Raw Input for Linux.

[severe swan]

This is a (vanilla) feature in newer versions of the game so it'd be nice to see in Lunar Client's Raw Input option for 1.7 - 1.12.

The current library (jinput) isn't capable of raw input on linux, so I doubt I'll see this feature soon but I'd still love to see it in sometime in the future.

[tight wyvern]

it's already in lunar

[severe swan]

only for windows

be a better helper /j

[tight wyvern]

does it not work for linux

[severe swan]

it does not

[ornate crystal]

and even on windows its dogsh*t compared to other clients. if you open up any menu, move the cursor, then close it, the aim will slightly snap to the direction you moved the mouse to - any fast gamemode is unplayable and be real - is there anything slow nowadays being played on these versions? these versions are still being played on because theyre awesome in fast gameplay. i have reported this to lunar like 2 years ago at this point and they just told me its a low priority issue

[severe swan]

yeah

thats extremely easy to fix

[ornate crystal]

Cosmetics more important 🥀💔

And i wont even talk about the fact most of the lunar staff doesnt even know what raw input does and they think its just "windows acceleration bypass"

[violet parrot]

tbf the support for lunar client on linux is really poor especially for distros like arch and fedora

[stiff zodiac]

its in lunar settings

[stiff zodiac]

WHO TF said its poor

if you mean community support i am here

i also use arch btw

you could just use AUR in arch to install lunar

yay -S lunar-client

[severe swan]

no its not.

if you use arch then you'd know lunar doesnt offer raw input for linux

[severe swan]

agreed

[severe swan]

the package is outdated pretty often

Lunar Client's Raw Input is only for WINDOWS. The library they use only supports WINDOWS (as I mentioned in the suggestion)

find the raw input (99% of users fail!)

[stiff zodiac]

i don't use raw mouse input

[stiff zodiac]

nah using yay -Syu

updates it

[tight wyvern]

is arch happy?

why is he saying yay?

[stiff zodiac]

It's a command

@tight wyvern ye arch is happy

[violet parrot]

its a package manager

[violet parrot]

Yes, doesn't mean it has proper support for example for nvidia support with newer gpus you have to edit the launcher arguments

[stiff zodiac]

Oh

But wht do you think they should do

[tight wyvern]

ik i'm just kidding

[ornate crystal]

People who dont care about raw input either use a $5 mouse or are clearly ignorant, this is a game changer on pre 1.14 i think? and it should be added/fixed on windows ASAP, but what can we expect from a client where 80% of staff doesnt know whats raw input and "why their game stutters so much when they aim"

[severe swan]

....

I'm not new to arch, the issue isnt that I don't try to update

the arch package is sometimes nearly 24 hours (or even longer!) behind the actual launcher

I'm assuming it's managed unofficially because there is 0 reason for an officially managed package to be so far behind.

[severe swan]

preach

[violet parrot]

facts 💀

[violet parrot]

its community managed iirc

lunar client manages their appimage on their website and thats it

the support thou for other distros is really poor like fedora or nix 😔

arch is lucky to get updates or be on the aur

[stiff zodiac]

wht do you expect from AUR

appimage is the only one official managed

then theres flatpak which they do say its an option but i don't think its the official one

[severe swan]

for it to be updated??

[stiff zodiac]

ye but isn't it a community made

[severe swan]

it is

[stiff zodiac]

obv its gonna take time

alredy got the new update

idk wht your taking abt bh

[stiff zodiac]

btw just a ques haave you ever tried pywal

i kinda need help so

[severe swan]

no

[stiff zodiac]

oh

[violet parrot]

and this shows my point the official support for linux is very poor for lunar client especially if its community managed and not managed by Moonsworth themselves

[ornate crystal]

Most of the 1.8 sweats use windows, if someone uses lunar on linux/macos just because its nice on newer versions then tbh... they should stop, everytime i wanted to play on a newer version with lunar i got less fps than on a normal fabric and well everytime there was an awesome mod which was incompatible with lunar. im somewhat happy i never bought any cosmetics on lunar

[stiff zodiac]

ever tried linux?

i am a 1.8 main using arch

[violet parrot]

i am also a 1.8 main that yses linux

[stiff zodiac]

and i am bugged with a bug where i cannot press shift +2

also btw as a linux user i am saying it myself
the mc linux community is super small

so tbh could be the reason linux is ignored

[severe swan]

lunar has so little Linux users because if you're using Linux you've probably realized that forge is better

[stiff zodiac]

I haven't faced any issues in lunars arch version and it gives me way more fps than forge

[severe swan]

you don't have the right mods then

that's like saying vanilla gives more fps than sodium 🥀

[stiff zodiac]

dude for some lunar runs best and for some forge does

[severe swan]

that's not how that works

[stiff zodiac]

tell how it works then : )

show wht mods you even us

use* also do you even have forge mods equivalent to cps fps etc of lunars

[severe swan]

Performance mods:

• OptiFine by sp614x
• PolyPatcher by Polyfrost
• Entity Culling by tr7zw

HUD:

• EvergreenHUD by Polyfrost (cps, fps, coords, etc)
• VanillaHUD by Polyfrost (scoreboard, hotbar, etc)
• Chat by chromatic (chat)
• PolyCrosshair by Polyfrost (crosshair)

QOL / Util:

• Animatium Legacy by Legacy Visuals Project (1.7 animations) (pretty much required, I love 1.7 animations)
• Freelook by chromatic (freelook / perspective)
• RawInput by chromatic (raw mouse input) (linux support is being worked on 👀)
• GlintColorizer by Polyfrost (changes the colors of enchantment glint)
• CrashPatch by Polyfrost (stops the game from crashing)

all of them are available on modrinth with the exception of OptiFine which is only available on their own website

[stiff zodiac]

k will tell you my performance tommorow

[ornate crystal]

Of course

Im still on windows as a main os however for me the forge gives the most fps in flat world/no players scenarios, and when there are a lot of players the blc is the best

[stiff zodiac]

which one?

also i asked ages ago

[ornate crystal]

arch, manjaro, zorin, ubuntu, mint

[ornate crystal]

yeah ik

[stiff zodiac]

nice

[ornate crystal]

sorry for that, i just didnt check this channel

[stiff zodiac]

its ok

tbh i have no hate for windows it just because i care performance more

and linux gives me that

for some obv windows might be better in performance and other stuff

[ornate crystal]

the only reason why windows is trash is its current situation with bloatware adware etc, other than that its really awesome that current os can run really old apps

[stiff zodiac]

ye

[lean elbow]

yeah for some its better, for some its not, depends on your setup I guess

[stiff zodiac]

who tf wants recall

[lean elbow]

what mods do you use tho?

[stiff zodiac]

lunar?

[lean elbow]

what mods do you use tho?

[stiff zodiac]

cps and fps mostly

[gusty portal]

lunar is dogshit and doesnt have lwjgl3

you can use axolotl client which is an ornithe mod or badlion or wait for spice(lwjgl3 mod for forge)

i think badlion has lwjgl3 at least

[stiff zodiac]

they did say they will upgrade

btw rn lunar has badlion

[gusty portal]

this doesnt mean anything though

they are still completely different clients with different code

when they reach "feature parity" theyre just going to kill it off because it doesnt make them money even though lunar is just a worst product

[severe swan]

ornithe isn't a fork of legacy fabric

[stiff zodiac]

could mean that it could help them upgrade

ye it would mean that as it might be expensive to handle 2 clients

[severe swan]

it wont

[stiff zodiac]

nvm that would be dumb

[severe swan]

they won't have any meaningful improvements from blc because lunar is already extremely unoptimized

blc's improvements on lunar would be like a bandaid over a missing limb

[severe swan]

axolotl client isn't great but it's pretty good, I'd just recommend waiting for a bit

oneconfig's suite of mods will be ported to legacy fabric (and hopefully ornithe although it's not confirmed) which will make a way better experience than lunar client

[gusty portal]

mb i thought it was

[gusty portal]

I thought they were porting to ornithe instead of LF

[severe swan]

unfortunately they don't know which to pick, I suggested both because it's not much more effort

[gusty portal]

possibly ornithe

[severe swan]

that's for onelauncher

idk if Oneconfig is gonna have ornithe or not

[gusty portal]

Ornithe and LF are essentially the same thing no?

[severe swan]

kinda?

they use different mappings which means their mods aren't compatible

and they have different "standard libraries"

but I think they're planning on using the same mappings in the future so that their mods work together

they both use fabric loader ofc, and ornithe has the optional choice of using quilt loader

so they're pretty similar with minor differences that cause them to not work with each other

[gusty portal]

Hopefully they support both when they release

[severe swan]

mhm

[kindred swift]

doesn't x11 fix that

or xwayland although may not be stable