I placed, 1st, 2nd, 1st, 2nd last 4 events lol
#suggestions
wanton tusk
Yep, that's exactly what we were going for @coarse grove , glad to see that this decision was a good one π
zenith burrow
@stiff gull what do you spend your gem on?
coarse grove
Buying chips for wheel ;)
patent turtle
I'm new to the game
Any suggestion that in needed to give me before i get even further?
Does 1K for 10 chest worth to get?
iron portal
Tiny suggestion. Put a notification blip on the bounty list @ reset time, because i always seem to forget about it
wanton tusk
Oh that's a good suggestion, will look into this. Thank you @iron portal !
coarse grove
@patent turtle maybe Γ bit at first, but after save your gems for event
green berry
Strange, cannot find idle mafia any more today in google store, would this be a concern?
stiff gull
Can you add a button to 10x/max upgrade a cappo so i dont have to click the upgrade button 150 times a cappo
Hit a point where i have a surplus of cigars so im just uograding everyone
wanton tusk
Oh, that's a good suggestion, will forward it to the team. Thanks @stiff gull ! π
wanton tusk
Hi @green berry , I'm so sorry, it seems like I've missed your message yesterday. Could you please send me your gmail in a DM (the one you use in your Google Play Store)? I can add you to our internal testers group, so that you can continue to play our game.
green berry
Thabks. Sent. Really good game so far. Had some bugs noted (away bar did not show correctly, away value was not always correct when switching to Vegas) but these seemed to be fixed with last update last week. Will keep on chasing pesky bugs:)
wanton tusk
Hi @green berry , thanks for the compliment! And glad to hear the bugs you found were already fixed. If you find any issues in the newest version, please do feel free to let us know!
grim sphinx
is the store not letting anybodi else buy any thing
patent turtle
What store? Play store?
grim sphinx
the shop in idle mafia i cant buy a damn thing outta it
and its not my card i cant even get that far into buying anything i click on sumthing n it says error
patent turtle
Maybe this has to do with the beta version though
Because this game wasn't fully release yet
wanton tusk
Hi @grim sphinx , Freaky Hopeless is right, it's because our game is currently only listed in the Canadian and UK Google Play Store. And I assume you're playing from a different country.
However, I can help to add you to our Internal Testers Group and this should solve the issues for you. Could you please DM me your gmail (that is also your Google Play Store account)? Then I will add you to our testers group.
Sorry for this inconvenience.
patent turtle
@wanton tusk I feel like the duration of event was too short, the first one I had was only 12 hours, didn't have sufficient time to accomplish much and as much reward.
But the game was so good. Definitely love those graphics you have in the game.
wanton tusk
Hi @patent turtle , every event starts Friday at 17:00 (UTC+0) and ends every Monday at 17:00 (UTC+0). Is it possible that you maybe only started on Sunday or Monday, when the event was almost going to finish? Because normally the event lasts for 3 full days π
And thanks for the compliment! The art team will definitely be happy to see this comment, haha! π
patent turtle
Also, hopefully, there will be events that could boost up the higher rates in chest for certain character.
wanton tusk
Oh, that's an interesting suggestion, will look into this. Thanks @patent turtle !
limpid garden
I would like to see a battery friendly version. Maybe a non animated option when you need to save some batterypower like at work or during travel.
lone fractal
There any way to find out what multipliers are coming up for each building
I.e. level 600 x2 level 650x100 level 700x2 etc
Can help with choosing what building to invest in
Especially if you know a x1k is coming up after a x2
spiral flare
Wish u could get more cigars for cigar fights
limpid garden
another idea. i would like to see a notification when you are able to get the free spins/vault.
obtuse pelican
Really need more cigars from the cigar fights, the amount should go up more as you do more of the fights seeing as now to upgrade my guys to be able to do a fight its take over 1k cigars, yet I'm winning as little as 300 in a fight which I was getting in the first levels of the cigar fights. Getting really difficult to upgrade which means difficult to play, especially now for my guys to automate they need to be ridiculously high levels, which costs way too much to get them to
celest sluice
Lol 1k cigara πππ
smoky rapids
Yea the automate level is way too high
wanton tusk
Hi @limpid garden , I have forwarded both your suggestions to the team. And yes, I personally also agree with you for the notification for the free spins. I keep forgetting those myself as well, haha.
Hi @lone fractal , I will look into these numbers and see if we can share them. The thing that I am currently not fully sure of, is whether each building always works the same in every street. For example, if these multipliers are different per street (or per city), it's probably going to take a bit more time. But I will look into it!
@spiral flare, @obtuse pelican and @smoky rapids , we actually already started looking into these Cigar numbers since a few weeks back. That's also one of the reasons why we have recently change the Idle Cigar Fight button, so now it also lets you automatically fight the next 10 battles. We have seen that a lot of players could actually make a lot of progress in the Cigar Fights, so they could have had much more Cigars. But we will keep an eye on these numbers and see how they change with this small adjustment π
limpid garden
@wanton tusk awesome tnx! Good to hear im not the only one forgetting stuff π
smoky rapids
@wanton tusk the cigar is not the problem for me , but the automate level , ex: I manage to get 3 4 star (red one), but I can automate just the first business(second take lv269.
Maybe i ahould have more 5 stars , i dibt know haha
wanton tusk
Oh I see, sorry I misread your message @smoky rapids . I'm guessing you are at one of the higher levels already, is that right? We are currently looking at the progress speed again for all the levels. We're currently not satisfied, as some levels are fairly easy to finish, while others take too much time. We will make some tweaks to some levels and hopefully that will create a better progress flow through the game. Could you maybe check again after next update and see if the progress is better? π
smoky rapids
Yep no problem!
smoky rapids
Any chance you use the combat option of Mama Mafia with idle mafia? To be honest the two game combine in one can be awesome and favorise a more growing player base instead of fraction it
I may be wrong, but i think the two game comllete each other
plush canopy
Hi, yes, actually we split to see if players like the combat way in mamamafia, if it works well, we may bring it back to idle mafia.
smoky rapids
OMG serioulsy, i think this will be awesome
coarse grove
Γ notification 1h or 30mn or 10mn before the event end πππ would be cool
soft axle
π rip
bronze sparrow
The event was fun however i personally found the upgrade costs to the buildings after a certain point became pretty much unachievable even when lucking out for chips on the roulette
lone fractal
I also found that some buildings on the 2nd lap around didnt offer increased earnings. So was actually in a deficit once that was unlocked. I believe it was fight on the streets
celest sluice
rich solar
congrats @celest sluice . I barely made top-50 this time :(. I suspect they made something harder or we're competing against more players π
versed edge
I made 27 first outing was fun!
rich solar
good job, @versed edge ! I really is great how the event doesn't really favor experienced players (other than that they have some diamonds saved or understand the strategy).
versed edge
Have a better system for next time, wasn't expecting it to wrap around to starting businesses..
obtuse pelican
Levels definitely start getting slower to complete and tasks to hard, taking a lot of time. The levels needed to automate make this even slower and it's starting to make the game boring for me. The cigar battles make no sense either. Every 3 levels there is a boss which is considerably harder than the normal levels so I can be stuck for a while because I cant pass to get cigars to upgrade to defeat the boss lol. I have to come back to the game hours later once I have accumulated some cigars to then upgrade. I also have every blue and purple character and although I still need these cards to star up, the legendary cards are extremely difficult to get, even in the mystery chest. I only have 3 so far. Please look into cigar numbers, boss frequency or difficulty, automation levels and difficulty of tasks to complete streets. Your numbers dont work out in order to make the game fun to play
smoky rapids
I agree on the automate part, since an idle game have to be a little bit...idle... but the fight is ok, its normal to struggle to upgrade all, although the battle system is a little boring, should bring the one from mama mafia. And if ypu wait yo open at 10 key, one orange is garanted!
obtuse pelican
Il try saving up the keys lol, easier said than done though, especially if I happen to have an open 5 safes task and struggling on the other tasks lol
smoky rapids
I buy the 10 key from the prison shop, and i keep this in this case
obtuse pelican
Plus theres idle then theres play for 5 mins, wait hours, play 5 mins, wait hours lol. No one gets a game to just not play. If it's too idle it gets boring. Can only do the prison shop every 24 hours though by which point I need to buy other things from there like cigars π€£
wanton tusk
Hi @obtuse pelican , thanks a lot for your feedback. And I agree with what you said. We also think that the numbers need to be tweaked in order to have a better progress flow in the game. We also think that some players might have progressed "too fast", as in jumped to the next street as soon as it's available instead of collecting all the rewards in the street first. In the beginning this is a nice feeling because you make progress fairly quickly, but in the later parts of the game this might put some players in a bad position (because they've missed out on several rewards earlier on in the game). We are actually currently looking into adding some features that will make the jump to the next street a more comfortable increase in difficulty (or in other words, stop players from moving on to the next street if they are far from ready for it).
Also, regarding the point that there's nothing to do if you can't progress anymore, we also agree on this part. We're currently working hard on adding new features that will give everyone something else to do if they get stuck in one part of the game. Jailbreak was the first implementation of a feature besides the "main game", so to speak. But we still have many more ideas for other features. We are definitely not done yet and there's many ideas that we are playing around with, to see which one is most needed to add right now and which ideas (no matter how awesome they are) can be added later when the game is more 'complete'. So don't worry, more features are coming up ;)
As of now, the game is still in beta, so we're definitely not saying that this is a complete product and I'm pretty sure we will have some small hiccups along the way. But we're trying our best to listen to all the feedback you guys give us and make the changes that are necessary. Please give us some time to fix the imperfections in the game and push out new features along the way π
obtuse pelican
I look forward to the next update, its nice to have developers actually listen to their audience for once
smoky rapids
True, i was actually worried this weekend but i speak with @wanton tusk in DM and I'm not worried anymore! And @plush canopy gave me hopes too!
With the combat system!
smoky rapids
Some equipement can be cool too, some set can help im combat and other in the idle part
ebon owl
Hi guys. I just started to play and I think that this game needs more social options, like alliances, ranking, maybe war etc. Its always more motivating.
smoky rapids
I agree
celest sluice
I agree too but still on beta :)
smoky rapids
@celest sluice yep exactly, but this is the suggestion channel ahah
celest sluice
Ohh mybad thought was still in general haha but yeah alliance and war can be cool :p
smoky rapids
Im pretty sure they already think about that tho haha
celest sluice
I hope so xd
smoky rapids
Some lifetime achievment/daily mission can be nice too( like you did in Mama Mafia)
And a VIP system maybe? Sorry I suggest a lot ^^
pallid sparrow
@smoky rapids There is a VIP system for 6 somthing a month 50 diamonds per day for 30 days and you can skip all adds
pallid sparrow
Yeah it's pretty nice
smoky rapids
Yep i know, but im talking about a point system we collect on a long period (and give bonuses)
But yea the thing ypu talked about is pretty nice
I already have it
pallid sparrow
Yeah that would be nice to have
coarse grove
I prΓ©fΓ¨re Γ monthly deal than Γ vip system. Vip system are always π€’
celest sluice
Its worth man
pallid sparrow
I think there should be different events and not always the same one.. Should have like 5 in rotation
wanton tusk
First of all, thank you all for sharing all those suggestions! It's really helpful, so we know what features everyone is most looking forward to have in the game. So, please keep them coming!
Second, as with every feature, there's going to be people who will like it and people who will dislike it. As is seen in the example regarding the VIP system, haha. But that's okay, we are all different and have different opinions and tastes π We will try our best to add something for everyone, and it's okay if not 100% of the whole playerbase likes a specific feature. Hopefully they can enjoy other features in the game π
@smoky rapids adding equipment to the game is definitely something we are looking into. We already have put some ideas on paper, but believe that it's more important now to add some more features to the game first, that allows everyone to have something more to do in the game. But yes, equipment is definitely something we would like to add in the game later.
And yes, we are also thinking about the VIP system, but are not quite sure yet how this system should look like and what exactly the added value of this VIP system should have on the game. We only want to implement it if we can come up with a system that makes sense, so it can be an added value to the content in the game. So we're still thinking about it π
@ebon owl I agree with you, we want to add more social options in the game. And all the options you've mentioned (alliances, ranking system, guild wars, etc.) are all features we would like to add to the game, hehe. As for the ranking system, a few weeks back we have added the leaderboard feature in the Las Vegas event. That was our first test of how such a ranking system would work in the game. But yes, all the social options you've mentioned are definitely on our list!
@pallid sparrow I have good news for you, we are currently working on a new event which we hope to release with the next update. And yes, our plan is to have a few events in rotation, like you suggested. Because it might get a bit dull if it's always exactly the same event every time. So hopefully everything goes well with the design and internal testing of this new event, so we can soon share it with all of you.
smoky rapids
@wanton tusk Thanks, dont worry I know that 100% can't be add and that some feature are most important, i just throw every idea I havr in here haha xD
celest sluice
For myself I prefer seeing a "family" clan and war before equipement like guns apparel and other accessories but thats me :)
smoky rapids
Equipement boost stats, not only estetic!
pallid sparrow
@wanton tusk Thanks for the feedback looking forward to seeing what's next also I was thinking it would be nice for the jailbreak store to change also or even have more things to buy as it's always the same thing every time that it resets.
digital pivot
Ok so O've got a massive issue with the Jailbreak.... I've got numerous buffs in my pack for Fight Power, yet none of them have increased, so I cant complete the Jailbreak thus missing out on both cigars, and tokens for the Jailbreal store! I feel robbed π€¨π€¨
pallid sparrow
@digital pivot Each buff is for a different type of character the flag on the buff also needs to match the flag of the character for it to work.
wanton tusk
@smoky rapids I know that you're just trying to help and I really appreciate it! So please feel free to keep sharing all your suggestions/feedback, it's very helpful for us π
@pallid sparrow thanks for the suggestion! Will check if we can change the rewards in the Jailbreak Store once in a while π
limpid garden
not that i want to change my name,but paying 20 euros(500D) for a name change is in my eyes a bit to to much. I understand it needs to costs something and i would find it more reasonable within a 50-100 diamond price range. i know the first 1 is free, but i just checked it and saw the price and i thought lets share my 2 cents here :)
wanton tusk
Hi @limpid garden I understand what you mean. The reason why we've set a very high price, is because we actually don't want to make it too easy for players to constantly change their names. For example, imagine when the guilds are introduced and player A joins a guild. Then he gets kicked because he was misbehaving in the guild, then he just changes his name to player B and tries to join the same guild again. So it can have some undesired effects if we would set the price too low π
But please feel free to let me know how you think about this. I'm happy to hear some feedback about it π
limpid garden
@wanton tusk understandable, but then i would suggest to raise it systematicly like first time 100,2nd 250 ,third 500 etc. The way you have now you punish the persons that accidentally did a typo or later in game prefer another name.
and thanks for taking my feedback serious. that stuff is rare since i was a tester back in the days for various games and people prefer you to shut up and test what is told to be tested and nothing more.
jagged wadi
Why no much event π. I'm getting bored
wanton tusk
I see what you mean, thanks a lot for the feedback @limpid garden ! We can indeed consider an incremental change and see how it works. Let me discuss this suggestion with the team. Thanks a lot!
And no worries, I'm really happy to hear about more ideas/suggestions/feedback. So at least we get an idea of what everyone likes or dislikes, so we can make improvements to the game π
Hi @jagged wadi , I agree with you that we need more to do in the game and I can guarantee you that we are already working on it π We are planning to release new content with the next update. So please stay tuned!
limpid garden
@wanton tusk Your welcome :). That is good to hear i will share whatever is on my mind if i come across something thats worth sharing ππ
bold jasper
Is it possible to transfer my progress from one device to another. I started on my phone, installed on tablet, but I have to start the game all over again, and not happy I'm missing my good capos.
versed edge
Facebook save
bold jasper
So if I connect to FB on my phone. Then connect on tablet, it will give me option on which to load?
versed edge
Worked for me, click your icon, settings, connect Facebook
celest sluice
Yes
Just remember this is the suggestion channel
<@&563214991444934676> maybe create a Q&A channel?
smoky rapids
<@&563214991444934676> and a balance channel?
lone fractal
@wanton tusk As to @limpid garden suggestion about name changing and previously kicked players returning to the guild under a different name. Couldnt the devs install a block player button which is linked to their game id, so it wouldnt matter name they chose as it be the game id that would be blocked
wanton tusk
@lone fractal yeah I understand what you mean, and this is something we have also thought about. The main worry we have with this system, is if the guild leader accidentally kicked the wrong member. Then this member would have no chance at all anymore to return to the guild. Or if the player was kicked due to inactivity, but then later the guild leader finds out the player was sick or on holiday, you would have the same situation that the player can't return to his previous guild anymore.
There's probably pros and cons to every suggestion. But I personally do like to keep the option open for someone to return to his/her previous guild. I think at this point I probably like @limpid garden suggestion best, where the cost for changing a name would increase every time. But please do let me know if you disagree or maybe have other ideas π
lone fractal
Can always make an unblock button ;)
coarse grove
I'm agréé with the cost increase. Was thinking same, but didnt know how to said it in English π
wanton tusk
@celest sluice @smoky rapids we can definitely consider adding more channels. It also looks like we're having quite a few new people joining every day, which is great! Let me think about the channels and then I will probably add some more by tomorrow or next week. Thanks for the suggestions though!
Haha @coarse grove π It's okay, I think there's quite a few French speakers in the chat, maybe they could help you translate it next time.
limpid garden
I got another suggestion for when there is a friendslist that you can send one of your capos to your friend to help him out to automize it when his capos are to low. Offcourse its also a nice option when crews get implemented.
smoky rapids
Je parle français si jamais @coarse grove
wanton tusk
Je ne parle pas de Francais, je suis dΓ©solΓ© @coarse grove
I like that idea @limpid garden ! Will be nice to add that in combination with guilds maybe as well, where you can maybe also borrow capos from guild members. Definitely interesting to further explore these possibilities. Thanks again for another suggestion! π
coarse grove
Hehe okay merci :p
limpid garden
@wanton tusk yeah exactly! your welcome :)
modern snow
Hey, could you raise the cap on Capos to 400, especially for the Epics? I have been stuck unable to progress whatsoever for about a month now and there's not much point in logging into the game or paying for the subscription if there is nothing to do.
smoky rapids
You have to gains star to raise their lvl
modern snow
Yup, but Epics can't go past level 350.
plush canopy
And, we are optimizing the star system. Should be easier after the next release.
modern snow
Is there some way to get Epics past five yellow stars?
smoky rapids
Hiw do you know the max is 350?
modern snow
All mine are 350 and I have lists of capo cards that I could use if there wasn't a cap.
*lots of capo cards...
smoky rapids
I dont know how you got past 100 haha
modern snow
Grandfathered in as I was an early adopter!
smoky rapids
So we normal cant do that?
Just upgrade your legebdary then
I dont understand why you "suggest" to up the epic level to 400 when the max is 100 in the game right now.
Just use your capo card to exchabge it for some legendary and youll be fine
modern snow
The exchange rate is massive, and I would need thousands of epic cards to upgrade my legendary cards.
smoky rapids
You need 100 fpr a legendary and its 10 per epi
So 1 for 10
And you dont need those card anywyas
modern snow
Do the math, I will need 20 of each legendary to level up past 350, x21 legendaries, so a total of 420 legendary x10 epics = 4,200 epics, never gonna have that many epics.
Plus when they lift the cap on Epics, I would have zero to use for upgrading them.
smoky rapids
Yep that tge point of an incrementing game , its long.
I don't think they will lift the cap on epic, that the goal of this game to concentrate on legendary later on
zenith burrow
Does anyone know for live event, is ranking depend on region or world wide, thanks.
coarse grove
Worldwide
zenith burrow
Make sense Solaris
celest sluice
@coarse grove i passed you like 30 min ago
zenith burrow
In general discussion, someone show me screen of of their division.
coarse grove
@celest sluice haha was offline ^^ ive spend my 900gems, but still hanging most of my coins for wheel. I will use them more wisely this time :p. But wheel isnt with me atm, many coin/gold spin, and sooooo few chips
celest sluice
Yeah feel ya
soft axle
Should still gain idle income while watching advertisements, I fell asleep last night watching an advert and 8 hours later I've gained nothing as I forgot to close the advert/app
plush canopy
Ha, will add this test case.
soft axle
I swear I had 12 hours x2 aswell but 8 hours later I've still got 11 hours x2 .. so confused lol
cunning hornet
Isn't it weird that the first rarity of cards is rare? If that's the base level for rarity then none of those cards are actually "rare"
soft axle
I think the rewards for the event leaderboard should be adjusted slightly, staggering the rewards a little more. 4th place could have the reward of x50 fragments and 5th x40 fragments for example, or maybe 4 keys instead of 3. Not only would it make it a bit more rewarding between the ranks, i feel it would give people more incentive to try progress on the leaderboard and bring some more friendly competition π
green berry
I think your character shouldn't just have to be Fario
You should be able to choose your character
It's only fair
Becaus esome people might not like Fario
Thank you for listening
wanton tusk
Hi @cunning hornet , thank you for your feedback and I fully understand what you mean. At the current stage of the game, it probably would've made more sense if we would've named the rare cards common, and the legendary cards rare.
However, the reason why we've named the cards in this way, was to give us the option to add a lower tier card, if that would be necessary during any stage of the development of the game. When we just started, we just didn't know yet if we would ever want/need to add a tier that's lower than rare, but at least we wanted to keep that option open. So yeah, we might need to rename the card tiers later, or we might add common cards later (if that would somehow be beneficial for any feature in the game).
Hi @soft axle , I see what you mean and I will discuss this idea with the team. Thanks for your feedback! π
wanton tusk
Hi @green berry , thank you for your feedback. And I agree with what you said, it always feels nicer if you could have the option to fully customize your own character in a game. In the beginning of the development phase, we have decided to use 'default' game characters and build a storyline around these characters. We're currently working on this storyline, so we hope we can add these later in the game.
The reason why we have opted to use default game characters is, first of all, because it is just the easiest implementation, i.e. no need to think about customization options (imagine all the art work that's needed to create all the different face types, body types, skin colors, etc.). Second, since we want to tell a story, it would be convenient if all players are following the same story of the same character in the game, otherwise there might be situations that don't seem realistic at all for the specific character that the player has created. Third, marketing wise it would be easy to have a very specific character for the game that all the player know (e.g. everyone knows who Mario, Sonic, etc. are). By the way, not saying that our game will become as legendary as Mario or Sonic, but just taking them as a reference π
So there were multiple reasons for us to go for the default in-game characters. But yes, ultimately, each option would have its pros and cons π
storm compass
Hi
primal spindle
Hi
sacred current
Hi
coarse grove
Hi
primal spindle
Any chance if a couple of mini events through week it's my only downfall
Hey guys
long slate
Why is advancement so expensive?
You spend forever building your money up for it to go as quick when upgrading
pallid sparrow
@long slate That's what makes the game fun... What's the point in playing a game that you can have everything right away. Ain't no fun in that.
shadow maple
Thanks for the invite! Games super addictive!
faint hedge
Thank you for the invite 
wanton tusk
Hi @primal spindle , yes I agree with you. At the moment I also feel there's not enough to do on weekdays. We're already working on some new features that we want to add to the game, that should give everyone additional things to do. The only thing that we have to be careful about, is that this game shouldn't become a 24/7 job, lol. So we want to add new content, but at the same time don't want to exhaust everyone. It's a tricky line to balance, but we will do our best to add content that's fun to play, without it being to exhausting, if that makes sense π
Cheers, great to have you with us! @shadow maple @faint hedge π
shadow maple
Hey @wanton tusk it being a full time job would be a good thing! Would add to the appeal of the game and get people purchasing. I play video games for a living lol
scarlet skiff
Newbie here, has anyone addressed the various typos and such like?
iron portal
Let her rip
scarlet skiff
Only one I can think of off the top of my head is "Mails". It should be Mail. I'll scour the game for more when I log back in π€
hollow turtle
So how exactly is one supposed to get legendary capos? I know about the chests, but at lvl 16, I cant get a capo to purple star. And automation is lvl107. I'm sure greedy developers want me to buy, but eff that. Prices are rediculosly stupid for such a meager game.
iron portal
Tradeups
Purples pretty much become useless quickly and they all go to legendary trades
And then you should be saving blue keys for guaranteed legendaries
Probably be popping 2 a day?
hollow turtle
Thx. That's what I thought. Much appreciated.
coarse grove
Participate at tomorrow event, and you will be happy of the rewards, it will help you have Γ good start
hollow turtle
The events have been fun. I've done 2 so far, ranked the 1st, learned a lot. Did decent on the 2nd
Hope to rock tomorrows
slender siren
Just random thought maybe more mafia members form around the world like Brazil ππ§π·
shadow maple
Or Canada lol
wanton tusk
Thanks a lot for reporting the typo @scarlet skiff ! Let me change that. And please feel free to report any other typos you find in the game. Happy to fix them π
Haha, thanks for the suggestions @slender siren @shadow maple ! Adding more nationalities is something we have already talked about in the team. However, I should say that this will probably not be implemented anytime soon. As we believe there's other features that have a bit higher priority to be added to the game first, e.g.: more gameplay features, more ways to increase the power level of capos, some bug fixes, improvements on existing features, etc. But yeah, eventually we would really love to have a bigger variety of capos in the game π
green berry
There are no event icons. Whay?
coarse grove
@green berry do you have thΓ© last update 1.4.0 ?
green berry
No
coarse grove
Then it's why you dont have thΓ© icon. Cause the event is now set on japan.
You have to got the last update to be able to join. If you dont find idle mafia in your shop, pm solmyr with the email you set in the playstore or ios, so he can add you as bΓͺta player, and you can download it
coarse grove
Ios or android ?
green berry
Android
coarse grove
And you mean hΓ© already did this manipulation ?
Open playstore and go in "my game and applications" then search idle mafia, other wise you wont find it in regular way
But if you downloaded it like 2 weeks ago, you aren't "really Γ bΓͺta player" cause they locked game to US and an other country, and if you arent from those 2 you wont be able to update game if you dont ask Solmyr to add you on the list
green berry
Now the game its not fun. Rulete machine do nothing.
wanton tusk
Cheers, thanks a lot again for the help Solaaris! π
And just to clarify, the game is currently only listed in the Canadian and UK Google Play Store π
Hi @green berry could you maybe explain a bit more what problems you're facing exactly with the slot machine? Does the Start button not work, or do you not get the rewards, or do you not get any Slot Coins to play the slot machine? If you could provide us with a little bit more information, we're happy to look into the issue for you. Thanks in advance!
soft axle
Reduce the price of the legendary capos in jailbreak from 10,000 to maybe 7,500? You can get 10 blue keys for 5,000 which is a guaranteed 'random' capo, so yes it should be more than 5,000 as you get to choose the capo but dont think if should be twice as much, especially with the new capo upgrade system in place
And maybe implement 1 guaranteed purple capo from opening 10 gold keys, similar to the guaranteed legendary from the blue keys, I know mostly you do but sometimes it's all blue capos and would be a nice incentive considering 10 blue capos is only 1/10th of a legendary equal to 1 purple capo also being 1/10th of a legendary ?
lament tusk
I agree
celest sluice
Same here
wanton tusk
Thanks for both suggestions @soft axle ! We will look into these and see if we could tweak some numbers π
Hi @primal coyote @celest sluice , yes, actually we are already aware of the fact that the game sometimes requires a lot power. Most probably because of all the little animations that are running at the same time. We are looking into this and will try to optimize it. Thanks for letting us know! π
iron portal
Low power mode w/ no animations?
primal coyote
@wanton tusk Thanks. So far it's my only issue
limpid garden
I would like to see the extra rolls being added to this slot machine. It makes more sense and you know like 90% of your rolls are not gonna be interesting so it gives you the hope you can get win some rolls and try again. At this point its like going to the casino and you have to sit at a bad slot machine since the rest are occupied π
i know you want us to spend diamonds, but i think you should save that for another feature like upgrading permanent stuff, maybe with buffs or something. Like a buff that doubles income of a certain business or capo country or a buff that lowers the needed level to automate business. I would see more value in spending diamonds on things i will be able to have the next time i login.
wanton tusk
Hi @iron portal , thanks for your suggestion. And yes, that is indeed one of the options that we will be looking into. If I recall correctly, I think Matthias has made a similar suggestion before.
Thanks for your suggestion @limpid garden , and I like the example you gave, haha π
Actually this event was also an opportunity for us to try out different things, e.g. slightly different rewards from the slot machine, different progress rate, etc. And it's always interesting to compare how certain changes are perceived. For example, if we would have made this event exactly the same as the Las Vegas event, but would've only changed the background and the capos, it would not really feel as if it's a different event. So with this event, we also wanted to make sure that the feeling (and the strategy involved) would be different.
And I think you also make a good point with the diamonds spending. That's actually an interesting way to look at it. Will definitely discuss this with the team next week. Thanks! π
limpid garden
@wanton tusk I know you are trying out new things and that is good.π im just here to give my feedback π. for the lottery prices i would personally remove the legendary puzzle piece and 50 gem and change that with a 15 and 60 roll prize. At high level the puzzle piece is kind of a waste since its pretty easy to get legendary capos at higher level plus since you implemented the option to upgrade cards with different capos the need to "grind " for a certain capos has become less needed.
@wanton tusk by the way what i do like about this event is the sushi balance. i dont have the problem at this point to need to grind for sushi to get things automated. Probably because i cant level that fast, but its better then with the other slotmachine
rugged glade
This game is the BEST!!!!
dire yarrow
Yeaaay
viscid wind
viscid wind
Hi guys I'm new to the game and looking for a little advice if possible? I have several of the same capo cards, c above screenshot. Am I missing something? Can I do anything with the multiple cards?
dire yarrow
Yes
When ur rank is up to 10 you can send your multiple cards away to get 1 better card
viscid wind
Ah ok thanks. So I just gotta wait till I'm level 10. Thanks
dire yarrow
Rare card =1 , Epic card =10 ...... for an epic card you have to send 20 for a legendary card u have to send 100
viscid wind
Think I'm rank 7 now so not long 2 go lol
viscid wind
π
wanton tusk
@limpid garden Cheers, thanks a lot for all the feedback! And it's very nice to also hear about the reasoning why you think something works well or should be improved. That's very helpful! π
mystic barn
Fin fame loving it
limpid garden
@wanton tusk your welcome!
empty rain
Hello. Let me start off by saying i absolutely love this game. One of the best and most well thought out idle games ive ever played. That being said, i due have one increasingly frustrating problem with it; the capo lvl requirements for building automation. Quite frankly, they're getting excessively out of control. Ive just reached rank 18, and i can barely automate any buildings. Ive got 32/40 capos collected, all rares and epics lvl and star maxxed. Only missing 8 legendaries. Problem is, ive only been able to get 6 of my legendaries to 6 stars so far, as additional tokens so seldomly appear in safes. Its very hard to progress now as i make almost no cash while offline. Id just like the automation lvl requirements to be a little more reasonable, thats all. Otherwise, i have no complaints.
wanton tusk
Hi @empty rain , first of all, thank you for the compliment! It's always nice to hear compliments and knowing that there's players out there who like our game :)
Second, yes, I agree with you that the numbers need to be tweaked. I think the progress in the earlier stages is fine. But at a certain point, the difficulty probably increases a bit too much. So we're already looking into the data and will do our best to optimize the progress in the game. Thank you for letting us know about your experience!
empty rain
@wanton tusk thank you for the prompt reply! I do truly look forward to playing this game as much as i can and its a shame ive reached a bit of a stalemate with game progress. I appreciate you taking this issue into consideration, as thats far more than most mobile games devs do nowadays.
wanton tusk
@empty rain No problem! And if you have any other suggestions/feedback/concerns later on in the game, please feel free to share them with us. We're happy to receive more feedback, so we know which parts of the game we need to improve.
And I know what it feels to be stuck. I have no idea what street 16 looks like π€·ββοΈ
empty rain
@wanton tusk the struggle is real....π©
wanton tusk
Haha, yeah I know. And I think most players in our Discord channel are at this point where it gets very hard to automate buildings. We are already looking into tweaking some data and hopefully that will improve things for everyone π
empty rain
@wanton tusk that would be seriously amazing if you guys could haha. Literally the only flaw ive found in this game.
limpid garden
lvl 31 here. I feel your struggle @empty rain . I would say things get better,but they need to tweak it first before i can say that π€£π
empty rain
@limpid garden hahaha yeah dude. I mean, right now it isnt impossible really, its just a lot more tedious and difficult than it necessarily needs to be lol.
limpid garden
true, im just patiently waiting on the tweaks :)
on to the next street for me π
empty rain
@limpid garden congtats! Lol idk about you, but i cant bring myself to go to a new street until i clear every challenge lol
limpid garden
hehe no i dont have that problem. the rewards are not that needed to have an advance for the next street so i just move on when i can.
empty rain
@limpid garden haha lucky. I havent missed a single one yet...its super tedious at times lol
wanton tusk
I'm like Vahule, I just have to finish all the missions, before I even think of moving to the next street, lol
empty rain
@wanton tusk the struggle is real lmao
wanton tusk
Yeah haha, I know. But, it will get better.... some day π
empty rain
@wanton tusk lol good ol' eventually land π€£
wanton tusk
Anyways, the game is still not officially launched yet, and there's still many more features to come. So I'm pretty sure we will always need to re-balance things in the game with each new update π
empty rain
@wanton tusk ok, since you know stuff...when the game officially launches...we arent going to lose our progress are we?
wanton tusk
Ah right, no, we will keep our progress. We don't want to do a full reset
empty rain
@wanton tusk oh thank god lol so depressing when are your effort is wiped
wanton tusk
But I am considering to maybe reset my own account, just to have a fresh start again and see how the progress feels.
Haha, yeah I know what you mean
empty rain
@wanton tusk what rank are you right now?
wanton tusk
(please don't laugh) but I'm on street 15 π
empty rain
@wanton tusk hey man, all things considered, thats still pretty great
wanton tusk
See, Solaaris is already making fun of me π
coarse grove
ππ
limpid garden
15? thats just wrong @wanton tusk . Quit doing your work here and start leveling π€£
wanton tusk
Yeah, I haven't really progressed much on my live account. Currently mostly doing tests on the test account. We're currently in the progress of translating the game to 15 more languages
coarse grove
Cant wait for the french one :3
wanton tusk
Yep, French is definitely included π
coarse grove
15 more languages , ofc i hope French is in it π¬
empty rain
@wanton tusk should have a "preschooler" language option, where the script vaguely makes sense and the descriptions are poor best π€£
wanton tusk
Hahaha, that's an interesting idea! π
limpid garden
@wanton tusk Klingon included? π
wanton tusk
Haha, no Klingon unfortunately, we couldn't find any available testers for Klingon π
limpid garden
Well.... i know a few, but probably 0,005% of the players will eventually use it. Not worth the time π
empty rain
@wanton tusk you should do Canadian English, in all its stereotypical glory :D as a canadian myself, i could definitely test it
wanton tusk
Haha, I've also seen some suggestions to add Canadian capos to the game. It would feel pretty authentic if they would speak Canadian English (or Canadian French), haha
empty rain
@wanton tusk YESSSS THAT WOULD BE AMAZING. I use Canadian english daily, so id be asuper happy camper seeing both the language and capos in game
wanton tusk
Actually there's quite a few Canadians in our Discord server. We've done most of our promotions in Canada until now. So you guys are definitely well represented in this chat
Anyways, I'm gonna get some dinner now. Wish you all a very nice day/morning/evening/night! And please leave your feedback and I will make sure to either check it later tonight or tomorrow morning. Thanks a lot for all your support with the game! π
empty rain
@wanton tusk have a good one!
limpid garden
@wanton tusk take care. Eet ze!
wanton tusk
Thanks @empty rain !
Dankjewel @limpid garden !
primal coyote
Is there any chance we could get a rotation function so the game can be played with your phone facing up or down. For me my charger being at the bottom makes it more of a quality of life
clever storm
My suggestion would be if we wanted to stay with the slot machine mechanic to increase the odds of actually winning with each star, reduce the 300 gems for 150 coins(or increase the coins from 150), or reduce the cost for upgrading capos since it seems everyone has millions of sushi but not enough money to upgrade
Also +1 for canadian capos! π¨π¦
wanton tusk
Hi @clever storm , thanks a lot for your suggestions! Please allow me to reply to them one by one below π
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Increase the odds of winning with each star.
I understand where this suggestion comes from, as it will allow you to progressively get better rewards, open more buildings, generate more income and climb higher on the rankings. However, since other players will also progress faster, most probably it will not have a big impact on the leaderboard. Unless if this suggestion is aimed at clearing more milestone rewards, because that will indeed be made possible with this change. Or we could maybe lower the requirements for each milestone reward, which will more or less have the same effect.
Now that the event has finished, we will look into the data again and also compare it with previous events. Since this is the first time we've had the Japan event, I'm pretty sure we will need to tweak some data in order to make the event more fun and rewarding. By no means do I think this was the perfect execution of the Japan event, nor did I think we would hit the nail right on the head with our first try π -
Reduce the 300 gems for 150 coins (or increase the coins from 150)
I think Matthias has made a similar suggestion before. And we will definitely look into this, to see if we need to add the Slot Coins as a reward from the Slot Machine. So the reason why we have removed these Slot Coins in this event, is because we wanted to try something different and see what everyone's experiences will be. As some people have mentioned already, they managed to win some Diamonds from the Slot Machine, which seemed harder to realize on the Las Vegas Roulette Wheel. So we're just trying out different things and will try to pick out the positive experiences from each event and work further on that.
- Reduce the cost for upgrading capos since it seems everyone has millions of sushi but not enough money to upgrade
I see, and you're right, we will probably need to work on the balance of this event. Now that the event is finished, we can collect all the data and start analyzing it. We will try our best to take into account all the feedback that we have received and will continue to optimize the events step by step.
Again, much appreciated for all your feedback! It's really helpful for us π
clever storm
The leaderboard should be for the people who get up every few hours to check their game, I understand that. I spent real money and only got to half of the rewards, I didnt even get any of my gems back from it. Hopefully next time it's fixed! This is one of the best idle games I've played in awhile, keep up the good work and thank you!
wanton tusk
Cheers, thanks a lot Jen! π
And thanks for the follow up! I do believe we need to tweak some data for this event. We will see how we can improve this event for the next time. Thanks again for all your feedback and sharing your experiences with us π
cunning hornet
Where are the hot, sexy British Capos at? @wanton tusk π
mystic barn
@wanton tusk you play rise of civilization?
versed willow
Canadian capos would be a cool edition if they were bikers. The mafia in canada is also italian which is already represented. Lots of options for other countries too. Chinese Triads, irish IRA. Etc
sacred herald
Codes
wanton tusk
Haha, we can consider adding British capos! But we probably want to add some more features to the game first, and improve the game flow and the events. So adding more nations will probably be a long-term plan. Sorry about that π
@mystic barn obviously I only play Idle Mafia, how dare you to try and trick me into exposing what other games I play :p
But on a serious note though, no, I haven't played Rise of Civilization π
Thanks for the suggestions @versed willow ! We will hopefully be adding more nationalities of capos in the future. I think it would be really cool to have all sorts of capos in the game later on!
mystic barn
Yes I love the game can see alot of potential
limpid garden
every now and then i see a mission popping up on the bountylist im not able to do. Simply because my capo is not high enough from a certain country. In my eyes it has no use for it to be there. The reward it has compared to the costs it would take to level up a capo to be able to do that mission is not realistically achievable. i think that mission should be removed for a doable one. The list is already limited so its kind of a waste not being able to do a mission on it.
wanton tusk
I see what you mean. Thanks for the feedback @limpid garden ! We will check how we can improve this π
limpid garden
@wanton tusk awesome! ππ
coarse grove
I feel you Mathias... And now for me since ive promoted one capo to high, half my missions are unrealisable
limpid garden
@coarse grove good to hear im not the only one :)
primal coyote
@limpid garden I have the same issue today
grizzled flame
add a few ways to make diamonds like even if its 20-40 diamonds a day so that we can do some of the instant fight missions without having to spend diamonds
or add them for completing levels in jailbreak
wanton tusk
Hi @grizzled flame , thank you for your suggestion! We're actually already planning to add some more features soon that will give some nice additional rewards :)
And I understand the need for extra Diamonds and Cigars. And actually, the weekly events are a nice way to get some extra Diamonds, Key and Cigars. A new event will start in a bit more than 6 hours from now, so I hope you can win some extra Diamonds and Cigars there! π
grizzled flame
a nice feature in future could be equipments for your characters maybe boosting their attack/hp/money making ability
coarse grove
@wanton tusk last event was more Γ way to lost diamonds than to earn ππ¬
grizzled flame
yeh but if you want all the rewards your always going too have to spend more than you make same with every game
wanton tusk
@grizzled flame yep, equipment is definitely something that we want to add to the game π
limpid garden
@coarse grove i still broke even on the diamonds π
coarse grove
If it's not like japan event, I will spend some. Other wise i wont even play event, cause i didnt even reach the 100 diamonds milestones. Using 500 π
wanton tusk
@coarse grove yes, last event was the Japan event. That was our first try with this event and we need to tweak some data for this event, that is for sure. But this weekend's event will be the good ol' Las Vegas event. I think that one is a bit better balanced π
grizzled flame
maybe a quality of life update for being able to collect all buildings at same time or maybe its already there and I don't know
fluid rover
can we get mob cars?
rigid hazel
Can anyone tell me why the app is not on Google play store any more and why I don't have the Vegas event
coarse grove
@rigid hazel only ai valable in us and uk.
Pm solmyr if you want it
grizzled flame
vegas event you need a certain level to play I think
maybe level 5-6 not sure
might be wrong though
wanton tusk
@grizzled flame that's an interesting suggestion, we will consider it. Thank you!
@fluid rover sure, we are open to all kinds of suggestions! Do you maybe have ideas already of how the cars can be used in the game?
limpid garden
@wanton tusk i got one for the cars. You need cars to transport friend/clan capos to help you to automate business for transport to your city. Another option is to use a car for a driveby during fights like the ultimate that capo Meyer has in Mama Mafia. You can use own capos in the car or friends/clan. Next to that you can add customization to the car for additional bonus like 1. damage 2.health 3. health capos in the field 4. duration that they stay
It would be actually cool to be able to use own capos so you have more purpose in upgrading them since they determin the damage the car has. You can use 2 car max with 4 each so you can use the bonus thing like they have in Mama Mafia like when you use the same country capos you get an extra bonus.
narrow lion
After upgrade I only get the lowest on the wheel n no more free spins. I think its fix
fluid rover
can we get some kind of bonus if all capos are the same type while fighting?
i'm going for all japanese capos at the moment
@wanton tusk it would be cool if there was some kind of insignia in the game especially if you introduce PvP elements, like can my capos park mob cars outside? or have mob cars driving around? maybe change building decorations
primal coyote
Yeah having some kind of reward for having an all X team would be cool mine are almost all japan too
But then the randomness of income on legendary capos could change that for me soon
wanton tusk
That's a very interesting suggestion, thanks a lot @limpid garden ! I agree that a car could open up a lot of interesting ideas for friends and clans. Will discuss this idea with the team, thanks again! π
@fluid rover I agree with you, that could be an interesting feature to add to the game. We will look into this, thanks a lot for your suggestion! π
median lantern
Hey
limpid garden
@wanton tusk your welcome:) Next to this there is so much you can do with this game. the possibilities are endless. π
oh btw i got a suggestion. When you play jailbreak and a capo dies you start the next round with 4 players. I intend to click to fast and start the fight with 4 players without selecting a fifth. Could you add for my stupidity a warning sign that says i dont have 5 capos selected or something? So like you have to click the warning sign again to continue if you want to fight with less then 5 capos. π
median lantern
@limpid garden @limpid garden @limpid garden @limpid garden @limpid garden @limpid garden @limpid garden
coarse grove
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dire yarrow
limpid garden
@median lantern sup?
wanton tusk
Haha, that's a good suggestion, will add that to our to-do list. Thanks @limpid garden π
limpid garden
@wanton tusk thanks ππ
bronze sparrow
Is anyone else having bottleneck issues at this stage in the event? I got bottlenecked for almost 24 hours trying to upgrade the bar and now im bottlednecked upgrading rob. It seems too steep a price per upgrade for the amount of cash you are actually making and the time limit of the event? This is unhelped by the fact that i rolled so many gold bars on the roulette at every stage.
gloomy swift
the bottlenecks happen wherever the wheel decides to shaft you, im stuck at upgrading the AV studio because i need 16 hours worth of chips to upgrade it, or just 2 wheels worth of tokens
but i cant get anything remotely valuable on the wheel, i have 10mill goldbars and only need 50k to upgrade a cap but dont have the chips to do it
the entire progression is based on the wheel but its just so annoying
bronze sparrow
Yesterday i must have had 8 to 10 gold bar results on the wheel in a row which completely screwed me for the bar.
Even still at this point i just rolled two of the low chip results on the wheen and that only gave me like 5 levels on Rob. It feels like the price per upgrade is way too high at this stage to be fair
median lantern
Yo
empty rain
Is he any good? Was wondering if i should bother starring him up any further? Or use the shards for somebody else?
primal coyote
@empty rain which capo you star doesnt realy matter just make sure you have atleast 1 of each type for business and auto function
full berry
wanton tusk
Hi @edgy sundial , we're aiming for mid April π
tame harbor
Hi
edgy sundial
Sup
tame harbor
Mmmmm cool
tame harbor
O ok
edgy sundial
Ja
tame harbor
Gtg
edgy sundial
Ja I going hot automobile
steady bobcat
Suggestion 01: Multiplayer/Guild/League system should be a priority for developers. It would make the game much more enjoyable. This would also allow for cosmetic microtransactions that don't ruin the game for people, and still bring money to the developers.
Suggestion 02: Epic characters become useless even as a free player after 4-5days. Star and level cap are the reason.
Suggestion 03: please make events that are possible to fully complete without spending money. I felt I was doing great on last event and got lucky with rng, but even so, I couldn't possibly get last 4-6 rewards. Events should encourage people spend more time in the game, not to spend more money.
Other than that, the game is really good and enjoyable, my favourite idle game at this moment. Please don't ruin it with even more pay2progress and I'm sure you guys will kick off and have a great success with this.
crimson token
Anyone had problems with missions not giving rewards and getting stuck
azure osprey
Hey all
lilac meadow
Yo yo
hearty vine
@steady bobcat Many thanks for taking your time and writing these suggestions and feedback! I forwarded them all already π Personally I really like the first suggestion!
Regarding your second suggestion/feedback, do you have further details? In which regards are they becoming useless?
Regarding the balancing we already received numerous feedback so it's currently being tweaked and worked on. Finding the golden ratio is quite difficult but the developers are working hard on polishing everything before the official release.
@crimson token I will contact you via DM shortly π
edgy sundial
Solmyr is this game out on other devices because I see a lot of pictures of the game or are they just leakers
wanton tusk
Hi @edgy sundial , sorry what do you mean with other devices? Our game is currently available in the Canadian and UK Google Play Store and iOS App Store. And it will soon become available for all stores in all countries.
indigo moat
Kicking ass and taking names
safe hatch
How for up capo 1 star purple to two stars ?
coarse grove
@safe hatch
safe hatch
Need 2 same other capo ?
coarse grove
One from same nation one from same type
eternal thornBOT
Congratulations @coarse grove! You just advanced to level 2!
safe hatch
Ok ty
azure osprey
Is there a Emma on this discord
sly cipher
Hey there
coarse grove
Hi !
sly cipher
where's everyone from?
tame harbor
Canada A Bud do you want some Timmys
sly cipher
ok, and I'm from Russia (don't panic)
sly cipher
)))
coarse grove
Im from France, but we should be talking in #game-discussion :p
iron portal
native fulcrum
QUANDO O JOGO SAI PARA O BRASIL?????
sly cipher
the same question in Russia
azure osprey
Am from the Scotland, uk
sly cipher
Ok
hearty vine
@safe hatch I will contact you in a moment with a Direct Message to ask for your Game ID!
eternal thornBOT
Congratulations @hearty vine! You just advanced to level 1!
empty rain
@wanton tusk ok, i know you guys are working on balancing issues and thats awesome, but ive been stuck with only 2 businesses running (one of which isnt auto) on street 21. Its been this way for 4 days now. I cant fight on for any businesses as it results in instant death, i have been able to complete any cigar fights in quite some time for the same reason, and the jailbreak is pretty much at this point too. I pretty much cant play anymore.
iron portal
How tf did you get to 6-11 with those capos
worldly mantle
Im not it has jumped me ahead somehow it is literally impossible to beat it now
gloomy swift
atleast your cigars / min went up? not saying the tradeoff is good but thats gotta be odd
ive had some weird surges in power for fights but nothing that severe
empty rain
I just picture gandalf yelling "YOU SHALL NOT PASS" in this instance lol
zinc oyster
How do I get the gold players
wanton tusk
@empty rain I'm sorry to hear about that. It does look like street 21 has become a bottleneck for some of us. So we will definitely look into this. Could you maybe DM me your Game ID? Then we will compare your game data with those of others who are also suck on street 21.
And we are also looking into the Cigar Fights and Jailbreak. Because it also seems like after the update, for some players these 2 features got significantly more difficult. We will also do our best to tweak the numbers for these features.
@worldly mantle do you maybe still remember what stage you were on in the Cigar Fights before the update? And could you maybe also send me your Game ID by DM? Then we will look into this for you.
tawny heart
The game deleted all my data
wanton tusk
I have sent you a DM @tawny heart
By the way, this is bound to get confusing as there seems to be 2 Jayjay's in the server now, haha
zinc oyster
How do u send cards
wanton tusk
Hi @zinc oyster do you mean to send capo cards to other players? I'm afraid this is not possible in the game.
zinc oyster
Oh ok so how can I get gold capo cards
wanton tusk
You can get more capo cards by opening the Safes. And you can open Safes with Keys or Diamonds π
zinc oyster
Ok thank u
wanton tusk
Sure, no problem!
zinc oyster
On this event what are the missions
gloomy swift
Base game has a money generated per second visable in the top left. Maybe add that to the events as well
eternal thornBOT
Congratulations @gloomy swift! You just advanced to level 2!
mystic barn
Wooohoo
wanton tusk
Noted, thanks for the suggestion @gloomy swift !
limpid garden
Just some feedback on the event. The slotmachine has been allot better then 2 weeks ago. Also, i have reached 4 more milestones then the vegas event within the current timeframe which makes me just very lucky on rolls or this event became easier then the vegas event. Either way im currently happy the way things are going compared to the last japan event. ππ
gloomy swift
I like the pacing but i feel too dependant on the wheel to get anywhere
Its hard to get sushi to automate, im at a position where i get 1oo every 2mins from buildings but a single wheelspin of 2yen gives me 200pp.
I could spent the entire event collexting and it wouldnt equal the gain of a single wheelspin
coarse grove
For me it's balanced, start was hard, but now sushi and else are all correct
gloomy swift
And its not that im playing suboptinally im in top 70 without spending anything
What point are you at
coarse grove
Nn, ive spend diamonds only, didnt count, maybe 600. It will be worth it with the rewards
gloomy swift
Did u spend it on the wheel?
coarse grove
Plan is to spend 60 diamonds each time thΓ© right quest is on "get 15 wheel coins"
Only on wheel yes
coarse grove
Yes, Nn. Not nn and not NN ^^
gloomy swift
Ok
coarse grove
Ive put Γ screenshot in #game-discussion
gloomy swift
Im just past nn without gems. Its kinda insane how much wheel gets u this event
Im not gemming till i have enough to secure a top3
coarse grove
Hard to know how many gems you will have to spend to be top3... It dΓ©pend on your luck, and on how many other spend
I focus millestones, not really thΓ© top3
clever oriole
Hello!
strong karma
Is there any developers here
fleet pasture
Hello
proud vortex
Hi
viscid crescent
Currently having issues with the event, Iβve been locked out of the capos, office etc due to an issue
devout shadow
When does this game comes out on europe
coarse grove
They said 14 april
devout shadow
Daamn so aweful have waited very long
wanton tusk
@viscid crescent Could you please DM me your Game ID? Then we will look into it for you.
lilac edge
@wanton tusk Iβve been Locked out of capo office and prizes too c
bright sluice
zealous locust
Why i dont have events?
coarse grove
Cause event finished 2h ago :p
eternal thornBOT
Congratulations @coarse grove! You just advanced to level 4!
hardy fractal
For the next weekly event, could there be nothing that relies on RNG? Kinda pointless to play if RNG is the deciding factor
primal coyote
It will be a casino like event every week as far as I know
Just a reskin if anything
I did enjoy the last event but rng screwed me for 24hrs all I got was sushi over and over
wanton tusk
Hi @lilac edge , sorry for the late reply. But could you please report this issue to our Customer Support team from your game? We would like to collect all bug reports through our in-game support system, instead of Discord. Thanks for your understanding π
vocal gull
I feel like cigar fight suddenly got alot harder
obtuse isle
@vocal gull
primal coyote
@vocal gull it did they "tweaked" it in the last update
mystic barn
Hey guys how is everyone enjoying the game this far
limpid garden
@wanton tusk Could you guys look into progress on higher level. im stuck for a week on level 34 and by the looks of it that will take atleast another week if im lucky with a legendary capo upgrade. Dont think people will accept being stuck for that long on one level. π
plush canopy
Got it, could you DM your game id? Actually we just had a meeting yesterday about the progression
limpid garden
@plush canopy sure ,check dm
modern snow
At rank 42 the game basically ends. Maybe a full month to finish one street.
green berry
Hello from france ! π«π·
I apply for the beta test of the application for like 12 hours and i can't even download it at time.
Did you know why ?
coarse grove
@green berry salut, ils avaient dit qu'ils acceptaient plus personne pour la bΓͺta, la sortie du jeu est prΓ©vue le 14 avril
green berry
Oh, d'accord, merci β€οΈ
trim surge
I think idle mafia is a great game ππ€π―
lusty kindle
Guys any tips on best strategy with capos battle
Because am finding it hard to beat now
Am in miami
lusty kindle
Alright thank you
vocal gull
damage is set but the arrangement of your 5 really matters
and your own capos skill set cuz enemy skills too
hardy fractal
ohh
vocal gull
yeah you can really turn a fight if you have someone with self-destruct ability and they die first.
lusty dove
Hi everyone
coarse grove
Hello !
lusty dove
I have a question. I had a capo on 4 purple start and on level 208. Nexr level cost me around 400k cigars . Then i finally got enough capos and added last purple star and now the same level cost me 900k cigars. The price doubled just by adding a star.
On 4 purple stars*
Is that supposed to happen or is it a mistake? Because now my capo is level 208 and 5 purple start and i have to give over 900k per level and i got another capo with 4 purple start at level 220 and the price is only 470k
Stars* gosh
plush canopy
@lusty dove could you DM your game id? Let me check this issue.
vocal gull
speaking of which, the upgrade cost for one level goes from ~ 10 million cigars to ~ 20 million cigars at level 340 to level 341 but i assume that's intended ?
plush canopy
You got pretty far, we are still tweaking the late game.
lusty dove
How do i DM ? π
plush canopy
And yes. Thatβs intended, since after you got a new star, the cigars/m also gets higher.
@lusty dove let me do it
lusty dove
But thats what the problem is ? Because after you add star the price doubles even thought you havent finished upgrading the capo to max level. So with 4 purple starts you can upgrade to 260max. Mine was around 210+- and after i added my 5. Purple star the price doubled even though j havent reached 260 yet .
vocal gull
lol I wonder if anyone else is where I am to support what im saying but the hard limit is cigar now. so hard to get.
plush canopy
Yes, thatβs a problem. The price should only be doubled after you break the level limit
lusty dove
Yeah but i didnt reach the limit yet and the price still doubled after adding a star?
plush canopy
No, that should not be like that.
lusty dove
Can i write the id here?
plush canopy
Sure.
lusty dove
I just added another star to another capo and it didnt happen. It only happen when i added the 5. Purple star to this one
The price was 400k for the same level before adding the star
Or aroubd 400k+-
plush canopy
Got it. Let me check.
clever oriole
lol yes, the cigar price should depend only of the level, not on the stars
vocal gull
wondering if i can get some clarification in what determines when a skill will go off in a fight lol
plush canopy
For most skills, it will be triggered at the begging of the fights, or it will specify when will it go off, like when the capo dies, when the hp is lower than 60% and etc.
Hi @lusty dove just checked, for level 219 to 220, it's 425135, and for level 220 to 221, it's 850270.
lusty dove
Ahh so it jumps like that? Thats crazy π± well better go and save up. Because of 20hours of collecring i only have around 2million cigars. So only 2 levels a day π±π³
vocal gull
For most skills, it will be triggered at the begging of the fights, or it will specify when will it go off, like when the capo dies, when the hp is lower than 60% and etc.
@plush canopyi feel like some of the red skills go off earlier than others~ while the green healing skills barely go off at all. especially the one that heals entire team
lusty dove
@plush canopyi feel like some of the red skills go off earlier than others~ while the green healing skills barely go off at all. especially the one that heals entire team
@vocal gull yeah i noticed as well. The good skills almost never go off
plush canopy
@vocal gull could you also DM your game ID?
or could you send me a screenshot of the skill never go off?
vocal gull
ID is SimonRiley
skill in question is combat medicine. i feel if the chapo survive long enough it will go off but not usually
plush canopy
Please send me the Game ID in settings, π
lusty dove
The skill goes off normally in jail break but in my usual cigar fight the medicine to heal everyone takes way longer to go off. In jail brrak it goes in few seconds of the fight
vocal gull
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undone onyx
Hello guys!
plush canopy
Hey
@vocal gull just checked, the skill will go off on the 6th round, and in your cigar fight, it ends at 4/5 rounds π
will try optimize this, maybe it could go off when the total hp goes lower than certain value.
like the whole team hp is lower than 50%
then it will be more clear when will it go off
vocal gull
ya that's what i was wondering i thought alot of the skills have a time component to go off in certain rounds but it's just not said anywhere
i think 6th round is a little underpowered but I'm ok with that. as long as i know when the skills are meant to go off before I invest leveling that chapo, it's ok
clever oriole
@lofty gust @wanton tusk which is the name of the game? Clicker Mafia? Mafia Tap? No... The game is called IDLE Mafia, it should no require you to be clicking the benefits of a business every 30 seconds... The auto feature should be something to help users lvl properly the capos to a minimum lvl, not something difficult to achieve
I move the discussion here instead of the General channel
lusty dove
Hmm i dont see a problem. You can upgrade your capos any time to automate your buildings π
iron portal
gottem
gloomy swift
The issue most people seem to run into, is that you don't generate cigars fast enough to keep up with the scaling level capos need to be
lusty dove
Yeah. It takes time to save up
gloomy swift
Say you're at level 10 (im using random numbers here ) and u need capos at level 90 to automate everything, thatll take maybe 2days of automated cigar generation to get everyone to 90
but u might be able to push to level 11 before then
So you fall behind
and it snowballs
clever oriole
the poblem is the auto requires me a capo lvl 92 and my max capo is 70
iron portal
Usually it's actually cards. On street 30 you can roll 100 safes to get that one card you need
And maybe still not get it!
gloomy swift
by playing the game actively you progress faster then u generate cigars
because playing actively increases money gneration
but not cigar generation
So money outpaces cigars
clever oriole
exactly
gloomy swift
whether thats a design philosophy or something to be addressed is the devs decision tho
because it may very well be like this intentionally,
clever oriole
Or they low the auto lvl requirement or they increase the cigar output. But the current balance is very poor
gloomy swift
as i was saying bfore, the levels are a b it weird, right now at rank 18 the first building requires lvl 1, thats standard, the following buildings in order are 119 - 129 - 130 - 119 - 129
its like, i cant automate the buildings at 130 but i can do the ones at 119
clever oriole
For me, the auto lvl should be more consistent and easily obtained
gloomy swift
so i have to actively play to get thru 2-3 buildings worth before i can automate
we've delved away from a suggestion here and its moreso a rant, but ya, maybe either increase cigar generation for active players or work at the level requirements
clever oriole
but I repeat, this is an idle game, you should not play actively
you should not be tapping to get the benefits
From my point of view, the last building should be the only difficult to automatize, all the others previous buildings should be in auto as soon as you build the last building
lusty dove
Well everyone went through it and everyone beat it anyway. It may take longer but thats the point of idle game. If you get to activate everything you would be making too fast progress and the game is still developing so they would not be able to keep up eith the updates
Noone knows if there is another map after Miami
clever oriole
I don't know how is the balance in Miami, I'm in chicago
and the buildings are asking for lvl 9X to automatize
my team of capos are 60-70
Maybe in the past, the cigar output was higher, but after some patches, the early game is somehow broken
You cannot automatize almost any building
Well everyone went through it and everyone beat it anyway. It may take longer but thats the point of idle game. If you get to activate everything you would be making too fast progress and the game is still developing so they would not be able to keep up eith the updates
@lusty dove It would be ok and no complains if the timers were like 20 min or 1h, but the buildings have timers like 1 or 2 min. I should be clicking the screen every 2 min for 24h?
For that I'll use an emulator and an autoclicker XD
An Idle game, from my point of view, should require small investments of time in different periods of a day.
So you connect, grab the small benefits, update everything a bit and disconnect. And you slowly grow up
gloomy swift
My counter to this is the argument of "we suffered thru this so u have to as well" isnt really a valid one
just because u guys experienced something that, while not everyone, most people consider not a component of an idle game, doesnt mean newer players have to as well
if its a turn off, and drives people to stop playing the game, then ya its something to look into
but i do agree with the notion that artifical timegates in order to give them more development time is valid
clever oriole
Anyway, these are only suggestions. Developers will consider them or not depending on which type of game they want
gloomy swift
The notification in the base game for the free chest doesnt work in the event for free coins
Idk if its a bug or just not implemented so i put it here
wanton tusk
Hi @gloomy swift , thanks for reporting this issue about the missing notifications for free coins. We will look into this! π
And thanks everyone for the insightful feedback regarding building automation. We will surely look into this. With the next update (which we hope to release in the coming week), we hope to have improved the balance for many streets. Whether the changes we've made will solve all the street balancing issues will have to be seen. We will re-analyze all the data again after the update to see which streets have indeed improved the way we wanted and which streets still need improvements.
I also understand the feedback that @clever oriole gave, that it's too hard to automate buildings. We will also look into this issue with the team the coming week! π
Again, many thanks for all the feedback! Much appreciated.
limpid garden
So i want to share a thought. I see you are able to buy boosters that cannot be bought with diamonds. So as a free player or even a monthly premium player there is no option to get them with diamonds or any other way besides money. A booster at the right moment will have a huge impact on income to get higher up the leaderboard. So technically when you have players buying these boosters every week which will happen when its released this leaderboard will be filled with top dollar paid players which creates a pay2win situation. In this case being a monthly premium player would be besides the " no ads " uninteresting, since the gems you get are only interesting to use for the event which will become useless knowing that people that buy boosters have the advantages during events.
Maybe im completely wrong, but this is on my mind when i saw those boosters and just wanted to share my 2 cents about it.
dark galleon
ΠΠΎΠ³Π΄Π° ΠΈΠ³ΡΠ° Π²ΡΠΉΠ΄Π΅Ρ?
gloomy swift
confused by the order of upgrades during the event, standard procedure of upgrading them in the order u unlock first go around is fine, but 2nd time around its weird, it skips the first building (payday loan) and asks u to go to the 2nd, then the 3rd, then u go back to the 1st
then u go 4th, and skip 5th and go to 6th
the order just feels weird being "random" like that
wanton tusk
Hi @limpid garden , I understand what you mean. I think with leaderboards or PvP events, there will always be some kind of discrepancy between paying players and non-paying players (or high paying players and low paying players). I mean, one could also argue that the monthly package gives an advantage in the events, since you can skip the videos and have more diamonds to spend than those who didn't buy the monthly package.
Now, one option could be to eliminate any kind of boost or payment option for the events. This would make it most fair for everyone.
However, for those who (for example) have kids and don't have much time to play the game during the weekends, they might lose their interest in the events. As it would become a feature where those who have the most time, will take the top places in the leaderboard. So in their eyes, the event might actually become less fair.
I think what is considered "fair" is a bit tricky and probably depends on who you ask. Someone with more disposable income but less free time will probably have a different opinion than someone with less disposable income and more free time.
So to counter the issue where one group might always walk away empty handed from an event, we have the milestone rewards. The milestone rewards allow players to play the game at their own pace and not necessarily having to compete with others for their rewards.
But, having said all this, if you (or anyone else) has a suggestion on how we can create a more fair system for everyone in the events, I'm very open to hear about it π
Hi @dark galleon the official global release date for our game is April 14th
Hi @gloomy swift I know what you mean. Our events are currently set up in this way because we don't only take the order of unlocking buildings into account, but also the capos and the businesses they focus on (and specific businesses will get a boost with certain Tricks). Now, if we want to change the order of the upgrades in the second round, this is doable. But it would take a lot of time and re-tweaking and testing again :D
So do you think it's an urgent issue that needs to be fixed? Or would you say it just feels strange, but nothing game breaking? Just want to know your opinion about it.
gloomy swift
Its strange and the only negative thing about it would be someone pre-emptively upgrading their capo because they assumed it goes in order, in the end it means nothing and if its more of a hassle to change then i initally realized (which judging by your response that would be true) then its not a priority by any means no
wanton tusk
Great, thanks a lot for your quick reply! I will keep it in our backlog though, so if we have some time on our hands, we can always look at it again π
limpid garden
@wanton tusk, thanks for the response and i agree on the paid will get an advantage perspective and i understand.
Its nice the option is there for the ones that have less time have the option to still compete in the game.
But my issue is that you offer something on the market thats only available through money.
If you are a free player you still get gems on the street and you can finish atleast 70% of the milestones without spending gems, so if you save your gems you will eventually be at the same level as a premium player. On average if you smartly spend 700 gems on an event you will get all the milestones and finish top 50 which i did twice (vegas event).
So the balance between a free and premium player is still realistically close, but with adding boosters to only the marketplace you put another group with money pockets far from the free and premium group. I think the only correct way to resolve this and keep the market like this is to add the boosters ingame through achievements or make it possible to buy with gems.
wanton tusk
Ah I see, that's a fair point. That's certainly something I can discuss with the team in the upcoming week. Thanks a lot for your suggestion @limpid garden ! π
limpid garden
@wanton tusk your welcome and thanks for listening.
strong karma
just finish all the mile stones each event and save the coins 700 that you win and use them on the next event and keep repeating this and youll complete all milestones every event
strong karma
i meant diamonds yes
earnest kiln
Is anyone having issues still with the game
timber violet
@earnest kiln what kind of issues
earnest kiln
Game is still crashing
timber violet
Yea done that a couple of times, not loads just every now and then
earnest kiln
I canβt progress
timber violet
Have you tried force closing or clearing the cache
earnest kiln
No
timber violet
Clearing the cache should sort it out
earnest kiln
How do I do that
timber violet
@earnest kiln sorry for the late reply. Go into the 'app info' then go 'storage' it would appear bottom right
earnest kiln
Canβt do that itβs not an option. Game still crashes and I donβt know why
tawny heart
Anyone else ads saying not available
gloomy swift
A lot of the conversation tied around this event is the wheel spins and how awful it feels to spin.
From the high amount of landings on the small "gold bar" section, to the poor payout of said box.
The chips earned from the wheel scale up with the players generated chips per second (as evident by how it increases when u upgrade a building or capo of value) however gold bars don't do this, theyre static, so they are valuable early on and lose value until they get an immense upscale with the new wheel tier.
A solution to this would be scaling up gold bars just like the chips do, so people can actually scale their capos up accordingly when landing on gold bars.
wanton tusk
Hi @gloomy swift , Gold Bars do scale up when you upgrade the wheel. Do you mean even upgrading your wheel doesn't scale up the Gold Bars? Because that might be an issue.
gloomy swift
What i mean was (sorry if my inital statement was unclear) is that upgrading capos and buildings doesnt scale up the rewards of gold bars like it does chips
say i get 4mm chips on the wheel, but upgrade my highest capo 5 levels, all ofa sudden ill get 5mm chips on the wheel, or whatnot
but the gold bars dont scale up
so when you first upgrade the wheel, landing on gold bars is awesome because u get a lot of upgrades from it
but towards the end of a wheels level, gold bars become meaniingless
whereas chips are always valuable since they scale up the whole way
hope that was a little clearer but if not lemme know @wanton tusk
wanton tusk
Oh, I see what you mean. Sorry that I misunderstood you earlier π
It's actually intentional that the gold bars only scale up by upgrading the wheel. But I understand your point that gold bars are very valuable at the beginning of an event, but lose their value towards the end. Let me think if this can be improved somehow. Thanks for your feedback @gloomy swift !
stuck lake
How do u get cigars
prisma geyser
Hi
hearty vine
@prisma geyser This is not the #off-topic or #game-discussion channel, please stay on topic here π If you have a suggestion please send it to us here, thanks!
lofty gust
I think it would be quite cool if you put in maybe like a gang section so you can create teams to work with and compete in events together against everyone else or set milestone rewards for the team to achieve for something to gain extra rewards with like a in game chat room to connect with your team just a little idea for maybe further down the road and would keep people being active working with others to progress quicker. That's just my thoughts. If other people like the thought and would make the game a bit more interesting I'd love to hear what you think.
woven coral
Hello everyone π
I need some help. In my game I have some mail and I have been rewarded 10 blue keys and 500 gems but it wont let me accept them as I need the latest update. Does anyone know when the next one will be or how I can accept this wonderful gift x
gloomy swift
As of right now, the mail is only claimable by IOS users (apple) as the update is only out on apple, android users will have to wait for an appropriate update or fix to the mail system, as it isn't intended to be visible for android users right now.
@woven coral
We've been talking about it for a bit in the bugs channel, so just give it some time and we'll be good
woven coral
Thank you so much for getting back to me and so quickly too π panicked that I will miss that gift x
Thank you again x
gloomy swift
Glad to help
karmic berry
Does the iOS version link to fb?
gloomy swift
Someone with IOS would need to answer that, im android so i cant help sorry ^^
I recommend asking in #help or general,
Some of the capo specific skills aren't present on any of the legendary capos, "Johnny Torrito" the purple grade capo has an ability "heals all friendlies when this capo dies" that none of the legendary capos have, maybe giving the legendary capos a better mix all around of the abilites would be a good idea, or if more are added, ensure they patch up the less represented abiltiies.
dreamy gulch
Am I the only one but i feel the more i advance in the game the slower the progress becomes?
coarse grove
Yes, like every idle games :p.
dreamy gulch
But also the cigar fights are becoming too difficult because its really hard to get legendaries
I need 2 purple star caposπ
coarse grove
You will have what you need :p and even more, just be patient, and be sure to play the weekly event
lucid radish
Thanks for the add
green berry
@gloomy swift just to let you know (ik this was yesterday dk if u know) but on my android (Samsung s6) it works perfectly fine for me.
gloomy swift
Were you referring to claiming the reward @green berry ?
velvet sundial
Yes
green berry
Yep
gloomy swift
Yeah that was fixed eariler today
north adder
Can we get cigar packages say Β£9.99 for 3-5 days worth of cigars in with 200 diamond something like this please
And some kind of cloud to save your progress just incase access was lost as a back up thank you
gloomy swift
atleast on android u cna link to a facebook account
i assume thats one way of saving progress
north adder
And lol maybe a gifting option if clan vs clan happens
Yea but I've played games before where the Facebook option wasnt that reliable
gloomy swift
fair enough,
as for social features thatll come either with or after the full release, i assume the beta period is to make sure the game is stable and functional to be released fully
north adder
Yea just suggesting I bet all this has been thought of anyways
What about a 5 v 5 each players gets to choose 1 toon each and can pick the same character?
Could my time be corrected because my new day starts 1 hour late now I'm in the UK
What about a android vs apple event maybe once a month everyone on andriod vs everyone on apple combining all players from each teams score lol
New criminal organisations like prison gangs can maybe do something with jailbreak to add an extra element and American gangs like bloods/crips Russian mafia Albanian mafia English firms
gloomy swift
Those would bea bit difficult, if you allow multiple of the same capo some strategy's become very powerful, so different levels of balancing would be needed, apple vs android would be horribly imbalanced due to more android users than apple users, the idea of multiple people contributing to a fight is cool but it would require a lot of polish to work out
as for expanding the capo base, im sure thatll come in the future
as for expanding the capo base, im sure thatll come in the future
north adder
All still possible to do though lol
I dont think I know of a game that does android vs apple lol could be a good marketing strategy considering how apple fanboys hate android phones and vice versa
And yea this is all for the future I know just suggestions lol apart from maybe the cigar package that could be done pretty quickly
And yea this is all for the future I know just suggestions lol apart from maybe the cigar package that could be done pretty quickly
gloomy swift
the daily offers have some cigar packs in them, if thatsw what you're looking for
north adder
They dont offer enough IMO 4 hours 8 hours 12 hours ain't enough when I got 100s of levels to do and 10+ to upgrade
gloomy swift
The argument against it is that this is an idle game,its not designed with the intention of being able to speed from 0-100 by spending gems and using real money,
I realize that the shop doesnt include everything, but i believe its by choice as to not give players the ability to just instnatly get to the end of the game by spending money
north adder
Lol then why can you buy to speed through the normal and event then?
π π π π
gloomy swift
the offers (being the best bang for hte buck) are limited since you can't buy them constantly. buying cash doesnt let you automate buildings consistently because you cant automate buildings with low level capos
cigars allow capo automation to be unlocked way eariler than it should naturally be, due to the pacing of how cigars are gained, money doesnt have that implication
I should add that this isnt the 100% bonafide reason cigars aren't purchaseable in the shop, this is my reasoning as to why they shouldnt be
Or if they are, to a small extent
north adder
You can speed through it all diamonds allow this I would just prefer a cigar deal then a keys or gambling chips or speed ups or buying currency
You can get 164 hours a week of cigar speed ups I would just like to but it in one deal
Buy*
Ain't it fair for the developers to make as much money for there work as possible after all it is a business 1 say Β£9.99 and Β£19.99 cigar deal a week wouldn't be catastrophic
@gloomy swift good debate bro
coarse grove
@fathom patio i'ts off the chart :). Last warning
vocal gull
Hi dev's i have a bug to report
Thats 8-65 and 8-66
Thats 8-67 boss fight
Enemy power went down from 1.7 mil to 1 mil.
Think the jump to 1.7 mil was a bug, enemies right before that was more like 1 mil each
Or maybe not level 8-68 is back to 1.8 mil
gloomy swift
#bug please, but yeah theres a few missions that seem to be out of line with the general scaling
vocal gull
I honestly thought it was the natural scaling until i fought the bosses
iron portal
Could you make it so auto-selecting capos for legendary trade-ups picks a multiple of 10 for the rare blue capos. it picking 109/100 and having to deselect 9 is a tiny bit annoying. just a little QOL suggestion :)
north adder
More packages please
gloomy swift
what kind of packages are you referring to?
north adder
Atm keys cigars diamonds
Is it possible to get more then just the daily weekly and monthly that would be nice
gloomy swift
Theres the general purchase for diamonds, that can be used to buy keys / cigar insta fights,
But the packages will keep re-appearing on their reset timer, so daily or weekly
are u looking for just more cigars, or more of the "value deal" sort of systems
north adder
Yea more value deals there fun to buy
vocal gull
wish there was more ways to get cigars lol, it's 60 m per level at this point
north adder
60m @vocal gull lmfao you joking right?
gloomy swift
Dans very far into the game, so i think those numbers are real
north adder
There needs to be a cigar deal lol where it's the main bit of the value deal lol
gloomy swift
I think if the problem of cigar generation is to be fixed it needs to be something all players can achieve
north adder
Yes I like that @gloomy swift
gloomy swift
yes a cigar deal is good for those who have the money to spend, but getting them outside of that is something other f2p players are looking for
Right now the primary focus with the game is getting it ready for full release in april
which means no bugs and it can ahndle a larger amount of players
north adder
Yea but the f2p are gonna be way behind no matter what though bro right?
gloomy swift
The gap between people who have the money to spend versus those who don't cant be overly large, people are less likely to play a game if people with extra money have a wildly insane advantage over them,
atleast thats what ive seen develop with other games
and yes right now since there is no direct "pvp" or social interaction that isnt a problem, but in the future it might be
but i do agree with the notion of changing the cigar generation rate, whatever way works best for that
north adder
Lack of legendary and diamonds I know they will get them over time but if the game is not PvP then surely cigar deal is ok and I do get your point @gloomy swift bro but its gotta be fair for people who have spent as well
@gloomy swift β€οΈ
Lol I dont know how to do the big heart π π π
gloomy swift
ya, since the games still in beta i cant say for certain expanding the cash shop is their highest priority, but i do believe the more variety there is the better
its just a matter of how high on the priority list it is
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north adder
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gloomy swift
veering away from #suggestions with this tho, gonna move to general if we keep making hearts
gloomy swift
Right now as the discords small its not an issue, but if things go well on release and the influx of players is as large as everyone hopes, things will require a bit more structure to keep everyone sane
north adder
The cigar generation rate changing sounds awesome I really like that one
gloomy swift
because yeah, most people who progress beyond stage 15, begin to see a decline in the amount of buildings they can automate
north adder
I'd settle for that if it could be made fair
gloomy swift
and by decline i mean baisically only the first building can be automated
So either cigar reductions or level requirement reductions for buildings
would be the two approaches i'd consider looking at
north adder
Yea I'm like only automating 2 out of the lot lol
gloomy swift
ya no for me automating the 2nd building costs 160 / my highest is 129
so as soon as i hit a level wherethe first building is one of the 4 capos i dont have, i basically screech to a halt
north adder
Lol yea it's only 1 atm for me actually was only 2 the street before
Dam they need to do a gifting option I'd help you if I could bro
129 is high though
My highest is 150 I think
Tomorrow will be 2 weeks I think playing
north adder
Loooool Dan you Don
vocal gull
all the buildings in my street right now takes lv 410 + to automate O_O
north adder
That's savage
vocal gull
the game is a balance of chapos, chapo levels, cigars,
gloomy swift
atleast the first building always takes level 1
vocal gull
early on i think it's essentially collecting chapoz and they've made adding stars easier.
now im hitting cigar as hard cap.
my output is ugh i think 110k/min
north adder
10 hours for 60m?
vocal gull
but there's also aspect of fight power because eventually you only fight for new buildings, you can never afford anything, the money curve is too sharp
north adder
Lol my math is probably way of lol
gloomy swift
i mean what thats a little over an hour to upgrade your capo, in my case its 457/min and 45k to upgrade, which is 90ish minutes per upgrade i think
so atleast the scaling is consistent
north adder
Mine is near 1k a minute
vocal gull
even if my first building is my lv 380 chapo's specialty building, there's no more extra upgrade bonus after lv 2000 and it'd take like several weeks of automating to buy a new building
gloomy swift
I wasnt sure if that was event specific, but i guess atleast u can confirm for me it isnt
vocal gull
so after rank 40 or so, it's all about fighting
gloomy swift
i noticed during the event that at 2000 there wasnt a multiplier anymore
vocal gull
and yall gotta get self-destruct chapos, it's teh strongest fighting ability
gloomy swift
Yeah martyrs are very strong in everything but jailbreak imo,
vocal gull
ya after lv 2000, it's just linear scaling, no more extra x2 or x100 etc
gloomy swift
i think they do fine if u use them as single lead bombers but jailbreaks easy enough its not needd
north adder
Yea they need to balance the cigars because its effecting from the top ie @vocal gull down to the bottom ie me and @gloomy swift
gloomy swift
I brought up eariler in suggestions that certain abilities aren't present on the legendary capos
vocal gull
oh self destruct doesn't do anything in jailbreak
but it's really strong in cigar fights or fight for buildings.
gloomy swift
i think some of them are very strong but just not achieveable with the current listing of capos
north adder
I like the attack the player with the highest fight power or hp ability
gloomy swift
3 or 4 of the purple tiers have the healer version of the on death effect, which in theory sounds very strong
its just purple capos are capped at 100 so it makes them unviable
vocal gull
not many chapo's ability allow you to win fight you will usually lose, a lot of them are like "win even harder" type of things.
yeah there's no legendary with death heal thingy
cuz that'd be the new strongest
gloomy swift
i threw in a suggestion to shuffle / add more to round out the missing ones
but ya, some abilities definitely have more value over others due to how long the heals take to cast
north adder
Yea make a new criminal organisation with the death heal
vocal gull
i can probably beat enemy team that's 1.8 mil to 2 mil in fight power with my team with 2 self destruct at almost 1.5 mil fight power
gloomy swift
of the 3 capos i dont have, the martyrs are all hidden there
north adder
Dan can you post your toons bro
vocal gull
vocal gull
i kinda regret investing in healer girl
may reset her later
the heal doesnt ever happen
north adder
And @gloomy swift you think a new mafia with the heal ability or just replace a current toons special
vocal gull
literally if you just look at the fight power vs hp for a given capo
rarely will it ever last 6 rounds
either you kill em too fast or you die too fast
gloomy swift
^^, thats why i was suggesting some ability changes in the future, (obviously once the core is polished and ready for launch)
north adder
Nice @vocal gull
vocal gull
but in jailbreak you have way more surviviability so it's god tier in jailbreak
gloomy swift
i think new capos, or maybe a way to upgrade purples beyond 5stars, since 3 of the purple capos have the ability, just none of the legendaries
north adder
Yea that's a top suggestion
vocal gull
you used to be able to get the purple to lv 350 i've seen it
gloomy swift
some effects being strong in gamemode A whereas others in gamemode B
vocal gull
but i wasnt playing at the time
gloomy swift
so im fine with the tuning assuming thats the goal they have
but to supplmenet that i do think more of each role (heal support and dmg) are neeeded
so u have more options
north adder
The game does need tweaking with a few things but I think it's by far the best idle game and maybe if it becomes clan and PvP then cross over game
gloomy swift
say a dmging skill that excells in regular fightss (martyr) and one that excells in jailbreak
and the same for healing and support etc
so it incentives u to manage more than just 5 capos
ya its got a lot of polish for a beta, it just needs a little bit of love to balance and then add more features
vocal gull
i just realized today that the yellow skills are insane later on
gloomy swift
if any element of pvp or clans etc comes into play that will most likely be handled,
north adder
Yellows it is aha I been doing reds
gloomy swift
right now its not a priority to fix the pre-overhaul capo levels
since theres no direct competition outside of events, where everyones on a more event field
north adder
But wont the purples that high provide a clear advantage on automating
vocal gull
the enemy capo had lv 8 of the ability that boosts its own fight power at the beginning of the fight ... the base fight power of the chapo was like 350k and the ability adds 380k
that's like doubling fight power and no way to deny it
gloomy swift
my highesst support capo has 19k and gains 7k from ability
so ya it scaling that high seems unintentional, unless other abilities also scale that steeply
north adder
I've not used a support yet ..... I'm a noob
vocal gull
like all the ability scale from a %% of your chapo's current fight power... and every increase in level of ability that %% goes up.
at rank 400 ish everything is nutssss
denying abilities in fight is crucial
north adder
@vocal gull you should make a guide bro
north adder
Dropping this knowledge is on point thank you lol
vocal gull
im just here to provide feedback for late game tunin as needed
legit idk if there's a city after LA. i may be at the end of it
north adder
@gloomy swift so you using yellows bro I didn't even think of that I thought they was probably trash lol
@vocal gull how long you been grinding
vocal gull
i think i started playing in mid to late Jan
north adder
Quick progress or normal?
gloomy swift
my team right now is merely the capos ive been able to purple star.
since i dont have a full suite of capos its just whatever ones the game lets me upgrade to purple
its just the first 5 i managed to get purple., ill focus on a proper team once i have the capos to do it
anyways we're offtopic from #suggestions here,
north adder
If you had all what line up would you choose @gloomy swift and @vocal gull what line up do you use
gloomy swift
i think any general discussoin we should move elsewhere
north adder
Ok over to general
trim shore
Let us purchase cigars with diamonds since this will be really helpful for players in need like me Iβm currently stuck where I canβt upgrade any capo to made my businesses automated so adding this would really be appropriated
coarse grove
You will have a great income of cigars soon with cigar fight
north adder
Instant fight is what you can buy cigars but its does start to get a bit heavy on the pocket
clever oriole
add how much Money / Second will increase the building upgrade, to better understand which building is most valuable to update
worldly jacinth
Hi any tips on anything
coarse grove
@worldly jacinth hi ! First tip will be to use correct chan :p go to #help or #game-discussion, and give us more dΓ©tails, if it's tips for event , or game in general :)
worldly jacinth
Well for events you av no change of top rewards ever
So what's the point in putting an event on if you don't have a chance to get them ??
timber violet
@worldly jacinth every one has a chance of getting them, once you get used to the game you'll be getting them.
worldly jacinth
Really
timber violet
Yea I couldn't even do 5milestones in the event when I first played. Now I'm close to being 1st in event and only have 4 milestones to go.
clever oriole
Yeah, the more gems you spend the closer you will be to finish the event, easy xD
timber violet
@clever oriole only spent 300 gems, you get plenty of free spins π
valid fable
@everyone hello just started playing
coarse grove
@valid fable hello ! You will be at a better place in #game-discussion :)!
pale wave
Heya
gloomy swift
Hey Macky, use #game-discussion if u just wanna chat with everyone π
rare geyser
Hello
coarse grove
Hello @rare geyser, use #game-discussion if you just wanna chat with everyone 
rare geyser
OK
lethal salmon
Hello guys where u all from
coarse grove
Hello @lethal salmon, use #game-discussion if you just wanna chat with everyone
limpid ibex
This game needs more quest not just the same quest over and over but I like the game
trim shore
Should add milestones not just for the events
coarse grove
Ill pass those 2 suggestions to the team
@trim shore but dont you think actual missions works like event milestones ?
dire yarrow
Cant update the game
green berry
hi everybodyππ
gloomy swift
Hey brash, pleass use #game-discussion if ur looking to talk π
We try to keep the suggestions chat clean so its easier to see what people are suggesting for the game
green berry
hi zath i will thankyou
sullen gazelle
ποΈ
gloomy swift
Suggestion: Settings to lower game quality (maybe disable some animations, such as money explosion when clicking buildings or idle traffic / capo interactions, to reduce strain on mobile devices)
north adder
Can we have a roulette and slots machine in the normal part of the game that plays for diamonds and in the even can the toon level to maybe 200 and prize level to maybe 30 and roulette and slots machine to maybe 300 level be raised please π
So there's more to do when max levels reached
coarse grove
OK i note that and say it to the team, thanks for the suggestions
north adder
Thanks
pale wave
Donβt know if itβs because Iβm too new but maybe having mafia clubs you can join and an in game chat feature but like I said maybe itβs already there I just havenβt got high enough yet
coarse grove
@pale wave thanks for your suggestion, it's not about how far you are, this content is not implanted in the game yet. But there will be dΓ©finitively social Features :)
pale wave
@coarse grove awesome good to know thanks π
last osprey
Make the jailbreak longer
north adder
What level you on @last osprey
north adder
What's completion level what's it stop at bro @last osprey
And good job on beating it
coarse grove
@last osprey don't worry you will soon be stuck in it too π
north adder
Raise the free tokens or lower the time to get then maybe 20 tokens every hour
Could help alot
coarse grove
If they do that, they will lower the prizes :p
north adder
Give the option to choose what event you want to play then maybe like high roller and low roller
ionic pilot
I hope when the game comes out, there are balance events for those who spend time plowing the game, if all the events use cash to race, I think a large number of players will be hard to long-term commitment. With the game, I know that if paid, the publisher will maintain and develop further, but so that those who spend time are not too inferior to other payers in the event and they can experience the game play more,Is that a good too?. It may be an idle game, but it can also be a passionate society for game lovers.
clever oriole
Any way to make the events less diamond spending dependant? I think you should be able to reach the end milestone if you play enough and update buildings and managers with a good strategy
But without spending diamonds is totally impossible, there are may walls
I think diamonds and money should be not allowed into the events, as they convert the events in a Pay 2 Win fest
coarse grove
It's normal they need to gain some money you dont think ?
Milestones rewards, are worth 400 diamonds + 10 national chests + 10 mysterious chest + 2 legendary.
So 400 diamonds + at least 6 legendary capos, with exchange.
It would be non sense to have all this every week, without using anything (real money, or just diamonds).
And I don't even count the ranking rewards.
clever oriole
Yes, I know they need to win some money, but League of Legends earn a lot of money, and World of warcraft too, and they are not paid 2 win games, there is a difference.
I'm paying 5β¬ month for the subscription for 50 gems and no ads, I think this should be enough. I should pay also to be able to have some chance of trying to finish an event or competing in the top positions
From my point of view, the top players of the event shouldn't be the top spenders right? @coarse grove
And I don't care if you want to pay for gems to obtain a lot of legendary capos earlier than others in the main campaign
What I'm saying is that you should separate all multiplayer, social and pvp features from the payments, to not create a p2w game
I know lately all mobile games follow these tendencies, but I was having hope in these developers...
The events should be free of all gems or money spending. Only ads should be available
So, in addition of giving 10 coins each 2h, give 5 coins per ad each 30 min for example, this way developers will still earn money, all players have equal possibilities
I know developers love whales who spend thousands of dollars to be Rank 1, but in the end this destroys de game and gives no future to the game.
coarse grove
Wow isn't f2p, it's based on a monthly subscription.
And LoL is not a mobile game you can't compare Γ game with 80millions monthly players, and mobile game who have between 1000 to 100 000
gloomy swift
As someone who plays way too much WoW, definitely can't compare these in the same light, but i do agree with some of the sentiments you presented @clever oriole just like others have said the same.
Its clear a lot of people aren't pleased with the requirement of investing gems in order to achieve the highest tier of rewards in the event, and there's a few things that can be done to remedy this, but they all come with a cost one way or another.
The rewards given from the highest tiers are very powerful, if players could easily collect the entire slew of rewards every week for free people would skyrocket in progression and the devs wouldn't be able to keep up with producing enough content to keep players interested. However if the rewards, like they are now, become too expensive an investment to earn (which if you do the math, you still spend less gems on the event to earn the same rewards you would by spending gems in the base game) then it drives players away from the event and the game as a whole.
Right now, in my opinion and mine alone, (This isnt something i've conversed with the devs about yet, atleast not until we get some ideas moving) some solutions would be to make the event easier, but tune down the rewards so as to not give players the insane power spike i mentioned above, which comes at the cost of making the event less satisfying to do,
by "reworking" the event to promote more strategy as opposed to lucky wheel spins and spending money on gems also works, but thats difficult to implement because theres not a lot of skill you can really throw into an idle game before it turns into an active game.
Obviously people have their own ideas., and since we're in #suggestions i'd love to see what people have to suggest regarding how to change up the events to make it feel better for players, because I myself don't find the current iteration of the events to be that great, but having done the math on the gems and rewards itself, i realize that in its current state its technically "balanced" disregarding the wheel spinning itself wwhich is another problem in its own right
clever oriole
If I'm sincere, I don't care about the rewards of the event, I play the event for the pvp component, not the milestones. And if the guy who paid the most can be at the top, then it makes no sense the pvp component. For the milestones and pve, you have the main campaing, let the events be free of paidments please.
coarse grove
All freemium are based on having an avantage if you pay, except some computer games, as LoL for example, but it's not really same model.
clever oriole
Yes, I understand
coarse grove
Who would pay if it dont give an advantage ?
clever oriole
that is why I propose just to limit the payments to the maincampaing
coarse grove
It was always that, you spend hours playing, or pay, to get ~same reward
clever oriole
to progress further
and get better capos
early
But for the events, isolate this part of the game from payments
I'm paying the subscription myself, so I completely understand
Because I love this game. But for the pvp part, you don't have to allow pay 2 win
because then is not pvp is wallet vs wallet
coarse grove
I think they get most of payement from event and monthly subscription. People always spend money when they are against other People, not against ia :p
clever oriole
Then ok, if you want to have a pay 2 win game is fine for me, these are only my suggestions to make a better and a fair game. I'll just not renew my subscription and that's all. π
coarse grove
I'll pass this to the team don't worry, but it's a big ask, I'm not sure they can afford this luxury of release all events for free ^^
ionic pilot
The event starts all the same, but the rewards are always for those who pay the most. Can low-budget people follow such events to earn rewards? Hopefully there will be a fair deal for players who spend a lot of time on the game, watching ads that can compete with other pay players.π
gloomy swift
I've already outlined my views on the event rewards, I don't personally think its healthy for the games longevity to give out all of the event rewards every week for free
clever oriole
Setup a "battle pass" better rewards for subscribers
Tap titans 2 has just implemented it, and other games too
It makes the competition in the event fair, because spending only gives much better rewards in the milestones
And developers can earn lot of money
zinc sparrow
Please no battle pass lol