builds-discussion

[solar reef]

none of these are examples of pseudo exalteds except for atlas

theres only two psuedo exalteds left in the game

[gray quarry]

Pseudo exalteds are no more tho, they no longer exist

[fierce lark]

wut

[solar reef]

theres 2

[gray quarry]

What 2

Far as I knew pseudo exalteds were gone

[queen parcel]

ah potatoes tomatoes i count them as pseudo

[mighty flare]

afflictions ulfrun could be something if the aoe did knockdown instead of stagger while applying slash

[solar reef]

Slash Dash and iirc Atlas Rumblers

[dusky bane]

Slash dash is just exalted blade no?

[solar reef]

Slash Dash is still a pseudo exalted. It just uses exalted blade instead of your regular melee now

[dusky bane]

Idk, I don't count that tbh

[gray quarry]

What about atlas’s rumblers

[fierce lark]

pseudo exalteds are what we call everyone's spammable 1 that either scaled off your melee weapon or now has its own mod screen

whipclaw, shattered lash, landslide fist etc

[solar reef]

if its moddable its no longer pseudo-exalted

its just straight up exalted

[fierce lark]

that

what

you're acting like "pseudo-exalted" is an official term lol

[gaunt rivet]

I still think it would be cool if they were proper channeled Exalted weapons

[gray quarry]

Slash dash should count as exalted then, since it’s just exalted blade

[solar reef]

its just how can it be “pseudo” if its just a straight up exalted in performance

like its functionally just any other exalted at this point

[fierce lark]

nothing about their functionality has changed lol

you still can't equip them

[solar reef]

What made them pseudo exalteds was that they couldnt be modded on their own

[mighty flare]

[solar reef]

its still using the stats of a separate item

[gray quarry]

We can equip exalteds??

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/rain-gif-13928146079595427949

[mighty flare]

slash is counted as pseudo

[mighty flare]

too slow

[gray quarry]

you’re wrong

[fierce lark]

frick

[solar reef]

I still only consider slash dash and rumblers that last two pseudo exalteds

wiki be damned

[mighty flare]

yeah i just made it up actually, faked image

[gray quarry]

[fierce lark]

how do you consider slash dash a pseudo exalted but not one of the other ones that behave identically

[queen parcel]

i count them as psuedo since you can't equip them

[mighty flare]

caught me

[solar reef]

because slash dash itself isnt moddable

[fierce lark]

yes it is, it's modded through exalted blade lol

[solar reef]

it uses the mod sheet of a separate item

It just happens to be exalted blade now instead of your equipped melee

[fierce lark]

you're looking at a snickers bar and saying "that's not chocolate, that's snickers"

[queen parcel]

it's just an extension of exalted blade tho

if anything i don't think it should count since it's more like...a special attack with exalted blade

[solar reef]

im looking at a snickers bar and calling it a snickers bar, while saying every other chocolate bar is a different chocolate bar

they are all chocolate but the snickers bar is unique

[fierce lark]

either way they're all still pseudo exalteds for the same reason as before

nothing changed

[gray quarry]

You’re all wrong

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/saul-goodman-gif-24305672

[queen parcel]

right well before this gets annoying

what's a good subsume over atlas' 2?

[fierce lark]

n-

[steep dagger]

I started a war, damn

[queen parcel]

cause i just got him and i don't really know what i should give him since he's pretty good on his own

[dusky bane]

Probably something boring like nourish

[gray quarry]

Imma just start saying everyones wrong

[fierce lark]

wrathful probably if you're doing influence fists

[queen parcel]

i've got a companion for status i don't need influence

diriga is really good for getting status for melee builds

might not be as good as influence but it's great either way

[rocky mason]

Lycath's Hunt so you have infinite orbs

[gray quarry]

Orb

[queen parcel]

i dont need health orbs tho, atlas is immune to damage during his 1

[rocky mason]

Orbs are good

[rocky mason]

Energy

[queen parcel]

lycaths gives health on melee

[rocky mason]

Equilibrium

[gaunt rivet]

Could always take advantage of Equilibrium

[queen parcel]

not energy, that's on headshots

oh that's true i didn't think about that

i dont use equilibrium often

[rocky mason]

It's what I do to keep up with petrifying the enemies

Even with the punches not costing energy, that one does

[queen parcel]

oh his 1 augment can help

his 4 also petrifies enimies around him on cast

which i think was the idea behind rumbled but it's still probably the worst augment in game lol

[solar reef]

xatas whisper blast 🧠

[rocky mason]

Yeah the 1 augment is good, mandatory even I'd way

[rocky mason]

Overkill

[solar reef]

yes!

[rocky mason]

You already have more damage than you need

[solar reef]

but funny

[rocky mason]

So qol is better to add on a subsume

[queen parcel]

yeah i could do lycath

bleh i just need to farm voruna now...

[fierce lark]

these are not related in any way

[queen parcel]

whar?

[solar reef]

Influence isnt just for status spread

its for status nuke

[fierce lark]

influence isn't for spreading statuses

it's for spreading a status that nukes everything in a 20m radius

[rocky mason]

Good thing there's a prime now so you won't have to mind subsuming her

[gray quarry]

Equilibrium so you can get energy for health orb

[queen parcel]

with atlas tho i kinda dont wanna kill too fast because i need to make sure i can petrify enemies first

[fierce lark]

actually

if your main target is primed, and you hit it with influence, then by some miracle everything around it doesn't die, they'll all also be primed with viral mag rad and whatever else the first target had

[fresh solstice]

Heyy anyone got a good gara build?

[gray quarry]

Nourish over 3

[queen parcel]

what about wrathful advance?

would that be good on atlas?

[fresh solstice]

Not wrathful advance?

[solar reef]

i mean its just a direct damage increase through crit

if you just want damage I always recommend xatas blast 🤑

[queen parcel]

na i don't have a ton of duration on my atlas

[gray quarry]

Nah, my shattered lash is an influence one so I din’t bother

[queen parcel]

don't wanna recast lycath if i can avoid it

[solar reef]

lycath upkeeps itself

[fresh solstice]

So is influence better then affiction or what its called

[gray quarry]

Prime with atleast 5 elements

[solar reef]

two very different applications

[gray quarry]

Different uses, I saw her kit and said “influence gonna go crazy” cause it’s big nuking

[brittle sleet]

Nah Rumbled does work since you can use Landslide level damage for low cost without building up rubble

[gray quarry]

I can see afflictions being nice to run

[astral tinsel]

doughty shattered lash is kinda funny

[gray quarry]

I tried that and it felt meh to me

[brittle sleet]

Tons of basically useless augment mods from Conclave especially but that one has use

[queen parcel]

yeah but you lose like all your mobility, not worth it

[astral tinsel]

ofc it sucks, it only works on the poke and doesn't give it more AoE like influence does

but it is funny

[gray quarry]

Fair

[near vortex]

mfw you do enough damage that Influence never procs

[rocky mason]

Is it still like that?

[fresh solstice]

U have a good build for influece then?

[fresh solstice]

Thx

[dusky bane]

Why sac steel

And doesn't lash build CO

[rocky mason]

If you one shot everything with PPP it's better than CO

[dusky bane]

I'm not seeing the correlation

[rocky mason]

Less work

[dusky bane]

You kinda don't want instant oneshots with influence either

[dusky bane]

You're pressing 1 button

[rocky mason]

No

You're pressing it twice, or priming it

[dusky bane]

Companion primes

[rocky mason]

I never get that logic

You still have to wait for it

[dusky bane]

Barely if at all

And not like you have better things to do
You're just spamming the 1 key

[rocky mason]

Still annoying to do instead of just killing the enemy immediately

[dusky bane]

It'll kill shit instantly anyway and scale better

[rocky mason]

Wdym scale

[dusky bane]

Do more damage so when enemies get tougher they still die easy

[rocky mason]

PPP Gara kills stuff easily on level 500 already

You don't need to build for tougher enemies than that

[dusky bane]

Sure, but like
Why not go for the best build possible if it's 1 mod away anyway

[rocky mason]

Because it's more work for no reason

[dusky bane]

Especially since you're more likely to have CO than a maxed PPP

[rocky mason]

If I'm doing the calendar to kill 500 enemies I don't want to stare at all the techrot until my companion primes them

That little bit of time adds up on those numbers

[dusky bane]

You're vastly overstating how "slow" priming is
And even without priming, the hit itself will proc at least 2 statuses, matching ppp

[rocky mason]

For itself?

[dusty dragon]

how do you even build melee weapons these days? is it just influence slop?

[rocky mason]

There's other options too

Afflictions, careen, vortex

It's just that influence is stronger than any other by far

[dusty dragon]

lets say i had a melee weapon with generically good stats, but with no special gimmicks

[rocky mason]

If you want the strongest build for it, it would be influence

[dusty dragon]

influence is just the "default choice" because you can always mod electric?

[rocky mason]

But there are other viable options

[rocky mason]

It's because of how strong the aoe is

Not anything about having to use electric

[astral tinsel]

20m AoE with no target limit, no target scaling, no range scaling and no cooldown is just bonkers unfair

you could add all of those things and it would still be the strongest arcane for trash clear

[rocky mason]

Triple faction bonus dip too

[astral tinsel]

how could I forget

also the fact that it actually does raw damage on top of spreading status

[gray quarry]

It kills everything instantly anyway

[graceful anvil]

Any suggestions to make my Inaros more of a tanky monster?

[near vortex]

3rd Umbral mod

[graceful anvil]

Like this? o:

I may have to shove more formas in him but yeh

[gray quarry]

Fast deflection

Also switch vitality with redirection

[gaunt rivet]

...this is Inaros

[gray quarry]

[graceful anvil]

Yeah I was about to say. This is Inaros, what shields lol

[gray quarry]

Well yeah he needs redirection to be able to shield gate

[graceful anvil]

He can't he has none lmao

[gray quarry]

[graceful anvil]

plus Arcane Persistance makes it so he can't have any regardless

[gray quarry]

You just gotta believe he has shields

[lusty crane]

Yall don’t understand how good a shield tank Inaros is

[gray quarry]

He’s the best shield tank

[gaunt rivet]

Ah
I see

[graceful anvil]

Maybe I should put on his Negation Armor augment?

[gaunt rivet]

never knew Orks played Warframe

[gray quarry]

Nah anyway build looks fine, triumbral inaros is what you want

[graceful anvil]

ok but what other Arcane should a slap onto him?

[gaunt rivet]

You could be particularly silly and use Arcane Grace

[graceful anvil]

I only have a single one and it's R0 lmao

[gray quarry]

Arcane grace could be funny, I can imagine blessing being funny

[cinder pasture]

what are good weapons against accolyts?

[gaunt rivet]

Otherwise, my default suggestion
For virtually everyone
Is Arcane Energize

[graceful anvil]

The goal is to make him be able to tank lvl 300 enemies minimum owo

so like, netracells basically

[wary forge]

Your build can tank that just fine

Yo also don’t really need more armor then fiber since u get free armor from his 3

[graceful anvil]

I could rip out Carnis Carapace and put something else...

[wary forge]

Negation armor is bad

Like very

[graceful anvil]

is it really? o.o

[wary forge]

You shouldn’t even need any healing vs level 300/ your armor should be more then enough to just tank

But I mean yeah if you to be super safe just run some type of healing

[graceful anvil]

ah okay

ty for the feedback everyone ^w^

[wary forge]

Carapace is still good cause it’s hp and armor the stats that u want ur first build is fine u just dont need negation armor I would just run another hp mod or more strength/durarion depending on what subsume u want to go with

[graceful anvil]

what subsume would you recommend for him? o:

[viscid bane]

Anything I can improve?

[wary forge]

Depends on how you want to build him I play him as a melee frame so I just wa

[normal folio]

Is Braton prime better with crit or Status???

[wary forge]

I would subsume the 4 especially in a melee build u just don’t really cast it and imo if it’s not like fully built around it’s pretty meh and even then just use an melee an its gonna just be better

Also subsuming the 4 allows u to go precision intensify

[fierce lark]

crit, but also what does “status” mean to you exactly?

other than a few exceptions, every single weapon wants elemental mods, they’re still an added multiplier whether you care about the status or not

[solar reef]

“crit or status” its 2026 why not both

[buoyant patio]

Oof that negative hurts.

[solar reef]

even if you dont throw on every sc mod on the planet you’re still likely using at least one dual status if you arent offloading it to a companion

[viscid bane]

Not really. 2nd evo gives projectile speed so it's fine

[fierce lark]

-proj is annoying but offsettable with exilus and evo

probably won't notice it much

or just evo

i thought dread really liked split flights

[viscid bane]

Don't have it and it doesn work with chamber

[fierce lark]

well no it would go in place of chamber lol

[viscid bane]

I realised that that I said a stupid thing in the 2nd part as soon as I pressed enter

I thought it was just a gimmick mod, I'll be on the lookout for it (baro plz)

[normal folio]

Elemental debuff like heat

[viscid bane]

Builds in general have both these days

[grand wharf]

why is my crit damage showing like this. i have 4 tau forged purple for crit damage on my warframe and now seeing two figures which is current crit damage if its the one in red then is it if i add crit damage mods its the greyed out one that increases or is the red one added to what ever the grey one is. someone please help me

[novel bear]

The high value is conditional
It’s what you reached the last time you took it in mission

So it includes the purple shards

Crit damage mods won’t affect it until you take it into another mission

[gray quarry]

Which makes sense, why have them activate when in a relay/orbiter/sanctum

[grand wharf]

gracias papi so in modding i should just look at grey one

[novel bear]

No

You should calculate crit damage outside of arsenal

The red one is your actual crit damage

[grand wharf]

that what im saying

[tidal shell]

Chat does the heat damage from Hate incarnon fuse with modded elements or is it separate?

[grand wharf]

ohh i see it now

[dusky bane]

I'd assume it combines

[novel bear]

It combines

But only on the projectiles

[remote crow]

If I was gonna subsume over vorunas 4 would i use roar or nourish. She has a heavy melee build.

[pearl monolith]

any critics?

[solar reef]

roar
nourish serves no purpose on it

she already has energy sustain and viral priming

[mild stag]

left or right guys?

[mighty pelican]

right gives free punchthrough

saves you a mod slot so preeeety good

• another slot saved for free viral if you were going for viral already

[remote crow]

Kk ty

[tidal shell]

So you can’t have heat and blast on it?

[novel bear]

No

[astral tinsel]

you get free viral from cold progen anyway

[tidal shell]

Ripppp okay, Ty

[naive hinge]

should i get archon intensify for urial ?

[modern vale]

Guys, for Perigale, left or right?

[fierce lark]

if this is for perigale prime, neither

[modern vale]

Why?

[fierce lark]

the stats listed are for base perigale which is 1.15 disposition, perigale prime would get less than half of the listed values

[modern vale]

Ah
So disposition affects it

[gray quarry]

Yeah

[modern vale]

I see I see, ty

[fierce lark]

pretty much all brand new weapons release with the absolute lowest disposition of 0.5

and if the weapon isn't very good or popular, the riven disposition will be increased over time (each prime access, typically) as a means to buff it

it's difficult to even get a usable stat roll for a weapon with 0.5 dispo

[naive hinge]

..

[fierce lark]

yes

so long as you remember to press 2 every 20 seconds or less

[modern vale]

Well this sucks

Can I try to sell that Riven for a decent amount of pl?

[fierce lark]

uh you could try but i doubt you'll get more than 20-30

[dusky bane]

why magnum force
or hollow point

[modern vale]

😞 dam
Okay thank you

[steep abyss]

note* this is unique to every weapon, some weapons are on the exact threshhold that puts them away from the stat required

e.g.
phenmor and felarx - both want a riven mod

and i'm fairly certain you could get 50% cd and 50% multishot from a riven of the perigale

[fierce lark]

absolutely not

[modern vale]

[fierce lark]

phenmor and felarx are slightly more workable with rivens simply because the lack of crit mods give them more filler slots to fit one, but it's still not advisable to spend kuva rolling for them over something with more dispo

negative crit rivens are bait

[wary forge]

I’m confused by that first part

^

[steep abyss]

statistically speaking, it would be the best negative to have on such a weapon when it comes to damage

[dusky bane]

while yes
that alone doesn't make the riven good

[fierce lark]

yes, it is the best in terms of it adding to the overall output, but not by enough that you forego a good positive for it

[steep abyss]

that's correct, now point out where i claimed different?

I merely stated that they are 0.5 and want a riven

[dusky bane]

they're 0.6 and 9 times out of 10 don't want a riven

[fierce lark]

they want a riven about as much as any other 0.5

which is to say they really don't

[steep abyss]

i mean sure, my coda bubonico definitely wants it riven, thus i beg to differ, the damage difference with my riven is pretty huge

[dusky bane]

show riven

[dusky bane]

I can't imagine that improves the build whatsoever

[steep abyss]

which comes to the threshhold of stats which i mentioned already, but who knows,

[fierce lark]

there is no such thing as thresholds lol

aside from hitting 50% cc on your companion weapon

[steep abyss]

what? lmao, that's straight up a lie,

there are certain crit threshholds

"the magnitude or intensity that must be exceeded for a certain reaction, phenomenon, result, or condition to occur or be manifested."
e.g. orange / red crits

[steep abyss]

i'm perfectly certain it does

[fierce lark]

you can hit orange crits at 101% crit chance

you can hit regular crits at 1% crit chance

you can do the same for both at either 99 or 199%

every stat increase multiplies with each other, and are relative to what you're already gaining from other sources

[dusky bane]

ye, those numbers don't mean shit

[steep abyss]

another threshhold is over 100% status effect

[fierce lark]

if you have 200% cc already from critical delay, +40% isn't even noticeable

if you have 360% dmg from primary merciless, 80% more is barely doing anything

if you have 230% multishot from gchamber, adding another 60 is nice, but still not that noticeable

[tidal parrot]

you get
+11 crit chance (roughly)
ms iirc affects the total damage output as well but still stuff you would already be building for
and then the 81.9% damage while it seems like a lot gets instantly out weighed by smthn like serration

if there was a threshold to hit the riven here aint gona do much if anything to help hit it that a normal bubonico build wouldnt already be building for

[fierce lark]

the critical dmg is from ten bond

[steep abyss]

ye, it's ms not cd

[fierce lark]

judging from the change in base dmg from not equipping the riven, im assuming there is no serration on the weapon

[steep abyss]

yes, you proofed my point, 200% is the threshhold

[fierce lark]

?

[tidal parrot]

corrected it

[steep abyss]

yes, ofc not
" Galvanized Savvy is multiplicative to base damage sources on direct hits."

[steep abyss]

why would i ever play serration if galv savvy is multiplicative?

[tidal parrot]

the 200% is from critical deceleration which gives +200% cc for a small hit to fire rate

[steep abyss]

oh, that's what he meant, yea that's fair

[tidal parrot]

because savvy is multiplicitive WITH base damage sources (like serration)

[steep abyss]

right, i don't use serration, i use prime point blank

[fierce lark]

real talk, the riven is just worse than ppb

[gray quarry]

same thing

[tidal parrot]

basically same thing, just for a different weapon type

[fierce lark]

ppb and serration have the same number but ye doesn't matter

[steep abyss]

but they stated i don't use it, but i've stated that i use it, it can be important, it doesn't need to be

[gray quarry]

Show the entire build

[fierce lark]

atp id have to see the build to know what's going on

[gray quarry]

Hence why I said to show

[steep abyss]

additionally, MS increases from 15 to 19

rounding error by approximately 0.1-0.2

valence bonus is 51% magnetic

[tidal parrot]

whats the arcane

[steep abyss]

merciless

or overcharge

[fierce lark]

im assuming you're not using reinforced bond

[gray quarry]

which one is currently equipped

[steep abyss]

merciless

[steep abyss]

i do
5.8 is with reinfoced bond
4.6 is without
idk why it shows it as red

[fierce lark]

reinforced bond is the fire rate one

[steep abyss]

oh, yea i don't want more fire rate on the weapon mb

[dusky bane]

after outsourcing the math, your riven loses about 130k dps

[fierce lark]

beat me to it

but also not wanting fire rate is weird, fire rate = more dps

[steep abyss]

sure, tell me what to change it to, and i'll try it out

[gray quarry]

Ok so you get 165% from ppb and another 360% from merciless, so why use the riven

[steep abyss]

the weapon has enough fire rate

[tidal parrot]

why are we modding for corrosive with magnetic valence instead of magnetic strafe with elec progen?

[steep abyss]

the coda buff literally gives you stacking fire rate

[dusky bane]

I swapped the mag mod for your riven in the calcs, since that's the only slot that makes sense

[gray quarry]

Ah true, I didn’t think of running that instead

[steep abyss]

cannonade doesn't work with bubonico?

[dusky bane]

why would it not work?

[fierce lark]

oh duh

[gray quarry]

Wait, hol on lemme double check

[steep abyss]

bubonico can't equip it?

[dusky bane]

oh, right

[steep abyss]

boys? it's auto

[dusky bane]

semi-cannonade

[gray quarry]

Yeah nah it’s an auto

[dusky bane]

such a weird mod I forgot how it worked

[fierce lark]

thing i still regularly forget

i tried to give cannonade to someone for a kohm build once

[gray quarry]

[dusky bane]

I lowkey forget the mod exists until someone mentions it

[steep abyss]

oh, yes now i understand where you went wrong

[dusky bane]

suuure

[tidal parrot]

your effectively wasting a mod slot modding for corrosive since primary fire has inate toxin and with elec progen you can get corrosive then you can just mod for like blast as well or smthn

[gray quarry]

Yeah but you could have more

[dusky bane]

def wasn't you who did

[gray quarry]

Actually I gotta get my coda bubonico modded, damn so much forma I need to go through

[steep abyss]

the calculation doesn't work for the coda bubonico,
as the weapon gets more fire rate, my problem isn't dps, my problem is the fact that it shoots to fast, i sometimes shoot at the body of a enemy before it even drops,
the weapon needs more ammo, not fire rate,
I can oneshot already pretty much everything, dps is only logical for bosses, also, considering the little amount of ammo the bubonico has the fire rate won't help much?
Because the issue, as i've stated, is that i use my ammo too quickly?
you can say that my dps increases from fire rate, but that kinda ignores the whole issue,

so you'd actually have to do calculus for it, rather than a straight calculation

[gray quarry]

Reload speed

[tidal parrot]

what about pt?

[steep abyss]

reload speed???
doesn't effect the charge up

[tidal parrot]

if your problem is your shooting boddies before they hit the floor thats like prime pt territory

[steep abyss]

it only effects how fast the charge starts

[gray quarry]

Good to know

[steep abyss]

"This weapon does not use ammo pickups; ammo regenerates over time.
Has a 1.5 second delay after the weapon stops firing before regenerating ammo. Then, regenerates 9 ammo per second; takes 4 seconds to regenerate a fully depleted battery excluding the delay. This delay is affected by Reload Speed."

[gray quarry]

Throught it’d affect the recharge speed

[steep abyss]

pt is?
i've only recently swapped to english

[gray quarry]

Lame

[tidal parrot]

punch through

wont help with the boss end but should help with the fodder end if anything

[steep abyss]

mm... but then again, with the additional damage from a certain riven mod,
my beloved ALT fire can already clear the fodder

[steep abyss]

this counts btw for every weapon that has a charge up iirc

[gray quarry]

from a certain pretty much useless riven mod could try mag cap tho, see what that does

[steep abyss]

sure one second

[tidal parrot]

mag strafe

shotguns have magnetic fire rate and rad mag cap

[wary forge]

Don’t use rad ammo cap

[steep abyss]

it does certainly increase the magazine quite a bit, I wonder if the full charge up duration increases or stays same

but hey, i will go into my simulacrum and test it out

[gray quarry]

Worth testing

[steep abyss]

burdened magazine would be best actually

[tidal parrot]

where are you getting magnetic capacity for your bubonico and how do i get it on mine

[steep abyss]

what?

[dusky bane]

crux

[steep abyss]

as it practically has no downside

[tidal parrot]

mag cap is short for magnetic capacity which is a rifle mod, not a shotgun mod

[gray quarry]

[tidal parrot]

(have my ranked mag strage on my bubonico rn)

[past bobcat]

hey so, i know rad turns an enemy against his friends but how do the non-irradiated ones react? do they terminator-style face tank them and hyper focus on you or do they act like real people and shoot back?

[gray quarry]

If an enemy affected by rad shoots another, that one will then be affected by rad and shoot more

[past bobcat]

ah, i see. is there a proc chance on that as well?

[gray quarry]

Maybe? I’m unsure

[steep abyss]

okay, from my testing, what I can see rn is that (i killed 3 orokin each)

The shots required to kill the orokin with the riven mod, are less shots than it is without the riven mod exchanged with another mod,
Mod's i've used are punch through, magacine capacity, and fire rate

Which is obvious, yes, but the key part comes in my alt fire,

all of these stats don't particularly help on the ALT-fire,
but MS and damage helps on it, which means that the additional damage is the teeny tiny bit of damage needed that i can one shot orokin eximus with the alt fire

[gray quarry]

hmmm, maybe the riv is helping just enough but I’m still gonna say you’re wrong

[steep abyss]

okay

[tidal parrot]

(elec progen) and no mods or anything on. i dont think 80% more damage and 60% more ms is gona help the alt fire

[brittle sleet]

Are you only gonna be using it against enemies with the same effective HP as those test enemies you used? Because there's probably more enemies you'll encounter that alt fire isn't killing than ones that it does kill

[dusky bane]

both the riven AND the tox mod are objectively reducing dps
but I guess that's their goal 🤷

[gray quarry]

What would you recommend they do for them to test

[steep abyss]

you still haven't used calculus for the fire rate mister, so that means your calculation is wortheless

[tidal parrot]

this is like roughlythe build you have with a lower amount progen and missing out on like all of 80 base damage

[steep abyss]

i have already explained why

[dusky bane]

well I sent the math sim that showed the dps difference

[brittle sleet]

Comfort is king at the end of the day so if the riven is comfy then that's great but yeah the riven isn't mathematically great

[tidal parrot]

what are you testing this build against specifically out of curiosity

[steep abyss]

uh, corrupted sniper person

[steep abyss]

@dusky bane
as i've already stated, you need calculus for the calculation, because the fire rate of the coda bubonico increases with each shot

[gray quarry]

Comparing with changing progen to tox or elec and going that route?

[dusky bane]

yes, the program accounts for that

[dusky bane]

I just kept progenitor at radiation as it's the best one

and it gives all the builds an extra element for multiCO

[gray quarry]

Rad progen?

Huh

[steep abyss]

what program is this?

[dusky bane]

I mean, I guess their build would rock magnetic, but normally you'd run radiation

[gray quarry]

Nvm read wrong

[dusky bane]

underframe
and I'm still lowkey learning how to use it

so I was doublechecking with the guy who made it

[gray quarry]

If they used 5 forma(I’m guessing they have)they can change the progen to rad

[dusky bane]

idea with rad btw
you use this build
and the radiation mod is the worse of these 2, meaning you'd replace that one with the progenitor and slot fire rate

[steep abyss]

btw, since you've missed the other parts, you've entirely missed the point i assume?

I'll just copy it again for you?
"as the weapon gets more fire rate, my problem isn't dps, my problem is the fact that it shoots to fast, i sometimes shoot at the body of a enemy before it even drops,
the weapon needs more ammo, not fire rate,
I can oneshot already pretty much everything, dps is only logical for bosses, also, considering the little amount of ammo the bubonico has the fire rate won't help much?
Because the issue, as i've stated, is that i use my ammo too quickly?
you can say that my dps increases from fire rate, but that kinda ignores the whole issue,"

The only thing that would actually make this build more efficient is punch through

[dusky bane]

crux

like I said

[steep abyss]

I have absolutely no idea what that is supposed to tell me tbf

[brittle sleet]

Primary Crux is the name of an arcane

[leaden thistle]

Primary Crux, Arcane

[steep abyss]

oh

[brittle sleet]

Probably different in your translation

[steep abyss]

it gives you more, ammo efficiency

[gray quarry]

Primary crux, more status chance and ammo efficiency

[leaden thistle]

...is Bubonico good at precision / weakpoint hits? That's the condition for Crux to activate

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Primary_Crux

[tidal parrot]

with primary its prty good

[gray quarry]

Ammo efficiency means more rounds can be shoved into enemies, since bubonico ramps up firerate, you can keep riunds going out

[tidal parrot]

just point at a head and i belive it should basically cap it out like instantly if you hit most of the shots in the dome since i belive it counts each projecitle as a seperate hit allowing it to build up crux stacks quickly

[gray quarry]

Bit like strun, aim and point at head. Immediate 10x

[leaden thistle]

Was wondering about ease of hitting because Bubonico is a projectile weapon / not hitscan. 57m/s though sounds fast enough to not matter?

[tidal parrot]

i mean assuming your not trying to hit halfway accross the map should be fine

[gray quarry]

Even then you’ll get like 2 stacks atleast

[steep abyss]

i'm getting btw a different result with the same site

[gloomy elm]

is this even good tried to come up with something

[tidal parrot]

archon stretch and archon continuity, growing power i dont think works with her 2/4 since its not a weapon iirc, and then i think people typically just use equilibrium shards for more mod space

[gray quarry]

Looks fine

[gray quarry]

Don’t bother with archon stretch, continuity maybe

[tidal parrot]

think ppl also spec a little heavier into range (with archon /base stretch) and augur reach

[tidal parrot]

i mean why not tho, worse case its a little free energy

(assuming theirs enough capacity for it ig)

[gray quarry]

More capacity, the energy regen isn’t needed either

[dusky bane]

yeah, I was told to set it up so it ignored reload to check the actual dps at max spool

[gloomy elm]

was thinking of putting peparation for energy or maybe shards idk

[steep abyss]

ah, that's fair

[gray quarry]

Not needed, equil and her 3 are plenty. Trust

[tidal parrot]

equil shards and put on stretch so you can nuke more stuff with statuses

[gray quarry]

Especially since you can cast her 2 and keep her 3 up for infinite amounts of time

[novel violet]

Any got a gauss build? I just got him and im still new mr 11 i don't know what to build him yet

[gray quarry]

ability dmg against things affected by elec shards*

[tidal parrot]

arcane aegis + fast deflection 😔

[gloomy elm]

the thing is i get 80 energy at spawn so ye

[steep abyss]

zenurik

[gray quarry]

You got an energy pad?

[tidal parrot]

nah everythings gona be dead before you get to proc that unless your using dirga or a hound🥀

[gloomy elm]

oh yeah that is a thing

[gray quarry]

Throw 1 down at the start, cast 3, melee 1 enemy, cast 4 and start killing then cast 2 and nuke

[tidal parrot]

should 100% swap off growing power tho

[gloomy elm]

oke thx

[dusky bane]

if you have 9 free capacity in your build, you'll start with enough energy to cast 3 at start

[tawdry bolt]

I have a probably a dumb question does Molt Efficiency work with dessacrate?

[dusky bane]

probably reduces the energy cost

no, it doesn't

[tawdry bolt]

Ah, thank you

Welp that's a shame

[wary forge]

Steel fiber on nekros

[tawdry bolt]

Yeah I haven't touched his mods in a long time. I think I did him when i was sub 50 hours in and didn't bother doing any changes until today

[gloomy elm]

idk if i have i might forma primed flow

[wary forge]

I would just lazy gate/active gate

Lazy gating is nice if ur using the augment just an extra layer of tanky mess

[gleaming vapor]

note: ballistic bullseye is giving ocucor multicrit

for some reason

it’s not even sentient surge, I took ts off and got a t5 crit

[prime scarab]

Is Airburst the only pull ability that also pulls environmental stuff?

[gleaming vapor]

pull pulls environmental stuff

[wary forge]

Mags pull does

[prime scarab]

Hm. Okay. Does Nidus?

I'm having an incredible time with Follie using Airburst and just trying to see if there are any other group effects that'll also pull the arc trap along

[wary forge]

Just like throw the traps where u want to go

[prime scarab]

That is not quite as effective in situations with many enemies as putting the trap and then pulling enemies into it.

Plus with Airburst I can kill enemies through walls by pinning the trap to the roof or the wall. Its really fun.

How about coil horizon? does that pull objects?

[kind shore]

hey whats a dump stat

[violet silo]

on who

[prime scarab]

A stat you don't need for your build so you can comfortably reduce to low numbers

[violet silo]

oh that was the question

[prime scarab]

Yeah I think he meant like literally lol

[violet silo]

to add on, dump stats are for corrupted mod use, since they reduce a stat in exchange for another.

most commonly efficiency is a dump stat, where you take off a lot of efficiency by running blind rage, which gives a lot of strength.

[prime scarab]

Its also pretty commonly referenced in warframe building.

Some frames simply don't need certain stats so they're dump stats.

Strength on a roarless Follie, for example.

(not that you don't know, just linking to the conversation)

[gray quarry]

On obviously

[gray quarry]

The stat that you din’t need for that build, like for most builds efficiency becomes the dump stat due to having a way to generate energy(equil and oraxias 1, vorunas 3, novas passive, follies passive, etc)

Eff is the most common dump stat, some others include range on mirage(or keep it neutral, doesn’t matter) or idk for other frames

[cobalt token]

Probably a dumb question but does Voruna's 4 count as melee?

[kind shore]

in some cases yes in other cases no, its really werid

[lavish orbit]

No, only for her kit and achievement such has hollvanie missions

[prime scarab]

Interesting followup.

What are some fun frames to put kullervo subsume on?

I'm finally considering building a melee next now that my Follie is "finished"

I've been considering Uriel and Voruna

[rocky mason]

Everyone you plan to use a melee weapon with

It's honestly overkill to even do it but you get many red crits

[ember surge]

Only for Lycath's Hunt kills

So, no

[viscid bone]

Hey chat, is Teshin's orvius any good?

Dang I killed chat

[drifting hare]

anyone got a good build for voruna and nikana prime?

[mighty flare]

there voruna examples in: #1492606866482794601 message

[steep abyss]

not great but good

don't ever sell it tho, as getting it again is hard

[viscid bone]

Not gonna

[drifting hare]

ah alr thanks!

[viscid bone]

I got an astral twilight stance mod a little while ago and that's why I asked, thank you!

[noble depot]

left or right

[wary forge]

Yikes

Both are bad

I guess left

[drifting tree]

Which one?

[simple frost]

First time trying to builds, i have no idea on how to get any of the mods i just went with the flow
https://overframe.gg/build/999586/?saved=1776286271538
https://overframe.gg/build/999580/?saved=1776285484437

Any suggestions?

[wary forge]

Second one

[fierce lark]

neither and probably don't waste your kuva

as per a convo that happened a few hours ago, perigale prime has 0.5 dispo and getting a usable riven is going to be very difficult, and even a usable one will be an extremely minor benefit over a regular mod

[frozen grail]

Anyone got reccomendations for kullervo subsumes for his 4? I know his 4 is good but I find that I dont use it much

Some ones I saw that I was considering were:
Roar, eclipse, nourish, warcry, breach surge, and ophamam eyes but im open to other suggestions!

[near vortex]

Omamori

Wrathful Advance gives more than enough damage for most things so you don't necessarily need more damage

[past mason]

Ok, sorry it took so long. This is my current Excal Umbra load out/build

[umbral notch]

Does Archon Vitality do anything for Lizzie on Temple

[novel bear]

Yes

Archon mods work with all exalteds

[naive hinge]

just got voruna what do u suggest ? i wanna do the BIg nUke

[near vortex]

one does not simply nuke with Voruna 4

[naive hinge]

Wt ): ?

[near vortex]

you see
Voruna four does not nuke

[naive hinge]

buu it does do good damage

[near vortex]

I wouldn't say good

I'd say just okay to low

[dusky bane]

It's usable

[near vortex]

Any nuking on Voruna is either with a melee or her 2

[naive hinge]

i am getting millions with that bad build 🗿 @dusky bane@near vortex

[near vortex]

low damage tbh

try billions

[dusky bane]

It's usable in all relevant content
But it's nothing spectacular
Which is a shame cause it's really fun

[naive hinge]

Nuh let me in my comfort zone

[naive hinge]

yeh the fun part is the most important

[mighty flare]

more range, equilibrium over nexus and overextended over archon vitality
dont really need expertise

[little linden]

Hey y'all so will the mod Heavy Impact's buff stack on Zephyr's dive bomb attack I wanna work 'er up?

[naive hinge]

tried equilibrium didnt work for me
how to get good strengh while using overextended ?

[little linden]

Also any Zephyr's wanna give advice cause imma main dis tibch till I get past her passive floaty mobility buff

[dusky bane]

Melee Fangs of Raksh (muzzle flash/grouping): https://overframe.gg/build/395644/
Ulfrun's Descent Focused (non-helminth): https://overframe.gg/build/410147/

There's the 2 voruna builds that people run

First one is general build, second is for her 4

[dusky bane]

Wdym didn't work 💀

[naive hinge]

idk

i didnt have energy

[naive hinge]

are arcanes here important ?

[dusky bane]

Press 3
Melee
Profit

She literally generates infinite energy

[naive hinge]

playing her4 ? 🙂

[dusky bane]

Useful, but not mandatory

[dusky bane]

Her 4 counts as melee for 1 and 3

[naive hinge]

aaah

if i am not in energy problem with nexux can i let it ? it feels more comfy

why is range so important ?

[charred gale]

https://tenor.com/view/eric-eric-tao-ken-leung-industry-industry-hbo-gif-13702557412707969815

[dusky bane]

It's just worse

[dusky bane]

So her 2 spreads

[naive hinge]

):

[near vortex]

There's also roar, wrathful, Xatas depending on melee you platform

I know someone who uses Infested Mobility over 4 on a build

[dusky bane]

How is like 1 energy per second more comfy than like 100 energy per kill

[dusky bane]

All of those are listed in the muzzle flash build

Also her 4 now boosts movespeed so thats diabolical

[mighty flare]

more range on her 2 & 4 makes it better nuking (since ur using it), example: #1492606866482794601 message

tho instead of melee ur using 4

[mighty flare]

turn on her 3 then kill with melee/4, use molt augmented instead of expertise

[naive hinge]

dont have molt

[dusky bane]

Get it

[naive hinge]

what about like this ? + will precision inten better ?

[dusky bane]

Like a staple arcane and it's hilariously easy to farm

[near vortex]

play Void Cascade :angelicthinking:

[naive hinge]

how ?

[dusky bane]

Zariman

[naive hinge]

whats this 🙂 i always hear it but i dont know what is it

[near vortex]

It's a game mode

[naive hinge]

hows this now ?

[near vortex]

Best build stress tester in the game and pretty profitable when fissure

[dusky bane]

Arcane expertise does nothing

Rest looks ok

Level the arcanes ideally

[naive hinge]

3 , for games that doesnt have many enemies

[cinder shoal]

What are we thinking?

[dusky bane]

I never play missions with that low of an enemy count

[dusky bane]

You removed your survivability ability
To put on breach surge

Imo not cooking

[cinder shoal]

It has 40m range blind and if you play her 4 constantly you shouldn’t really be going down anyway as you can build up a 6mil damage nuke but I haven’t tried bringing it to level cap so I’m lk nervous of a stray one shot

[dusky bane]

If only there was a mechanic that protected from oneshots
And in protea's case gave 3 seconds of immunity

Hmm, what could that be

[cinder shoal]

Yeah but ain’t their a tech to sheild gate with companions now was thinking about setting that up

[sturdy vault]

niche inaros question: using sandstorm augment, does impetus proc?

[opal leaf]

Which companions tho, bc there is like their version of Fast Deflection

I think all companions have that

[cinder shoal]

I mean this manifold bond from my testing supply’s a full sheild refresh as long you debuff enemies pretty consistently

I’m using diriga or however you spell it with a status setup on the prisma burst laser

[cinder shoal]

Then there’s also

[opal leaf]

Mostly for warframe but yeah

[cinder shoal]

Yeah the acceleated deflection I think is the one your thinking of

It’s the faster regen and then the -delay

[magic crescent]

Does anyone have a sp gun platform build for both oraxia and saryn prime? Plan on using kuva sobek with the two. Also want progenitor element is best for using sobek with them two?

[opal leaf]

Yuppers

[opal leaf]

Toxin

It's been the most heard progenitor element when it comes to Sobek, Toxin, for Oraxia, Cyte and Saryn

[cinder shoal]

I mean you could go for cold for viral or double dip toxin but I’m not sure if the damage buff from the skills are additive or multipiticative if you already have toxin

[opal leaf]

That smth to be asked from the experts bc they've been telling that it does "Extra Hit" or do shitty shenanigans With Acid Shells Aug

[fierce lark]

progenitor doesn't matter, would do this build on saryn

[magic crescent]

Any reason against toxic lash augment?

[mighty flare]

Precision?

[fierce lark]

to save the umbral forma mostly

i imagine pint on roar does very similar dmg to uint

[fierce lark]

what does the lash augment even do

[mighty flare]

You don’t even have her augment slotted

[fierce lark]

yeah im cooked, put that there instead

[fierce lark]

i have genuinely never seen this lol

[magic crescent]

Oh yea venom dose too

[fierce lark]

1 aug is the imortant one, 3 aug doesn't do anything, i dont think the cloud dmg is affected by anything on your gun so it's purely base dmg buffed by roar

[mighty flare]

Saryn Sobek likes arcane tempo too

[junior wind]

Anyone got any tips for how to build voruna?

[magic crescent]

I mixed up the two augments honestly, contagion seems to be more for melee platform saryn

[fierce lark]

nah

it looks okay in theory but saryn does way more damage than what this augment is capable of adding

[mighty flare]

Examples in: #1492606866482794601 message

[fierce lark]

it doesn't scale at all

i suppose you could uh

do really high range high strength with acid shells for lower lvl stuff

and afk with contagion clouds xd

but spores already does that without the str requirement

[magic crescent]

No you right on venom dose, i mixed up the augments

[fierce lark]

yeah saryn's augs kinda stink besides that one

regenerative molt would be kinda cool if the number was like 3x higher what it is currently

actually

regenerative molt is super nice for early game survivability

65 hp/s just with intensify is decent early game sustain

[naive hinge]

If I subsumed voruna 3'rd for roar or the ability that increase the next ability will this benefits her 4th ?

[mighty flare]

Yes, but use roar, not the other

[naive hinge]

Can I use the same subsumed a ability on more than one frame ?

[mighty flare]

You can have roar on several frames
Yes

[opal leaf]

Imagine if we can put 2 subsumed ability on a frame :3

[frail wagon]

Thoughts on this

[opal leaf]

Sure, it's cool

I mean this is my Follie build because why not

She has no focus anyways

[cinder shoal]

I was thinking about setting up a follie build up I’ve heard roar is one of the few buffs in the game that affect the rpg

[opal leaf]

I haven't heard of that

Her damage is base on health

[cinder shoal]

I haven’t tested it personally yet ngl

[opal leaf]

Scaled on health I mean

[cinder shoal]

Oh really I haven’t even heard about that ngl

[opal leaf]

Eh it's been there for a while and it's been tested by few, even me

[hollow scarab]

whats a good subsume to put on khora if i wanna use her in the labs to farm stella?

on sp

[opal leaf]

Rawr... Still

Or nourish for her cat

[hollow scarab]

over what? her 2?

or her cat

[near vortex]

Roar is good because it works on barrels too

[cinder shoal]

I see her abilities scale with enemy level like xakus void guns that’s really cool I did think it was a under used scaling metric

[mighty flare]

They don’t, almost everything is just by max health

[opal leaf]

As I said they scale through health

[cinder shoal]

Apparently the rpg and amphora scale with level in specific

From what people have found

[opal leaf]

I doubt

Bc from what we tested all from health

But I can't argue much or else... Yeah

I'll just leave it be

[cinder shoal]

Idk I found this on a couple Reddit posts but it could have just been confusion since health scaling would mimic level scaling to a extent

[mighty flare]

Anyway roar follie is good, there’s examples in: #1487164102379049051 message

if you wanna look at something

[wary brook]

hey anyone got advice for modding Uriel

[cinder shoal]

I found it on the wiki people were wrong about the amphors it’s exclusively the rpg that scales with level

[opal leaf]

Go range, then Durstion lastly is sttength

Leave Effeciency

[solar reef]

functionally the same in the sense that they do the same amount of damage regardless of level

[wary brook]

Oh? May I ask why? his abilities work well with Arcane Hot Shot

[opal leaf]

Range to swallow the area as far and large as possible

Duration so that it'll linger longer

Strength as not that much needed because he procs so much heat if you have his 1 always on

Efficiency, leave that bc he make enemies explode on health and energy orbs, just use flow and equilibrium and you're good

[wary brook]

Solid I appreciate the help

[cinder shoal]

The only difference would be enemies with more health would take the same amount of damage which could let high health units tank but idk if there’s much in the game that tanks the RPG anyway im thinking ti may I yk make a difference in level cap content as unlike the other abilities it doesn’t seem to scale to armor

[opal leaf]

I just use the RPG for Acolyte and boss killing hahaha I never really used it on anything else, I go Arc Trap always

[cinder shoal]

No I get that barrels and traps seem better for everything that isn’t named violence lol

[prime scarab]

So I'm really enjoying my Follie build where I use Airburst to group enemies and arc trap to kill the enemies in that group.

Are there any frames that mirror this gameplay style of pulling enemies into groups and then exploding that group? I prefer it to the room-wide nuke stuff.

[cinder shoal]

Qorvex maybe but he’s super slow

His math on paper can scale pretty high but his two feels super clunkly imo

[wary brook]

okay putting something together on Overframe. For strength I was planning on one mod. can't choose. ideas are energy conversion, Amar's Hatred, or Umbral Intensify. what you think?

[opal leaf]

Blind Rage

Again, leave efficiency, you don't need it

[prime scarab]

Yeah, I like the Gorilla's concept but he is...very tough to move around with.

[opal leaf]

Vauban....

Group through 4 and explode through 3

[cinder shoal]

Also a great pick!

[opal leaf]

There is Styanax too

I know my CC frames hahahaha, that's my name!

[prime scarab]

Ooh interesting, I just checked him out. If I reverse his hold/tap does it function kinda like airburst with just a one button grouping?

[wary brook]

was going to have Archon Vitality to make up differencebut trusting your call

[opal leaf]

Let me see the buuld

Bc archon vitality is needed

[cinder shoal]

There’s also nidus but I do think he’s fallen off pretty hard

[opal leaf]

It's act more like than airburst

It swallows EVERYTHING it touches the range until the duration is gone

[wary brook]

one sec need to remake it

[prime scarab]

Oh, cool, as long as I don't have to press the button twice to group I'm good with that

[opal leaf]

He is more of a Soloist immortal weapon at former (though augment)

[opal leaf]

Just hold the 4 and there you go

In Vauban I mean

[prime scarab]

Oh shit Styanax 1 looks so fun too

[opal leaf]

Yeah you need to hit one enemy for it to happen hahaha

My best guess if you really one a swallow boom boom action

Vauban is my pick

[prime scarab]

Yeah, I'll give him a go, thanks!

[cinder shoal]

I’ve heard that nidus is actually a pretty fun weapon platform now

[dreamy granite]

does anyone know a good pre the new war ureil build

[cinder shoal]

But you need a ton of punch through

[opal leaf]

Range to swallow the area as far and large as possible

Duration so that it'll linger longer

Strength as not that much needed because he procs so much heat if you have his 1 always on

Efficiency, leave that bc he make enemies explode on health and energy orbs, just use flow and equilibrium and you're good

Uriel build

[dreamy granite]

thanks

[wary brook]

sent it to you direct

[prime scarab]

Cast speed on vaubans 3 looks long. Is the delay baked in or will cast speed shards fix that?

[opal leaf]

2 casting speed shard

1 is enough but for comfy so 2

[prime scarab]

Perfect, thats my go-to on every frame these days anyway lol

Okay yeah I'll go snag a vauban prime set and get this guy cookin, he looks fun

[opal leaf]

Good luck on his prime set hahahahaha he is very expensive in materials

[cinder shoal]

Ooh do you think nidus meatball on cyte 09 could make for a interesting gun platform

[prime scarab]

15 nitain, jeeeeeeeeez, you aint lyin

9000 Cryotic??

Who did this

I need to talk to rebecca this is absurd

[gray quarry]

Anything I need to change?

[prime scarab]

9000 Cryotic? 20 Nitain? 31000 Alloy Plate? 7000 Oxium?

Why do the devs hate vauban players

[opal leaf]

No, you're good

[opal leaf]

It's the CC frame man... You need to suffer to get one of the best frames in game (mostly biased hahahaha)

[cinder shoal]

Ah never mind I forgot how much they nuked subsume larva

[prime scarab]

I GUESS

I wonder what I'll subsume on him. He seems like I could put a comfy skill there and be fine.

[opal leaf]

There are a lot

But the go to subsume slot mostly is his 1 and 3

Go nourish as it apply viral it on his 2, his 2 acts as a weapon

[prime scarab]

oh cool so its a semi exalted kinda thing

Poor man doesn't even have a signature weapon though?

[opal leaf]

Cannot be modded tho

[opal leaf]

Anything can be his

[prime scarab]

I guess. I just like playing frames with their signatures lol

[opal leaf]

I go Vauban and Acceltra

Vauban and Torid

Vauban and Cedo

And Vauban and Boar

[prime scarab]

Greedy Gara gets a billion signatures and they cant give Vauban one? Sad

[prime scarab]

I love the Torid and Cedo. I haven't gottan an Acceltra yet tho.

I only started playing seriously about 2 months ago lol

[opal leaf]

Use it

I don't even use Torid with his Incarnon mode

Bc his smoke grenades have some interesting stuff hahaha

[prime scarab]

His heirloom skin looks cool at least

[opal leaf]

Yup

[rocky mason]

I got so many cryotic to build him that I kept going and funded the knux research for my clan basically by myself

[fierce lark]

okay but do you have a sibair fryer

[shrewd badger]

for uriels nuke build should i follow warframeflo’s roar build or ninjases build

[mighty flare]

whats the difference

[maiden cargo]

hmm builds are just guidelines for you

see similarity and just edit to suit build

[shrewd badger]

one subsumes with roar and has slightly different mods and the other subsumes bright bonnet or sickening oulse

pulse*

[mighty flare]

roar has to go over his 3 which makes building up brimstone much slower
if energy isn't an issue, you can try sickning pulse

maybe stuff like wyrd or viral tempest could work ig

[shrewd badger]

do you have a better way to build him or do you think roar is necessary

[mighty flare]

i dont like roar on uriel if you want to focus on nuking with brimstone cuz it makes it slower
iirc i run nourish with overall high stats in range/str/dur on a hybrid setup

you dont need roar yea

[shrewd badger]

ahh gotcha gotcha ok

[pearl monolith]

these are all I have at the moment XD

[cinder isle]

Heyy, what are the strongest DPS weapons for Mirage? Atm I play Epitaph but I know it's more functioning as a primer, would love to know other weapons I can jump a lot around with and some good aoe

[severe zephyr]

can I have some regulator builds? I feel like my mesa is kinda pathetically weak

[weary frigate]

She works great with any glaive, since all of her clones attack instead of just 3.
What's your MR? Coda bubonico is a nice one for her, huge AoE, good single target damage, no ammo issue

If you like incarnon then there's latron incarnon, a grenade launcher with multishot evo

[gleaming vapor]

give me a sec

that’s a relatively standard build

swap anemic agility for primed pistol gambit

anemic is better than ppg if you have

• less than a hotshot of external cc (300%) and have outburst
• less than hotshot +1 tau shard (375%) and don’t have outburst

[cinder isle]

Mr19, started playing a month ago and I am hooked! Voruna is my favourite but I feel in love with Mirage

[gleaming vapor]

(with outburst I am assuming 12x)

[cinder isle]

I love the Akarius but the knockback is soo annoying, on the Epitaph it's fine but god damn the Akarius XD

[gleaming vapor]

just psf smh

[weary frigate]

Akarius kinda requires PSF or overguard to work comfortably

[cinder isle]

I do use Handspring, it's okay but still annoying

[weary frigate]

They started playing just a month ago

[gleaming vapor]

just time travel smh

[cinder isle]

So I am wondering if there is a strong DPS weapon with the same potential of the Akarius and less knockback problems

[gleaming vapor]

zawfluence

[weary frigate]

yea, mirage can work with that, or any glaive is fine.
If you want damage, no knock back guns, try beam. Ocucor, kuva nukor, or well, torid incarnon

[shell tundra]

I just got Wolp Lady(Voruna Prime) from my foundry. TL;DR what stats does she like?

[maiden cargo]

weapon ? meaning primary / melee too right

[shrewd badger]

this good?

[mighty flare]

strength then range/duration: https://discord.com/channels/552966801558863896/1492606866482794601

[cinder isle]

Yes!

[maiden cargo]

theres a lot of weapons tbh

incarna weapons are mostly popular

there is also kuva / tenet / coda weapons

sorry vage answer but yeah too much to go through

beam weapons mostly best for aoe that has less knock back

[mighty flare]

looks ok, consider using equilibrium & overextended to replace adaptation and free up energize

[maiden cargo]

nukor , tenet glax , torid few example

[gray quarry]

Boar better than torid

[shrewd badger]

gotcha ok one sec

[gray quarry]

Def slot in equil, probably drop adaptation for overextended and augur reach for equil(or stretch but swap its spot with augur reach first)

[shrewd badger]

what if i have a purple shard instead of equil

ooh gotcha

how do i hit millions of aoe from brimstone

[gray quarry]

That I’m unsure, I’m helpin figure the build out

[mighty flare]

dont like blind rage uriel with only 1 equil shard

[shrewd badger]

this?

[crisp pine]

for garuda what is best heminith for her (if she is invis)

[cinder isle]

Is Dual Keres good with melee influence?

[shell tundra]

Can someone put in simple terms how Voruna’s Prey of Dynar augment works? I am legiterally lost ;-;

[mighty flare]

Yea that looks fine, you can use arcane concentration

[gray quarry]

What’s your energy color

[shell tundra]

Blue : )

[shrewd badger]

i dont have arcane concentration yet :/

[mighty flare]

You go invis with her 1, there’ll be a marked enemy, you use her 2 then kill them and they go boom: #1492606866482794601 message

[gray quarry]

Which square, the front or back

[shell tundra]

I haven’t formad yet : (

[mighty flare]

Go farm for it then in 1999 or molt efficiency

[quiet laurel]

nourish

[shrewd badger]

gotcha ok

[crisp pine]

wait why norish? could explain?

[gray quarry]

Alr, when you cast it, it marks an enemy. The enemy will be the same color as your front energy color so make sure it’s a lighter color, when you cast her 2 on it, it gets the spread radius +150% of that radius

[gray quarry]

Prime viral with her 4, also 1 cast of her 3 for energy

[quiet laurel]

nourish affects her 3 energy gain which means less time casting
it also affects the damage of her 1 and 4 and makes her 4 apply viral

[gray quarry]

Run molt reconstruct for heakth recovery(either r0 or r5, doesn’t matter)

[mighty flare]

heakth

[gray quarry]

[quiet laurel]

heakth

[gray quarry]

Cba to fix it so

[pliant kite]

What's a good weapons platform frame that synergizes with the Trumna?

I always loved the feel of this gun but could never get it to perform as good as other rifles

[quiet laurel]

cyte

[mighty flare]

Zephyr

[crisp pine]

so it does more then just roar or breach surge?

[gray quarry]

For some odd reason the trumna just doesn’t do much damage compared to other rifles

[pliant kite]

it does...in the grenade lol

[gray quarry]

have fun charging the grenade when your bullets hit for 5 damage

[mighty flare]

Roar gives more slash damage from her 4, but that doesn’t matter since builds focus on one-tapping with her 1

[pliant kite]

yeah i saw that synergy, might consider it

[gray quarry]

I can 1 tap acolytes with her 1, trust

[maiden cargo]

this means her casting her 4 / deactivation speed right ?
it does not mean casting time of her attack animation ?

[gray quarry]

Test it, or see if malz is here

[maiden cargo]

MAAAL

https://tenor.com/view/shiba-max-shibenation-shibe-radio-gif-26091793

[gray quarry]

ping him

[spice willow]

can anyone donate zephyr augments 🙏

[quiet laurel]

no

[gray quarry]

Drascho can

[quiet laurel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/764595134590877728/1399319486666113065/cSODXeNN.gif

[gray quarry]

[maiden cargo]

btw if someone ask
by -pass dont stack
i found 2 and still 2x speed

[spice willow]

2 plat for jet stream and funnel cloud?

[quiet laurel]

I dont even know if I have the syndicate gng 🙏 😭

[gray quarry]

[maiden cargo]

i found 3 by pass still 2x

oh nvm i think it increase duration

maybe 2x didnt last long

i thought bypass last 5min at least hmm

[gray quarry]

30 seconds from what I heard

[crisp pine]

am i building too much range for garuda?

[quiet laurel]

nah looks good

tho idk if archon intensify will be able to proc

since you are not healing via abilities technically

[gray quarry]

Lemme go check

Does not work

[maiden cargo]

dont trust archon intensify much its too much a hussle

[quiet laurel]

also hope you are running lots of casting speed shards

garuda really likes those

[crisp pine]

i had for one of my other builds for her but I forgot to change things around

[crisp pine]

4 cast speed shards

[maiden cargo]

for example i have one for my wisp but re casting molt after getting intensify proc is hussle

[quiet laurel]

molt?

you mean motes?

[crisp pine]

could someone explain to me why arachne works with garuda?

[maiden cargo]

yeah motes

[quiet laurel]

arachne is a buff to all your weapons in the loadout and garudas 1 and 4 are coded as weapons

[crisp pine]

HUH

[quiet laurel]

certain abilities are coded as weapons

[opal leaf]

Ooo that's why it can be applied with Nourish

[quiet laurel]

also the reason why nourish can apply its viral to 1 and 4

[opal leaf]

I was confused on why it scatter viral as well hahahaha

I though it's just her 1

[crisp pine]

well shit... what do i put here

in the intensify?

blind rage?

[quiet laurel]

can run blind rage ye

garuda doesnt care about energy consumption anyway

[opal leaf]

What was that one energy thing that if you use an ability it'll heal you? So that it can act as a loop of I finite energy

[quiet laurel]

molt reconstruct

[opal leaf]

Ohhh aight thanks

[shrewd badger]

@mighty flare i think i finished the build if you wanna take a look now, turns out i did have arcane concentration

[shell tundra]

Is [Archon Flow] viable on Voruna given that she can semi consistently put out cold procs?

[mighty flare]

no

[mighty flare]

nice

[shrewd badger]

how do i hit millions of damage tho

[quiet laurel]

cant think of a single frame archon flow is viable on

[crisp pine]

I am running into some smaller hiccup with my mesa build. although the only problem now is damage but I have no idea what could amp it more at the moment. I mostly solve her survivability problems.

[shrewd badger]

any way to make the build stronger?

[crisp pine]

she kill things decently fast but she not mega damage mode

she might struggle in higher level of like level 500-1000 enemies

[mighty flare]

viral/hi priming

[shrewd badger]

grimoire?

also how does brimstone scale in damage?

[gleaming vapor]

few problems with this build i’m seein

why do we have augur secrets

[crisp pine]

extra strength mostly

[gleaming vapor]

swap scorch and merciless gunfight for viral

[gleaming vapor]

24 strength isn’t doing shit

[crisp pine]

the only reason why i am using heat is due to the three orange shards I am still using. Should just lean more into viral then?

[gleaming vapor]

go viral heat

[crisp pine]

won't that mess with weighting?

or that won't matter?

[gleaming vapor]

it’ll proc

[crisp pine]

okay as for augur secrets Have no cluse what to put there is just there for extra strength. Muzzle flash from testing barely did much though.

[gleaming vapor]

don’t do muzzle flash for persistence

you need enemies to shoot you for energy econ

could always slot a bit of duration

some extra duration never hurt

[crisp pine]

I guess regular continuity i guess

[gleaming vapor]

also I’d drop handspring for parkour velocity since mesa is innately knockdown immune in 4

but that’s just preference honestly

[crisp pine]

wait what

[gleaming vapor]

yea

she is

[crisp pine]

damn

[gray quarry]

All I heard was slot psf

[gleaming vapor]

i feel like this message is specifically to not slot psf

[gray quarry]

psf is the only good exilus mod

[gleaming vapor]

nah

ice spring 🔛🔝

[gray quarry]

Firewalker better

[gleaming vapor]

directly disinheriting yourself 😭

[crisp pine]

i have that and I barely use it. The drain on it so expensive

[gray quarry]

damn it you’re right

[crisp pine]

i kind of screw myself with that polarity though

[gleaming vapor]

you can move the polarity

[gray quarry]

He’d have to throw another forma on regardless

[gleaming vapor]

prolly not

swap aura and exilus polarities

[midnight forum]

Does strength on follie help the gears in her 2 or just the splash when selecting a gear

[gleaming vapor]

shouldn’t be running anything else besides cproj on mesa anyway

[mighty flare]

just the splash

[gray quarry]

I don’t think aura can be moved, never tried

[midnight forum]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-mad-cat-mad-gif-617855691051511206

[blazing granite]

how good is this?

[midnight forum]

Trash

Ill take it

Bc its totally trash

[blazing granite]

😭

[midnight forum]

Seen its flux rifle nvm

[gray quarry]

Don’t trust them, that’s worth atleast 1000p

[gleaming vapor]

it can

[crisp pine]

himm would coaction drift do work here

[gray quarry]

I’ll keep that in mind

[gleaming vapor]

no

[blazing granite]

deadass? im not very smart with Warframe

[gleaming vapor]

it’s like maybe 40p at most ngl

2p0n on a mid weapon

[gray quarry]

I mean you can price it however you want tbh. I pulled that pricing out of thin air

[blazing granite]

okay then, thanks yall

[gray quarry]

unless you’re selling to @midnight forum then price it 1p above their current owned plat

nah don’t do that I’m messin

[dense abyss]

I need a little help to undestand something about Nekros, when u have stacks of Health Conversion and u have summons alive with Shield of Shadows, you lost the stacks ou keep?

[blazing granite]

🫡

[crisp pine]

well toxic flight it is

[gray quarry]

Toxic flight is the worst one

[gleaming vapor]

toxic flight is not the worst one

[gray quarry]

it is

[gleaming vapor]

that would be firewalker

me when heat disinherit

[gray quarry]

[toxic cypress]

anyone got a speedva or slowva build?

[gleaming vapor]

same build

[crisp pine]

either that or we uyse peculiar audience or peculiar end as I got nothing that fits

[gleaming vapor]

toxic flight will work

[gray quarry]

No need to build speed or slow, just use the same build since she’s a tap for slow hold for speed

[clear cradle]

Anyone know amazing builds for xaku prime and gauss prime

[crisp pine]

this is the other side of the mesa but this build just dies so quickly. i think literally everything i did could save this thing. also the reason why i was not able switch out the polarity is that it would have kick out the muzzle flash there

[gleaming vapor]

lock in and shield gate

slot augur reach over rolling guard honestly

[crisp pine]

the game play loop of this side is kind of bad honestly bad. Problem with shield gating here is that you have drop out of regulators though to use abilities. also yeah maybe rolling guard should just be augur reach though

[gleaming vapor]

it’s honestly not that bad if you’re not in endurance

if you are, you can put nourish over 3 and shield gate with 1 while in 4

[midnight forum]

https://tenor.com/view/gato-enojado-insano-waza-gif-27541362

[gray quarry]

[crisp pine]

oh that might work better. also, I hate how her 3 is so outdated

[gleaming vapor]

(funny quirk with her 3 tho, reflected bullets proc secondary fortifier)

[midnight forum]

Self portrait caps at 95% right