#✦ Homebrews By Luis ✦ (Nerdy Meet-cute)

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cinder hemlock
jagged frost
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huh

cinder hemlock
heavy mauve
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Both in word, I presume?

cinder hemlock
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😔

jagged frost
heavy mauve
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True

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Oh TBA has that weird symbol

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Wtf is that

cinder hemlock
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Also w hat's h3

cinder hemlock
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?

heavy mauve
cinder hemlock
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I think

cinder hemlock
heavy mauve
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It's my scientific experiment

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Stands for Hyper Hybrid Homebrews

cinder hemlock
cinder hemlock
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I have no idea what that means

heavy mauve
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So rn I have two scripts

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Here

cinder hemlock
heavy mauve
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Here's one of em

jagged frost
cinder hemlock
heavy mauve
modern ferryBOT
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Gave +1 Thanks to @jagged frost (current: #389 - 83)

cinder hemlock
jagged frost
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np

heavy mauve
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So I combined several homebrew collections into one single script

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It's literal chaos goblin

cinder hemlock
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Literally Chaos Insurgency

heavy mauve
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Nice

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But yeah

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More on that in my forum

cinder hemlock
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Time to see what you will bring next

heavy mauve
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Thanks!

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Still need a lot of finetuning though

blazing tinsel
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@jagged frost are these supposed to be so different

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or work in progress?

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cause the traveller one looks really good :p, the other does less so

cinder hemlock
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😔

stray otter
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luis said fuck y'all to the residents

cinder hemlock
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Well not like they didn't abuse it before

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Luis doesn't want truth to spill out

stray otter
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dont make me want to abuse mine 😌

jagged frost
blazing tinsel
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then be better than it

jagged frost
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tbf just go to the HBLX page then lmao

blazing tinsel
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Your abilities wording > tpi wording
Your website should be > official

Right? :p

blazing tinsel
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At peace

stray otter
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luis' ability wording is just my style 💀

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well not just my style bc it is worse

jagged frost
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it’s just then everyone is apoc has similar wording what are you on about 💀

stray otter
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luis who rewords almost anything sent in apoc my guy

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everyone has a similar style bc everyone copied it from me cuz im the main character 😌

jagged frost
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tbf that only strengths my point

stray otter
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smh

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i am joking, though apoc wording is better than tpi sorry tpi

stray otter
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baba is you emotes are so cute

jagged frost
stray otter
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yeah 😭

cinder hemlock
cinder hemlock
stray otter
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eddy has no evidence that this is a real statement and not an edited screenshot

cinder hemlock
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I never spread misinformation

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cinder hemlock
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And notice it gets a little lighter

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😔

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Ahh

cinder hemlock
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That begs the question

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Who rides better

chilly moon
jagged frost
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<@&1272694218204381244>

### Version 1.10.3
- Released showcase script "Overture III: Amber" by TheDarkArtist, featuring the Goldsmith and Porcher
stray otter
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if anyone gets the reference of the title hmu i need to tell you how much i love you

distant zenith
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Why minions on this script are all related to Uh...."Animals" even thought insects

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Honestly

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Hmmm

distant zenith
jagged frost
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bruh

heavy mauve
cinder hemlock
jagged frost
jagged frost
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Who wants to see 2 new characters?

mild grotto
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meeee

white quartz
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meeeee

jagged frost
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“We live forever, you know? Seeing human generations rise and wither, watching them wage wars that they’ll inevitably all lose. I can give you this wisdom. I just need to take a bit… of your blood.”
Introducing to you, the...

Vampire

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[Minion]

Evil players you nominate today don’t die if executed. If a Townsfolk player nominates you, you & they are poisoned until dawn.

The Vampire makes their fellow evil players immortal, if they’re kept away from the stake

  • Each day, if the Vampire nominates an evil player who is then executed that day, they will survive execution and remain alive.
  • If a Townsfolk player nominates the Vampire, both players are poisoned immediately from the rest of that day and until the end of that night.
  • If the Vampire is poisoned this way, an evil player they’ve nominated does not survive execution.

How to Run:
Each day, if the Vampire nominates another evil player, mark the nominee with the SURVIVES EXECUTION reminder. If they are executed, declare that they were executed but remain alive. (Do not say why.)

Each day, if a Townsfolk player nominates the Vampire, both the Townsfolk and Vampire become poisoned immediately — mark both with POISONED reminders.

Each dawn, both players become healthy — remove their POISONED reminders. Also, remove the SURVIVES EXECUTION reminder if placed.

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Json:

{
  "id": "vampire_hblreleased",
  "image": [
    "https://i.imgur.com/JEUi3OW.png",
    "https://i.imgur.com/vr9ZMUd.png"
  ],
  "reminders": ["Survives Execution", "Poisoned", "Poisoned"],
  "name": "Vampire",
  "team": "minion",
  "ability": "Evil players you nominate today don’t die if executed. If a Townsfolk player nominates you, you & they are poisoned until dawn."
}
gritty ermine
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Ruined goblin

jagged frost
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huh

mild grotto
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goblin doesnt have to die to win

gritty ermine
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No I meant text space wise

mild grotto
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oh

jagged frost
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you were too late on my screen lmao

gritty ermine
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The next character is now spaced out farther > : )

jagged frost
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oh yeah that's fine 💀

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✦ Homebrews By Luis ✦ (Holy Communion)

gritty ermine
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Huh Boomdandy doesn’t have to die to explode

mild grotto
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you should probably kill it after if possible

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but yeah

gritty ermine
jagged frost
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okay time for the 2nd one

gritty ermine
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Alch Boomdandy Tea Lady could

jagged frost
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“It is called: Eucharist because it is an action of thanksgiving to God.”
Introducing to you, the...

Deacon

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[Townsfolk]

The good player who is the most correct can’t die.

The Deacon keeps the right person alive.

  • The player who the Storyteller deems is the most correct about the current game cannot die by any means.
  • The Storyteller is the judge on who is the most correct. This may be because they are posing more complete worlds, or because they are closer to finding the Demon than anyone else.
  • The most correct good player can change at any time, and the Storyteller should use the reminder provided for the Deacon to track this.

How to Run:
At any time, if you believe that a good player is the most correct of all good players, mark them with the CANNOT DIE reminder.

If a player marked CANNOT DIE would die, they remain alive. If a player marked CANNOT DIE is executed, declare that the marked player is executed but remains alive. (Do not say why.)

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Json:

{
  "id": "deacon_hblreleased",
  "image": [
    "https://i.imgur.com/3OAWTEt.png",
    "https://i.imgur.com/KBkaN8X.png"
  ],
  "name": "Deacon",
  "team": "townsfolk",
  "ability": "The good player who is the most correct can't die.",
  "reminders": ["Cannot Die"]
}
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<@&1272694218204381244>

### Version 1.11.0
- Released the Deacon and the Vampire
- Updated master json
  • [Deacon](#1221510239820447894 message)
  • [Vampire](#1221510239820447894 message)
quaint sequoia
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wow so true

jagged frost
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so Deacon Hierophant

quaint sequoia
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ILL GET AROUND TO IT

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I LITERALLY JUST MADE A SCRIPT FOR YOU 😭

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you heard it here first luis overworks his little script minions guys

bold tusk
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deacon panopticon

jagged frost
quaint sequoia
jagged frost
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now if you don't mind me

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i'm going to sleep

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bc it's almost 2 am

modern ferryBOT
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quaint sequoia
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no i disagree.

jagged frost
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😭

jagged frost
quaint sequoia
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tbf its also 2 for me luis

jagged frost
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yeah

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so sleep

quaint sequoia
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but i stay strong 💪

jagged frost
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💀

quaint sequoia
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im gonna stay up all night in defiance

errant nymph
quaint sequoia
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fine luis ill make the heiro deacon script whilst you sleep

pseudo vapor
jagged frost
modern ferryBOT
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Gave +1 Thanks to @errant nymph (current: #283 - 124)

gritty ermine
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My question is: How does Deacon play?

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Oh damn execution protection too

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Ok that actually fixes a large part of what I thought was the problem.

If someone doesn’t die during the day, that’s a huge thing

jagged frost
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yeah if someone survives execution then that basically makes them the messiah lmao

gritty ermine
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I mainly thought it was crummy because it didn’t seem plausible the Deacon player died at night

And that even if they did, you still wouldn’t have insight who

gritty ermine
pseudo vapor
# jagged frost how so?

It is dependent on script but I can see a good way to limit worlds like being on d1 actively saying one of three people is the demon and making sure I am doing a lot for pushing that if I die that means I am not correct I am a better knight, if I do not die oh boy does the worlds collapse

jagged frost
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it’s like HP

gritty ermine
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Ok I thought this was just a crummy soldier with info by absence (knowing the most correct player didn’t die in the night)

But that fixed a fair bit

keen scroll
gritty ermine
jagged frost
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you shouldn’t just try to intuit why the ST gave you the name, you should just talk to them

pseudo vapor
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on d1 it is very easy to be like I will make my entire life goal saying if this person is demon and reaping the benefits

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Regardless of your intention if you push for the demon being demon that is worth being helpful

jagged frost
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bc imo if someone is just faking having a world just for the sake of Deacon protection, i wouldn’t call them the most correct

pseudo vapor
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I mean if they are correct because of deacon being a factor does that not make them still correct

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They have different motivation but if they still push it to other genuinely it is still a thing they pushed and tried to establish

jagged frost
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i mean this is an ST thing imo

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what counts as “the most correct” to me might be different to you

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that’s why it’s in the summary

pseudo vapor
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yeah true

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Luis answer me, in terms of philosophy what does it mean to be correct /joking

gritty ermine
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It means to name the Daughter of Nox

jagged frost
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not just being randomly mad

pseudo vapor
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I think it is important for the st to be open about how they would run it as a character like this but as long as it is clarified beforehand I am happy

jagged frost
jagged frost
gritty ermine
jagged frost
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and as i’ve said, im of the belief that you should just go with the context of the Deacon being alive

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i.e. someone living amongst us is the most correct

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which usually doesn’t happen actually

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the Demon just kills them off

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shame on you lady mist

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shame on you 💀

gritty ermine
jagged frost
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😭

gritty ermine
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Deacon Among Us Mod: Get another person as Command Mod “ST”. Command mod chooses whoever is most right. Votes on them fail

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Oh wait. Imposter kills would also fail. My b

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2 fun exe survival roles, a rare thing to see

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Vampire is not so much an exe survival role as it is a miniature Riot / Poisoner

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Good needs to keep some silver bullets in their pockets. Works great with characters that limit noms (like Kukalpa) and gets to shut up and be misinfo if it wants

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I like it with Drunk as well, and maybe Heretic as well to prevent good from always having a free defusal of Vamp

cinder hemlock
undone veldt
white quartz
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Yeah but

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They can be evil

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lol

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Like there are tons of cheese starts you can pull of in clocktower but they are too much of a hassle to actually pull of

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Like everyone self nomming in a fearmonger game

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stray otter
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the issue is that you confirm the players who survive exe after that as most likely good

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which isnt ideal

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stray otter
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i know but i was like

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thinking that it wouldnt make that meta

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i was like yeah well its cool cuz like once the executions on the block surely no one is going to nom

cinder hemlock
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Wow

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Dark

stray otter
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except in a f3 situation ofc

cinder hemlock
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How could you

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Dark that's the like, text of the character...

stray otter
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but its fine i can just uhhhhhhh not have too much exe survival on avo, just add like, two more tf who do it and an outsider

cinder hemlock
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Techno imp

stray otter
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😭

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It's literally written to make it clear that's the counterplay

stray otter
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ice

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please

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i know ive noticed now okay

cinder hemlock
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Baked

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Lmao

stray otter
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you dont have to keep on rubbing it in

cinder hemlock
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Anyways what's the character

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?

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I have no idea

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Tbf my Internet has been laggy so it feels like I'm dragging this out more than I am

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My fucking hubris

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Vampire, it d-d-d-drinks ur blood

cinder hemlock
stray otter
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yes you need other sources of evil exe survival but i didnt notice you needed more than two

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i might have to uh put a fourth one

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a mycologist perhaps

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Unless a TF didn't nom Vampire

stray otter
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i mean yes ofc

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See Drunk, or Outsiders that really wanna hide like Heretic and Damsel

cinder hemlock
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It also means that late game, if there's no TF alive, good can't win

cinder hemlock
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Wait

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The ultimate banshee

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Does Banshee / Vamp need a jinx?

stray otter
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not really

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the banshee can get a nom off then is poisoned

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they cant vote in case it uses a deadvote

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and the day after they cant nom

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wait its until dawn right

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they can nom

cinder hemlock
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k

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Well if Vamp is first nom then they can't nominate again

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Until the next day

stray otter
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oh jinx for that part

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yeah true

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@jagged frost

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i forgor banshee can nom twice

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I feel like Vampire is moreso "If a Townsfolk nominates you, you & they are poisoned until Dawn." and the other part is just to make it so that TF have a reason to nom the Vampire

blazing tinsel
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feels like the opposite of the characters intent

stray otter
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i mean i hope it doesnt play out like that bc thats an insanely weak ability if so

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I mean

stray otter
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but once i run avo or you and pyn make a release script, well see

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im not saying ur wrong btw

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im saying its insanely weak if thats the case

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Vamp is extremely weak, even if it's ability procs it usually proves a lot

stray otter
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like, needs a buff levels of weak

cinder hemlock
stray otter
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that

quaint sequoia
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100% agree eddy

stray otter
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is a buff for sure

quaint sequoia
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telling luis to make you an apoc resident and ban dark rn

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I think even just letting Vamp work both ways would make it way more consistent

cinder hemlock
blazing tinsel
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doesn't that defeat the point of making nom speed less important?

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because of how the ability is written evils can't just go and make a mathematical win easily

stray otter
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"Each day, the 1st evil player nominated by another evil survives execution. If nominated by a Townsfolk, you & they are poisoned until dusk."

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this seems like its better i think tbh

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Yeah, as I was saying in apoc, Vamp as is tells you who the Vampire is if it proccs

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I think another fun buff would be if Vampire protects any nominee

stray otter
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oh yeah

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Like not just evils they nominate

stray otter
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@jagged frost take notes i like ices more than mine bc it lets u bluff shit

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Makes it way easier to erode info, and makes it more ambiguous why a Vampire is proccing

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(Are they saving their demon, or keeping our top candidate alive?)

jagged frost
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but i was worried that it wouldn’t be able to actually execute people often

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O, why did u change it? (If I was there I frogor)

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Keeping players that town wants to execute alive is very powerful, arguably more than killing them

jagged frost
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hmmmmmmmmmm

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tbf i think i'll just go to the original version of "Players you nominate"

stray otter
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i think that one might still be weak

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i like it for bluffing but it sounds still very weak

jagged frost
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also icl you guys have known about vampire for a while so this got through everyone 💀

stray otter
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shut up

stray otter
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cuz the counterplay is just nominate whoever is getting someone on the block, while the counterplay to my version is find the vampire and nom them

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which i think is more fun

stray otter
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stray otter
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and i

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was silly

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and forgot

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well rather

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just didnt think about

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how the counterplay made it just weak asf

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Didn't think abt the implications smh

stray otter
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can you fault me it was a real neuron activation moment i didnt think thru

undone veldt
keen scroll
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I mean, if this counterplay didn't come up in playtesting it might be a negligible issue, much like FM self noms

heavy mauve
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But yeah I kinda agree the vampire seems easily outed during science noms

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Unless you put in like

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Tealady

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DA

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And Fool

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In which case

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Congrats you have BMR

cinder hemlock
jagged frost
heavy mauve
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All my homies love BMR

undone veldt
errant nymph
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Anyone know if there’s a collection of other HBL scripts out there? Like- Beyond just the showcase ones. I’m thinking of running a script with HBL characters on it in text, but the showcase scripts are all like 1-3 characters which isn’t much

flint crest
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here is one i made showcasing characters from TBA, HBL, and the SCP collection, using quite a bit of the HBL ones

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although its not the biggest jump in the HBL character count, as it uses 4 + 2 travelers from HBL

heavy vector
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There's going to be a handful of other scripts added to the library - non-showcases, which might include other collection characters alongside their cast

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just need to finish development on the scripts & then for Luis to set them all up and ready for release on the Notion

chilly moon
errant nymph
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Yup yup. For now imma just run a different script, but maybe next time once that’s up

jagged frost
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### Version 1.11.1
- Fixed Wig Snatcher-Riot jinx (It for some reason made nominees register as executed when the WS doesn't care about execution.)
flint crest
limpid gust
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RIOT-ENJOYER DETECTED 📢 🚨 📢 🚨 📢

🚨 RIOT-ENJOYER DETECTED 📢 🚨 📢 🚨 📢 🚨

-# idk what the fuck is happening rn

cinder hemlock
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RIOT-ENJOYER DETECTED 📢 🚨 📢 🚨 📢 🚨 RIOT-ENJOYER DETECTED 📢 🚨 📢 🚨 📢 🚨

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-# I'm here for lols

jagged frost
undone veldt
jagged frost
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I ran a game of Funeral March yesterday and evil won on day 1 bc of the heretic 💀

jagged frost
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no they just stayed hidden lmao

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I presume good just executed the demon

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Which tbh, is kind of a skill issue on a Heretic script

jagged frost
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7p game and on day one the demon got 5 votes 💀

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jagged frost
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ikr

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the best part was that this was a Seraph execution 💀

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Morb

cinder hemlock
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I love Courtier

quaint sequoia
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Luis when’s the morb script release I made it like a year ago

stray otter
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morb all over matsu

mild grotto
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morb!

cinder hemlock
jagged frost
wild trout
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rename it to matsuroth

cinder hemlock
jagged frost
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i'd follow the link in the fun fact

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just saying :)

flint crest
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woo hoo

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i am so exicted

chilly linden
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Perfect Fun Fact 😂

jagged frost
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✦ Homebrews By Luis ✦ (Sew Close Yet Sew Far)

cinder hemlock
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Really?

stray otter
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so close no matter how far

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couldnt me much more from the heart

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forever trusting who we r

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and nothing else matters

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also luis the icon on icarus is way too low

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it should be higher

cinder hemlock
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Green baby from jojo

jagged frost
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it looks centred to me

stray otter
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look at how much space there is on top

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and how little on the bottom

undone veldt
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Weaver part 2

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Seamstress part 2

jagged frost
bold tusk
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seamstress 2

cinder hemlock
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Deemsterss 2

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Wait

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What did i just type

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Deemsterss 2

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That's what you just typed

violet meteor
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Blabbermouth looks very cool ngl

jagged frost
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ty ty (and Dark)

stray otter
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no messages here in two days...

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bro fell off 💀

jagged frost
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bro 💀

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also this clue is for 2 characters

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so good luck lmao

finite fractal
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the Sewclose and the Sewfar

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solved

stray otter
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THIS IS FOR THOSE?

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ill give a better hint for one of them: Beyond Our Bodies

finite fractal
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far away from our bodies

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it's the Sewfar

stray otter
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oh i see how this applies to both of them

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but also

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Beyond Our Bodies for one of them

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@undone veldt good luck mate

undone veldt
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I was thinking like, what's the male version of seamstress? Seamster? That's too close Luis wouldn't do that

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It's a Tailor

stray otter
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not exactly

undone veldt
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I know that's not actually what those occupations correlate to but that was my thought process

stray otter
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damn i thought the amor vincit omnia draft i sent you had one of them

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but it doesnt

finite fractal
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is it any of these

stray otter
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nope

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but i have a modiste so self promo time

undone veldt
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I have a friend w/ the last name of Clothier lol

stray otter
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also pesti getting a new icon soon

undone veldt
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Anyways I have no idea what beyond our bodies could mean

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Maybe some sort of group trap character?

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Like Tir's Milkmaid?

stray otter
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beyond our bodies is a relatively abstract clue

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and a selfish one at that

finite fractal
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you fiend

stray otter
jagged frost
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bonus points if no-one gets it lmao

mild grotto
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Are they real words?

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Like how Imp is a real thing but Yaggababble is made up

undone veldt
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^^^^^

stray otter
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both real words

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the new characters (and pesti re-design) have W icons

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im not biased

mild grotto
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Surgeon? Coroner?

undone veldt
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Horticulturist? (Sewing seeds?)

mild grotto
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Ooh that’s fun

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Reaper?

mild grotto
stray otter
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ill say that the pesti redesign is live

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or boy is now pretty

jagged frost
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New pesti go brrrrr bzzzzz

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(also you need to add Dark's credit in the Notion)

jagged frost
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yeah i'm alr there

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also

blazing tinsel
jagged frost
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@stray otter

stray otter
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pesti deserved better

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as does cobbler tbh

stray otter
jagged frost
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so true

cinder hemlock
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It's

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Uh

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I don't know

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Love gloves?

heavy mauve
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"I'm a lover and an empath!"

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"UGH... HYPOTHETICALLY."

stray otter
stray otter
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exactly

ember solar
stray otter
jagged frost
# ember solar What do you mean “no ability”?

From the Pestilence wiki:

A player can have ‘no ability’ due to being drunk, poisoned, already dead, or due to another or their own ability. Using an ability to ‘completion’ (such as a Washerwoman who has already learned their info) does not constitute not having an ability.

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and also in the official glossary, it states that drunk and poisoned players have no ability

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so this isn't even a homebrew quirk, it's just a vanilla mechanic

ember solar
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Oh ok

stray otter
cinder hemlock
stray otter
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REAL

mild grotto
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You’d use that fact to hype us up

stray otter
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hasnt luis been making the poll all the time

mild grotto
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Yeah that’s why I said yall because you know the characters too

stray otter
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i know these next two very well actually yeah

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but okay if you need reassurance from someone who knows the characters ill vote 0 jinxes 😌

mild grotto
stray otter
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yes

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howd u guess it

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but like yeah i know these two well bc ive made both of their artworks (and maybe a bit more)

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@cinder hemlock

cinder hemlock
stray otter
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nerd

violet meteor
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Woah Kukalpa just blew my mind lol

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never seen anything like that before

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question about it

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does the Kukalpa still register as a Demon after they're nominated?

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I guess the character type would still have to be Demon because otherwise it would be nothing which doesn't make too much sense

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It's like Lil Monsta, but like, opposite

violet meteor
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hmm interesting

heavy mauve
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Yeah the Ravenkeeper will see the executed Kukalpa as a Kukalpa

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But a fortune teller trying to call a nominated Kukalpa will learn a "no"

violet meteor
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I assume a character that specifically checks character types would still seem them as a Demon

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So like Balloonist

red badge
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I believe so, yes

heavy mauve
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But yeah I think so

stray otter
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no characters?

cinder hemlock
stray otter
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idk

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the timer for the poll ends in 13h

cinder hemlock
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Wait

cinder hemlock
cinder hemlock
stray otter
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9h not 13

cinder hemlock
stray otter
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me too dw

cinder hemlock
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So

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Let's see how many characters are jinxed

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With Matsu

cinder hemlock
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If you do know the answer to it

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Is the Pestilence reskin coming in with the character release

stray otter
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its already out 😭 ??

cinder hemlock
stray otter
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and the page is updated

cinder hemlock
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me:

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It wonder how I didn't see it

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But saw the poll

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k

cinder hemlock
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Hm

jagged frost
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😭

cinder hemlock
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Clearly there are 5 rectangles

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In first word

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Which means 5 letters

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Which means baron

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The next one has 8

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Which is how many letters incident has

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Mystery solved

stray otter
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do you really think we'd release a script called that

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it is a serious topic, we do not make jokes about such a serious thing

stray otter
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no but thanks for the idea bitch

cinder hemlock
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What's matsu icon

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Flower hand?

stray otter
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snap dragon snake hand

cinder hemlock
cinder hemlock
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Wait this is HBL forum

stray otter
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i already told u my crit on spec and spoilers once

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i dont remember it

cinder hemlock
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Where the white was just cut off

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Or something

stray otter
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probably

cinder hemlock
stray otter
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for this one i guess that the outline is so much thicker than the lines inside its kinda odd but not bad per se its more of a stylistic choice ig

cinder hemlock
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I'll make the onion one of my best works

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Well it already is

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When you compare it to

blazing tinsel
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In the screenshot that was shared

stray otter
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ive foiled myself again

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well ill come and say it it is indeed called we remember the baron incident

stray otter
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sorry

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not sorry

jagged frost
# jagged frost
poll_question_text

How many of the next 2 characters will have a Matsuraid jinx?

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8

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14

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3

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2

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2️⃣

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unfortunately you guys are wrong

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sucks to suck

blazing tinsel
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Does it the 2 characters have 3 jinxes 👀

cinder hemlock
mild grotto
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Matsuraid gets a new jinx with an existing character

stray otter
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luis is just not going to release the characters

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youll never know

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one could almost say (the song with five names aka soapbox tao aka checkmate atheists aka neospace government) you can never know

jagged frost
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time to release the crusader

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:clueless:

stray otter
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do it

cinder hemlock
stray otter
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luis do your thing cmon 😭

quaint sequoia
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Yeah atp we have to rebel

jagged frost
violet meteor
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Wait, having an actual job, in my BOTC server? GASP

finite fractal
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Heresy

jagged frost
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re: #speculation-and-spoilers message

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@chilly linden there’s acc a version of BW that we’re considering

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where the bw can resurrect people

jagged frost
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i.e. it says “players who offer the most live” as opposed to “don’t die”

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but we’ll have to see how play tests go

undone veldt
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👀👀👀👀👀👀👀

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(I'm a weird species of arachnid)

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That's cool

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Anyways what's King of Yarn, Waiphiti, and Crown?

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Also is King of Yarn one of the releases

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Tailor + King of Yarn

jagged frost
gritty ermine
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🐱

jagged frost
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good luck lmao

undone veldt
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Nuh uh

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You're not correct

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Oh oh! Is it that stitchmouth thing that was mentioned one time

spring niche
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Is it the patchwerk? That one minion from the fake leak in spec and spoilers

red badge
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If it helps, @hallow anvil made that character

undone veldt
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I was gonna say that^^^

jagged frost
violet meteor
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What kind of rules does mirage get usually? Just curious

undone veldt
red badge
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Mirage rules can vary a ton

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An odd one off the dome is "The Demon has a Minion ability in addition to their own."

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But you could have something like "The Demon sees the Grimoire." or "Townsfolk get false info on the 1st night."

violet meteor
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huh interesting

red badge
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Actually, I don't know if those last 2 are great examples? Since you want something that is powerful if you turn off the ability

violet meteor
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oh?

red badge
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Like, usually since the Mirage gets to turn off their ability, I imagine you'd want something which is powerful to turn off

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Altho the Mirage learns they do this, so idk, maybe those last 2 are okay

stray otter
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and waiphiti is a fun idea i can say

mighty current
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marvelous!I still don't get the Crawler that how to trigger the winning condition that executed the 2nd known player or the 2nd executed known player?

errant nymph
# red badge Like, usually since the Mirage gets to turn off their ability, I imagine you'd w...

I feel like unless it has some semi-obvious effect, it’s basically impossible to guess it since you can’t ask questions or get hot/cold, only correct/incorrect. So if they do manage to guess it, it should be very powerful either to know what it was or to turn it off. So the “false info n1” is actually pretty good, since even though you aren’t turning it off you still know for certain all TF got false info n1

cinder hemlock
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But you always know an alive player

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So you need to exe them

undone veldt
jagged frost
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it’s the kind of outsider that does its damage early but is easy to stop after (if you’re observant)

cinder hemlock
jagged frost
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Ah yes

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panopti-mirage

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"You register as The Demon, and Luis doesn't"

jagged frost
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(i’m the ST and it’s an Atheist game)

cinder hemlock
jagged frost
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:D

finite fractal
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or is it just a

red badge
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M i r a g e

finite fractal
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thank you, I forgot the word

cinder hemlock
violet meteor
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When the Mirage guesses this correctly, and learns so, they shake their hand in disappointment.
I just imagine their hand flailing around like a madman in disappointment

jagged frost
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refresh now

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that's a typo 😭

violet meteor
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xD

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I figured but it's funnier to treat it as real

limpid gust
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𝙷𝚘𝚖𝚎𝚋𝚛𝚎𝚠𝚜 𝙱𝚢 LUIS

stray otter
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homebees by luis

mighty current
mighty current
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cool, but it seems there is no clue for the good team to avoid which player to be executed

cinder hemlock
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Listen

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After the first crawled player is executed

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Crawler learns a second one

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And second crawled player also learns they are chosen by crawler

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Iirc

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Actually

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Yeah i think that's it

cinder hemlock
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After the first one is exed

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@stray otter correct me if I'm wrong

jagged frost
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if the crawler has already executed a target, then the new targets then learn that they the known player

blazing tinsel
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its not the 1st executed player that learns crawler is in play?

jagged frost
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bc that was way too busted

blazing tinsel
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oh

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makes sense

jagged frost
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but it might be reverted

blazing tinsel
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just remember the original one 😅

jagged frost
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HBLX is HBLXing lmao

blazing tinsel
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the previous one sounded cooler tho

jagged frost
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i mean yeah

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but it was too op lmao

blazing tinsel
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were is my obviously better fearmonger anymore 😦

not neccecarily stronger, but does concept better

blazing tinsel
jagged frost
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i mean i’m of the opinion that the original crawler is strong but workable

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bc it basically has the same gameplay pattern of moonflower

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where someone comes out with a ping and says “hold the fuck up”

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the issue really was that you could just end the game for executing a random person

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and that wasn’t as good

undone veldt
undone veldt
undone veldt
cinder hemlock
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Is it a double release

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Real eyes realize release

blazing tinsel
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holy hell

jagged frost
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<t:1726423200:R>...

red badge
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holy hell

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I wish he'd release me in an hour

stray otter
jagged frost
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LMAO

undone veldt
violet meteor
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hmm interesting

jagged frost
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i can't believe that you don't trust me to release on time

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😔

stray otter
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luis we trust u !

jagged frost
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you're early

cinder hemlock
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It says in 4 mins

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Wait..

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What if i

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<t:2726423201:R>...

jagged frost
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bro-

cinder hemlock
jagged frost
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that's you

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BUT ANYWAY

cinder hemlock
jagged frost
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eddy quit trolling notnot13Pause 😭

stray otter
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dont wait

cinder hemlock
cinder hemlock
stray otter
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eddy L

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luis W

cinder hemlock
finite fractal
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Leddy

jagged frost
finite fractal
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:0

cinder hemlock
cinder hemlock
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2 lizards?

jagged frost
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bro

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why do you just never stop lolcatting 💀

finite fractal
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well that was a good release

jagged frost
#

“I'm the best in the business, dear! The devil himself wouldn't dare touch you with such fashionable brims. Hell will freeze over before a single seam pops!”
Introducing to you, the...

Haberdasher

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[Townsfolk]

If the Demon chooses their good neighbors (except you) with their ability, they immediately lose it until dawn, even if you died tonight.

The Haberdasher protects the Demon’s neighbours.

  • If the Demon uses their ability and chooses one of their neighbours (except the Haberdasher), the Demon loses their ability immediately. Their ability no longer works until the next day.
  • This happens even if the Haberdasher died in that same night. That is, if a Demon can kill multiple players at night, the Haberdasher will still protect the Demon’s good neighbours, even if they died first.
  • The Demon’s good neighbours are the two good players closest to them — one clockwise and one anticlockwise. Skip any evil players.
  • If the Haberdasher is chosen, nothing happens, even if they neighbour the Demon. The Demon still keeps their ability.
  • If the Haberdasher neighbours the Demon, the next player after them is not protected.

How to Run:
While preparing the first night, mark the Demon’s good neighbours with SEWN reminders, except the Haberdasher themself.

At any time, even if the Haberdasher died that night, if the Demon chooses to use their ability on a SEWN player, the Demon immediately loses their ability — mark them with the NO ABILITY reminder. Finish resolving their ability and put them to sleep.

At dawn, the Demon regains their ability — remove the Haberdasher’s NO ABILITY reminder.

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Json:

{
        "id": "haberdasher_hblreleased",
        "team": "townsfolk",
        "name": "Haberdasher",
        "ability": "If the Demon chooses their good neighbors (except you) with their ability, they immediately lose it until dawn, even if you died tonight.",
        "image": [
            "https://i.imgur.com/DGgTjM7.png",
            "https://i.imgur.com/aet0ryA.png"
        ],
        "reminders": [
            "Sewn",
            "Sewn",
            "No Ability"
        ],
        "firstNightReminder": "",
        "otherNightReminder": "",
        "firstNight": 0,
        "otherNight": 0,
        "jinxes": [
            {
                "id": "leviathan",
                "reason": "If the Leviathan nominates & executes a Haberdasher-protected-player, the Haberdasher-protected-player does not die."
            },
            {
                "id": "riot",
                "reason": "If a Riot player nominates a Haberdasher-protected-player, the Haberdasher-protected-player does not die."
            }
        ]
    }
#

Jinxes:

Official Characters

  • Leviathan and Haberdasher: If the Leviathan nominates & executes a Haberdasher-protected-player, the Haberdasher-protected-player does not die.

  • Riot and Haberdasher: If a Riot player nominates a Haberdasher-protected-player, the Haberdasher-protected-player does not die.

HBL Characters

  • Matsuraid and Haberdasher: If the Matsuraid is in play, votes for Haberdasher-protected players don’t count.
cinder hemlock
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Basically Bloodwright

cinder hemlock
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@jagged frost so basically

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This is amnesiac sidegrade

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Got it

undone veldt
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GODDAMNIT I THOUGHT THAT WAS DARK'S CHARACTER

cinder hemlock
jagged frost
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it is lmao

undone veldt
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I thought about it cause it had sewing needles in the icon

cinder hemlock
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That's how good the collab is

jagged frost
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we've made this and the next one together

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💀

undone veldt
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Lmfao

cinder hemlock
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I thought about it because I wanted to drink water

undone veldt
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I'm killing myself

finite fractal
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so this is the Sewfar

undone veldt
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The next release is just Folly

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"we" made this one guys

cinder hemlock
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😔

jagged frost
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nah it's showman

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👏

cinder hemlock
finite fractal
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👏

cinder hemlock
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I don't speak french

stray otter
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haberdasher was me workshopping one of luis' ideas past recognition so its both of our characters now

jagged frost
cinder hemlock
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Actually what's the second character

stray otter
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nah just some shameless promo

cinder hemlock
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By the sheer shock

jagged frost
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depends if you're going to keep trolling /j

cinder hemlock
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I'm just being funny

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Well

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At least I think I'm funny

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But I question that sometimes

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Anyways uh, the collaboration is just that you both made characters with eachother?

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Well it was expected but imagine if we got bloodwright and playwright

stray otter
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we made the characters together eddy thats why its a collab

undone veldt
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Yeah not their normal collaboration where Dark just does the icon

cinder hemlock
stray otter
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because the ideas were both luis' but the final abilities were me taking the idea and running with it, in one way or another

stray otter
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workshopped together and we just decided its best if we say we made em tiger

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together

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not tiger

jagged frost
#

Time for the 2nd character!

cinder hemlock
#

Next character tiger?

cinder hemlock
jagged frost
#

“I scour the waves for a sign, an enemy. I prayed for the sailors pulled away from port town lovers, bone by bloated bone, that the sea shan't take her chosen more than man's unwitting sense of pride. The barnacles crept up my body from mangled toe to withered flesh, from hypothermic arm to dead glass eye, reduced to a spectral pearl you devour to survive. An anchor weighed down by neck and dragged me across stone and seabed, so my sight shall remain untainted by fog and storm. The tides corroded my body, saliva of salt and sand, to pour like an hourglass in a wreck. The old wood rotted with it, tied to the crows nest with old sail cloth to wander and wail. Sink, sank, sunk.”
Introducing to you, the...

Leftenent

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[Minion]
“You poison good players who choose the Demon with their abilities, & then learn who they are. 1 good player might then learn you too.”

The Leftenent stays on lookout for the Demon.

  • At any time, a player uses their ability and chooses the Demon, that player becomes poisoned immediately. Their ability no longer works.
  • As soon as the Leftenent poisons a player, the Leftenent learns who they are, and their character. This happens even if the player was already drunk or poisoned.
  • After the Leftenent learns someone they’ve poisoned, the Storyteller may then wake any good player and show them who the Leftenent is.

How to Run:
At any time, if a player chooses to use their ability on the Demon, this player immediately becomes poisoned — mark them with a POISONED reminder. Finish resolving this player’s ability and put them to sleep.

At the earliest opportunity, wake the Leftenent, point to the newly POISONED player(s) and show their character token(s). Put the Leftenent to sleep. Then you may choose to wake a good player, point to the Leftenent, and show the Leftenent character token. Put the good player to sleep.

#

Json:

{
  "id": "leftenent_hblreleased",
  "team": "minion",
  "name": "Leftenent",
  "ability": "You poison good players who choose the Demon with their abilities, & then learn who they are. 1 good player might then learn you too.",
  "image": [
    "https://i.imgur.com/Js8X3RY.png",
    "https://i.imgur.com/VUrYX3t.png"
  ],
  "reminders": ["Poisoned", "Poisoned", "Poisoned", "Poisoned", "Poisoned"],
  "firstNightReminder": "",
  "otherNightReminder": "",
  "firstNight": 0,
  "otherNight": 0,
  "jinxes": [
    {
      "id": "summoner",
      "reason": "Until a Demon is made, the Leftenent poisons and learns good players who choose the Summoner with their abilities. When a Demon is made, if they would be poisoned by the Leftenent, they are not."
    },
    {
      "id": "plaguedoctor",
      "reason": "If the Plague Doctor gives the Storyteller the Leftenent ability, a good player might learn who a Minion is instead of the Leftenent, when a player gets poisoned."
    }
  ]
}
#

Jinxes:

Official Characters

  • Leftenent and Summoner: Until a Demon is made, the Leftenent poisons and learns good players who choose the Summoner with their abilities. When a Demon is made, if they would be poisoned by the Leftenent, they are not.

  • Leftenent and Plague Doctor: If the Plague Doctor gives the Storyteller the Leftenent ability, a good player might learn who a Minion is instead of the Leftenent, when a player gets poisoned.

jagged frost
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nope

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only 1 today lmao

stray otter
#

haber has one

cinder hemlock
#

Luis hates Lleech

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...

stray otter
cinder hemlock
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@jagged frost quick add a Lleech jinx before anyone notices

jagged frost
cinder hemlock
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Remember the jinx between slayer

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And lleech

jagged frost
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time for a hot fix lmao

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i mean what's the interaction with goon lmao

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it's just the same as that

finite fractal
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so hot it isn't out the oven

cinder hemlock
cinder hemlock
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Understand do I not

undone veldt
#

Goon still becomes the host but that's drunk wording

red badge
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with either?

undone veldt
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You said lose ability

jagged frost
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bruh

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drunk = lose ability

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💀

undone veldt
#

So technically I guess it's just an interesting interaction?

jagged frost
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yeah that lmao

red badge
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Haber doesn't need a Lleech jinx?

cinder hemlock
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I think Lleech loses ability for first dusk/dawn

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I forgot

undone veldt
#

Lose ability is technically different

red badge
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It's bad tho

undone veldt
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Like,

jagged frost
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but how tho

cinder hemlock
undone veldt
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They don't create a host

jagged frost
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it's mechanically the exact same

cinder hemlock
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Makes Goon poisoned

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I think

undone veldt
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And then they pick tomorrow

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And in the mean time they're vulnerable

jagged frost
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well yeah that's one way to run it lmao

cinder hemlock
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I mean

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That's how I run it

red badge
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why isn't it drunk?

undone veldt
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Sorry let me type this out long form

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I was busy trying to make lunch

cinder hemlock
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Or tooth slayer

jagged frost
cinder hemlock
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@stray otter why isn't it drunk

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WHY

stray otter
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because uh

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i dont think its exactly the same

cinder hemlock
stray otter
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like because i think them having no ability is loud bc it tells them they have no ability

undone veldt
#

Leech picks goon, gets drunked, so no poison and they can die until sober, but hosting goes through.
Here, they "lose ability" which is more absolute then the drunk condition. Drunk condition uses "lose ability" for understandable shorthand. So like, losing ability I would interpret as they don't get to host until the next night and can't die until choosing a host

stray otter
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whilst them being drunk you wake them as if they had one

undone veldt
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But if you want to rule it that they can still die (I'm not sure how the "if and only if" statement works with a null value) then it's just an interesting interaction, no need for jinx

stray otter
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the change just matters for shab, really, but yeah

cinder hemlock
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So, what is the final conclusion

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I still don't understand

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Is it just drunk first day

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And then goon is poisoned

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Or is the Lleech now eternally drunkened

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By the goon

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Can someone please enlighten me

undone veldt
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Just drunk the first day but that's not important

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Cause Dark has agreed that "losing ability" isn't the same as drunk here

zinc sparrow
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loses ability is also relevant for acro

jagged frost
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i mean that's acro

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💀

stray otter
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not really bc good neighbors

jagged frost
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that too

cinder hemlock
#

Anyways, I'll go resize my icons

undone veldt
jagged frost
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I'd go with Dark's

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i.e. if they host one of their neighbours, then the hosting gets moved to the next night

undone veldt
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But that's not the question

undone veldt
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The question is can they die

jagged frost
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oh yeah

cinder hemlock
undone veldt
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Hence the null statement thing I was saying

jagged frost
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they don't have their ability

undone veldt
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Okay good

jagged frost
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so they're done for if they do that

undone veldt
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That's what I thought

jagged frost
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but also why would you host a neighbour in a HD script 💀

undone veldt
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Anyways

cinder hemlock
#

My face when Lleech chooses themselves so they wouldn't lose their ability to haberdasher

undone veldt
cinder hemlock
undone veldt
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Smh

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Discriminating against the illiterate

cinder hemlock
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At the start

undone veldt
cinder hemlock
#

That haberdasher is there

undone veldt
#

Anyways

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I LOVE LEFTENENT

cinder hemlock
finite fractal
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not quite

undone veldt
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It's misinfo + evil information without grim-peeking

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So it works with damsel and heretic!!!!!

cinder hemlock
undone veldt
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You can have a dreamer or something without it kinda being unbluffable

cinder hemlock
red badge
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Haberdasher is so cracked and I love it

cinder hemlock
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Wait does it read alive

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Or no

red badge
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With each night death, you learn 2 players who aren't the demon

undone veldt
jagged frost
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yeah it's mad lmao

red badge
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(also how does it work with Travellers)

cinder hemlock
stray otter