
GS?
Grim Scenarios likely and not a convo to continue in my forum :3
King does seem like it could be a fun addition at some point. There's no need for a Choirboy with this evil suite
To protect the King from an early night death. The Al-Had can't force that
wouldn't choirboy be super strong here
And I think King's decision making becomes more interesting w Choirboy
king self kill 🔥
like technically the demon can just never select the king, but this also semi confirm the king
Yeah? Like the Demon knows who the king is
The King doesn't know if there is a Choirboy in play
And if it isn't, then it's a great pointing bluff that wastes a day
You know who else doesn't get picked? The Al-Had 👀
mind blown
alhad get pick all the time 🔥
that's why good won so many game
Then so do Kings 😁
i think king always do suicide strat here though, 50% chance to end the game immediately
maybe an Alhad bluffing king will at last give the Alhad an excuse to stop picking themselves

truer word have never been spoken
But yes, I don't think Choirboy is necessary on this kind of script. It's confirmation that the King is real, which can be good, but if that dynamic is too strong it works fine without it on this style of script imo
but yeah, i think the thing that distinguish king versus alhad is king almost always want to die, while alhad always want to live
though a minion bluffing king would be super funny
If there's no Choirboy on script why would a King pick die? You're a blank token if you do
no im talking if it's king + cb
Bounty Hunter Boffin feels good :)
BH-Boffin feels unsolvable
Then burn 😎 🔥
Mez used to be here iirc
It's less strong that that
it did
Yes, but people world build around that. A boffin-BH isn't likely to be considered
and that was in the era of mez Snakecharmer
There is a flipside to it though
Interactions which were concerning like Mez-Banshee
Now can be avoided by good Storytelling
Village Idiot, High Priestess (ehhhhhh), Savant, Fish, and even Cannibal to a degree can help find secret evils.
Plus you argue that it isn't likely to be considered but I think it's something folks should be aware of - Boffin BH, Puzzlemaster, Village Idiot (depending on ruling) are those fringe things that help.
Honestly not really a bad idea to send an HP to an evil TF as they’ll probably fumble something
I think that considering a boffin-BH is like playing around a self-poisoning Widow.
In that town never does it, but they really should
self poisoning widow doesn’t usually have a mechanical effect aside from “the demon knows who everyone is”
I've ST'd a game where the Demon used the chance that a solo Village Idiot would be Boffin Drunk and won the game. If players want to acknowledge it they can and should but not gonna be end of the world if they dont
Skill issue
or they’ll use that to mean their information is very important and when they don’t slip anything evil instantly wins
oh i mean tbh the last game of RTC where Boffin Bounty Hunter happened the Evil TF simply just bluffed true VI info and did nothing
it’s not as strong as long as you don’t show the demon who the evil TF is straight away
force a minion to die first 
oh i mean it was a game of all time for distinct other reasons
Yep! Showed Pixlate the Mastermind first and could still easily have shown the Al Had themselves but went with showing the now dead evil VI
the banshee picked live 😭
It was a smart move!
2 base 3 characters on this whole script
And one of them is completely reworked bc of the jinx
Insane
Nuooooo
It's okay when the expansions come out we can swap it
Carousel will solve it 🙏
Man, I’ll need like a coach to guide me what swaps to make
Imagine out disappointment when we find out the new 3 scripts are just the base 3 with bigger marketing
Can't improve on perfection
Is there a particular reason why shugenja and dreamer are swapped with bounty hunter and huntsman?
Also is the premise of this script that it's a constantly changing script? Or are the changes just for balance?
Dreamer was the role coming off the script because I felt it's potential wasn't being explored enough- just beign a great Boffin ability but kinda too strong role/terrible bluff. With Dreamer coming off, I wanted another good Boffin ability and Bounty Hunter seemed like a great fit. Shugenja and BH then filled similar niches so I opted to have Shugenja come off and that made space for another role in which im trying Huntsman in
I see. Hm cuz I wanna print out the script for my group but don't want to have to constantly print new versions. I also dislike bounty hunter so I might settle for 5.0 until 6.0 comes out lol
Most scripts change all the time
At least ones which are being refined
I feel this though 😭
Scripts can be so unpredictable when they update
The scripts I've printed out are pretty set in stone so I'm just looking for things that are pretty set/well tested enough that any new version works
Oh also what's the premise of the script? I don't get the name
Ride the Cyclone is a musical I’m a fan of which has noticeable characters like a fortune telling machine with a guy in a fez as well as a banshee like character
But for he most part it’s just an Al had script
I see. Thanks, I'ma try the script out
It's an al had script which, ever since the release of boffin, had a strong focus on boffin
It has puzzling minions, and Al Had is a very interesting demon
It is always dramatic
I see, interesting
It’s also the script that made me realize the Al-had MM jinx is good actually
personally i say 7 jinxes upon ye
i think Ride the Cyclone could do with more jinxes
bhamber was invented by big djinn to sell more jinxes
back to the lamp w you!
didn't we agree RtC was a boffin script in a fez :p
bo
idk
Hermit???
funny innit
Plague Doctor -> Hermit?
might be a bit boring to have a damsel who can choose to die without a major downside. i think id usually nom myself d1 or d2 and that makes it a less interesting bluff too
True
bo
The only time a golem is outsider

paradox think about it
the dynamics of princess when the al-had, al-had wants to abstain to not confirm princess y'know
but
that means players can bluff princess to get the effects without need of princess
AND boffed princess means the al-had can just not abstain if they wanna and be seemingly hard confirmed?
and as such, al-hads will wanna not abstain sometimes and hard confirm a princess so that people build the princess boffed as hell
No
why not :(
fair enough
i like how everyone has reacted to princess with “meh”
Good won
Im not sure how to feel about BH on this script, i wonder if king is better?
oh was this an exe
yes
all evil f3 but banshee in play so the evils just outed and did a dorito
Boffin BH?
yes
Yeah when i see an actual BH I’ll mske judgement lol
like para why am i always the boffin BH on this script
Useless mastermind strikes again
Banshee gaming is fire though
idk BH has so many failure points
like any name could be xaan drunk so i question the net utility of the BH as a TF in play
Did Boffin BgH see the evil?
and also PM drunk
Boffin BH saw the MM
Ok good
but the Evil HP saw the Al Had d1
the demon dc'd for a while tho so they couldnt coordinate
but it couldve easily been 4 coordinated evil votes
i think king is a neat experiment here
Or Boomdandy
paradox the king can see good roles as well 😭
it can learn there's an al-hadikhia in play
true!
like i just think that solo king has a really cool play pattern with al hadikhia in particular
since it needs to live to learn its info anyways so it REALLY wants to greed with Al-Had
Y’all we’re under a time pressure now 😭 RtC is hopefully going on the BotC Scripts Page
Hmmmm maybe King is the Dreamer replacement I wanted
that game was so weird tbh
?!?!?!? holy hell? paradox big W?
bhamber you knew this
oh i guess i did so true (i didn't)
anyways paradox believe in the pixlate method of intution
What if I do Huntsman for King
no 😭
As a compromise
dog 😭
the issue with a coordinated bounty hunter is that town has much fewer executions
On the flip side, the game allowed for coordinated BH
ok but that's boffin BH
No it’s not lol
regular BH feels like too low a payoff
“Dawg”
I think BH’s fine
sure
i just want solo King to work 😔
Huntsman for King is cool
but like maybe run regular BH
Huntsman’s neat but meh I don’t think the average player will use it right
cuz all the BH games have been Boffin BH as far as im aware
Yeah
to me huntsman is cool as a boffin ability
It is
there has been 1 good Boffin BH script and its NVG by Axo
But like I want huntsmen to have a decent chance to find the damsel sbd on this script I don’t think it’s likely
You have to shoot N2 most of the time
i mean tbh the real utility of huntsman is that a good player knows to do damsel cover
Yeah but the average Joe doesn’t know that
solo al-hads fairly popular in customs tbf
you dont see it all the time but like
people like it
RtC is the only Solo Al Had script i know
Reptiles
Not if you run v2 lol
moreso than an al had script
solo al-had is the primary form of al-had script
Midnight Oasis moment
It’s a stormcaught acript really
mo is a weird script
this is true
i mean Double Whammy (after Paradox) exists but that's a meme script
oh and there's The Toom
princess i think is actually actively bad here
the King beckons
it's aura, but sure
Let’s bring steward back :)
RAGHH NO
Ok what if I try King and I try Princess (if Princess ptobably change outsiders too cause allergic to jinxes)
tbf about princess that jinx isn't even real anyway
Yeah but it’s still a jinx
you can just like go over it with that like what's the thing called where you put it on paper
to hide a typo or something
but yeah just photoshop it out lol
I don’t think a whole line of text can be a typo 😭😂
TPI-ex
ex-TPI...
What if…
Huntsman -> Princess
Damsel -> Klutz
PD -> like Snitch idk
Al Had picking themselves on Princess night is interesting
Princess MM is a little cheesy but 🤷♂️
isn't that fine lol?
With Al-Had jinx it’s more rerack friendly if you wanna consider that
Mechanically yes but like gameplay way
oh i see like mastermind bluffing princess and stuff?
I've played with it it's actually really bad
Maybe with alhad it's different
It’s probably better
But with normal demons it means princess procs are basically never worth it
well mastermind is like almost a different character with al-had lol
Because Al-Had has to pick
i think you're winning here
But sorry Pixlate you lose Bounty Hunter stays on
cause you're gonna see a really fun interaction. hopefully
👀
👀
wdym wait what are you doing
Rose Bride reference :(
could there be room for Hermit with Golem/PM/Klutz?
Ehh technically yes but I’m more content with Xaan flexibility
And I’d want to encourage evil to obfuscate that bu being able to claim outsiders more freely
Hear me out:
Ick
Ick
it had come to my attention that princess would have brought the jixn count up to 4 (shh bhamber) so trying something with changing out Cannibal for Amnesiac. Cannibal is neat for sure but not core so seeing what Amne can do. Yeah Amne's the flexible role but with now Princess, it gets more time to act and solve as well as idk Boffin Amne is probably cool
ohhhh that princess/amne IS a good interaction!!!
btw i'm not a fan of princess interrupting the eaches... i don't think that looks nice :(
it's a bit of a cop-out role but hey sue me
:0
fuck amne princess is such a good interaction
yoinking it as a possible TPOT interaction if I need to change any townsfolk
princess joining with this update is like the main barrier from amne just being a cop-out
i think as long as it's noted to make amnes here solvable quickly, it's cool
1 weird thing about Princess is that it's another role that can reveal a Xaan 2 but like not in a bad way
What am I missing that Princess has so much synergy with Amne?
another day to guess
Ah right, a successful Princess extends the game by half a day, sure
Sobbing because there's still no King
dw sean i keep trying to convince para
amne is also especially flavorful on this script given the name
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Someone, not naming any names bhamber, convinced me that Princess is cool on this script and I think it will be maybe. And with every update, a few things get updated. The Huntsman-Damsel duo are coming off because I don't think this is the right environement for them all in all. And that lead to changing up the Outsiders slightly to help with jinxes too - giving the Xaan flexibility but also underlining the importance of them bluffing Outsiders! Cannibal is also coming off to reduce jinxes and that it's also not the most necessary to the script- and Amnesiac takes its place because Princess gives it another day to solve and Boffin Shenanigans can be fun!
these two look so similar from a distance and it confused me for a sec
What is the jinx for al-had and princess?
it's basically "the al-had and princess work as you'd expect"
truly a marvel of jinx design
Also, my printer is crying at Paradox 😛
It's not me who's making you print these 💅
lies, I am a King 👑
@fathom magnet
#1 stan right there
i think the reason for the jinx is because of al-had’s “if all live all die” so its just saying exactly what has been said already
anyways the real question is when will there be a queen
or a prince
or a duke
an earl
a baron
Not discussion for this channel 🫶 check out #speculation-and-spoilers if you're interested
i know </3
game ended d3 when the alhad picked themselves and all players picked live 😔
it was a noble strat tho
Savant Info:
D1: BH turned TF woke up due to their own ability N1 OR Boomdandy neighbors an outsider
D2: Longest Chain of TF is 3 OR The Puzzledrunk player would learn a Shugenja Clockwise
d1: t/f
d2: t/f
How did Princess feel
And Snitch actually
AND OMG AN ACTUAL BOUNTY HUNTER
@soft plinth this is vital data!
oh sorry im back
ok so
princess feels bad here
like the only things that can prevent it are xaan 2 and PM
either of them are such specific worlds
Snitch seemed fine
the snitch bluffs were Preacher Puzzlemaster and Fisherman
Did the Princess trigger?
i think Xaan took PM and MM took fish
yes
Or did the Al-Had "abstain" as bhamber said
oh i keep forgetting they can even do that
i mean
oh
spicy
ok i like princess more here since its actually somewhat bluffable
however that did not happen 😔
because I think the upside of getting an extra night and day of info is the aspect tht makes Princess better
i mean princess is definitely very strong here already
its basically a virgin
(of course not if the alhad abstains)
anyway
i really liked BH here
idk if it was just this game but it helped town avoid a xaan 2 night
and people started figuring out that the evil Vi was evil
they did kill the BH day 2 since balloonist learned the MM then the BH
but they got half the evil team first
so pretty strong
unfortunately the game was cut short because the alhad thought MM triggered from night deaths 😭
which tbf is a mistake many people make with MM
anyway i still think Princess is too oppressive here
because evil team doesnt have any counterplay besides "ST fiat" or "sink"
but its definitely better now that i remembed alhad can abstain
yeah that's the weirdness in it being "doesnt kill"
i really wish it was "doesnt wake" but alas
I'd definitely like to test it more; i think i'm ok with it being kinda strong because it's early game strong
mhm yeah
this is only 1 game
and this is my new favorite paradox script ever since you masacred the other one 😔
jarvis post the godfather gif
this is like if i posted ST deluxe and said " its not bad trust you need to play it first"
#event-listings message Running a Scheduled Game for Princess Update
Nice game :)
No princess proc, good snitch times, @wary scroll flubbed an easy win, yeah1
i will lose the game for my evil team if it means losing the game
i meant "reading socially good"
but evil did still win that btw
evil alsaahir is so mean wtf
basically a blank evil token
yeah >:3
evil paradox
sometimes an evil blank token is fine
Oh Thorn did guess bhamber and Mayan as Minions and Samobi as the Demon D1 lol
it's okay if there was a heretic he would've won
But yeah I approached Thorn and said "hey im doing something weird, you're evil"
and you can either claim something else and just be weird or just be evil
I put Ride the Cyclone 5.1 on the GS recommended script list
1⃣ It's Not A Game, It's Just a Ride
2⃣ This Dream of Life is Never-Ending, It Goes Around and Round Again
3⃣ Your Lucky Number is 7, You Will Soar to Great Heights, Be sure to ride The Cyclone
4⃣ A Death Drop Like No Other
5⃣ We're Just Sailing Through Space!
6⃣ Nah these suck try again
what Tag-Line do y'all think I should give RtC :3
1⃣ 3
2⃣ 3.5
3⃣ 4
4⃣ 4.5
5⃣ 5
1⃣ 3
2⃣ 3.5
3⃣ 4
4⃣ 4.5
5⃣ 5
Also cause why not, what do you think the difficulty of RtC generally is. I'd personally go with 3.5/4 Storyteller and 4.5/5 Player as there's only a small handful of roles that require really pertinent action as the Storyteller but for the most part just requires you to know how to run interactions; but playing it can be quite a challenge to know where to risk it and where to play it safe etc- limited executions, Miniosn being very annoying etc
I’ve only ran RTC once and it was a while ago and it’s been updated a lot since then, I remember it being about the same difficulty as I would expect from an intermediate level custom script
So a 3.5/5 is probably accurate
after playing RTC 25+ times, it’s not thaaaaaaat difficult hmmmm yes yes
I think princess version does bump it up a bit though cause the cool interaction isn’t immediately obvious
I don't think I'd go lower than a 4 for player difficulty
I feel the same way about Waluigi's Moustache but I set difficulty ratings via a survey i have the GS stream team fill out and those are the numbers i got (although i will have them re rate scripts if enough people bring it up during an update survey)
Damn 😔 4️⃣ is winning but it's also not a line from the musical
That's why I voted for everything except 4 😢
I might ignore the poll and go with the one I want then
I also really dislike 4 lol
For me, it doesn’t set the tone of a wild ride
Death drop seems more like a short snappy game rather than the wild ride on the cyclone
I just didn't get the vibes of the others, probs because I haven't seen the musical
go watch it 
i think if your intention is to tailor it to the vibe of a musical that most ppl voting on the poll haven't watched you should just make the tagline whatever you want
yeah
https://discord.com/channels/569683781800296501/1389919674132861019
Running this in longtext
Ahhh how do o spectate again I am naive in text games
I can add you to kibitz (the spectator channel)
that would be great!
How close to completion would this script be? Im making a collection of scripts with all available roles, and this would be very nice for the Princess checkbox 🙂
I’d say you should be good to take this most current version 👍
cheers! If youd like i can make a version in photoshop more in line with the official scripts
I won’t stop you as I know others have made designed scripts and I certainly will too 😌
I have been waiting to re make ours lol
Thinking about running it at our in person events again soon.
This version should be all good 😂
I don’t fully believe you 😛
Correct 😌😂
that’s what i’m SAYING
King gang rise up
friendship ended with Boffin BH now Boffin King is my only friend
@abstract socket @stark agate hold off I think 1 small change might need to be made lol
Mostly Pixie is awkward without Damsel atm
So swapping it off for like Washerwoman is what Im thinking
Yeah, it's either WW or Steward and I think WW is cooler here
@wary scroll i summon thee
washerwoman is cooler but steward is more bluffable outside of the boffin
I think that's fine
It's either Pixie to WW or Cannibal
And I think for early info and similarity, WW
First draft of the backside. Im struggling to find a good rollercoaster themed image that is not a direct Ride The Cyclone image (like this) or AI
yooooooo i love that; very thematic 🙂↕️
no that's freaking awesome love the approach
... or do I do Pixie -> King ...
Have these changed with the new ||Cacklejack?||
I think the most flexible one would be Deviant
Generally a list of decent Travellers include:
and I do think the new one
Recommended and what I'd put on the sheet would be probably be these ones with Deviant replaced for CJ if you prefer
I like 🙂↕️
if there are any changes; can still swap and change everything 🙂
@lime vapor @ashen mango @azure jewel why King, why not something more immediate like WW?
the King wants to live when Al-Had picked, the WW doesn't
it's a more interesting dynamic with the rest of your Townsfolk
But most games the King learns like 1 name no?
☝️ 🤓 um, actually, the king learns characters not play—gets shot
I mean, sure, but it's typically really good info if the King lives to get it
and it's not limited to learning Townsfolk, meaning you can confirm the Golem
or confirm that it's a Xaan game
et cetera et cetera
it's a worse Boffin ability though compared to like WW 🤔 hmmmmm
It's a tradeoff
no no don't be reasonable Autumn 😂
WW is better boffin
King is a better Demon bluff
The full collection 🙂 Enjoy peeps!!
also like CB less King is kinda goated
King + Al-Had is just fun, and doesn't need Choirboy, and King info is more nuanced and interesting than Washerwoman
The Boffin having to survive most of the game to give nice evil-King info is unfortunate, but an acceptable price to pay 😌
brother just do it trust the process
Wow Paradox is a King hater, clearly thinks the character is never fun
oh hi sean
Just you wait until Pixlate, axolator, and myself release Ride the Hurricane and it becomes more popular
Here's a script and JSON folks can use for King version and I'd definitely wanna test it. I just didnt have King on previous versions because I didnt think it took the spot of anything but with Pixie's madness being out of place now (as I dont really like Damsel on RtC ngl) and roles like Philo, Cannibal, UT being meh lets add King now
wait since when did RtC have Amne 😭
since Princess added
king no choirboy is crazyyyyyyyyyy
it has Princess now 😭
but like speak your truths king
dog i was fighting for just original RTC but -BH + King
ohhh true true
the ORIGINAL?
nah BH stays
all the way back to the start??
damn V1 RtC was wild 😂
nah
Like (exluding Al-Had cause duh) 7 roles here are on the original version but I'd bet like only 2/3 have ever stayed on always
the version i have in my head
POISONER NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Yeah Savant, Fisherman, Banshee, High priestess, Al-Had have never come off
it’s fine paradox there were like 5 minions ever back then
Knight
Pixie
Preacher
Alsaahir
Huntsman
Dreamer
Village Idiot
Savant
Fish
Banshee
High Priestess
Golem
Damsel
Puzzlemaster
Plague Doctor
Boomdandy
MM
Xaan
Boffin
Al Had
i’m missing some TF but you get the vibe
Nah Dreamer wasn't ever going to stay. I wasn't the biggest fan of it- without differenet demons and saying X is Y in a Z world etc it's just a confirmation character
which is boring
it’s cool with xaan
Huntsman and Damsel are also meh. Like the Damsel's great madness cover but I don't think it's ever really a reasonable win con for evil; sure the Savant and Fish and stuff could help find and avoid it through Boffin but it takes 1 pick to have them die at night. And Huntsman basically has to shoot Night 2 into a player who wasn't picked if they wanna turn it
Choirboy could come on fwiw with Xaan. It was removed off old versions because evil's kinda doomed if it happens but with all the Minions there's a reason learning a name doesnt mean executing that player
NWM?
hmmmmm Amne -> Choirboy?
Banshee, Princess, and Golem are the hard confirmed ability roles
but then you can’t be a fiend :0
That's fine 😂
tbh i think NWM is more interesting than Banshee
Wow you just have to give in to mainstream propaganda huh
since it interacts more coolly with Xaan/Boffin
Banshee is really really cool but it solos Xaan so hard
Banshee is not coming off script.
which is fair it’s really cool
Snake Charmer
Bottom line. Like no.
Snake Charmer was removed because a successful charm was just game over for evil
and i think it still is
you kinda need a madness suite
and i dont think RtC is a madness suite script
that’s what I’m doing for my upcoming Al-Had/Wraith script 😎
RtC is a how much do I want to tell the truth sorta script
Wraith goes hard
Pixlate...
it’s peak with Al-Had but not here
you're crashing
Yo Wraith waking when an evil is asked to live or die is kinda sick
IKR???
like the Al Had can pick themselves last with 2 goods
and have a better sense of what to do
??
- your Wraith telling you that the previous 2 picked live at night is very funny
what wraith is good for is minion nukes
yes that works
not Al-Had themself
but Wraith is not RTC-coded, I’ll make a post for my script later so all the cool discussion can happen in there 😎
back to king choirboy
idk anyways RtC is always to me a script about greeding for One Day More (TM)
so like Balloonist and King is peak RtC
this is why princess is so cool
on this script
right but i’m not sure about ODMTM being assured by the princess or having to be fought for
Boffin Choirboy sucks right? But Does Boffin King mean a Choirboy can be in play?
the answer should be No right but Jams says yes?
idk just say it’s no
Jams said that she made that ruling in a hazy delusion
I think Jams said it was a yes but was like tired and went and said "oh wait no that doesnt make sense"
there’s lot of nuance in that conversation
Okey
(she said she was tired when she wrote it and said it was “funny at the time” but use group discretion)
I wouldn't do that anyway because sob
sometimes the botc answer is do what makes sense
*most times
(this was about Huntsman +Bod Damsel)
@stark agate @abstract socket apologies these guys are roping me in to making more changes 💀
true
nah keep it as is imo
King! King! King!
don’t lemme pull in more BH dissenters and King Lovers
I can see the argument for king choirboy
I kinda like King though... it has that niche of confirmation that Pixie/Dreamer/WW do but explores the theme of living longer RtC has
BH aint leaving Pixlate 😂
it’s cooler dreamer
It is Cooler Dreamer
yeah I ain’t going anywhere
dog BH is low utility 😭
that’s me, the bh ounty unter
true…
you’d need to change the BH meta for this script in particular
Just BH turn the BH and show them themselves
cuz the BH most times sees max 1 real evil lol
pixie -> king, amne -> choirboy could be changes
just get rid of pixie at any cost
dawg we gotta compromise somehow
Choirboy is that compromise
Solo King is crazy and bonkers and insane and shameful
nah you can keep Amne i fw it
nah it’s like
sure you want the Kingfo
but the King is evil
and oops people keep dying to let the King get info
so you pick live
and oops you’ve killed the King
fair enough
I would be interested to see how Solo King plays
But they better not be learning Al-Had on night 4 is all I’m saying
If the ST wants to laugh in the face of the King then shame on them
So what are the changes? Hahahahah
I think atm instead of Pixie -> Washerwoman it's Pixie -> King
so not many changes actually
But I think King is really interesting here
weird, but interesting
Yeah no Choirboy
Choirboy shifts King into just a full King script which whilst cool I think isn't a direction I want
whereas, due to the nature of Al-Had, a solo King on it's own becomes a different flavour (similar to MM and even Princess to a degree)
Hmmmmmmm
Wierd but intresting indeed haha
Then it would be the task of town to safe the king, not just choirbot
very chess-like
quick, add the bishop! /j
ehhh I've yet to see a Princess use their ability so it wouldnt change anything
truuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuueeeeeeeeeee 🔥
solo king is fine here with Alhad
damn that takes me back
i remember being the mez or RtC and not coordinating with my demon who would say the mez word and so we were both outted evil d1 by saying “Vortox” to people
can someone link the oldest version of RtC
Is it just such a early draft? Ahhaah
this is v1.0.0 on botcscripts
KING MY BELOVED
oh no
what do you mean oh no 😂
I was new to script building 😂
(also a billion other things but mostly that)
V1 wasn't bad
🤨
🎉 King!
King Mentioned 🗣️ 🔥 RAGHH
King version 😄
King so high jumpscare but I get why 😂
im not lazy, im highly efficient
king next to their knight make sense tbh
BHMABER NO
they rule over their kingdom y'know so the king is high up from their castle
no djinn? :(
I mean it is standard in my games due to 90% op custom.scripts.having jinxes
yknow it is kinda weird this script only has four travellers
also weird that “otherswise” is in the jinx for the mastermind
which traveler is being erased here
Wierd how that works right?
And sorry for the misspelling. Im dyslez, dislec, diskwor, dizzy, dislectie I cant spell.
Ill update in a few, will also put voudon a bit closer to.home. now i saw that im triggered
feedback it’s a little dark
Ran RtC with the Boffin-Amne ability: 1 Outsider [the Snitch] thinks they are a Townsfolk [Banshee].
Gave a few hints as to that and game ended with a MM loss. King got close to getting info but town managed to avoid a triple kill. Got a Princess night though which is good!
there's so much depth to princess on this script it's so cool
How does Princess feel?
The no deaths plus confirmation feels RtC
like it's just useful
King I wanna test more
Princess will for ever be king in my eyes
hints to good or to evil?
good
like savant saying there's 2outsiders
fish advice was "Caffeine knows much less than they think they do"
Demon just amne guessed but didnt get it
Even better when laminated 😏
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hmmm, I've playtested King a few times now and it's yet to do anything realistically
dont know if that's just an unlucky thing / players not working with it / or just King isnt quite right
at max it's kinda gonna get 1 night of info
I can respect the possibility of it being incompatible with Mastermind gameplay
which like if it's really really good info
I did enjoy having the knowledge of a player that would always live though for that MM night
It’s interesting cause MM jinx wants you to have a real good knowledge of the grimoire
but later in the game, more players are willing to die
I think it’s just doesn’t quite work and without like a choirboy to scare the alhad to keeping them around too
And I don’t wanna add choirboy because I don’t want to make this a King script
i don't really see the vision for King tbh
it’s like all of town has to work together to keep the king alive
but idk if it works out in practice
players aren't selfless enough
I like it for what bhamver said and how it fills a Dreamer niche but yeah it’s not something I think quite works in practise
I mean, King was a wildcard pick for this script. If it does not work, soit
tbh the first time we had a king game we won too quickly
also if it wasnt MM and foxx died that night, the King learns King
you were gonna get such puzzledrunk info pixlate
I think King wants a more reliable end game than RtC
it was gonna be so fire
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