builds-discussion

[viscid bane]

It is

[fierce crag]

Where can I find a good build for it?

[frozen holly]

nice ima try it

[viscid bane]

Usual influence stuff

[fierce crag]

Alr ty

[viscid bane]

This build works on any melee and does wonderfully on SP

[fierce crag]

Alright thanks a ton man

[chrome badge]

you should 100 percent experiment tho

never justt use influence

[viscid bane]

I'd say first get comfortable in SP and then experiment

getting used to new enemy HP, armor and density etc

[chrome badge]

i say experiment now and never use influence

dying never hurts anyone

[brittle sleet]

There's a limit to what experimenting can do when the game is largely math with room for comfort though

Generally the more advisable thing to do is find builds that are established to be good, use them, and see from there what you need to adjust for comfort, which is part of why a lot of ninjase builds are very basic but offer a lot of explanation of alternatives in comments

Most people learn better that way at least

[fierce crag]

I’ve finished every sp mission lol

[old marsh]

What a Plot twist

[fierce crag]

I jus don’t mess around too much with melees

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/laser-destroy-heresy-purge-buttom-gif-17565647

[viscid bane]

tbf melees did get pretty boring because of influence

[old marsh]

I wonder what WF would be like if they only had melee

[viscid bane]

everything's just the same

[old marsh]

And slam

[viscid bane]

The only reasons not to use influence is either you're doing heavy spam, slam build or melee has some innate elemental damage that is not electric

[old marsh]

builds Dual Ichor for Influence

[opal leaf]

True hahaha

[stone folio]

this might be a dumb question but if i go for multishot on a weapon with an explosive radius do each additional shot explode?

[viscid bane]

Yes

[stone folio]

thanks

[opal leaf]

On the Launchers, they do spread and each additional shot, gives explosion

idk why I wrote this long....when I can just give the simple answers

[old marsh]

Projectile based does. Hitscan only does for direct hit and not the explosion

[opal leaf]

Like it makes one shot felt two for hitscan

[stone folio]

ah ok cause im working on 2 kitguns using the tombfinger barrel and i wanted to try building them for their radial dmg

[onyx hornet]

is building 5 green toxic shards better than 5 power strength shards on gastro grendel

[unique brook]

yall, what does uriel build?

[stone folio]

this is my build

[unique brook]

this is the current build i have on him, and its just makeshift since i have zero idea HOW to build him

[mighty flare]

not really, gastro only does toxin on weakest bounce, but grendel doesn't really need to use shards for more gastro dmg
you can just fit qol on him

[old marsh]

nope. u instead want casting speed and armor (if u dont use umbra fiber)

[onyx hornet]

plus 10% of the launched enemy's current health as DmgToxinSmall64 Toxin damage does this mean building green shards give more current heal damage

no right

[old marsh]

throw in str/dur if u got spares

[mighty flare]

what are you asking exactly? whether you drain enemy health quicker?

[onyx hornet]

im asking if building green shards increase the 10% health damage because its toxin damage

[mighty flare]

no, the 10% of enemy health scaling is unaffected, toxin dmg would only boost the toxin proc it applies

[onyx hornet]

thanks man

[onyx hornet]

ty ty

[peak crown]

ty everyone for suggestions cause it's works!

[opal leaf]

After 2 days, one hammer shot for sell again hehehehe

[onyx hornet]

what bypasses arcane persistence because I get one shot

[old marsh]

viral heat on melee

[small glacier]

what can i do to make this gun better? My friend told me to get it and its alright so far but idk if im doing something wrong

[old marsh]

since u already invested into it, its fine. but for higher lvlv content, it wont do any better

[small glacier]

damn

[old marsh]

same with prime. its an alright weapon for star chart but dont invest any further. not worth your time. there r far better weapons with little investment that can take u way further

for example Cedo Prime or Kompressa Prime

[violet silo]

magnetic and nullifiers

[violet silo]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-neat-part-you-dont-invincible-gif-27194608

[thin zephyr]

How can I make this better

[leaden thistle]

I think don't use Galvanized Shot, try Secondary Enervate and pump fire rate

This is what I have and have cleared Elite Deep Archimedea with it before

[old marsh]

i wanted to use this GIF but felt really bad that he invested in it so much. almost hurts

https://tenor.com/view/dog-crying-meme-doggo-crys-megan-soo-crying-dog-gif-5276199764143986284

[old marsh]

check online builds. lots of variety based on whether u have hotshot or shards and what kind of mission u r running and even what other arcanes u have.

and even whether u have Furax amalgam

[thin zephyr]

Okay thanks am mostly doing it so I can do protea farming a bit easier

[old marsh]

i personally didnt like her farm and directly got her.

[novel bear]

Please don’t use secondary enervate on mesa

[old marsh]

what hurts more is a grineer faction mod for EDA

[leaden thistle]

Sorry, that was for Steel Path after I did EDA. No, I did not bring Anti-Grineer to the Murmur party

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/the-lies-rage-furious-sassy-gif-8650455

[leaden thistle]

I do have Enervate on because getting orange hits semi-often was nice and most things died fast enough so

This was my alternate thought: putting on Creeping Bullseye + Fortifier

[velvet pulsar]

Raksa Kubrow

[leaden thistle]

I think the meta is Cascadia Flare on Regulators? Feel like it might be anyway

[mighty flare]

its not

[leaden karma]

Anyone know some sources for becoming invisible that aren't a primary weapon or subsume ability. My first thought was sade but there might be more

[undone dust]

huras/shade

[leaden thistle]

Bike's 3rd power

Arcane Trickery, 15% chance on finisher for 30s
Skiajati / Umbra's sword, invis for 6s on finisher

[thin zephyr]

lol yeah I know I will hate it I have her prime though so might as well

[warm obsidian]

So...
Influence on Nikanas?

Trying out the Daikyu amalgam

[novel bear]

Which nikana?

[warm obsidian]

The one from Umbra

[novel bear]

Crabsweat’s fine

[warm obsidian]

?

[fierce lark]

crabsweat

alternative example

[warm obsidian]

Welp...
Replacing faction with Sac pressure

[fierce lark]

you replace faction with elem, sac pressure sucks

if you aren't running a melee companion primer of any kind you can run ppp over co

[warm obsidian]

It has built in Umbra Polarities :v

[novel bear]

Then replace condition overload and galv steel

[fierce lark]

if you want to make the most of it you'd re-forma the umbrals with

but i wouldn't invest that hard in skiajati

[novel bear]

Best nikana is syam

[fierce lark]

maybe you drop blood rush for organ shatter, not sure tbh

you need a mod that says crit damage

[novel bear]

Before galvanized mods organ shatter would have been an alternative to faction damage

[fierce lark]

was that before or after cavia arcanes?

probably after right

[novel bear]

After

[fierce lark]

yeah you'd have to run organ shatter over elementalist

[spice willow]

how good is twin rogga or marelok with cyte?

[undone dust]

peak

[spice willow]

seriously?

[undone dust]

idk rogga is peak anyway and cyte is also peak

so peak squared

[fierce lark]

between the combinations of ww/br/shatter/galv ele this was the best combination for both 1 and 5 targets

[spice willow]

peak in what point of the game, im doing new war rn

[velvet pulsar]

Twin Kohmak

[fierce lark]

if you're forced to run sac steel then dropping BR for organ shatter seems to be the best option

[undone dust]

ive done a cap with it once and it wasnt that bad, it's just furis inc if it was a dual shotgun and not a beam

[fierce lark]

and hey it probably saves an entire forma

[undone dust]

shit dumps status

it can get like 42 pellets with torrent and base diffusion

so peak

[undone dust]

im gonna save you baby girl

[fierce lark]

uwu

[undone dust]

https://tenor.com/view/squeak-yell-prairie-dog-gif-8723954077937677588

[untold moss]

does arcane avenger trigger if you get hit but have overguard?

[valid plaza]

Try it out and see.

Is secondary fortifier in case you lack overguard

[novel bear]

Yes

[onyx hornet]

does anabolic pollination work for abilities like grendel regurgitate?

[valid plaza]

Nope. Boolet

And maybe melee

[onyx hornet]

so only weapons?

[velvet pulsar]

Affects amps too

[velvet pulsar]

Yes

[mental night]

how do we feel about this for the Jupiter?

[warm obsidian]

Melee Vortex Atlas is low-key fun lol

[timber sparrow]

has any1 built sporothrix for crit from like something that can give it cc 😭 ✌️

i see

what part of citrine gives cc

[quartz tartan]

4, shooting the crystals

[timber sparrow]

i should build harrow huh

[quartz tartan]

sets weapon crit chance to 300%

[old marsh]

Or Zephyr or Nyx

[astral cipher]

Would evade be a decent helminth to add to exclaibur umbra? Cause i currently use xatas whispers with a heavy spam of Slash Dash and EB, I know umbra isnt the best in terms of Steel Path but im slowly adjusting his kit cause currently i have a shield gating build for him atm

[timber sparrow]

nyx is on resurgence right

[old marsh]

Nope. Needs headshots. If u want survivability, try Null Star

Or Eclipse or Omomori

[old marsh]

Yup

[violet silo]

two forma

[old marsh]

And catalyst 😭

For any new player that’s almost 3 days of crafting

[undone dust]

it is, gas evade excal is kind of crazy

[astral cipher]

and i know that melees can headshot from time to time as well so it wouldn't be super consistent in terms of keeping it up but it would be a funny kinda of invis and things are getting slashed down

[undone dust]

it's much easier for blade to get headshots anyway because of the waves

[elfin echo]

hello guys, im wondering if anyone knows about riven mods cuz i dont know which i should choose, the first one works well with critical delay but i really like the fact the 2nd has crit chance

[craggy isle]

who got a grendel sp nuke build i can use

just wanna be a ball the whole time

and kill everything

[wary forge]

left jsut take out the fire rate mod for it

[wary forge]

wheres the multishot

[mental night]

..good point lmao

[craggy isle]

i got egoed

😑

[fleet veldt]

Anyone got a kuva bramma build, i have a crit rate, damage riven mod

[surreal bane]

How do I make broken war more broken? I feel like i’m bouncing off of lvl 80 enemies rn and i keep capping out around there in arbies. Also open to other weapon suggestions for a melee volt build, i just unlocked the labs

I think i’m too reliant on the 30% proc of slash from gladiator might and 2/3rd of my hits just do nothing after a certain point

[wary forge]

go influence

also crit dmg shards

[surreal bane]

Should i keep condition overload then? Also havent unlocked archon segment yet 😅but i think i could do the missions atp

[wary forge]

go elementalist ovr glad mod and shocking over fevered strike

also might as well use quicking over base fury if u have it doesnt look like u have berserkers

[wary forge]

its lowkey just not worth to use it

[surreal bane]

yeah fury was the placeholder until i found a better option

[wary forge]

gets mogged by every other grenade launcher primary

[fleet veldt]

@wary forge what do y think of this

[fleet veldt]

oh…..

[pliant kite]

Would it be better to get a Sancti Magistar or a regular Magistar for incarnon?

[wary forge]

thats fine ig hammer shot is legit gonna be better then ur riven most likely

[wary forge]

always regular

[pliant kite]

why's that? doesn't sancti have more stats across the board

[wary forge]

it just has mor cc and attack speed

attack speed doesnt matter

normal magi is more base dmg and slighty more cd since it has better incarnon evo values

and normal magi is higher dispo

[velvet pulsar]

I just checked wiki, and I see CD to be same

Matter of fact, after incarnon perk, base magistar gets more CD.

[wary forge]

its gets more stats from everything

normal magi i think is like .8 more cd then sancti

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah

[wary forge]

sancti really is just more cc

[velvet pulsar]

Though I think the sancti gets more CC

[wary forge]

it does

[velvet pulsar]

Yup

[wary forge]

it also has more sc and attack speed but those stats dont matter

[velvet pulsar]

Another one of those cases where base weapon is better than what seems to be improved variant.

[wary forge]

yeah its really just cause the evos get nerfed so much for sancti

like with normal u get 100 dmg on evo 1 and like 20 on sancti

[mental night]

yall got any of them. nokko builds?

[astral cipher]

this is my current oberon build, nothing prolly too fancy or interesting but any recommendations would be great

specially the arcanes cause im just at a loss of what to use so this is just what i have atm

[opal leaf]

Just go high range, high strength, neutral duration and forget Efficiency

[warm obsidian]

Nourish or Roar for Saryn

[velvet pulsar]

Roar

[wary forge]

Why did you subsume smite…

[astral cipher]

I was going for a more support style and just more or less testing how having silence would work

just messing with a bunch of stuff really

[wary forge]

I mean even with that logic why would u go silence tho

U already heal ur team make them status immune and give them armor

[astral cipher]

I'm just in a testing phase atm, just seeing what works and what doesn't through just trial and error

Find it more rewarding to understand the frame mechanically in game rather just reading the abilities and how they work in tandem

[wary forge]

Yeah but I mean if yourre doing that then why even go a subsume then just play the base frame fist so u can see what abilities u are actually using

[astral cipher]

Fair, I just like a trail and error style of learning, more fun for me that way

[violet silo]

for using with cyte?

[wary forge]

That’s so accurate

[violet silo]

can we stop telling people this bow is good already

it got nerfed into the ground

only good with cyte

[wary forge]

Even then like just Zarr akarius atp

[violet silo]

true...

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/924121534799413318/1503401902136623195/twitter-gif-2053726974594490531_6a01e60076a3d.gif

[fleet veldt]

I mean im kinda using gauss weapon platform build with energized munitions

Welp i guess i now have enough reason to get the tennet arca plasmor now

[charred gale]

same with accelrta😭

[violet silo]

YES

hell acceltra's way more fitting for this meme

im gonna redo it for acceltra

[violet silo]

GAUSS MENTIONED HELL YEAH

energized munitions is better than nothing ig

[opal leaf]

Tbh

I never called Acceltra as good

Despite me using it (bc I like the design only)

[frigid crow]

y'all ever just make a build to dish out the most base damage as possible?

[opal leaf]

Wdym

[frigid crow]

I've been cooking up some nonsense on my Kuva Hek

[opal leaf]

Oh it's Hek, that's a normal occurrence for Hek

[frigid crow]

straight up coal build

[opal leaf]

Someone here can dish out a hunned and more

Just because

Like almost 400k

[violet silo]

I need more criticisms for acceltra
it just has ammo problems

but dw cuz every other bullet has multico on a third of its dmg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/548937569434337292/1501765053421191208/Smile_suprise_cat.gif

[opal leaf]

I always tell them:

"it's heavily reliant on Frames that buffs weapon a ton"

[frigid crow]

the one thing that's been stopping me from using acceltra more has always been its terrible ammo economy

[opal leaf]

Yeah if you can't counter it? Might as well not use it

[violet silo]

shitty burston

[opal leaf]

Acceltra? I cannot even compare it to burston

Like peep this

I like Acceltra

I do!

But I can't deny how mid acceltra is

[slender summit]

How do I make my Latron Prime not reliant on my Lavos Prime? I like the gun, but it only feels powerful on Lavos

[buoyant hawk]

Hi, kinda new here, i was wondering whats the best for uriel oraxia Nova and in general ?

out of these 3

[velvet pulsar]

Burston

[buoyant hawk]

alright thank you

[zealous girder]

Hey guys is soma prime good? if im not going for incarnon just yet? is it steelpath viable?

[valid plaza]

Sorta? The build that works is super tight tho

I.e. not a lot of room to experiment with it.

[zealous girder]

wdym by super tight is that a negetive sentence?

[zealous girder]

oh

im mr 7 soma prime should work fine though?

[opal leaf]

Are you buying it through Regal Aya?

[valid plaza]

Maybe? Soma is kind of an old prime. So old it was made for a different game

If you're Mr7, your best weapons at hand would be adversary weapons. Minus existing primes, I guess.

[zealous girder]

so no soma prime 🙁

[valid plaza]

I wouldn't say that outright.

Tell you what, look up builds. I know you'll find most of then covering the incarnon forms. But the builds should be serviceable. Though, if it'll be serviceable in steel path without incarnon, I can't say.

[zealous girder]

what about fulmin

at mr 8?

[hard dove]

very good stockholm syndrome weapon

[zealous girder]

😢

[opal leaf]

It's a good one, hits like a truck tbh

[zealous girder]

heard it gets bad after a while

[opal leaf]

As long as if you build it right

[hard dove]

its very good tho, easy way to clear the star chart
but man the investment

it starts with no polarity i believe for the base variant

[opal leaf]

Both

[hard dove]

prime also start with no polarity?

[opal leaf]

Took me like 3 formas to do a budget build

[opal leaf]

I think just 1?

Yeah but it's almost like no polarities

[valid plaza]

To be frank, get a weapon from a lich.

[opal leaf]

Get Nukor, it'll carry you all the way

Knukor

[valid plaza]

Assuming you want a killing gun, get another

[hard dove]

Knukor is the killing gun tho

[opal leaf]

Yeah Nukor is quite of a trash killer

I mean it kills acolytes but eh

[hard dove]

lowkey none of the kuva weapon are worth it besides nukor for general use besides maybe Hek to an extent

[valid plaza]

The kuva Hind should be the Soma equivalent, I think

[opal leaf]

And Sobek for very specific reasons

[hard dove]

oh right sobek

[warm obsidian]

Do I shield gate with Atlas?

[hard dove]

and the explosive weapon if you use cyte but that ties you to a single frame

[opal leaf]

Nah

[opal leaf]

Bramma

[hard dove]

no gating, spam punch

[warm obsidian]

Adaptation then

[hard dove]

no survivability, pure vibe

spam punch to get i-frame

[opal leaf]

No

The only survival you want (if you really want) is literally.... Just his stone armor augment

Nothing else

His 1 already gives I frames so spam it

[warm obsidian]

Subsumed 2 :v

[opal leaf]

2 is not important

The stone armor is 4

[warm obsidian]

Ah...
Using both Landslide augments

[opal leaf]

Yeah cause why not

Again, he already have invincibility, why need more? If you need more then Stone Armor

[warm obsidian]

Waiting for Forma so running this for now :v

[pliant kite]

is Vauban's 1 good for helminth? feels like his weakest skill unless you use it for archon mod utility

[tawdry ice]

Im new to warframe wat is a good build for mesa prime

[mighty flare]

theres build examples in here: #1500489300754825367 message

just scroll down a bit

[warm obsidian]

Does Reach affect Landslide?

[steady sedge]

What weapons should I prioritize getting considering I have so few?

[valid plaza]

Probably the incarnon weapons, if you're lacking slots

If you aren't lacking slots, then your priority shifts to whatever you find fun.

[steady sedge]

I'm lowk nowhere close to Incarnon but okay

[fierce lark]

quest weapons

nataruk, rumblejack, skiajati, grimoire, plinx, xoris, broken war

if you're i think mr5+ kuva/tenet weapons are an option

[opal leaf]

It is a good one but Augment reliant

[pliant kite]

yeah, i don't really care much for his augments. like photon repeater sounds fun but i want to use his whole kit instead of spamming his 3 like an orbital bombardment
Like yeah its fun but i wanna play an engineer frame who can buff his damage and do good CC. was thinking of replacing his 1 with roar for more flechette/gun damage

[pale belfry]

Not really usuable on a lot frames

[pliant kite]

oh no sorry i meant is his 1 good to be replaced with helminth

[pale belfry]

You should

[steady sedge]

I have the mastery but how do you get them?

[pale belfry]

Either viral or roar is ok

Viral still viable since grouping enemy with his 4

[pliant kite]

roar would probs be my pick since i also wanna use my gun with him and roar would probs be a better damage increase against bosses

[pale belfry]

Watching ytb, complicated to explain all the things

[pale belfry]

Roar is good option for both abilities and weapon platform

[pliant kite]

gotcha, gonna have to see how i can work off of one of Ninjase's builds then

oh wow did overframe break their helminth lol

[opal leaf]

Vauban's 1 is very useful for nuking tho and CC

But I can't blame the man as it's more on utility than doing damage

[pliant kite]

nuking is from the augment yeah?

ill probs get enough nuking now that his 3 isn't a giant meme

[opal leaf]

Yeah

[opal leaf]

Well all of his skills are scaled in enemy health and enemy levels

[marble marten]

Roar or xata?

[opal leaf]

For whom?

[spice wadi]

Yo CCking

Sorry I didn't get on yesterday lol, fell asleep

[opal leaf]

Nah it's ok, we can try tomorrow again

[spice wadi]

Whatchu mean?

Like rn?
Or tomorrow?

[opal leaf]

Tmr

Tomorrow we can try the... Thing

I actually forget what you were asking

[spice wadi]

How to properly build the acceltra

[marble marten]

Toxocyst for example?

[opal leaf]

That's a good question, most go for Nourish and Xata bc of that viral.

Since Xata is in your option and not Nourish

Then Xata

[opal leaf]

Oh yeah

Why Acceltra tho

[spice wadi]

My fav weapon

I'm lame

[opal leaf]

We both are

[spice wadi]

Thats wsp

[opal leaf]

It's my fav weapon too despite how bad the weapon is

[marble marten]

But Nourish only works for viral right? That's the problem

[spice wadi]

Only bad part is the ammo imo

[opal leaf]

No, Nourish gives Viral

[opal leaf]

The stats is mid too

So get this

• Heavily reliant on Fire rate (which is Acceltra weakness) but has Low Ammo...

• itll take 2 rounds to kill an enemy. So in short it's heavily reliant on Buffers like Harrow, Rhino, Dagath, Etc.

Overall, Dude is heavily reliant on Frames that buffs your guns

[velvet pulsar]

Just use Reconifex

[opal leaf]

Well overall, I am telling you this bc that's how Acceltra is

I'm using frames that BUFFS the gun by A TON....

[marble marten]

I see, and Does xata do more damage than Roar in general?

[opal leaf]

Just to melt Acolytes

[velvet pulsar]

Nope

[opal leaf]

I wouldnt say so. But Xata does the double dipping of damage

Roar is mostly increase of overall stats

[velvet pulsar]

Xata relies on specific interactions

[opal leaf]

Blast

[velvet pulsar]

In general, roar is better

[opal leaf]

It's for Toxo tho

[velvet pulsar]

Depends on build

[opal leaf]

Fair

[velvet pulsar]

Like u sure can build toxocyst for blast

[velvet pulsar]

Good nuke option.

[valid plaza]

Sorry wrong guy

I did it on my Volt 4, using the augment plus Volt 1 and 2 augments as well. I enjoy it

[velvet pulsar]

Tesla Bank is a good augment

[opal leaf]

It is

[velvet pulsar]

I wouldn't use the ability unless I equip the augment.

[inner raptor]

raksa also needs hastened deflection right?

[velvet pulsar]

I stick with Mecha Overcharge

But u can boost it further by Hastened

[opal leaf]

Is Mecha Pulse good for Lavos?

[velvet pulsar]

For mecha nuke and health tank build, yes

Otherwise can replace it

[opal leaf]

Health tank build

?

[velvet pulsar]

Even in case of health tank, now that persistence exists

So u should already have more than 700 armor before mecha pulse activation

[opal leaf]

Wait huh?

What's that had to do with Mecha Pulse, unless I miss something

[velvet pulsar]

Pulse gives armor

[opal leaf]

Ohhh

Well I'm on to shieldgate

[river flame]

is this good for mirage or should i change something

[inner raptor]

velocity, augmented or crapuscular on hildryn's 2nd arcane? i feel iffy about running huras in eta/eda since there so much deadly puddles on the ground

[mighty flare]

velocity + aegis/expertise/whatever: #1481553563485212692 message

[velvet pulsar]

Hildryn can't run huras with Crepuscular anyway

[inner raptor]

oh i forgot her 1 kek

[amber sable]

Could anyone help me understand why my kestrel prime build does little to no damage?

[velvet pulsar]

Stack multipliers or use afflictions + elemental DoT

[peak crown]

i think i'm annoying but - is this fine?

cause in ru communities always someone saying shit about my build on excal

[valid plaza]

Last time I had a glaive issue doing no damage, it was bcs I just stacked multipliers without adding elemental damage

[opal leaf]

Remove those arcanes and do

Molt Augmented, and Arcane Aegis

[opal leaf]

And on a blade, just use an influence build, viral won't do wonders on a blade

[valid plaza]

I don't know what ru communities tell you, but Excalibur usually has little issue in it killing department.

Problems arise on survivalizing with him

So as long as you're avoiding getting instantly downed, I say fock em haters

[peak crown]

why? like i have survival cause shield gate and i think with fury i have more damage

[peak crown]

i
hate
electro
i have tried damn influence many times and it's does much less damage + i want play through blade damage not statuses

[opal leaf]

Extra survivability now tat you slotted in fast Deflection and Vigilante vigor

[peak crown]

tat?

[opal leaf]

Then do Blast on a blade

Trust me, nothing is better than it rn

[opal leaf]

Now that*

[peak crown]

blast?

explosion?

[opal leaf]

Yes

Only Electric, Slash and Blast works well on blades

[peak crown]

but i want fire and i saw many builds with fire

• i have enough damage with fire on it

i can even show u my gameplay if you want

[opal leaf]

Then idk...

Im trying to help you out with the problem but you seem not interested in it

[peak crown]

i just dont understand why everyone dont like fire?

[tawdry trail]

gladiator might is a little unnecessary imo

you could swap that out for an attack speed mod and free up an arcane slot

[opal leaf]

It's not that

Heat works but there are better. But for weapons, it's literally electric are the ones best for it bc of influence

Blast and Gas even is there

Heat is just an armor stripper

[tawdry trail]

heat is the best DOT effect hands down

calling it just an armour stripper is kinda reductive

electric is the best element on melee only because influence is busted

afflictions exalted blade works best if you use slash dash because that triggers afflictions

[peak crown]

but what if i hate influence? like what if fi want other option?

[velvet pulsar]

Afflictions

[opal leaf]

I guess

[peak crown]

with that in ru community dude said that it's dumb idea if it's fire

he said "use gas or corrosive + electro"

[opal leaf]

Blast, Gas, Slash

Like those are the ones I can think tb

[tawdry trail]

afflictions works better with blast or gas but it'd be better than exposure probably

[velvet pulsar]

Heat afflictions + archon Vitality on excal

[peak crown]

i have r5 affictions

[peak crown]

instead of what i can do that?

[velvet pulsar]

Vitality increases the afflictions damage output

[peak crown]

i know cause played on Uriel

[velvet pulsar]

I'd say use rank 0 A.vitality and replace continuity for mod capacity issue.

Then outsource ability duration via arcane or archon shard

[tawdry trail]

I don't think you need either of those arcanes tbh

[peak crown]

without continuity i will have problems with energy lol

[velvet pulsar]

U already have problems with energy because of Blind Rage

[peak crown]

rn no

[tawdry trail]

you could fit attack speed on the blade build and fury is adding more damage on top of steel charge, sac. pressure, CO, and furious javelin

[peak crown]

cause with this one i have less energy cost on 4-th skill and equil will give me enough energy

[velvet pulsar]

Put Molt Efficiency instead of arcane fury

[tawdry trail]

swapping out precision intensify and outsourcing strength to an arcane would maybe be better for damage from furious javelin

[peak crown]

nice joke

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah that doesn't change the needs.

[peak crown]

fury give a lot dmg

like +180%

mb instead of strike?

[tawdry trail]

yeah but you're stacking that on top of even more damage already, it's unnecessary

[peak crown]

• this one makes sense only on r5

[velvet pulsar]

Alright then, all I'm gonna say is:
A.Vitality + melee afflictions + heat on exalted melees is a great synergy.

Now how u fit that is upto u.

[peak crown]

cause only 6% is

kinda wont work

i'll try this

[tawdry trail]

swap something out for arcane aegis I think

it's available from event shop rn

[velvet pulsar]

Swap the positions between a.vitality and one of the 2 augments to save some mod capacity space.

[peak crown]

ty

[peak crown]

i have it but idk if it's needs cause

i just tested and this already fine i guess

tested there

i use this on my secondry if anything

[tawdry trail]

oh yeah that'll help a lot

[peak crown]

that's why i wont use aegis :p

[tawdry trail]

arcane circumvent is also a great option since slash dash invulnerability now applies to overguard

[peak crown]

btw in this test i got no difference

[peak crown]

mb because everything dies from 1-3 hits

and a. vita doesn't have time to work

[tawdry trail]

I mean if you ever wanna use another secondary it might be worth considering

[peak crown]

i want play only through swords

[inner raptor]

anyone with a general chroma prime build. maybe for eta?

[peak crown]

and fire

[velvet pulsar]

Eh just put augur mod on sentinel burst laser variant weapon

[tawdry trail]

oh neat I forgot about that

[velvet pulsar]

Do u consider Syam as a "sword"?

[compact cypress]

what other subsumes can i use over nourish? or would it be best in slot

[inner raptor]

which skin is this

[peak crown]

my ichors (no incarnon still)

[peak crown]

Zato

[peak crown]

idk how to get it

[velvet pulsar]

Syam has a projectile which can shoot fire

[peak crown]

holy f...

[peak crown]

oh if you talkin about this

i want nepheri :p

it looks pretty cool

[tawdry trail]

three umbral mods + blind rage + transient fortitude + primed continuity + narrow minded + guardian armour is probably the most basic yet effective chroma loadout

[velvet pulsar]

I remember nepheri.
I didn't complete the build.

Maybe it can do good.

[peak crown]

it's fire daggers with fire projectile

[compact cypress]

just imagine continuity and psf on the empty slots

[inner raptor]

i want to like this but getting stuck while casting fire breath feels bad

[velvet pulsar]

Nepheri also has quite limit range when it comes to projectile

[inner raptor]

which vex do i use

[compact cypress]

ice

[tawdry trail]

cold most of the time

[compact cypress]

gives armour

especially good if you use battery and primary overcharge

[tawdry trail]

lets you max out arcane battery before vex armour stacks up and then once vex armour is stacked it stays up between recasts

[compact cypress]

is this a valid shard setup lol, shes such a good overcharge frame

[tawdry trail]

however electric ward can be funny if you opt for a shield chroma

[inner raptor]

neat. i just need to remember to recast armor which i always fugging forget

[tawdry trail]

guardian armour augment makes that easy

would recommend

[compact cypress]

yeah 10/10 QoL

[tawdry trail]

QOL plus 75% dr for your team + gives you health regen on kill

definitely worth the slot

[inner raptor]

honest answer: is he worth umbraing?

[peak crown]

why dark split sword is ehm a bit bad?

[inner raptor]

*forma

[tawdry trail]

yeah

[compact cypress]

yeah kinda needs it too

[tawdry trail]

chroma loves ability str so you'll pretty much always be running umbral intensify

[compact cypress]

literally every other slot formad and still cant fit a build

[velvet pulsar]

It used to be damage redirection when chroma used to take squad's 75% damage on himself

[tawdry trail]

except he took that damage as true damage which bypassed all of his insane amounts of armour which made it worse than useless

what a crazy thought process

[velvet pulsar]

I wonder if this does the same thing

[inner raptor]

if that can proc the S&S passive thatd be neat

ok just saw 12 meters never mind then

[velvet pulsar]

Range for some reason gets boosted by Guardian Derision

[inner raptor]

ok found that discussion under the comment section

neat ill try it out

[velvet pulsar]

Also, it grants everyone radiation status immunity, apparently to prevent anyone from killing each other.

The radiation redirected to u also gets negated

[inner raptor]

radiation barrel in shambles

[velvet pulsar]

Basically turns ur tank frame into a hero of your squad.

[inner raptor]

shield hero larp minus the baddies

i really wish A&B got the multi co incarnon treatment like innodem

[velvet pulsar]

I wish the incarnon had some synergy with the exclusive mod

Weapons should be unique

Feels like same problem is gonna occur with Obex incarnon.

[twilit wadi]

What would currently be the best melee in the game for general purpose

i got available: Nikana prime, innodem, redeemer prime, pretty sure these are all great

[celest tendon]

guys that Venato mod from nightwave rocks.

Try it on Venato prime.

[velvet pulsar]

You'll like Baruuk then

[celest tendon]

while we are at baruuk then, do you have some suggestions to get him to handle survival for 8 hours.

[velvet pulsar]

Damage part gets covered easily from his exalted.

Survivability part, can take Raksa Kubrow.

[celest tendon]

Oh

Oki

[inner raptor]

btw would the healing from guardian armor be enough? what do you use for heals here?

[vital glade]

do y'all even use primed faction mods

[velvet pulsar]

I don't

Not even on sobek

[vital glade]

these thrown melee mods

people actually use em? the one from baro?

[weary elbow]

Makes sense to add Health Conversion on Frost to apply more Overguard with Avalanche per enemy? My cap it's 19500 anyways cuz I run it low strength

[elfin sluice]

if you ever decide to go to level cap, or generally do a mission for more than an hour, they're worth the while

[glass moon]

how do i build the sporothrix element wise

do i use the 60/60 mods for cold and tox then use storm bringer

[velvet pulsar]

Yes

U can also run arcane battery now if u want to

[weary elbow]

why?

[velvet pulsar]

With Primed Flow the max energy is 400
You'll be using a lot of icy avalanche for overguard, so with battery it reaches nearly 1000 energy max instead.

[weary elbow]

so you replace truculence for battery?

[velvet pulsar]

I did

[weary elbow]

ngl, i didn't notice much truculence. i don't know how it works exactly

every 3000 overguard you generate it deals an AoE viral burst?

[velvet pulsar]

Yes

[weary elbow]

so if you are always max, truculence don't work

[velvet pulsar]

Yes, truculence works inconsistently with the current build.

[weary elbow]

and what would you replace flow for, strength?

[weary elbow]

with current build wdym? ELI5 please xD

[formal tusk]

Considering im using ninjases cedo prime build, how tf do i play cedo?

[velvet pulsar]

You've built health conversion with the idea that u wouldn't take health damage because of overguard, right?

[weary elbow]

alt fire first. then shoot

[formal tusk]

Alt fire then fire at will, got it

[glass moon]

is this goods for the sporothrix

with elec for progenitor element

[formal tusk]

I still aint done it but are the damn primed mods a must?

[glass moon]

just havent put in the last forma to do the switch

[velvet pulsar]

Impressive

[glass moon]

yeah but

should i do it

and swap to elec

[velvet pulsar]

Yes

[glass moon]

alr

[weary elbow]

My idea about health conversion was that I had that slot empty and nothing that I llike for it. So I remembered health conversion and more armor means more overguard with icy avalanche

What I mean is that i'm not following you when you say that truculence is inconsistent.

[vital glade]

you can just use the normal mods

[weary elbow]

prime mods are a big boost in damage, but you will farm them with time when baro come. I don't recommend to spend plat on them. Use the normal ones meanwhile

[formal tusk]

Lowkey idk if i should invest a potato on cedo

[weary elbow]

I'm not a fan of Cedo

[old marsh]

worth it

[velvet pulsar]

Truculence procs when u gain overguard.
But if u already are at max, and frost has frozen enemies, then enemies aren't consistently going to attack u to drain overguard, so procing truculence more for later will be inconsistent

[weary elbow]

well yeah, but that's how the arcane just work. Doesn't mind if I'm using Health Conversion or not. The moment I'm max overguard, it wont keep activating unless I decide to take enough damage

What will you put in the slot of Primed Flow if I choose Battery?

[velvet pulsar]

Free slot for choice, but personally I'd prefer strength coz I also run breach surge

[weary elbow]

but what strength? Bling rage?

[velvet pulsar]

Nah that'd screw with energy again

He can afford transient fortitude because of arcane ice storm

[weary elbow]

do you mind to post your build?

[velvet pulsar]

I also use Primary Overcharge on my primaries & archgun when I play frost, so I kept both battery & flow

[weary elbow]

I guess we don't mind negative Duration on Frost despite losing some damage and freeze timer

[velvet pulsar]

I forgot archon shards

Can't login to check rn

[weary elbow]

you don't really need corrosive projection no? cuz with the strength we already full strip armor with avalanche

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah I was updating the build some time ago and forgot the aura because majority of the time corrosive projection is used as a staple on builds.

[weary elbow]

I have doubts what to run there too. It's either Brief Respite or Worthy Comradery

[velvet pulsar]

I'll probably switch to Comradery because I can buff breach surge

[weary elbow]

for the shards I only have 2 tau yellow for cast speed. that's all

no idea what to fill the rest

[velvet pulsar]

If u feel like duration went in too much negative, u can slot in red shards

[static sphinx]

Does Baro sell any good weapons right now, or are all of them mediocre?

[weary elbow]

Goes to 73% only. with transient fortitude

[weary elbow]

most weapons from baro are MR food. I'd say save the ducats for mods and even fashion before weapons

[knotty shadow]

volt prime best helmith?

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah ice storm will recover it

[static sphinx]

I guess I would agree. And I'm doing exactly that. But there have to be at least a few actually good ones.

If they're not in this rotation, then I guess I'll just save ducats.

[velvet pulsar]

Few are good but they've been powercrept, if u care about that

[glass moon]

what other frames are good with snipers

besides kullervo

[proven sequoia]

Any citrine lovers in chat?
I wanted to run both augments and 250 range while still having decent strength and all 3 archon mods (that actually do something) with impetus i get to about 305% 311% or 317% depending on stacks

[velvet pulsar]

Cyte-09

Also Mirage

Garuda can too.

[warm obsidian]

Thoughts on this Mag build? (Ignore Sure Footed)
Also has Nourish over 1

[weary elbow]

There's a Primsa Amstrung which has an incarnon, so unless those prisma and wraith weapons he sells, has incarnons, there's better option. And even then, I would pick up anything else before a Prisma Amstrung Incarnon

[weary elbow]

https://overframe.gg/build/245783/mag-prime/the-mag-bible-archon-shards-optional/

I always recommend reading this guy to understand mag and her builds

[hard dove]

explain

plz

[glass moon]

volt is a good weapon platform right

[hard dove]

very

[glass moon]

would he be good with the sporothrix

[hard dove]

yes

[glass moon]

also speaking of the sporothrix is there anything i should change here

or am i good to go

[velvet pulsar]

Insane damage multiplier
Her passive is multiplicative to both base damage mods and other multipliers like eclipse.

[hard dove]

ah so just big st dmg

[velvet pulsar]

Don't forget her 4th

[hard dove]

i should play gun garuda more ive just been using her as shittier valkyr with occasional nuke

[leaden karma]

what's a unique arc gun

[velvet pulsar]

Arbucep

[hard dove]

Larkspur kinda

not as silly as arbucep tho

[velvet pulsar]

If the question was powerful archgun, I'd have said that

[violet silo]

I mean, it is kinda unique. auto-targeting chain beam that can swap to a charged blast?

[neon pivot]

does this arcane work with uriel?

[elfin sluice]

heat's the only thing uriel really procs

would suggest even an unranked hot shot in its place, or molt augmented if aiming for STR specifically

[violet silo]

yep. have fun with 6 whole str

[hard dove]

and 3% efficiency very useful

[violet silo]

important stuff

[elfin sluice]

arcane bellicose would outperform it with the archon vitality uriel'd already otherwise run for the aux effect. if ye haven't slapped archvit on, mate, suggest doing that - makes his skills hit a lot harder

[hard dove]

how much str does bellicose give at max rank vit?

[elfin sluice]

+24% on uriel, assuming archon vitality and not umbral

[hard dove]

so like 100ish kill with augmented

i just use that one minion arcane tbh

[velvet pulsar]

Boar

Not exactly the same but very similar in outcome

[elfin sluice]

arcane concentration also does well for s4 specifically

[hard dove]

yeah i used concentration and that one minon arcane on him

[elfin sluice]

use energize & conc here

[hard dove]

augmented gives almost nothing for things like exterminate

[violet silo]

yeah its similar

boar's way cooler tho

[quaint adder]

question: does Elemental Wards Toxin and Heat use the initial range value the ability reports, or do they also use the same range as Electric one?

[elfin sluice]

heat's damage effect is basically limited to melee range around anyone affected by ward(whose lock-on radius is unchanged).
same deal for toxin's.

had to look this up, but ability range doesn't affect those two, while it does affect electric

[quaint adder]

so adding +range only increases the aura sharing range

[elfin sluice]

yeah

[quaint adder]

bummer

[elfin sluice]

if you're not looking to buff allies, narrow-minded is solid on him

[quaint adder]

eh, I'll keep the range and try make the build work with electric then

[dense terrace]

Hi guys, so

How practical is a cruise missile flying Uriel build for general steel path content paired with Vinquibus

[chrome badge]

no

[dense terrace]

Yikes.

[chrome badge]

vinq is very gun and melee focused

unpractical for a cruise missile

[dense terrace]

Which weapons are good for Uruel cruise missile build

[violet silo]

bubonico

[chrome badge]

youd could do a bubonico alt fire

bc his 1s spinny nado thingy allows altfires for whatever reason

(we don't really care why. Never Change DE )

[glass moon]

what archon shards are good for a weapon platform volt

with roar

[violet silo]

primary elec dmg ig

strength

[glass moon]

so something like

2 tau cast speed shards and 3 strength shards?

[chrome badge]

1 tau cast and 4 tau str imo

[violet silo]

if its using a one-shot weapon (like a sniper or bow) I'd throw in a couple purple elec shards

[elfin sluice]

seconding coda bubonico for altfire carpetbombing

[chrome badge]

or five tau primary elec for that extra extra dmg

[elfin sluice]

cedo & ogris also work as cluster munitions or napalm

[chrome badge]

consider coda bubo so you can unload your bombs faster

80 percent sure the coil up also applies the alt fire

[elfin sluice]

if you go the bubonico route, advise either projectile speed or a reload-enhancer in the exilus - the altfire moves slower than your travel speed, and its reload leaves much to be desired if you don't pace your shots

[chrome badge]

i use locked and loaded on the exilus and i always have synth mods so it reloads faster

also i have crux on my bubo so any headshots i hit just adds more shots

[elfin sluice]

^ - vigorous swap works remarkably well with a reload-exilus bubonico because of how often you'll be swapping to your melee/secondary to reload it

[chrome badge]

yes!

im just too lazy to farm arbis and i still dont like uriel

[elfin sluice]

since you're replacing your vinquibus, that frees up your melee slot as well now - exodia contagion and glaives make use of vigswap if you want more synergy and more explosions

[chrome badge]

shi wait

youre actually cooking Damia

[elfin sluice]

if you're landing often, exodia works well in that combo, having a much faster casting time. if you're staying in the air, though, glaives would work better due to simply being able to refire without landing. note: this is the one instance where wolf sledge doesn't count as a glaive, as all of this action is airborne and sledge requires the user to be grounded to toss.

[compact cypress]

for an acid shells build is there anything to change here?
cba to use faction mods

[solar reef]

looks fine but faction mods are imo a must unless you’re using Roar

Faction mods being the only mods that actually affect Acid Shells’ performance

[undone dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1474526850276397189/1478566168615981260/caption.gif

[glass moon]

how do i make this better

[icy urchin]

i made a rlly fun nezha build that feels like it makes active use of his whole kit so im gonna yap about it hold on

(ignore the not fully levelled mods)

modded enough range for 4 with augment to still feel consistent, and enough strength for 2 damage amp to feel valuable,
archon vitality doubles heat procs from 1 and 2 while giving more HP to make 3 feel better for survival,
mecha set doing even more status spread stuff combined with 4 augment and just generally a lot of status from stuff,
equilibrium synergises with orbs dropped from 2,
arcane hotshot stacks instantly from trail making it actually feel kinda useful,
casting speed shard and energy max shard cus modding for those things felt bad and they feel kinda needed,
purple archon shard for electric on weapons which then spreads with 4 augment, while both warframe arcanes buff weapon even further

actually makes all 4 abilities feel fully useful and worth casting tons while also being a weapon platform build, and still having tons of survival

and then you can run some variety of melee afflictions melee to even further add stacks of existing status from other sources and from the melee itself

[versed harbor]

ye looks good

[chrome badge]

thats a normal build

[versed harbor]

you could possibly do primed flow with an equilibrium shard rather than equilibrium with an energy shard

preference thing tho

[fleet veldt]

hey guys im currently using this build for tennet glaxion (without high voltage, and primed shred tho) any comments yall think is there a better build?

[icy urchin]

ive been trying so hard to make nezha to buff weapons in an actual satisfying way and this way actually feels unique instead of just doing stuff like roar

[chrome badge]

nah purple is more valuable

[versed harbor]

also overextended is your friend

[icy urchin]

yeah i could definitely do that, but im at a severe shortage of red and purple archon shards lmao

[versed harbor]

ye fair

[chrome badge]

indeed id use blind rage and overextended to buff the 4 and 2s dmg and energy granting

[solar reef]

ts not good

[icy urchin]

i imagine that would be better with much higher energy max yeah, but with the sources of it i have atm and lacking another purple shard i think negative efficiency would really suck

[chrome badge]

blast glax >>>>

[solar reef]

radiated reload is just pulling a mod slot to throw off your status weight for rad(which mostly sucks)

Hunter Munitions in 2026?

no Crit Damage mod

why even use Glaxion without Photon

thats like the only reason to use over Torid or something

[fleet veldt]

sooo uhhh u got a build for me? haha

[chrome badge]

no

[fleet veldt]

but please tell me gal chamber and aptitude is still a must

[chrome badge]

make it urself and we should critque

[solar reef]

https://overframe.gg/build/668226/tenet-glaxion/tenet-glaxion-photon-overcharge-corrosive-blast-and-variants/

be sure to read the description

[chrome badge]

boooooooo

[solar reef]

why would chamber not be a must

[chrome badge]

do read the description

[solar reef]

Multishot is like the most important stat for beams

[chrome badge]

we fire the whole bullet, including the casing 🗣️

[fleet veldt]

i see i see thanks guys

[solar reef]

Aptitude is almost never a must, its just better than serration in most cases
Except for MultiCO weapons(which use both serration AND apt) or weapons that dont benefit from Aptitude(AOE)

[chrome badge]

https://tenor.com/view/portal-turret-bullet-whole-bullet-more-bullet-per-bullet-gif-27343905

[fierce lark]

not even the mighty ninjase will convince me that debilitate is anything other than a meme

[chrome badge]

i love debilitate

[solar reef]

ive never seen literally anybody else use it

[chrome badge]

whar

[solar reef]

i see him throw it on a few things

[chrome badge]

its more status per status tho

[solar reef]

i think ive seen it on buba a few times and thats it

its just that we have companions for priming now

[old marsh]

No u don’t

[fierce lark]

im pretty positive the only reason it's on his glax is to make the silly augment work

[solar reef]

and on the off chance I did want to manually prime i’d just use kompressa

[fierce lark]

it's not good for priming because that entire weapon slot isn't good for priming, and if you really want to prime something with a primary you altfire it with cedo

[old marsh]

Which would kill the enemy anyway

[slender summit]

Anyone possibly have a Latron Prime and/or Kompressa Prime builds viable for Steel Path

[fierce lark]

for much of the same reason why irradiate is bad

if i have to force my weapon to be able to cap a status for it to start doing damage, the build is probably bad

if the weapon already does this by design, you're better off putting a status that already does damage on it with crux or a damage arcane

[fleet veldt]

wait wha so should I use debilitate on the glaxion or no?,,,

[solar reef]

if you dont have another source of cold

its just there for Photon Overcharge

sonce Ninjase had it modded into blast

[fierce lark]

i think it is purely a gimmick to enable the augment, and the augment itself is just worse than hammer shot if you don't care about the energy

[chrome badge]

saryn is trolling, id use debilitate

[fierce lark]

?

[solar reef]

its only 90% iirc

[chrome badge]

😛

[solar reef]

vital sense sits at 120%

The energy is so negligable at this point in the game’s life span

[fierce lark]

it is, hammer shot is 60% with +80% sc on a status gun

and if you have crux and don't care about sc at all then bladed rounds is vital sense while aiming

[solar reef]

like there are so many sources of energy that dont require that gun or that augment

[glass moon]

would preparation be a good alternative to psf

[fierce lark]

generally yes

[chrome badge]

sure

[solar reef]

handspring is also a good alternative if you’re worried about falling

[glass moon]

alr

also whats a good alternative to aegis

just found out mfs sell them for 80 a piece now

[solar reef]

just get aegis

its in BotB

[glass moon]

i did and sold the copies

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/son-im-crine-son-im-crine-gif-5176045023480767429

[glass moon]

ig ill just buy one for 80

https://tenor.com/view/man-praying-black-man-praying-black-man-praying-and-crying-man-praying-and-crying-gif-23376408540985609

[solar reef]

“woe is me and my self afflictions”

aegis is the best qol arcane in the game

its pretty vital to passive gate setups

which is what that is

[glass moon]

isnt it just 18% chance to proc

[solar reef]

much lower

[frigid crater]

If a faction doesn't have a faction mod, what would be a good alternative for toxic slash?

[fierce lark]

it's a low proc chance, but it can proc while your shieldgate is active and you're immune ot damage

[solar reef]

its still 12 seconds of dont die, and cant activate off i-frames

[fierce lark]

another toxin mod, elementalist, some other generically strong mod

[solar reef]

if it doesnt have a faction mod you probably dont need to worry to begin with

[astral cipher]

This is my current Umbra build, Kinda been trying to fiure out what to use instead of Xata's Whispers or if thats gonna be my best setup cause im trying to go for as close to a level cap build as I can with him atm

[chrome badge]

why does infested have a faction mod then

theyre the weakest faction

[solar reef]

another victom of tri-umbral

[frigid crater]

Might aswell put motus setup on my kuva sobek

[astral cipher]

tri-umbral?

[chrome badge]

trumbral.

[old charm]

Did somebody say Excalibur?

[old marsh]

Because if u wanna be a racist, then be racist to all. No discrimination

[frigid crater]

Umbra doesn't really use umbral mods

[old charm]

Triple umbral is still best for Excalibur in most builds

[solar reef]

unless persistence

[chrome badge]

Umbra has umbral mods

[frigid crater]

No
?

[solar reef]

persistence schmucopery

[frigid crater]

I mean, yeah persistance

[old charm]

The only build I don’t use triple umbral in is my universal fallout melee influence setup because it doesn’t fit while using warcry and eternal war

[fierce lark]

persistence umbra is just an excuse to not forma off the umbral slots, nothing more

[astral cipher]

Ive been running dual Umbral mods just for the boost to Umbral intensify cause currently with this build my EB has been hitting around 500k-1 mil damage

[old charm]

Generally I forego umbral fiber if I have warcry for that reason, the armor being a secondary benefit

[solar reef]

you could get more strength by just running another strength mod

hell just slot furious javelin

[frigid crater]

Augur secrets
Transient fortitude
Blind rage

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-ew-wtf-no-disgusted-gif-11058683547538402693

Have some standards

[frigid crater]

Or
Madurai, that's already the full bonus umbral intensify would get with the extra umbral mods

[old charm]

https://youtu.be/3gsXAOMbqzc?si=81UzMvrBn9W7t4EX Latest advancement in the insane amount of technology you get out of Melee Afflictions on Exalted Blade

[astral cipher]

It's that drain that hits the worse tho cause I'm wanting to keep decent up time on EB so I could prolly go primed continuity and then transient fortitude

That would also help with the data whisper uptime

[solar reef]

literally just run equilibrium and a companion

energy is such a non issue

Excal’s not that energy hungry

[fierce lark]

also for more context to this, debilitate can only proc once per instance of damage, so when beams are hitting like 4+ status procs per shot, most of them are getting wasted

[chrome badge]

Excal is just fashion hungry

[astral cipher]

I also spam slash Dash for some invincibility frames

[solar reef]

invisibility….

https://tenor.com/view/big-boss-snake-naked-snake-snake-stare-metal-gear-gif-17590921064372818734

I-frames arent invisibility

[astral cipher]

No I know

Auto correct be damned

[fierce lark]

typo spotted get stickbugged

[solar reef]

but yeah no even then hes pretty energy efficient

[fierce lark]

https://klipy.com/gifs/stick-bugged-lol--k01KRV8M3F84WS1S5S0ZHDRAKYB

[chrome badge]

words.

[old charm]

I can literally run excalibur umbra, 177% strength, no subsume, no warrior’s rest to level cap by just slash dashing and rolling

[solar reef]

a companion with synth deconstruct and equilibrium will solve most of your problems

[chrome badge]

a energy pizza also exists

[old charm]

So he’s not hard at all to buildcraft for level cap, its just understanding how melee afflictions is the best arcane for exalted blade overall

[frozen pollen]

I need a good Kompressa build can someone please help

[solar reef]

also, you dont have CO on your Exalted Blade

[astral cipher]

I currently have Nautilus as my companion to help with grouping for easy slash Dash hits

[solar reef]

which is lowkey criminal

[chrome badge]

that too is criminal

[astral cipher]

Yeah I haven't gotten it from the arbiters yet

[old charm]

CO doesn’t scale off furious javelin and doesn’t apply to slash dash*

[opal leaf]

How is furious Javeline still used today tho? What can it do?

[solar reef]

they dont have Javelin to rip, and its not like they are just slash dashing

[fierce lark]

it can turn your gameplay into complete aids for more damage that you don't need

[astral cipher]

I also don't think it helps I have 0 archon shards on him

[old charm]

Furious javelin is an insane multiplicative bonus, but it applies strangely, to raw dmg% and elemental damage

[solar reef]

shards are entirely unneeded

[opal leaf]

Aids?

[fierce lark]

as in annoying

[old charm]

Well making Slash Dash do level cap damage by itself and not requiring Exalted Blade drawn is something you can basically only do with melee afflictions

[chrome badge]

HIV but upgraded

[fierce lark]

if you enjoy throwing a javelin at your feet every 20s by all means

personally i get enough of that nonsense with gyre

[solar reef]

thats great and all but they do NOT have an afflictions build

your gimmick is not the standard

[old charm]

Like if you really want to boil it down, Excalibur Umbra only needs triple umbral mods, arcane circumvent, and melee afflictions on Exalted Blade. The rest you could fill in and be just fine

[solar reef]

for 99.99% of the game a generic xatas blastfluence excal will maul your afflictions build

[opal leaf]

Ohhh

Is it mandatory?

[old charm]

Melee afflictions on exalted blade is not a a gimmick at all, its clearly its best arcane…

[fierce lark]

not in the slightest, thats why i added the "do not need" part at the end lol

[old charm]

Yeah, you put melee influence on the best melee weapon in the game its going to be good, like any other melee weapon with influence

[opal leaf]

Ah aight, sorry

[solar reef]

it will perform almost as effectively if not better than Afflictions at level cap too

Since you’re still just erasing crowds with it

[undone dust]

im evading it

[old charm]

Exalted Blade doesn’t exist in the vacuum of drawn melee gameplay with it. Its also got a pseudo exalted ability called Slash Dash

[frozen pollen]

Can I please see a good Kompressa build I’m having a mental block for some reason

[solar reef]

I am aware, I’ve level capped him before (though pre arcanes one exalted)

but its NOT that hard to shield gate

[old charm]

I’ve level capped multiple times with all 3 versions of excalibur with probably 2 dozen different builds

[solar reef]

You dont HAVE to slash dash exclusively

[old charm]

Tons of full runs uploaded to youtube as well

[frozen pollen]

Thank you

[solar reef]

and thats awesoem I’m glad you enjoy him, but pretending you dont get the opportunity to just use your exalted normally for influ slop is delulu crazy

[undone dust]

bro thinks he all that and a colostomy bag

[old charm]

Its about unlocking the potential of his kit. If you only ever use melee influence on Exalted Blade, you’re making Slash Dash’s damage effectively capped and very limited, even in normal SP content

[solar reef]

in normal sp content doing like 5 million with slash dash is more than enough lol

[old charm]

I have a whole build that’s melee influence on Exalted Blade, but its using radiation/electric and universal fallout, not blast and/or xata’s or whatever

[pale belfry]

afflictions only work on normal unit, not on those cant be knocked down or flung. Like demolisher

[old charm]

You’re not hitting that hard with just Slash Dash on an influence exalted blade without having something like wrathful advance and full furious jav stacks, and high strength

[fierce lark]

brother i haven't even finished building my excal and slopfluence slash dash with like 2x combo is still 1shotting random 225 techrot lol what are we saying atp

[undone dust]

techrot.. nerd..

[old charm]

You’d be surprised at what procs melee afflictions, it procs bosses and all

Turns out, 99.5% of enemies can proc afflictions

[solar reef]

xatas blastfluence excal is bar none the best build for kpm shenanigans
That aside you do NOT need all that for doing that much damage

[pale belfry]

i used since the release, and i know how good or shit it can be

[fierce lark]

he has unlocked the forbidden jutsu of applying cc effects to cc immune bosses waow

[solar reef]

those who voruna 😰

[valid plaza]

Both Angstrum and Toxocyst ricochet headshots. Which one would be best use for Cyte-09 evade?

[old charm]

Turns out, KPM shenanigans isn’t even the vast majority of content, even if we’re talking about level cap that’s usually void cascade

[solar reef]

founder ball knowledge forbidden to us

[fierce lark]

yes it is wtf LMAO

[old charm]

Go do the Perita bosses with melee afflictions on a weapon that’ll reliably proc it like Exalted Blade’s heavy waves and you’ll see what I’m talking about

[fierce lark]

99.9999% of people playing this videogame in missions are entering a mission with the intention of "me want kill enemies fast"

[valid plaza]

In my experience, most of the content is a short waiting task with minigames strewn about.

[fierce lark]

like normal human beings

[undone dust]

i want 1 kpm

[pale belfry]

voruna was the one who could use that arcane at max because her 1st ability give guaranteer sc

[fierce lark]

whether they're cooking some shit up with their build, or they copypasted something, or they literally have no idea what any of their stuff does, people playing the warframe looter shooter game are playing it to kill enemies and get loot

[old charm]

The unfortunate reality here is that you actually need to run the build I’m talking about to be able to understand what I’m talking about. The vacuum you’re operating in simply doesn’t understand the interactions I’m talking about

[fierce lark]

brother i dont think anybody knows what you're talking about atp

[solar reef]

“I’m going to throw big words in there, that makes me right”
you know full and damn well people just want kpm slop

[old charm]

Melee Afflictions on Exalted Blade is self explanatory once you’ve actually spent time running it and understanding the insane amount of interactions involved

[solar reef]

wrong reply mb champ

[astral cipher]

So what I'm getting is that I just gotta find what works best for him xD

[solar reef]

kpm slop that one shots effectively every sheet of content in the game mind you

influ excal mauls

[fierce lark]

oh im not paying any attention to whatever ur saying about afflictions

saying "kpm shenanigans isn't the vast majority of content" when literally most missions get faster the faster you're able to kill things is just asinine

[old charm]

Check out the video I linked you earlier. The build in that is my template for Arcane Circumvent and Melee Afflictions on Excalibur, any version friendly, that doesn’t need high strength or even a subsume to be level cap viable

[chrome badge]

is it bad i play the game to enjoy it even though im not hitting dmg cap and what not o.o

[fierce lark]

no wtf

[chrome badge]

:3

[old charm]

Works to that tier whether you want to use Exalted Blade or not without sacrificing capabilities on Slash Dash and Exalted Blade. Its pretty absurd how well it works knowing all the interactions

[fierce lark]

first off, damage cap is a meme, practically useless and only something we do for fun

[solar reef]

but but but my integer cap!!!

[pale belfry]

kpm give you satisfaction.
honestly, theres no point i want to do kpm. Sitting in 1 spot just for getting kills and flexing nothing, lao

[old charm]

I don’t buildcraft around maximum damage, its about universality and versatility so that you can actually have fun with the build not having to maintain 10 things to just overkill by 100x

[undone dust]

ouuu shiii im integer cappin ouuu

[chrome badge]

mhm :3 i just be playing

[fierce lark]

second, level cap is a meme and is also something we mostly do for fun, it is technically a high tier source of arcane farming but like 99.9999999999% of players don't have the patience for that, lvlcap is completely irrelevant to talk about for anyone unless they ask about it specifically and ppl who mention it are usually just flexing their warframe epeen

[pale belfry]

i build shit to get the job done, not chasing shine shit

[undone dust]

can i see your warframe epeen

[astral cipher]

Sweet thanks, just lately I've been cycling through many frames and none of them have been enjoyable to play until I got back into using Umbra

[pale belfry]

dmg cap, kpm just too outdated

[old charm]

level cap is not a meme when you can hop in omnia sp void cascade and very quickly get max boosters from cracking relics and level cap within 90 minutes

[fierce lark]

lmao "r 34" in 1 word is blocked by the censor

[solar reef]

i just think level cap cascade is the bestest most epicest most funnest content

https://tenor.com/view/cat-leaf-vibes-vibing-sleeping-cat-gif-17297041570420202318

[pale belfry]

cascade level cap?

[undone dust]

level cap conjunction survival the best!

[pale belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/tim-gunn-eww-gross-yuck-meme-disgusting-sticks-tongue-out-gif-1716626911192888665

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/a4c712-dashera4c-nonchalant-gamer-i'm-speechless-speechless-gif-13022095084831385298

[fierce lark]

i mean like some people enjoy doing it sure, i only play pubs so if the group happens to want to go to cap i'll do it, but im not actively seeking to spend over an hour in every fissure

[solar reef]

omni disruption when please DE

[pale belfry]

DE GIVE ME LUA APOLLO OMNIA

[old charm]

Excalibur Umbra is extremely good, the buildcrafting around Excalibur in general gets some really cringe “just slap chromatic blade and melee influence on it” that’s way too dogmatic. I break that and have a ton of build variations around other arguably more powerful interactions, especially melee afflictions

[fierce lark]

im actually surprised there's no fissure for deimos disruption

[pale belfry]

i hate cascade, i hate playing with dumb fck team

fck the wukong, fck the gauss too

[old charm]

I’d do that if it ididn’t take like 3 hours or more to reach

[solar reef]

cascades pretty chill for me now since I always just resign myself to defending

[solar reef]

its 8 😭

[old charm]

I’ve been hoping they add this, but void cascade is just so easy now with all the buffs we got to amps in old peace

[fierce lark]

i dont have the attention span for it

[old charm]

Yeah, lol, no thanks 😄 I did level cap disruption before omnia fissures and that’s hard to pass up now

[solar reef]

I was a avid fan of level capping kuva disruption until they capped weekly kuva relics

[old charm]

My favorite meta breaking thing to do with void cascade before old peace was just let my kavat kill the thrax ghosts since I could get it to 1 shot them

[north peak]

i think i'd vibe with cascade level cap more if i wasnt glued to excal and kept getting reminded umbra wipes buffs (especially from subsumes) every time i go operator - was especially fun learning that persistence doesnt give umbra the healthgate so i'd transfer back to a frame with like 20hp at get oneshot (unless i spend a mod slot on an augment to turn his brain off)

[mental night]

yall got any of those EFV-5 Jupiter builds? its fun but i cant get it above lvl 80 missions before slogging

[solar reef]

its still doable i just hate the principle of the changes

[fierce lark]

tbh thats a lie ive done a 3 hour alchemy

but if every run i did went to cap id burn out

[pale belfry]

around under 1h-2h on normal disruption, cavia disuption will take you 4h or above to reach level cap

[fierce lark]

why do murmur have weird level scaling

[mental night]

my mods could just be bad. this is true

[pale belfry]

nope, its because XXL tileset map, and low spawn rate, and how far between conduits

and because necramech disruption is the one tankiest in all demolisher

[north peak]

i like it when the map generates a giant horseshoe using the biggest tiles it can and puts one half of the conduits nearly 1k meters away from the other half /s

[solar reef]

DE gives tiles teleporters/warps when we hate then and doesnt when we need them

[pale belfry]

I did like 3 4 runs since that shit release and never touch again

[solar reef]

Having giant teleportation orbs like we have in cascade to get from tile to tile would be awesome

[mental night]

..theres a Murmur disruption??

[pale belfry]

fck the mode

[solar reef]

you’ve not experienced it in EDA?

[mental night]

EDA??

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-peggle-puzz-mid-video-high-gif-553759000954454273

[pale belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/stantwt-stantwitter-jpsaririah-gif-1272414431220744246

[marble marten]

What was the name of the 60/60 electric shotgun mod?

[solar reef]

shell shock

[north peak]

mmm murmur disruption...

[fleet veldt]

so uhh high voltage is expensive af rn is there a sub mod for it or should I just grind plat for it

[pale belfry]

too low

[north peak]

would be higher but i wasted all my resources on transmuters between then and now

[violet silo]

what gun?

[marble marten]

guess the mod lol

[pale belfry]

transmute was in eidolon hunt mainly

[violet silo]

oh glax

[violet silo]

just use stormbringer rn ig

[north peak]

ehhh not a fan of eidolon hunts personally, but i acknowledge that was a better source of transmuters - now i just buy them from the weekly riven sliver shop tho

[pale belfry]

it isnt expensive tho

[fleet veldt]

aye man,,,, so at this side of life of tenno 70p is expensive,

[pale belfry]

was 400