Water Beaver Overhaul | Timberborn | Page 4

radiant heart Mar 24, 2023, 4:50 PM

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next run most probably gonna be on hard so i'm in no rush to finish this one!

shell fiber Mar 24, 2023, 4:53 PM

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you're insane 😅

radiant heart Mar 24, 2023, 4:54 PM

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need to give it a try at least, still not sure how to approach it

shell fiber Mar 24, 2023, 4:57 PM

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ah-ah !

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fixed the issue

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hotfix incommign

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nope, worked visually, but not functionnally

shell fiber Mar 24, 2023, 5:24 PM

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fix uploaded !

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can you tell me if the district centers are corect ?

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should be though

radiant heart Mar 24, 2023, 5:25 PM

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sure, give me a min

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savefile getting a bit big, computer needs sometime to process 😉

shell fiber Mar 24, 2023, 5:25 PM

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i'll reupload something a bit cleaner tomorrow, but i really wanted to fix this one right now 🙂

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thanks !

radiant heart Mar 24, 2023, 5:32 PM

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something about the mush grower, when doing slow groth, does it keep up growing during the night? kinda like the engine for the IT can still burn fuel and run even if no beaver is in there

shell fiber Mar 24, 2023, 5:33 PM

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yeah that's deliberate 🙂 mushrooms still grow at night 😉

radiant heart Mar 24, 2023, 5:34 PM

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that's why i feel like slow groth ends up giving more

shell fiber Mar 24, 2023, 5:34 PM

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but it also applies to fast mushroom grownth

heavy lodge Mar 24, 2023, 5:34 PM

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shell fiber yeah that's deliberate 🙂 mushrooms still grow at night 😉

Well, it suppose to grow faster at night 😮

radiant heart Mar 24, 2023, 5:34 PM

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fast grow will start a new one even if no one is in there?

shell fiber Mar 24, 2023, 5:35 PM

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i need to go to bed though, have fun 🙂

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yeah

radiant heart Mar 24, 2023, 5:35 PM

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Broke it btw

shell fiber Mar 24, 2023, 5:35 PM

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if there is enought stock

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what ?

radiant heart Mar 24, 2023, 5:35 PM

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now there is only the 4 way that needs science

shell fiber Mar 24, 2023, 5:35 PM

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how 😲

radiant heart Mar 24, 2023, 5:35 PM

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and fastener

shell fiber Mar 24, 2023, 5:35 PM

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oh fuck

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shit

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okay

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okay, uploading the fix to fix the fix

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sleep time

radiant heart Mar 24, 2023, 5:47 PM

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GN

radiant heart Mar 24, 2023, 9:12 PM

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just an idea, balancewise, since both juices go downward for amounts, maybe 10carrotJ + 10 berriJ could be more like 15 booze then 10.

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and kinda suprised, booze is normally more made out of wheat and potatoes, never heard of carrot alcohool 🤣

radiant heart Mar 25, 2023, 12:23 AM

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wow, placing that medium mine is a doozy, how about making curly stairs a depedency so it can at least be a rectangle?

It's really hard to get how to place it, sadly ended up one square off 😕

And why the iron60-coal40 ? you'll alaways need more coal then iron, would be better on a 100% coal IMO, that one would only ensure an overflow of iron

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Unless Smelter MKII is on it's way and it requires more iron ? 🤔

shell fiber Mar 25, 2023, 12:42 AM

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radiant heart wow, placing that medium mine is a doozy, how about making curly stairs a depede...

I wouldn't want things to be too easy 😉
It's a bit wacky but you'll get it right 😊

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And yes both for booze and iron I want to have a more efficient building maybe

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Maybe 100% coal in a bit to much, the point is to have one mine rendering the primitive ones largely obsolete (except for saltpetre)

radiant heart Mar 25, 2023, 12:49 AM

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am I too far or there is something i'm missing?

shell fiber Mar 25, 2023, 12:49 AM

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How about 20% iron 80% coal ?

radiant heart Mar 25, 2023, 12:50 AM

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shell fiber Mar 25, 2023, 12:50 AM

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Click on it see where the line reaches

radiant heart Mar 25, 2023, 12:51 AM

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shit, i forgot door is downthere

shell fiber Mar 25, 2023, 12:51 AM

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Ahah

radiant heart Mar 25, 2023, 12:51 AM

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exactly at my last reachable square

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well, that' gonna be a deep lido 🤣

shell fiber Mar 25, 2023, 12:52 AM

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Not even close, you need to reach the bottom of the mine I think

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Why do you keep tempting fate like this 😅

radiant heart Mar 25, 2023, 12:53 AM

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i don't wanna "try stuff" right in the middle of my land

shell fiber Mar 25, 2023, 12:53 AM

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Ahah

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Fair enough

radiant heart Mar 25, 2023, 12:54 AM

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it's ok, gonna use that one to expand my maple sone, logs are running short, making a big expansion!

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and lidos were a bit far for the ppl that live in that corner

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starting the carrots/berry farm to make my booze!

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almost done with the lvling of the ground

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about to run out of scrap so not long left on that run, primitive smelting is just dumb at that point.
Smelting 15/50h,
Making iron needs 5/2h, that's 9 primitive smelters just to keep the blocks running, and that faction is scrap intensive...

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Lazy ass suggestion, could the "artsy lodge" have a "just do it" option that it will empty the copy lodge and make everything it can fancy? got a few leftovers in there and it's just annoying in the BP menu to have that many

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Rhu RHO

Something happened, i can't see the "large farmhouse BP" in my BP tab

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like if the copist is making one only not 5 🤔

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so it's in an infinite loop

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looks like it's the only building doing that, all others BP are there

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https://tenor.com/view/smart-not-smart-man-forrest-gump-tom-hanks-gif-4496013

Tenor

I'm not a smart man

▶ Play video

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had transfer set to other distric to ship one but transport station was eating it all to stock up 🤣 woopsy

shell fiber Mar 25, 2023, 1:14 AM

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radiant heart Lazy ass suggestion, could the "artsy lodge" have a "just do it" option that it ...

unfortunately that's not somethign the reciepe system can do 😓

shell fiber Mar 25, 2023, 1:15 AM

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radiant heart like if the copist is making one only not 5 🤔

letme check

radiant heart Mar 25, 2023, 1:15 AM

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too bad, on the "quality of life" things that would have been nice

radiant heart Mar 25, 2023, 1:15 AM

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shell fiber letme check

don't i'm stoopid

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items in the transport lodge don't show up in the menu

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and even if i set the cap at one for the other district the worker fills up his stock ( think it's 30)

radiant heart Mar 25, 2023, 1:39 AM

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sewer spash +200! 🤣 . Actually that made me think about a deep diving station or something like that 🤔

shell fiber Mar 25, 2023, 1:48 AM

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ahah

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i should fix this someday

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oh by the way, the oresmelter works at night too 🙂

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i'll still shave off 10 hours from the reciepe for now

radiant heart Mar 25, 2023, 1:53 AM

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yay

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just to keep the pinapple(ananas) comming it's a lot of metal 😅

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booze is the next in line, will let you now, not sure i'll be making some tonight

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probably not, my "tribute to ingenuity" is part of my power line for that 😆

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that one doesn't say "fancy"

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probably the one todor was talking about

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and it can't be copied

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or be made fancy

shell fiber Mar 25, 2023, 2:15 AM

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fixed

radiant heart Mar 25, 2023, 2:54 AM

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it's so shitty to dig the mine, almost feel like the stairs shouldn't be in to make it more convinient to dig out ( yeah, i know i said the opposite when you brought it up)

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not sure if there is a way to make it easier to see what you need to dig up cauz atm it's not instinctive

shell fiber Mar 25, 2023, 3:43 AM

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in true waterbeaver fashion

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they only flood when covered with water

radiant heart Mar 25, 2023, 3:44 AM

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Nice, that's a game changer if the door can be in the water

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now that is starting to be interesting to make huge dams,
Quick question from the back:

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If i build something on top, does it mean the building is basicaly impossible to flood?

shell fiber Mar 25, 2023, 3:46 AM

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no the rule is the same, the entire stack floods when the entire stack is covered 🙂

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i didn't check what happens if you flood only one corner though

radiant heart Mar 25, 2023, 3:46 AM

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Makes the "pit and ladder" lodge a bit useles tho or i'm missing something?

shell fiber Mar 25, 2023, 3:46 AM

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yes and no

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pit and ladder lodge doesn't need stairs to be accessible

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but it's a fair point

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actually maybe i could add a door to the pit and ladder to give it an integrated stair

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could be nice

radiant heart Mar 25, 2023, 3:47 AM

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maybe with 4 haulers instead of 2 ?

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i like it but with those other buildings "floodable" up to the roof it loses a lot of it's plus value

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plus beavers can get wet fur easily like that with the door underwater, really decrease the appeal of the pit

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that's something that will highly increase the succes chance of a hard run, finaly having a way to make a big reservoir is important 😄

radiant heart Mar 25, 2023, 4:12 AM

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Made it connect, looks like path has to go down to the bottom wall. not even the arrow

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like can't see the dot at the entrance

radiant heart Mar 25, 2023, 4:42 AM

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210 scrap left on the map... the end is near but barely made it to 40 wellbeeing that time around 😦

shell fiber Mar 25, 2023, 5:36 AM

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billboards updated !

shell fiber Mar 25, 2023, 5:38 AM

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radiant heart Made it connect, looks like path has to go down to the bottom wall. not even the...

i think going to the arrow it the limit, the bottom wall is an artifact

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can probably remove it actually

shell fiber Mar 25, 2023, 5:38 AM

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radiant heart 210 scrap left on the map... the end is near but barely made it to 40 wellbeeing...

that's quite a lot if you ask me

shell fiber Mar 25, 2023, 6:03 AM

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New update posted ! nothing exploded yet on my side

radiant heart Mar 25, 2023, 1:24 PM

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will look it up later when kids are napping and let you know if something explodes!

shell fiber Mar 25, 2023, 2:23 PM

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are everyone else somewhat okay with the medium mine ?

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nothing to do in particular now, so i'll be streaming a bit i guess

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until i find new things to add/break

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of i could work on my giant sequoia

radiant heart Mar 25, 2023, 5:40 PM

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nothing exploded but transporter is not moving the small chauldron from a district to another 🤔 never tried before so can't tell if it's new

radiant heart Mar 25, 2023, 6:29 PM

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looks like no one wants a seashell necklace, got some made and tehy staying there while the bonus is at 0 on wellbeeing for it

static glacier Mar 25, 2023, 11:42 PM

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think i found a bug. If you stack watertight buildings upon another and delete one, the whole thing is for a nano second not watertight. Its not a big issue, but took me a while to figure out why the area I was draining always flooded a tiny bit again when i deleted the pump XD

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 12:36 AM

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sometimes water flows a bit on top and makes it flooded even if you don't see blue on the top it is "flooded", happened to me, dropped a watermeter to be sure, at 1.01 it doesn't show water on top but it is still considered flooded,

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and that's it, if with that extra field i can't stack carrots i'll dump billboards like a maniac all over the place 🤣

static glacier Mar 26, 2023, 12:45 AM

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aahhhh XD

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 12:47 AM

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everything else is stacking up ! not sure why but that faction is carrot intensive

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sry it's a bit small

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easier on the eye like that

distant wigeon Mar 26, 2023, 1:22 AM

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Do you have the carrot billboard anywhere?

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 1:34 AM

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got a few in the middle of the zone

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the every building is a house makes it difficult, would just slam those near the "living zone" normaly and it would sure help more

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well @shell fiber looks like you didn't kill him, he's still stranded and getting old 🤣

shell fiber Mar 26, 2023, 1:46 AM

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radiant heart looks like no one wants a seashell necklace, got some made and tehy staying ther...

Do you have a warehouse for them ?

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 1:47 AM

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yeah, not sure when but now they taking em

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just looked it back and it's getting there now

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guess the warehouse wasn't built, got quite a load of constructions in progress

shell fiber Mar 26, 2023, 1:49 AM

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I guess I can allow beavers to take them directly from the handicrafter

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 1:50 AM

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taht would have prevented me to say it's not working 🤣

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 2:07 AM

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Ho wow, when you said 2 wide on the meca pump i was expexting a 2x1, not a 3x2... gonna have to adapt !

shell fiber Mar 26, 2023, 2:35 AM

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i'll be streaming my playthruogh if people have time to waste 🙂

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 2:36 AM

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got a little time around, trying to figure out the proper amounts for booze, coconuts, stillnot pilling up

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still don't understand why you keep that awefull stew around, just a sentimental value?

shell fiber Mar 26, 2023, 2:41 AM

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i think it can be useful

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it will be once i implement a doom script 🙂

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that gives permanent penalty for beaver who die of unnnatural causes

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if i ever manage to do it

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 2:44 AM

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Ho that one... as long as it's "permanent" for the ones that were alive when it happened i'm down for it 😉

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got a age 412 dude around here that sure has seen a lot of shits!

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and the "eaten by the grue" thing counts as unnatural? that would suck

shell fiber Mar 26, 2023, 2:48 AM

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radiant heart and the "eaten by the grue" thing counts as unnatural? that would suck

yes but that's rare

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 2:48 AM

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also tried to use the "no forester" in some zones, just dumping maybe an original seed and then letting it go, it's about as bad as i expected, a "no forester" faction would need super cheap stuff

shell fiber Mar 26, 2023, 2:48 AM

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'ill rethink this of course in time

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 2:49 AM

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shell fiber yes but that's rare

maybe with 2-3 mines and 100- it's rare but at god knows how many mines and 370 beavers i see it quite often

shell fiber Mar 26, 2023, 2:49 AM

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ahahah

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but maybe i'll remove it from the medium mine, or i'll make it usable by bots

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 2:50 AM

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not that i care but if it's a permanent debuff it would suck

shell fiber Mar 26, 2023, 2:50 AM

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i'll make sure there is workaround in time

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the papermill is weird 😅

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 2:52 AM

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i went back to the non pop-building one since i don't need that much paper now

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and even with one worker it stops due to overstock

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carefull there with the dynamite, first layer is easy but you won't be able to put second layer without a bridge or something if you go like that

shell fiber Mar 26, 2023, 2:54 AM

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oh

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i never though of that

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 2:55 AM

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( like the middle square of a 3x3 hole won't be reachable on second layer)

shell fiber Mar 26, 2023, 2:55 AM

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that's why you said it would be better with the stairs separate !

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 2:55 AM

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😉

shell fiber Mar 26, 2023, 2:55 AM

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i see i see

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 2:56 AM

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you only need to remove 2 to be able to do it all at once, it's not terrible but will sure make you find "non-PG13" words first time around

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shell fiber Mar 26, 2023, 2:59 AM

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ahah, yeah i see

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 2:59 AM

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tried to see if only one could be removed but don't think it can be done

shell fiber Mar 26, 2023, 3:00 AM

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but that's not very good, it"s really impractical then

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 3:00 AM

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told ya 😉

shell fiber Mar 26, 2023, 3:00 AM

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yeah but i hadn't understood 😅

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i'm an idiot

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look

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 3:01 AM

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or i wasn't clear enough..

shell fiber Mar 26, 2023, 3:01 AM

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ah fucks'sake too late

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the roller

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 3:02 AM

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dafuq is that bumby roller ? 🤣

shell fiber Mar 26, 2023, 3:02 AM

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ShrugFT

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 3:03 AM

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something similar on the kitchen

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those 3 are having a "Épilepsy" crisis all night long

shell fiber Mar 26, 2023, 3:03 AM

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animations are annoying to make

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oh right fuck

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 3:04 AM

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happens also sometimes on lumber/gather flag

shell fiber Mar 26, 2023, 3:04 AM

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because it's a house too

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i really need to rework that mes

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mess

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 3:04 AM

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but they don't get "shelter" since they are outside

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it's a mess i agree

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update, ghost of the update is now 416 🤣

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BTW, made it up to 50 average wellbeeing at some point ! quite happy about it ( specially since 2nd distric is not even getting half the bonuses)

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and about to make my first bots !

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( gonna be my first ever on a WB run)

shell fiber Mar 26, 2023, 3:12 AM

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you'll see they look funny

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 3:12 AM

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Why so many mills? got only 3 for almost 400 beavers and they don't run 24/7 😉

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yes they are "camioneurs" prioritized

shell fiber Mar 26, 2023, 3:13 AM

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^^

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 3:14 AM

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2 wheat, one cattail

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and cattail one i removed the transport priority, aqua farm food seams to last real long in the wellbeeing bonuses

shell fiber Mar 26, 2023, 3:17 AM

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droughts are a bit too frequent, that kidn of annoying

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it's just "heyn pause your game and do nothing for a while"

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10 min every 20 min

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 3:18 AM

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i don't even care anymore about droughts, wish there was a way to make em longer in game just to see how long my setup could make it

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( I'm at cycle 65 on that run)

shell fiber Mar 26, 2023, 3:19 AM

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^^

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 3:19 AM

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And think i found the proper balance for the farming, looks like once beavers walk fast enough 2 famrs are more then enough to seed a large farmhouse

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Quite happy with how that turned out

shell fiber Mar 26, 2023, 3:22 AM

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whoah

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nice

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oh fuck i think they can get inside

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 3:23 AM

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and from another corner view

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 3:23 AM

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shell fiber oh fuck i think they can get inside

what?

shell fiber Mar 26, 2023, 3:24 AM

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the double lodges with floor entrance

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i had the wrong coordinate for the entry point

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 3:25 AM

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woopsy !

shell fiber Mar 26, 2023, 3:25 AM

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that's why i had beavers sleeping on the ground while having a home

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woopsie !

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 3:25 AM

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here, last 2 corner views of my crew

shell fiber Mar 26, 2023, 3:26 AM

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what map is this ?

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 3:26 AM

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shell fiber Mar 26, 2023, 3:26 AM

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that's a lot of mines !

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 3:27 AM

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shell fiber that's a lot of mines !

need to keep the "ananas" rolling

shell fiber Mar 26, 2023, 3:27 AM

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ahah

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are the balloons not moving ?

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 3:27 AM

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shell fiber what map is this ?

would have to double check, can't remember the name, it's one of the basic ones

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 3:28 AM

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shell fiber are the balloons not moving ?

not much, when i log in or place them they fly and then... not sure i've seen those move on other circumstances

shell fiber Mar 26, 2023, 3:28 AM

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they should be flying away again

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🤔

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 3:29 AM

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gotta admit i didn't give it much attention, in theory shouldn't they fly out at least once every 72h?

shell fiber Mar 26, 2023, 3:29 AM

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one cycle should take three days yes

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 3:30 AM

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got one at 92% gonna keep an eye on it and let you know

shell fiber Mar 26, 2023, 3:30 AM

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oh, not it's not actually linked to the reciepe progression

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they should only stay at the platform a little while

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then fly away, and come back, repeat

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 3:33 AM

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think the "stay" part is too long, don't really remember seeing them flying out

shell fiber Mar 26, 2023, 3:33 AM

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okay, there must be something wrong with the animation then

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 3:33 AM

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( outside before mentionned happenings)

shell fiber Mar 26, 2023, 3:33 AM

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i'll find out soon enough

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 3:34 AM

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in what, 15-20 cycles?

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think on that run my first balloon was cycle 45 but it was late, was faster on previous one

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can dams go on any watertight building?

shell fiber Mar 26, 2023, 3:37 AM

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radiant heart can dams go on any watertight building?

yes

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 3:38 AM

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wow, now that's a game changer

shell fiber Mar 26, 2023, 3:39 AM

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okay, i need to fix this mine

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that's not okay

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 3:41 AM

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pff now that i suffered you gonna nerf it.. 😒

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Do the curly stairs!!!!!

shell fiber Mar 26, 2023, 3:41 AM

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but i'll reduce the cost accordingly

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no i want to avoid dependancies

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 3:42 AM

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can't you just drop it in the mod so it's not a dependant ? ( if asking the maker obviously)

shell fiber Mar 26, 2023, 3:43 AM

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i think that would cause compatibility issues

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the game doesn't like duplicates

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 3:43 AM

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shell fiber the game doesn't like duplicates

got it !

shell fiber Mar 26, 2023, 3:43 AM

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and then asking people to enable / disable this and that depending on this and that is probably going to be messy

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plus i don't want everything to be too square so i like those stairs )à

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🙂

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 3:46 AM

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is there some sort of outline that can be all around to hep figure out the digging area? I'm thinking kinda like the "front legs" on the previous model of the large tank that would just go underground and not cause any isue but be there to show the "zone" ( not sure if that is clear)

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like straing pegs under the fence that would be underground once in place but at least help when trying to figure out the digging zone

shell fiber Mar 26, 2023, 3:48 AM

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ah, could be a good idea

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they will end up being undreground anyway

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 3:50 AM

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just a visual assistance, maybe with a clear horizontal line for every lvl underground

shell fiber Mar 26, 2023, 3:51 AM

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yeah 👍

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 3:51 AM

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was thinking about something like the platforms that there is a light brown at every box lvl

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but in metal because it looks better ! 😝

shell fiber Mar 26, 2023, 3:53 AM

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not sure i see where youre going 😅

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 3:54 AM

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exactly what you are doing atm but with the "legs" of the large tank, not a wood component

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and instead of stretching it, one over the other so there is some visual cue for the depth

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that's where i was going 😉

shell fiber Mar 26, 2023, 3:56 AM

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i'll go have lunch

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 3:57 AM

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Bon apétit!

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i'll probaly be in bed when you come back ( or at least i hope so) catch y'a later!

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(could you drop back the treated plank worker in the pool? would like to put some ferrish whells and frog statues 😉 ) not that much of a must but would be nice to make those fellers a tad happier

Done for today, thanks again for the great mod!

shell fiber Mar 26, 2023, 4:15 AM

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radiant heart (could you drop back the treated plank worker in the pool? would like to put som...

Oh, uh I'll think about it.
Might go into the refinery or something

shell fiber Mar 26, 2023, 5:20 AM

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adjusted the scroll rack so they are less annoying to select

shell fiber Mar 26, 2023, 5:43 AM

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the (real) papermill was really not that impressive as a paper production building, plus the original reciepe is weird (1 log to 2 paper ?)

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now the reciepe is 10 sawdust, 15 water and 2 pineresin (twice the cost of the crappy paper tent reciepe) gives 10 paper in one hour (vs 1 paper in 5 hours) otherwise.
so it is roughly 50 times more efficient

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added a reciepe to the gristmill to make it grind logs into sawdust with higher efficiency (1 log to 20 sawdust) than the gnawing station (1 to 12)

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might readjust that later tough

heavy lodge Mar 26, 2023, 6:08 AM

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Just enough for some termite, but, I don't think that beavers will like that 😄

static glacier Mar 26, 2023, 12:17 PM

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how?? XD

shell fiber Mar 26, 2023, 1:28 PM

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i don't know, water mechanics can be strange

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especially dams, they let water pass or not pass in an ON / OFF manner, so sometimes that causes waves and such

static glacier Mar 26, 2023, 1:33 PM

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i build some drainage, so it will work but it floods every time the water returns without connection to the streams XD

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 4:27 PM

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two-story watertight lodge broke down i think with last updates, transporters don't transport stuff anymore in those

shell fiber Mar 26, 2023, 4:40 PM

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which one ? the ones with the entrance on the second floor or first floor ? i had an issue with those on the first floor

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 4:55 PM

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shell fiber now the reciepe is 10 sawdust, 15 water and 2 pineresin (twice the cost of the c...

why not have 2 receipe, one with logs and one with dust? just an idea like that

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 4:55 PM

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shell fiber which one ? the ones with the entrance on the second floor or first floor ? i ha...

entrance on second

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 7:00 PM

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It's happening !

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lol, the animation is completely messed up, they walk upside down 🤣

radiant heart Mar 26, 2023, 7:22 PM

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super platform don't fit on the grill 😦

radiant heart Mar 27, 2023, 1:20 AM

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damn, heavy machinery is hungry, 2 in one day!

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lofty oxide Mar 27, 2023, 1:23 AM

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what does that?

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or is that specific to this mod?

radiant heart Mar 27, 2023, 1:23 AM

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think it's in the medium mine, the small one has Grue eating your beavers once in a while

lofty oxide Mar 27, 2023, 1:23 AM

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ah so specific to the mod

radiant heart Mar 27, 2023, 1:24 AM

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yeah it's specific to that one

radiant heart Mar 27, 2023, 2:45 AM

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well, medium mine is always stalling because excess of iron ...

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didn't expect it to be that bad but got 4 small, one medium and still lacking coal and medium one is not working cauz iron is capped out, there is a limit to the "build a pile, delete the pile, the rubble and rebuild the pile" strat, is get annoying

shell fiber Mar 27, 2023, 4:13 AM

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you can make coal from wood in that case no ?

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but i'll add a 100% iron ore and 100% coal too

shell fiber Mar 27, 2023, 4:14 AM

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radiant heart lol, the animation is completely messed up, they walk upside down 🤣

yeah there's somehting weird in the asset extraction i think

shell fiber Mar 27, 2023, 4:15 AM

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radiant heart why not have 2 receipe, one with logs and one with dust? just an idea like that

i kind of feel weird about making paper from logs directly, like how does that even work ?
but i'll think about it

lofty oxide Mar 27, 2023, 5:01 AM

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i think irl it's turned to pulp and then to paper

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not like shaved super thin

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a more realistic resource for beaver tech would something more papyrus-like

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tho they somehow can make ai robots so like, kinda unrealistic regardless lol

shell fiber Mar 27, 2023, 7:17 AM

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lofty oxide i think irl it's turned to pulp and then to paper

yeah that's why i prefer to have it made from sawdust

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but i saw some japanese woodcrafter use wide wood planers to shave paper-thin sheets from a block of wood, so that's not unthinkable, but the equipment is completely different.

shell fiber Mar 27, 2023, 7:21 AM

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lofty oxide tho they somehow can make ai robots so like, kinda unrealistic regardless lol

in this factions the robots will be made with dark magic and the souls of the damned 😅

lofty oxide Mar 27, 2023, 7:35 AM

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lol

shell fiber Mar 27, 2023, 10:13 AM

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heavy lodge Just enough for some termite, but, I don't think that beavers will like that 😄

i wonder if beavers eat insect if given the opportunity...

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okay, i think i fixed the lodges, added the 100% iron and coal reciepes...

shell fiber Mar 27, 2023, 10:38 AM

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nerfed a bit the windmills

shell fiber Mar 27, 2023, 12:42 PM

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or should i say "made them more interesting"

radiant heart Mar 27, 2023, 1:51 PM

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Ok, how high above ground does the windmill has to be ? 😆

radiant heart Mar 27, 2023, 1:53 PM

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shell fiber you can make coal from wood in that case no ?

Forgot about that one, but logs are running short atm, building second bot factory and had to do it over the river since i’m running out of space 😂 wanted to go over bakery/grills but the super platforms are not super enough, chimneys are in the way

shell fiber Mar 27, 2023, 1:54 PM

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radiant heart Forgot about that one, but logs are running short atm, building second bot facto...

oh i think the bakery and grill cannot have superplatforms because of the chimney

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i believe the bakery can have a 2x2 superplatform though

shell fiber Mar 27, 2023, 1:55 PM

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radiant heart Ok, how high above ground does the windmill has to be ? 😆

3, 6, 9 or 12 for 10/20/30/40 hp

heavy lodge Mar 27, 2023, 1:57 PM

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Then will make a map with 22 high terrain points 🥳

shell fiber Mar 27, 2023, 1:58 PM

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ahah

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nice try, but it won't work

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the base of the actuall windmill wants a stackable only, and 3/6/9/12 under that wants solid ground 🙂

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so the only way it to stack stuff from the ground to the required height

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but i didn't remove the basic platforms yet

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for what it's worth

radiant heart Mar 27, 2023, 2:01 PM

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40hp only ? 🙈 that’s quite a nerf

heavy lodge Mar 27, 2023, 2:01 PM

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Will test tomorrow , maybe, who knows ...

radiant heart Mar 27, 2023, 2:02 PM

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Will see how bad my power production drops when I get home later, got meetings all day today

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Guess they will vanish I think most are only 2 above ground 😩

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At least I went a bit overboard with the waterwheels, might need more batteries for the drought tho

heavy lodge Mar 27, 2023, 2:05 PM

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But, it seems more hellish .. water hell + wind power hell 👹

shell fiber Mar 27, 2023, 2:06 PM

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radiant heart Will see how bad my power production drops when I get home later, got meetings a...

oh maybe that's why you were so fast in your playthrough ? you've been using wind turbines all along ?

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but to be fair, 200hp for these puny tiny wind turbines is absolutely demented. this crap would barely ever manage to spin its own mass, yet alone produce any power

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but i'll add the IT engine eventually i think

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except it will consume methane

heavy lodge Mar 27, 2023, 2:08 PM

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You can left only the large windmills one, and increase the amount of paper required to build ....

shell fiber Mar 27, 2023, 2:14 PM

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heavy lodge You can left only the large windmills one, and increase the amount of paper requ...

there's really not much of a difference between the big and small one for my purposes, the big one is one block taller, but otherwise essentially the same

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oh and for people who have extra workforce, i put back the powerwheel

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except it only produces 5hp

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which means that one beaver has the strengh of five horses, which is already impressive if you ask me

heavy lodge Mar 27, 2023, 2:18 PM

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maybe you can replace hp with bp (beaver power) ? 😄

shell fiber Mar 27, 2023, 2:33 PM

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ahah, no, that's an UI thing

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deep down the thing is that i want people to rely on waterwheels, not always the powerwheel/engine/wind turbines that are much more reliable because there is just too many droughts in this game

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@radiant heart when you're very far into the game, the drought are all 9 days or does it remain somewhat random between 6 and 9 ?

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just because someone actually reached the point of having bots

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i wanted to give them some sort of halo of darkness, but no can do

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i'll try to find some smoke effect or something

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oh also they will live on for 5000 cycles 🙂

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no idea what building they can/cannot use though

heavy lodge Mar 27, 2023, 3:05 PM

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shell fiber just because *someone* actually reached the point of having bots

LOL, bots from hell ? 😮

shell fiber Mar 27, 2023, 3:17 PM

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i said they were made from the souls of the damned 😅

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i need to decide by what whacky system we will make them, of course you need to make the bot, but for the poor soul trapped inside i want to make something really awful, like a special baloon trader that goes kidnap kits of other factions

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then you use them in some satanic ritual 😈

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but maybe i can settle for something a bit less evil

heavy lodge Mar 27, 2023, 3:21 PM

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Hope so. If not, you can name your mod just Evil 🥳

shell fiber Mar 27, 2023, 3:22 PM

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maybe just satanic ritual without kit sacrifice is good enough

heavy lodge Mar 27, 2023, 3:23 PM

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NOOOOOO, or the game will be rated 18+ 😮

shell fiber Mar 27, 2023, 3:23 PM

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ahahahaha

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wait that's seriously among the PEGI guidelines ?

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Catapult FlyingF

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Update send !

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@radiant heart feel free to reclaim ressources from your wind turbines before updating !

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oh i forgot to make them cost 5 Sunfloweroil (need grease of course !)

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oh well

shell fiber Mar 27, 2023, 3:49 PM

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Update 1.1.8 send too !

radiant heart Mar 27, 2023, 7:42 PM

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shell fiber oh maybe that's why you were so fast in your playthrough ? you've been using win...

not really, went for wheels and batteries firts but since they won'tlast all the drought added the windmills, just recently changed the small ones for the big ones, a bit before getting the bots

radiant heart Mar 27, 2023, 7:43 PM

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shell fiber <@632743666783485982> when you're very far into the game, the drought are all 9 ...

I mostly get only 9 days, tbh i can't tell 100% sure since i don't even care about the droughts aanymore my shit is set to survive

radiant heart Mar 27, 2023, 7:44 PM

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shell fiber <@632743666783485982> feel free to reclaim ressources from your wind turbines be...

will do a backup save before updating just to see how bad it goes or not first

radiant heart Mar 27, 2023, 7:50 PM

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shell fiber just because *someone* actually reached the point of having bots

https://tenor.com/view/erin-krakow-hearties-when-calls-the-heart-elizabeth-thornton-try-not-to-take-it-personally-gif-20913106

Tenor

radiant heart Mar 27, 2023, 9:12 PM

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1.1.8 won't dowload, it crashrd the game...

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guess i'll enjoy my windmills a little more!

Honestly that is probably gonna be a runkiller, far from having enough batteries to last a drought and at the speed i can build them will probably need 5+ cycles to dynamite a trench and build those up. basically need to replace every big windmill by 4-5 at a 12 height

radiant heart Mar 28, 2023, 1:04 AM

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@shell fiber How about a distribution post that doesn't need to be built on a "watertight" tile?

And removing the "nothing to do in range" for the large farmhouse, not sure why it pops up but it's super annoying

shell fiber Mar 28, 2023, 2:55 AM

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radiant heart 1.1.8 won't dowload, it crashrd the game...

you can use 1.1.7 in the meantime 🙂
i'll try to reupload it soon

radiant heart Mar 28, 2023, 2:56 AM

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can't even do that, something is up on the download screen

shell fiber Mar 28, 2023, 2:56 AM

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radiant heart <@542299373606928384> How about a distribution post that doesn't need to be buil...

working on it, i need a bunch of 3D models from wolfess firs

shell fiber Mar 28, 2023, 2:56 AM

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radiant heart can't even do that, something is up on the download screen

🤔

radiant heart Mar 28, 2023, 2:57 AM

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the drop down menu on version doesn't work, guess i could get it from mod.io directly tho

shell fiber Mar 28, 2023, 2:57 AM

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i think there was something weird when i tried to upload 1.1.8

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just reverted to 1.1.7, killed 1.1.8

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try to restart the game and download 1.1.7 to see if it works ?

radiant heart Mar 28, 2023, 2:59 AM

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ok, need some loading time, my bandwith been shit past 2-3 weeks not sure why

shell fiber Mar 28, 2023, 2:59 AM

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ahah

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this mod is also a good 200+ Mo

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will take a little while

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unless you have crazy optic fiber connection and whatnot

radiant heart Mar 28, 2023, 3:00 AM

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at least i don't need to ear the "connecting sound" of the phone line !

shell fiber Mar 28, 2023, 3:00 AM

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ahahah

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old days

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i need to go, i have experiement that won't run themselves

radiant heart Mar 28, 2023, 3:01 AM

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one week of download to take one night to burn the CD you'll do the maddest sharpi desing on it !

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117 download crashed the game

shell fiber Mar 28, 2023, 3:03 AM

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can you send me the error message ?

radiant heart Mar 28, 2023, 3:03 AM

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shit, closed it

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one min gonna retry

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1.1.6 is still working fine tho,

heavy lodge Mar 28, 2023, 5:17 PM

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Why, if Water beaver, don't have to build waterproof buildings only in water ? And, to be destroyed if water dries out ... But, think that in this case the faction moto will become "revenge of the sith" 😄

shell fiber Mar 28, 2023, 5:29 PM

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heavy lodge Why, if Water beaver, don't have to build waterproof buildings only in water ? A...

you shouldn't give me this kind of idea 😅

heavy lodge Mar 28, 2023, 5:30 PM

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Just asking 😆

cyan lichen Mar 28, 2023, 11:25 PM

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Hello! I downloaded the mod but i dont see the faction whenever i try to start a game. Is there something like i have to pick the folktails and it will use the water faction itself?

radiant heart Mar 28, 2023, 11:44 PM

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no, it should be there

cyan lichen Mar 28, 2023, 11:50 PM

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it somehow isnt, i am not sure if im doing something wrong

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i am using the mod manager thing, and all the other mods work fine for me

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i have enabled only the water faction, BepInEx, and Timber API

radiant heart Mar 28, 2023, 11:56 PM

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need billboard and some others that are in the dependencies also

cyan lichen Mar 28, 2023, 11:57 PM

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oops, my bad

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lemme look those up and get them

radiant heart Mar 28, 2023, 11:57 PM

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extra stairs is now compatible with the water beavers if you want to keep it on

cyan lichen Mar 29, 2023, 12:00 AM

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oke i got them now! Thanks

radiant heart Mar 29, 2023, 12:01 AM

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YW

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nnow enjoy water hell!

cyan lichen Mar 29, 2023, 12:01 AM

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well, i apparently need to unlock them first xD even tho i got iron teeth already, which needs higher wellbeing score

radiant heart Mar 29, 2023, 12:02 AM

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it can be done quite fast the requirements are not that hard to do

cyan lichen Mar 29, 2023, 12:02 AM

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ye its only 5

radiant heart Mar 29, 2023, 12:03 AM

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basicaly housing a carrots/sunflowerseeds and youre done

cyan lichen Mar 29, 2023, 12:03 AM

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its like... get them food, shelter, water and it should be done lol

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yee

radiant heart Mar 29, 2023, 12:03 AM

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exactly

cyan lichen Mar 29, 2023, 12:03 AM

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its 2 am for me now tho, but its def something to eat up most of my day tommorow B)

radiant heart Mar 29, 2023, 12:03 AM

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lol, GN and enjoy tommorow!

cyan lichen Mar 29, 2023, 12:05 AM

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thank you!

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oke now i can sleep XD

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Any map recommendations for the mod? Or is it like, any map goes

radiant heart Mar 29, 2023, 12:23 AM

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better have pines near the start

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waterfall is a good for a first run, not too hard and can acces srap and pine from first distric center

cyan lichen Mar 29, 2023, 12:28 AM

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oki! thanks!

shell fiber Mar 29, 2023, 1:32 AM

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Hope you like it 😊

shell fiber Mar 29, 2023, 9:36 AM

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Uploading 1.1.9, no major change but hopefully it update correctly. no idea why 1.1.7 and 1.1.8 didn't work.

cyan lichen Mar 29, 2023, 11:25 AM

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it seems like all the buildings can have beavers sleep in them xD

shell fiber Mar 29, 2023, 12:23 PM

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cyan lichen it seems like all the buildings can have beavers sleep in them xD

Yep, that's the point 😅

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Good luck managing your population 👍

cyan lichen Mar 29, 2023, 12:24 PM

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Is the reason for this like... you are forced to have tons of beavers and are forced to expand?

shell fiber Mar 29, 2023, 12:27 PM

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Long story short yes, I wanted the game to be more challenging and give a reason to build more stuff than a small dam and a small farm, which in the base game is enough to survive basically forever

cyan lichen Mar 29, 2023, 12:27 PM

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i see

radiant heart Mar 29, 2023, 1:05 PM

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Think I’ll have to start a new run, 450 beavers + 100 bots, fps is dropping by time

cyan lichen Mar 29, 2023, 1:06 PM

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Oh god

radiant heart Mar 29, 2023, 1:08 PM

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Yeah. That’s the a thing with this mod, pop grows outta control fast, think at least 50 of that pop is gear making to keep the bot factories running and it’s not even enough 😆 hope we get a better way to make gears someday ( wink wink)

cyan lichen Mar 29, 2023, 1:09 PM

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Do you even need robots if you got mass beavers?

radiant heart Mar 29, 2023, 1:10 PM

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With robots I can lower the workdays time so beavers can be more happy, also since they work 24/7 can drop some double buildings

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We don’t really have bot exclusive workplace in this mod but I guess we’ll get that too someday

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With IT normally my « end game » is zero hours days and bots do all the job

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A tad harder here the way pop is managed

heavy lodge Mar 29, 2023, 1:14 PM

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YA, and, if you want taller dams, you need to use houses for that, and, population explode 👹

cyan lichen Mar 29, 2023, 1:18 PM

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radiant heart With robots I can lower the workdays time so beavers can be more happy, also sin...

how does it even work with the happiness from not working all day? is it just allowing them to do all the extra bits like go to shrines, have a shower, sit by a campfire etc?

heavy lodge Mar 29, 2023, 1:21 PM

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Could be better to have a negative happiness for an unemployed beaver, will complicate even more the game, but, will be more realistic 😄

radiant heart Mar 29, 2023, 1:21 PM

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cyan lichen how does it even work with the happiness from not working all day? is it just al...

Exactly

radiant heart Mar 29, 2023, 1:22 PM

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heavy lodge Could be better to have a negative happiness for an unemployed beaver, will comp...

If they have food and fun how would they be unhappy from not working?🤔

cyan lichen Mar 29, 2023, 1:22 PM

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radiant heart Exactly

oke, bc i couldnt see anywhere ''not working'' XD

radiant heart Mar 29, 2023, 1:23 PM

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The way pop is managed it’s almost impossible to keep everyone employed or you just build a load of gnawing station set to low priority and extra beavers go there

heavy lodge Mar 29, 2023, 1:24 PM

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radiant heart If they have food and fun how would they be unhappy from not working?🤔

Our luck is that, at least for now, beavers do not need to pay for their stuffs 😮

radiant heart Mar 29, 2023, 1:25 PM

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cyan lichen oke, bc i couldnt see anywhere ''not working'' XD

Basic rule of thumb is 18h days is ok to let them eat/drink/sleep and that’s about it, maybe a little shrine/campfire/terrasse time or something if it’s close to theyr house

cyan lichen Mar 29, 2023, 1:25 PM

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i literally never change it, im always at 16hr lol

radiant heart Mar 29, 2023, 1:26 PM

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16h they have time to walk around a bit and do stuff but not everything, 12-14 they really start to have a « life » outside of work

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Almost killed my run dropping hours and forgot to put bots in the water pumps

cyan lichen Mar 29, 2023, 1:27 PM

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how often do they need to do things? Like do you need to go to a rooftop terrace every day, or is it like... every other day is ok?

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same with food, do they need like grilled chestnuts everyday?

radiant heart Mar 29, 2023, 1:27 PM

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Not entirely sure about that, and some stuff last longer then others

cyan lichen Mar 29, 2023, 1:27 PM

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oh ok

radiant heart Mar 29, 2023, 1:30 PM

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Food is more then a day 90% sure, on another run with the extra snacks on, it would be simply impossible for them to eat one of each per day and they had all bonuses on ( was at 75 overall well-being)

cyan lichen Mar 29, 2023, 1:31 PM

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interesting

shell fiber Mar 29, 2023, 1:32 PM

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basically each foodstuff gives a bonus that takes 4 days to decay

radiant heart Mar 29, 2023, 1:32 PM

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Once you get the deluxe stew it’s easier a bit, it covers a lot of foods

cyan lichen Mar 29, 2023, 1:33 PM

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shell fiber basically each foodstuff gives a bonus that takes 4 days to decay

and activities? wet fur, shrine, etc?

shell fiber Mar 29, 2023, 1:33 PM

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cyan lichen and activities? wet fur, shrine, etc?

for those it depends how much time they manage to spend in the appropriate place

radiant heart Mar 29, 2023, 1:34 PM

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Shrine is an easy one, just dump some all over the map and it’s done 😅

shell fiber Mar 29, 2023, 1:34 PM

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also the coconuts and Ananas from the traders take 20 days to decay, and the shellneckace never decays

cyan lichen Mar 29, 2023, 1:34 PM

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ye i wonder more about the bigger ones like temple xD

radiant heart Mar 29, 2023, 1:35 PM

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shell fiber also the coconuts and Ananas from the traders take 20 days to decay, and the she...

FYI It’s about 1 trader per 100~120 beavers to keep the bonus active

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And only one booze factory for 3 traders maybe more, would need to test it out

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Metal is a bit of an issue since constant bot making eats a lot but still manageable, guess it’s my lack of gear that saves me there

cyan lichen Mar 29, 2023, 2:02 PM

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interesting

shell fiber Mar 29, 2023, 2:25 PM

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i'm trying to make some sort of "Beaver Institute of technology" to unlock the next tech tier. it's just a bunch of buildings taped together but still, what do you think ?
i tried a bunch of stuff but that's the only one that sort of looks nice

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cyan lichen Mar 29, 2023, 2:27 PM

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i like it!!

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its cool looking

shell fiber Mar 29, 2023, 3:11 PM

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Now the library increases the "book" need 🙂

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but i had to reduce the number of workslot to 10 otherwise the UI window is overstretched

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was surprisingly easy to do

split sparrow Mar 29, 2023, 3:17 PM

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Looks nice

shell fiber Mar 29, 2023, 3:58 PM

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thanks !

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i arranged a space in the irrigation house so a bridge can be placed in the door voxel

shell fiber Mar 29, 2023, 4:37 PM

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also i renamed the faction "The Whitepaws" thanks @tawdry bronze 😉

cyan lichen Mar 29, 2023, 4:50 PM

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ooo cool name

radiant heart Mar 29, 2023, 7:04 PM

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Ooo new stuff!!! I like 👍

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Gonna try tonight I think to update, just felt like playing yesterday, didn’t mess around with the upload

shrewd horizon Mar 29, 2023, 9:03 PM

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The new update with windmills is really great... But I wonder if it was really the idea to build windmills at the right height "above the ground". Earth blocks with a height of 6 don't count, is that logical?

radiant heart Mar 29, 2023, 9:04 PM

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kinda, i guess, flow close to the ground is affected by ground and surrounding, need to be higher to be optimal

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IMO with the nerf they got on the power output better aim at wheels and enough batteries to last a drought ( 9 days max on normal)

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still making some just to see but the output will sure be not enough

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shrewd horizon Mar 29, 2023, 9:07 PM

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That is some? Good joke 😄

radiant heart Mar 29, 2023, 9:08 PM

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what? that's only 31, at 40hp at max height it's just 1,2k hp, actually use close to 4k when everything runs, basically that's a tad under half what i need

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(considering batteries can recharge during windy nights)

shrewd horizon Mar 29, 2023, 9:14 PM

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OK ok... I'm just saying that I expected a more battery-like performance where the height counted a little differently.

radiant heart Mar 29, 2023, 9:16 PM

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yeah, but think it's game limitations, would have to ask @shell fiber about it.

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I'm just playing the F out of this mod, not making it 😉

radiant heart Mar 30, 2023, 1:10 AM

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Why not?

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I want a refund on that free thing you make for free on your sprare time 🤣

shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 1:43 AM

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shrewd horizon OK ok... I'm just saying that I expected a more battery-like performance where t...

Good morning 🌄😴
At the moment I don't know of any way to have it being on the absolute z-level rater than blocks above ground, but that would pose other problems anyway because different maps have different base levels.

Typically on the map canyon the starting area is at z two or 3, while on beaverome it is probably 10 or something.

Of course it is weird that when you get out of the starting. Canyon you get to build in top of the cliff which is "high" and thus should be windy, but it's not recognised as such because it's still "on ground"

I think the best solution is to use some overhangs like in the "extended architecture" mod si you can build them just over the edges of the cliff and thus benefit from the height of the wall, I'll look into it 👍

shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 1:45 AM

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radiant heart

Do you have something directly under the water output ? I think it want it unobstructed
Edit : yes I think you have a path that occupy the voxel

radiant heart Mar 30, 2023, 2:00 AM

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yeah, got a path -1 under it, is it possible to make it work?

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if the nozzle was on the other side I could rearrange the staris but on that side i can't, it's right in front of the door

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might have a one dynamite solution!

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or not, got another building underneath with a door on the opposite side

shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 2:15 AM

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hmm... i guess the pump could be satisfied with just the top segment of that block...

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which would allow a path directly under

radiant heart Mar 30, 2023, 2:16 AM

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that would be nice, kinda sucks with the doors now watertight that i can't make a shower in front !

shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 2:19 AM

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poor beaver, getting sewage splashed on his face everytime he gets in/out 😅

radiant heart Mar 30, 2023, 2:21 AM

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not gonna be everytimes, that gonna be a pound so it only sprays water a few times a day, the house pump should be enough

shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 2:21 AM

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it works 🙂

radiant heart Mar 30, 2023, 2:25 AM

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I hate to be a dick about it but what are the plans for the "more efficient" scrap metal once ruins dried out? got 60 useless eaters so sure could make more mines and primitive smelters but still... input is too low 😦

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traders with IT too, don't wanna count how many i'd need plus the mush growers

shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 2:30 AM

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radiant heart I hate to be a dick about it but what are the plans for the "more efficient" scr...

even with the medium mines ? i think they are five time more efficient already ?

radiant heart Mar 30, 2023, 2:31 AM

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mine is ok-ish, real issue is the smelting

shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 2:31 AM

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oh i see

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yeah i will have a real foundry eventually

radiant heart Mar 30, 2023, 2:31 AM

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building second medium mine atm

shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 2:32 AM

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notably because i want something to melt broken glass into non-broken glass

radiant heart Mar 30, 2023, 2:32 AM

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basicaly just need a "non-primitive smelter" the 15 per 40h is way too slow

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( and gears 😆 )

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those are the 2 real bottleneck atm

shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 2:35 AM

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i think rather than make more efficient gear manufacturing i might change the reciepes for bot limbs and stuff

distant wigeon Mar 30, 2023, 2:35 AM

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radiant heart Why not?

CHONKY Mechanical pump

shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 2:35 AM

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what do you think ?

radiant heart Mar 30, 2023, 2:51 AM

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shell fiber i think rather than make more efficient gear manufacturing i might change the re...

I like it, that's the one thing making gears a problem

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for the buildings sure sure it's a pain but you got time, for the "steady income" it's way too slow

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Is it possible to make bot a combination of It and FT bots so they can use fuel/hp and be boosted with catalyst/sciencetower?

beeing able to boost the bots would be nice bceause with the working speed, almost don't need them if working days can be a tad under 13h, beavers boost with good wellbeeing is far superior

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WTF, got almost 8k food but someone dies of hunger?

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shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 3:00 AM

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probably got stranded somewhere no ?

radiant heart Mar 30, 2023, 3:00 AM

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nope

shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 3:00 AM

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ShrugFT

radiant heart Mar 30, 2023, 3:00 AM

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Mr Stranded is alive and well

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Air quote "well"

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Anything can be done for the "nothing to do in range" on large farms? pops often for nothing and is kinda annoying, looks like if one can't find a patch to gather it will pop up. at least if it was if all 10 could not gather thing it would be more relevant

shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 3:16 AM

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radiant heart Anything can be done for the "nothing to do in range" on large farms? pops often...

i have some idea on how to solve that

heavy lodge Mar 30, 2023, 3:19 AM

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radiant heart Anything can be done for the "nothing to do in range" on large farms? pops often...

You can use https://mod.io/g/timberborn/m/statushider 🥳

mod.io

StatusHider for Timberborn

Hide unwanted floating status icons

shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 3:20 AM

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if that's a UI thing, it should work

radiant heart Mar 30, 2023, 3:20 AM

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heavy lodge You can use https://mod.io/g/timberborn/m/statushider 🥳

but will it hide all "nothing to do" flags?

heavy lodge Mar 30, 2023, 3:20 AM

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YA

radiant heart Mar 30, 2023, 3:20 AM

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just wanna get rid of the one on the large farm

shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 3:21 AM

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but the real fix for the farm is to add a new crop and make it plantable by the large farm only, then as long as you have one farm plot of that in range of the farmhouse it won't display anymore

heavy lodge Mar 30, 2023, 3:21 AM

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radiant heart just wanna get rid of the one on the large farm

Well, then the author must solve-it ...

shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 3:22 AM

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i'm working on a giant pumpkin modded crop, but i need 3D models for that, so it wasn't a priority

radiant heart Mar 30, 2023, 3:22 AM

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shell fiber but the real fix for the farm is to add a new crop and make it plantable by the ...

is that where the "giant seed" comes into play?🤔

shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 3:22 AM

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no that's a different thing

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but same principle in a way

radiant heart Mar 30, 2023, 3:22 AM

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shell fiber i'm working on a giant pumpkin modded crop, but i need 3D models for that, so it...

Giant pumpkin needs an halloween face ! ( Please!)

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and thank you!

shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 3:23 AM

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i can't have planting crop cost seeds because there is no provision for that in the game, but the seeds will be required to make a plant nursery

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and only that nursery will be able to plant giant sequoias

shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 3:24 AM

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radiant heart Giant pumpkin needs an halloween face ! ( Please!)

can maybe do it for the dead pumpkins 😅

radiant heart Mar 30, 2023, 3:25 AM

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that sounds awesome for the "no forester faction" i told you about, still trying to figure out how to balance it out but that "seed" thing would be a must so whatever map you start with it can be playable

shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 3:26 AM

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on the plus side i managed to fix the green sewage water thing 😉

radiant heart Mar 30, 2023, 3:26 AM

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shell fiber on the plus side i managed to fix the green sewage water thing 😉

almost disapointed, came to like it 😂

shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 3:26 AM

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ahah

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too late

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i should go to the lab now

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have fun

radiant heart Mar 30, 2023, 3:27 AM

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you too, later 👋

shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 3:51 AM

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radiant heart almost disapointed, came to like it 😂

If other people grew to like the sewage water I can put it back though 😅 it was literally the nitroglycerin texture

radiant heart Mar 30, 2023, 3:52 AM

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some ppl on the screenshot channel talked about it beeing "fertilizer pumps"

heavy lodge Mar 30, 2023, 3:53 AM

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Swimming in nitroglycerin ? This is true NitroHell 👹

radiant heart Mar 30, 2023, 3:53 AM

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liked the idea, kinda like the beehive but in a waterdump mode

distant wigeon Mar 30, 2023, 4:00 AM

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radiant heart WTF, got almost 8k food but someone dies of hunger?

Multiple districts?

radiant heart Mar 30, 2023, 4:00 AM

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only 2 and both got food

distant wigeon Mar 30, 2023, 4:01 AM

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Huh. Weird. Maybe one of the Shippers between district forgot to eat? Not sure.

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Depends on how far apart they are, I guess

radiant heart Mar 30, 2023, 4:02 AM

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*3 district. all got enough food. plus the death was in the main one that has all the food and food types and export to the other 2, really strange

shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 4:12 AM

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radiant heart some ppl on the screenshot channel talked about it beeing "fertilizer pumps"

Hmmm... Actually that can be a funny idea and make the showers useful 🤔

Like I change the waterdump recipe to consume a little bit of saltpeter (nitrates are fertilizer) and add a growth aura to the lido. But I'm exchange I give it the "yuck" debuff that can be washed off by taking a shower 🤔

Seems pretty fun to me

radiant heart Mar 30, 2023, 4:13 AM

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mheee, anything that gives a debuff should be skipable IMO

shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 4:13 AM

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Noooo

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Beavers must suffer 😅

radiant heart Mar 30, 2023, 4:14 AM

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player can suffer, but not my albino beavers 😉

shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 4:14 AM

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I can maybe make both a regular water dump and a yucky fertilizer dump

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Hmmm... But the issue is that the fertilising effect is not actually carried by the liquid

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And the lido can be placed anywhere

radiant heart Mar 30, 2023, 4:16 AM

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maybe use the "normal" water dump to be a fertilizer? so you just have to dig one hole and dump it there in the field, or like the irrigtion tower but a fertilizer tower

shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 4:17 AM

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radiant heart player can suffer, but not my albino beavers 😉

Would that be better if I make the shower not only clean off the yuck but also give a "silky fur" bonus ?

shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 4:18 AM

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radiant heart maybe use the "normal" water dump to be a fertilizer? so you just have to dig on...

Hmmm... Good idea too

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I'll think about it, but maybe I can get the pumpkins rolling first even if it is with placeholders 😉

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Or I can expand the cookin things

radiant heart Mar 30, 2023, 4:19 AM

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shell fiber Would that be better if I make the shower not only clean off the yuck but also g...

would make the shower relevant just for the extra bonus, never really build those

shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 4:20 AM

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Like now that we have coconuts to replace eggs, we can make lots of stuff : pies, cakes, gratin etc

shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 4:21 AM

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radiant heart would make the shower relevant just for the extra bonus, never really build thos...

Yeah it's pointless stuff like that that made me want to mod this game. Just... Why make a building that is so obviously bad ?

radiant heart Mar 30, 2023, 4:22 AM

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they were a good in between before you can make lido but wet fur is easy just making paths in the water

shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 4:32 AM

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Plus I've been itching to add ash and soap for a while

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Not sure about ash though, seems like a drag

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It rather what I was thinking for a while was to make all buildings that consume wood as fuel should generate ash too

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But I'll just add that to the charcoal maker I guess

radiant heart Mar 30, 2023, 4:39 AM

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IMO there is a lot of cool stuff already, might wanna head towards quality of life like the engines and ????. All those other things can be nice bonus later on but now the mid-game and up lacks some stuff to keep up pushing

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( pressure tanks for power could be cool, like a pneumatic/hydrolic system to store power) with the wind nerf and wheels beeing the only other option, need a way more efficient storage for the droughts, actually the wind nerfing cancelled my hard mode plans, batteries are too far down the road and wheels will work like 10% of the time.

Hard mode is 3-6 days ( 8 if lucky) of water with 30d droughts

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watertight door was a super sweet push towards making that possible but you crushed my dream with that power nerfing

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https://tenor.com/view/how-dare-you-greta-thunberg-gif-15130785

Tenor

radiant heart Mar 30, 2023, 5:07 AM

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RHU RHO, can't even make enough scrap to make sawblades....

shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 6:23 AM

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yeah hard mode is nonsense

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but a pressure tank for storing energy... interesting, could work

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or i can make the gravity batteries more accessible

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yeah i think i'll make gravity batteries more accessible, and variants that store more energy by using heavier elements. easy one should use logs, next rock or dirt or something, then metal, then plutonium 😅

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that seems quite easy to make

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in the meantime :

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c0e18106a8f658f4285966914ccceea6_-_Copie_4_-_Copie_-_Copie.jpg

shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 6:47 AM

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still some issues with connecting the road to the modules

shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 12:10 PM

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hmm...i don't understand why the ballon animation stops after one loop 🤔

radiant heart Mar 30, 2023, 12:15 PM

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shell fiber

You're merging grill and industrial kitchen?

radiant heart Mar 30, 2023, 12:16 PM

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shell fiber or i can make the gravity batteries more accessible

more accessible is one thing and also storing more if you plan on removing platforms

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won't be able to rise crazy high

shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 12:17 PM

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radiant heart You're merging grill and industrial kitchen?

oh i buid the module on the base of the grill, but it won't necessarily have the same reciepes

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i mostly want to make the industrial kitchen run 3-4 different reciepes at the same time

radiant heart Mar 30, 2023, 12:18 PM

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that's cool

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well if it can run all reciepes it could be nice too, like a small foodcourt where everyfood is available !

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or that's something for the "town square 🤔

shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 12:23 PM

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oh right, the townsquare 😅

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so about the balloons, they do the animation once, then never again ? or they redo it if you wait long enough ?

radiant heart Mar 30, 2023, 12:27 PM

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never seen the balloon move except when they get build or i load the game

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a one and done thing

heavy lodge Mar 30, 2023, 12:28 PM

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shell fiber i mostly want to make the industrial kitchen run 3-4 different reciepes at the s...

Not sure that you can run multiple reciepes at once, but, you can have all ingredients at input and multiple outputs !

shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 12:29 PM

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heavy lodge Not sure that you can run multiple reciepes at once, but, you can have all ingre...

oh yeah but then it's hard to choose
each module will have 3-4 recipes and maybe different modules could exist

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so in the end it's not really the kitchen that is running multiple reciepes, but it feels like it does

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because those kitchen modules are not hourses

heavy lodge Mar 30, 2023, 12:30 PM

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So, in fact will be different buildings, afterall ...

shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 12:31 PM

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🤫

radiant heart Mar 30, 2023, 12:56 PM

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mmm, trying to upload 1.1.9 crashed just like 7 and 8...

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here the crash file if it can help

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📎 error-report-2023-03-30-08h58m11s.zip

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will try get it manually from mod.io

heavy lodge Mar 30, 2023, 1:06 PM

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Manually delete the whole mod folder (water beaver), and install-it again !!

radiant heart Mar 30, 2023, 1:16 PM

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worked! yay

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and another crash, no clue why tho

📎 error-report-2023-03-30-09h24m18s.zip

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that while playing on 1.1.9

shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 2:04 PM

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any chance you were about to finish a pumping house ?

radiant heart Mar 30, 2023, 2:04 PM

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mmm, I had one building, probably was about to finish

shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 2:06 PM

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the error message is very uninformative, that reminds me of that issue

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wonder if i should rework this darned thing

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now that the power wheel is back in i can make a less weird building instead

radiant heart Mar 30, 2023, 2:18 PM

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so it would need external power?

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anyway, reaching an endpoint on that run, with the nerf on windmill it just doesn't work anymore and i'm too lazy to find a way to make it work, just gonna start up a new one, any map suggestion?

shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 2:29 PM

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well now that the houses are completely watertight, how about some insanity with beaverome or some waterworld stuff 😅

shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 2:30 PM

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radiant heart so it would need external power?

yeah likely

radiant heart Mar 30, 2023, 2:30 PM

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waterworls is tempting gotta admit

shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 2:30 PM

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shell fiber yeah likely

but maybe i'll just ditch the house part and make it a pump with crappy properties.

radiant heart Mar 30, 2023, 2:31 PM

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still have that hardrun on waterfal in mind but someone said it would be insane

shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 2:31 PM

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well you're already pretty out there playing this on hard mode 😅

radiant heart Mar 30, 2023, 2:32 PM

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honestly don't think I would survive 3 droughts on hard

cyan lichen Mar 30, 2023, 2:33 PM

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radiant heart waterworls is tempting gotta admit

i am very tempted to play waterworld with this faction...

radiant heart Mar 30, 2023, 3:06 PM

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still got the day to figure it out, can't work/play today, need to focus a bit 😆

shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 3:20 PM

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if someone want to suggest color patterns for marketplace stalls...

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problem is that it's pretty damn hard to make a decent building with only 2-3 blocs i'm afraid

radiant heart Mar 30, 2023, 3:21 PM

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lim and black alternate stripes?

shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 3:21 PM

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lim ?

radiant heart Mar 30, 2023, 3:21 PM

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*lime

shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 3:21 PM

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strange combination but sure, why not

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for what kind of stall ?

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if you have any idea of course

radiant heart Mar 30, 2023, 3:23 PM

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with that set of color it has to be monster energy drink 😂

shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 3:25 PM

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oh, i see

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maybe i should start by planning what buildings i want...

radiant heart Mar 30, 2023, 3:28 PM

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having the color sorta matching what will be in there sure gonna help

silver phoenix Mar 30, 2023, 3:38 PM

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is there no booth?

shell fiber Mar 30, 2023, 4:14 PM

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silver phoenix is there no booth?

the 3D model is not finished yet

tranquil hull Mar 31, 2023, 11:41 AM

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What's the "Categorybuttons" mod mentioned in the description?

radiant heart Mar 31, 2023, 1:30 PM

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it's so buttons have an extra layer

tranquil hull Mar 31, 2023, 1:45 PM

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Where do I find it?

shell fiber Mar 31, 2023, 3:17 PM

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you should be able to find it easy in the modmanager 🤔

shell fiber Mar 31, 2023, 3:51 PM

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oh btw i found why the balloons animations would run only once

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there was a box to tick

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simple as that

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the box was just poorly labeled

radiant heart Apr 2, 2023, 2:05 AM

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taking a little break from the beavers, gonna run lttpr seeds for a bit, if you need a test on something @shell fiber just ping/DM me i'll be happy to help!

full bone Apr 2, 2023, 2:11 AM

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cyan lichen i am very tempted to play waterworld with this faction...

Feel like waterworld would be really hard with this faction because you cant get dirt blocks to landscape with and alot of buildings can only be built on ground and nothing else so you would run out of room really fast also no regular levees would make it difficult to block off new areas

shell fiber Apr 2, 2023, 2:58 AM

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well what you're describing is the principle of this faction, except watertight buildings are not restricted to the ground but can be placed above other watertight buildings, so you can make a wall of houses to block off an area, it's just more complex and will cause your population to expand 😅

shell fiber Apr 2, 2023, 2:59 AM

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radiant heart taking a little break from the beavers, gonna run lttpr seeds for a bit, if you...

sure !
i have spend the last week playing some other game too, that's why i didn't mod so much

heavy lodge Apr 2, 2023, 2:59 AM

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Expand ? More likely, explode 😮

shell fiber Apr 2, 2023, 3:00 AM

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🤭

full bone Apr 2, 2023, 3:55 AM

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shell fiber well what you're describing is the principle of this faction, except watertight ...

Is there any way to turn off the "building flooded" notification? My only problem with building water tight houses under the water is the annoying notification lol

heavy lodge Apr 2, 2023, 3:56 AM

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You can use https://mod.io/g/timberborn/m/statushider You can hide what you want.

mod.io

StatusHider for Timberborn

Hide unwanted floating status icons

full bone Apr 2, 2023, 3:59 AM

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Oh nice didnt know about that one

shell fiber Apr 2, 2023, 12:46 PM

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Okay, i have the placeholder working for Pumpkins, that will only be plantable by the Large Farmhouse, and harversable by either the large farmhouse of the normal one.
so as long as you have one in range of the large farmhouse it won't say "nothing to do" anymore

silver phoenix Apr 2, 2023, 12:57 PM

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@shell fiber I just noticed there is a thing sticking out at the bottom of your incinerator https://puu.sh/JDkEu/559804317a.png

shell fiber Apr 2, 2023, 12:58 PM

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oh, yeah right

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i had noticed on the smelter and removed it last week or so, forgot to check the incinerator

shell fiber Apr 2, 2023, 2:35 PM

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Thanks again @clever flax for the 3D model and texture !

radiant heart Apr 2, 2023, 5:32 PM

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shell fiber Thanks again <@250270177365721088> for the 3D model and texture !

so we gettting some starbucks with pumpkin spice late for halloween? 🤣

radiant heart Apr 3, 2023, 12:48 AM

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heavy lodge You can use https://mod.io/g/timberborn/m/statushider You can hide what you want...

can you hide only from specific building? like the "nothing to do in range" I want it deactivated only with the large farm

heavy lodge Apr 3, 2023, 12:49 AM

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No, just global (for all buildings) ....

radiant heart Apr 3, 2023, 12:53 AM

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for late game it's gonna be ok but early on i like the notification to see and area was cleaned

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like old dead wood and scrapmetal

shell fiber Apr 3, 2023, 2:24 AM

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Just wait for the next update, pumpkins will fix that

heavy lodge Apr 3, 2023, 2:27 AM

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Hope don't wait until halloween for pumpkin ? 😄

shell fiber Apr 3, 2023, 8:21 AM

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i think i'm going to add a ton of new items and reciepes soon, right now i'm going do add :

salt (dig from the mine)
fried potatoes
Ananas Juice
Coconut Milk
Pumpkin Spice Smoothie
Ice blocks
Ice cream
Cocoa

heavy lodge Apr 3, 2023, 8:30 AM

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Ice ? Then you need to add, also, flu , as a negative state and, a treatment 😳 😄

shell fiber Apr 3, 2023, 8:42 AM

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why ? ice is just to make ice cream 😅

heavy lodge Apr 3, 2023, 8:42 AM

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And, ice cream it isn't cold ?

analog zodiac Apr 3, 2023, 9:16 AM

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love me some ice cream soup

shell fiber Apr 3, 2023, 1:41 PM

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heavy lodge And, ice cream it isn't cold ?

But cold doesn't actually causes influenza 😅

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Can make a "brain freeze" debuff though 🤔

radiant heart Apr 3, 2023, 8:57 PM

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with that many reciepes gonna need to make the wellbeeing bonus last longer or it will be useless to rack them all up since beavers won't be able to eat it all once before they need to refill on one

distant wigeon Apr 3, 2023, 10:39 PM

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radiant heart with that many reciepes gonna need to make the wellbeeing bonus last longer or i...

There's always the packing plant mod...

radiant heart Apr 4, 2023, 12:24 AM

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distant wigeon There's always the packing plant mod...

not familiar with that one, looked a bit but didn't try, don't really understand what it does

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And so it begins....

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Hard mode activated

radiant heart Apr 4, 2023, 1:50 AM

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Honestly, not that bad, a larger tank but that works as a house too would be nice, managed to keep pop low enough to even have homeless

radiant heart Apr 4, 2023, 2:17 AM

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like wood/construction time is a bit harsh

Maybe a 2x2 with 200 storage for 30logs🤔 ( a 3pop of course)

radiant heart Apr 4, 2023, 2:54 AM

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planks before logs on irrigation tower? plz? lost almost a day there.. someone asked about something similar for another building and if i remember correctly it was easy,

IMO for all buildings should be higher tier items first in the building list so the crafting places can run more efficiently

radiant heart Apr 4, 2023, 4:12 AM

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well, survived 2 droughts, time to hit the bed, tought would not make it over 3rd one but that gonna have to wait till tommorow!

shell fiber Apr 4, 2023, 4:48 AM

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radiant heart planks before logs on irrigation tower? plz? lost almost a day there.. someone ...

Oh oops

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I think I'll get back to modding a bit today 👍

shell fiber Apr 4, 2023, 4:54 AM

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radiant heart like wood/construction time is a bit harsh Maybe a 2x2 with 200 storage for 30...

Yeah that's a good idea I think, I had made some tests before with storage houses so I know it works.
Plus I want to have more stackable waterproof houses that are worth being built.

But I also want them to have a job so they might have a hauler job

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Wonder if I should get rid of the normal warehouses then 😅

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That would not be very nice though

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I'll try to put up an update before I lose track of what I added in this one

heavy lodge Apr 4, 2023, 5:36 AM

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Or, let the players to discover what's new or changed in the faction, and have heart attack 👹

distant wigeon Apr 4, 2023, 6:54 AM

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radiant heart not familiar with that one, looked a bit but didn't try, don't really understand...

Basically, instead of your beavers visiting multiple warehouses to fulfill a single food need, the packing plant can pack multiple foods together into a single unit, so a beaver needs only to visit one warehouse to fulfill multiple food needs at once.

shell fiber Apr 4, 2023, 10:28 AM

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yeah that's also why i made the deluxe stew, fills up a lot of different food needs

radiant heart Apr 4, 2023, 12:37 PM

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shell fiber Wonder if I should get rid of the normal warehouses then 😅

early on you need the tiny one, maybe the large one could turn into housing also tho

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feels like early game house VS not a house balance is descent for a normal run, went over conservative on this one to avoid getting wrecked but could probably have built one more farm

radiant heart Apr 4, 2023, 1:06 PM

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If you drop a dam on a house and water flows over the dam, is the house considered flooded or the dam protects the "top vent" ?

shell fiber Apr 4, 2023, 1:13 PM

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nah it's going to get flooded

radiant heart Apr 4, 2023, 1:22 PM

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mm, now that F's up my plan a bit then 🤔

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at least looks like i'll survive 3 droughts!

shell fiber Apr 4, 2023, 5:09 PM

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sorry i didn't do any modding today in the end, paperwork to do and stuff

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eventually there will be a dam upgrade MK2 though

radiant heart Apr 4, 2023, 5:13 PM

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no biggie, trying to survive that run 😅

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water storage becoming an issue a bit

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quite surprised tho reaching cycle 7, never tought it would last that long

radiant heart Apr 4, 2023, 8:11 PM

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started cheating a bit at cycle 9, medium tank is quite far and droughts are getting over 10 days 😦 can't really see a lidget way to make it work on hard , at least on that map or with some tweaking on the cost/buildings

shell fiber Apr 5, 2023, 12:08 AM

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which map ?

radiant heart Apr 5, 2023, 12:20 AM

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don't remember the exact name

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it's part of the starter pack

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Meander?

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think i F'd myself up a bit tho, center is a bit too far from the river, c'est use all the land

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ok, I'm dead, 20 day drought incoming, no way i have enough water

shell fiber Apr 5, 2023, 3:36 AM

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oh i like this map, it's the one with the slope you didn't see for a while right ?
i think it's quite hard

carmine dragon Apr 5, 2023, 8:30 AM

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I thought I should let you know that a little popular streamer in Japan is using your mod for a playthrough series HappyF
I'm considering localizing it, but it would be a lot of work
Also, there are a lot of line breaks, so it might be difficult to work with in a spreadsheet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD3xIFqbnaY&list=PL2mmFCl_Fv5Z_VJYaFrpkI4iNevAyGlw4

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shell fiber Apr 5, 2023, 8:34 AM

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Oh, that's cool ! thanks for telling me !

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Making different localization would be nice, but i'm making frequent changes and new stuff is not necessarily added at the end, so the file might be an awful mess. but part of me thinks that some of that would actually be better in a spreadsheet. anyway, it goes without saying that i don't even try to maintain multiple languages at once.
But in which language would you like to translate ?

carmine dragon Apr 5, 2023, 8:43 AM

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I think I can localize it into Japanese (That is if I can translate the puns like Jack the Ripper well beaver )
I think it's ok to mix Japanese and English as it won't be that hard to read, but if it's a burden on the mod creators, I can wait until you settle down BeaverSleeping

shell fiber Apr 5, 2023, 8:46 AM

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carmine dragon I think I can localize it into Japanese (That is if I can translate the puns lik...

ahah, no, any help is welcome, but let's wait for the next update at least (soon) so i can think about making the file maybe a tiny bit more organized.
maybe i should try to open it in excel actually, wonder if that works

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oof, i can speak japanese quite well, but the electronic voice and the tone variations is hard on my brain 😅

carmine dragon Apr 5, 2023, 8:51 AM

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Understood, this is your mod and you can make all the policy LoveF
Haha, yes, there are some free text-to-speech software programs available now that sound more "natural"
However, the artificial voice (Yukkuri) has been popular in Japan for a long time and many people still use it😂

shell fiber Apr 5, 2023, 8:58 AM

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Eh, that was still fun to watch, they explain it quite well actually. I'm just very worried at the choice of the difficulty setting 😅

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okay, enough fooling around, i have pumpkins to add in.

carmine dragon Apr 5, 2023, 9:02 AM

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It is still being updated and the latest chapter was posted yesterday DamF
Unfortunately, the most recent update caused all of his windmills to be destroyed, and he's been struggling with the aftermath ever since🤣
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z12XkspjT-Q&list=PL2mmFCl_Fv5Z_VJYaFrpkI4iNevAyGlw4&index=12

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shell fiber Apr 5, 2023, 9:22 AM

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ahahahahahahaha

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oopsie

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i did say it in this thread though

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😅

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but if he managed to survive, lack of power is more of a setback than an existential threat i thinnk

shell fiber Apr 5, 2023, 10:59 AM

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@radiant heart which building was it where you had an issue with important ressources being in the wrong order ?

radiant heart Apr 5, 2023, 11:54 AM

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shell fiber oh i like this map, it's the one with the slope you didn't see for a while right...

nope it's not the same as my previous run, it's the one with the nnarrow riveer and high clifs all around, was kinda messy finding a spot for the mine !

radiant heart Apr 5, 2023, 11:55 AM

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shell fiber <@632743666783485982> which building was it where you had an issue with importa...

it's the irrigation tower, planks are second so my mill jammed since beavers were filling up logs before planks

shell fiber Apr 5, 2023, 11:56 AM

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aaah, i see

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uuh, but generally i put logs before planks because i put them in the order you become able to get them, save for the red ones

radiant heart Apr 5, 2023, 11:57 AM

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i see, i'd prefer the last you can get goes first would help the production not get stock but i get it, just gonna need better managment

radiant heart Apr 5, 2023, 12:04 PM

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shell fiber but if he managed to survive, lack of power is more of a setback than an existen...

depends, it killed my run, even if i had a load of 12high platforms ready for the wind it dropped way too much

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( ok my network required over 6k hp, maybe it was a bit much) !

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anyway it's most probably the end of Hard mode run No1, cycle 10, 30 water left and 6 days to go on the drought...

Gonna give it another run probably, atm the big issue is I would need a storage tank in between the small one and the medium one, or have tar a bit more accessible idk...

shell fiber Apr 5, 2023, 12:23 PM

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i'm making it right now, then upload

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storage house for boxes, (144 units) and for water (150 liquid)

radiant heart Apr 5, 2023, 12:24 PM

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nice

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you know how long a beaver can last once the thirst icon pops up?

shell fiber Apr 5, 2023, 12:34 PM

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a tiny bit more than four days, but your efficiency starts to collapse once all of your beavers get thirsty, they keep running in circles looking for water even though they are the ones tasked with pumping water :/

radiant heart Apr 5, 2023, 12:35 PM

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barely survied that cycle 10 and already flashing red and 2 days till next drought... now that should be the last one that kills me

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had 2 die of thirst only,

shell fiber Apr 5, 2023, 12:35 PM

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but i really think that hard mode is just dumb. better try to come up with some custom difficulty that takes the drought length of the hard mode, but the frequency of normal mode

radiant heart Apr 5, 2023, 12:36 PM

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the "in between" is kinda insane i agree, barely 5 days to refill in between

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11 days... should survive it but gonna loose some lifes for sure 😅

radiant heart Apr 5, 2023, 2:25 PM

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How about having the 6deep pumps like the IT instead of the 2 one like the FT? I mean if you want ppl to build up dam houses super high it needs some sort of purpose, with a 2long tube going over that height is not really a required thing

shell fiber Apr 5, 2023, 3:03 PM

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radiant heart How about having the 6deep pumps like the IT instead of the 2 one like the FT? ...

oh, yeah, that on my list of things that get constantly pushed back 😅

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oh well, i'll just slap a copy of the IT pump real quick

heavy lodge Apr 5, 2023, 3:09 PM

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To make that unique, be driven by the wind (a small windmill on top), and, a house 😄

radiant heart Apr 5, 2023, 3:14 PM

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shell fiber oh, yeah, that on my list of things that get constantly pushed back 😅

that could have save my ass big time on that run! anyway, gonna see, it's still running, survived a 20day drought ( ok ppl had to die ) but still survived!

shell fiber Apr 5, 2023, 3:24 PM

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i saved myself quite some time by slapping the house part UNDER the pump instead of sliding the whole pump up

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so i don't have to redo all of the block object settings

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so it will be only five deep in the end

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but that's good enough

radiant heart Apr 5, 2023, 3:25 PM

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yeah, 5 is descent

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will it be available from the start or it's science and/or BP locked?

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think it's been at least 5 cycles my librairy could not even run 😆

heavy lodge Apr 5, 2023, 3:32 PM

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Maybe, for hard mode, normal dam and levee (vanila), but with building cost for levee 200 lumber and 50 resin and for dam 150 lumber and 25 resin ?

shell fiber Apr 5, 2023, 3:33 PM

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made it cost 250 science i think

radiant heart Apr 5, 2023, 3:34 PM

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shell fiber made it cost 250 science i think

well, could not even get it, only was able to unlock regular stairs and then librari got sutdown due to surviving issues 🤣

shell fiber Apr 5, 2023, 3:34 PM

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ahaha

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well even being nice, i would have it cost 150

radiant heart Apr 5, 2023, 3:34 PM

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heavy lodge Maybe, for hard mode, normal dam and levee (vanila), but with building cost for ...

would just be pointless woood too hard to get on hard mode early game

shell fiber Apr 5, 2023, 3:34 PM

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plus it need some nails, planks, and oil

radiant heart Apr 5, 2023, 3:35 PM

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lol, cycle 13 and i don't even have the oilpress

shell fiber Apr 5, 2023, 3:35 PM

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heavy lodge Maybe, for hard mode, normal dam and levee (vanila), but with building cost for ...

i don't really like the stackable levees 🤔

heavy lodge Apr 5, 2023, 3:35 PM

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radiant heart would just be pointless woood too hard to get on hard mode early game

Not quite for early games, but to have a chance in long drought ...

shell fiber Apr 5, 2023, 3:35 PM

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radiant heart lol, cycle 13 and i don't even have the oilpress

well hard mode, too busy trying to survive 🙂

shell fiber Apr 5, 2023, 3:36 PM

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heavy lodge Not quite for early games, but to have a chance in long drought ...

oh i see

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yeah, but then i think i'll make up some sort of concrete cube

radiant heart Apr 5, 2023, 3:36 PM

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long droughts come quite fast tho, cycle 11-12 it's already 20d+

shell fiber Apr 5, 2023, 3:36 PM

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something horribly expensive

heavy lodge Apr 5, 2023, 3:36 PM

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with such a cost in lumber, will be impossible in earlier stages of game .

radiant heart Apr 5, 2023, 3:37 PM

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all my wood is in more small tanks 🤣

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1,4k storage only in small ones

shell fiber Apr 5, 2023, 3:39 PM

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okay, everything seems to work, time to pack and send 🙂

radiant heart Apr 5, 2023, 3:39 PM

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need that number closer to 3k storage so water will be ok no matter how long the drought is ( considering the cap at 30) at that point i guess expending and stuff gonna be more doable

shell fiber Apr 5, 2023, 3:41 PM

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good thing is that the pumpkins are very efficient in terms of manpower

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it's 2x2, grows in 7 days, and takes 2 hours to harvest

radiant heart Apr 5, 2023, 3:42 PM

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my guys are survive out of berries, mush and a bit of stew here and there atm

shell fiber Apr 5, 2023, 3:42 PM

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so basically in the same amount of space and time, you would need to plant grow and harvest 4 carrots twice

radiant heart Apr 5, 2023, 3:42 PM

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how many pumpkins does it land out?

shell fiber Apr 5, 2023, 3:42 PM

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and yet the pumpkin produce more food, for 1/8th of the manual work

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30

radiant heart Apr 5, 2023, 3:43 PM

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nice, sure gonna be helpfull! See, you can be nice when you want to 😉

shell fiber Apr 5, 2023, 3:43 PM

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4 carrots twice would yield 24

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but it's reserved to the large farmhouse 😈

radiant heart Apr 5, 2023, 3:43 PM

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there had to be a catch !

shell fiber Apr 5, 2023, 3:44 PM

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but on the plus side, you won't be bother by the "nothing to do" mark anymore 🙂

radiant heart Apr 5, 2023, 3:44 PM

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so now large farm can plan too? like they don't need the small ones or they only can plant pumpkins?

shell fiber Apr 5, 2023, 3:44 PM

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only pumpkins

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fuck i forgot to modify the lockkey

heavy lodge Apr 5, 2023, 3:45 PM

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shell fiber only pumpkins

that's the catch 🐸

shell fiber Apr 5, 2023, 3:46 PM

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well that's a game limitation litterally

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all crops are locked until you have at least one of THE building that can plant them

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big "THE"

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the game expect one prefab and not more to anwser the call

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otherwise kaboom

radiant heart Apr 5, 2023, 3:49 PM

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but the basic crops are never "locked" since regular farms are available at the start. Not sure what i'm not getting

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anyway, i like the way regular/large farms have to coexist so it's not bothering me at all

shell fiber Apr 5, 2023, 3:49 PM

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🤔

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maybe it's "until it's unlocked"

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you'll see, the pumpkin have a tiny padlock until you unlock the large farmhouse

heavy lodge Apr 5, 2023, 3:50 PM

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radiant heart anyway, i like the way regular/large farms have to coexist so it's not bothering...

Ya, if you have SP to make BP for large farmhouse 😄

radiant heart Apr 5, 2023, 3:51 PM

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yeah but once you got the BP you could just flush out the small farms, i like that they have to stay

shell fiber Apr 5, 2023, 4:06 PM

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okay, uploading !

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kaboom ?

radiant heart Apr 5, 2023, 4:39 PM

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was out for lunch, give me a min i'll save and upload

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no kaboom

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What's the point of making the kistchen modules? they work like grills but don't make pop space only or they work faster?

shell fiber Apr 5, 2023, 4:57 PM

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for now a mix of grill and kitchen

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but i'll add variants soon

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so you can choose what kind of cooking your kitchen does

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🙂

radiant heart Apr 5, 2023, 4:58 PM

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gonna crab carrot cakes and blueberies pie from the extra snack mod?

shell fiber Apr 5, 2023, 5:08 PM

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i need to check what that mod does, but maybe that's not necessary, there will be blueberry-coconut ice cream after all 🙂

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actually the amount of coconuts that will be needed is bound to be insane, i should try to think of some alternative way.

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anyway, time to go to sleep !
have fun !

radiant heart Apr 5, 2023, 5:13 PM

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GN !

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Good job for the book bonus with the library, that wellbeeing kick sure helps a ton ! LoveIT

shell fiber Apr 5, 2023, 5:25 PM

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Oh I just noticed : we're going to need to mod discord so we have WB emojis 😅

shell fiber Apr 6, 2023, 5:03 AM

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carmine dragon Understood, this is your mod and you can make all the policy<:LoveF:887645571026...

about the localization, you can work with a CSV file, it's actually far more convenient. I tested it yesterday and immediately shifted to that (was using notepad until that point).
If you download the last update, you should find a enUS_source.csv file in the staticfiles folder, as well as the enUS.txt the game actually uses.

so most likely you can do the localization whenever you want, since i can sort the entries in the spreasheet tools i'm just adding new stuff at the end now, so after each update you can just grab the new entries, and if something is missing, you can just sort the entries on your side to get the ones that have no japanese lockkey 👍 (or use the "compare documents" function)

shell fiber Apr 6, 2023, 5:26 AM

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I'm reviewing the entire file, using a csv revealed a bunch of issue, there is also deprecated entries to remove

shell fiber Apr 6, 2023, 7:04 AM

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this is the current good version, i added "watertight building" to those that are

📎 enUS_Source.csv

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clearly people get caught in FT or IT habits and don't get that many buildings are watertight

oblique tree Apr 6, 2023, 11:51 AM

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is this compatible with other mods from mod.io?

shell fiber Apr 6, 2023, 12:21 PM

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only a tiny part.
most mods simply won't do anything, my other mods (typically mushrooms & sawdust, tall tiny storage, logstairs) are EXTREMELY incompatible with this one, make sure to disable them before restarting your game with this one.

Otherwise right now only curly stair and path extension are natively compatible, ChooChoo can be made compatible easy, same for vertical power shafts, i can give you the specification file if you need

shell fiber Apr 6, 2023, 1:47 PM

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streaming for a little while

oblique tree Apr 6, 2023, 2:37 PM

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i see, thank you

shell fiber Apr 6, 2023, 2:38 PM

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quick question for people who have played this mod enough to use dam upgrades :
i added a variant of the cross-shaped dam that has a passage and a power shaft inside, and now the upgrade of this dam had a floodgate functionnality. if it far more expensive, but considering that it is far more useful my question is : is there really any purpose left in having the normal cross-shaped dam around ?

i suppose an alternative would be to make the upgrade to the vanilla cross-shapped dam have the floodgate upgrade, and the upgrade of the other utiliy dam (passage-shaft) be just a vanilla height upgrade 🤔

shell fiber Apr 6, 2023, 2:38 PM

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oblique tree i see, thank you

have fun !

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don't forget to check out the billboards 🙂

oblique tree Apr 6, 2023, 2:39 PM

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haha thank you, will do!! saw the mod the other day

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but i have to say, you have some good ideas

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i' m currently using your 4-Ways district center, 2-tall small storage, Logstairs

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i love them

shell fiber Apr 6, 2023, 2:42 PM

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oh, thanks !

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some of them were actually really easy to make 😅

carmine dragon Apr 6, 2023, 2:48 PM

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shell fiber about the localization, you can work with a CSV file, it's actually far more con...

Thank you very much LoveF
It certainly makes the translation process much easier
It may take some time, but I will share it with you when it is completed WorkHardF

shell fiber Apr 6, 2023, 2:50 PM

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thanks !

oblique tree Apr 6, 2023, 3:01 PM

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shell fiber some of them were actually really easy to make 😅

maybe, but not many of us have the time for modding. so im always thankful for the mods in the games i play no matter how small

shell fiber Apr 6, 2023, 3:05 PM

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it's actually quiite fun to mod this game, the mechanics allow for far more that the devs intended

oblique tree Apr 6, 2023, 3:29 PM

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i noticed by the mods i've seen so far even before the game is fully released

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that's insane

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btw quick question, do you happen to know what mods might conflict with "Creative Mode" mod, i wanted to try some sandboxing but it keeps crashing

shell fiber Apr 6, 2023, 3:43 PM

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hmm... i don't know how it works exactly but if it doesn't work with other factions it likely won't with mine

oblique tree Apr 6, 2023, 8:14 PM

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yea im still trying to figure out why this is happening

radiant heart Apr 7, 2023, 2:25 AM

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power finaly back, time to see if i can survive that 27 days drought ( cycle 15) died once before the power went out and couldn't try again, might give it one or 2 tries again, if that is survivable, means that hard mode is kinda doable , and doable on an easier map

shell fiber Apr 7, 2023, 9:53 AM

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i'm quickly getting annoyed at how inefficient water pumping is. you have a dam, plenty of water, and yet everyone is thirsty because not enough pumps. but i don't want to have 50% of my damned village be composed of water pumps so i'll get that upgrade done

silver phoenix Apr 7, 2023, 10:09 AM

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maybe you should consider the ability to extract juice from trees, which can be used as a substitute for water

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would fit right into your overhaul mod

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or use carrots to make carrot juice

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things like that

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berry juice?

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apple trees to produce apple juice

shell fiber Apr 7, 2023, 10:42 AM

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i alrady have carrot and berry juice, but i don't want them to be stoable goods...for now.
my issue is that i have like 12 pumps for 130 beavers, and yet i just can't fill my damn reserves.😓

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okay, actually 11 pumps for 150 beavers, but still

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more pumps just make too much pointless population

shell fiber Apr 7, 2023, 11:37 AM

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i mean, i always meant to have some more powerful pump (similarily to the large farmhouse and mushroom growers) but i know how annoying the pump-like buildings can be to mod, and no mistake here, that's a pain in the ass

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at last !

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silver phoenix Apr 7, 2023, 12:19 PM

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that took you a good 4 minutes 😂

shell fiber Apr 7, 2023, 12:26 PM

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i was on it for the last hour actually 😅

carmine dragon Apr 7, 2023, 12:32 PM

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The Japanese translation has finally been completed!
There are some issues such as unnatural line breaks, but they are trivial and I think it is of sufficient quality.
Issue found: Giant buried tank and Smelter do not have the Fancy blueprint version of lockey.

📎 jaJP.txt

shell fiber Apr 7, 2023, 12:45 PM

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damn ! that was fast ! 😲

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thanks !

carmine dragon Apr 7, 2023, 12:45 PM

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i was on it for the last day actually beaver

shell fiber Apr 7, 2023, 12:55 PM

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you spend the whole day doing this ? no need to rush 😅
is the japanese youtube channel yours by anychance ?

carmine dragon Apr 7, 2023, 12:56 PM

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It's a different person. He seems to be planning to finish the series soon, so I wanted to let his listeners know that the Japanese translation is complete by translating it into Japanese before he does so.

shell fiber Apr 7, 2023, 1:08 PM

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oh, i see !

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thanks, with any luck that will lead a few more people to play it 🙂

heavy lodge Apr 7, 2023, 1:09 PM

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YA, more people in hell (water hell) 👹

shell fiber Apr 7, 2023, 1:39 PM

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carmine dragon It's a different person. He seems to be planning to finish the series soon, so I...

i'm just finished with my water pumps upgrades, so i'll try to roll out an update ASAP
i might have a dozen new entries though

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Lapantouflemagic.DeepWaterPumpUpgrade.Description    An upgrade module to be placed between two adjacent deep water pumps <color=#00FFFF>Watertight building</color>
Lapantouflemagic.DeepWaterPumpUpgrade.FlavorDescription    We can make a full dam out of this ! -Toothless the wise, beaver elder
Lapantouflemagic.waterpumpUpgrade.DisplayName    Water pump Upgrade
Lapantouflemagic.waterpumpUpgrade.Description    An upgrade module to be placed between two adjacent water pumps <color=#00FFFF>Watertight building</color>
Lapantouflemagic.waterpumpUpgrade.FlavorDescription    If only the pump wasn’t so short…

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those pump upgrades clearly call for a tiny dam block to finish the side of the pump, otherwise you can make a wall of it, but never complete the corners

carmine dragon Apr 7, 2023, 1:49 PM

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Nice!

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Here's what it says there.
I'm worried that I can't test it because sometimes it crashes because of commas.

Lapantouflemagic.DeepWaterPumpUpgrade.Description,隣接する2台の汲水ポンプ（深水）の間に設置するアップグレードモジュール。\r\n<color=#00FFFF>水を通さない建物</color>,"An upgrade module to be placed between two adjacent deep water pumps <color=#00FFFF>Watertight building</color>"
Lapantouflemagic.DeepWaterPumpUpgrade.FlavorDescription,「これでダムは完璧なものになる！」—歯無しの賢者,"We can make a full dam out of this ! -Toothless the wise, beaver elder"
Lapantouflemagic.waterpumpUpgrade.DisplayName,汲水ポンプ（アップグレード）,"Water pump Upgrade"
Lapantouflemagic.waterpumpUpgrade.Description,隣接する2台の汲水ポンプの間に設置するアップグレードモジュール。\r\n<color=#00FFFF>水を通さない建物</color>,"An upgrade module to be placed between two adjacent water pumps <color=#00FFFF>Watertight building</color>"
Lapantouflemagic.waterpumpUpgrade.FlavorDescription,ポンプさえ短くなければなぁ……,"If only the pump wasn’t so short…"

shell fiber Apr 7, 2023, 2:37 PM

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And a few more

Lapantouflemagic.DeepWaterpumpupgradewallsegment.DisplayName    Deep water pump upgrade terminal segment    -    
Lapantouflemagic.DeepWaterpumpupgradewallsegment.Description    A watertight structure to block off the extremity of a chain of deep water pumps. <color=#00FFFF>Watertight building</color>    -    
Lapantouflemagic.DeepWaterpumpupgradewallsegment.FlavorDescription    We make our dams the proper way, we’re not savages !    -    
Lapantouflemagic.Waterpumpupgradewallsegment.DisplayName    Water pump upgrade terminal segment    -    
Lapantouflemagic.Waterpumpupgradewallsegment.Description    A watertight structure to block off the extremity of a chain of water pumps. <color=#00FFFF>Watertight building</color>    -    
Lapantouflemagic.Waterpumpupgradewallsegment.FlavorDescription    What if we just build that without the pump to block… Nah, that’s a silly idea !    -

carmine dragon Apr 7, 2023, 2:42 PM

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Oops, I'm in the middle of a bath and my hands are tied, so don't worry about it, just update👍

shell fiber Apr 7, 2023, 2:49 PM

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ahah, no worries

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i'm still poking at stuff

shell fiber Apr 7, 2023, 3:11 PM

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It works !

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oh wait, water can go even higher

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holding tight

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i'm actually pretty happy with this thing ! looks nicer than i thought it would

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nothing imploded after adding the japanese text file

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let's try to put my game in japanese then

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seems all good, let's get that rolling

shell fiber Apr 7, 2023, 4:05 PM

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Updated Billboards too !

carmine dragon Apr 7, 2023, 4:28 PM

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shell fiber And a few more ```Lapantouflemagic.NewWaterPump.Description Pumps and filter...

Maybe this is good.

Lapantouflemagic.DeepWaterpumpupgradewallsegment.DisplayName,深水汲水ポンプ（アップグレード）末端用,-"Deep water pump upgrade terminal segment"
Lapantouflemagic.DeepWaterpumpupgradewallsegment.Description,連続して設置された汲水ポンプ（深水）の端っこに建設するポンプ。\r\n<color=#00FFFF>水を通さない建物</color>,-"A watertight structure to block off the extremity of a chain of deep water pumps. <color=#00FFFF>Watertight building</color>"
Lapantouflemagic.DeepWaterpumpupgradewallsegment.FlavorDescription,もう泥と丸太でダムを作るような原始人じゃない。我々はちゃんとしたダムを作る文明人だ！,-"We make our dams the proper way, we’re not savages !"
Lapantouflemagic.Waterpumpupgradewallsegment.DisplayName,汲水ポンプ（アップグレード）末端用,-"Water pump upgrade terminal segment"
Lapantouflemagic.Waterpumpupgradewallsegment.Description,連続して設置された汲水ポンプの端っこに建設するポンプ。\r\n<color=#00FFFF>水を通さない建物</color>,-"A watertight structure to block off the extremity of a chain of water pumps. <color=#00FFFF>Watertight building</color>"   
Lapantouflemagic.Waterpumpupgradewallsegment.FlavorDescription,ポンプの部分をオミットすれば、貯水ダムになるんじゃ……？なんてね。あり得ない妄想だ。,-"What if we just build that without the pump to block… Nah, that’s a silly idea !"```

shell fiber Apr 7, 2023, 4:30 PM

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thanks !

distant wigeon Apr 7, 2023, 4:51 PM

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Oh my god, we're getting eggplants in Update 4.

shell fiber Apr 7, 2023, 4:52 PM

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ahah, not a chance, i hate eggplants 😅

distant wigeon Apr 7, 2023, 4:53 PM

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I do too, but maybe the beavers will like them?

shell fiber Apr 7, 2023, 4:53 PM

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if i put them in they will definitely have the "yuck debuff" 🤭

distant wigeon Apr 7, 2023, 4:53 PM

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Wait, can beavers even eat eggplants?

shell fiber Apr 7, 2023, 4:53 PM

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i guess 🤔
from what i googled, any soft plant matter is fair game to them

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but time to sleep for me !
have fun with the new pump upgrades, i think 'ill roll a new map because that changes a lot how i would build my town.

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(tomorrow)

distant wigeon Apr 7, 2023, 4:57 PM

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Good night!

carmine dragon Apr 7, 2023, 7:09 PM

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carmine dragon Maybe this is good. ```Lapantouflemagic.NewWaterPump.Description,飲料用に水を汲み上げ、ろ過する...

Unfortunately this was not good ShrugFT
For some reason, the game crashes when I use this
So please overwrite with this file
It was fortunate that the submission was late and not reflected in the update beaver

📎 jaJP.txt

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Also, seems to be missing Lockey

shell fiber Apr 8, 2023, 1:04 AM

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Oopsie 😅

shell fiber Apr 8, 2023, 11:50 AM

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hmm... somehow せふ got a crash because of the pumpkins, not sure what happened

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found the bug, i had corrected it, but the re-made it by mistake 😅

carmine dragon Apr 8, 2023, 12:55 PM

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Will you be updating soon? ThinkingF

shell fiber Apr 8, 2023, 12:58 PM

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well yes it's an important bug fix so i want i rolling asap

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in the meantime i have added the missing dam upgrade key:

Lapantouflemagic.primitivedam3x3Utilityupgrade.Description    Upgrade of the utility dam, Acts as a floodgate. <color=green>Overrides base dam when water is higher than 0.5m </color>
Lapantouflemagic.primitivedam3x3Utilityupgrade.FlavorDescription    Behold the incredible power of sticks and glue ! And screws, planks and proper plannig of course.```

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oh i just saw that you added the missing fancy keys for the fancy blueprints ! thanks ! i added the right key in the item specification

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and fixed the english of course

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the files you had were broken somehow, the last column must only contain a dash (-) to indicate the line is over

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but i fixed it pretty easy

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i love your translations thought ! really nice !

carmine dragon Apr 8, 2023, 1:11 PM

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Ah, now I know why
Here is the new file
Most importantly, I didn't realize that the faction descriptions had been updated and were out of date, so I changed them.
This removed the "unoccupied or flooded buildings will be destroyed" information and added the recommended map information instead

📎 jaJP.txt

shell fiber Apr 8, 2023, 1:40 PM

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oh i see, i didn't check for that.

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thanks, i'll test it right now

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okay seems all good, uploading in 5 min

shell fiber Apr 8, 2023, 2:43 PM

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(it's uploaded)

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i'm going to upload the pumpkin standalone mod, anyone up for testing ?

carmine dragon Apr 8, 2023, 2:54 PM

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I was wondering why the happiness totals don't add up
There may be an error in NeedSpecification.Beaver.Disgustingfood.original.json
It's a negative need, so when it's met, it should make the beavers unhappy, and when it's not met, it shouldn't affect their happiness

shell fiber Apr 8, 2023, 3:12 PM

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ooh i see

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i'll check

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in the meantime :
#1094279087553523722 posted !

carmine dragon Apr 8, 2023, 3:19 PM

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Also, there was a comment that a library cannot be built because "you need a screw press to build a library, which is a facility to generate science points, but you need science points for the screw press"

shell fiber Apr 8, 2023, 3:20 PM

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carmine dragon Also, there was a comment that a library cannot be built because "you need a scr...

hmm... well yes but i can only do so much for people who don't read text :/

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i specifically made the faction description say "check the billboards" and the one that explains how to get the cauldron, book set, and anvil is litterally the second one in a tab marked as "important information" 😅

carmine dragon Apr 8, 2023, 3:26 PM

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Hmm, for example, maybe write in the description of the Broken expedition cart that "items will come out when demolished"? ShrugFT

shell fiber Apr 8, 2023, 3:28 PM

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carmine dragon Hmm, for example, maybe write in the description of the Broken expedition cart t...

hmm... yeah, good idea 👍

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no guarantee that people will read the description of the broken kart though 😅

heavy lodge Apr 8, 2023, 3:30 PM

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It's guarantee that will not read . 😮

carmine dragon Apr 8, 2023, 3:32 PM

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Yeah, it might be redundant ThinkingF

shell fiber Apr 8, 2023, 3:38 PM

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it is also written in the mod description actually

silver phoenix Apr 8, 2023, 3:40 PM

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dont expect people to read a wall of text 😅

shell fiber Apr 8, 2023, 3:40 PM

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true 😅

heavy lodge Apr 8, 2023, 3:41 PM

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silver phoenix dont expect people to read a wall of text 😅

well, you can not read the laws, but, still gets convicted if you don't respect them ....

silver phoenix Apr 8, 2023, 4:35 PM

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yeah... but we're talking about a game here...

heavy lodge Apr 8, 2023, 4:38 PM

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Me too 😄 Just that in this case, if you don't read, the beavers will die 👹

silver phoenix Apr 8, 2023, 4:41 PM

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my point is, that if there is a key piece of information needed to progress in the game, you might want to reconsider hiding it in a wall of text, or behind a mandatory building order

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it should be more obvious, in some shape or form

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because clearly if multiple people come back with the same feedback, its not obvious enough

heavy lodge Apr 8, 2023, 4:43 PM

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It can the in the description when selecting the new faction to play, but ... , will all players read ?

fair wolf Apr 8, 2023, 5:21 PM

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Ngl, I asked this exact question about a month ago. Lol. 😂 This mod is a pretty intricately woven web of game mechanics that I spent about 3 hours unraveling. Still don't know what I'm doing. Kinda set it off to the side for now until I get the urge to punish myself. Lol

heavy lodge Apr 8, 2023, 5:25 PM

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Well, then, if a player game becomes death with this faction, then must conclude that the player don't know to read 😮 Except if it plays in hard mode 🥳

silver phoenix Apr 8, 2023, 6:11 PM

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🤷

fair wolf Apr 8, 2023, 11:28 PM

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I'm not entirely sure there is a good way to go about informing people. The only way you could be sure that people know is by making some in game tutorial. But thats not possible currently, or at least that's what I've been told before.

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I mean, you people have done all you can do just about. If people aren't reading things when its plastered almost everywhere, it's kind of their fault honestly. Lol.

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I did actually try the billboards, used dev mod to place them down. But they didn't really say anything useful. At least at the time I tried over a month ago. Maybe I messed it up. Who knows.

radiant heart Apr 9, 2023, 12:39 AM

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shell fiber more pumps just make too much pointless population

Are you complaining about the mess you created ? 🤣

radiant heart Apr 9, 2023, 12:41 AM

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shell fiber

That look awesome! the way i usually rack pumps on the shore it's a perfect fit ! Nice one! LoveIT

radiant heart Apr 9, 2023, 12:45 AM

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shell fiber i specifically made the faction description say "check the billboards" and the o...

thing about this one is the need to build a smalll wharehouse so they use it when deleting the kart. not really intuitive too look in the rubish to find those precious things and think that you need the warehouse so someone will pick it up before it is used to built

shell fiber Apr 9, 2023, 12:52 AM

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radiant heart thing about this one is the need to build a smalll wharehouse so they use it whe...

Hmm... 🤔 that's true

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That could be a billboard

shell fiber Apr 9, 2023, 1:00 AM

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fair wolf I did actually try the billboards, used dev mod to place them down. But they did...

Maybe you were using the old version, it was quite a mess

fair wolf Apr 9, 2023, 1:36 AM

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shell fiber Maybe you were using the old version, it was quite a mess

It's quite possible. Lol. Like I said, that was about a month or more ago. I'll have to try it out again here soon. Currently up to my neck in things to do in this game. Haha

radiant heart Apr 10, 2023, 4:15 AM

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is it intended that the irrigation tower doesn't work uphill?

shell fiber Apr 10, 2023, 6:18 AM

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uuhh, i didn't change that behavior so i suppose so.

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it's been a while since i didn't play properly, 'ill stream a new game i guess 🙂

shell fiber Apr 10, 2023, 6:38 AM

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oh this "foot of the mountain" map is pretty interesting to play on

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especially with this faction

shell fiber Apr 10, 2023, 9:50 AM

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Tar and PineResin are now listed in the "construction material" tab (formerly logs only)

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The broken kart will also drop 5 explosives (3 on hard mode) to help settle maps with very rugged terrain

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oh, i had forgot the "disgustingfood" debuff that was inverted accidentally ! enjoy your +3 happyness !

carmine dragon Apr 10, 2023, 11:26 AM

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Did you by any chance comment on the せふ video? ThinkingF
Maybe people may not pay attention to it because no one realizes you are the author of the mod.
You can easily get their attention by using the following format beaver

このMODの作者です。
日本でも人気が出たの嬉しい😄
ちなみに(-Here is what you want to tell せふ)

He also has a Twitter account
https://twitter.com/sef_yukkuri/status/1644717938010914817?s=46&t=0bU3PZgr4GIxfEyn9j

せふ / ゆっくり実況 (@SeF_Yukkuri)

Timberbornでプレイ中MODの更新ログが私がデバッグしてるみたいになってたｗ

shell fiber Apr 10, 2023, 11:50 AM

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carmine dragon Did you by any chance comment on the せふ video?<:ThinkingF:913808774458916895> M...

yeah that was me 🙂

shell fiber Apr 10, 2023, 1:20 PM

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I added what was obviously lacking : comic books and a comics space in the library HappyF

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(i mostly wanted an excuse for people to keep the copist and artist around when not using them)

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now the copist can copy library books that will eventually allow for a second library

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and the artist makes comic books

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comic books will likely be used for trading, and also to build manga cafés or stuff like that

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that will refill a "comic book" need

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It's a shape that i'll be losing the amazing lockkey of the librarian office though 😅

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i'll think about something...

radiant heart Apr 11, 2023, 12:20 AM

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shell fiber The broken kart will also drop 5 explosives (3 on hard mode) to help settle maps...

8 would be nice to get a "free" lido irrigation early 😉

shell fiber Apr 11, 2023, 12:22 AM

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😈

#Water Beaver Overhaul