What do deep freeze even do fr

[vivid pasture]

I don't think deep freeze is work i I using it wrong

[formal yew]

Are you using it on enemy units that already have the freeze effect on them? Such as units that have been affected by ice path?

[vivid pasture]

Kinda

But at the same time not really

[mystic surge]

so it does work, it does 4 tic damage, for its duration to all enemies in the blast radius, the way the damage appears isnt special like poison or volt though so its hard to spot.

[astral violet]

ik u right cuz this dev is too dumb to relize this skill is vain, it not even apply anything to the enemies and the only thing it does is decoration

it's just make for newbie scared of it truely thick of it

😂

[formal yew]

It does something, if you use it correctly

Though it's not stated how to use it correctly

[astral violet]

no its not

[formal yew]

To use it, the enemy units have to be applied with glacial effect first

[astral violet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=At8v_Yc044Y&pp=ygULdGhpY2sgb2YgaXQ%3D
this is what it does

my friend test it on single unit with me

i controled 1 unit

and 1 unit

garrison

and both run to the base at the same time

[formal yew]

Wdym

[astral violet]

compare their speed that got applied freeze effect

cmon everybody know

the fact

[formal yew]

Was the deep freezed unit taking 4 tick damage?

[astral violet]

no

[formal yew]

Then it wasn't deep freezed

[astral violet]

its thick of ti

it

i used the spearos

[limpid quest]

Ok basically, the Deep Freeze only makes the enemies take 4 damage over time. No extra slowness is applied
Which is wrong according to the ability description

[mystic surge]

it does apply an extra slow as well as dmg

running spearos + surge + glacial fletching + squall, the slow isnt much compared to surge though and theres some weird parts to it

[limpid quest]

It's just that it says 'greatly slowed'
I don't really see that

[astral violet]

wow really creative abillity🤡

[astral violet]

everybody know

[astral violet]

ikr

🤣

[mystic surge]

it's a raw slow% that it applies compared to surge which is an effect multiplier additionally the damage that it deals doesnt care about whether the enemies are currently slowed it only cares if they were at the time of cast (needs more testing to see if the damageing effect is immune to cure)

[limpid quest]

The damage effect definitely is immune to cure
I just wanna know how much of extra slowness this Deep Freeze applies, because it’s so unnoticeable and it looks like 0%

[mystic surge]

i beleive it's somewhere below squall and perhaps above friendly squall?(so there is no point combining with squall for the slow effect but this could also just be a factor of the constant application from squall, still doing more testing though because i got some weird results (the slow from his spear lasted for like 7s randomly once)
something tells me there is way too much behind his slow but I will get to the bottom of it

[limpid quest]

I have heard about this one case
https://discord.com/channels/555057405080371210/1304472579213627402

[mystic surge]

alright this was helpful, the slow should be around 35-50% from deep freeze, it's a flat number hence it doesnt effect bigger freezes that are enherently stronger. now it could just be bugged to only work on glacial fletching (and his attack is coded to be treated as such even without t1/t2) theres just no other freezes in the game that i know i can try to get any more data.

[limpid quest]

Yeah. Using Deep Freeze after Ice Path does literally nothing. But it’s really effective with his melee attack
Now I got to wonder why

You can see that Deep Freeze only applies extra slowness to that one Swordwrath I hit

[trim lion]

Could be a bug since I didn't remember seeing anything in #updates-sws about the change, it just stopped giving extra slowness at some point.

Also Deep Freeze dmg is decent. Does 4/tick with a max of 9 ticks, doing 36dmg to everything affected and that's with no AOE cap. And Spearos was never meant to be an AOE general, he's supposed to be for crowd control

[mystic surge]

works with glacial fletching specifically

[limpid quest]

I think it works only on his melee |: