Homebrew Brewery

[zinc aspen]

[cerulean creek]

On odd nights, Townsfolk information is reversed. After day 4, evil wins.

[winged estuary]

Whisperwillow (Demon) - Living players who are "mad" you are in-play might die. If no good are, evil wins at dusk.

Not sure if this counts as "public" but whatever

[wintry vault]

id say it can be either depending on how the ST runs it

[winged estuary]

Do you count Yaggababble as public? Al-Had? What's your criteria

[wintry vault]

i wouldnt say yagga is public normally, just that it can be public, but shouldnt unless a script is built around it

al-had definitely is public considering it has loud pings folllowed by easy to track deaths

[wintry vault]

ah i didnt even answer your question mb

id say just use common sense in terms of public or not

both you and yap's suggestions seem to follow that p well

just that an ST can make it public if they really want it to be

[split crater]

Evil wins at dusk if no nominator-nominee pair (both different) with at least 1 good vote (not the nominator or nominee) is aligned. After day 4, evil wins. [Some players are evil]

Ruining people’s fun since day 1

Put this on a Vortox script in a teensy hehe

[split crater]

Dead

Anyways

Does anyone have a prompt?

[ashen flax]

A minion which doesn't know the full evil team

[split crater]

Unformatted

Prompt: Minion(s) which do not learn the entire evil team.

There we go.

[ashen flax]

Thanks was thinking about other things while writing it

[split crater]

You start knowing 1 good & 1 evil character in-play & do not know evil. You gain the ability of the 1st one to die if you nominated them today & the 2nd survives execution once. [You are not part of Minion info]

Went a bit over the character limit but seems fine.

[winged estuary]

Probably a terrible idea, but the first thing that came to mind was:

Nightmare (Minion) - Once per game, during the day, publicly guess your team: If correct, your team wins. You & evil don’t learn the other.

Also works as a fun Alchemist ability tbh, basically a OPG Alsaahir but you don’t have to guess which is which

[ashen flax]

Seems okay, might lead to goodies having to play very evily to win which probably is fine

In a 1 minion game it might be a bit easy tho

[winged estuary]

Good players playing like evil is definitely a big benefit from this. Even if their ability fails (or they aren’t in play), it encourages worse plays from good to counteract it

[wanton ruin]

wait this isn’t the prompt but this has inspired me

Each day, you may publicly announce who the Demon is: if correct, evil wins at dusk, even if you’re executed.

[split crater]

Uncounterable

Unless you mean that the Demon gets executed.

In which case it’s weak.

[wanton ruin]

They don’t have to actually name their Demon - it’s primarily a tool for evil to manipulate who is being executed. If you think it’s false execute the Minion.

There is an issue where multiple people claim it, I will admit that.

[split crater]

Sure, the bluffing potential is strong.

But the thing is that there’s no way for good to counter random guessing.

[wanton ruin]

The character I just made knows who their Demon is? I said it wasn’t part of the prompt but Relic’s character inspired it.

[split crater]

Oh.

[winged estuary]

Yeah this Minion knows their Demon and the ability only works if they correctly name the actual Demon

[wanton ruin]

Yep!

Missed an increased number of S’ in interessssting 😔

[winged estuary]

What does (others are poisoned until dawn) meant to mean

Like people who falsely claim it get poisoned?

[wanton ruin]

If a player (not the Matrimamba) claims to be the Matrimamba and claims a player to be their demon, they are poisoned until dawn

[wanton ruin]

Yep

[winged estuary]

That doesn’t really stop the problem of multiple people claiming it in one day, nor does it do anything if it’s not in play and evils bluff it

[wanton ruin]

I mean, it definitely stops the Demon at a minimum (atleast to me)

But I get that

[winged estuary]

I mean, not really? If multiple people are claiming it in a day then good is almost required to execute one of the picks. If it’s the Demon then they win anyway, and if not then they lose anyway. So it doesn’t matter if the Demon is poisoned since the game is ending today anyway

[split crater]

Outsiders would love this

[spring cairn]

Well the way I’d look at this is that realistically whoever you claim is the demon will get nominated or you will so why not:

Matrimamba (Minion): Each day, if you publicly claimed to be the Matrimamba when nominating the demon: evil wins at dusk, even if you die.

Wait I rewrote it too many times oops

Matrimamba (Minion): Each day during the first nomination, if you publicly claimed to be the Matrimamba when nominating the demon: evil wins at dusk, even if you die.

[wanton ruin]

eh, I don’t like it having to nominate the demon personally, especially w it being the first

I think it’d have to be in the pre-nomination period, like psycho

[spring cairn]

What’s wrong with nominating the demon

Cause I feel like that’s already happening most of the time right

Like if you claim I’m the matrimamba and this is my demon you’ll get exed or the demon is exed

[old bane]

best example of this prompt is hannibal in fall of rome, very fun character

[wanton ruin]

It’s not a minion, but yes it’s an evil character that doesn’t know their team (even if one later becomes good)

[split crater]

Hannibal’s a Demon

Prompt: Characters which consult (and if said ability is used/answered/followed/etc. wrongly, may backfire)

First time making a prompt

[split crater]

Well

[quiet breach]

Prompt: A Character with a setup text that is themed

Ex: [-666 Outsiders]

[quiet breach]

Minion:Once per game, during the day, choose that for each outsider not-in-play, whoever wins, loses, and whoever loses, wins. [-? to +? Outsiders]

[sick gazelle]

I'd make it +1 or -1

tbh

[leaden heath]

I, personally, approve.

Ignore my nickname.

Irrelevant.

[winged estuary]

Arbiter (Minion) - Each night, choose an Outsider: Their ability works twice until dusk [+1 Outsider, you choose which are in-play]

[steep holly]

in that case you could instantly win at some base o counts since you know for sure wins are flipped

[winged estuary]

Specifically at base 2, and if there’s no good-sided Outsider mod (which there probably should be on the script)

[ashen flax]

at base 0 it still works

cause -1 would still make it 0

[split crater]

Prompt: A character with “On your 2nd night” as part of their ability.

[sick gazelle]

Mimic (Outsider):
On your 2nd night, become the opposing alignment & character of a dead player.

might be kinda broken if a Minion is executed 😭

typed it without thinking abt it

[sick ermine]

Prompt:
An Outsider that wants to stay hidden but is incentivized to publically claim its role. (Like Spartacus in FoR)

[winged estuary]

Doofus (Outsider) - If an evil player publicly guesses you (once), your team loses. Each day, if you publicly claim to be the Doofus & are the only good player to do so, permanently lose your ability at dusk.

[split crater]

Damsel variations are aplenty.

[winged estuary]

I mean yeah that’s the easiest way to make “Outsider that wants to stay hidden” work

[zinc aspen]

That’s what I thought of

Even if I didn’t fit the prompt fully

[winged estuary]

Me on my way to nominate myself every day

[zinc aspen]

well technically this was the original

If an evil player has nominated you, then even if you die after, on the final day, the least voted alive player is executed instead. You cannot nominate yourself.

[normal pike]

Hm...

[zinc aspen]

Actually you know what

Screw you guys I’m fine with them doing that

Go ahead, lose a nomination

It’ll only be your downfall

[split crater]

Prompt: A character that causes alignments to change, tied to the actions of other players.

[winged estuary]

Recruiter (Traveller) - Each night, you may choose a player: The first that agrees secretly becomes your alignment. You don’t know the Demon if evil.

Can turn a good player evil or an evil player good, but has trouble convincing people of their actual alignment. Notably the Recruiter doesn’t learn when someone agrees, so a player could fake agreeing to bait the Traveller into revealing their alignment, so neither can really fully trust the other. But if they can trust the Recruiter, it’s very strong either way

And yes it’s silly, but we need more Travellers here

[languid narwhal]

I think that the recruiter turning people good is wayyy stronger than the recruiter turning people evil

bc turning someone evil is helpful

turning someone good is game winning

[winged estuary]

Game winning if you can convince them you're actually good

[brittle stone]

Wouldn't they know for sure, since they wouldn't suddenly be good otherwise?

Oh wait. Is the idea that the player won't get told "you are now good"?

[inland kraken]

wait if you're chosen first and you're evil, wouldn't it make sense to out everything to the recruiter?

assuming you accept

[brittle stone]

On Night 1 that does seem totally foolproof, but not on future nights. The good Recruiter may have picked a good player N1, who accepted, and then an evil player N2. Then the evil player loses by revealing

[inland kraken]

right, but it'll still choose a demon and/or minion on n1 some of the time, right?

[winged estuary]

Correct. It’s the same as an Ogre

[inland kraken]

it seems a little bit game-ending if it converts an evil player to good on the firs tnight

[winged estuary]

Players can deny it and then claim they accepted to try to get the Recruiter to spill their alignment, so it’s risky for both sides

If I’m good and chosen, I can deny and claim I accepted it and out a fake evil team to try to get the Recruiter to out evil which is funny :)

It’s definitely a bit swingy especially n1, but I like the insanity

[inland kraken]

ah right

i see

i do like that it's very unpredictable later on though

[winged estuary]

Both sides have to trust the other, but if they do then it’s a big advantage. Or at minimum it confirms them to each other

[sick gazelle]

VIP (Traveller):
The Storyteller makes decisions in your team's favor. You are the alignment of a living neighbor.

Technically the other way around

The alignment influences the decisions lol

[winged estuary]

It needs to not have evil info

[sick gazelle]

True

I think its fine if it doesnt

[normal pike]

Starspawn(Outsider)

• If you die today or tonight, a good Townsfolk becomes evil.

-# yes it's name is taken from BTOS2 mod from town of Salem 2.

Oblivious(Outsider)

• You do not know your true alignment, each night you might switch alignments

[cerulean creek]

oblivious is just horrible mate

[zinc aspen]

Yeah it’s just

Idk how to say this nicely bc it’s not fun in the slightest

At least with Ogre you actually have a clue

Starspawn is just meh

Has the issue of being a better Sweetheart

[winged estuary]

Also… neither of these fit the prompt? They aren’t tied to the actions of any other players

[vapid pebble]

Yesman (Outsider) - Each night*, you become the alignment of the last player who voted today.

[lusty pollen]

"im bad with charecter names" Demon: Each Night* pick a player, they die. Each night before you pick a player, if a player nominated you, they flip alignments then swap characters with you [No minion & demon info]

[cerulean creek]

if a goodie noms you good wins

wait no

this says change alignments not swap

infinite evils

also Each night*, choose a player: they die. If you were nominated, tonight you swap characters with them & they switch alignments.

[sick gazelle]

mfw this can make every single player evil

[lusty pollen]

minions become good

you can also still be exicuted

since its not even if dead

also its not ment to be good lol

[sick gazelle]

okay 😭

[lusty pollen]

it fits the prompt

also i think i could make it work on a script

with lots of allignment changes

[split crater]

Demon self-noms then kills itself.

[lusty pollen]

only a nerd does that

(id fix it with something)

[quiet breach]

hi

[split crater]

Prompt: A Townsfolk character starts knowing a phrase.

Notes: Your character can be of any type, it just needs to make sure a Townsfolk character (does not need to be specified) must start knowing a phrase.

[quiet breach]

"You start knowing a phrase. You learn a player of a different character type than all of the players who have said it today. "

[winged estuary]

What if all types said it? You'd learn a "no"?

[split crater]

Assume so.

[quiet breach]

trying to add a false clause on a no

[split crater]

Or you learn someone who can register simultaneously as different character types

[quiet breach]

(because like.... flowergirl.)

[quiet breach]

they'd still be the same character type as someone before

[split crater]

Obviously this should not happen

[winged estuary]

Whisperer (Townsfolk) - You start knowing a phrase. For each 2 times you said it publicly, a good player cannot die. If an evil player guesses you (once per night), you are poisoned.

[split crater]

You start knowing a phrase: if evil said it today, all good who say it are poisoned until dawn, even if drunk or poisoned. If only good says it, you and your neighbours are sober & healthy.

Probably weak

[sick gazelle]

(Townsfolk):
You start knowing a phrase. Each night, if you publicly said it today, learn a non-demon player. If the Demon privately guesses it (once a day), you lose this ability.

[languid narwhal]

why can’t I just say it to the storyteller and tell no one else

[split crater]

It’s problematic itself so it’s getting scrapped

[wooden socket]

So it was problematic so it got cancelled

Where have I heard this before

[sick ermine]

I love that. Maybe do the Demon guessing once per game. Or get rid of it. Depending on what power level you need.

[split crater]

Prompt: Characters that lose abilities when there are less than or equal to 4 players alive.

[zinc aspen]

Based prompt

[cerulean creek]

wow i literally tweaked one of mine to do that earlier today

well not really since i havent pushed it

[split crater]

The prompt has died.

RIP the prompt.

[sick gazelle]

Unsure if this is Townsfolk or Outsider

If less than 5 players live, your most recent nominee won't die the first time they should, even if you are dead.

edited it

to be more of an outsider

[split crater]

That seems inverse of the prompt

[sick gazelle]

oh wait

I didnt see lose

lmao

I read "Characters abilities less than 4 players alive"

whoopsies 🔥

[sick gazelle]

(Townsfolk)

If 5 or more players live, your most recent nominee won't die the first time they should, even if you are dead.

boom

im amazing

[brisk sandal]

sniper

[split crater]

A pair of eyes stare at you from the dark.

“Where’s the ability text, Hyper?”

[brisk sandal]

Each night, you may choose a player: at dusk, if they have more evil than good votes, they are executed. If 4 players or less live, you lose this ability.

happy?

smh

[zinc aspen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1234165079646408714/1383951260474151044/IRember.gif

[dull sluice]

out of curiosity - how many of these do you have?

or are you just making these on the spot

[zinc aspen]

About 7 I think?

[zinc aspen]

I'm tempted to make one that says "Trigger Happy: If you misuse a Luis S gif, he becomes disappointed in you"

bc people keep misusing I Rember and NWMbb

[cerulean creek]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/577980138155933697/1384228090124697730/IRember.gif

[dull sluice]

nightmanwatch but better

[zinc aspen]

Wdym

:clueless:

[ember gull]

It's a reference to this:

[vapid pebble]

Oh I think Luis made smth like that once

[ember gull]

Y'know what?

Prompt: An ability that makes Luis S disappointed in you.

[wintry vault]

Borderwatchman (Townsfolk) - [-1 Outsider]

[zinc aspen]

(Read what Axo said again)

[ember gull]

(Jokes on you, I can't read!)

[ashen flax]

Each night, choose a player: they die. [+1 Outsider]

felt a bit too weak with only getting an extra kill on the first night so I added an outsider to balance it

[quiet breach]

Luis I have a new idea for a luis token

"If a townsfolk removes an outsider, the game, the game implodes, and everyone loses."

[brittle plaza]

Each night, make an ability that sucks. [All are outsiders]

B)

ends the game on the spot

[split crater]

Prompt: A character which learns word(s) that are not names of abilities or roles/characters.

[merry hound]

wording feels a bit janky

[split crater]

Technically you could also have a N1 death.

Case in point, Tinker.

[vapid pebble]

Townsfolk - Each day, learn a letter in the Demon's name

[split crater]

Each day*, you may visit the Storyteller to choose a dead player: you learn a word related to the Storyteller’s reason for their death.

This might work too.

[merry hound]

that implies the storyteller killed them

[split crater]

Atheist, Yaggababble, Legion and Lil’ Monsta:

[merry hound]

that’d be a hell of a script

i think the lack of a colon was a big reason of why the wording felt wrong though

totally didnt typo wrong as weong and then as wtong, nope nuh uh nosiree

[merry brook]

Satan (Demon): Each night*, choose a player: they turn evil. [No Minions]

[winged estuary]

Partier (Townsfolk) - Each night, choose two players: If both are on the same team, they may choose to become your alignment

[split crater]

Do people actually find fun in disappointing Luis?

[zinc aspen]

joke's on you, i think that's cool

[winged estuary]

I was actually close to a cool idea which is why I tacked on turning evils good to make it bad. And it’s NWM but better

[split crater]

Problem is that now it is meta to hit the Rev pair every once in a while.

[zinc aspen]

only if you proc

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/577980138155933697/1365711690531995759/Wowee.gif

[winged estuary]

It doesn’t say “not yourself” :)

[split crater]

Sure love the Revs being Goon

[winged estuary]

I do like the idea of a character choosing two and trying to hit aligned players for some benefit, but idk what

Actually you know what

Prompt: A character that chooses two players and gains a benefit if the two are aligned

[split crater]

This prompt died. 💔

[lusty pollen]

a little late but a role i have for a script im working on fits it perfectly

Savior (townsfolk): You start knowing a word or phase. The first extra evil each day to say said word or phase turns good in the night

[zinc aspen]

That’s cool but workshops are for making new characters

[old bane]

Prompt: Good character that can wake with other players during the night

I was thinking of something like ‘Once per game, at night, choose a player. You wake when they do. The demon, if chosen, wakes arbitrarily’ but it is obviously a bad idea to do this with a good ability, was just in my head cause of wraith

[sick gazelle]

??? (Townsfolk):
You start knowing who a Minion player is & you wake at night with them. If they die from execution, you become evil tonight & a good player learns you are in-play, even if dead.

this is silly and not balanced at all 😭

@split crater why react with that exactly

its very different from ET lol

[split crater]

Just reminds of

That’s what the prompt reminds of

[old bane]

Thats pretty cool, maybe if the minion became good when they die lol

[winged estuary]

Prompt: A character that has a different effect depending on if it interacts with a good or evil player/character (ex. Cannibal, Snake Charmer, but not Village Idiot)

You should try to come up with new characters here

[zinc aspen]

-# with all workshops

[bronze crown]

Craven: Each night*, you learn how many steps from today’s executee to a living evil player. If the executee is evil, gain false info.

[winged estuary]

“Here” as in this thread, yes

[zinc aspen]

Yeah that’s why I made it 😭

[wintry vault]

Gruk the Babyeater (Townsfolk) - If a player died by execution today, choose 2 players tonight: if they were good, chosen players cannot die tonight.

[winged estuary]

I dona think you have to specify both “living player” and “died by execution”

[wintry vault]

oh right

https://tenor.com/view/marcoelprro-gif-27525382

tan k u

[winged estuary]

Prompt: A character who wakes with others, excluding evil info. Current examples include Evil Twin, Wraith, Boffin, and Fearmonger+Vizier

[ocean hinge]

Garfunkle (townsfolk): if you die the game becomes normal [The evil team is 1 to 4 marionettes and a lil monsta]

[ocean hinge]

Mason (Townsfolk): On the second night, the Masons and Evil players may open their eyes [+0 to +2 Masons]

i didn't really word it right but that's the vauge idea idk

not like wraith but like a mason night phase

[zealous valve]

I see the intent. It’s interesting

[leaden heath]

Defeatist (Tf) - Each day, privately visit the storyteller to learn 1 thing you should have done since dusk, but didn't. [+1 Outsider]

[winged estuary]

I like the +1 Outsider for balance, it really brings it all together

[leaden heath]

Thank you, thank you.

[zinc aspen]

Absolutely criminal

[zinc aspen]

See, this is just pure disappointment

Bc the rest of the ability is great

but what the fuck is that that o-mod doing there

[leaden heath]

:3c

[leaden heath]

I specifically speedran coming up with an ability that had nothing to do with Outsiders or even character types in general. Chose day action as spice to move it along faster.

[ember gull]

I like how the responses to this have (almost) all gone with O-mod or messing with the Evil team!

... this probably doesn't fit my own prompt, but...

Balance: Outsider and Minion numbers are identical. This number is arbitrary and decided by the ST at startup. [+? Outsiders, +? Minions, players may have identical roles.]

also, adds prompt to potential Clocktober prompts /sarcasm

[zinc aspen]

Holy moly

[wintry vault]

Prompt: Evil character that can consistently deal with powerful Townsfolk that reveal themselves.

(I noticed all Base 3 scripts have at-least one of these - Poisoner, Pit-Hag, Assassin, and Pukka, and I wanna see if people can workshop or even predict one of these characters.)

[winged estuary]

Fenomouth (Minion) - Each night*, you may choose a player & guess their good character: If correct, they are poisoned. If incorrect, your previous guesses become healthy.

[wintry vault]

ooo that sounds really cool, albeit a bit wordy

[wintry vault]

trying to keep it under 130 chars: Each night*, you may guess a player's character: if correct, they're poisoned. If incorrect, your poisons are removed.

[winged estuary]

Could be shorted to:

Fenomouth (Minion) - Each night*, you may choose a player & guess their good character. Correct guesses are poisoned until you guess incorrectly.

[wintry vault]

oh that also works 👍

now pin that in your brain and see this become real in 2026...

🤞

[winged estuary]

lol

[wintry vault]

(we really need more direct anti-full-claim evil characters like this, its tough scriptbuilding really good scripts without more of 'em)

[ocean hinge]

I want it clear I just made poppygrower

[ocean hinge]

like literally just poppygrower

[winged estuary]

No? None of the evil team have any abilities and they all receive bluffs while thinking they’re not evil, while the Demon kills are arbitrary, that’s very different to Poppygrower

[split crater]

This is not consistent but middling

[split crater]

That’s Poppied Legion

Very unserious reply

[sick gazelle]

Each night*, choose a player: they die, & if you guess their character correctly, choose another player: they die.

Simple demon, no doubt in my mind its been done before somewhere but I think it works

[wintry vault]

i mean... what if they're protected

poisoner, pit-hag, assassin, and pukka poison bypass that reliably and consistently

except if assassin is drunkened by minstr or courtier but thats taters and toters

[sick gazelle]

I didnt know you cared about that

[wintry vault]

sorry, that was the intention of the prompt

since any demon can also deal with a powerful townsfolk that reveals themselves

its moreso about consistently dealing with them, bypassing any protection they may be having

although there isnt any protection in SNV, pit-hags applications outside of it do work similarly

[sick gazelle]

Kalypta (Demon):
Each night*, choose a player: they die. Their neighbors, if good, are drunk & learn false info until dusk.

does this work?

[wintry vault]

id say yeah

[sick gazelle]

bluffable by any demon by just killing their neighbor

to cause paranoia

[quiet breach]

Each night*, you may guess a player's character: if correct, they're poisoned until you guess incorrectly.

[wintry vault]

ooo thats also better than mine, neat!

[sick gazelle]

I worry that this is incredibly strong and almost unsolvable

[quiet breach]

I'm simply rewording it

I mean, if you hide your role well you can kind of guess that, (X thing) didn't happen

[sick gazelle]

Each night, choose a character: good players that are mad they are this character today are poisoned until dawn tomorrow.

this could be interesting

[split crater]

Ooh

[wintry vault]

oooo thats an absurdly well designed minion

i likey

although i feel its a bit weak

not by sure, but comparatively to the other minions i compared

[sick gazelle]

its a weaker poisoner

but i still think its healthier and more fun

[wintry vault]

base.d...

[sick gazelle]

I'd prefer playing in games with this minion rather in games with a poisoner

[ocean hinge]

you just explained poppygrower from my pov

[zinc aspen]

But that’s not what poppygrower is??????

[normal pike]

Prompt
Woah look!, make a Ability based on The People of BOTC to tell em how much you appreciate em!

-# Moderators,Players,Storytellers,Hb makers,Scriptmakers included!

Ex:
Bluwe(Demon)

• Bees Bees Bees 🐝

[split crater]

||Each night, choose a player: a living player within 2 steps of them is drunk until dusk.||

Raise you, the worst idea ever.

[split crater]

The channel is dead :real:

[split crater]

Prompt: A character which affects neighbours (of their choice, or of their own).

[sick ermine]

(TF): Each night, chose a player. Learn a character type the chosen player's neighbours dont have.

[quiet breach]

You know what

somewhat different than normal

Prompt: Invent a meta for Alch-DA to make it a BMR-like TF

and yes please intentionally use the choose again

[ashen flax]

Each night, choose a player: if they would die until dusk, they might not.

Each night, choose a player (not the same as last night): if they would die until dusk, they might not.

Not sure if I got the prompt but this was my interpretation of it

[quiet breach]

As in it’s still just exe survival

But find a way to make the choose-agains into a BMR tf

[ashen flax]

This isn't exactly that but I think it's close enough

[normal pike]

???(TF)

Each night* choose a player, if they were nominated and executed by a player of their alignment, they might not die.

[normal pike]

Seeker(TF) - Each night learn how many players neighbour a character of their type.

Slacker(O) - Your good neighbours might misregister as evil tonight, even if dead.

Enchantress(M) - Each night, choose a player. They or there neighbours are poisoned tonight.

[winged estuary]

1. Doesn’t affect neighbors, and also why is this EN if the information won’t change (barring character changers)? Wouldn’t YSK make more sense
2. “Tonight”? What is that word doing there? Also “misregister” isn’t a game term
3. You found a way to make Poisoner more broken, cool. But also why does it not affect them during the day too? Usually this ability would be “until dusk”. Also it’s “their”, and it should have a colon

[split crater]

Prompt: A character that must register falsely if poisoned or drunk.

[cerulean creek]

what

isnt that just a straight up ability

a bad one but still

[split crater]

Yes

Tired and can’t think of better prompts yet

[cerulean creek]

bruh

prompt: character with no leaves or flower (no reminder tokens, no night actions, no setup changes)

[winged estuary]

Big ass prompt

[winged estuary]

Anarchist (Townsfolk) - Executed evil players always die.

[zinc aspen]

Not necessarily, it’s just part of one

[ember gull]

Villager (Townsfolk): You have no ability.

[wooden socket]

the idea that the average person has no ability but being an idiot gives you one

[sick breach]

??? (Outsider): if a demon dies, you die instead. you are mad you are not the ??? or a player might be executed

[ember gull]

In reality, being an idiot just gives you the illusion of an ability. Just that one of them is consistently lucky in their guesses.

[cerulean creek]

this instaloses in f3

and also confirms who demon is

[cerulean creek]

like in general

[sick breach]

alr... may rework later

[wanton ruin]

Prompt - There is no such thing as a Vortox

Create a new character which contains the phrase “safe from the Demon”.

[cerulean creek]

damn you pyn, after i make warlock?

[split crater]

💤

[cerulean creek]

make it

not use an existing

[split crater]

Good lord this is mine

[cerulean creek]

i know

you make something new in workshops not use what you made already

[split crater]

It’s a joke 😭

You start knowing a phrase: good who say it (except yourself) are safe from Demons tonight, but if an evil publicly guesses it (once each), evil wins.

[split crater]

Hyper did the same exact thing 💀

[grand parcel]

Unnamed (Townsfolk) - Players you nominate are safe from the Demon, until nominated by an evil player.

[split crater]

Sounds familiar

/j before someone sics the “I Rember” on me

[cerulean creek]

sounds cool tho its pretty token hell

have a limit or a time period

[grand parcel]

yeah no this is definitely an issue

though i was hoping this doesn't live for more than 5 days/games last 5 days or less/evil players figure out who this is and start nominating accordingly

[ashen flax]

Other players you nominate are safe from the Demon, until nominated by an evil player.

think this would work

but being able to nom yourself means there is no threat requiring you to hide so noone else has to nom but you and another person nominating the person the town wants exed

thus this can get off many protections during the game and and be a quite bad evil bluff

"If you nominate a player I have nominated without discussing it first, you are evil"

[grand parcel]

wait why is it a bad evil bluff?

-# (I agree it probably shouldn't be able to protect itself)

[ashen flax]

because you can't kill the players you protect without confirming that you don't exist

[grand parcel]

ah yeah good point

[zinc aspen]

Not really acc, you only need 5

[normal pike]

?? - Each night choose a player and a character, if correct they are safe from the demon tonight.

[pliant plover]

??? (tf)

the neighbors of today's executee are safe from the demon tonight.

[ocean hinge]

Prompt: A role that self kills

[split crater]

You start knowing a night: you can only & must die on that night. Then, learn if you would have died without this ability.

[wintry vault]

> Doomsayer (Townsfolk) - If an evil player nominated you today, today's execution instead kills you (painfully)!

meant to be paired with exe redirection chars and what not

[split crater]

Blunder ???

[wintry vault]

albeit there are little that exist atm in homebrew

oh wait i just realized this is just an escape artist alt

ahhhh

f

[late crystal]

Hey gang

I'm trying to make a dnd themed script

One of my Demons is gonna be a Dragon

And I want it to be the BBEG it deserves to be

I was thinking about having all players know who the Dragon is, and trying to create a new way for good team to wind up winning

My problem is trying to create an alternate win condition for the good team other than killing the demon, or steps they have to take before they can kill the demon

[split crater]

Usually for Demons that are publicly known, the alternative win condition is to kill all the Minions.

[late crystal]

I was thinking about that tbh

I'm gonna need to add more information to my town in order for them to find the minions

Another idea I had was removing the "All players know" and instead, giving the Dragon a buff if they claim to be the Dragon publicly

[normal pike]

Firebourne(Demon)
Everyone knows you are in-play, good can not win while all minions are alive. each night* a player might die.

[winged estuary]

This sounds really boring? You can still kill the Demon, so after you do you have infinite time to gather info and slowly pick off the Minions

Same is somewhat true of Evil Twin but S&V has Pit-Hag built in and also has a loss condition if you kill the wrong twin

[zinc aspen]

(It’s also been done like a million times)

[lusty pollen]

a role me and elden came up with a while ago

Thanatophobia (Townsfolk): Each night* learn something good that can happen, you can choose to make it happen. if you do, you die.

[brittle stone]

I don't think this works as intended. Without an "even if dead" clause, it only has any effect at all on alternate wincons like Alsaahir and Cult Leader

[split crater]

The good thing is “You can’t die tonight.”

🔥

[split crater]

Prompt: Demons with a “You… start knowing” in their ability (“…” can be blank).

[winged estuary]

Lurks Beneath (Demon) - You start knowing your ability. Each day, all learn a piece of it.

Maybe overdone but it’s fun

[wintry vault]

you cant go wrong with a different-each-game demon, i like it

[ocean hinge]

kill guy (demon) - each night kill a guy, You start knowing a specific good player, if they are executed you kill 2 guys now

100% of my effort went into this trust

[split crater]

You & an opposing player know each other: both can’t die if 5 or more non-Travelers live. Each night*, choose a player: they die.

[languid narwhal]

this is a thrall tbc

[split crater]

?

[languid narwhal]

evil character that hurts evil

[split crater]

Ah

[languid narwhal]

the problem is that it has all the downside of evil twin, with none of the upside

stapled onto the flagbearer

[wintry vault]

Prompt:

• 4 or more sentences within the 162 character limit, anything goes.

[meager granite]

Samedi (Minion): The 1st time you die, you live but register as dead. Living votes don't count. Vote tokens aren't spent. A majority isn't required.

[wintry vault]

honestly banger...

minion voudon sounds p fun

(fun fact, this prompt came up cause i was able to cram 5 sentences in 130 characters for an Outsider idea i have for the future >:] )

[meager granite]

If I wasn't making it for the prompt I'd probably chuck in some &'s instead of making it 4 sentences

[wintry vault]

fairs

i also can use some &'s for what i just mentioned

[meager granite]

The 1st time you die, you live but register as dead. Living votes don't count & a majority isn't required. Vote tokens aren't spent.

[wintry vault]

u really should plop that into your collection

even as i read over yours to add to the script building advice doc, i see more and more pop up lol

(sorry thats taking so long, college work hggnnhnngNGNHGJHJHJ)

[meager granite]

Yeah no worries lol

I'm nearing the cap (100)

I'm at... 93 with this one?

[wintry vault]

i already reached mine LMAO

im waiting to find an artist who can take a commission on #100

seal that as the last of Volume 1

[meager granite]

I seeee

[wintry vault]

and do the Cryptid stuff/Misc SCP stuff for Volume 2

[wintry vault]

by the way, what artist do you know i can reach out too? i think darkartist is busy nowdays with other stuff

since im seing ur stuff is able to get art added for it

[meager granite]

Oh I make the token art for mine

I use free svgs I find online tho

And make them token-ish

[wintry vault]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-strange-mind-blown-gif-14803654

[meager granite]

With the textures and stuff

[wintry vault]

i cant commit to art well cause im nearing carpel tunnel cause of... you guessed it... college

also i just dont do well under stress :(

[meager granite]

Fair

Speaking of art

I won't add this minion just yet

Since I'm doing Tirbuffet tomorrow

& currently

Every character has art

At the very least placeholder art

[wintry vault]

character art... my beloeved :(

god the cryptid stuff would be nice to get art for

lot of stuff like loveland frog, flatwoods monster, lockness monster, urayuli, irijaq, babay/baga yaga

[split crater]

Only the dead may nominate. Only the living vote. You learn executees’ alignments. You may only vote once a day, even if dead.

Probably terrible idea.

[wintry vault]

i imagine minion?

[split crater]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Made this in mind for Travellers but it could be anything else it wanted

[wintry vault]

reverse voud on...

[split crater]

Yeah

Ok I think I burned the kitchen

Actually 4 sentences though

[ocean hinge]

I was gonna pull a character from my homebrew but to my surprise even with hitting 162 like 7 times I have never made 4 sentences

I unfortunately reworded them to be better 😞

[wintry vault]

for a better challenge, make it at or less 130 characters :)

[ocean hinge]

Prisoner (Outsider): You die at night*. Your good neighbors die with you. If nominated, you are drunk tonight. You can't nominate yourself.

@wintry vault hows this ^

[wintry vault]

ooooo thats clever

but kinda nullified since noms are free unless u pair with anti nom characters

[ocean hinge]

I think it's fine given if executed it's good neighbors die

though it could be nicer

it would pair better with a minion/demon that wants to be nommed

this could be funny on a hermit golem script

[split crater]

Virgin

Witch

Harpy

[ocean hinge]

princess, acrobat, cannibal, zealot, vizier

I think there's something here

towncrier flowergirl even

idk

[split crater]

I have an interesting demon

The wording is a bit stiff though

Evil wins at dusk if no player nominated another aligned player with minimum 1 good vote (not nominator/nominee) or after Day 4. [Some players are evil]

More comprehensively, if no nominations occured where both nominator and nominee are of the same alignment (with at least 1 good vote not of either), evil wins. After Day 4, evil wins.

[ocean hinge]

Each day, if no good player is nominated by another good player, and voted by yet another good player, evil wins. After day 4, evil wins.

[split crater]

Not really just good

It’s kinda so evil can bluff it with results

[ocean hinge]

I don't think there's a reason for evil to bluff it

[winged estuary]

Why would evil bluff it when they could just win instead

It’d be like a Demon sinking in final 3 to bluff Soldier

[meager granite]

Prompt:

A character that has this as it's icon!
Context: New scans found tattoos on the mummy of a Siberian woman! I thought one of the designs looked cool for a minion or demon icon

[void eagle]

Ravager (Demon): Each night*: choose a player; if drunk or poisoned, they die, and you may choose again, otherwise they are poisoned.

[wintry vault]

Watch me dance. Watch them eat.

> Rataputapitapataratamatapama (Minion) - You start knowing 2 players that are poisoned & 1 phrase. If you didn't publicly say it today, they are safe from you until dusk.

[wheat notch]

Carnage (Minion): Each night*, if a good player did not nominate and execute a good player today, choose a player: they die.

[wintry vault]

oh my glob i was literally going to post that at first

no joke

exact same fucking idea

[wheat notch]

that's hilarious

[wintry vault]

decided to change it to a sentence-based thing cause i read the above text and saw 'mummy' and thought 'ok fuck it lets do magic instead'

[wintry vault]

Prompt:

> An evil character with possible positive and negative Outsider-mod that isn't hurt by having less Outsiders in-play.

Thought about how weird the Godfather is designed considering it has possible negative O-mod on it but is hurting its own ability by doing so, requiring the ST to make a worser bag for good in response. So, I'd like to see a evil character that can do what the Godfather does but better.

[zealous valve]

(friendly reminder that Godfather -1 does add to the ability because it makes executiong Outsiders more of a necesitty, which also helps +1 Godfather more than if it were only +1)

[wintry vault]

true, but that feels applicable to any [-1 or +1 Outsider] character to then exist

nothing is specific to the Godfather's killing on outsider death that is helped by -1 outsider

[zealous valve]

I mean, if you're not counting how bluffing in the abscene of an Outsider affects it other mode, I dont really get what you want here

Unless you want something like Elluna's Despoina, where the character gets a better secondary effect for removing an Outsider

[steep holly]

yes but it has 2 abilities, +1 buffs killing, -1 buffs knowing in play outsiders

[wintry vault]

kinda. i was looking for an effect where having less outsiders would benefit evil

i remember seeing something like Each night*, choose a player: they die. You die if & only if all Townsfolk are dead. [-1 to +1 Outsider]

[wintry vault]

how does -1 buff knowing inplay outsiders? its not like you know anything more or less from it

-1 only really helps just for bluffing space, but nothing intrinsic to the godfather

[zealous valve]

Not really, because Godfather only gets kills by executing OUtsiders

Making outsiders more plausible bluffs exploits that both ways. It lets evils bluffing -1 have an excuse to not be killed. And it feeds +1 Godfathrs who fool the town that way

[wintry vault]

ah now i see

makes sense

although in my experience, godfather doesnt feel as damaging to deter this most of the time

you could achieve something stronger with You start knowing the in-play Outsiders. If an Outsider then good player are executed in a row, evil wins. [-1 or +1 Outsider]

[cerulean creek]

speeding up the game is strong

and it can be masked as another kill

[zealous valve]

well assassin is 1 kill & that is pretty damaging

Yes Assassin kets the kill whenver, but Godfather has a different speciality in warping the Outsider lanscape. Plus, if it got a kill, then it may very well have added an Outsider & without making the claims landscape easier for good

[cerulean creek]

you can falsely ping gamba and shit

thats dangerous

good doesnt want to give evil more control over kills

so gf -1 protects evils bluffing outsider since they might be a +1

[zealous valve]

You can even fake a +1 having both the Godfather & the Demon bluff Outsiders in a -1 game

[wintry vault]

also unrelated subject but we really need more consistent -1 Outsider Minions in homebrew

all we have so far is Corpse Walker

[meager granite]

You mean [-1 Outsider]? Or just hard negative mod

Because we have soft negative mod in Marionette & mayyyybe xaan depending on where you draw the line on soft/hard o-mod

[wintry vault]

id say characters that replace characters arent consistent enough as -1 omod unfortunately

xaan i wouldnt count since its arbitrary

[meager granite]

Right I'm asking what you mean by "consistent"

[wintry vault]

just [-1 Outsider] is good enough

[meager granite]

Do you mean "Always removes an outsider e.g. Vigormortis" or "Always has the ability to remove an outsider e.g. Godfather"

[wintry vault]

always removes an outsider like vigor

[meager granite]

Ah

Cause I have popinjay but that's -1 to +1

I have Moreau which is -? to +1

And that's my negative o-mod

[wintry vault]

i looked at both - popinjay seems fun, although moreau looks a bit weak

[meager granite]

Yeah it is

[zealous valve]

How does Moreau sub in the tokens?

Is it just like Kazali where they learn they’ve changed & have a TF bluff?

[meager granite]

Yeah

It's worded like Kazali cause it works like kazali

[zealous valve]

But Moreau can create any number up to base + other o mod characters + 1

And can stop creating to easily bluff that they are an Outsider

[meager granite]

Yep

[wintry vault]

thats the idea, but i feel as though the weakness comes in the fact that it has to replace outsider tokens, revealing that it is in play

[split crater]

@wintry vault

How to make a stupid demon 101:

A good player is. Each night*, choose a player (not you): they die. Your team loses if you die to execution & wins if dead else.

@wintry vault

[merry brook]

what

[wanton ruin]

genuinely unintelligible

[ashen flax]

Have I understood this correctly?

A good player has the ability "Each night*, choose another player: they die. Evil wins if you die by execution, if you die in another way, good wins.

[wanton ruin]

and if that is intended

night win </4

[split crater]

No lol

Good try

Though

Prompt: Abilities that function or can be used twice per game.

[leaden heath]

Celebrity (Tf) - The 1st 2 times you vote, it secretly counts negatively.

[split crater]

Also 1 of the words really helped thanks

[split crater]

Twice per game, at night, choose that a nominator of those ‘about to die’ tomorrow are executed at dusk instead.

[leaden heath]

What character type?

[split crater]

Minion

[brave hemlock]

Does nothing to self noms

[quiet breach]

Not the fearmonger cheese

[split crater]

Sob

[wintry vault]

Prompt: Character based off your current primary profession (either post-secondary education major, job you're currently in, hobby of specific skill set, etc).

[quiet breach]

Uhhhhhh

Coughing Baby(Townsfolk):On the first night, if the Nuclear Bomb is in play, you die.

[wintry vault]

https://tenor.com/view/ena-joel-g-ena-yep-yep-yep-yep-mhm-gif-13395497294351024913

[normal pike]

Veterinarian(Demon)

• Woof woof I can send animals to kill you

this is a Joke.

[normal pike]

Gaslighter(Minion)

• Each night, choose a player. they're ability misregisters today as false.

"Hm yes, you are totally right."

• Based off my personal interest to BOTC, and how I can be gaslit persuaded to execute someone by mere text.

[vapid pebble]

Prompt: Make a character who's entire ability text is 10 words or less

(was originally gonna be 5, but that felt too limiting)

[zealous valve]

Siren (Outsider): You & your alive neighbors are never safe from death

(could also be evil)

But death was my first idea

actually... exe survival makes that a problem

[winged estuary]

Pestilent (Outsider) - If executed, players who voted for you might die tonight.

[zealous valve]

So many deaths. If only, they could just… applaud

[steep holly]

not especially serious but:
Townsfolk
[You are dead]

[winged estuary]

Yeah that’s what inspired it lmao

[split crater]

Players can’t die if they are sober & healthy.

The classic Tinker upgrade:

Players might die & might live at any time.

[meager granite]

Oh I had the opposite of that lol

Only sober & healthy players can die

[split crater]

Players can’t die if they are drunk &/or poisoned.

Lmao

[meager granite]

I prefer my wording

[winged estuary]

“Drunk or poisoned players cannot die” is fewer words than both

[meager granite]

Fewer words is less important than fewer characters

[winged estuary]

Considering the prompt is about word count, I’d say words are more important in this case

[wintry vault]

ToS Survivor (Outsider) - You're evil whilst dead. The 1st time you'd die, don't.

i pledge my allegiance to survivor gaming...

[split crater]

*role Fool

[cyan summit]

Fool (Townsfolk) - Bad Moon Rising

The 1st time you die, you don't.

**Affects Setup: **False

[split crater]

“you”, not “you’d”, present tense.

[wintry vault]

no shot huh

i didnt realize

[ashen flax]

Mindbender (Minion)

Rules might be changed.

[wintry vault]

https://tenor.com/view/gravity-falls-bill-cipher-gif-5096832

Things change Stanford. Things... change.

[ashen flax]

Mindbender (Minion)

Some rules are changed.

[wooden socket]

You can no longer say what you want at any time 😈

[lofty meadow]

Mindtwister idk (demon)
Each night*, choose a letter, player's names starting with it die.

[split crater]

That’s 11

Also, it makes it sound like the names die instead of the player.

[winged estuary]

Skinkulus welcome back

[cerulean creek]

???(Minion)
You are the Storyteller too & may influence their decisions.

[void eagle]

Caretaker (Townsfolk)
One night, no Townsfolk can die.You start knowing which.

Comedian (Townsfolk)
Townsfolk who are funny can't die by execution.

also can anyone post prompts

[cerulean creek]

You start knowing the night which no Townsfolk can die.

[void eagle]

that's clearer but over 10 words

[cerulean creek]

there

[void eagle]

Prompt: A character which causes other players to learn something at night

[wintry vault]

Comedian (Townsfolk)
Townsfolk who are funny can't die by execution.

based....

[void eagle]

pacifist if it was good

[ashen flax]

Pacifist is good

[winged estuary]

Golgoose (Minion) - Each night, you may choose a player: They learn you & are “mad” you are good, or might all be executed (once).

[zinc aspen]

if you think pacifist is bad then you have a bad ST

if you are the ST, then you literally have the agency to make Pacifist good

[wintry vault]

i mean thats within an ST perspective, not a player one

if you only consider things from said perspective, then you're only acting as an agent of your own puzzle masquerading as someone trying to provide fun

in my opinion, pacifist is subpar, but in effectively any script containing it, its the weakest link amongst all TF

[quiet breach]

BMR is about considering things from other people’s perspective

“A demon would of won here, The ST would drunk this if I did this, etc“

Pacifist can cook on certain scripts

Like my script

[zinc aspen]

And the point is that you can push for anyone’s execution bc if they’re good then they’ll just live

[wintry vault]

thats a good point i didnt consider earlier, although i dont think a reckless playstyle from it is that indepth or interesting as other exe survival characters like tea lady, sailor, and even your mycologist

[void eagle]

i should clarify i don't think pacifist is like poorly designed or anything it's just not my favorite personally

[quiet breach]

You are still taking an incredible risk

I’ve made pacifist work on an SNV-like

[wintry vault]

so then... whats the point lol

[quiet breach]

A test to see if the pacifist is good/confirm them and you

[wintry vault]

but pacifist cant trigger their own ability

willingly

[quiet breach]

The ST should be competent enough to do that for you

[wintry vault]

nor is there any substancial condition they can reach to do so

[zinc aspen]

It’s still info tho and informs how the group should play, in the same way that Cannibal eases the minds of those who care about saving abilities

[quiet breach]

Pacifist’s “might” is a (don’t do this when it’s unhelpful) not “random”

Like Cerenovus

[zinc aspen]

I sometimes even play purposefully recklessly and try to execute high profile good players, the fuck is the ST going to do, not use my ability?

[wintry vault]

it could be that im not that good at pacifist saves and that is reflected on my group. generally i make the pacifist save once on the 1st TF or Outsider that shouldnt die, and then do it any more or less depending on if good or evil is heavily winning or losing

[quiet breach]

I mean

[wintry vault]

and also make paci always save if it prevents good loss

[quiet breach]

People really just aren’t reading into that?

Damn

(That’s the correct way, good just like… isn’t taking advantage of that)

[wintry vault]

i mean what am i going to tell them? read walls of text from the almanac in order to enjoy the game?

[quiet breach]

“I will save the first good player that should survive execution”

Is something I usually say when explaining Bmr

[wintry vault]

i collaberated with one of the players to make a bootleg rule for that and it was very much helpful actually

[quiet breach]

I mean it’s a trust thing right

[wintry vault]

the pacifist stated on their 1st day who they want the ST to protect

based off conditions set

[wintry vault]

wdym?

[quiet breach]

Players should be able to trust their ST to do the thing

If the bootlegger does that, by all means have it

(Anyway this is even more in-depth with sailor)

[wintry vault]

i mean i did try to explain that, plus for sailor, innkeeper, and gossip, but info like that feels like it added more overhead compelxity, and they werent able to track it as newer players

[quiet breach]

“Pacifist saves the first good player that is helpful to save”

[wintry vault]

this is a problem i see aswell with BOTC - great ideas, shit communication. it set self the 130 character limit for easy ability towards understanding characters but then goes against it at times when those 130 characters should be understood on their own

[quiet breach]

“Sailor drunks the other player if it is downside for “you can’t die”, otherwise they are drunk.”

[quiet breach]

sailor is “read between the lines” the Townsfolk

[wintry vault]

i also had to effectively reword sailor in our games to make it digestable in the first place

[quiet breach]

I haven’t been running Bmr for newer players

mostly people who haven’t played BMR

[wintry vault]

it was along the lines of You can't die. Each night*, choose a player: if they're helping your team (this might change), they are drunk, otherwise you are.

[quiet breach]

(app)

[void eagle]

i think there's an implicit expectation to read the almanac most of the time but like idk how to get people to do it

[quiet breach]

Pretty much yea

[quiet breach]

Not for the players

[wintry vault]

imma be real - i got my group onto BOTC with the explicit notice that there isnt giant walls of text you need to read up upon to enjoy the game, and im not throwing the fucking book at them

[void eagle]

but also yeah for people coming from like a mafia background with way less roles to think about even just the script itself is already a daunting task to read

[quiet breach]

Players Just need to know the in between lines

Innkeeper is “The player that is the most helpful to your team is the drunk one.”

[void eagle]

in between the lines isn't the most intuitive though which also makes it hard

[quiet breach]

You have to just explain the lines

[wintry vault]

ok you say that but also oddly was too overwhelming for my group (keep in mind, all of them are college students who are veteran mainstream gamers)

not saying its a bad example, but i did this and it didnt work lol

[quiet breach]

Actually

Hmmm

[wintry vault]

i had to make an explicit innkeeper priority: Townsfolk > Outsiders > Minions > Demon

[quiet breach]

How do you explain “this is a meta-able downside”

[wintry vault]

pretty much the same thing

[quiet breach]

Because that covers

[wintry vault]

but this one somehow was more digestable and understandable

keep in mind, BMR came after SNV and TB for my group

[quiet breach]

Something tells me they like SNV

Oh

Yea

[wintry vault]

SNV triumphs TB in terms of most fun to play, yeah

mainly cause:

1. no grim-seer
2. chaotic shit with pit-hag, snake charmer, evil twin, barber
3. alignment changes

shouldve just said fang gu but w/e

also small sidenote, but fang gu was pretty much the biggest hook for my group and would be considered perfect if pit-hag couldnt make outsiders

but i just bootlegged fang gu a bit and it made everyone happy

and thats the true powa of frenship

also holy offtopic yap by myself

speaking of my group

Prompt: Make a 'Selfish' character. That's the entire prompt, interpret it as you will.

[quiet breach]

nooo no outsider fang gu jump

[wintry vault]

wuh

[quiet breach]

lol

[void eagle]

Fishmarketer (Townsfolk)
Each day, you may visit the Storyteller to learn one piece of advice someone on your team should hear.

[void eagle]

This one sounds really toxic to play as but
The Absorbent (Demon)
Each night*, choose a player; they die. When you nominate and execute a minion, you gain their ability and are safe from execution tomorrow.

[brittle stone]

Lifedrinker (Townsfolk) - The first time you would die at night, you are woken to choose a player: if good, they die but you live.

[normal pike]

A

[quiet breach]

Your Townsfolk neighbors are drunk, but you gain their abilities. Once per game, you are drunk instead.

[leaden heath]

That's getting way more information than you realize. Knowing who your Townsfolk neighbors are at all as a good player is very valuable info, but then you have their abilities and cause a mechanical effect that can be used to confirm yourself and you've got a recipe for a busted character. You can't really rebuild this while sticking to the prompt and keeping it distinct from Philosopher.

[winged estuary]

“You have the abilities of your neighbors. If they are a Townsfolk they are drunk, else your ability from them is drunk. Once, you are drunk.”

So if you neighbor say the Demon, you’d “gain” an arbitrary Townsfolk ability that malfunctions

[quiet breach]

I didn't actually think about this one I just said "fuck it"

[void eagle]

You have your neighbors’ abilities. If good, they are drunk. If evil, you are poisoned.

[winged estuary]

Poisoning both of your abilities if even one neighbor is evil feels harsh, that's why I just drunk'd the ability they would've gained

[void eagle]

The other thing is like if you don’t know exactly what they’re going to bluff on n1 which you can’t know without explicitly asking then it’s kinda hard if they don’t get woken up for that

And also if you figure out you’re poisoned that’s valuable info

It’s like no Dashii indicator but as a townsfolk ability

[quiet breach]

in actual abilities

Minion: If no outsiders live, gain a demon ability. [+1 or +2 Outsiders]

[void eagle]

Eeping Godfather

[quiet breach]

(it's actually godfather but fun)

I would probably tell you godfather is one of the weakest minions in clocktower

[quiet breach]

Prompt: A character with "When no (Insert something here) live, X"

[winged estuary]

Crucifier (Townsfolk) - When no Minions live, the Demon dies if they kill a living player

Might've actually cooked tbh

[ashen flax]

It's a very "win harder" townsfolk

[cerulean creek]

^

also just softlocks in 1 minion

[void eagle]

Tormentor (Demon) - Each night*, choose a player; they die. When no Outsiders live, if no executions occur or a good player is executed, evil wins. [+1 to +2 Outsiders]

[winged estuary]

I think this would make sense to be in a BMR-esque script, so other kills would probably happen even without the Demon. It’s basically a perma-Exorcist if the evil team lets the Minion(s) die, and encourages good to bluff it to trick the Demon into sinking when they don’t need to

[cerulean creek]

ok but most non demon killers are sparse and inconsistent/hard to proc

a large amount of evils control is just gone

not to mention exor is already strong with all its limitations

[hot bane]

dont remember if i saw a fabled in passing with roughly the same idea but

failsafe (TF): When no good players live, after a 10 to 1 countdown, the player with the most players pointing at them dies, even if dead.

[quiet breach]

Mortician(Minion):If no Outsiders live*, Gain all outsider abilities on script, then choose a player. They die.

(So you know how most outsiders are on death)

[wintry vault]

wha

what purpose does this serbe...

[quiet breach]

so imagine the scenario where there's a hermit, puzzlemaster, plague doctor, and golem on script.

when all outsiders are dead:

2 puzzlemasters 2 plague doctors and a golem

[wintry vault]

feels a bit too specific

[quiet breach]

this is when I realized this was busted and gave a different effect

[wintry vault]

having the ability action disconnected from its trigger

unless u have a theme in mind

[winged estuary]

Should just be +1 tbh, having +2 as an option makes it a stronger Baron

[quiet breach]

Xaan

[zealous valve]

Prompt: A character with the clause "might learn" or a variation thereof

[void eagle]

Medium (Townsfolk): Each night*, you might learn something a dead player was going to learn tonight if they were alive.

i see this as a sidegrade to cannibal (and maybe oracle?) where it can hard confirm certain dead players but also can't use any abilities

[winged estuary]

Exenox (Minion) - You start knowing an opposing player. If they are executed, all evil players may choose a non-Demon ability to gain. If you die first, your team loses.

[desert tundra]

??? (Townsfolk): You start knowing 2 in-play characters (not yourself). If they are your living neighbors, your team wins, even if dead.

[cerulean creek]

broken

not only cant you remove its ability, it learns double pix info with no downside

[winged estuary]

You can remove its ability by killing one of the targets, but yeah this is just strong info and a random “even if dead” clause when it doesn’t need one

[sick breach]

??? (Townsfolk): you start knowing how many townsfolk are neighbors. When executed, the second player without a living neighbor of their type loses.

[split crater]

Prompt: “When you learn that you died” characters with setup modifiers.

[winged estuary]

Very specific lol

Paparazzi (Townsfolk) - When you learn that you died, publicly choose a player. If the player you choose isn’t a Townsfolk, they become another character tonight [+1 Outsider]

[normal pike]

Hold on imma find it in my Bloodstar Clocktica..

[leaden heath]

Ooooo, breaking out an existing character! That's technically against the rules and no one cares or has any way to find out if you've never posted it before! You're in big trouble! /s

[normal pike]

Nvm.

I did not find it

[zinc aspen]

I mean I personally do care bc while you can absolutely show off your own pre-made characters, this is for making new things

[ocean hinge]

Dead Guy (Outsider) - When you learn that you died, close your eyes from now on. [+The Wraith]

10/10 character

[split crater]

Fits the prompt

10/10

[split crater]

Prompt: Abilities that start with “All players” & contains the word “both”.

[split crater]

Dead inside

[winged estuary]

Dual Soul (Fabled) - All players know two players who are aligned & register together. If one dies, both do.

“Register together” means that they both register as both characters simultaneously. So if an Undertaker checked one, they could learn either character. Or a Flowergirl would get a yes if either voted regardless which is the Demon. Etc.

Maybe they should additionally register as one other character/alignment to make it harder to solve, idk

[zealous valve]

Minister (Minion): All players know that the evil Townsfolk is 1 of 3 players. On your 1st night, you may choose that both you & they are in this information [1 evil Townsfolk]

”Obey”

The Minister’s decrees are known and followed

This was the best I could come up with

[winged estuary]

Why would you want yourself to be in the info?

[zealous valve]

To make it easier to find the evil TF

also I couldn’t figure out how to use the both

[winged estuary]

What about instead “Both other players learned might register falsely”

Or might register as a specific thing, idk

[zealous valve]

I did consider it. I just wasn’t sure if it’d be too much on top of an extra evil player

Tho that being said, the extra evil is mitigated by the loudness and ease to build it

So maybe I do give them some relatively minor misreg

Maybe even

All players know that the evil Townsfolk is 1 of 3 players. Both other players might register as evil [1 evil Townsfolk]

[zealous valve]

I’ll consider the original more at a later time

[normal pike]

Roulette(Demon): Each night* choose 2 players, they both must silently choose whick of them must die. If both choose each other, both might die.All players knows you are in-play

I know it's ass but hey Im tryna fit the prompt ;-;

[winged estuary]

That doesn’t start with “All players” tho

[split crater]

It can be reshuffled to achieve that.

All players know you are in-play. Each night*, choose 2 players: each secretly chooses which 1 dies. If both chose each other, both might die.

[ocean hinge]

Ugly Barnacle (Townsfolk): All players die, you are both sad and ugly

[split crater]

Prompt: A character without the following traditional startings:

[ocean hinge]

Conspiracy Theorist (Townsfolk): False info might become true, you learn when this happens.

[ember gull]

Hey, I'm a role in Clocktower now! 😃

[ocean hinge]

-# ... Jesus Christ?

||at least I assume jc stands for that||

[wintry vault]

you know what, i dont see enough of these

Prompt:

> A [-1 Outsider] character with a good reasonable need to possibly take that Outsider bluff. Basically, do better than Vigormortis.

[split crater]

*role Vigormortis

[cyan summit]

Vigormortis (Demon) - Sects & Violets

Each night*, choose a player: they die. Minions you kill keep their ability & poison 1 Townsfolk neighbor. [−1 Outsider]

**Affects Setup: **True

[split crater]

@wintry vault bye

[wintry vault]

vigor enjoyer spotted...

sorry we shouldnt be seen together...

i think we should see other storytellers from now on...

[ember gull]

Oh, wow. How original. Literally zero other sentient creatures have made the exact same comment about my chosen name. It makes me so glad every time it is said to me. /HeavySarcasm

[split crater]

Fine

Evil players start knowing in-play Outsiders. Good wins if & only if no Townsfolk live. [-1 Outsider, +1 Minion, No Demons]

Bad idea

But have no better ones as of current

[winged estuary]

Well the proper BotC wording of that would be “Evil players” which breaks the prompt

Oh wait I read the wrong prompt

[split crater]

Sob

[winged estuary]

Actively weeping

Tho the wording should still be updated

I assume this is supposed to be a Minion btw? If so then this is just a Demon that can’t kill and gives good a bonus wincon

[split crater]

It’s supposed to be evil yeah

I don’t like it much as a concept though

Snarking Legi was more fun

[winged estuary]

Apple of Sin (Minion) - Townsfolk mad as Outsiders might become evil (once) & you learn them.

[cerulean creek]

vigor is absolutely justified and goated you wet wipe

[winged estuary]

Yeah Vigor is the “You should bluff as an Outsider” character, even more so than Godfather tbh

[ashen flax]

This doesn't want to bluff outsider

It wants to bluff Tf to die?

Well

The wincon isn't even if dead

[winged estuary]

It’s basically a Demon that can’t kill, so it wants to bluff Outsider so that town doesn’t kill them. Evil’s only wincon is bringing this and one Townsfolk to the end

[cerulean creek]

ok but how are people going to die

what is stopping good from just not executing and stalling until they hardsolve

[winged estuary]

Nothing

[cerulean creek]

so it sucks

[winged estuary]

Prompt: A character themed around Egyptian mythology/history

[wintry vault]

this is a toughie, give me a mo to try this out

havent seen a want for egyptian/west-asian centralized or inspired characters outside of my group

[wintry vault]

Khnum (Townsfolk): A Townsfolk who used their vote token might be resurrected at night (once).

Khnum brings life, in accordance with abundance & tribute.

[quiet breach]

BALANCED !!!!!

[cerulean creek]

Once per game, a Townsfolk who used their vote token is ressurected at night.

rip prompt

wait this is a different one

[split crater]

Prompt: Characters whose abilities begin and end with the same word.

[quiet breach]

Does setup text count

[split crater]

Yes

[queen perch]

Townsfolk: Townsfolk cannot die by execution if nominated by another Townsfolk.
probably terrible 🧍

[split crater]

Luis? Looks like someone was leeching off the scraps—

Well it’s very strong

[wintry vault]

Vulture (Minion): During the day, even if dead, you may eat player's vote tokens to remove them.

The Vulture tests the limits of players' patience and the inner lining of their stomach.

sometimes, my genius scares even myself...

[split crater]

What the respectful tarnation

[quiet breach]

Tips and Tricks:

[wintry vault]

VORE!!!

[quiet breach]

Hide a small compartment in your cheek to store as many dead tokens as you can!

[wintry vault]

you're not even going to dignify the mention of vore? fake BoTC player smh....

[split crater]

You may force players to regurgitate vote tokens they possess (players executed with vote tokens used count as possessing them) for yourself to hoard at any time.

[quiet breach]

(Easily done with a piece of cardboard one index finger long and half an index finger wide, then fold lengthwise, put the tokens on the side you will insert the vote tokens, then slide in the cardboard accordingly.)

This stores the maximum number of vote tokens without risk of swallowing.

Oh yea and it’s cheap

[ocean hinge]

Prompt: A character that uses the word "sane"

[cerulean creek]

not how the game works

youre always mad about something

[quiet breach]

"Fabled:Players that are sane may leave the game"

that's like

the only possible design space

actually

fuck it

"If no-one is sane today, good loses. Evil wins after day 4."

This is very fun to play against.

[quiet breach]

I mean

sane=shutting up

completely

[cerulean creek]

being mad you cant talk

or theres nothing to talk about

[quiet breach]

you could talk

[quiet breach]

hey there's something to talk about

I'm just not

just not talkin rn

[cerulean creek]

well thats also not healthy

seeing as how you should be talking

refusing to contribute isnt fun

[quiet breach]

yeah it's an ass design space

[vapid pebble]

Well hold on

A player is either "mad" or "sane"

But a player is always mad about something

So we can also say they are "sane" about other things

This does make any practical use of "sane" very counter-intuitive, but we can use it to mean "not mad"

Explorer (Townsfolk) - If the Demon is "sane" that you are good, they might be drunk until dusk.

[ocean hinge]

it's on the official wiki so only response I can give is no

[cerulean creek]

read medways madness thing

[winged estuary]

I agree with this interpretation. There is no “mad” state, only “mad about X” state. Same would go for sane

[ember gull]

??? (Townsfolk): Each night*, choose a living player; if they were sane about their character yesterday, you learn their character.

You could remove "living" and/or change "you learn their character" to a simple "learn if they were sane" as a madness checker?

[winged estuary]

So if you choose any evil player you learn their character…? Barring like Psycho, Goblin, and other outed evils

[ember gull]

Presumably, they would be "mad" (even if unafflicted by actual Madness) about being a good character, so... no?

I'll be honest, this had all of a few seconds of thought.

[winged estuary]

Well everyone is “mad” about something. Are you intending that you only learn info if that player never claimed anything? I assumed it was for players who were claiming the wrong role, like an Empath claiming Soldier for example

[ember gull]

I guess, in my head, "sane" can mean '"Mad" about something that is true and that wasn't affected by abilities"?
(It makes sense in my head, I promise.)

Alternative character idea, suggested by a work colleague:
Sane (Townsfolk): You cannot be made "mad" as a result of another player's ability.
(I know the prompt implies the word should be in the ability, but it doesn't explicitly say that)

[winged estuary]

Shouldn’t “sane” be the opposite of madness, not just a specific type of madness? To me it means “Not being mad about something”
So if I’m sane about being the Empath, it means I’m not being mad that I’m the Empath

[ember gull]

I... guess? (Like I said, I put seconds of thought into this, I'm prone to forgetting that Madness as a mechanic exists, let alone thinking of the reverse!)

[zinc aspen]

I mean it’d say that sanity in this context is a direct effect, i.e. if you are being compelled to be mad, you are not/immune

[ocean hinge]

if we take it that mad is about things you don't know while sane is about things you do

or I guess roughly anyway

harpy can make someone mad someone else is evil

thought mutant is punished for being mad about the truth

so in a sense mutant is punished for being sane

*role mutant

[cyan summit]

Mutant (Outsider) - Sects & Violets

If you are "mad" about being an Outsider, you might be executed.

**Affects Setup: **False

[ocean hinge]

Mad: A player who is "mad" about something is trying to convince the group that something is true. Some players are instructed to be mad about something - if the Storyteller thinks that a player has not put effort to convince the group of the thing they are mad about, then a penalty may apply. Some players are instructed to not be mad about something - if the Storyteller thinks that a player has tried to convince the group of that thing, then a penalty may apply.

I guess by this, being sane means you aren't trying to convince the group of anything

unless not mad = sane

[winged estuary]

I’d argue it means you aren’t trying to convince the group of a specific thing. There is no “mad” state, only “mad about X”. Same for sane. So you could be “Sane about X” meaning you aren’t trying to convince town of X

Everyone is mad about something at all times, but they’re also not mad about other things

[sick gazelle]

??? (Traveller):
Once per game, you may allow all players to switch their seats. You choose last, & then 1 or both of your neighbors might die.

This is funny

Doesn't start with all players

But it contains it 💔

[spark veldt]

a.

[normal pike]

#1030804651085402142 :3

[zinc aspen]

Again, not the point of workshops, and also

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1234165079646408714/1383951260474151044/IRember.gif

[normal pike]

I Rember

Hmm it's kinda hard to find a Egypt thing without mentioning FoR 😭

[zinc aspen]

Alex

The point is that you make it

[wintry vault]

one upping cursed relic's prompt:

Prompt: A character themed around anything Pirates

[quiet breach]

Swashchucker(Minion) If you nominate and execute a Townsfolk, they and neighbors if they are Townsfolk,lose their dead votes when they die.[-1 Outsider]

“I’ll cut off your head and throw it at Fred!”

[ashen flax]

??? (Townsfolk)

If you were mad that egyptian themed things are better than pirate themed things, you learn a player of your alignment who was mad about the opposite.

[wintry vault]

https://tenor.com/view/bunda-feia-cute-cuzaop-macacko-macaco-gif-24529902

[winged estuary]

…Rome isn’t in Egypt…?

[zinc aspen]

(Cleopatra)

[winged estuary]

He mentioned the whole script like it was all based on Egyptian stuff, it’s just one Demon. Egypt was part of the Roman Empire but just a small part, and Rome itself is not

[zinc aspen]

Oh yeah I fully get you bc that’s what I was thinking too

But I think that’s what he was getting at

[normal pike]

[09/06/25] Create a hb character, Traveller or Fabled that you think would fit Trouble Brewing/Bad Moon Rising or Sects and Violets.

Edit: Added more vestality by adding in Travellers & Fableds

[winged estuary]

Travellers and Fabled are characters

[spark veldt]

Artisan (Traveller)

Wine! Chocolate! You sir, do you want some? Only of the finest quality from the mountainside... you'll feel rich and strengthened from a single, decadent taste!
You start knowing an ally's character. If sober and healthy, they cannot die.

Crocheter (Traveller)

Sorry, I'm busy. I have buttons to stitch, knickknacks to buy, as well as the finishing touches on young Aurelia's new body to complete. She is mostly comprised of cotton and yarn at the moment, but her soul has recuperated and is yearning for revenge. Spite is a powerful thing.
Once per game, at night*, choose a dead player: they are alive, sober, and healthy for a day and a night.

Archivist (Traveller)

Here's the late Clayton's personal letters. Don't question where I got them from.
When you nominate and successfully execute a dead player, learn their role tonight.

Marauder (Traveller)

All is fair in love and war. Mostly war. And the word "fair" meant "pretty" at the time that Billy Shakes wrote it, so, yeah, war is just that pretty.
Executed players die in the night instead of in the day. If you are good, they learn how many evil players voted on their nomination, else this information is arbitrary.

Flautist (Traveller)

It's just scales. It's just scales. Just continue. It's just scales.
Deaths of drunk or poisoned players are arbitrary.

here's all my BMR traveller ideas

because the BMR travellers are hella weird and not at all bmr-related

[ashen flax]

Artisan seems fine? Runs into the issue of the optimal meta being for them to claim the character to all players but the one they know then having the rest of town tell that character, if they are the same, let them live. If they differ: kill the traveller.

What does crocheter do better than bone collector. (Except allowing professor to be bluffed. Scripts should not be balanced around specific travellers being in-play)

Archivist seems okay, it's a very high cost for info which doesn't mean much in the hands of a traveller

Is marauder intended allow the players to be protected by for example an innkeeper? Either way it's a traveller which almost always is just strictly helpful for good since the info doesn't help evil and it can just be used to tell when the traveller is evil.

Fautist seems fine, but is in my opinion a character which does not fit on bmr since it messes with the death count very arbitrarily, I would way rather prefer it on a script with a few different droison sources were deaths aren't a main focus.

[winged estuary]

Prompt: A character that alters the abilities of other players/characters (but not just by making them a different on-script character)

[brave hemlock]

Bartender (Outsider): "Each night, choose a new player: chosen Townsfolk are drunk. When you die, a Minion's ability becomes this."

[ashen flax]

I feel like that just works better by actually changing the minions character

[brave hemlock]

true

[main drum]

Hello all, I'm new here. I've recently made 40 homebrew characters, and would like advice on narrowing them down into a viable script, alterations to them, etc. Would this be the correct channel for this?

[ashen flax]

https://discord.com/channels/569683781800296501/720010349587202200 this is the channel you're looking for

Homebrew Brewery is a place for creating new characters

[main drum]

So... no? Where should I go then?

[winged estuary]

This thread is for creating characters on the fly based on prompts. As said, #homebrew-discussion is good for your purpose

[main drum]

Sorry, thank you.

[zinc aspen]

Alternatively you can make a forum for your characters so you can keep the feedback and discussion all in one place

[main drum]

How do I do that?

[rigid juniper]

make your own post in #1029520601645318206

[main drum]

Thanks.

[steep holly]

Aten (Minion)
If another player would die during the day, they instead learn that you are 1 of 2 players tonight.

Aten protects all during the day.

[quiet breach]

Hmm.

Interesting

[steep holly]

kinda flips execution in that you want to exe trusted people to learn who aten is, and evil may want to exe evils so they can lie about who it is and waste more exes

[ashen flax]

It feels like a minion which only really work on scripts were minions goals is just to waste time and abilities

[winged estuary]

Prompt: A character that could work as at least two different character types without changing a word

[split crater]

For each executed player, information is reversed.

[merry brook]

Executed good players might not die.

[zealous valve]

[spark veldt]

hi

[green shell]

sounds minion-ish or outsider-ish 😄

[green shell]

question
is 'All players registered as evil to each other' a fun/good effect? or at least a nerfed version of it? (maybe only some instead of all) or maybe something with similar effect?
asking this so i can consider if i should make this into a prompt or not

[spark veldt]

Faux Paw is already really funky

[ashen flax]

In general having "all townsfolk are poisoned" or something similar does the job but better

Having players misregister is very inconsistent as it can create a bunch of misinfo or little to none

It can work tho

[green shell]

true
though the difference is 'all towns poisoned' is just affecting info
'all players register as evil' is basically in the same way like recluse
you are basically treated like evil even if good
though ig the only effect of that is slayer can kill anyone basically 💀💀

welcome to recluse hell

[steep holly]

it cant though, slayer kills demons, not evils

[wintry vault]

slayer 2:

[wintry vault]

Prompt: Character that causes a static number of Outsider(s).

[zealous valve]

**Scalemaker (Townsfolk):**You think you are another Townsfolk until you die. [The base number of Outsiders are in-play.]

Never weighed beneath burdens. Never floating in the clouds. Never anything more or less than what should be

The Scalemaker ensures balance without knowing it.

[green shell]

Prompt: Demon that has a similar vibe to this one, like how the demons from the official script have sort of similar vibes (IE: Vortox, Fang gu, No dashii and Vigor all have similar vibes which is about misinfo).

i wanna make a script that is sort of feels close enough to an official script ig (roles having home scripts, based around a sort of gameplay theme/vibe, and all the other stuff)
idk if this works

[pliant plover]

What part of the vibe do you want? The loss/wincon, the ping, or the multi deaths?

[green shell]

well if it helps
theme of the script would prob about evil needing to be savvy
CDG needs to find out who is their 'target' and kill them to win
kinda like death note, which is the main inspiration of the role

ig that would mean win/loss con

[pliant plover]

???(Demon)

Each night*, choose 1 or 2 players: they die. If 2, all players may choose a minion: if living, they die, if not a good player dies.

Doesn't have losscon, but is loud and has multiple kills.

How well it fits on your script depends on how loud your minions are

[ashen flax]

I feel like it's just 2 kpn with no downside

Because a minion dying is just speeding up the game more and is definetly not worth the risk of an extra death

[ashen flax]

Or I guess the downside is that it's loud