builds-discussion

[violet silo]

so put those two in

[hushed harbor]

take what out for them

[novel bear]

Or you could do persistence and rage on valkyr

[surreal tusk]

i heard some people saying that i should use a build that has hunter munitions for slash. do u think thats worth going for?

[violet silo]

duplex, pulse

[violet silo]

I find equi to be best

[novel bear]

Fury isn’t very good on valkyr, and adaptation isn’t doing much

Put on battery if you’re not using persistence

[hushed harbor]

i dont have persistence r5 yet

[lean tendon]

This is my build for pure Electricity. You can change Shred to Speed Trigger, Amalgam Serration to Serration, Vigilante Supplies to Terminal Velocity, Critical Delay to Galvanized Scope, and High Voltage to Stormbringer.

[novel bear]

Doesn’t need r5, valkyr can outheal r0

[warm obsidian]

I'm assuming left

[surreal tusk]

thank u bro 🙏🙏

[lean tendon]

Idk how good it will be for Zephyr specifically but for other frames it's pretty good

Longbow Sharpshot can be replaced by Primary Merciless or Deadhead, I prefer Deadhead.

[novel bear]

Zephyr prefers aoe weapons I think
And there’s a bug with bows for her tornadoes iirc, where it treats all shots as uncharged shots

I may be wrong about that though

[surreal tusk]

what other weapons are good for zephyr? preferably ones that aren't a pain to get.

[novel bear]

What weapons do you have?

[surreal tusk]

nothing that would be better than nataruk for zephyr

[novel bear]

If you can get trumna it’s good for her

[serene plume]

does this topaz option on mesa work if the regulars have more than just heat modded, on, like heat + electric

[surreal tusk]

when i find builds for it am i meant to find the best overall one or one specified for zephyr?

[serene plume]

or is crimson just better

[surreal tusk]

like is it worth trying to search for one

[novel bear]

Standard trumna build should work

[novel bear]

Are you dealing heat damage or are you dealing radiation damage?

[serene plume]

radiation

[novel bear]

Then change it to corrosive heat

Much better

[serene plume]

how do u make it corrosive heat, just move the mods around?

[novel bear]

Put on a toxin mod to combine with the electric mod

[serene plume]

ah, ight

[novel bear]

And make sure it goes before the heat mod

[warm obsidian]

Left or Right

[novel bear]

Right

[maiden lance]

Hello, I need a good slash focused primary to use with my Necros for resource farming in Steel Path.
Any suggestions?

[novel bear]

Easier to just use amalgam ripkas mod

[solemn kiln]

dread

[lean tendon]

Get the Ripkas + its exclusive Amalgam mod from the Ropalyst boss. Turn on Gore in the settings. Your secondary and primary weapons will get the passive as well. Way easier than getting a slash focused weapon.

Well I guess not easier but more like more convenient since you can use any Primary/Secondary you want. And Ripkas design is cool.

[maiden lance]

Already got ti, does it not stack with slash focused weapons?

[novel bear]

No

[mental ivy]

we eating good tn (40 rolls cos i bought it w 80 sum)

[maiden lance]

Where si the gore settings under?

[lean tendon]

you can just use the search feature but it should be in the System

[novel bear]

Think it’s on by default

What normally happens to corpses when you kill them?

[maiden lance]

Ah, I see it, already turned on, thank you!

[little vault]

how dose my volt prime look like ? i am get him soon pillage ability instead of schock for shield gating ,armor strip ,cc nuking ,energy sustain is this good or should i make some adjustments?

[maiden lance]

What would eb a good primary to pair with it for steel path to kill lots at once?

[warm obsidian]

Archon Continuity stacks with Melee Exposure?

[lean tendon]

I mean I don't need to

I have like 449p

[violet silo]

shit wait why did that reply to u

I didn't touch your message

[lean tendon]

Xd

[violet silo]

was replying to the volt build

[violet silo]

why hide your plat number?
also, volt nuking build isn't gonna be steel path viable

[karmic badger]

Discharge is purely for the augment

Mostly

[violet silo]

and looks like you're lacking in energy economy anyways

[karmic badger]

If you're putting pillage replace discharge

[lean tendon]

I think the shield gating is overcooked

[violet silo]

so nuking is double problematic

[vagrant berry]

Somebody can help?

[warm obsidian]

Do I have to deal electric for Melee Influence?

[novel bear]

Left

[abstract axle]

yes unless you proc it with a bug

[novel bear]

Can companion precepts still proc it?

[karmic badger]

Yes

My hound nukes rooms with influence kek

[abstract axle]

only as a client

diriga can proc it as host, inexplicably

as can flying sequence

rather, voltage sequence

[solemn kiln]

Im struggling to find a good primary for steel path and up to higher levels, any suggestions?

[lean tendon]

Phantasma, Ignis Wraith, the GOAT Nataruk, Incarnon weapons, Kuva/Tenet Weapons

[solemn kiln]

Really?

Most of the builds I've tried for them aren't nearly as good as my ocour build

[lean tendon]

Ignis Wraith prob won't scale high but for star chart SP imo it's good enough

[lean tendon]

Well Secondary weapons are really OP in this game imo

amazing arcanes and mods + the weapons themselves are also great

Secondary > Primary

[solemn kiln]

Well that's lame :/

Sounds like primary weapons need some love

Or they need a incarnon/tenet version of amprex

[lean tendon]

to be fair, it's not like Primary weapons are weak

it's just that Secondary Weapons are too strong

[solemn kiln]

They feel weak compared to my little secondary weapon or even my melee

[lean tendon]

exactly my point

[solemn kiln]

If anything archguns feel like they should be primaries

[lean tendon]

primary is strong but secondary is stronger so when you go back to primary it doesnt feel the same

its the same for me when using Slam vs light attack spam

[solemn kiln]

Light attack spam feels like im beating people to death with a limp noodle

Makes me wish they didn't do the aoe nerf

[normal folio]

What is gauss good for? And what's the difference between him and volt

[night laurel]

volt is electricity snd gauss is kinetic energy

gauss makes going fast his entire personality while volt is John Allrounder

[fresh surge]

better question is what he is NOT good for?

gauss is one of the most versitale warframes in the game

[normal folio]

Fixing my relationship

[fresh surge]

great moblity tool can be a nuke or excellent weapon platform while being immortal in the process

[opal leaf]

Gauss Is a 3 in 1 buffet, a mixture of good CC, Nuking and Weapon Platforming. He make weapons faster to reload and faster to shoot

Volt is an Electric Buffer almost the same as Gauss but his 4, He has good speed and mostly he can apply any weapon electricity and Volt has Good CC too. Gauss can't apply electricity but he is crazy fast as he can Nuke and has Good CC

[lean tendon]

Both are great weapon platform imo
Volt is imo the best melee influence abuser/enabler
Gauss nuke is miles better than Volt nuke

[normal folio]

I see

So I should probably get Gauss then. I'm getting clapped with Volt on Saturn and Deimos

Or maybe I just need good weapons

[lean tendon]

both are versatile and it's just up to preference really

the only thing that doesn't scale well is nuke Volt

I guess you could argue it's easier to survive with Gauss as well because of the Aegis bug

[normal folio]

I don't think I can do volt nuke as mr3

[opal leaf]

That's true

[lean tendon]

but Volt speed is team-wide so you also get to support/troll allies

[night laurel]

volt 4 is kinda ass bc it doesnt do real electric procs; Shock trooper is also teamwide

[opal leaf]

You can, with enough Intensify and Range you'll be nuking everyone as Volts damage is powerful against below lvl 70 enemies (tried it)

[lean tendon]

I wouldn't anyways

[opal leaf]

True

[lean tendon]

it just doesn't scale well

maybe for a focus farm build

[normal folio]

Though I can nuke Eximus shield with his 4

[normal folio]

I should probably upgrade this then?

[normal folio]

I see

[normal folio]

Oh wait no slot

[lean tendon]

Shock Trooper + Roar subsume + shield + speed

Volt weapon platform enchanter build

[opal leaf]

Yeah, but it's ok for now I guess

You don't have that many mods

[lean tendon]

steel fiber and vitality out, equilibrium in

and maybe try to get Vigilante Vigor if its in the rotation in Cetus

[normal folio]

Is my weapons good enough though

[lean tendon]

should be fine

you'll get better weapons later

[normal folio]

I'm just gonna farm my other weapons for mr

[normal folio]

I'll keep vitality for now since I'm getting clapped left snd and right most of the time

[lean tendon]

imo Shields is more important

Equilibrium is really op

Fast Deflection + Vigilante Vigor + Redirection will be your main defense

[lean tendon]

Also upgrade your Dreamer's Bond to max

it will give more capacity

maybe something like this

[normal folio]

Alr donr

[lean tendon]

kind of hard to put two more mods because no potato

[normal folio]

So I'm gonna follow that?

[normal folio]

I have 6 orokin cells

[lean tendon]

it's my suggestion but you can also change it however you like

[lean tendon]

orokin reactor is what you need

if you will put potato on your Volt instead of waiting to get Prime version, you can maybe do something like this

shock trooper you will get later, you can put stretch instead while waiting

[normal folio]

Currently I did this

[lean tendon]

really depends if you want to stick to Volt base frame or save Orokin Reactor for a Prime variant

[normal folio]

What does adding potato to it do anyway

[lean tendon]

add 30 more capacity

[normal folio]

Would my Volt become a communist?

[normal folio]

Oh damn, yeah I don't need that for now. I can barely upgrade my mods atm because lack of Endoes

[lean tendon]

yeah you will eventually get some later

but right now I think you're fine

[normal folio]

Idk if I should continue focusing on story or just grind resources

[lean tendon]

just focus on the story

you will feel it if you're having a problem, mostly damage

[normal folio]

Alrighty then

[pulsar linden]

So, this is what I've done with the Nataruk. I started running Arbitration and chose this.

[fiery wolf]

What should i do to reach melee red crits?

With high damage

[green gyro]

praedos just doesn't have much crit potential

you'd need wrathful advance but ideally just use another weapon

magistar or ceramic dagger etc have extremely high cc

[night laurel]

is harrow survivability fast deflect + arcane aegis + condemn or was it shield capacity + condemn

[coral crest]

You have massive shield capacity, you have easy energy from headshots

Just give yourself shield and use condemn while energy gain on headshots is enabled

[night laurel]

the issue is spots my shields break immediately after condemning, so i wanna make sure i'm not missing anything

[lucid flint]

adaptation would help for that

[coral crest]

Huh

It gives so much shield per enemy hit

Are you sure you aren't running negative str or negative range

Because if you have negative range, then condemn will not save you

[lucid flint]

I was thinking the enemies he’s fighting are just like level 200-500 steel path enemies and they just did enough damage to take it down already

which is what adaptation would mitigate

[night laurel]

i'm not, pos range and the 3k gets eaten instantly

may just be a skill issue

[mental ivy]

anyone proud of their burston build and willing to share?

ig not 💔

[coral crest]

Ouch

[lucid flint]

I am not proud of my burston build

[night laurel]

i am not proud of my burston build either

[coral crest]

I am proud of not having a burston build

[lean tendon]

Braton chad more based than Burston nerds

[sonic folio]

What about burston chuds

[weak jasper]

They will not survive the winter.

[wild seal]

please help me how to build around this riven, thank you

[nocturne thicket]

Do moa companions do anything?

[weary yacht]

anyone have some Oberon Prime builds? thinking of swapping to him

[violet silo]

what about laetum

basically rhe same thing

[tardy lily]

Ocucor riven need sto have at least multishot and a negative so that the stats of others are more powerful

Keep rolling

[lean tendon]

Secondary weapon abusers 🤮

The only secondary that is based is the Grimoire

[tardy lily]

Meh

[violet silo]

sslander

[tardy lily]

I only use it for the mods I put on to get good passives like ability strength

[lean tendon]

I forgot about the mighty seer

Another GOAT weapon

[wild seal]

gotcha thanks

[static sphinx]

Is this good?

[umbral knoll]

what Exilus mod for Xoris?? Got good build, but Dispatch Overdrive looks meh to dmg.. Any better options?

[charred gale]

whirlwind lets u throw it further i guess

[umbral knoll]

@charred gale rate my build pls!

[charred gale]

that actually looks rly good for the mods u have

maybe replace pressure point since u already have killing blow

idk why i said shocking touch

[umbral knoll]

it's OK, haha

[eternal prism]

For ogris toxin multishot and base damage if im not mistake

For crit ogris same but not base damage -> cd

[acoustic bluff]

Crit Ogris

[eternal prism]

Secret tech

[proven veldt]

Rate my titania build

here's dex pixia

I gotta replace the heated charge and convulsion with prime variants and upgrade enervate to full later

[eternal prism]

why persistance😨

[quiet laurel]

and why dreamers bond

that aura gets useless the moment you have any other aura

[proven veldt]

Aura cause i forgot to change when i was experimenting

Persistance cause it kinda works, at least seems to. I thought of replacing it with something else but idk with what

And anything but shieldgating

[eternal prism]

fire rate pistols...

[eternal prism]

titania is almost like xaku, it's hard to die on her

[craggy niche]

Jade. Super high kpm, easy survivability, goof speed, good team support

[proven veldt]

Yeah, ive noticed. Still was dying somehow so thought the persistance might work.

Stopped dying as much so thought it did.

[eternal prism]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1359267439564685489/1441237521408200767/image.gif

[craggy niche]

Well she doesn't heal or do frost damage so the archon are expensive

And dreamers is a choice

[proven veldt]

She actually does heal cause i subsumed voracious metastasis on 2, also already replaced dreamers with pistol amp cause i don't have much else

[quiet laurel]

do you have CP on your account

[craggy niche]

You want xatas whisper on jade

[proven veldt]

I hope you mean corrosive projection

[craggy niche]

And blast on pistol

[proven veldt]

In case of corrosive projection i do have it.

[quiet laurel]

slot that

[craggy niche]

Also blind rage is kind of a wasted slot on her she doesn't really need tnat much strength, just putting unneeded stress on your energy economy and forcing equilibrium

[eternal prism]

brief respite better cuz for titatnia it more then enough she have misses

idk how die with that

dex have corr in build. or corr from archont mod

[craggy niche]

Also albeit clunky her 3 is more than enough to keep her alive in most content combined with her passive

[proven veldt]

I don't like shield gating, its hard to make it work for me, so im gonna do corrosive projection

[eternal prism]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1359267439564685489/1441237521408200767/image.gif

then use vazarin :/

[potent gull]

What build reccomend for vauban

[craggy niche]

Just get good wit using her 3, you get your duration up high enough its not terrible

[proven veldt]

I felt that her damage wasn't enough, should i slot it out?

[craggy niche]

Xatas with blast on her pistols

[proven veldt]

I gotta get xaku for that

[craggy niche]

And yeah just practice with her 3, its reallu more than enough to keep her alive well into the thousands. Shield gate is gonna be your only option for level cap tho

[opal leaf]

As I said, recommended build for Vauban is most range and Duration

100% efficiency so you can spam and you can leave ability strength as his skills is scaled on enemy levels (except 1 as it's scales in enemy health through the augment Tesla Bank

[eternal prism]

(vazarin)

[opal leaf]

Overextended and Stretch for range is enough

Augur Message and Continuity is good

Flow and Equilibrium for energy economy

Intensify for strength if you want

Tesla Bank Augment if it can fit for the final slot

Aura is Corrosive Projection

There, more detailed

[proven veldt]

Is this better? idk what to put in the last slot but ill guess Cat. shields

[quiet laurel]

why would you subsume over 2

subsume over 3 👍

2 has nice buffs and helps with general survivability

[proven veldt]

3 is more useful, 2 needs an enemy on top of other problems

[eternal prism]

nah
2 even give u damage

3 not work good

[opal leaf]

I just hope the build helped the tenno who needed Vauban build...

[quiet laurel]

3 legit needs an enemy too

[craggy niche]

Oh yeah I meant her 2 lol

[charred gale]

u just fly up to an enemy every 2 mins

[proven veldt]

Okay got it

[quiet laurel]

and one of her 2 buffs give iirc 50% evasion

[craggy niche]

Augur message

[eternal prism]

2nd skill work good cuz spawn another butterflys

= damage

[quiet laurel]

and each active buff from her 2 spawns an additional razorfly which is nice cc

[charred gale]

defelcts 50% dmg too

[eternal prism]

and has a huge duration

[charred gale]

wait nvm

thats the other one

[craggy niche]

No its 2

[proven veldt]

What can i replace xata's whisper while i don't have it? Im gonna go farm xaku soon

[eternal prism]

There is no reason to replace it because you become almost immortal

[craggy niche]

The dust ability

[eternal prism]

roar

[charred gale]

probably roar works fine

[acoustic bluff]

Subsume over 3

Pls

[proven veldt]

Dammit i don't have roar

[craggy niche]

Nourish is fine too

[eternal prism]

no pls

[acoustic bluff]

@proven veldt you can use nourish

[proven veldt]

don't have that too

[opal leaf]

Then roar

[eternal prism]

:/

[acoustic bluff]

Jus go without then atp

[proven veldt]

🥀

[acoustic bluff]

💔

[charred gale]

js subsumeless then😭

[opal leaf]

Yeah

[eternal prism]

then nothing
just use augment for 3

[charred gale]

its fine shes strong as is

[acoustic bluff]

Subsumeless wait for xatas

[charred gale]

yea

[craggy niche]

Omamori for 3 isnt a bad slot

[acoustic bluff]

trust me you don’t need that

[charred gale]

she rly doesnt need more😭

corpsemaxxing

[acoustic bluff]

She barely gets hit anyway

[eternal prism]

tripple dip blast

[opal leaf]

Wisp has been immortal fr fr hahahah

Omamori is like an "add on"

you don't need it as it's not that important

[craggy niche]

Yeah but better than nothing

Ophie eyes if you wanna get weird

[opal leaf]

Ehhhhh might utilize Wisp 3 than waste it on Omamori imo

[acoustic bluff]

@proven veldt thermal sunder thermal transfer for fun

[opal leaf]

That's just me

[craggy niche]

Breach surge is fine but range is kind of a wasted slot on titania

[acoustic bluff]

Breach surge hell

[quiet laurel]

omamori, cat shields, 2x shield recharge, brief respite, guardian on sentinel, vazarin, arcane aegis, arcane barrier tech

[charred gale]

only then is the game playable

[eternal prism]

in 1 build

[acoustic bluff]

You’re forgetting adaptation tri umbral

[charred gale]

yeah kinda the point

[acoustic bluff]

Dagger daddy kullervo

[eternal prism]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1202303293146013738/1241886904744542299/attachment.gif

[charred gale]

FREE SKIPS

[acoustic bluff]

Do you level cap

[eternal prism]

🍴

[craggy niche]

Do adaptation and augur message or augur message and streamline for laziness

[quiet laurel]

do I spot

no way

NO PSF OWNED???????

[eternal prism]

This is only possible with cheats💀

[charred gale]

yeah smh all these cheaters

[acoustic bluff]

True

[eternal prism]

finally

[quiet laurel]

I have an exam tomorrow worth 10% of my whole apprenticeship grade and I am here rotting my brain in PWF, life is good

[proven veldt]

I don't see why not replace message with cat shields since my invul duration on normal shields is lower than the duration i get from cat shields

so far i made this monstrocity

[craggy niche]

Because its not needed unless you trying to level cap and you literally said above you aren't trying to shield gate lol

[quiet laurel]

but it would be your best option

[proven veldt]

Well i wanna levelcap some day so i guess its better to prepare and learn to shieldgate

[quiet laurel]

ez survivability to any damage values

[quiet laurel]

its very chill on titania

[eternal prism]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1359267439564685489/1441237521408200767/image.gif

[quiet laurel]

you cant even say the first 3 letters of titania 😔

[proven veldt]

i heard you

[quiet laurel]

if you post this one more time I will give you a french kiss

[craggy niche]

Looks chill as hell

[eternal prism]

nidri vazarin

[eternal prism]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cat-meme-silly-cat-silly-weep-gif-16415733508326637886

[craggy niche]

I personally dont use catalyzing shields cuz leaning on bug exploits is mehhh. The whole loop behind cat shields is bugged since its not supposed to give you full gate off of nothing

[proven veldt]

Wait they're bugged?

Also any archon shards suggestions?

[craggy niche]

Whatever you want, cast speed is good for her 2

[eternal prism]

It hasn't been fixed for a ton of time

[craggy niche]

Couple of violet equil shards if you really want to lean into energy economy

I like being chill on tittyainia

[solid lark]

anyone have coda hema electric viral?

[proven veldt]

You don't need equilibrium if you have 160% efficiency and your flight only drains 1,25 per second

Also arcane energise maxed, its pretty good

[eternal prism]

"160% efficiency"😨

[eternal prism]

u know only duration matter for drain energy

[proven veldt]

No it doesn't

well, not only it matters

[old marsh]

both do

[eternal prism]

still 5 per sec btw

[quiet laurel]

efficiency also affects it

[proven veldt]

How?

mine works fine

[eternal prism]

maybe cuz u have duration?

[old marsh]

u want both dur and efficiency for channeled abilities

[granite ginkgo]

overextended reduce dur

[proven veldt]

my duration is 150%

🥀

[eternal prism]

only duration affect

[craggy niche]

No it doesnt

[eternal prism]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cat-meme-silly-cat-silly-weep-gif-16415733508326637886

[proven veldt]

Guess i cheated my 1,33 energy per second then idk 😔

[craggy niche]

Both matter for channeled lol

[proven veldt]

I know but the guy keeps telling me it doesn't

[old marsh]

i dont think he can read

[eternal prism]

Even if it worked the way you think, you'd still be wrong about mods

[brittle sleet]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Ability_Efficiency very important chart at the top of this page

[clear gale]

Can anybody help me with my build?

[eternal prism]

u use 60/60 corrupted mod which gives you just 0

What didn't you notice when I showed it?

or should i need to tell u directly

[proven veldt]

Atp you're trolling

[eternal prism]

I told you what was wrong btw

[opal leaf]

What kind?

[brittle sleet]

Fleeting Expertise is an even mod for channeled abilities, this is true. Not sure how much that means for the overall discussion but it is true

[eternal prism]

Which option do you think is better? I only changed one mod.

[clear gale]

My acceltra. x)

[opal leaf]

Aight I have acceltra builds

What do you need?

[eternal prism]

mod doesn't give anything other than efficiency for casting skills.

it does not change the energy efficiency for channeled

cus 60dur = 60 efficiency

[craggy niche]

It doesn't he just realized he is wrong earlier and started flailing lol

[proven veldt]

Well actually it affects channeled abilities more than duration. For some reason. The difference isn't big but its considerable.

[eternal prism]

I hinted to him about it, but apparently he didn't figure it out right away

[clear gale]

So, how can I show you my build? I have an idea for it but I'm not sure if it's good enough for later..

[proven veldt]

replaced my fleeting expertise with streamline

now its 130% efficiency and 210% duration

[opal leaf]

You really can't screen shot?

[proven veldt]

before it was 150% duration and 160% efficiency

[brittle sleet]

In that it will affect the initial cost sure, but it won't affect sustained drain

[proven veldt]

🥀

try it yourself

i can't prove you that it affects it with screenshot

[brittle sleet]

If you're replacing mods it'll affect it for sure but efficiency and duration have a 1:1 effectiveness on channel drain

[opal leaf]

Wait what was the problem?

[proven veldt]

Ok i noticed something funny

[brittle sleet]

A statement that efficiency affects channels more than duration does

Which it does but not in a way people care about usually

[proven veldt]

when you put a duration mod in the fleeting expertise does affect the cost of channeled abilities as a whole

but when you don't have a duration mod then it doesn't actually affect it

and the resulting effect is bigger than the one that duration mod provides alone

[opal leaf]

Ah

[proven veldt]

That might just be a calculation bug

[late hemlock]

Frankly so many ways to maintain energy nowadays fleeting expertise is super niche as a mod

[opal leaf]

I might as well sold it into plat.... If it'll let me

[brittle sleet]

Nah keep it for negative duration Baruuk and Nezha

[solid lark]

doesn necrophagic vigor resets on reload or stackking

[versed harbor]

seismic bond killed fleeting expertise efficiency imo

[eternal prism]

It's strange that people only understood what I was writing about when two people started writing about it :/

[brittle sleet]

The trick of communication is always figuring out the magic words to make what's being meant understood

This goes all ways

[eternal prism]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/234792425460072448/1212575251959914546/wf_trash.gif

[slate fiber]

I wrote a big overframe description for the first time way too big to redo but the title couldnt be edited and save didnt save it for going to desktop site.........

It was too much to spontaneously redescribe in the same contexts.

Way to get it back?

All bout how the weapon acts and why its the way it is ect

[brittle sleet]

Not unless your device somehow cached it in which case spamming the back button would be the move

[proven veldt]

i feel like a titania main that discovered adderal

[slate fiber]

Nope

[brittle sleet]

So, a Titania main

[clear gale]

That’s my current build. I would love to replace hunter munitions with thermite rounds (idk if there is better than that mode as a primed version or something) it with galvanized aptitude.

I would also love to replace vigilante supplies by Primed mutant minutions.

Finally, I was thinking to replace bol acceleration with primed shred.

I also don’t know whats better between serration and amalgam serration here.

@opal leaf

[opal leaf]

Viral Slash....

Huh....

[brittle sleet]

Not gonna speak on too many of the mod choices for lack of familiarity, not even sure what gun this is, but as far as Amalgam Serration vs not, the DPS is marginal and easily foregone, which is why people often use Amalgam Serration. But if you don't notice the sprint speed boost much, and don't care about it, then use regular Serration. It's that simple

[clear gale]

Acceltra and acceltra prime. x)

[opal leaf]

Want speed? Amalgam Serration

No speed? JUST Serration

[slate fiber]

I think it wasn't mere coincidence. (Nah i should have realised changing to desktop site would overwrite the cache)

I think the spontaneous materiality in which my description is essentiated cannot be a duplicated state, and too much of my engagement is being lost to the internal depth of absolute world-external inboxing when already locked into an inescapable living position that never presented normal development out of school or socius and is more materially degraded... why have anything retain as if the moment the active is transferred to the real and the consciousness of people in this happy go lucky automata that sheers select indivisible to agency people between it with no linear consistency but pure authority is all..

idk. May re write the built, may keep my secrets i havent seen anyone else with for the weapon to myself hehe, got to sleep.

[fossil blade]

I did the theoretical damage calcs on a build that does 717,601,585 dps (but I don't entirely believe it)

If someone could test it out for me (before I commit to getting the arcanes & archon shards and letting myself down since I haven't even hit the place where I can use this build) that'd be great.

[late hemlock]

Oddly specific number lol

[old marsh]

it has numbers 6 and 7

[maiden lance]

If I want to build a Zaw for use in Steel Path with pretty much any Warframe should it be focused on criticals or status effects?

I would like it to be more than just a primer weapon as sometimes I find my primary not killing "fast" enough for my liking and I wind up getting trapped by a big group of enemies.

[fossil blade]

Mafs.

[mighty flare]

You’d build for crits to make it usable on everyone without any specific setup if you were using exodia contagion

[opal leaf]

What's the reason for Zaw

[opal leaf]

Oh yeah you can do Viral Electric, replace Hunter Munitions into Storm bringer and you're good

Well I use High Voltage so.... Ueah

[maiden lance]

I just think they're neat 😁
Plus as much fun as it is to use other melee weapons there's something special about using something you put together yourself.

[opal leaf]

Or... electric Slash... I haven't tried it on Acceltra yet

Only Nataruk

[maiden lance]

Kitguns have fallen behind to point of irrelevance even with arcanes haven't they 😢

[fossil blade]

acceltra?

[opal leaf]

Yee it's acceltra

[clear gale]

Noted.

[fossil blade]

This is what I'm building.

[clear gale]

Yes!

[fossil blade]

@clear gale

[eternal prism]

viral😨

[fossil blade]

It's because I can double dip with breach surge if I max out viral stacks. It's for a wisp nuke

[opal leaf]

Pure viral, nice

Well most of us have no Hammer shot sooo eh it's good I guess

If it works, don't fix it

[fossil blade]

Well the non hammer shot is still great because

1503 (base) + max merciless of +360% x 6.6 (crit) x 4.25 (viral) = 193192

[opal leaf]

A8ght gtg play more geometry dash

[eternal prism]

serration and aptitude😨

aptitude😨

[opal leaf]

Why you so worried?

[eternal prism]

aptitude bad here

[opal leaf]

Oh wait..... Aptitude ON Acceltra hahahahah

[fossil blade]

Which is why hammershot

[eternal prism]

😨

just use serration

[opal leaf]

Oh it's Additive????? So Aptitude doesn't work then... Good thing I have Acceltra with no aptitude

[opal leaf]

Serration and more multi shot hahahahahahaha

[clear gale]

I got confused now. 😂😂

[maiden lance]

I would also want the Zaw to have high speed, correct?

[fossil blade]

This is my alt build.

[opal leaf]

Step can explain it better then I do...

[eternal prism]

not even aadditive
per status only affects 74% and not 100%

[clear gale]

The thing is, I don't understand why Galvinzed aptitude doesn't work on acceltra. x)

[opal leaf]

Ohhhhhhhhhhh

[opal leaf]

@clear gale

[undone dust]

rocket go boom, aoe no work for galv apt

[eternal prism]

This also works for toxocysts btw

[undone dust]

[eternal prism]

serration better for tox

[opal leaf]

That's the fastest explanation to it

[clear gale]

Oh, I see.

Alright, so what changes should I make to my build after all?

[opal leaf]

Do my build if you wanna try it's the one that gave me advantage to melt Acolytes with ease

[mighty flare]

Yes

[opal leaf]

My build is not perfect but it's there

[maiden lance]

Thanks, needed that to figure out which link to use.

[opal leaf]

Aight I will to play geometry dash now, cya ltr tennos

[clear gale]

Have fun!!

[fossil blade]

162835.86 max damage.

Ability Strength = Base 323% + 45% (Red Tau Forged Shards) + 40% (Madurai Void Sling) + 30% (Arcane Crepuscular) + 60% (Molt @ Max) = 498% Peak.

Breach Surge multiplier = 2 x 4.98 = 9.96

Breach surge spark damage = shot x 9.96 BS x 3 Headshot x 1.3 Topaz Shards x 4.25 viral x 4.5 final crit -- 742.8915 x multiplier

162835.86* 742.8915 = 121M DP Spark

121M DP Spark *8 shots/s fire rate = 968M DPS

[mighty flare]

usual crit & speed part is Vargeet II Jai

[maiden lance]

Yup the builder tool said to use that with peye handle and plague kripath blade to make a rapier with base 37% crit once its gilded

[clear gale]

I remove primed cryo Etc..?

[eternal prism]

idk why u need viral in not status gun
only if u have armor strip

besides, viral is not that difficult to get

I still wouldn't recommend using this weapon... without a platform it's just awful

[clear gale]

I'm using it with gauss though.

Gauss prime, acceltra prime Etc.

[eternal prism]

It's still not worth it... on the other hand, using slash on a crit will give you an extra 100k dps, provided you shoot in the head and you have a viral from somewhere

but it's definitely not worth it

[clear gale]

Alright, so slash is hunter minutions if I'm not mistaken. Viral is toxin?

[eternal prism]

viral = toxin + cold

or nourish... or comp...

[brittle sleet]

I challenge you to fit Serration on your Dual Toxocyst build (⁠ ͡⁠°⁠ ͜⁠ʖ⁠ ͡⁠°⁠)

[eternal prism]

i did

[brittle sleet]

Pics or it didn't happen

[clear gale]

I see. So, on acceltra, I don't need viral or slash. Is that what you're trying to tell me?

[late hemlock]

I love my primary dual toxocyst

[brittle sleet]

||I'm being facetious about Hornet Strike being the pistol mod||

[eternal prism]

https://tenor.com/view/taiho-shichau-zo-teehee-anime-youre-under-arrest-ova-gif-21342147

i need riven for swap enervate...

or combo stick for outburst...

[eternal prism]

yes

[clear gale]

Understood.

[eternal prism]

But if you suddenly have both roar and viral from somewhere other than weapons... then slash mod will definitely make a bigger difference

maybe around extra 300-400k dps

but since this will most likely never happen, it's useless

[clear gale]

Oh, I see.

Like if I get roar on my gauss, it might work?

[eternal prism]

No, because you need a viral for slash.

[fossil blade]

Nourish 🙏 or a secondary primer

[eternal prism]

but roar will definitely give you an extra 0.5-0.8x damage if you don't kill all the other stats

[eternal prism]

who use sec primer for acceltra

[fossil blade]

I mean you can if you sweaty

[eternal prism]

and who use primer in 2026😨

mobs die without this

[fossil blade]

I personally just will be using nourish

And going around with my 120M damage per spark breachsurge

[eternal prism]

In any case, roar is better for status weapons... but it's never a bad idea to just have a bane

It's easier to just not use the acceltra😨

[clear gale]

Oh, I see. Sorry man, I just don't know yet how all that works and I'm trying to understand more. 😊

[eternal prism]

slash ignore armor
viral give 300% more damage

3xslash proc

[clear gale]

Alright, so basically, unless I get a viral and roar somewhere else than on my weapon, it's not worth it on acceltra.

[eternal prism]

roar give double dip for status
for example roar 70% for status = 1.7*1.7 damage

[solemn kiln]

i just played a round as koumei..... she can get broken in a long enough match i just dont know how to build her lol

[eternal prism]

she can kill lvl cap without decree only by skills

[solemn kiln]

Why am I not surprised

With decrees she can rule the world xD

[lilac rivet]

Which mods would be best for me to use on Uriel? I have 25 hours of gameplay.

[solemn kiln]

You need the fire archon mod

[lilac rivet]

Hmmm

Ok

[sonic folio]

https://tenor.com/view/dungeon-soup-my-blade-githyanki-quality-so-you-know-it's-good-gif-12192236967424097653

[severe bough]

What mods do u have available

[solemn kiln]

Oh my bad you "NEED" it

[solemn kiln]

I feel like koumei is one of the few frames who can run every archon mod

[eternal prism]

she not need mod for heat

heat not do big damage

[solemn kiln]

But the others would be good?

[eternal prism]

but electricity with pulse do

can try this caster build

I was too lazy to come up with anything, actually. So you can optimize it for yourself.

[solemn kiln]

Lol

this is what i had used

[leaden owl]

Hollow Point worth the mod slot if at 100%+ crit?

[earnest saddle]

nope

any other crit damage mod is better

[leaden owl]

noted, ty

[charred gale]

Hollow point is complete trash

[leaden owl]

I figured, I don't really use it at all. Good to know tho

[fresh surge]

cause there is no reason to

there is only 1 weapon where it's usable imo

and that weapon is glory if you build alt-fire

[leaden owl]

I saw some insta reel talking about a build with it and I thought it was weird, but didn't say anything cause I wasn't sure

[deep grotto]

Use the warframe mods tab because those are the only relevant ones

The one that looks like Exal’s head

[lilac rivet]

Ok

[solemn kiln]

koumei might be my new favorite frame

[deep grotto]

gambling 👍

[solemn kiln]

if you get the right decrees you can go into any endless mission and sit there for hours and be just fine

[brittle sleet]

The queen of endurance

[ruby peak]

Chat, viral elec Xoris build with kullervo OR pure elec xoris kullervo

[late hemlock]

Id stick with full electric and put galv elementalist and blood rush over the 2 60/60s

[ruby peak]

?

[fresh surge]

pure elec i use this

[late hemlock]

Ig you can go with normal elementalist as its more damage and guarantee proc I suppose

[ruby peak]

ye, xoris guarantee procs elec so I don't need more status

[late hemlock]

You dont want status but you want status damage

Elementalist is multiplicative to all your other damage

[ruby peak]

yea I meant status chance

[fresh surge]

yup you don't need status chance for this exact reason

[pallid quiver]

its guaranteed proc?

[late hemlock]

One proc

[ruby peak]

guaranteed elec proc

[late hemlock]

More status chance can lead to an extra proc

So its still good to have

[pallid quiver]

oh damn

[ruby peak]

one proc is enough to chain influence imo

[late hemlock]

Id rather get the huge status chance bump and lose out on the 10% from normal elementalist but you do you

Absolutely include one of those mods though

[ruby peak]

I'll make a budget version oof this as im missing both AOS amd PPP.

[fresh surge]

yea adjust to what you have

[late hemlock]

As for blood rush it works off reflex so its a good chunk of extra crit chance

[versed harbor]

u also get that heavy attack wind from regular

[ruby peak]

I dont need more crit chance, i have kullervo

[fresh surge]

blood rush on glaive?

[late hemlock]

Already in from killing blow, not super useful

[versed harbor]

means you can drop killing blow

or amalgam organ shatter

[fresh surge]

you would need to use discipline's merit and use free heavy attacks

[late hemlock]

Killing blow is great so I wouldn't drop it, id rather have 120% extra status personally

But again just use any of the elementalist mods

[ruby peak]

So if @fresh surge build is better than my pure elec build then I just wasted 70 plat on voltaic strike

[late hemlock]

Then id use primed pressure point

[ruby peak]

ill just sell voltaic and buy ppp

[versed harbor]

ye tbf voltaic is rly underwhelming

[ruby peak]

yea it was NOT worth it

[late hemlock]

You want more electricity mods , it dips into the dot calculation

[fresh surge]

60/60 mods are underwhelming on melee in general

bc weeping exists

[versed harbor]

60% vs 440% goes hard

[fresh surge]

fair battle

[ruby peak]

ill just sell it, not the end of the world since i got this voltaic for free since some guy in my clan decided to give one to me

[fresh surge]

don't sell it

[earnest saddle]

90 mods make status effects do more damage* at the cost of not occurring as often, which isn't a problem on xoris since it has guaranteed damage on the detonation

*does not apply to blast and gas procs, only boosted by elementalist

[ruby peak]

y

[ruby peak]

selling it for PLAT so I can buy ppp

[solemn kiln]

i feel like people using cata on koumei are doing it the lazy way x.x

[late hemlock]

If it works it works lol

The point of optimizing is to make stuff as lazy as possible

[solemn kiln]

dont you have to ability spam for cata to work?

[late hemlock]

You use it when your shields are down

[solemn kiln]

this is what im using

[violet silo]

what the HELL

[eternal prism]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/234792425460072448/1212575251959914546/wf_trash.gif

[solemn kiln]

XD

[violet silo]

WHAT ARE WE DOING

[solemn kiln]

yes i realize now i dont need so much energy i thought id be spamming her abilities more

[eternal prism]

exit game

[violet silo]

THIS ISNT ABOUT ENERGY 😭

[solemn kiln]

all the armor

[violet silo]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/741945274901200897/1027296118045941831/caption.gif

[violet silo]

5 SLOTS AND AN ARCANE

HALF OF YOUR BUILD IS SURVIVABILITY

[pallid quiver]

bro is scared of dying

[solemn kiln]

yus

and if i cant die i can just keep rolling decrees for all the damages

[green gyro]

you forgot Tanker/guardian

[slender matrix]

Hey, can someone share a survival-focused Saryn build for the Steel Path? I feel like mine is kind of 'paper'. Thanks!

[green gyro]

and gloom

[violet silo]

https://overframe.gg/build/759309/koumei/threads-of-fate-koumei-general-use-and-steel-path-endurance/
I dont even play koumei... pleasse just seek help ninjase

[solemn kiln]

tanker guardian? whats those

[green gyro]

but yes passive gate is perfectly fine on koumei

[green gyro]

arcanes, completely useless but so is every other mod on that build

[eternal prism]

koumei t34

[solemn kiln]

see ive ran passive gate builds and died to toxin from infested so i have 0 faith in them

[violet silo]

you arent blind or anything, right

cuz theres a rolling guard right there

[green gyro]

you can bring vazarin or just kill faster

[violet silo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1153013372820934716/1482519987146064106/meme.gif

[green gyro]

infested can basically never onetap you

only time it's genuinely an issue is disruption tox weapons on kappa

[solemn kiln]

vazarin?

[green gyro]

but then you just vaz dash for 30 seconds

[green gyro]

protective sling

[violet silo]

im leaving

[solemn kiln]

ah yes the operator

[night laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/qa-developer-software-development-test-gif-27432169

genuinely u rn

[solemn kiln]

XD

[eternal prism]

u forgot about vazarin

and companion

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1359267439564685489/1441237521408200767/image.gif

[solemn kiln]

im running madurai and diriga

[eternal prism]

mega mistake

[fresh surge]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-login-wf-login-login-warframe-login-wf-login-gif-11008003055853778840

[solemn kiln]

im feeling some hate xD

[novel bear]

Why do you have adaptation and persistence?

Also take off most of those armor mods and subsume spellbind or well of life or something

This build doesn’t even have good survivability

[vocal sphinx]

okay, listen.
this is so much better than effiency zephyr.

[eternal prism]

emmmm it god build for this

[vocal sphinx]

i still have knightmares of eff zephyr

[vocal sphinx]

u could try running wyrm
worse diriga priming wise? prolly yeah, but negate is pretty useful

[proven veldt]

Since others can't really explain it properly im gonna try. People were very flabbergasted cause your defence build might seem good on paper but given the ways of defence that we know its not only over the top but also barely works. Depending on the warframe there are different strategies of how you should approach defense. People usually assume that you know what they know and are very surprised when a new player didn't look up builds on overframe and instead tried to make one themselves and resulted in something like this.

I suggest you try overframe, its a good site for looking up good builds for your equipment. They might be outdated and might work not as good as the true meta, but they would give you some amount of base understanding. They're perfect for the normal starchart too, since you don't really see OP 200 lvl SP enemies on there.

[solemn kiln]

it is amusing to see the toxic side of the community tho and thanks for the tips :>

[vocal sphinx]

tbh, u havent seen the toxic side
comparing pure confusion to h8 / toxicity is interesting tho

[solemn kiln]

didnt say it was all h8

[vocal sphinx]

im gonna be real, builds like these r pretty rare 2 see here
most ppl use overframe and that's it 🤷‍♂️

[vocal sphinx]

we all start from somewhere tho

[sly cape]

Guys quick question, is the "Heavy Caliber" mod any good?

[novel bear]

Not typically

There’s usually better options

[proven veldt]

I wouldn't call them toxic, more like underprepared when it comes to dealing with newbies. They sit here long and expect somewhat good builds, but your case as a self taught builder truly puzzled them. Since you are clearly trying to think of your builds i think that you will get the hang of the system quite quickly. I would start with choosing the way you wanna survive, instead of trying to go on all of them.

Also since nobody bothered to explain, your armor is actually converted to a percentile value, that removes said percent from damage you get on your health. Yes armor is health only.

[solemn kiln]

i know about the health only thing

i was planning to put in rage and quickthinking

[novel bear]

The problem is that damage reduction and persistence don’t interact at all

If one is active the other isn’t

[vocal sphinx]

per chance u'd like shield gating as a way 2 survive the only problem i have w/ it: i never used it properly (zephyr plr after all)

[solemn kiln]

that i didnt know and is kinda stupid

[brittle sleet]

I mean it makes sense

[novel bear]

Not stupid at all, if they did persistence would be broken

[proven veldt]

Since you're running komei, i would first of all suggest a different frame, since this frame from what i know is likely the one you would need to mod for shield gate, which might not be realistic on your stage of the game.

[pallid quiver]

the thing is u dont typically need so much investment towards not dying on a frame with other tools to keep themself alive already, so its better to invest in stats that make the frame function at a higher level with the rest of its kit

[solemn kiln]

should i look up a list of broken things in warframe

[novel bear]

Catalyzing shields is broken

[quiet laurel]

gl reading that list till you are retired

[brittle sleet]

One says "you can't take more than 500 damage per second" the other says "incoming damage is reduced by this number"

It just would need to be clearer about the difference between incoming damage and taken damage

[sly cape]

So basically Heavy Calibur is not that useful right, just on some weapons?

[novel bear]

Yes

[brittle sleet]

Certain niche weapons yes

[sly cape]

Highly noted thanks

[brittle sleet]

Turning the Kuva Ogris into a napalm shotgun 👍

[pallid quiver]

how much better is primed fury than berserker fury btw?

[brittle sleet]

You can't aim but with giant napalm explosions you don't need to

[solemn kiln]

it doesnt specify which order they would activate tho so it just turns into a guess

[brittle sleet]

They're sidegrades of each other, objectively speaking

Berserker gives more speed but requires you keep it active by focusing on your melee

[novel bear]

In almost every scenario berserker fury is better

Primed is better if you can’t build stacks, but there’s not really a case where you can’t build stacks with a light attack melee

[compact cypress]

whats better between the strun vs boar incarnon?

[brittle sleet]

If you're concerned with your melee's DPS enough for it to mean anything, Berserker is the move, if your melee is a backup weapon meant to clear specific targets for some reason, or is a primer like the Vastilok, then Primed

[solemn kiln]

the real issue is the last time i really played is back before the change to the current star chart so all my info is very outdated, like cata didnt exist back then and i think arcanes had just come out?

[pallid quiver]

ah cool

im relatively new so i only know the current build trends

[solemn kiln]

im still recovering from banshee being useless now and mag's range being a fraction of what it used to be x.x

[eternal prism]

vastilok secret level cap build

[brittle sleet]

Wouldn't call Banshee useless, but she is awkward to play in current meta since it's hard to cover her energy needs and survivability needs at the same time

[eternal prism]

how banshi can be useless :/

[solemn kiln]

meanwhile she used to be able to wipe maps

[eternal prism]

strongest 2nd skill armor strip and crowd control skill

[brittle sleet]

Yeah she's more of a potent weapons platform now

[eternal prism]

and for example roar over 4

[solemn kiln]

quake used to be all you needed

[eternal prism]

☠️

[quiet laurel]

banshee hate lowkey just "her weakpoints arent counted towards acuity" and "she has no survivability"

and those 2 points are legit irrelevant

and her 4 is ez subsume

[eternal prism]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1359267439564685489/1441237521408200767/image.gif

I haven't tested it, but it looks playable

[solemn kiln]

wtf they changed resonating quake? i could have sworn it used to still be channeled

[eternal prism]

there is an augment for it

[solemn kiln]

that is the name of the augment

you used to be able to channel with the augment you cant any more

[proven veldt]

A ton of things changed, the arcanes are old to me and i joined before the new war dropped

[brittle sleet]

Quake is channeled by default now and you just don't channel anymore with the aug

[solemn kiln]

operators werent even a thing back then xD i came back to an update right after operators came out, hated the mission and stopped playing again

[solemn kiln]

you used to be able to channel with the augment which was why it was so good

[proven veldt]

Now they're much better and more powerful, to the point that you can kill with their weapons on SP and they're used for self reviving

[eternal prism]

(u can kill level cap ez with operator)

[solemn kiln]

id share my operator mods if i wanted to get laughed at more xD

[eternal prism]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/234792425460072448/1212575251959914546/wf_trash.gif

[proven veldt]

I don't think we got any mods for operator

[solemn kiln]

the antique thing?

[undone dust]

we do now

well for amps at least, not our actual op's

[proven veldt]

i mean yeah but different

[undone dust]

actually some of them affect our operators anyway so eh

[proven veldt]

You got a lot of things to find out, so for now i suggest you try sticking to the overframe for build info. Sadly this place might not be able to help you fast. I hope you will like the new quests and content, cause things like whispers in the walls, angels and the hex really were peak cinema in my honest opinion. Also some quests give you warframes and other equipment that isn't half bad, some of it even meta.

[restive swan]

The survivability point is valid because aside from shield gating spam (which is cringe) all she really has is silence which is good but like sonar, a bit jank and not great to rely on alone. Also calling an ability an "ez subsume" is kinda just admitting it's a trash ability in most cases, and in Banshee's case it's not actually helpful cause you know what her subsume ability is?

Silence

I guess she does kinda have a health tanking build now so she isn't AS squishy, but it's kind of niche I think

[quiet laurel]

since when is shield gating cringe

its the best survivability option for most frames

[restive swan]

I like it on Nidus and Kullervo especially

[quiet laurel]

?

[restive swan]

Best users of shield gating

[quiet laurel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1150797852029767781/1480917958984466596/meme.gif

type shi

[restive swan]

But jokes aside, it's not even THE best now, since it doesn't offer status immunity like OG, or straight up death negation like Persistence. It's fine on some frames but I just find having to spam it all the time lame compared to straight up face tanking

On someone like Banshee, it's a borderline crutch unless you go Persistence on her, which is weird but doable

[abstract axle]

until they fix persistence client bug, gating is far less risky on the lower hp frames

[quiet laurel]

persistence needs more than shield gating in the sense of modding

[restive swan]

That as well

[quiet laurel]

so shield gating is still the most modding efficient

[restive swan]

I'll give you that point. Technically you don't need mods at all, just a arcane and maybe a couple shards

[quiet laurel]

and the only threat is toxin which can be avoided unless you either get grabbed by a toxin infested eximus or get killed by toxin weapons disruption modifier

all other toxin sources have visual indicators

[ebon apex]

Or, warframe specific, Valkyr and Arcane Persistence is basically "health gating"

[restive swan]

But I don't think the mere existence of shield gating is a good excuse for Banshee being in the state she is in, ESPECIALLY when I could just subsume silence onto a frame that shield gates much more effectively like Hildryn or Gauss

And Hildryn actually gets immunity to toxin from her over shields which is a nice bonus

[abstract axle]

(not so) hot take, valkyr shouldn't bother with persistence, as she can't really die regardless

[restive swan]

Yeah she doesn't really need it, but it's funny to have it

[novel bear]

Removes her shields so she can use rage

[ebon apex]

So, I just farmed some Stela thanks to the now-expired Relentless Tide in Deep. Any suggestions for the most efficient ways to kill the Murmur without touching the Boss?

[restive swan]

Well the murmur take bonus damage from radiation and lab missions drop lots of radiation mods, but often I find electricity (especially paired with viral) to be more effective

[quiet laurel]

sevagoth i found to be quite efficient

[ebon apex]

Yes, but Radiation causes some Murmur to attack the Boss from their confusion. I'm looking for ways to keep the Boss pristine. An endless farm would be optimal

[restive swan]

Then a endless mission on steel path seems like the solution

[ebon apex]

I've found one YouTube where someone used Limbo to shove the Boss into a rift so it doesn't take any damage. I might have to try that

[restive swan]

Or that

Typical Limbo shenanigans

[solemn kiln]

finally i finished my ocucor build

[novel bear]

You should add some fire rate
If you have lethal torrent, I would put it over magnetic might

[solemn kiln]

tried that it lowers the dps

[novel bear]

According to what?

[solemn kiln]

https://warframe-damage.com/

huh or not i thought i had tried that combo

[green gyro]

you still want lethal unless youre outsourcing fr

[novel bear]

Even with reinforced bond, lethal torrent is still better

Maybe furax and velocity would push it over to magnetic might

[fierce lark]

reminder that multishot double dips status dmg on beams

[craggy niche]

Is that good?

[novel bear]

Very

[earnest saddle]

for anything that isn't status resistant or immune yes

[craggy niche]

Is the glaxion a chain beam?

I just got glaxion riven

[novel bear]

The tenet version is

But I think its dispo is pretty bad

[craggy niche]

Can a riven be slotted on to the tenet version?

[novel bear]

Yes

[craggy niche]

Awe sadge

[novel bear]

.65 dispo, that’s awful

[abstract axle]

you'll need a god roll to slot

[novel bear]

Not worth the kuva

[fierce lark]

if it's an adversary weapon at all there's a decent chance it has bad disp, and if not the weapon itself is probably bad

[novel bear]

Coda caustacyst has a somewhat usable dispo, and is a pretty good heavy spam weapon

Coda hema is also not awful

[craggy niche]

I have a dual tox riven that I probably should re roll

Isn't there a coda version of that?

[novel bear]

No

Torxica

[craggy niche]

Oh no they're incarnon

Is the one at the bench the one I need or is there a better version

[novel bear]

Toxocyst has a great dispo, and is a very good weapon even without a riven

[novel bear]

Just the one

[craggy niche]

I've never even fired it I passive leveled it a few times and let it cook until the incarnon rolls around lmao

[fierce lark]

bad without the Incarnon but probably the overall best secondary in the game with

[abstract axle]

most expensive secondary riven too

[plucky spindle]

Does mesas regulators need multi shot

[sonic folio]

everything does

[plucky spindle]

What'll ability efficiency do for her regulators

Ability strength*

[abstract axle]

mesas regulators are unique among exalted weapons in that strength stacks additively with hornet strike and other buffs on that layer

[novel bear]

Damage increase additive to hornet strike

[plucky spindle]

Ightttt

[supple drum]

so was just playing around with a zephyr build im making and... Son Wth is modding even about atp✌️

[minor apex]

can anyone suggest a volt build (without helminth) where weapon is mainly used and survives through steelpath

[abstract axle]

I mean, staying alive is the sticky point on volt. Maybe build for efficiency/ range and still use capacitance to tank/cc? he doesn't really have another way to not die that i'm aware of, unless he can get by on shieldgating with speed

let me try something real quick

[novel bear]

His 4’s augment is decent for shieldgating

Problem is the slow cast time

[safe ore]

Is this worth using?

[abstract axle]

thats almost exactly my boar riven. yes

[abstract axle]

for comparison

the order is super important there since you can make viral heat

[safe ore]

Would mine be considered a god roll?

I don’t know anything about rivens

[versed harbor]

no not rly

[safe ore]

Damn

[versed harbor]

u could probably use it but not a groll

[safe ore]

What would be considered a god role on boar?

[abstract axle]

probably plus heat multi cd minus zoom/ something else harmless.

[versed harbor]

ye depends on build tbh boar incarnon mode can ignore crit sometimes

like a standard cd ms fr elements etc for raw crit or ms fr heat for the dot build probs

with ur harmless negative always

status chance would cook too

[abstract axle]

even if you are pure status, crits enhance your procs, so crit stats are still valuable

[versed harbor]

ik but incarnon boar with status evo has crap crit and u dont build for it

[craggy niche]

is this a decent setup for boltor non incarnon? it's my only viable option for sp circuit rn lol

[abstract axle]

circuits fine, decrees will outstrip enemy scaling, drop wildfire for vital sense

[little drift]

I'd shove a couple more forma in it and go for a higher upgrade in galvanized aptitude

[odd jewel]

How can I improve Zephyr Prime and Paris Prime? I just got 2 of Zephyr's augments but I'm not sure if the best way to go...

[craggy niche]

not gonna go formaing something twice for one circuit run lol ion like the boltor like that

she's already got 4

[abstract axle]

zephyr has two directions: complicated tornado abuse, and 1 spam build. I recommend the 1 spam build with target fixation

[craggy niche]

vital sense thrown in

[craggy niche]

yes always slammin salmon zephyr

peak wf fr

[midnight horizon]

hi i wanted to ask can i make volt nuke steel path with terrify? im using gara right now and shes quite good 500+ levels die instantly but i know volt is not that strong nuking wise but i really like him so im trying to make him work

[opal leaf]

Volt nuke cannot work in very high levels, you can only utilize its 4 using the augment but that's it

And Terrify is bad for Volt as they would run away so makes it more scattered and makes it more hard to catch them all through 4

Learned it the hard way

[midnight horizon]

i see so there is no way to make him nuke with his 4 ? atleast up to level 200-250 thats sad i really like volt haha but thanks

[violet silo]

easy to make him work, near impossible to make him nuke

[opal leaf]

I mean there are ways but it requires buffs from other players

Me and my friend needed a lot of VIRAL stacks, Roar buff and Bright Bonnet Spam JUST to make it nuke like.... 150 levels

But that's it

And as what Melpomene said, that's it... Utilize him and make him work is easier, Nuke him? Nah that's low to none

[violet silo]

unfortunately volt’s 4 is basically only survival

and a bit of cc

[opal leaf]

Yeah

It's a decent CC I would say

[violet silo]

yeah

[opal leaf]

Not that good but not that bad either

[violet silo]

panic button

[opal leaf]

Mhm

[violet silo]

it’s also a subsume slot tho

[opal leaf]

It is XDDD

[midnight horizon]

thanks guys i guess imma stick with gara for nuking then haha 😄 i have almost all nuking frames i enjoy this playstyle the most but volt was my first frame so i i always wanted to make him work at steel path with his 4 too sadly i see its not possible 😄

[opal leaf]

I slot in WA on it

[opal leaf]

It's not "Not" possible, it's just requires a lot of preparation...jusy as Melpomene says it's "Near/Nigh Impossible"

But your welcome, Gara is a STRONG nuke as well with good CC on her with the Aug

[violet silo]

wonder what the level cap doc does for him
i’m gonna go check

[opal leaf]

Who? Volt?

[violet silo]

yeah

[novel bear]

Influence

[hollow scarab]

what is the best dog companion? hounds, pred, or kub?

[novel bear]

Volt is fantastic for influence

[violet silo]

no, apparently we’re running shocking speed and subsuming the 1

wtf am I reading

[novel bear]

What

[hollow scarab]

theres a level cap doc?

[novel bear]

When was this last updated?

[final wasp]

Any tips on where to find companion builds?

[hollow scarab]

PLEASE lmao. i have no idea how to build half of these

[violet silo]

no clue but this is terrible

[final wasp]

I know that I need syntch destruction

[novel bear]

Incredible

[violet silo]

ah pixels

ugh

[novel bear]

This has to be 4 years out of date

No equilibrium lol

[violet silo]

what are we smoking

[novel bear]

Who made this?

[craggy niche]

I hi key don't really use equal all that much

Not really neccesary on most things imo

[violet silo]

get out.

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-void-lugger-daklo-gif-4334627403413065645

[hollow scarab]

is this a good hound build? (i am so lost on both the build and the hound weapon)

[craggy niche]

who would win, one whole mod slot or two itty bity crystal bois

[violet silo]

You use the shards?

[craggy niche]

on some of the things i feel need equil

citrine for instance

[violet silo]

I do not have the purples for that

My purples tend to disappear

[craggy niche]

i'm gonna get 10 purples this week in eta eda just believe me bro

😭

[violet silo]

oddly enough, they often show up on my melee based frames. wonder how that happens 🤔

[craggy niche]

only one i really use purples on is gyre for obvious reasons

oh shit speaking of purples thank you birb

[violet silo]

7 BLUE 4 YELLOW 2 ORANGE

[craggy niche]

i got yellows coming out of my eyeballs

all my homies hate yellow

[earnest saddle]

parkour velocity on mirage

[craggy niche]

SWEET JEEBUS

[violet silo]

oh god
they gave you mommy hildryn

[craggy niche]

BOUTTA solo my eda this week lmfao

i liked hildryn before it was cool to like hildryn

{it's always been cool to like the muscle mommy}

[violet silo]

https://tenor.com/view/hildryn-prime-warframe-hidryn-gif-3086706291248943697

[craggy niche]

heavy breathing

i know i have to omni that exilus and throw corrop on aura i'm just laaazy af

what's a good subsume other than molt for her? i don't have that yet and roar seems a bit like overkill at this point lol

[brittle sleet]

Omamori for lazy shield restore? Nourish so you can run different status weighting on your weapon? Electric Elemental Ward? Pretty much just wants buffs

[hollow scarab]

any tips to improve this? its inate heat rn but i have the thing on it to where i can change it to anything i want (forget the name)

[sonic folio]

Berserker is better than fury

[brittle sleet]

This is Coda Hirudo? Also it's called an Elemental Vice

[hollow scarab]

yeah sorry i named it lmao

its the coda hirudo

ok so berserker fury. anything else? tryna make a build for more or less anything i see as kullervo

[sonic folio]

A build that isn't melee inf pog

I have that 60% electric god roll that appeared last year

[hollow scarab]

i always find those boring and i dont like the "do a bunch of stuff or hope smth procs to do any damage" builds

i have a riven too but no idea what to roll for

or where to put it over

[sonic folio]

I didn't like hurdurido

Gokage felt better

Short ahh range sucks

[hollow scarab]

i have kogake but it feels worse tbh. like my hits just dont feel as hard

[sonic folio]

Not about numbers

It's a coda weapon ofcourse it will be better than a 10 year old non inc/lich weapon

[hollow scarab]

true

[sonic folio]

Truth nuke

[hollow scarab]

i also really like the lifesteal

[sonic folio]

I'd roll a riven that has range on it

[hollow scarab]

aight, i could roll for range and toxin and just replace primed fever

[sonic folio]

Primed is better tho

Look for cold maybe

[hollow scarab]

can do that too

i say tox cuz i have this thing rn

but it IS better to keep primed

[craggy niche]

ohhhhh shit i just got it

ophie for lazy ressing in eda

[sonic folio]

Middest riven ever

Bro pulled the middest riven ever asked to leave relay

[hollow scarab]

i mean now its melee damage, cold, crit

i wanted range but ill take what i can get when i run out of kuva for now

oh no not crit. additional combo chance

still gonna keep rolling tho till i get cold and range

but im out of kuva so at least its not an actual debuff roll

[hollow scarab]

yk, i love the aklex but ts is NOT powerful enough to justify this long a reload.

ill use like a whole mag just to kill one 205 corrupted heavy gunner then have to wait like 5s to reload and do it again

cuz like the single lex is a really good weapon with it's incarnon while the aklex is just kinda... there

best i could make it and it STILL underperforms vs using just one of it. and you would think having 2 of the same gun would make it do MORE damage. and im talking base. like before you even turn on incarnon mode

(dw bout the forma count. a much younger me messed up the build a lot)

[craggy niche]

welp i can't read apparently ophie only works on jade

for ressing anyway. what a dumb rule lmao

question

can regulators fire at the tank?

like the end tank for ETA this week?