#Giant, elemental unit: GARGOS

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sonic hearth
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A elemental unit, yes ik we have Lunarclops but i dont think he can be in the parties.

Sooooo i created this unit:
GIANT, LIGHT, MAGIC
(And yes his GIANT and LIGHT)

Attack in melee (35🗡️)
Life (850❤️)
Cost(700g 250c)
Population (9)

1ST HABILITY: Root: there 2 roots who are go towards the enemys (45🗡️).

2ND HABILITY: Fly ( its like Thera hability but without shield) and throw 1 rock to an enemy.

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Giant, elemental unit: GARGOS

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You have to merge earth with air elemental

torn iron
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What is it made from and what are the cooldowns for the abilities and the flight duration of the 2nd ability?

torn iron
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Does this giant have AOE?

sonic hearth
viral tendon
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Gargos is the big bad of the chaos empire

torn iron
# sonic hearth What you propose?

First, I need to know what the ability cooldowns are, the flight duration for the second ability, and if it can deal AOE damage or not

sonic hearth
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1st hability: 20sec
2nd hability: 45 sec

torn iron
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Does it have AOE?

sonic hearth
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AOE?

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._.'

torn iron
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Can it hit multiple units in one attack?

sonic hearth
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Yes

torn iron
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How many?

sonic hearth
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Can hit max 5 units

torn iron
sonic hearth
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For all attacks

torn iron
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...

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HOLY SHT

sonic hearth
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:)

torn iron
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Now I understand why the abilities have such ungodly long cooldowns

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Wait

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For the first ability, it says 2 roots, does it have 2 max AOE because it's only 2 roots or does each root have 5 AOE?

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What's the population of this unit?

sonic hearth
torn iron
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This is unbalanced as hell

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The abilities are too powerful
The cooldowns are too long
The cost is too low
The pop is too high

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I don't think I can balance this

sonic hearth
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It is too High ?

torn iron
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16 pop for ONE unit would CRIPPLE your army

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That's literally 16% of the max population possible in 1v1

candid ingot
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I like the unit concept but Is to unbalanced

sonic hearth
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What can i do for do it more balanced?

candid ingot
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Reduce the population from 16 to 9 increase cost to 700 gold and 250 crystals and remove the AOE from the melee attack

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Also reduce the damage of the first ability from 65 to 45

torn iron
sonic hearth
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gigatreyos 👍

candid ingot
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@torn iron True the elementals fusion needs mama only hm.... Maybe to create the fusion is necesary to have 10 earth elementals and 10 air elementals and the fusion crystal cost could be 450

torn iron
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So that would end up as 5500g 450m

candid ingot
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@torn iron Yes still too much

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@torn iron How is the gold cost of the earth and air elementals?

torn iron
candid ingot
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@torn iron The fusion can be created with 4 earth and 4 air elementals in total the gold cost is 2500

torn iron
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Also the total gold cost of 4 airs and 4 earths is 2200

candid ingot
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@torn iron Balance the unit cost is difficult their stats and abilities are still to op for a light unit

torn iron
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Yeah

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Balancing this is hard

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I don't think I can balance this

candid ingot
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In terms of cost no I mean the only solution could be greatly increase the mana cost for the fusion like it can cost 650 crystals

torn iron
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Is a giant but is a LIGHT unit that's also a MAGIC unit

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It's like completely changing up the entire expectation of what a giant is

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And balancing something that's so incredibly different from what we currently have is hard

candid ingot
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Yes is basically a flying golem and the only golem like unit was the Chariot(the fusion of an earth and fire elementals) in SE and it wasn't to op

torn iron
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Chariot? Do you mean charrog?

candid ingot
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Yes

torn iron
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This unit is so different and unique that we literally have little to nothing we could use as a reference to balance it

candid ingot
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Yes is a really different concept it will take more analysing to found a way to balance it

vapid verge
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thr name is Gargos?

snow summit
sonic hearth
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So its a good concept and good idea but too umbalanced..

torn iron
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It's a very unique concept