start banning cheaters

[wheat arch]

1.7/1.8 ranked is unplayable

[calm canyon]

Dawg

That's not even possible

U need an Ai Anti cheat system and even that it's not possible to track if someone is cheating or not

DMA Cheating as an example

Other big games have proofed this

[errant minnow]

Lunar Client doesn’t want an AntiCheat :)

[wheat arch]

Lunar had ac and they could Still ban known cheaters

[calm canyon]

Won't work anyways

They can't hardware ban ppl and if there tools

^-^ they would need bann directly the acc and the location of the device

STILL WONT Work

and banning knowing cheaters would cause trouble for false assuming

[wheat gulch]

lunar is much more diverse now, it's not just a client for competitive pvp stuff anymore, my little brother's school friends use it for just smp stuff cause of the play together feature

it's also supported on more platforms than it was back then, client side anticheats don't really work on platforms besides windows

osx doesn't allow you to integrate at the kernel level anymore, they discontinued kernel extensions (kexts), and linux is super open by design and has a culture and community that embraces open source, which isn't compatible with an anticheat

[calm canyon]

😭

[wheat gulch]

u cant have an open source anticheat, it has to be a closed box thing that no one understands the inner mechanisms of, otherwise you'll just have wide open bypasses

[calm canyon]

I mean ai could just calculate if it is humanity or not

Ai Anti cheat

[wheat gulch]

its a lot more complicated than that

some things can be done with machine learning models but it would be stupid to try and detect movement cheats for example with AI

AI works best for heuristic checks like aimbot and kill aura stuff

and even then it's not a magic solution it will still not be effective all the time

[calm canyon]

....

Still is one of the best possible to fix some problems however

but would not be effective

[wheat gulch]

some problems it will work good for yeah but it wont ever be the best solution in terms of like detection rate, check VAC + their AI overwatch thingy vs FACEIT

and there's so many different types of ML and algorithms, some of which will be better for some things than others

[potent cedar]

dog server, dog anticheat

[trim pivot]

vac is horrible never talk about it again

[trim pivot]

no?