#Mod-making competition is live!

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round forge
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Hello, hello, beavers! DamFT

Here we are with our first-ever official mod competition. We are keeping it simple; however, remember one thing: BE CREATIVE! WorkHardFT

Categories

There are three different categories in which you can compete:

  • New game content - mods that add new buildings, map objects, beaver factions, you name it.
  • Quality-of-Life - mods that improve the players' experience, add new ways of accessing and using in-game data, simplify common tasks, etc.
  • Tails and banners - this one is for you, artsy beavers!

HOW TO ENTER

Upload it and make it public on Steam Workshop by May 21st, 23:59 CEST.
Include [ModContest1] in the mod's name.
Submit this form - once per each mod you’re entering into the competition - by the same deadline - May 21st, 23:59 CEST.

Details, rules and FAQ πŸ‘‰ #πŸ”₯contest-rules
Or check it on Steam!

Feel free to use this thread to discuss the new contest.

READY? SET… WAIT! Remember to stay hydrated… GO! GO! GO! Catapult FlyingFT

gaunt badger
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aw i wish i owned the game so i could participate

jade sinew
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Can I make a mod for a mod, EG, new content for a mod faction, like Emberpelts?

gaunt badger
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i think it said the mod has to be one workshop file?

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not sure

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❓Can I include more than one object in a mod? For example, could I submit a mod that features multiple buildings or tail patterns?
Sure - as long as it's downloaded as a single mod from Steam Workshop.

dark harbor
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❓ Can I submit a mod that depends on other mods to work?

Yes, although we will focus on how unique your work is and how much it adds on its own.
BeaverDabbing

wispy estuary
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I'm not seeing any restrictions on where in the world one can live and enter the competition. That's traditionally there.

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Also, my reading of the license section is that the mod could be incorporated directly into the base game.

jade sinew
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Someone gave me a suggestion, and its a fun idea, but it's like...

Won't work with half your existing mods, or require huge rewrites to make it work with them.

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My mods that is

daring ginkgo
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I am irritated that the contest requires mods to be uploaded on steam since I don't own the game there. Why was that the decision made?

gaunt badger
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probably cause steam workshop is the official modding platform?

woven ore
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can I update an existing mod to just add the tag [ModContest1] HappyFT ?

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ib4 pulling Building Blueprint to reupload with the tag πŸ˜‚

daring ginkgo
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The map contests had them uploaded elsewhere. And I don't think it's so much official as it is convenient.

woven ore
gaunt badger
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it is in the announcement

woven ore
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should not have updated Scientific Projects and Moddable Weather until now SadFT

torn lintel
gaunt badger
torn lintel
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Aha πŸ‘

woven ore
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I do have a few ideas up my sleeves, mostly because I don't have enough time to implement them yet HappyFT

torn lintel
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And i wonder what model to add thats not to hard to maintainπŸ˜‰

Wonder what happens if 2 persons create a mod. Split the money?

gaunt badger
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prob have to decide beforehand

graceful marlin
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Is it possible to write a QOL type code mod on Mac? I’m losing my windows desktop for a month (the exact duration of the contest πŸ™ƒ) since it’s getting packed up and shipped by movers

torn lintel
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Yes should be possible to use unity editor on mac and also other modding tools (like rider)

full night
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Is a custom map considered a mod? I assume not?

gaunt badger
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mod that fits one of the three categories: New game content, Quality-of-Life, Tails & Banners.

woven ore
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hmm how about... splitting up all my TImprove mods into their own mods? technically they are all new

zealous zodiac
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I feel like having a theme for these would make it a bit easier lol
No theme is going to very hard to judge haha

torn lintel
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well the theme is like what helps the players the most πŸ˜›

gaunt badger
restive girder
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Does anyone want to build a mod to play in 3D Side By Side ?
I would love to play Timberborn on my 3D TV

jade sinew
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The thing with theme is you basically end up with everyone making a version of the same mod, and when it comes to mods, that's typically a bad thing.

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I guess it depends how broad or narrow the theme should be.

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With a map, you make the theme something like "Must use Overhangs" and "Must use 3D terrain", and you get huge variations like Antfarm vs Timberpunk

jaunty haven
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I feel like the universe is calling to me, and it's saying ᴬᡐᡖᴱᡃʳ˒

next canyon
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Can someone make a shrub pack? And a garden pack? And a decorative flower pots pack? Also would love a whimsical roof pack. Please make these either work with all factions (base game, plus mod factions) or make different ones for each faction. I want at least eight shrubs, eight garden items, and eight decorative flower pots!! Just saying!!

fringe halo
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Now is the time for someone to teach these beavers how to play Doom

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Nothing in the contest ToS against it >.>

rare leaf
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Part of the issue was that the mouse cursor and menus were not 3d-ified

torn lintel
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Notice, you now need to submit a google form for each mod uploaded #πŸ”₯contest-rules

rare leaf
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Maybe it was too much effort to add new workshop tags

dark harbor
dark harbor
restive girder
rare leaf
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I also don't have any 3d hardware, so it ends up being 1/4 of the size of my screen (because I put it side-by-side and letter-boxed to half-height so that the original ratio is maintained), but here's an example

jade sinew
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The big problem with 3D is AFAIK, they don't even make 3D screens anymore, it was a fad that has passed.

But, you still can get 3D in headsets

jaunty haven
rare leaf
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apparently newer 4k gaming monitors support 3d

dark harbor
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Important note: there were many similar questions, so we've just updated the following FAQ question with an extra bit.

❓ Can I submit a mod that depends on other mods to work or reuses previously available assets?
Yes, although we will focus on how unique your work is and how much it adds on its own.

Less important note: we forgot to do that yesterday SadFT , but there is now a Discord event set up to remind us all about the contest HappyFT : https://discord.com/events/558398674389172225/1497153682389602405

dark harbor
# wispy estuary I'm not seeing any restrictions on where in the world one can live and enter the...

Thanks for pointing that out. We're running this through the law firm that created the T&Cs for us, mostly to cover situations where we cannot send the monetary prizes (either because we're not allowed to or because regular wire transfers don't work). The issue of sending physical prizes to some territories had already been covered.

Also, my reading of the license section is that the mod could be incorporated directly into the base game.
To be clear: we do not plan to take anyone's work and incorporate that into the base game - that would require a separate license BTW. The main goal of that section is to ensure we can show the winning entries on our socials, in the winner announcement etc. without issues.

wispy estuary
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intents vs technically allowed

jade sinew
# dark harbor Thanks for pointing that out. We're running this through the law firm that creat...

The biggest issue I had when I won modder of the year was they wanted my passport for Tax reasons. The problem is I don't have one. (They're expensive and not mandatory in my country, only really needed if you want to travel)

Fortunately in this case, my digital drivers license ID number was enough of an ID, but there may be issues receiving the prize money if you can't confirm your identity to a sufficient degree for the Polish government.

Should probably include some sort of footnote about this in the T&C too.

wispy estuary
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when it comes to tax purposes, i'm a bit surprised that it's taxed as income and not "winnings". here in sweden we have a nice separate tax for things like lottery winnings (it's 0 % right now).

rare leaf
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probably because it's "skills/merit based", and not random chance

dark harbor
# wispy estuary intents vs technically allowed

I am not the lawyer but when the law firm was creating the T&Cs for us, we specifically asked them to avoid phrasing the license part in a way that would suggest we're in the "woohoo, all your content now belongs to us, let's start selling that" territory. That's not what we want, and according to them, what they proposed should only cover the intended use I mentioned - and if we were to add a mod's content to the game, we would need a different license.

jade sinew
wispy estuary
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and how much you'd be paid. you deserve more than a single lump sum for that big contributions.

jade sinew
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But I agree with the principle. I'm against the "You mod belongs to us" philosophy, its very much a Derivative Work kind of thing.

jade sinew
# wispy estuary and how much you'd be paid. you deserve more than a single lump sum for that big...

Let's just say... from my perspective... An ideal solution for if Emberpelts and LeafCoats were to be considered official content, they'd go better as a DLC addon.
Then you could give me a percentage of profits from that DLC... you know, ideal solution from my perspective.

But Im thinking more, how that would effect my development of said mod.
If its official Timberborn Content, that means Mechanisty should get a say in what is and isn't included. But also so do they take over maintaining the content, or do I keep doing it? Etc.

wispy estuary
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for sure, i too would've gone the dlc route.

dark harbor
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Added to the FAQ:

❓ If I win, will my mod be added to the base game? Will you reupload it to the Workshop from your official account?
No and no.

jade sinew
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If they take over development... why would they continue to pay me?

If they pay me and allow me to keep working on it... how much input do they get on the content?

Like I said, a very What If scenario, that would be a very long legal discussion... assuming they'd even be interested.

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I mostly just bring it up because of 2 things.
The current discussion.
And I fairly often get comments along the lines of "This stuff should be added to the game!"

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When you think about it, mods are very much a good faith thing on both sides.

wispy estuary
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yup

dark harbor
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Important note on prize payout and eligibility.

We've added a new section to T&Cs to cover the cash prizes on top of the already regulated physical goods delivery.

i. Cash prizes will be paid only to Winners located in countries to which the Organizer is able to transfer funds using standard and legally compliant payment methods. The Organizer does not use alternative or non-standard money transfer channels (such as cash transfer services or intermediaries) to deliver prizes. Payment of cash prizes may be impossible or significantly restricted in certain countries or regions (in particular due to applicable laws, financial regulations, sanctions, banking limitations, or force majeure). The Winner must provide payment details that do not expose the Organizer to liability for violating the restrictions described above. If payment of a cash prize to the Winner proves impossible or significantly difficult, the Organizer will contact the Winner to determine an alternative lawful method of prize fulfillment or, where feasible, propose an alternative prize of comparable value. If the Winner fails to provide a valid payment method or is located in a country subject to the restrictions described in this section, and does not indicate an alternative despite being contacted by the Organizer, they will not be entitled to receive the Prize.

jade sinew
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I'm British, I'm good on all that. As said earlier, the only wall I ran into was proving my identity without having a passport, which was required for Poland tax purposes.

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While they didn't send me my tax number, I probably do have one now.

zealous zodiac
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Time to brainstorm and get going zoop

fringe halo
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I'm excited to watch this all cook

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To all of you

rare leaf
woven ore
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I think it's a more of a disclaimer that, they won't use YOUR code, not that the feature won't make it to the game?

rare leaf
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Yes, but why apply the disclaimer to only the winning content?

woven ore
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well πŸ˜›

rare leaf
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<playing devil's advocate>So if there's some great content that should be in the game, it won't be selected as the winner πŸ˜›

woven ore
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galaxy brain: they won't because people will notice πŸ˜›

rare leaf
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exactly, so there's no reason to limit the disclaimer to the winner only

woven ore
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no, because of that, they only need to do it for the contest. if they extend it to every submission, we wouldn't have had spiral staircase for example

rare leaf
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(I had meant "content submitted for the competition", not all content uploaded to the Workshop, edited my message to make that more clear)

fierce hedge
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Are different mods different submissions?

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I wanna have a bunch of small mods rather than a huge one

fierce hedge
torn lintel
dark harbor
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fierce hedge
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Ah so bank to bank is also fine ig, how would I find out if I am eligible for it?

dark harbor
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I guess your bank can tell you if that works for you. πŸ™‚

rare leaf
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If you can't receive, then maybe you could donate to a charity instead.

radiant kiln
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donating to beaver conservation in poland πŸ™‚

woven ore
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if I win and they can't send me the money, maybe I can finally have the non-Steam key for Timberborn 🀣

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which means even more mods for Timberborn HappyFT

rare leaf
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That's a lot of keys

woven ore
small mango
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MOD IDEA
SCHEMATIC SYSTEM

Because i cant be assed to make it, here is an idea for someone to make for the game
a Schematic System
same as factorio that allows you to select, copy and paste along with keeping it as an exportable string to add to a website similar to factorios blueprint library
Where would this be used?
Automation
if someone makes a system such as breeding or resource management, seasonal management, doom, dance floor or otherwise any cool ideas in automation you could use it in any world you create or pass it on for a legendary title on the website that holds all the schematics.
also add it so you can flip/turn/do shadow prints

Have fun with this idea and best of luck to who ever makes this mod.

woven ore
jade sinew
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I see people have been making threads in here about the odd they're making.

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I also noticed Lapan working on a mod for the contest too.

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I haven't done anything yet πŸ˜…

dark harbor
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You better get going then, chop chop! πŸ˜›

Seriously though, we have three weeks to go. Given the time-consuming nature of mods, we expect people to drop them closer to the deadline.

HAVING SAID THAT, here's a friendly reminder for everyone not into modding - banner and tail patterns are one of the categories in the competition, and for that, no coding is needed. Just some artistic skills. πŸ–ŒοΈBeaverDabbing

jade sinew
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Yeah, I have a basic plan of what i want to do, its going to be mostly C# code. I just haven't started yet.

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Not sure what category it would go in either. Its not tails and banners, its not QoL, and being code based, I'm not sure if it's Content

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Probably Content

zealous zodiac
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Well they took a nice time to drop the announcement lol. I only had 2 days of work this week

jade sinew
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I started my Genders mod. There's a large list of things to do, from features to compatibility with my other mods, I don't think I'll get it all done in time, so I'm going to focus on features, then can come back and do compatibility later.

woven ore
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is there a rule that you can only win one prize? say, is it possible for someone to get prizes in many categories?

torn lintel
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or say first place and coloration for an other price? πŸ˜›

dark harbor
jade sinew
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wait, how do you actually enter a mod in the contest?

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Let me look at the rules again

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ah, so, just upload it, then fill out a form.

jade sinew
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Well, even though it's not finished, I've submit "Genders: A Breeding Overhaul" as a content mod for the contest

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Because it's definitely not Tails and Banners, and I don't think it's QoL either.

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so if anyone wants to playtest it and give me feedback, that would be appreciated.

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There's still stuff I need to do.

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Currently only on steam

jade sinew
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Personally, I just want a set of those carved beaver statues.

radiant kiln
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competition is already looking fun - so many different ideas πŸ’š

jade sinew
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Oh, it is there

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I should rename it on the workshop i guess

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Says it needs at least 1 screenshot too.

radiant kiln
# jade sinew Says it needs at least 1 screenshot too.

that's the point i'm struggling with most.. i want it to be the max-level tree, yet that's literally the last part i'll make for my mod πŸ™ƒ
really wanted feedback on it in time to fix some issues still, but not sure i'll manage to

jade sinew
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Yeah, I still have a lot to do.

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On the one hand the mod is functional as it is, but on the other hand... it's effectively bare minimum right now. I need to add some features to it. One of them QoL

torn lintel
radiant kiln
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maybe you are right. early feedback is valuable.. just can't replace a screenshot here in discord. i tried for my decorations and seasons..

torn lintel
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lets try i have the old image atm

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and updated πŸ˜‰

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note if you remove this without using <> then you can never add back an image again πŸ˜›

radiant kiln
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i might have messed up πŸ™‚

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first i used <> and than i remove image and now there is no more image

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well. i should have thought twice that my image was manually added there and no preview. will use preview next time and follow your notes

jade sinew
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I still need to make some screenshots

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Chad is still always a classic

woven ore
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Note to everyone: if the [ModContest1] is added to the title by Steam, not from your mod name in the manifest, when you update your mod, it would get removed and you have to add it again

digital wing
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I wanted to make a mod for the contest but I was worrying about downloading the software. Will downloading the needed browsers effect the computer I'm working on.

delicate bay
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Will any of the mods be considered for being added to the base game?

rare leaf
woven ore
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wow time flies, only more than 10 days to submit

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Not sure if I can finish my last entry in time πŸ˜…

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I may make it a bit bigger than I can chew gnaw

radiant kiln
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nice problem to ponder the 3rd (?) entry haha

torn lintel
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@dark harbor are you aware that normal users are not allowed to post images in #1496848682501410958 ?

dark harbor
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Thank you, should be fixed now.

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Discord's permission hierarchy being difficult

woven ore
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@dark harbor this thread should be pinned?

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also I think, at least for the next contest, the [ModContest1] tag requirement should be using Steam tag or something instead of title, because everytime a mod is updated, it needs to be manually renamed. I think the Form submitted should be good enough?

jade sinew
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Put it in the Manifest!

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but yes, agree, if you do it in the same format, make it a steam tag or something

woven ore
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a minor issue is that they have to push an update just so we can choose Steam tag πŸ˜›

woven ore
jade sinew
rare leaf
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The tags shouldn't be hardcoded, they should be loaded from the workshop (that would be the right way to do it)

jade sinew
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Yes

digital wing
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Will Timberborn hold another competion this summer.

jade sinew
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I imagine they could do a map contest next.

delicate bay
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There’s not enough vanilla maps

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And I hope someday they develop maps of similar intricacies to timber punk 2 etc

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And maps that promote different playstyles

woven ore
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IMO this contest has been detrimental to normal mod maintenance HappyFT I delayed all the fixes until I am done with this contest.

fierce hedge
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Is there a chance of getting an extension on the date...

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I kinda have a huge mod in works and I dont think it will be complete in time

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And it genuinely is very huge

fierce hedge
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I can show a dev/mod if they want some sort of an idea of what I am doing

radiant kiln
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i'd try and bring something stable out for them to play with - even if it is incomplete, it would show the potential and effort put into?

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my mod only is 80% complete either and will have to do

fierce hedge
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The thing is... if my mod aint complete, it wont make sense

woven ore
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well alternatively, save it for ModContest2? πŸ˜…

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I know why they do it, but no-earlier-available rule is quite brutal πŸ˜›

jade sinew
jade sinew
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Heck, I didn't complete mine, there's one more feature I want to add but I know I don't have the time.

fierce hedge
dark harbor
dark harbor
dark harbor
fierce hedge
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Also realised why its not part of the base game

jade sinew
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Yeah, I should have started my project earlier

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My mod is complete enough.

fierce hedge
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I started my project early actually... its just that the project is hella complex

fierce hedge
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Sadly, I am sure it wont be done by tomorrow

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But I will release it later and try to make it soon...

cunning grotto
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i just got the game a few days ago so not even sure what i would make yet, but is fun to watch what you all are doing πŸ™‚

jade sinew
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wait, is it a couple hours, or a day and a couple hours

cunning grotto
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unfortunately yes

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mmm one of the two haha

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either way i dont think i could learn the modding api in time

jade sinew
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a day and 2 hours.

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Yeah, a day isn't enough time to learn how to mod and make a mod.

It's probably barely enough time to properly set up the modding environment.

cursive gull
tired idol
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Wait, that'd actually be awesome. Imagine something like Cities Skylines where citizens tweet about the stuff you do

warped cloak
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It took me like a week to figure out how to put a house in da dam game

jade sinew
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It probably took me about that long too, but things were a bit harder back in U6

warped cloak
# jade sinew Seems legit.

You'r story is much more impressive tho because you didnt have years of helpful tip/messages from Bobbingabout

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almost any issues I had I was about to find someone else asking you about it haha. Big Beaver props! ✌️

jade sinew
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Thanks

jade sinew
dull mason
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Admins and devs, I have a question: Are we allowed to update our mod description and images after the deadline? As we just reached the deadline, and I'd like to add a video and improve my explanation.

Not the mod itself, just the workshop page :)

woven ore
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just curious, after the contest finishes, are we able to move threads in this channel to #1064825134348763209 ?

jade sinew
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Would be useful

round forge
jade sinew
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I forgot to check my description

dark harbor
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I am compiling the submissions into a spreadsheet as we speak, so if anyone wants to update the descriptions, now is the final chance.

Also, holy cow, the work that went into many of these mods and what they add to the game just blows my mind.

dark harbor
dark harbor
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AHEM. I would like to encourage everyone to ensure whether they have TAGGED all their creations with [ModContest1] in the title.

There were a few quality submissions that were missing that detail and I would hate to disqualify someone over that. Especially when that person used the tag correctly on their other submissions, and not tagging looks like a mistake - but could also be a deliberate choice.

jade sinew
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I'm not sure i can access my mod's steam page from here

jade sinew
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I can't log into steam on my phone because I have to get a 2 factor code from my email, and I can't log into that email to get the code because for some ungodly reason, you have to install copilot on your phone to visit the Outlook website to check your email

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So it'll have to keep the typo

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Pregnanct

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It fits the meme at least |3

dark harbor
# jade sinew So it'll have to keep the typo

A typo is okay - but we have some mods that were submitted and not tagged. Perhaps the creator wanted to remove the mod from the contest that way, or perhaps it was just a mistake.

Let's see if the people in question change that. I know at least some of them have been active on Discord.

dull mason
woven ore
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oops, just realized one of mine lost it

woven ore
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there was a small bug fix I uploaded and forgot to put the tag back

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oh my suggestion is that, next time, you can instead, use a Steam tag instead. and you do NOT have to update the game, you can upload an official mod that let you pick that tag. I have a mod that uses BuildingBlueprint tag

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so I or the official dev can release a mod that add ModContest2 Steam tag when uploading πŸ™‚, and only people who wants to join the contest needs to subscribe to that mod, and no game update is needed

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I didn't withdraw any of my mods so just assume missing tags to be mistakes please πŸ˜…

jade sinew
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Also, I just updated my mod description on stream.

It's just fixing a typo (which exists in the manifest file also), and adding a list of compatibility details.

woven ore
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#1472989429382648008 could add its own tag

jade sinew
radiant kiln
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still an issue even if they used an official mod for it: it's a different team working on competition and developing game / mod

jade sinew
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They could also just add a Mod Tag "Contest" somewhere in the list, without specifying what contest it is for, then on steam filter by date

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Which still requires a game update (but at least they only have to do it once)

radiant kiln
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Is it fine to push updates to the mods still while you judge them?

(as in me wanting to extend support to other factions and it not counting towards the contest)

zealous zodiac
woven ore
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or maybe I should push another mod? i.e. please use the new entry for your new game/save, the old one is for people who are still playing the previous save?

jade sinew
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any update?

round forge
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We are currently reviewing the submitted mods WorkHardFT

torn lintel
radiant kiln
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i did just release additions already.. hope they not count 🀞

round forge
woven ore
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but yeah I hold off updating my mods just to be sure except minor ones causing issues.

round forge
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goooood

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Anyway, that's true. We'll just make sure we've checked the submitted version.

jade sinew
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The only update I would have made (but didn't do it) would have been to add a Badfurs file.

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As it stands, my mod assigns 50/50 male/female to all undefined factions, but lone.faerie said they're pod breeders, so should get the same treatment as Ironteeth (all Ace)

warped cloak
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🫑 was a good beaver and stopped updating after the deadline because I had to get back to my job