Since this is a simulation and we have to eat and get cold...

[stone slate]

Then why can't we have using the toilet like we do the shower and dry off and the food we eat has to go somewhere, and sleep? Why bother with the well rested bonus if there's no negative to make you sleep?

And then, like all the others are in the settings, they can be toggable so if you don't want to play with it you don't have too.

[weak isle]

I don't really think there is a need for it? IMO bathrooms already have the (conceptual) utility of being a place you could ambush someone without being seen by cameras.

[stone slate]

There's no need for the eating either, but it would just make it even more immersive. You could just toggle it off if you wanted, like the eating, showering, and cold buffs.

[unkempt osprey]

The fact that there’s no real need for eating or drinking is a good reason to question their purpose or need to be in the game. I realize the game is early access and eating and drinking might change but if we’re just creating Sims needs timers for no sake other than to have them, it might be a good area to cut to focus more on detective functions.

[sharp totem]

I don't want to speak for the devs, but I'm pretty sure as of now they're just there for the sake of showing what's possible... Eating and drinking seems to be in an early beta state anyways, as based on the items ingame, cooking should be possible at some point

Therefore I think that speaking about cutting that feature is a bit of an early one to talk about

[crude mango]

Needs add immersion, "sims" games are not the only ones that have them, it's a staple of the survival genre, removing them will make the game more boring.

That said, I'm not sure the bathroom need is that important to include it, but it could add potential for some funny situations - imagine you're snooping around someone's house, then realise you really need to take a shit, and while you're on their toilet the person comes home from work lol

[tawny creek]

I feel like current hunger/thirst works reasonably well. You don't want to go hungry/thirsty but also you don't die simply because the nearest vending machine is 30 floors down

[crude mango]

You also don't die right away from cold, but I think you can if you stay outside too long. Hunger and thirst being potentially lethal if left unchecked could mean that you have limited time to gather evidence, plus you will have to choose between bringing some snacks with you vs. bringing more tools

[tawny creek]

Pff, real detectives just raid the suspects fridge

[crude mango]

And then vomit all over their carpet

[sharp totem]

Personally, I go hungryand thirsty all the time for the vibe... Cuz I absolutely can and theres literally no reason not to do it soo

[late zenith]

It makes sense. Ignoring the urge to use the restroom could result in the player becoming dirty and smelly and needing to shower.

[ebon mulch]

omg, will we get the Poop update?

we gonna be able to poop?

we poopin up in this basement apartment?

if we dont poop do we shit our pants?

[sharp totem]

poopy update is basically confirmed now.

[dusk knoll]

Break into someones apartment
Poop on their couch
Leave

[crude mango]

Eat too much synth food -> get diarrhea -> the urgent need to poop appears at random times, if you don't get to the bathroom in time you shit your pants

[ebon mulch]

11/10 game

[stoic surge]

I had this exact thought after the first time I saw an Enforcer using a murder victim's bathroom lmfao. It'd be funny

[ebon mulch]

"roight, we burst into an apartment, shot the owner, shot that pesky freelance detective, shot my partner, now its time to take a toilet clogging dump and tape up the doorway... just as starch kola intended"