Building Banners

[trim matrix]

Steam Workshop: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3701338675
Mod.io: https://mod.io/g/timberborn/m/building-banners#description

Building Decals came back to Timberborn V1 with a new name: Building Banners! Give your buildings some style: you can decorate any building in Timberborn with custom images. Flags, emblems, clan symbols, warning signs, memes - whatever you want! And best of all, you can put them directly on any building!

• Add unlimited banners to any building: The mod uses the same source of images as the in-game banners so you can subscribe to wonderful banners mods on Steam Workshop and use them in your game, or use your own file! Works with any PNG file (supports transparency). You can even add holes or cutouts. Uses 256 PPU (Pixels Per Unit): a 256×256px image matches a 1×1 building, but you can freely scale them.
• Rotate, scale, and position banners anywhere. You can also Flip and Tint banners.
• Copy & paste banner setups between buildings.

This is a compiled pre-release version. I created this so those who want to try it can try and give me a few screenshots so I can officially release it on Steam and mod.io 🙂 (install by unzipping it to Documents\Timberborn\Mods\ like you have downloaded from mod.io)

[dire void]

Will try and have a look when im home, otherwise itll be this weekend

[karmic karma]

Hello, could there be something wrong with the file?
My Microsoft Defender says the file is a threat.

So he specifically claims it's a virus.

[trim matrix]

strange... I will try checking. I have MS Defender on as well. please DO NOT turn it off or ignore it

[trim matrix]

what was the virus name?

here's the scan of the DLL: https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/10fa716f8290b9d1f449627a072b8ecaf5bca31f9571b3219ba6e8f0badb3c57/detection. so it's safe but you should scan your whole PC I think.

@royal geode not sure how to safely deal with this here. probably safer to have a 3rd party like you help checking out?

[royal geode]

I don't run Windows so I don't actually have an answer for you sorry

[trim matrix]

DLL is platform-agnostic I think. so as long as you can scan it on any platform?

what is the equivalent on MacOS lol?

if not then I guess virustotal scan is good enough

[trim matrix]

@tacit fulcrum you use Windows right? could you help scan that file please?

[tacit fulcrum]

I have no issue . Using BitDefender and, additional scan with MalwareBytes. Sure, no windows defender.

[trim matrix]

@karmic karma I guess it's safe then... I would recommend scanning your whole system though

[dire void]

alright, so what are the requirements to insert a sprite?

can it be just any image?

ok I figured it out, I placed the images in the wrong folder

I really like the fact you can customize the whole positioning and scale of these images

[trim matrix]

yep, you can put any PNG files, including transparent 😉

so you can design it with "holes" matching buildings as well!

btw, the mod put 128PPU (Pixels per unit), so a 128x256 image for example, will scale 1:1 to a 1x2 size building.

but you can always scale it up or down, up to you 🙂

[dire void]

ye there are a lot of options here

[trim matrix]

enjoy! and tell me if anything I could add/change to make it better please!

[dire void]

also the fact that these images can be placed seperately from the building, creates so much opportunities

e.g. fake walls

[trim matrix]

or this monstrosity 😛

[dire void]

remember that billboard mod? now everything is a billboard

[trim matrix]

what is that? 😛 I actually didn't know that 😛

oh and remember if slider doesn't work, you can use Shift + click

to enter manual value.

[dire void]

its an old mod from lapan where I it provided you with some billboards that had funny text on there

[trim matrix]

ohh I didn't know that! oh well, I guess competition is healthy for modding community, right 😛

[dire void]

I think the hardest part is to find images that are actually useful

[karmic karma]

@trim matrix Hello, I will check the system, possibly reinstall Win 11 on the PC tomorrow and see if it is possible after that.

However, I'm not entirely sure if I'll do everything tomorrow, so it may take a few days.

It really is only this file that is blocked, unfortunately I have no idea where it is located or what kind of virus it could be.

[trim matrix]

you can click on it and it will tell you the details

[dire void]

this is what I have got so far

[trim matrix]

darn those are good lol!

[trim matrix]

hmm I see this article, not sure if it's helpful but I am not security expert so... https://medium.com/@smith_brendan/trojan-script-wacatac-b-ml-when-microsoft-defender-cries-wolf-usually-6fb25816eee6

I guess you could ignore it then by whitelisting that file

[karmic karma]

Okay, so I don't misunderstand.

I can download the file without any problems?

[dire void]

thats enough for me today, the possibilities are endless.

However, similar with Hue and Turn you currently have to import these decals for every single building individually. If you want to make for example a wall, it would be nice if you can copy/paste decals from one building to another. Just like you can copy/paste settings with Hue and Turn

[trim matrix]

already working on Copy/Paste 😉

[trim matrix]

yep, should be safe, considering two others already tried 🙂

[dire void]

but other than that it works just like hue and turn, with all of its customizations

[trim matrix]

in that details window, there is an option where you could expand and choose ignore/restore or something like that

[dire void]

do you know how to make these transparent holes? would be super useful to be able to do this

[karmic karma]

Great, thanks... I'll let it finish checking first.

Speaking of Hue & Turn, have you considered moving all the settings to a separate tab that you can click on instead of having them below?

And that you would have two or three color fields per object... So that it's not uniformly colored, but the base color, flags, railings, and the like get another color field.

[trim matrix]

use any image editor you are comfortable with 🙂 I usually use Paint .NET but you can use Photoshop or Gimp or anything

[dire void]

I suppose mspaint doesnt cut it

[trim matrix]

tab is not really a good UI since right now collapsing panels are acting like one and I don't need to build a new UI element.
As for multiple colors, unfortunately not because H&T are not aware of them, it just apply wholly on the whole object.

[trim matrix]

yeah unfortunately, MS Paint does not support transparency.

Paint .NET is pretty simple, and free.

[dire void]

yeah im familiar with it, im gonna try that

[trim matrix]

idea: image/icon of beaver, cut 2 eyes as transparent holes, put them on lodge's windows 😛

[dire void]

nice nice nice

[karmic karma]

Thanks, now I know.

[dire void]

halloween themed houses

name plaques

I suppose its not possible to change the size of a decal in 3D? e.g. to make it thicker

that would allow proper texturing of surfaces

[trim matrix]

yeah I tried, unfortunately it's not easy, and a pre-built solution is $10 so no lol

man those are so cool!

whenever you are ready can I borrow them? you can also pick which one you want me to use 😄

also I am making templates for Lumberjack Flag and Gatherer Flag so you can put decal over their banners

any other building I should make custom template? (if you are playing as emberpelt you probably don't see custom template for Path right now, but there is for it and Barriers so you can quickly put it on top)

[tacit fulcrum]

❓ 😮 🤔 😕

[dire void]

use whichever screenshot you'd like

[dire void]

so far the only "buildings" I noticed that do not have a decal are the special ones like trees and crops

one thing I noticed is that there is no scrollbar in the decal menu. If you're too eager and add too many different decals, at one point you will no longer be able to see the buttons at the top

[trim matrix]

yeah I outsource that to T4UX and T4UI now 😛

[trim matrix]

yeah they are not considered buildings 😛 though you can make a building next to them and move decal over 😛

[trim matrix]

I don't get it 😛

[tacit fulcrum]

Not a single plain face on dynamite. It looks like wrapping in a box of pictures.

[trim matrix]

@dire void do you experience any performance degrade when using Decal? I have someone ask that the mod is causing lag?

[trim matrix]

Steam Workshop: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3570383146
Mod.io:https://mod.io/g/timberborn/m/building-decals

Give your buildings some style! With Building Decals, you can decorate any building in Timberborn with custom images. Flags, emblems, clan symbols, warning signs, memes - whatever you want!

• Add unlimited decals to any building: Works with any PNG file (supports transparency). You can even add holes or cutouts. Uses 128 PPU (Pixels Per Unit): a 128×128 image matches a 1×1 building, but you can freely scale decals.
• Rotate, scale, and position decals anywhere. You can also Flip and Tint decals.
• Copy & paste decal setups between buildings. Hotkeys: Ctrl+D to copy, Ctrl+Shift+D to paste (configurable in Settings → Keybindings).

[dire void]

Not that I noticed, but then again I have not used the decals in bulk yet

[trim matrix]

@dire void not sure if it will work but I wonder if you can now make nice glass windows using semi-transparent PNG? like putting alpha to be something in between 0 and 255

[dire void]

I will have to see how to get a png like that exactly. I havent used paint.net often

Ive also been thinking to explore the possibility to make a gradient transparency, but havent had much luck yet

I will try later tonight

[dire void]

im not sure how im doing it but it does kinda work

oh wait i didnt download the released version yet

[trim matrix]

that's pretty!

[dire void]

comparing with the old ones

looks a lot cleaner

[trim matrix]

you should post that building to #📷screenshots !

[dire void]

not yet, need to build something pretty first

[trim matrix]

maybe I should provide a few built-in decal like that glass window 😛

[dire void]

I think that'd be good to get people started

it takes a while to get a good decal

[dire void]

so does one of those mods add a scrollbar to the decal menu or not? currently I cannot close the window. it'll limit the amount of decals one can use

[trim matrix]

what that's crazy lol... I am pretty sure that dialog has a height limit...

sorry will add it soon

[trim matrix]

for now you can press Esc to close it 😅

[dire void]

ah okay I wasnt aware

[trim matrix]

also a "cheat" is to use the filter box to make the box smaller 😛

@dire void what do you think about "Ground Decal", i.e. pick one block of terrain and apply decal to it? 😛

[dire void]

isnt that similar to the decorative floor in emberpelts?

[trim matrix]

not sure, I don't know what it is 😄 but I probably need to make a tool so you can pick up which tile

but nvm, maybe not, because then you have a trouble of how to select that tile to edit/remove etc

[dire void]

ye sounds more trouble than useful

you can pretty much already achieve the same thing by simply placing a decal on a path

then hide the path

[trim matrix]

v7.0.2:

• Added scrollbar to the decal list.
• Added a few built-in decals. The glass panel decal is credited to @dire void

[dire void]

I am noticing some clipping issues on certain camera angles when two decals are placed on top of eachother. do you know why this happens? this even happens when there is an obvious gap between the two decals

maybe its a game limitation?

[trim matrix]

that's strange... usually in the template I give them like 0.1 distance so they don't clip with 3D. I haven't seen the 2D stickers clip with each other. did you check the position and give them like 0.1 or 0.2?

I do notice they clip with Water Renderer when you are near water

[dire void]

yes there is a difference of 0.19 between the flags and the stone wall

[trim matrix]

yeah sorry I don't know how to solve this for now then, will take a look next week

[dire void]

thats alright, we will just have to work with its limitations

[dire void]

glow in the dark walls 😂

[trim matrix]

cool, that was totally intended /s

[dire void]

yeah they sure behave different than all the other features in the game

[trim matrix]

oh! I forgot to turn that off lol

will fix it the following week, I am out for the next whole week

[trim matrix]

sorry for pinging but I am not proficient enough in Unity to solve this problem, do you have any advice for me here, @quiet stag and @icy quail

[icy quail]

no idea, check render queue of materials you are using

not related, but consider tweaking aniso level on your textures, as they are really blurry at some angles: https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.2/Documentation/Manual/Textures.html

[trim matrix]

thanks, I will check it when I am back (travelling for a week). not sure what Unity does under the hood, I am just using a SpriteRenderer and pass a Sprite made from a Texture2D to it, no material (but I guess it generates a material under the hood)

[dire void]

🦖

[trim matrix]

the beavers, they dug too deep and greedily

[dire void]

one of the beavers fell in the badwater

[viral jungle]

My decal version is 7.0.0, I'll try to use the most updated one.

@trim matrix @dire void yeahh thanks a lot

[dire void]

now you have to share screenshots of your houses in return

[trim matrix]

hmm I think BD in V1 will be compatible with #1472989429382648008 😉

as long as you share the decal file as well, of course

or maybe... a Workshop feature for Decal?

actually I think that's better! workshop entries for Decal that support Tails as well so people can just upload the file without any JSON file.

[viral jungle]

Sure, I have hundreds of images, maybe more.. and all the ones I like and want to use I'm converting to png, removing the unnecessary background.. I can give them all to you.

[viral jungle]

Hey!! I'm filling up here! Now I can really go wild 😄 @trim matrix @dire void

ohh how happy I am.. ohh how happy I am!

[trim matrix]

@icy quail just to be sure, are the devs cool with me making mods that use Workshop entries like #1472989429382648008 ? and is there any official plan so I don't step on toes here 😛 ?

[icy quail]

We didn't see any problems with that approach so far

By "official plan" are you asking about us creating built-in building blueprints?

[trim matrix]

no, workshop support for custom Decals (Tails and Banners) 🙂

[icy quail]

wait, but simple mods for tails and banners are natively supported by the game and workshop 🤔

or are you asking for decals in general

[trim matrix]

it kinda does. right now you need a JSON file though. my idea = automatically generate a JSON files.

hmm or maybe... just generate the mod and let them upload it

[icy quail]

I think you can feel free to do so. If I understand correctly, it would be workshop entries with Decal tag, but with your mod marked as dependency, as they won't work on their own

[trim matrix]

yep but like you said, it's kinda supported. I can't remember why I wanted that before. I think for consistent ID so you can share. but then with JSON file, you already have consistent ID (I think)

[trim matrix]

so yeah I simply need to make a helper if needed, really, to generate a mod-ready folder so people can upload it and that's it.

purpose = like above, if a player want to share their building blueprint with decal, they need to share their decals too.

[potent cosmos]

What I think he is asking for, is for top level Tags for Blueprints and Decals, like there are now for Mod and Map. That way, when you browse for mods, you don't also get all the blueprints that are now tagged as Mod. Right now, you select "Mod" to only list mods, and that includes uploaded blueprints, if at some point in the future there are 5000 blueprints and 400 mods, finding the true mods will be impossible.

[dire void]

how do these windows look on buildings? I am looking for some variation in the type of windows that I use

[trim matrix]

nah it's fine to me for now. would be nice to have it but right now I can set a custom tag and it would show up too

[viral jungle]

Do you want me to send you the folder with the windows I saved? So you can try some of them, we use two different versions of the game, it's better if you try it directly on your version and faction, I can zip the folder and you tell me where I can send it to you

[verbal hinge]

Cool

[dire void]

yeah the folder might be better, then I can also try them out on banners

[viral jungle]

where do I send you the folder?

I'm exaggerating, of course, I'm just trying to create something experimental @dire void

[trim matrix]

is that an outhouse 😂

[viral jungle]

An outhouse? Can you translate it into Italian for me as "latrina"? Is that a derogatory term? You're a bad man. 😛 😏
In the decal mod, you can only adjust the figures with "scale" and move them left/right, forward/backward, up/down. But for a better fit, without going crazy, there should also be stretch controls, like you can for objects, etc. Will you modify it?

[trim matrix]

'latrina' (latrine) sounds right. it's not a derogatory term in English (I think, but English is not my first language too) 😛

[viral jungle]

okay..ok..they have to poop too..or not? will you fix the mod?

[viral jungle]

@trim matrix I mean this, is it possible to add it to the decal mod?

[trim matrix]

I don't remember why I didn't put it for the Decal. oh right because it didn't make sense... Decals don't have depth. and different X/Y scale will stretch out your decal and make it look bad 😅

[viral jungle]

It's not true that it doesn't make sense, it really does! You can enlarge some images, but a piece of them is left out. If you try to adjust the object on which you placed the decal, the decal moves at the same time.
As you can see, it would be enough to slightly modify the decal, and it wouldn't be distorted... You really don't want to add it?

[trim matrix]

well I can add it, I think it just didn't make sense to me at the time

[dire void]

if you only care about the front side, you already have the ability to change the position of your decal, in order to hide the pieces sticking out

sometimes it only takes a difference of 0.01 or 0.02 to achieve the desired resulrt

[viral jungle]

@trim matrix This is what you can do with your magical Mods! Decals and Hue&Turn, I'm trying them all then I'll make a new village 🤗

[potent cosmos]

Is this mod for 1.0?

[trim matrix]

not yet

I am checking the Banner to see how they implement it for V1 so I don't have to use Sprite Renderer again

[coarse horizon]

Very nice!

[trim matrix]

Building Banners

Steam Workshop: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3701338675
Mod.io: https://mod.io/g/timberborn/m/building-banners#description

Building Decals came back to Timberborn V1 with a new name: Building Banners! Give your buildings some style: you can decorate any building in Timberborn with custom images. Flags, emblems, clan symbols, warning signs, memes - whatever you want! And best of all, you can put them directly on any building!

[trim matrix]

v10.0.1: Banners can now be copied by the game, Power Copy or Building Blueprints mods.

[lament citrus]

hello