Generals: morale boost

[empty cloud]

when in the precence of a general, all units of the same belief will gain +1 bonus damage, and 5% more health.
an example would be if xiphos was deployed, in addition to previous attributes, swordwrath would be effected, kytchu archidons, e.c.t.
this also could be a nice little advantage if you wish to do decks specifically designed for units.
if two of the generals are the same, the bonus will not be doubled. example . kytchu and archis.

[autumn violet]

Me when zarek's buff is not defined
Me when you still give that buff to kytchu

Seriously tho, the buff is not balanced throughout all units

For example archidon just takes way too much

Meanwhile swords get decent amount

But spears get least

Cuz it's only 1 more dmg

I mean the 5% hp buff is there but, atreyos/spearos are expensive

It won't really do a lot compared to kytchu for example, since she's insanely cheap and she's already strong by herself

Although, overal I think this is not a bad idea.... IF generals weren't so focused on user controlling

[empty cloud]

ok what if speartons move 5 percent faster when blocking, archidons only increase damage, and sword stay same?, also, zarek would a proximity speed boost, causing units to go faster near him. and the kai, deads increase damage by 1, and prox speed boost

[cursive plume]

If this is added, unbalance and kytchu decks will be everywhere

Don't give more reasons to use her

But for swordwrath and speartons maybe

[empty cloud]

melee generals sound good?

[upbeat bison]

Cause Generals are not enough of an Harassment

Hard no

[empty cloud]

thats not a valid reason.

you cant state an argument of of only opinion

[sudden fossil]

Absolutely not

Merichu would be even more broken than it is right now

Just kytchu decks in general would be even more OP

Archers being able to survive 2 hits from atreyos with just armory 1
Having 11 damage archers without forge, and forge being able to increase their damage up to 13
Archis no longer being able to 2 shot archers without armory
Forge 1 spears needing 1 more hit to kill armory 1 archers
Eclipsors needing 5 shots to kill archers instead of 4

[autumn violet]

But yeah basically the buff is overkill for kytchu since she's too overpowered

But it's decent on other generals

[sudden fossil]

It's overkill for other generals too

[autumn violet]

Give example

[sudden fossil]

Every general

[autumn violet]

Wut

[sudden fossil]

Only reason it doesn't seem bad is because every general rn is completely outpowered by kytchu

[autumn violet]

Other than buffing xiphos and atreyos quite signifcantly, other generals should not be affected much?

[autumn violet]

True

[sudden fossil]

Archis

[autumn violet]

Archis is not used with archer yknow

But true, if kytchu was somehow gone, archis would replace her position

[sudden fossil]

He'd become more used with archers with this change

[autumn violet]

Yep

[autumn violet]

Kinda reinforces my comment here

[empty cloud]

ok, what if its only for xiphos

[sudden fossil]

Xiphos becomes op

[autumn violet]

Sword is fine being buffed, idk why you removed their buff
Archidon is very questionable rn since they are op and both of their generals are op
Spear is fine with the idea update

[empty cloud]

its just one damage point

[sudden fossil]

It's a 12% damage increase

[empty cloud]

no I meant swords buff is same

[autumn violet]

Oh

[autumn violet]

Sword combo tho

It also reduced their dps

[sudden fossil]

Swordripp, even with the accidental nerf swords received, is still somehow a meta deck

[autumn violet]

Hmmm

Xiphos isn't used in there tho...

[sudden fossil]

Xiphos is genuinely underrated

[autumn violet]

Damn so zarek still remains useless
And kai has pretty good change there

[undone thorn]

@sudden fossil i just made overpower poison for u to choke on, tho its unfinished and unstable.
I'll make it stable so it can explode on your guts :3

[empty cloud]

actully kytchus archidons don't get a buff, they are stormtroopers

[autumn violet]

Altho.... ngl I think kai's change might be questionable
Dead and tdead are already some of the best tank melters

[autumn violet]

Wdym

[empty cloud]

lore accurate kytchu is a bad instructer

[undone thorn]

1st charge: flash point
2nd charge: ???
3rd charge: ???
4th charge: ???
5th charge: ???
6th charge: ???
7th charge: ???
8th charge: boundary of life & death

[autumn violet]

Lore accurate we know nothing about her

[undone thorn]

U should've start prayin lil blud @sudden fossil

[empty cloud]

when sending kytchu onto the battle feild accuracy goes down 10%

[autumn violet]

Lul
The arrow hitbox is still quite big tho

But yeah it's significant enough

But then people might use archis

[empty cloud]

im gonna sharpen my blade on your spine -shiv

[autumn violet]

It really just circles around archidon and their overpowered generals

[empty cloud]

ok no buffs for archis or kytchu

[autumn violet]

Ok lul

[empty cloud]

they are to busy being incompetint

[autumn violet]

Riel

[empty cloud]

no one commented on my spearton dead 😦

[upbeat bison]

It’s not an opinion it’s a stated fact that generals are used as harassment and all around annoyance against the adversary

[empty cloud]

unless you get crazyjay himself to admit that I don't think so

[autumn violet]

Cj opinions suck

Blud said tower stall was fine even when tower stall was at its peak strength lmao

And we still have kytchu meta after years

[autumn violet]

Tbh I don't think all generals are like that

For example, xiphos is best used as tank melter

You're risking your entire match if you try to use him to snipe

Spearos can be used harass, however his idea is meant to make him a tanky bomber (and he was both of those roles, for a while) sadly they overnerfed him so he's trash now

Thera literally doesn't even attack, she can't act as harassment

And zarek is also for damage soaking

Not sniping

Even if he's trash at that

The most used generals are the ones with the best harassing powers tho

But you can't group most used generals into the group of every general

[sudden fossil]

He's a DPS + pressure general, not a damage sponge

[autumn violet]

My brain got laggy
I meant the opposite, so basically same as what you said

[sudden fossil]

Fair

[autumn violet]

Funny how literally no general is good at tanking

They're just tanky atmost

But they aren't tanks

[sudden fossil]

The closest thing to a tank general we have is spearos

[undone thorn]

And dps general will be my creation 🔥

Especially when the charge stack can reach 8 stacks(8 skill in total)

[potent elm]

I really really hope they add that, all of my decks are specifically made around generals/units

[autumn violet]

I mean sure it's cool but there's some balance aspects needed to be done

[potent elm]

Yeah, ig so

[upbeat bison]

Tbh I consider the Generals an unfair boost, especially as a Chaos Player cause apart from the bonepile we have none
But man fending against one of the Royal siblings I annoying in most cases
Mainly I have beef with Atreyos and Kytchu
Kytchu is used as a snipe and we all know how annoying that is
Atreyos with a phalanx is just the greatest bs

[autumn violet]

You're still putting most used generals into group of all generals

That's unfair bru

[upbeat bison]

All generals can be used as an harassment

And all generals give bonus to the rest of their armies that no-general armies can only dream of

[autumn violet]

Tf does thera do

Tf does zarek with his slow ahh speed do

Your logic does not make sense smh

Plus thera's training buff is literally useless cuz no one use both meric and thera

[empty cloud]

crazy, but I guess shadowrath

[empty cloud]

no one cares about your chaos fet- I mean your strictness to only using chaos, get better.

[empty cloud]

true, he took 3 campaign missions to walk to the fight.

[upbeat bison]

Whoever uses order is nothing but a basic little b1t(h

[opal flame]

Fax lmao

[full shale]

so am I one of them you think

I gonna use xerxes method then

if I look like a bitсh

[upbeat bison]

Let’s be real Order is just easier to use all around

[full shale]

wym easier

they got no insane stats

no abilities

[sudden fossil]

Uh, no

[upbeat bison]

They’ve got the numbers
And the speed
Like they are all average
On Chaos we have either:
Insanely Durable
Or
Insanely Weak.

Without Deads spam

Chaos is way harder to be used

[sudden fossil]

Ominers need to be effectively garrison-cycled if they're being harassed which eminers don't have a problem with
Spears are dumbasses- and in melee decks are likely to not do their damn job as tanks
Rushing down enemy miners with order units is harder due to not being as fast as crawlers or bombers

[sudden fossil]

Insanely weak? Which chaos unit is "insanely weak"?

[autumn violet]

After the vault buff

No chaos unit is weak

[sudden fossil]

Even before the vault buff

[autumn violet]

Tbf yea, cgiant had destrutive melee power

[sudden fossil]

Cgiants were a genuine threat to melee

The problem was that the meta was mainly ranged units