essentials support

[dull valve]

since this client is so scared of giving free cosmetics let me have a mod here that give free cosmetics

[last estuary]

Either shoot, or either break

[dull valve]

?

[dull valve]

could you explain. im stupid

[daring pilot]

essential mod has its cosmetics thing, and so does lunar

and it does a lot of modifications which conflict with existing lunar code, causing issues and crashes

follow this thread: https://discord.com/channels/555932873798975568/1305288676519055482

[dull valve]

thats is why im asking them to fix it

[daring pilot]

this is nearly impossible

[dull valve]

well frick

[daring pilot]

yeah, essential heavily modifies how the game works

[quaint hornet]

essential is a hacked client, do not use

[daring pilot]

it is not

there's the essential mod everyone uses, and a separate open source Essentials Client which is a cheat

[covert elm]

This has been suggested many times before, and I do not think we'll ever have compatibility with a rival mod/"client"

[dull valve]

okay

[mellow plover]

Feather somehow has compatibility with essential, and also has its own cosmetics, and essential cosmetics compared to lunar are vanilla style, not high resolution

[covert elm]

You're free to use Essential on it's own if you prefer it.

[raven vector]

Also Lunar has most of the features what essential has such as the main reason why they use it world hosting

On sorry zuxt the response was for @dull valve

[quaint hornet]

i mean adding a modding library to lunar would also be a blessing

thats also a reason people use essential over lunar

[raven vector]

Yeh , that's why some people work on something

[quaint hornet]

i mean official support

even if it’s access to basic data such as text commands

skyblock players like forge as you can use mods but lunar forge is a meme as it’s awful

[raven vector]

Nope 😞 they'll support it in the future

[quaint hornet]

is there a public version available

which actually works

if there is, idm porting mods myself

[raven vector]

Well can't say much I wrote wayback a suggestion trentin said ye

[daring pilot]

no, there's no build at all that supports modloading for forge

it was confirmed that it will be possible in the future

and it's possibly being worked on at the moment

[quaint hornet]

there's an option but it SUCKS, only one mod works

[daring pilot]

what do you mean by "option"

a forge option does exist, but there's no lunar+forge build that has custom modloading enabled

[quaint hornet]

exactly, if they actually made it work, a lot of people would switch from Essential which is (imo) a really cancerous client as it likes to do annoying stuff like self install

[daring pilot]

it's not that simple

fabric has hundreds of patches for mods, due to conflicts that cause an instant crash on start

they have no patches implemented for forge

pretty sure no custom mod will work without hardcoded patches for each

[quaint hornet]

You're wrong, a lot of forge mods work fine together and unless mods use mixins, none should have issues with each other provided they don't use the same names for commands

[daring pilot]

mods use mixins, and so does lunar

[quaint hornet]

mixins is highly discouraged as it modifies internal code

[daring pilot]

the interface of lunar and such are done by mixins

i believe that's how the emotes work too

they're separate mods themselves

[quaint hornet]

i'm well aware but a simple mod should be fine with existing lunar

[daring pilot]

yeah, but people add popular mods, not simple mods

[quaint hornet]

but not all popular mods like to mess with mixins

[daring pilot]

that's true

[quaint hornet]

mods like SBA do

[daring pilot]

i'm aware

[quaint hornet]

but the average mod only really adds listeners to the render overlay event

or has some custom rendering

so implementing a basic version of forge with mixins disabled would allow such an option

since lunar injects its self into the core client, it shouldn't be too hard to also inject some forge code

[daring pilot]

yeah true, but that's for Moonsworth to decide

[quaint hornet]

I mean there's already projects which do this

they can literally just fork it

[daring pilot]

that's probably what they're gonna do

[quaint hornet]

I hope so 👍

[dull valve]

i mean ye but lunar is better for pvp purposes because the feather kb is kinda bad tbh and idk why but i can get better mace combos with lunar

[mellow plover]

I personally prefer feather, because I have more fps with fps mods + most mods work unlike lunar (e.g. essential) and somehow combat is better for me there xd

[dull valve]

ye lunar is trash with mod combatability and i dont know how we both got different pvp experience on clients i will prob test the full fps mods and see wich one ill choose

[mellow plover]

I have about 80 mods for optimization and QoL on Feather, and when I test the same ones on Lunar, unfortunately 1/4 of them don't work

[pseudo jewel]

Youre right, they domt want free cosmetics, SO ALTEAST DO A STOOPID multiplayer mod. Like, aternos is s*it

[daring pilot]

they alr have one..

"Hosted Worlds"

[pseudo jewel]

yeah but isnt that anly for local area network (lan)? If it isnt so, then im a big ignorant.

[daring pilot]

no, it's not

it creates a proxy where anybody can join

even non-lunar players

[pseudo jewel]

ooh well thank you man

i really needed that

[daring pilot]

of course

[pseudo jewel]

appreciate it

and merry christmas?

!

[dull valve]

idk how but i the thing that comes to mind is the lunar settings or in game settings