more deads

[knotty grove]

We need more deads like the spearton dead or the pouncer dead, They are abandoned in stick war legacy, and also, PLEASE MAKE UNITS TO RESPAWN AS THEY'RE OWN DEADS (normal units=deads, archidons=toxic deads, speartons or heavy units=spearton deads)

[lost mirage]

Pouncer, I do not see sense because the crauler already does the same

[cloud niche]

We are getting that in world ablaze

[smoky cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-panda-rage-mad-gif-11780191

[fringe charm]

You're gonna make soe literally have a heart attack-

Deads should just get removed from chaos

And then put into their own faction

[smoky cairn]

No.
That mean they would have to do MORE DEADS just to make it an actual FACTION.

It’s just better if we only keep 2

[wet nymph]

I agree

[knotty grove]

@lost mirage it's only a example, there are lots of deads in stick war legacy

[lost mirage]

Ok

[tacit tulip]

Fuck the pouncer Deads

Spammers would get easy wins

[knotty grove]

we are getting crawlers and we have juggs, we don't need pouncers and spear deads

[smoky cairn]

THANK YOU
SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTAND
I COULD KISS YOU

[knotty grove]

@smoky cairn @tacit tulip @knotty grove i know pouncers aren't the indicated, but there are lots of deads, and the pouncer was the first in my mind

[smoky cairn]

Yeah but we already have deads and toxic deads, we don’t need a SINGLE other dead

[knotty grove]

@smoky cairn ok, no more deads, but something that needs to be in the game, is that the ability to convert unit in zombies, a little percent of the times archidons to convert in toxic deads, its a bit op, but i think it could be nice

[smoky cairn]

Chaos is supposed to be getting the Marrowkai and if the devs are kind, a Spellcaster like the old marrows or the dead Kai

[tacit tulip]

Ok two things......first if every unit spawned back as their Dead counterpart you wouldnt be able to fight back especially with archidon spammers

[knotty grove]

@tacit tulip no, not every archidon, only a little percent

[tacit tulip]

Two what's the point if you got tower Deads spawning every ten seconds

Still

[knotty grove]

@tacit tulip about that they could nerf that ability

[tacit tulip]

The only reason why the tower Deads aren't nerfed is beacuse they arent strong unless they in a large group and don't tank damage like a spiriton

[knotty grove]

They can nerf it adding more spawn time, from 10 to 14-16 seconds

[tacit tulip]

The only way they would nerf is if it spawned toxic deads

[knotty grove]

Or eliminating a dead from the four that appear in the last upgrade

[gilded escarp]

How about mine...It's only used as a meat shield useless in damage dealing

Spearton dead Stat:
Slow walk. (Regular dead walk)
High health (500 HP)
Low damage (4 dam)
Cost:150 gold
75 crystal
Training time: 15
Pop: 2

[knotty grove]

@gilded escarp yeah! Something like that

[tacit tulip]

Mind if I share my opinion

[gilded escarp]

Fir sure

[tacit tulip]

Ok

Health should be 525-550 sinces it's gonna tank a lot of hits especially against ranged units and close combat

You can't give it 4 damage beacuse it wouldn't knockdown a few units especially living speartons especially when you have to wait to train new troops and you can't forget that some units have a +6 or +10 passive heal and life steal enchantment

The speed is fine maybe a bit faster then a regular dead though but no too fast
And cost should be about 500 gold and 150 crystal since its tank class dead

And 3 pop

[knotty grove]

@tacit tulip see? It's a good idea! It's only a tank unit

It's for the archidon spammers

[gilded escarp]

Yes.good point but spearton deads are only used to stall time for other units to arrive . doesn't need to kill enemy units instead pear them up with other units you think is good for the setup.like archer,spearos,sword etc .there special is that in the frontlines they always well tank the hit from other enemies instead of other units close to them .

.I think the price is just right so that it can be easily bought at start of the match

[tacit tulip]

Not really cus spammers would use this

And a lone spearton dead in SWL could do 32 damage just by it's self

Against a squad of speartons and swordwraths

[gilded escarp]

S-dead can be killed by three swords at once

[tacit tulip]

And besides the more you can kill while waiting for reinforcements the better you don't have to worry about your units getting mauled by arrows or a army of spears

So at least give it 13

Just a edit

[tacit tulip]

I witnessed it take on 10 swordwraths and kill them all it took a team it speartons to kill em

[gilded escarp]

In swl yeah s-dead is pretty tough to beat and can kill alot of swords .but in sw3 and with multiplayer I'm sure he can be beat by 3-4 sword at once

Considering until they beat him . there health would be low at that point

It's good to pear s-dead with archer

[tacit tulip]

S-Dead works with T-Deads

[gilded escarp]

So that the other tanks and other archers do damage from afar

[tacit tulip]

Heavy with heavy

[gilded escarp]

But the training queue tho

[tacit tulip]

That why you have the light archers on standby

And put the heavys as a reserve army

In garrison

Till they are done training

[gilded escarp]

Having 15 s-deads would probably stall the frontlines for a long time

[tacit tulip]

True

But you have to factor in the magikills stun spell

[gilded escarp]

With both tower spawns , tunnel and tower zap he is like the definition of turtling without the statue ofc. if he's just gonna stand at the tower all day while your other unit do damage like E-giant

[tacit tulip]

Not necessarily S-deads are like push units so you have to buildup a ton of units

While they may be defensive they are a high priority and castle archers can only do so much

[gilded escarp]

Yeah like a moving wall (10 s-dead)

[tacit tulip]

Exactly

And garrisoning at the wrong time could spell a loss or a hard time fighting back

And heavy statue damage

On top of that Speartons are the only unit so far able to take reduced damage

[gilded escarp]

Considering their special is theyll always stand In the Frontlines and tank the hit from the enemies no matter if your units are in front of them or not .my tactic is that I'll put my units in middle of them and just do constant damage at them while my t-deads are getting mauled .

[tacit tulip]

But if acid rain is played you gotta garrison them so they don't turn into Deads but thatll leave your main defensive line exposed and toxics will have no shield

[gilded escarp]

But spearton dead is already dead

[tacit tulip]

I mean the living ones

[gilded escarp]

Oh yeah 🤣

[tacit tulip]

Lol

[tacit tulip]

Also with S-Deads you have to make sure you have merics nearby ...Yes they can tank hits but only for so long

[smoky cairn]

There is only ONE way I’ll accept the Spearton dead existence

[quiet aspen]

Like

No

Add spearton dead

Is good idea

SoE try no cry now Ok?

Or Just add dead general(stronger than Tdead)

[tacit tulip]

The strongest dead in the entire game is the stone giant

[quiet aspen]

Yes

[tacit tulip]

What's next?

Giant Spearton dead is 2nd

[quiet aspen]

Well

I don't want

[tacit tulip]

Then there's the regular giant dead

[quiet aspen]

200000 Type of deads

[tacit tulip]

Oh no I'm.just making a list

Of all the large Deads

[quiet aspen]

Ok

[tacit tulip]

I'm classing them by strength

[quiet aspen]

Why dev name dead giant h.mmmmmmm

Is weird name

[tacit tulip]

Well have you seen how tall those mfs are

[quiet aspen]

True

Hmmmm solo order

[tacit tulip]

Almost the size of the corpse the giant drags

[quiet aspen]

Like

"We neeed name random big boy dead giant any idea"
"Hmmmmmm"
"Good idea for name"

[tacit tulip]

You know what would be a scary thought

[quiet aspen]

[tacit tulip]

A giant that runs like a swordwrath

[quiet aspen]

Oh no

I image giant run like swordwrath

And have the same attack speed

[tacit tulip]

Exactly

[quiet aspen]

Pouncer dead gaint

[tacit tulip]

Fuck no

[quiet aspen]

Fuck yes

Like animation like pouncer

[quiet aspen]

Attack animation like pouncer

Speed too

Hp 2500

Dmg 75

[tacit tulip]

Nah man

[quiet aspen]

Ik

Scary dead

Aka your nightmare

[tacit tulip]

Better yet a toxic dead that can run at riprider speed

[quiet aspen]

Yes

And

Acid gay rain too

[tacit tulip]

Ayo?

[quiet aspen]

Yes

Acid gay rain

OP chaos spell

If acid hit you

You become dead gay

[tacit tulip]

Yea no one would play anymore

[quiet aspen]

But deads are immune to gay rain

Jugg no

Wait

How jug can become dead

He is skele boy

Rune sense

[tacit tulip]

It's got a small piece of flesh in its body

Near the head

[quiet aspen]

Wtf

Aka hat

[tacit tulip]

You never noticed?

[quiet aspen]

No

[tacit tulip]

Hold up

[quiet aspen]

I'm blind

Vision issue

[tacit tulip]

Flesh

So instant dead spawn on death

[quiet aspen]

I mean

Why he regen skin

[tacit tulip]

Reanimation

[quiet aspen]

Ok

Insta regen

Like skele boy dead

[tacit tulip]

Jugg isnt classified as dead though

[quiet aspen]

Ok

Sad

Why dead can't become dead

[tacit tulip]

What

[quiet aspen]

I mean

Why if enemy dead die bc poison

And you have rune

Dead no become dead

I mean

[tacit tulip]

It doesn't work like that

[quiet aspen]

Only work 1 time

[tacit tulip]

Yea

[quiet aspen]

Ok I must go sleep

[tacit tulip]

Cya

[quiet aspen]

00:55

[gilded escarp]

Dude wants another version of juggerknights/speartons instead of a unique unit

[gilded escarp]

merics are weak in healing.id use them more if there healing is that good.

[gilded escarp]

My concept of it being a meatshield is unique. instead of it being a damage dealer

[gilded escarp]

Imagine a moving wall of s-deads that is hard to break that's whys my concept is unique.

[tacit tulip]

Strength in numbers

6 merics can keep a squad of speartons alive a lot longer

Especially paried with life steal

[gilded escarp]

Hmmmm what would happen if giants would just drop Their clubs and corpses.would they run?

[tacit tulip]

Paired

[tacit tulip]

We'd be fucked

[knotty grove]

Awesome talk

[tacit tulip]

Nice

Also side note I know this was said before but the deads really should have their own classification like the Deads Legion or something

Instead of being chaos

[fringe charm]

Speaking of marrowkai, when is it gonna be added?

[smoky cairn]

Soon enough I think

[fringe charm]

Okay

Cuz I really want a chaos general

[knotty grove]

[hearty hatch]

A lighter version of Jugg, which honestly is perfectly fine in my book

Although I'd recommend use the abandoned Spearton Sword instead

I rarely see that now

If at all

Legacy Spears don't even throw spears no more

And the times that they do, it's so unlikely may as well be like 3

[dawn musk]

The spearton sword does look horrific to be stabbed by and kind of chaosy

[hearty hatch]

It's based on the Spartan sword from 300

And let's be real, this is just Way cooler looking for a Dead Spearton

[smoky cairn]

A skin for Jug.

[hearty hatch]

Still prefer Spearton sword doe

Just to make it more unique as a skin

[smoky cairn]

Meh, idk

[cobalt vapor]

Crawler meta

We are having crawlers no pincer dead’s

Pounced

[smoky cairn]

Pouncer.

[cobalt vapor]

Ye pounce

Pincers

Pounced

Pouncer

Stupid auto correct

[chilly salmon]

yall ignoring abt the giant spearton dead and giant dead?

SoE going to have trauma if someone suggested that

[tacit tulip]

Shhhhh

[knotty grove]

don't say anything

[smoky cairn]

I am going to murder someone

[gilded escarp]

I suggest a dead that doge's an arrow projectile when captured holds them in place while poisoning them .and on death has a chance to spawn another dead

Inspiration from resident evil 4 remake lol

[knotty grove]

stop before Soe commits murder

[gilded escarp]

[smoky cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/sweep-hit-pan-hurt-ouch-gif-16810148

[knotty grove]

commit murder on him, that's the most trash idea

[knotty grove]

👌

[chilly salmon]

how to make the human species endangered:
step 1: suggest a dead unit to SoE

[fringe charm]

Step 2: get ready to suffer

[tacit tulip]

Step 3: Die

[cloud niche]

Step 4: Somehow respawn

[tacit tulip]

Step 5:Repeat steps 1-4

[knotty grove]

step 6: Soe commits death

[tacit tulip]

Step 7: repeat cycle for all time

[dawn musk]

Speartons dead needs added though

[serene thistle]

can we not have more deads?

the only deads I like to add is Deady

[dawn musk]

They don't need to be trainable just transformations with RoR

[quiet aspen]

I know why

Dead hit gym

[knotty grove]

dead spam gonna get too OP

[smoky cairn]

You mean become a dead…?

[tacit tulip]

Uh oh

Having two types of Deads but only one that's durable kinds sucks when you run chaos decks ......Like I understand the whole strength in numbers bit but cmon juggs out pace toxics and when they die you gotta retreat

So having S-deads would be a benefit

[dawn musk]

Yes

I mean if a speartons dies it should have like 200-300 health or something and keep the helmet and shield because those would be extremely hard to remove plus giant deads should exist because big giant should not turn into wee Little baby man

[west bridge]

they are not ment for stalling

[gilded escarp]

Yes it's meant for stalling because of his high health and low dam.
It's like a moving wall given you have enough SDeads

[tacit tulip]

Spearton Deads are meant to push the enemy back

Now they could be used for stalling till you recover enough units to push again

[cloud niche]

yes

[smoky cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/shame-gun-thats-a-shame-rifle-reload-gif-16005192

[tacit tulip]

You know what we do to Deads around here

[smoky cairn]

What I do to deads.

[tacit tulip]

Put the gun down

[quiet aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/walker-cordell-cordell-walker-jared-padalecki-jared-walker-gif-24694016

[cloud niche]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-cad-bane-lets-make-this-a-bit-more-interesting-interesting-lets-make-this-more-interesting-gif-24760293

[tacit tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/western-duel-draw-gun-gif-18013133

[smoky cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/pink-haze-cat-cat-make-me-cat-try-me-cat-try-me-by-pinkhaze-gif-23728887

[gilded escarp]

Watddapp what's the commotion about?

[chilly salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/cop-sirgetdown-meme-discord-joke-gif-25676829

[tacit tulip]

Ok back to the topic at hand

I'm pretty sure Deads users would want a complete set of the iconic units like Spearton ,Kai, Giant dead, we've already got the toxic and normal dead

So it wouldn't hurt to have a few more Deads and they don't break lore since they are zombies and part of the chaos faction officially

Right?

[west bridge]

THEY I SAID toxic and normal dead are not for stalling they are apart of the rushdown catagory
rushdown
swordwrath
sicklewrath
archidons
(toxic) deads

[knotty grove]

REVIVE

Oof

[gilded escarp]

Ayee doggo thx

Holy smokes this is almost a year old now

[tacit tulip]

Indeed

[sonic spear]

YES.

[knotty grove]

👌

[plucky crypt]

What's gonna happen with the kai on that giant tho?

[tidal shuttle]

who knows, in the intro my man marrowkai is riding the kai giant, i think the deadkai is gonna be the one riding it since the marrowkai is now a general, also the deadkai is pretty much the base unit for the marrowkai

so in my opinion deadkais are gonna be playable

[brittle folio]

Pouncers could be a very weak unit or sm

Like does more to light units rather than heavy

[knotty grove]

Uhh, revive?

[tacit tulip]

Roll for revive 12 or higher

[wanton wraith]

Yes

[wanton wraith]

Nat 20 do i get an extra big dead

[wanton wraith]

YES

[tacit tulip]

You get a Kai

[plucky crypt]

Did they just make it so when u oof giants with ru2e they turn to giant zombies like I never knew

[cursive oar]

They added feature long ago

[smoky cairn]

Yup

They’re not much better than a normal dead anyway

[plucky crypt]

So there's technically 3 deads

[cursive oar]

Technically 5 deads
Tdeads
Deads
Summoned deads
Giant deads/large deads
Marrowkai

[knotty grove]

And spirit deads

6

[timber marsh]

Dead

[gilded escarp]

Juggerknights are basically dead
7

Also ground spawn dead
8

[cursive oar]

That's summoned deads

[cursive oar]

Those don't have the dead tag

[gilded escarp]

a skeleton who came to life is a dead

Chaos is full of deads except eclipsor,bomber and crawler

[cursive oar]

You forgot eminers, also that's half of the entire faction

[gilded escarp]

Their just regular stickmen who Got enslaved not a chaos monster

[wanton wraith]

Idk jugger lore but their not undead im pretty sure theyre just magic skeletons

Or like a seperate species that just looks like a skeleton

Or just magic yk because earth and fire are the elementals that made them

[brittle folio]

There should be a undead spearton with archers and wings and a giant hammer

[tacit tulip]

Nah

[brittle folio]

And call this general
The big black chaos unit

Best idea

2024

There should also be a 5 foot tall giant

[gilded escarp]

Uh but if they are a unit and classified as giant then Monstrosity be Winning fr

[smoky cairn]

Monstrosity do not affect them

And who tf would keep monstrosity just to turn dead giants bigger?

[gilded escarp]

them as playable cards labeled giant then coupled with Monstrosity

[gilded escarp]

How much health does monstrosity add to giants?

[smoky cairn]

Say “Spawnable Giant/Spear/Pouncer/StoneGiant dead” another time in front of me and you’ll be blocked in no time

[smoky cairn]

Idk they’re crap i don’t really use them honestly

[gilded escarp]

Calm down Buster