#✦ Homebrews By Luis ✦ (Nerdy Meet-cute)
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huh
I actually meant tba
Both in word, I presume?
😔
i mean you should be able to just c+p them if needed
Also w hat's h3
Hooo
I think

B3 but homebrews
Oh
I have no idea what that means

Extra large scripts?
yeah HBL -> ✦ and TBA -> §
They are cool
Thank
Gave +1 Thanks to @jagged frost (current: #389 - 83)

np
So I combined several homebrew collections into one single script
It's literal chaos 

Literally Chaos Insurgency
@jagged frost are these supposed to be so different
or work in progress?
cause the traveller one looks really good :p, the other does less so
Luis likes Travellers more
😔
luis said fuck y'all to the residents
They even started abusing their mod
Well not like they didn't abuse it before

Luis doesn't want truth to spill out
dont make me want to abuse mine 😌
yeah it’s in line w the official wiki
tbf just go to the HBLX page then lmao
Your abilities wording > tpi wording
Your website should be > official
Right? :p
It looks so nice there
At peace
tf
it’s just then everyone is apoc has similar wording what are you on about 💀
luis who rewords almost anything sent in apoc my guy
everyone has a similar style bc everyone copied it from me cuz im the main character 😌
tbf that only strengths my point
bruh

baba is you emotes are so cute
tpi: if all good players join your cult,
apoc: if all good players agree,
yeah 😭
Taxi parking institute
eddy has no evidence that this is a real statement and not an edited screenshot
Ok now this is edited
It's the wrong color 😭
Have you pressed a message
And notice it gets a little lighter
😔
Ahh
you're better than that 
<@&1272694218204381244>
### Version 1.10.3
- Released showcase script "Overture III: Amber" by TheDarkArtist, featuring the Goldsmith and Porcher
if anyone gets the reference of the title hmu i need to tell you how much i love you


Why minions on this script are all related to Uh...."Animals" even thought insects
Honestly
Hmmm
Hillarious
Pukka
bruh
it was a coincidence Actually it was planned by me very well
What’s the jynx list
Uh
Porcher and Kazali: If the Demon gains the Kazali’s ability, they may wake once to choose new Minions characters for their Minions.
Who wants to see 2 new characters?
meeee
meeeee
“We live forever, you know? Seeing human generations rise and wither, watching them wage wars that they’ll inevitably all lose. I can give you this wisdom. I just need to take a bit… of your blood.”
Introducing to you, the...
Vampire
[Minion]
Evil players you nominate today don’t die if executed. If a Townsfolk player nominates you, you & they are poisoned until dawn.
The Vampire makes their fellow evil players immortal, if they’re kept away from the stake
- Each day, if the Vampire nominates an evil player who is then executed that day, they will survive execution and remain alive.
- If a Townsfolk player nominates the Vampire, both players are poisoned immediately from the rest of that day and until the end of that night.
- If the Vampire is poisoned this way, an evil player they’ve nominated does not survive execution.
How to Run:
Each day, if the Vampire nominates another evil player, mark the nominee with the SURVIVES EXECUTION reminder. If they are executed, declare that they were executed but remain alive. (Do not say why.)
Each day, if a Townsfolk player nominates the Vampire, both the Townsfolk and Vampire become poisoned immediately — mark both with POISONED reminders.
Each dawn, both players become healthy — remove their POISONED reminders. Also, remove the SURVIVES EXECUTION reminder if placed.
Json:
{
"id": "vampire_hblreleased",
"image": [
"https://i.imgur.com/JEUi3OW.png",
"https://i.imgur.com/vr9ZMUd.png"
],
"reminders": ["Survives Execution", "Poisoned", "Poisoned"],
"name": "Vampire",
"team": "minion",
"ability": "Evil players you nominate today don’t die if executed. If a Townsfolk player nominates you, you & they are poisoned until dawn."
}
Ruined 
huh
goblin doesnt have to die to win
No I meant text space wise
oh
you were too late on my screen lmao
The next character is now spaced out farther > : )
Huh Boomdandy doesn’t have to die to explode
I mean I don’t see anything that would force a Boomdandy to stay alive during the day
okay time for the 2nd one
Alch Boomdandy Tea Lady could
“It is called: Eucharist because it is an action of thanksgiving to God.”
Introducing to you, the...
Deacon
[Townsfolk]
The good player who is the most correct can’t die.
The Deacon keeps the right person alive.
- The player who the Storyteller deems is the most correct about the current game cannot die by any means.
- The Storyteller is the judge on who is the most correct. This may be because they are posing more complete worlds, or because they are closer to finding the Demon than anyone else.
- The most correct good player can change at any time, and the Storyteller should use the reminder provided for the Deacon to track this.
How to Run:
At any time, if you believe that a good player is the most correct of all good players, mark them with the CANNOT DIE reminder.
If a player marked CANNOT DIE would die, they remain alive. If a player marked CANNOT DIE is executed, declare that the marked player is executed but remains alive. (Do not say why.)
Json:
{
"id": "deacon_hblreleased",
"image": [
"https://i.imgur.com/3OAWTEt.png",
"https://i.imgur.com/KBkaN8X.png"
],
"name": "Deacon",
"team": "townsfolk",
"ability": "The good player who is the most correct can't die.",
"reminders": ["Cannot Die"]
}
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### Version 1.11.0
- Released the Deacon and the Vampire
- Updated master json
- [Deacon](#1221510239820447894 message)
- [Vampire](#1221510239820447894 message)
wow so true
so Deacon Hierophant
ILL GET AROUND TO IT
I LITERALLY JUST MADE A SCRIPT FOR YOU 😭
you heard it here first luis overworks his little script minions guys
deacon panopticon
(also me: "you guys don't have to, literally only do this if you'd like")
i choose to not see that
no i disagree.
😭
TRUE
tbf its also 2 for me luis
but i stay strong 💪
💀
This might be my favorite role you’ve made so far. So simple and so good. Fantastic
fine luis ill make the heiro deacon script whilst you sleep
I feel like this is a bit abuseable
how so?
ty ty 
Gave +1 Thanks to @errant nymph (current: #283 - 124)
My question is: How does Deacon play?
Oh damn execution protection too
Ok that actually fixes a large part of what I thought was the problem.
If someone doesn’t die during the day, that’s a huge thing
yeah if someone survives execution then that basically makes them the messiah lmao
I mainly thought it was crummy because it didn’t seem plausible the Deacon player died at night
And that even if they did, you still wouldn’t have insight who
At the very least, you immediately entertain the worlds they have proposed
It is dependent on script but I can see a good way to limit worlds like being on d1 actively saying one of three people is the demon and making sure I am doing a lot for pushing that if I die that means I am not correct I am a better knight, if I do not die oh boy does the worlds collapse
i mean even then it’s good bc you’re keeping the right person alive
it’s like HP
Ok I thought this was just a crummy soldier with info by absence (knowing the most correct player didn’t die in the night)
But that fixed a fair bit
I mean that really depends on how much exe survival's on script though. How much protection have you usually found to work nicely?
I mean you still wouldn’t really have an idea who’s safe if they die at night
you shouldn’t just try to intuit why the ST gave you the name, you should just talk to them
on d1 it is very easy to be like I will make my entire life goal saying if this person is demon and reaping the benefits
Regardless of your intention if you push for the demon being demon that is worth being helpful
see the issue with that is, as an ST, would you believe that that player was genuinely believing in that world
bc imo if someone is just faking having a world just for the sake of Deacon protection, i wouldn’t call them the most correct
I mean if they are correct because of deacon being a factor does that not make them still correct
They have different motivation but if they still push it to other genuinely it is still a thing they pushed and tried to establish
i mean this is an ST thing imo
what counts as “the most correct” to me might be different to you
that’s why it’s in the summary
yeah true
Luis answer me, in terms of philosophy what does it mean to be correct /joking

It means to name the Daughter of Nox
to me, it’s using current info to derive a correct world (or a partially correct one at that)
not just being randomly mad
Luis ignore me, in terms of statistics and facts what does it minsterpret as being false/serious
/serious
Fixed it : )
I think it is important for the st to be open about how they would run it as a character like this but as long as it is clarified beforehand I am happy
aside from myself, it’s turning away from future vibes to posit an arbitrary thing
I mean i’ve found that it’s good where pacifist is good
Just use this instead of Pacifist and Temp will never be mad again
and as i’ve said, im of the belief that you should just go with the context of the Deacon being alive
i.e. someone living amongst us is the most correct
which usually doesn’t happen actually
the Demon just kills them off
shame on you lady mist
shame on you 💀
You did this to yourself
😭
Deacon Among Us Mod: Get another person as Command Mod “ST”. Command mod chooses whoever is most right. Votes on them fail
Oh wait. Imposter kills would also fail. My b
deac on your balls
2 fun exe survival roles, a rare thing to see
Vampire is not so much an exe survival role as it is a miniature Riot / Poisoner
Good needs to keep some silver bullets in their pockets. Works great with characters that limit noms (like Kukalpa) and gets to shut up and be misinfo if it wants
I like it with Drunk as well, and maybe Heretic as well to prevent good from always having a free defusal of Vamp
True
So like, as soon as a player has enough votes to be executed, don't you always just have a townsfolk player nominate the nominator to prevent interference with the science
Yeah but
They can be evil
lol
Like there are tons of cheese starts you can pull of in clocktower but they are too much of a hassle to actually pull of
Like everyone self nomming in a fearmonger game
okay fuck
Yes, but you poison the Townsfolk
the issue is that you confirm the players who survive exe after that as most likely good
which isnt ideal
Dark, how did you not notice this, that's like the point of the character
i know but i was like
thinking that it wouldnt make that meta
i was like yeah well its cool cuz like once the executions on the block surely no one is going to nom
except in a f3 situation ofc
How could you
Dark that's the like, text of the character...
but its fine i can just uhhhhhhh not have too much exe survival on avo, just add like, two more tf who do it and an outsider
Techno imp
GIRL DONT BLAME ME IM STUPID
😭
It's literally written to make it clear that's the counterplay
Baked
Lmao
you dont have to keep on rubbing it in
Oh
Tbf my Internet has been laggy so it feels like I'm dragging this out more than I am
My fucking hubris
Vampire, it d-d-d-drinks ur blood
Doesn't that kinda confirm players who survive exe after that as good
yes you need other sources of evil exe survival but i didnt notice you needed more than two
i might have to uh put a fourth one
a mycologist perhaps
Unless a TF didn't nom Vampire
i mean yes ofc
See Drunk, or Outsiders that really wanna hide like Heretic and Damsel
Damsel doesn't want to hide wdym

It also means that late game, if there's no TF alive, good can't win
Unless
Wait
The ultimate banshee

Does Banshee / Vamp need a jinx?
not really
the banshee can get a nom off then is poisoned
they cant vote in case it uses a deadvote
and the day after they cant nom
wait its until dawn right
they can nom
k
I feel like Vampire is moreso "If a Townsfolk nominates you, you & they are poisoned until Dawn." and the other part is just to make it so that TF have a reason to nom the Vampire
feels like the opposite of the characters intent
i mean i hope it doesnt play out like that bc thats an insanely weak ability if so
I mean
but once i run avo or you and pyn make a release script, well see
im not saying ur wrong btw
im saying its insanely weak if thats the case
Vamp is extremely weak, even if it's ability procs it usually proves a lot
like, needs a buff levels of weak
You cannot be nominated
that
100% agree eddy
is a buff for sure
telling luis to make you an apoc resident and ban dark rn
I think even just letting Vamp work both ways would make it way more consistent
so true
okay yeah i like this

doesn't that defeat the point of making nom speed less important?
because of how the ability is written evils can't just go and make a mathematical win easily
"Each day, the 1st evil player nominated by another evil survives execution. If nominated by a Townsfolk, you & they are poisoned until dusk."
this seems like its better i think tbh
Yeah, as I was saying in apoc, Vamp as is tells you who the Vampire is if it proccs
I think another fun buff would be if Vampire protects any nominee
oh yeah
Like not just evils they nominate
@jagged frost take notes i like ices more than mine bc it lets u bluff shit
Makes it way easier to erode info, and makes it more ambiguous why a Vampire is proccing
(Are they saving their demon, or keeping our top candidate alive?)
tbf this was the original vampire
but i was worried that it wouldn’t be able to actually execute people often
O, why did u change it? (If I was there I frogor)
Oh yeah that's true, but that's what the rest of the team is for
Keeping players that town wants to execute alive is very powerful, arguably more than killing them
you can also go this route
hmmmmmmmmmm
tbf i think i'll just go to the original version of "Players you nominate"
i think that one might still be weak
i like it for bluffing but it sounds still very weak
also icl you guys have known about vampire for a while so this got through everyone 💀
shut up
cuz the counterplay is just nominate whoever is getting someone on the block, while the counterplay to my version is find the vampire and nom them
which i think is more fun
and this first counterplay as much as it does poison is just not that fun
I spent most of that time forgetting what it did exactly and trusting Dark that it worked
and i
was silly
and forgot
well rather
just didnt think about
how the counterplay made it just weak asf
Didn't think abt the implications smh
can you fault me it was a real neuron activation moment i didnt think thru
Yes
Yes we can
My initial reaction is liking this change, but I need more time
I mean, if this counterplay didn't come up in playtesting it might be a negligible issue, much like FM self noms
Me who's done this before
But yeah I kinda agree the vampire seems easily outed during science noms
Unless you put in like
Tealady
DA
And Fool
In which case
Congrats you have BMR
Me who's not done this before
i mean that’s kinda every death puzzle so 💀
All my homies love BMR
I've thought about it and I really like this
Anyone know if there’s a collection of other HBL scripts out there? Like- Beyond just the showcase ones. I’m thinking of running a script with HBL characters on it in text, but the showcase scripts are all like 1-3 characters which isn’t much
well speak of the devil - i was making a few hybrid homebrew scripts and i was really inspired to make one for the new vampire & deacon character luis showed off
here is one i made showcasing characters from TBA, HBL, and the SCP collection, using quite a bit of the HBL ones
although its not the biggest jump in the HBL character count, as it uses 4 + 2 travelers from HBL
It's being worked on!
There's going to be a handful of other scripts added to the library - non-showcases, which might include other collection characters alongside their cast
just need to finish development on the scripts & then for Luis to set them all up and ready for release on the Notion
there are a couple of non-showcase scripts that'll be on the library soon enough
Yup yup. For now imma just run a different script, but maybe next time once that’s up
### Version 1.11.1
- Fixed Wig Snatcher-Riot jinx (It for some reason made nominees register as executed when the WS doesn't care about execution.)
Wow
RIOT-ENJOYER DETECTED 📢 🚨 📢 🚨 📢 🚨 RIOT-ENJOYER DETECTED 📢 🚨 📢 🚨 📢 🚨
RIOT-ENJOYER DETECTED 📢 🚨 📢 🚨 📢
🚨 RIOT-ENJOYER DETECTED 📢 🚨 📢 🚨 📢 🚨
-# idk what the fuck is happening rn
RIOT-ENJOYER DETECTED 📢 🚨 📢 🚨 📢 🚨 RIOT-ENJOYER DETECTED 📢 🚨 📢 🚨 📢 🚨
-# I'm here for lols
ah yes bc making a riot jinx is liking riot 💀
Well that must be why TPI made so many of them, right?
I ran a game of Funeral March yesterday and evil won on day 1 bc of the heretic 💀
Did Heretic hard claim
Orr
no they just stayed hidden lmao
I presume good just executed the demon
Which tbh, is kind of a skill issue on a Heretic script
7p game and on day one the demon got 5 votes 💀
Damn even the Heretic was in on it
real
Morb
I love Courtier
Luis when’s the morb script release I made it like a year ago
morb all over matsu
morb!
I love the moment where Matsu said it's morbin time and morbed all over the place
have you made one? 😭
rename it to matsuroth
Morburaid
holky shit its icarus from the game kid icarus
woo hoo
i am so exicted
Perfect Fun Fact 😂
✦ Homebrews By Luis ✦ (Sew Close Yet Sew Far)
Really?
so close no matter how far
couldnt me much more from the heart
forever trusting who we r
and nothing else matters
also luis the icon on icarus is way too low
it should be higher
i mean ig?
it looks centred to me
so true fr
seamstress 2
Blabbermouth looks very cool ngl
ty ty (and Dark)
oh i see how this applies to both of them
but also
Beyond Our Bodies for one of them
@undone veldt good luck mate
OH MY GOD I'm stupid, is it Tailor?
I was thinking like, what's the male version of seamstress? Seamster? That's too close Luis wouldn't do that
It's a Tailor
not exactly
I know that's not actually what those occupations correlate to but that was my thought process
is it any of these
I have a friend w/ the last name of Clothier lol
also pesti getting a new icon soon
Anyways I have no idea what beyond our bodies could mean
Maybe some sort of group trap character?
Like Tir's Milkmaid?
you fiend
our boy mosquito is gonna stop being a stock image 🙏
yeah i'm kinda proud of this one
bonus points if no-one gets it lmao
^^^^^
both real words
the new characters (and pesti re-design) have W icons
im not biased
Surgeon? Coroner?
Horticulturist? (Sewing seeds?)
That’s sowing though
(also you need to add Dark's credit in the Notion)
this is a really cool art
@stray otter
so true
oh no that's a character by imze its just a great emote
exactly
What do you mean “no ability”?
the almanac defines it, https://homebrews-by-luis.notion.site/Pestilence-6a6b84566bd24a7bb7a374c3a776fd86
From the Pestilence wiki:
A player can have ‘no ability’ due to being drunk, poisoned, already dead, or due to another or their own ability. Using an ability to ‘completion’ (such as a Washerwoman who has already learned their info) does not constitute not having an ability.
and also in the official glossary, it states that drunk and poisoned players have no ability
so this isn't even a homebrew quirk, it's just a vanilla mechanic
Oh ok
where my no jinx believers at
REAL
I feel like yall wouldn’t have even made the poll if there was no jinx
You’d use that fact to hype us up
hasnt luis been making the poll all the time
Yeah that’s why I said yall because you know the characters too
i know these next two very well actually yeah
but okay if you need reassurance from someone who knows the characters ill vote 0 jinxes 😌
The two characters are just you and Luis
yes
howd u guess it
but like yeah i know these two well bc ive made both of their artworks (and maybe a bit more)
@cinder hemlock
All i see is grey shit
nerd
Woah Kukalpa just blew my mind lol
never seen anything like that before
question about it
does the Kukalpa still register as a Demon after they're nominated?
I guess the character type would still have to be Demon because otherwise it would be nothing which doesn't make too much sense
as a demon character, but not as "the demon"
It's like Lil Monsta, but like, opposite
hmm interesting
Yeah the Ravenkeeper will see the executed Kukalpa as a Kukalpa
But a fortune teller trying to call a nominated Kukalpa will learn a "no"
I assume a character that specifically checks character types would still seem them as a Demon
So like Balloonist
I believe so, yes
no characters?
What poll
Oh
me too dw
Oh and a question
If you do know the answer to it
Is the Pestilence reskin coming in with the character release
its already out 😭 ??
Whur
😭
You see
Clearly there are 5 rectangles
In first word
Which means 5 letters
Which means baron
The next one has 8
Which is how many letters incident has
Mystery solved
do you really think we'd release a script called that
it is a serious topic, we do not make jokes about such a serious thing
Matsu bweakfst?

no but thanks for the idea bitch
Also
What's matsu icon
Flower hand?
snap dragon snake hand
I only understood hand
Wasn't it about old one
Where the white was just cut off
Or something
probably
It is different now
for this one i guess that the outline is so much thicker than the lines inside its kinda odd but not bad per se its more of a stylistic choice ig

I'll make the onion one of my best works
Well it already is
When you compare it to
Tbf the file was called the Baron incident
In the screenshot that was shared
dammit
ive foiled myself again
well ill come and say it it is indeed called we remember the baron incident
Fuck you

/j
How many of the next 2 characters will have a Matsuraid jinx?
8
14
3
2
2️⃣
unfortunately you guys are wrong
sucks to suck

Does it the 2 characters have 3 jinxes 👀
The first double jinx?
Matsuraid gets a new jinx with an existing character
luis is just not going to release the characters
youll never know
one could almost say (the song with five names aka soapbox tao aka checkmate atheists aka neospace government) you can never know
do it
I'm waiting
luis do your thing cmon 😭
okay tbf im working on the other scripts and just working in general too
Wait, having an actual job, in my BOTC server? GASP
Heresy
re: #speculation-and-spoilers message
@chilly linden there’s acc a version of BW that we’re considering
where the bw can resurrect people
i.e. it says “players who offer the most live” as opposed to “don’t die”
but we’ll have to see how play tests go
👀👀👀👀👀👀👀
(I'm a weird species of arachnid)
That's cool
Anyways what's King of Yarn, Waiphiti, and Crown?
Also is King of Yarn one of the releases
Tailor + King of Yarn
King of Yarn is… ||Luis’s cat||
🐱
just saying btw, of all of the names you’ve guessed, none of them are correct
good luck lmao
Nuh uh
You're not correct
Oh oh! Is it that stitchmouth thing that was mentioned one time
Is it the patchwerk? That one minion from the fake leak in spec and spoilers
If it helps, @hallow anvil made that character
I was gonna say that^^^
oh wow that’s a demon that i’ve forgotten about 💀
What kind of rules does mirage get usually? Just curious
Bro is just taunting me now
Mirage rules can vary a ton
An odd one off the dome is "The Demon has a Minion ability in addition to their own."
But you could have something like "The Demon sees the Grimoire." or "Townsfolk get false info on the 1st night."
huh interesting
Actually, I don't know if those last 2 are great examples? Since you want something that is powerful if you turn off the ability
oh?
Like, usually since the Mirage gets to turn off their ability, I imagine you'd want something which is powerful to turn off
Altho the Mirage learns they do this, so idk, maybe those last 2 are okay
i know exactly what one of these do and i cba to check what the other two do but im sure all are very luis-y
and waiphiti is a fun idea i can say
marvelous!I still don't get the Crawler that how to trigger the winning condition that executed the 2nd known player or the 2nd executed known player?
I feel like unless it has some semi-obvious effect, it’s basically impossible to guess it since you can’t ask questions or get hot/cold, only correct/incorrect. So if they do manage to guess it, it should be very powerful either to know what it was or to turn it off. So the “false info n1” is actually pretty good, since even though you aren’t turning it off you still know for certain all TF got false info n1
Didn't understand what you said
But you always know an alive player
So you need to exe them
This is why I think Mirage should get hot/cold feedback
yeah with mirage rules, they should be fairly loud
it’s the kind of outsider that does its damage early but is easy to stop after (if you’re observant)
You are announced by the Storyteller as the Mirage. Mirage starts knowing all evil team. Mirage Each day, may choose a player to execute

"You register as The Demon, and Luis doesn't"
bruh
(i’m the ST and it’s an Atheist game)
"Storyteller cannot break the rules. Good cannot win until Storyteller is executed."

bruh
Or did you
or is it just a
M i r a g e
thank you, I forgot the word
It's just a mirage
When the Mirage guesses this correctly, and learns so, they shake their hand in disappointment.
I just imagine their hand flailing around like a madman in disappointment
oh fuck 💀
refresh now
that's a typo 😭
𝙷𝚘𝚖𝚎𝚋𝚛𝚎𝚠𝚜 𝙱𝚢 LUIS
homebees by luis
I mean if Crawler already known two different players and the 1st is died by execution, and the Crawler can win by execute the 2nd player?
Yeah
cool, but it seems there is no clue for the good team to avoid which player to be executed
So
Listen
After the first crawled player is executed
Crawler learns a second one
And second crawled player also learns they are chosen by crawler
Iirc
Actually
Yeah i think that's it
And it also persists with the next targets
After the first one is exed
@stray otter correct me if I'm wrong

there is tho
if the crawler has already executed a target, then the new targets then learn that they the known player
wait?
its not the 1st executed player that learns crawler is in play?
it got nerfed
bc that was way too busted
but it might be reverted
just remember the original one 😅
HBLX is HBLXing lmao
the previous one sounded cooler tho
were is my obviously better fearmonger anymore 😦
not neccecarily stronger, but does concept better
fair...
i mean i’m of the opinion that the original crawler is strong but workable
bc it basically has the same gameplay pattern of moonflower
where someone comes out with a ping and says “hold the fuck up”
the issue really was that you could just end the game for executing a random person
and that wasn’t as good
🎉
😔
Especially if the ST puts it on the #1 demon candidate besides the demon
that make sense
yeah exactly
Luis

Is it a double release
Real eyes realize release
is that in the intent of the character tho?
holy hell
<t:1726423200:R>...
i also wish to be freed from luis s' basement
LMAO
hmm interesting
luis we trust u !
It's been an hour
It says in 4 mins
Wait..
What if i
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bro-
Fix your time
The next release is in 32 years
eddy quit trolling
😭
kk
Waiting
dont wait



Leddy
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These two characters are a bit more different, because they're collaborations with @stray otter !
Go check them out at https://discord.com/channels/569683781800296501/1252657041030250671
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Life from counter claim has been left?

And what is the collaboration
2 lizards?

well that was a good release
“I'm the best in the business, dear! The devil himself wouldn't dare touch you with such fashionable brims. Hell will freeze over before a single seam pops!”
Introducing to you, the...
Haberdasher
[Townsfolk]
If the Demon chooses their good neighbors (except you) with their ability, they immediately lose it until dawn, even if you died tonight.
The Haberdasher protects the Demon’s neighbours.
- If the Demon uses their ability and chooses one of their neighbours (except the Haberdasher), the Demon loses their ability immediately. Their ability no longer works until the next day.
- This happens even if the Haberdasher died in that same night. That is, if a Demon can kill multiple players at night, the Haberdasher will still protect the Demon’s good neighbours, even if they died first.
- The Demon’s good neighbours are the two good players closest to them — one clockwise and one anticlockwise. Skip any evil players.
- If the Haberdasher is chosen, nothing happens, even if they neighbour the Demon. The Demon still keeps their ability.
- If the Haberdasher neighbours the Demon, the next player after them is not protected.
How to Run:
While preparing the first night, mark the Demon’s good neighbours with SEWN reminders, except the Haberdasher themself.
At any time, even if the Haberdasher died that night, if the Demon chooses to use their ability on a SEWN player, the Demon immediately loses their ability — mark them with the NO ABILITY reminder. Finish resolving their ability and put them to sleep.
At dawn, the Demon regains their ability — remove the Haberdasher’s NO ABILITY reminder.
Json:
{
"id": "haberdasher_hblreleased",
"team": "townsfolk",
"name": "Haberdasher",
"ability": "If the Demon chooses their good neighbors (except you) with their ability, they immediately lose it until dawn, even if you died tonight.",
"image": [
"https://i.imgur.com/DGgTjM7.png",
"https://i.imgur.com/aet0ryA.png"
],
"reminders": [
"Sewn",
"Sewn",
"No Ability"
],
"firstNightReminder": "",
"otherNightReminder": "",
"firstNight": 0,
"otherNight": 0,
"jinxes": [
{
"id": "leviathan",
"reason": "If the Leviathan nominates & executes a Haberdasher-protected-player, the Haberdasher-protected-player does not die."
},
{
"id": "riot",
"reason": "If a Riot player nominates a Haberdasher-protected-player, the Haberdasher-protected-player does not die."
}
]
}
Jinxes:
Official Characters
-
Leviathan and Haberdasher: If the Leviathan nominates & executes a Haberdasher-protected-player, the Haberdasher-protected-player does not die.
-
Riot and Haberdasher: If a Riot player nominates a Haberdasher-protected-player, the Haberdasher-protected-player does not die.
HBL Characters
- Matsuraid and Haberdasher: If the Matsuraid is in play, votes for Haberdasher-protected players don’t count.
Basically Bloodwright
Gross I hate that guy
GODDAMNIT I THOUGHT THAT WAS DARK'S CHARACTER
Me too
it is lmao
I thought about it cause it had sewing needles in the icon
That's how good the collab is
Lmfao
I thought about it because I wanted to drink water
I'm killing myself
so this is the Sewfar
😔
What do you mean by we
👏
I don't speak french
haberdasher was me workshopping one of luis' ideas past recognition so its both of our characters now
(check out Ice's homebrews btw for stuff like showman)
What now
Haberdasher?
THIRD COLLABORATION?
Actually what's the second character

nah just some shameless promo
depends if you're going to keep trolling /j
😔
I'm just being funny
Well
At least I think I'm funny
But I question that sometimes
Anyways uh, the collaboration is just that you both made characters with eachother?
Well it was expected but imagine if we got bloodwright and playwright
we made the characters together eddy thats why its a collab
Yeah not their normal collaboration where Dark just does the icon
Poodwright
Does that mean Dark and Luis always collab?

because the ideas were both luis' but the final abilities were me taking the idea and running with it, in one way or another

workshopped together and we just decided its best if we say we made em tiger
together
not tiger
Tiger
🐅
Time for the 2nd character!
Next character tiger?
Better be fabled Luis..
“I scour the waves for a sign, an enemy. I prayed for the sailors pulled away from port town lovers, bone by bloated bone, that the sea shan't take her chosen more than man's unwitting sense of pride. The barnacles crept up my body from mangled toe to withered flesh, from hypothermic arm to dead glass eye, reduced to a spectral pearl you devour to survive. An anchor weighed down by neck and dragged me across stone and seabed, so my sight shall remain untainted by fog and storm. The tides corroded my body, saliva of salt and sand, to pour like an hourglass in a wreck. The old wood rotted with it, tied to the crows nest with old sail cloth to wander and wail. Sink, sank, sunk.”
Introducing to you, the...
Leftenent
[Minion]
“You poison good players who choose the Demon with their abilities, & then learn who they are. 1 good player might then learn you too.”
The Leftenent stays on lookout for the Demon.
- At any time, a player uses their ability and chooses the Demon, that player becomes poisoned immediately. Their ability no longer works.
- As soon as the Leftenent poisons a player, the Leftenent learns who they are, and their character. This happens even if the player was already drunk or poisoned.
- After the Leftenent learns someone they’ve poisoned, the Storyteller may then wake any good player and show them who the Leftenent is.
How to Run:
At any time, if a player chooses to use their ability on the Demon, this player immediately becomes poisoned — mark them with a POISONED reminder. Finish resolving this player’s ability and put them to sleep.
At the earliest opportunity, wake the Leftenent, point to the newly POISONED player(s) and show their character token(s). Put the Leftenent to sleep. Then you may choose to wake a good player, point to the Leftenent, and show the Leftenent character token. Put the good player to sleep.
Json:
{
"id": "leftenent_hblreleased",
"team": "minion",
"name": "Leftenent",
"ability": "You poison good players who choose the Demon with their abilities, & then learn who they are. 1 good player might then learn you too.",
"image": [
"https://i.imgur.com/Js8X3RY.png",
"https://i.imgur.com/VUrYX3t.png"
],
"reminders": ["Poisoned", "Poisoned", "Poisoned", "Poisoned", "Poisoned"],
"firstNightReminder": "",
"otherNightReminder": "",
"firstNight": 0,
"otherNight": 0,
"jinxes": [
{
"id": "summoner",
"reason": "Until a Demon is made, the Leftenent poisons and learns good players who choose the Summoner with their abilities. When a Demon is made, if they would be poisoned by the Leftenent, they are not."
},
{
"id": "plaguedoctor",
"reason": "If the Plague Doctor gives the Storyteller the Leftenent ability, a good player might learn who a Minion is instead of the Leftenent, when a player gets poisoned."
}
]
}
Jinxes:
Official Characters
-
Leftenent and Summoner: Until a Demon is made, the Leftenent poisons and learns good players who choose the Summoner with their abilities. When a Demon is made, if they would be poisoned by the Leftenent, they are not.
-
Leftenent and Plague Doctor: If the Plague Doctor gives the Storyteller the Leftenent ability, a good player might learn who a Minion is instead of the Leftenent, when a player gets poisoned.
ok
Expected matsu jinx
haber has one
So where's the Leech jinx?
please walk me through the need for that because i am not in the mood to think
@jagged frost quick add a Lleech jinx before anyone notices
So
time for a hot fix lmao
i mean what's the interaction with goon lmao
it's just the same as that
so hot it isn't out the oven
What
None?
Understand do I not
Goon still becomes the host but that's drunk wording
with either?
You said lose ability
So technically I guess it's just an interesting interaction?
yeah that lmao
Haber doesn't need a Lleech jinx?
Lose ability is technically different
It's bad tho
Like,
but how tho
And then Lleech poisoning comes into play afterwards
They don't create a host
it's mechanically the exact same
well yeah that's one way to run it lmao
why isn't it drunk?
tbf ask dark on that one lmao
like because i think them having no ability is loud bc it tells them they have no ability
Leech picks goon, gets drunked, so no poison and they can die until sober, but hosting goes through.
Here, they "lose ability" which is more absolute then the drunk condition. Drunk condition uses "lose ability" for understandable shorthand. So like, losing ability I would interpret as they don't get to host until the next night and can't die until choosing a host
whilst them being drunk you wake them as if they had one
But if you want to rule it that they can still die (I'm not sure how the "if and only if" statement works with a null value) then it's just an interesting interaction, no need for jinx
the change just matters for shab, really, but yeah
So, what is the final conclusion
I still don't understand

Is it just drunk first day
And then goon is poisoned
Or is the Lleech now eternally drunkened
By the goon
Can someone please enlighten me
Just drunk the first day but that's not important
Cause Dark has agreed that "losing ability" isn't the same as drunk here
loses ability is also relevant for acro
not really bc good neighbors
that too
Anyways, I'll go resize my icons
So wait what's the verdict here on Leech picking neighbors first night in a Haberdasher game?
I'd go with Dark's
i.e. if they host one of their neighbours, then the hosting gets moved to the next night
But that's not the question

The question is can they die
oh yeah
Yeah
Hence the null statement thing I was saying
they don't have their ability
Okay good
so they're done for if they do that
That's what I thought
but also why would you host a neighbour in a HD script 💀
Anyways
My face when Lleech chooses themselves so they wouldn't lose their ability to haberdasher
Maybe they can't read

That haberdasher is there
Lieutenant
not quite
It's misinfo + evil information without grim-peeking
So it works with damsel and heretic!!!!!
Can't wait
You can have a dreamer or something without it kinda being unbluffable
Are you {Good character}?
Haberdasher is so cracked and I love it
With each night death, you learn 2 players who aren't the demon
Haberdasher unironically provides cover for LoT which is fascinating
yeah it's mad lmao
Lord of TRings?
(also how does it work with Travellers)
tea lady aah






