torpid tide
Having everything you'd ever need neatly in the Main Hall is too convenient. Make it so you'd have to visit the Black Market to buy things like Codebreaker, a set of lockpicks and a bloodhound tracker.
Let the seller jack up the prices overtime (I'm thinking in thousands) unless you do favors for them. That way you'd have to be more mindful of how you spend those resources and the Main Hall would stop being a Walmart for burglars.
grizzled star
Definitely want fluctuating prices in the black market. Something something supply and demand. And if you see a tool you use often at a decent price, you might want to stock up and hope you get a return later down the line.
More decisions is better
winged vine
I could also see the player able to break into "evidence," a place that could be added, to get free items every day. As code breakers don't seem very legal for pedestrians to have.
grizzled star
Also generally think handcuffs should be more expensive. It's already a profit when used to arrest someone, but there's also the insane utility it brings in a lot of situations(if you're playing somewhat pacifist)
torpid tide
Handcuffs price is purely an economy question. If you think about it, you only get a bonus of 350 for detaining the suspect.
winged vine
Also generally think handcuffs should be more expensive. It's already a profit w...
It would need to be no larger then the price of money you get when arresting someone. Which us what? 250 or 350?
I'd say maybe 100-150 for handcuffs.
grizzled star
It would need to be no larger then the price of money you get when arresting som...
Don't exactly remember, but the cuffs are much cheaper than that. If it didn't allow us to get prints, other information, subdue an NPC while we rob/investigate a place, then I think I'd be ok with how it is.
grizzled star
Couldnt remember if it was 25 or 35 but that sounds about right
But yeah, too cheap IMO
torpid tide
That's a bit off topic, I wouldn't say handcuffs themselves is the problem. Maybe there should be a penalty for detaining innocent people.
wheat cargo
Get some zip tie handcuffs, pros: cheap and you can buy the supplies to get them from your local hardware store. cons, people can actually break out of them eventually.
grizzled star
Should be penalties for just about everything you're "not supposed to do". In game legally speaking
winged vine
Get some zip tie handcuffs, pros: cheap and you can buy the supplies to get them...
Handcuffs are broken out of after 2hrs so maybe less for these.
wheat cargo
30 min maybe
grizzled star
And maybe zipties dont count for arrest bonus
But I like the idea
Esp if handcuffs are priced higher
winged vine
Trying to think what else would go good in a black market.
torpid tide
Esp if handcuffs are priced higher
What if instead of prices you make it so that there's a limited supply per day for handcuffs?
winged vine
To be fair. I never carry more then two pair. One at home and one in my pocket.
torpid tide
True
torpid tide
Trying to think what else would go good in a black market.
Grenades would go there, obviously, maybe some other future spy tools.
winged vine
I could see handcuffs being a black market item and zipties being bought at the store.
Only because what cops would sell professional handcuffs to citizens. XD
torpid tide
Those aren't cops
wheat cargo
I could also see handcuffs being a item you can buy from enforcers if say you have a friend there or know a guy who is willing to give you goods from their supply for cash
torpid tide
that's the thing
winged vine
Public handcuffs are normally cheap knockoffs
Government.
You know what I mean. XD
Just saying from experience most governments wouldn't sell handcuffs to civs.
wheat cargo
Or to buy items from the Enforcer cache you need to have the proper license. Which of course you can get... for a fee
torpid tide
I guess, then again in an alternative future where the government is owned by a Coca-Cola company, I don't see why they would care about who gets to buy handcuffs
wheat cargo
So early game you have to rely and crappy equipment, but later on when you have the money to sink into it you could get access to enforcer equipment
getting off track though 😄
winged vine
Yeah. So maybe you could but a magnet that can break through safes but it takes a lot longer.
Then in the black market you get a code breaker.
It's still on track. Just expanded on.
torpid tide
I'd say different grades of equipment deserves it's own entry in the suggestion box
Imagine a codebreaker that takes from ten minutes to half an hour to actually get the password
winged vine
We often expand on new ideas in threads. Just talking about possibilities. After all, you need code words for access to the underground and you'd need ways to still use these items before you get access to the black market.
torpid tide
or a codebreaker that just fries the lock without giving you the password
winged vine
So to move stuff to the black market you need lower tier stuff. It's connected.
I think that would be a magnet.
torpid tide
Or the one that installs a backdoor on PC, giving you the access to it from your apartments
winged vine
Locks like that can often be opened with a magnet. I know too much about locks due to LPL.
torpid tide
Locks like that can often be opened with a magnet. I know too much about locks d...
I was thinking of something more flashy
Loud even
wheat cargo
Code breaker - Can break into any coded lock (doors, safes, computers0
Thermite Cutter - Can break into coded doors and Safes but of course leaves a lot of evidence, loud as hell
winged vine
I mean most extreme would be an explosive which would be loud. XD
Could be funny to see everyone rush to see what happened haha.
wheat cargo
'Enforcers? I just heard an explosion from my neighbors house'