Make Mini Modding Punishable

[modern stump]

Mini modding has been an issue within this server for a while. Not only does it annoy users within the discord but it also interrupts conversations and leads to problems such as arguments. There shouldn't be a need to mini mod as there's already staff which are here to literally enforce the rules, nobody else needs to do it

[unreal gorge]

PLEASE

[hollow heath]

#VOTEFORTHECHANGE

[modern stump]

I think my suggestion is good gang

[neon mist]

this suggestion is factual and gold!

#voteforthechange

[naive belfry]

lol yes

this targeting melon though

[unreal gorge]

🤫🤫🤫

no it isn’t it is a general statement

[neon mist]

🤫

[hollow heath]

Fr (trust)

[modern stump]

no there's a literal group of people who mini mod im not joking

1 of them got muted and he's gone inactive for a while

[naive belfry]

lol what

[modern stump]

its wild

[hollow heath]

does their name end with an r

[unreal gorge]

does their name start with a b

[modern stump]

yuh

[modern stump]

potentially

there may also be one starting with a z

[brave hollow]

what is wrong with minimodding bruh

[unreal gorge]

not only is it annoying in general

but it also makes people mad bc there is staff for a reason

and when ur trying to have a conversation and someone comes in and says “erm please don’t swear #📖︱rules “

that’s annoying and unnecessary

[hollow heath]

Minimodding also has the ability to ruin a joke

[unreal gorge]

^

[hollow heath]

Which sucks tbh 👍

[unreal gorge]

and when some people just chat to minimod

[brave hollow]

i dont have a problem with it

[unreal gorge]

and that’s a you thing

[brave hollow]

yeah, and u have a problem with it is a u thing too

[unreal gorge]

yeah but clearly more people have a problem with it

[naive belfry]

i see xi suggestion, i like it

go like my free fred suggetion

[modern stump]

perhaps read the description of the thread

kinda summarises it all

[naive belfry]

yuh oh

xi get ready

[versed arrow]

ths can also lead to misunderstantig by a staff member

[modern stump]

those are 2 unrelated points?

a staff member has nothing to do with a joke

im confused on what ur point is

[hollow heath]

I never said any other thing other than "english only", but regarding some people who find doing this funny or do this to farm xp, whatever reason, ruin a convo in the middle of it.
Imagine you're talking to a best friend who you know for a long time already, then someone jumps in and asks you to stop talking like that as it's inappropiate or disrespectul (I've actually seen this many times, not an imagination)

[modern stump]

happened to me

[versed arrow]

u can also do that in dms so joking with a good freand

[unreal gorge]

so why have a discord server

if u have dms!

[hallow linden]

🔥

[hollow heath]

Not everytime it's two people talking, sometimes there are groups of people

[modern stump]

nobodys willing to go to their dms to make a joke

[hollow heath]

LMAO 💀 💀

[unreal gorge]

xi check dms rq I gotta tell u this joke

[versed arrow]

why discord add grupe chat

[modern stump]

for people who want to make groupchats.

[naive belfry]

me omw to dms to say a silly thing

[hollow heath]

So basically the reason you chat in a server

[naive belfry]

me oqau

[hollow heath]

Like the actual point of it

Is to meet new people

[unreal gorge]

reals

[dreamy osprey]

Don't break the rules, easy. Lunar has too few staff, and they don't respond as fast as a non-staff user can.

[modern stump]

staff issue punishments thats the whole reason why they "mod" mini modding does absolutely nothing it wont stop someone from breaking the rules, mods do that.

[dreamy osprey]

Most of the time, a ping from a user is what alerts staff to a problem

[modern stump]

also breaking the rules has nothing to do with this people will mini mod unironically everything, I called a person "dumb" as a joke which was pretty obvious and someone still managed to @ me and link the rules channel despite me not doing anything

[naive belfry]

thats so very silly

[dreamy osprey]

Its also not mini modding if you are informing someone of something, its discord, people make mistakes and do things without thinking. I'd much prefer to be told the rule by some random, then be muted for a week

[naive belfry]

i think we should go further and make modding punishable

just let the lunar bot do its thing

[dreamy osprey]

Thats called a ✨ troll ✨

[modern stump]

aint a troll when they literally mean it

[dreamy osprey]

Staff mods
Lunar bot bans staff for modding

[naive belfry]

funjny

[dreamy osprey]

Then its just a dumb person. Ignore them, did you really just make a suggestion because you couldn't ignore dumb people on the internet?

[versed arrow]

Uhm actually that's true not gona lie if you just remember someone

[modern stump]

I mean if they're doing it several times over it gets irritating over a while thats the whole reason for this thread. Its happened several times thats the whole reason I bothered making this thread

its become irritating

[dreamy osprey]

Uhm actually
||this is legally a joke||

[versed arrow]

U can not see everything as minimoding if u just remember someone about rules

And I agree with Husky in this point

[dreamy osprey]

If they are spamming or harassing, use /report and block them. Don't make it our problem by making a suggestion.

[modern stump]

It isn't your problem. You chose to involve urself with this thread similar to ur point u could've chose to ignore it

[dreamy osprey]

So you don't want to use /report and block people that are breaking the rules?

[modern stump]

Could say the exact same thing to the people that chose to mini mod, they can just /report instead of having to constantly irritate people about it

[neon prism]

you said "don't make it our problem by making a suggestion", you dont own the suggestions channel. its not your problem, thats partly what he was trying to say

you could have just ignored it instead of saying anything if you didnt want it to be your problem

[modern stump]

by talking you've involved urself

could've simply ignored it if u didnt like the suggestion and gave it a thumbs down

[dreamy osprey]

You are missing my point, you are not reporting someone for anything less than a mutable offense. If a person is spamming and harassing you. You should report them, otherwise you can even be at fault for their continuous rule breaking.

[modern stump]

The entire point of this thread is to make something that isnt against the rules punishable so u can actually report someone about it, hence why I even made it a suggestion

[dreamy osprey]

Its a logical and clear process to solve the problem that caused them to make the thread. If the process was followd, this thread would not exist.

[modern stump]

u cant report someone about something that isnt exactly an offence within the rules now can you

literally the whole reason of this thread is to suggest something

[dreamy osprey]

No one is getting muted for replying with #📖︱rules once or twice.

You can get muted for harassing somebody, doing it to every message, trolling, etc.

Mini modding and what you dislike are two different things

[modern stump]

there reason for it being a suggestion is so it could be added within the future

[dreamy osprey]

could

[neon prism]

both sides of this argument seems stupid, one person is trying to get this added to the rules so this doesnt happen again. while the other is essentially saying "cry about it"

[dreamy osprey]

#1167973526737793044 message

[modern stump]

hence why its called a suggestion

it gets taken into account or it doesnt

that isnt to my choosing thats to the moderation teams

[neon prism]

like yes, you can report everyone who minimods cause its annoying, but thats not gunna fix anything is it. they just continue on, if a staff asks them to stop, they do or dont.

[dreamy osprey]

Lets be clear, you are complaining about spam, trolling and harassment. Not mini-modding. Am I wrong?

[neon prism]

eventually they just get muted/kicked or what ever for being a nuisance, then someone else starts doing it.

[modern stump]

1 genuine question here, have you witnessed the mini modding in this server

like give an honest answer

[neon prism]

it doesnt fix anything unless someone brings it up

hence this suggestion

[modern stump]

dont just say "yes" so ur point stands just be honest

[dreamy osprey]

Yes, but i have only seen good mini-modding, because the rest isn't mini modding, its spam, trolling and harassment.

[modern stump]

define "good" mini modding

[neon prism]

in the end its up to the staff if they want to add a rule to stop mini-modding

[dreamy osprey]

Person is asking about how to fix the client in general, you tell them to go to comm support

Person is begging, you tell them that its a gainst the rules, hopefully so they don't contunue and get muted

[modern stump]

so u havent seen the #📖︱rules spam and "Dont be disrespectful" spam to things that dont even scrape rule breaking

[unreal gorge]

but no one is gonna really listen to some random saying “stop chaining” they would listen to the staff probably

[dreamy osprey]

Spam is mutable, and thats what you disclike, so its not mini modding that you are angry about, its the spam

[modern stump]

spam is the term in using because of how much mini modding has happened, its practically the same thing on repeat which is why I called it spam

[dreamy osprey]

And thats ok, if its said once

[dreamy osprey]

So if it happened once, you wouldnt be as mad

[unreal gorge]

yeah but it’s said frequently to people, and stuff like that all the time

[soft berry]

wat

[unreal gorge]

and some people after they say it once go, “like I said please stop chaining #📖︱rules “

[dreamy osprey]

So if its spam, call it spam?!

[modern stump]

if it wasnt the exact same concept on repeat and actually regarded to things that broke the rules then yeah I probably wouldn't even have to make this thread

[unreal gorge]

so minimodding can fall under spam now?

[dreamy osprey]

Those people are delusional, and chaining themselves

[dreamy osprey]

No, saying anything an unreasonable amount, be it mini modding or something else, is spamming

[modern stump]

the whole reason for the thread is to voice a suggestion which other people have clearly seemed to agree with

[dreamy osprey]

You are not seeing my point, people don't care about mini modding, they are mad at chaining, trolling, spam and harassment. Not the mini modding itself

[modern stump]

the whole reason for a mini modding thread is because its happened so much, due to it happening so much its been regarded to as spam. Mini modding spam.

[dreamy osprey]

Its like making a suggestion against emojis, because you are mad at people chaining them

[modern stump]

10 people have liked this thread regarding mini modding not spam.

[unreal gorge]

if you’ve been in general a lot lately there is a group of minimoders

[neon prism]

ima just point this out, the person who created this thread, ( @modern stump ) has over 24k msgs in general (where most of the minimodding is said) and joined less than a year ago (nov. 2nd, 2022) while @dreamy osprey has less than 2k msgs, in general over the time span of 2 years (apr. 7th 2021)

[dreamy osprey]

And anyone can like something with out fully understanding it

[neon prism]

mind you, i dont even speak here much. so i dont have that much to say

im just trying to point out, this is an argument between someone who actively chats here, vs someone who doesnt actively chat here

[modern stump]

if you've been affected by it you'd most likely understand whats going on. Judging by ur argument I dont believe you've witnessed said "mini modding" thats happened in the server.

[dreamy osprey]

Ima just point out that your pfp is the letter S, and was created sometime later then 2018

[neon prism]

and?

[dreamy osprey]

ITS NOT MINIMODDING ITS SPAM

[unreal gorge]

it’s minimodsing

[dreamy osprey]

Thats exactly what I tought about your message

[neon prism]

its minimodding AND spam

[neon prism]

okay?

[dreamy osprey]

So they are already getting punished.

so mini modding itself isn't to blame

[unreal gorge]

but the spam wouldn’t be happening if minimodding wasn’t happening

[neon prism]

that didnt contribute anything, all you just did was make fun of my pfp, and when i joined discord

[neon prism]

they wouldnt be spamming if they werent minimodding

[modern stump]

I referred to it as spam once because of the amount of mini modding thats happened throughout the past month or so. I said 1 word and now its been taken out of context and being used as an argument. This guy has no argument against mini modding and is just talking about spam so I'll just choose to ignore it and see how the thread goes further from here

[neon prism]

thats fair

[naive belfry]

why do we care

this thread doesnt have to go eum3 crosshair levels crazy

[modern stump]

[naive belfry]

husky you aint in general so why you care

dont be a hater just to hate

[neon prism]

hes also just grasping at straws at this point, considering the fact that i pointed smth out, and he immediately made fun of my pfp.

[neon prism]

thats basically what i said 😭

[modern stump]

honestly I didnt want to point this out but I think he's riled up about mini modding since he possibly might contribute towards it just judging by his status

[unreal gorge]

that’s what im saying

[neon prism]

💀 i didnt even notice that

[dreamy osprey]

I am, sometimes

[dreamy osprey]

Now you are looking at my profile

the turns tabled

[modern stump]

Likewise to how u did when u mentioned his pfp?

also refrain from going off topic

[unreal gorge]

yeah but since you aren’t you don’t notice what is going on and how it is annoying 🤯🤯

[neon prism]

like i said, compared to @modern stump you havent seen much of the minimodding, (neither have i)

[dreamy osprey]

I don't think anyone really understands

[modern stump]

majority of the people in this thread are active within the discord hence why they've liked and understood the thread.

[neon prism]

you made fun of my profile picture, how did that contribute. sure as hell less than us pointing out that your status is talking about moderating

[neon prism]

in a argument about minimodding

[dreamy osprey]

I donly did that as a sarcastic response to your 'proof' of some message counts

[modern stump]

the message count shows how im genuinely active and know whats happening within general

[neon prism]

^

[dreamy osprey]

It means you send in general, i could've lurked for 3000hours on the chat, and msg count would not change

[modern stump]

which I highly doubt you did.

[neon prism]

have you?

[modern stump]

just judging by ur argument you havent lurked here for a good minute

[dreamy osprey]

I need to get out of here before my braincells disintegrate

[modern stump]

u do that then

[neon prism]

yeah thats fair this argument is stupid as hell lmfao

[unreal gorge]

so like honest question, do you lurk when you make ur yt vids

[neon prism]

?

[unreal gorge]

look at his bio

[neon prism]

most likely a gaming channel? idk what that'd have to do with this though. im probably misunderstanding smth

[dreamy osprey]

Helping people out should never be banned, people spamming and chaining stuff that has anything to do with moderation, can be called 'mini modding', and is bad and annoying.

Ban spammy unhelpful mini modding

Keep one off helpful pointers that stop people for getting punished/help them get to the right channel, help staff do their job.

[unreal gorge]

he said he could of lurked 3000 hours, so I asked if he has lunar client general pulled up when he is making yt vids and stuff

[modern stump]

literally the entire reason of this thread is about the annoying mini modding.

[neon prism]

fair

[modern stump]

which is practically all the mini modding thats happened for the past good month

[dreamy osprey]

So please specify that, that was what I was saying all along and I agree with

[pallid gust]

what is mini modding?

[modern stump]

just read the thread description...

it literally mentions mini modding thats annoyed members

[neon prism]

also, kinda steering off topic for a second, but how the hell do you have nearly 60k subs but your most popular video is 2.1k

[modern stump]

probably a shorts yt

[pallid gust]

ah thx

[dreamy osprey]

shorts, and keep on topic

[neon prism]

oh wait that doesnt

[modern stump]

algorithm abusing shorts is usually what people do

[neon prism]

check shorts, mb

[unreal gorge]

he said he was going off topic for a second

[modern stump]

anywho im waiting to see all the people who've actually been affected by mini modding check out the thread

[dreamy osprey]

So people are annoyed by a pointer to #📋︱community-support , or are they annoyed by spam. Please make it clear, this isn't a extremely intelligent group of discord users

[neon prism]

yea my bad, that makes more sense. didnt think to check shorts, anyway ima get back onto topic

[unreal gorge]

but they don’t point to #📋︱community-support they only talk abt #📖︱rules es

[modern stump]

just be active in general and you'd know about the mini modding im referring to. This is my entire point you haven't seen the mini modding recently.

[dreamy osprey]

So mute them, but not the people with good intentions

[modern stump]

this thread is mainly targeting the people who've experienced the recent mini modding

[dreamy osprey]

Some people are not active, so please make it clear in your description that you are against the bad mini modding, not helpful people

[modern stump]

if you're not active ask for context before making an argument.

simple

instead of randomly just giving an argument which has nothing to do with the current state of mini modding within this server

[dreamy osprey]

'the current state' NOT EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT IT MEANS AT LEAST GIVE EXAMPLES

[modern stump]

then ask for context...

[dreamy osprey]

just PLEASE make it clearer, so people don't have to ask

[unreal gorge]

let’s calm down

[dreamy osprey]

Nobody bothers to ask you know that

[slim rose]

😂

[modern stump]

or just dont contribute towards a thread u dont know anything about?

there's multiple solutions to ur problem

having a tantrum isnt one of them

[dreamy osprey]

You are trolling and being unhelpful. Somebody with good intentions to fix this problem would be happy to provide examples, quotes, possible working of the new rule, and would strive to make it as clear as possible at a glance

[slim rose]

How exactly is he trolling?

[dreamy osprey]

You obviously don't care

[neon prism]

how is he trolling, its a suggestion...

[modern stump]

im apparently trolling because im not giving him context immediately on sight to something he knows absolutely nothing about yet still manages to argue about then get counter argued about

[dreamy osprey]

I'm asking him to add a few lines, and hes throwing every reason possible to avoid making it clearer

You do not care. Simple.

[neon prism]

thats like saying that someone who made a suggestion about a mod that is barely descriptive about what it does, is trolling.

probably a horrible comparrison, but you see my point.

[slim rose]

This isn’t a debate club, it’s a suggestion. People are more than welcome to give their viewpoints on it. But saying someone doesn’t care is stupid. 😂

[dreamy osprey]

You missed a part, and is asked to, and avoids, making it clearer/elaborating

[unreal gorge]

[modern stump]

ok let me try put this in simple terms for u. This thread will catch the eyes of people who've actually experienced it. It wasnt exactly meant to get the attention of someone who isnt caught up on the situation.

[neon prism]

making a suggestion about something that is somewhat vague, doesnt mean they're trolling

[dreamy osprey]

So its clickbait

[slim rose]

I feel you man.

[unreal gorge]

ruh roh

[fickle zealot]

This is straying off topic now. Keep it on topic, or stop talking

[dreamy osprey]

Nice

[unreal gorge]

this might be the end

[dreamy osprey]

Please tell them to make it clearer

[modern stump]

its a thread with a suggestion.

[dreamy osprey]

This thread will catch the eyes of people who've experienced it
Clickbait ^

And also it won't because you are so against adding examples or explaining it

[modern stump]

eyes of people who've experienced it. Don't cut out the sentence now

[dreamy osprey]

Fixed, and stay on pont

[unreal gorge]

this thread will get attention with how many messages it has

[slim rose]

^

[dreamy osprey]

254, my new record 🏆

[modern stump]

in conclusion this thread is for people who've actually witnessed the mini modding thats happened within this server. If you dont understand something ask about it instead of having a whole argument about it. Simple

[dreamy osprey]

NO one is going to ask, you ar not being helpful

[dreamy osprey]

If i made this suggestion i would be happy and accepting of more suggestions to make it clearer and true

[modern stump]

I've said what I've said if u havent understood it there's not much I can do about that, thats simply just about how ur brain processes information.

[dreamy osprey]

Blubbies response makes it clearly a troll

[modern stump]

refrain from going off topic

[dreamy osprey]

Add some lines to the description, add some example screenshots. its not that hard lol

[dreamy osprey]

Not my screenshot. You are getting mad at me for no reason

[unreal gorge]

personally the description was very clear

it really didn’t need anymore to it

[dreamy osprey]

You have the benifit of context

Which is awesome for you

[modern stump]

If 1 person doesnt understand a thread im not gonna cater to their specific needs if u dont understand something I've given a description and if u dont understand it there doesnt seem to be a need for contribution let alone counter arguing a point u dont know anything about.

[unreal gorge]

and u only talk in suggestions this is one of the reasons why you keep arguing in this suggestion

[dreamy osprey]

This is despicably selfish, and destroys the spirit of the suggestions channel.

[unreal gorge]

since you don’t have context why not say end of story and then maybe next to everything will be more clear for you

[modern stump]

whatever u say. I'm just gonna leave this thread running and see how it goes

[dreamy osprey]

Rules for suggestions:

Description:
Provide a detailed explanation of your suggestion and consider adding examples using videos or screenshots.
When suggesting a cosmetic, specify the type (pet, cloak, emote, etc.).
When suggesting a mod, explain how, why, and when it would be a good addition to Lunar Client.
Include at least one image or video to help paint a picture for the users reading the suggestion.

[fickle zealot]

You were all warned to keep the suggestion on topic, and you’re straying off topic again