Tiers of Equipment | Shadows of Doubt | Page 1

lucid lion May 4, 2023, 4:05 PM

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Decided to move this here due to the subject of having some black market items.

It would be cool if some of the current equipment like handcuffs and code breakers would be high tier equipment which can be obtained in a black market as example (needing a password to access).

But then you use things like magnets to break into safes slowly or zip ties to bind someone with a shorter time frame.

Lockpicks could also be tiered as mentioned elsewhere. Paperclips and the like would be low tier while actual lockpicks would be higher tier.

Community can mention other ideas for equipment of they desire. Would love to see some ideas. ^^

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Fingerprint Scanner could start out as the old ones where you dust for prints. This could give lower quality prints and maybe give options. Could be A, C, or D. So looking at multiple prints is important. Just a thought.

Then the high tech one would give less possibilities.

tawdry osprey May 4, 2023, 4:14 PM

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Bolt Cutters - Useful for breaking into breaker boxes and phone routers but are louder and take up inventory.

Thermite Cutter - A alternative to code breakers for safes and doors only. Very loud, attracts a lot of attention and possibly cops. They WILL know you broke in.

lucid lion May 4, 2023, 4:17 PM

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tawdry osprey Bolt Cutters - Useful for breaking into breaker boxes and phone routers but are ...

I now want a loud option for everything. Like a way to scan fingerprints directly from a person immediately but it alerts them. XD

tawdry osprey May 4, 2023, 4:18 PM

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that already exists, it's called bludgeoning them.

lucid lion May 4, 2023, 4:18 PM

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I mean without knocking them down. Like slap clay on their hand and run. Haha

tawdry osprey May 4, 2023, 4:19 PM

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Actually that sounds more like a high tier option.

Print Glove - If you can get someone to shake your hand while wearing this you can get their prints.

lucid lion May 4, 2023, 4:19 PM

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Oh that's a cool idea.

tawdry osprey May 4, 2023, 4:20 PM

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of course would mean have to add in the interaction to be like 'hello - offer hand -' and the person can of course reject the hand shake

lucid lion May 4, 2023, 4:21 PM

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I guess the loud option for getting a fingerprint is literally using the current scanner to scan the hand... if you can. I never tried.

tawdry osprey May 4, 2023, 4:22 PM

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lucid lion I guess the loud option for getting a fingerprint is literally using the current...

you can, they get hostile real quick

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Motion Camera - A deployable camera you can hide in places that takes pictures when it detects someone in front of it. Warning: Does make a sound so keep it further away from where you expect someone to walk by.

lucid lion May 4, 2023, 4:22 PM

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Interesting. So for fingerprints it would be duster, scanner, and glove.

lucid lion May 4, 2023, 4:23 PM

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tawdry osprey Motion Camera - A deployable camera you can hide in places that takes pictures w...

Will be confiscated if found. Photo needs to be collected?

tawdry osprey May 4, 2023, 4:23 PM

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Photo needs to be collected

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so you have to eventually go back for the cam

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probably even finding having taken multiple photos so you might need to sort though until you find the person you need on the film

lucid lion May 4, 2023, 4:24 PM

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High Tier could be a zoom in camera of sorts so you can take photos far away?

tawdry osprey May 4, 2023, 4:24 PM

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lucid lion High Tier could be a zoom in camera of sorts so you can take photos far away?

perfect for when they add the ability to look from one window into another~

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taking pictures from across the street

lucid lion May 4, 2023, 4:25 PM

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Yeah. Having a non-hostile option could be cool.

tawdry osprey May 4, 2023, 4:25 PM

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could make it a 'high powered camera' that actually requires you to set up the tripod for it

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so it is an option you need to set up ahead of time

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learn where the person works/lives... set up the cam in the apartment across the way

lucid lion May 4, 2023, 4:25 PM

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I like these ideas. ^^

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I haven't used armor yet so I can't even say what tiers of that would be like.

tawdry osprey May 4, 2023, 4:27 PM

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Scrap Metal Plate, Police Grade, Military Grade

lucid lion May 4, 2023, 4:28 PM

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What does the current armor do?

tawdry osprey May 4, 2023, 4:28 PM

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Protect you from damage as far as I know

lucid lion May 4, 2023, 4:28 PM

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I could imagine it affects walk speed and how incognito the character is.

tawdry osprey May 4, 2023, 4:28 PM

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Military Grade should be able to more effectively block bullets but slows you down and is more conspicuous

lucid lion May 4, 2023, 4:29 PM

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After all. I would question why a guy in military armor is asking my name at the door. XD

tawdry osprey May 4, 2023, 4:29 PM

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Fake Enforcer Badge - ENFORCERS OPEN UP. Getting caught with it incurs a HEAFTY cost. Incentive to toss it into the trash or ocean when you are going to get caught by the PoPo

lucid lion May 4, 2023, 4:31 PM

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tawdry osprey Fake Enforcer Badge - ENFORCERS OPEN UP. Getting caught with it incurs a HEAFTY...

Chance for a person to realize it's fake and attempt to pull the alarm.

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Maybe based on how good a fake it is. XD

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Cereal Box Badge / Black Market Badge / Enforcer Badge

tawdry osprey May 4, 2023, 4:33 PM

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'hello?'
'Enforcers -flash badge- I need to search the place'
'O-OH... OH okay...'

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'Wait let me see that... you're not an enforcer!' -slams door and calls cops-

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'YOU'LL NEVER TAKE ME ALIVE.' -Pulls out handgun-

lucid lion May 4, 2023, 4:33 PM

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Haha.
I'm just imagining pulling out a cereal box badge and it working. XD

tawdry osprey May 4, 2023, 4:34 PM

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Do the whole Rush Hour move where you just quickly flash the badge and put it away before they can actually read it

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https://media.tenor.com/0Wtdlu6eeFIAAAAC/rush-hour-badge-flip.gif

lucid lion May 4, 2023, 4:37 PM

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I'm out of the house and can't think of any more equipment in the game already.

tawdry osprey May 4, 2023, 4:38 PM

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Stun Gun? KOs person for a short time (like 15 seconds or something, enough time to handcuff or run away) but it is instant. Requires batteries for each shot.

drowsy ledge May 4, 2023, 4:39 PM

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I like this. Feels like it wouldn't be OP because of the inventory requirements

lucid lion May 4, 2023, 4:39 PM

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It could also be loud enough to alert others.

drowsy ledge May 4, 2023, 4:40 PM

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But hopefully when an actual law system is introduced, that could be classified as assault with a deadly weapon though if you use it on an innocent

tawdry osprey May 4, 2023, 4:40 PM

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Bonus points if the stun gun could be used as a secondary way to take out cameras

drowsy ledge May 4, 2023, 4:40 PM

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This game has so much potential 😩

lucid lion May 4, 2023, 4:40 PM

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drowsy ledge But hopefully when an actual law system is introduced, that could be classified ...

A law system needs made. I got mugged and when I punched them for trying to cut me five civs attacked me. XD

drowsy ledge May 4, 2023, 4:41 PM

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I had something similar happen to me

tawdry osprey May 4, 2023, 4:41 PM

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Same

lucid lion May 4, 2023, 4:42 PM

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Any thoughts on new equipment or equipment tiers? We did a few already.

drowsy ledge May 4, 2023, 4:42 PM

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Also don't like it when an enforcer just starts blasting because you moved an inch too much into a door 😑

tawdry osprey May 4, 2023, 4:43 PM

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The game is supposed to have a 'hay get out' phase first. But right now it does feel like it skips that phase

lucid lion May 4, 2023, 4:43 PM

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drowsy ledge Also don't like it when an enforcer just starts blasting because you moved an in...

I saw an enforcer kill the second resident of the house on scene twice. XD

drowsy ledge May 4, 2023, 4:43 PM

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Not any specific equipments or items, but certain items should take up 2 inventory slots IMO. Like bolt cutters, shotgun, etc

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Anything big

tawdry osprey May 4, 2023, 4:44 PM

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Hookshot! Slide from one building to the next

lucid lion May 4, 2023, 4:44 PM

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Hmm. Not sure on that one.

tawdry osprey May 4, 2023, 4:44 PM

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(that's a little more crazy but sounds fun and totally retro future

lucid lion May 4, 2023, 4:45 PM

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Maybe make the police scanner an item with tiers?

tawdry osprey May 4, 2023, 4:45 PM

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honestly I wanted to suggest that too

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or a syncdisk

lucid lion May 4, 2023, 4:45 PM

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We talked earlier about more dynamic ways to find murder cases but the police scanner could be its own thing too.

drowsy ledge May 4, 2023, 4:46 PM

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For 500c a week, subscribe to Live Kola Police Reports

tawdry osprey May 4, 2023, 4:46 PM

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Enforcer Scanner SyncDisk
Tier One - Scanner takes a while to unscramble comms to get updates
Tier Two - Goes quicker
Tier Three- Instant reports
Tier Four - Jams Police coms so that it takes longer for THEM to get the report

lucid lion May 4, 2023, 4:47 PM

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I think you could fuse 2 and 3 so there is only 3 tiers.

tawdry osprey May 4, 2023, 4:48 PM

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Yah but it feels like this sort of thing shouldn't be upgradable at normal sync desk clinics... Black market only

lucid lion May 4, 2023, 4:48 PM

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I imagined some of these tiers would be black market only. XD

tawdry osprey May 4, 2023, 4:48 PM

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Maybe an alternate one like Wabbid said with paying a subscription~ 1 Tier for that one, subscription only.

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Less power but it works right out the box

lucid lion May 4, 2023, 4:49 PM

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Tier 1 is the subscription one, Tier 2 is the normal one, Tier 3 is black market and interferes with them and gives you time to get to the scene.

tawdry osprey May 4, 2023, 4:50 PM

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Could help balance if there was a set of 'black marget sync disks' that are illegal to have. A consequence of getting arrested or downed is that they have a chance to discover those and take them away. Black market syncs require special black market upgrades which are harder to find than regular sync upgrades

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actually the idea of going to a black market sync dealer to 'jailbreak' syncs to get more power but make them either more dangerous to you or illegal to have sounds fun.

lucid lion May 4, 2023, 4:52 PM

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That could be it's own suggestion thread too. 😄

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It's a cool idea.

tawdry osprey May 4, 2023, 5:09 PM

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Oh actually... Blood Tester. Portable device where you could get blood samples from bodies, crime seens, maybe even under victims nails if they fought back. Make it a high tier very expensive item... Perhapse one time use or require you to acquire test strips to 'load' it.

lucid lion May 4, 2023, 5:42 PM

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I think it wouldn't be too bad mechanically. Getting a blood sample from the killer would be hard. XD

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Unless you literally beat them down. Haha.

tawdry osprey May 4, 2023, 5:48 PM

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or breaking into the hospital to find people who match... going to your suspects apartment to find their medical records... ect

tawdry osprey May 4, 2023, 7:45 PM

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TAPE RECORDER - for taking whitness testimony or hiding in places to tape things for evidence

novel salmon May 4, 2023, 11:18 PM

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Tiered or upgradeable gadgets, for sure. Upgrade speed of the print scanner, toughness of ballistic armor, etc. Bloodhound trackers could have tiers where they update faster the higher tier they are and so on.

#Tiers of Equipment