builds-discussion

[night laurel]

bo prime then

[brisk estuary]

Cool!

Now the hard part, getting bo prime

Oh it’s <70 on warframe market

I wouldn’t have expected that

[steel swift]

can any1 help me with a protea prime build, a mirage prime build, and maube a khora prime build? perhapos nix or yareli aswell:D

[mighty flare]

khora likes ~200% range with positive duration, she doesn't care for strength (unless using a subsume)
do you have her augments?

[hollow mantle]

no

[steel swift]

yeah one of them

[mighty flare]

whipclaw? thats the most important besides pilfering dome for looting

[steel swift]

this is my current build

[mighty flare]

do you have cunning drift? khora doesnt want to stack too much range or it messes with the farming, usually you only run overextended + cunning to sit just above 200
acquire her whipclaw augment and put it over intensify
equilibrium > energize/streamline, use it over and you dont need energyze

[steel swift]

no i do not

can u sell me nay of them?

i can get her other mod

[mighty flare]

dont have them on me

[steel swift]

fuh

could u help with any pof those others aswell?

[mighty flare]

im away from my main computer rn so cant help there
do you know of the warframe market website? its pretty accessible

[steel swift]

i meant the builds

i use wfm

[fierce lark]

most syndicate-bought warframe augments sit around 10p

[mighty flare]

no they meant builds not augments lol

[mighty flare]

yeah which

[steel swift]

,

any of these

[mighty flare]

mirage is pretty simple, stack duration and strength with her total eclipse augment
you can passive gate with shield delay mods and omamori (if subsumes are open to you)

[steel swift]

this is my build

[quartz bridge]

Is this bassocyst build good?

[fierce lark]

missing some form of ravage, and no way to stack blight unless the tthe progenitor bonus is toxin, which is not advised

cannonade is a choice, not my preference since im always running reinforced bond + the gun does extremely chunky damage as is so it already 1shots most things, rather have better fire rate

and it already has infinite body punch through so that stat doesn't help

if you have primed mods, do viral+electric or corrosive+cold

if you don't, just do viral+electric/heat

with 60 versions of the viral/corrosive mods and 90 heat/elec

and run deadhead as the arcane

galv savvy is multiplicative with other base dmg (projectile moment) so having 2 other sources of base dmg is fine

[thorn oak]

literally everything about this is wrong

[steel swift]

oh wow

not ideal

[fierce lark]

just more strength and less range

[wild rune]

that and bassocyst is the only plasmor-type weapon that actually has a headshot multiplier last I checked
so deadhead is even more useful on it

[thorn oak]

with mirage your main focus should be her 3rd

[oblique dust]

That is a crazy mirage build

[quartz bridge]

unless the projectile can easily headshot without me having to specifically aim for heads, I have dysgraphia which doesnt allow my hands to work that well for headshot builds

[fierce lark]

eh, deadhead has the same effect

plasmor doesn't have a headshot multiplier but it can still headshot, so deadhead is adding a final +30% to your headshots regardless

[steel swift]

meaning?

[thorn oak]

your status should look more like that

[fierce lark]

you can run merciless instead if you want, always an option over dh

[steel swift]

what ab energy??

[fierce lark]

if you can't/don't want to aim

or primary bulwark if you're playing a frame that can easily hit 1500+ armor

[thorn oak]

the only thing youd use lot of energy for is her 4th which isnt very good

[wild rune]

like I get to do this kind of nonsense with basso

but that's also because the riven is already viral-elec

[quartz bridge]

@fierce lark And to answer your other questions, I couldnt fit p. ravage cause I was lazy, I have the primed mods but I dont have the credits or the endo, and yes progenitor is toxin

[thorn oak]

for mirage your main focus is literally her 1 and 3, and whatever you subsume into her 2nd

[fierce lark]

viral elec riven is hilarious

[wild rune]

two free slots lmao

[steel swift]

ok bet

[fierce lark]

i stopped running elementalist on plasmors, the status output is a bit low

[wild rune]

if there's any one way to make a riven useful on a one-dot weapon, just roll viral elec/heat

[quartz bridge]

So as long as the build doesnt require headshots fell free to help guide me with a build

Feel*

[fierce lark]

thats pretty much the only way

that or get 2 good stats + fire rate

[fierce lark]

take the build you have, remove the heat mods and elementalist, and add all 3 primed mods

and replace the arcane with primary merciless

make sure the mods are arranged to make viral+electricity

even if they're only rank 8 they're good

and rank 8 primed mods cost like 10k endo

[wild rune]

oh I just realized my basso isn't 60%

[fierce lark]

if you actually have no endo at all and unranked mods, go do some t5/6 hollvania bounties

[wild rune]

man now I have to wait until next week to fix that

[quartz bridge]

Any suggested progenitor?

[fierce lark]

magnetic or electric

[wild rune]

I'd say electric since basso altfire forces magnetic

[fierce lark]

electric if you actually use the alt fire

i don't because most enemies die in 1 shot anyway

magnetic has a chance to apply magnetic status which helps tremendously against overguard, which are likely the only enemies that have a chance of surviving a shot

[thorn oak]

i am addicted to corrosive cold....

[wild rune]

altfire comes up against specifically eximus or thrax just to give overguard the middle finger

[fierce lark]

cheatcold

[thorn oak]

fast firing shotguns = corrosive cold

[quartz bridge]

Id prefer if I used the maxed out versions, would the normals be ok for now? Max ofc

[wild rune]

ironically I also just use altfire as trash clear if I'm doing a lower level mission

base star chart just gets wiped by it lmao

[thorn oak]

can we talk about how amazinf the boar is? non incarnon its corrosive cold, with incarnon its corrosive blast

[fierce lark]

primed ravage is better at rank 6+, which is omega cheap

but if you don't want to rank up the elements reasonably high it's fine to use viral heat with 60/60 and 90

[quartz bridge]

Oh yeah I shoukda mentioned i only need to max out the elemental mods

Ravage is maxed

[fierce lark]

oh well then yeah

but same thing with elements, at rank 6 they beat out non-primed elementals

[quartz bridge]

Ofc I gotta forma the space for it all

Oh boy, 2 forma and 1 omni is all I have. ...

[fierce lark]

coda/tenet/kuva weapons eventually want 5 forma anyways, you get more MR and +2 ranks for every forma up to 5

[quartz bridge]

You also mentioned something about cannonade being a shit choice right?

[fierce lark]

no actually

usually when i say "thats a choice" it's like passive aggressive "what are you doing lmao"

but i was being genuine

on the arca plasmor cannonade is awful, it has omega slow fire rate and reload also gets slowed down by the fire rate, cant tell if that's a bug with the plasmor or if all guns are like that tbh

bassocyst shoots fast enough that i think it's an acceptable choice if you don't run external fire rate

[quartz bridge]

I dont run external fire rate

[fierce lark]

but im always running reinforced bond on my companion when im playing guns, so cannonade hurts more than it helps

[quartz bridge]

Most of the time

[fierce lark]

if you don't run external fire rate then cannonade can act as a +20% fire rate mod that also adds +240% damage

the gun shoots fast enough at base that i think it's fine

[quartz bridge]

Ive never even touched reinforced cause I could never meet the requirement so....

[fierce lark]

only a few companions can

vulpaphylas, predasites, i think 1 or 2 kubrows, hounds depending on the config, wyrm prime and nautilus prime

[quartz bridge]

I have a panzer, a (probably shit) hound and nautilus

Still not sire how id build for that tho and keep its utility

[fierce lark]

panzer works for everything

[quartz bridge]

Anyway back to the bassocyst

@fierce lark So I wanna run primed charged shell and chilling grasp right? And just normal contagious spread since it probably doesnt have a primed variant

Ravage too ofc

[fierce lark]

toxic barrage

[quartz bridge]

Ah

[fierce lark]

generally your combined element wants to be 60/60 if it's not primed

unless the weapon is completely non-status focused, extra status chance will offer more than 30% more elemental damage adding on top of the 300/400% you already have

and usually the single element is a dot element, so keeping the toxin mod as a 60 helps shift more weighting onto your dot status

[craggy niche]

chat does firestorm make vadarya spread out more

[fierce lark]

no

[craggy niche]

aweee

[quartz bridge]

So this right? (The unranked primes are just to illustrate my point, ravage too)

[fierce lark]

yep that's pretty much it

you can swap between corrosive/cold and viral/electricity depending on faction, like you'd prefer corrosive damage against grineer and scaldra

viral+elec against everything else

except cambion drift infested bc most of them are immune to viral smile

and then cannonade is flexible with primed point blank or shotgun barrage depending on how much fire rate you want

[quartz bridge]

Ty, also would you mind taking a look at my torxica? It already does good damage but I know I can squeeze more out

[fierce lark]

sure

although the tl;dr is gonna be corrosive+heat with external viral magnetic progenitor

pretty generic high dps secondary, corrosive over viral bc it has both primed elec and primed heat

[quartz bridge]

Radiation is progenitor only bc I didint wanna wait months for there to be a good one, merciless fight bc I didint know what else, and diffusion isint maxed bc I was short on endo and I forgot to max it since

[fierce lark]

pimed target over gunfight, and creeping bullseye over scorch

scorch being there is causing you to make blast toxin instead of viral heat

[midnight horizon]

That is some high SC

[quartz bridge]

Which was my intention yes.

[fierce lark]

i see enervate, 25% is more than enough to mod for crit rather than using enervate

[midnight horizon]

Do dual coda have high SC?

[steel swift]

can someone help me with a weapon platform/mini nuke wisp with fulman?

this what im running now, good o rbad?

[fierce lark]

yes

[midnight horizon]

Damn aight

Still Bassocyst tho hahaha

[fierce lark]

28% base with an extremely high volume of fire

it can do statuses

[quartz bridge]

@fierce lark So basically this? Is enervate also good where its at?

[steel swift]

can someone help me with a wisp weapon platform build with fulman

[gaunt star]

For weapon platform it's going all in on strength, something for energy regen then duration for qol

[solid delta]

I say primed pistol gambit over creeping bullseye

the loss of firerate is not worth it

[steel swift]

ok bet

[quartz bridge]

Hm

[craggy niche]

woah

when did they add a speed bonus to infiltrate?

[midnight horizon]

Bassocyst still smash shit right? Does it have a fall off? Like Nataruk?

[quartz bridge]

Ok so does galvanized acceleration effect the range at which you can use your secondary fire from?

[fierce lark]

nataruk has a fall off?

[midnight horizon]

Oh no no I mean... Is it like Nataruk? No fall off?

[fierce lark]

yes also if you have ppg it is better than creeping, i just assumed you didn't cause no primed mods slotted

but yeah primed pistol gambit is always better than bullseye unless you're using cannonade

very marginal difference though

[fierce lark]

this one i have no idea, galv acceleration went on and stayed on

[fierce lark]

the projectile itself has no falloff, idr if the damage does but if it does it’ll say in the stats

[midnight horizon]

Thanks

[quartz bridge]

The firerate is good enough for my liking ngl

[fierce lark]

from a pure mathematical standpoint, it's rarely worth gaining 13% crit chance to lose 20% fire rate

[novel bear]

More sources of external fire rate than external crit

Reinforced bond probably makes creeping better

[velvet pulsar]

Unless ur shots are accidentally getting wasted after enemy death

[lean tendon]

Ezpz to offset that -20% fire rate

[novel bear]

Though secondaries do have crit shards

[velvet pulsar]

Secondaries also have amalgam furax

Secondaries also have that tauron arcane

[novel bear]

That’s not fire rate or crit, is it?
Thought it was heat damage

[velvet pulsar]

Amalgam furax is fire rate
Forgot about tauron arcane being heat

[mighty flare]

ppg still beats creeps even with external fire rate (like velocity)
but the difference isnt that important

[velvet pulsar]

If ur CC is consistent with PPG then keep it

If it doesn't reach 100%, maybe try alternative

[hollow mantle]

This arcane just doesn't work anymore I guess.

Past 5 games I've loaded into it just refuses to procc.

[craggy niche]

is there any holes in this that anyone can see?

other than it being ivara

i'm not really using her 4 unless acolytes cuz it's really good for those shits

using it with vadarya prime with this build, energy consumption on prowl is 0.6/s

[eternal prism]

its work. just bugged

[hollow mantle]

I finally got it to work after reloading the mission seven times.

[eternal prism]

I recommend playing around with the stat ratios a little. I didn't spend much time testing them for convenience

[hollow mantle]

But my favorite part is that it also just disables itself without fail if you die a single time.

[eternal prism]

if u not host it looks bugged. and if u die also it bugged

[hollow mantle]

This has been a known bug for years and they haven't done a thing to fix what keeps causing it to most buffs in the game.

[eternal prism]

idk in any case, this is a very strong arcana

even with such shortcomings... it gives too much

[quartz bridge]

Ok so like was my earlier message just deleted?

Ok nvm I found it

[eternal ginkgo]

viced my bassocyst so now it does toxin instead of radiation

i need an adapter but this is what i've got

[fierce lark]

shotgun vendetta is a trap

[fierce lark]

also if you're at the point of the game where you can buy coda weapons, you really should get galvanized mods and at least max ranked steel path arcanes

they are a gargantuan step up in power

[eternal ginkgo]

i knowwww, i just don't really have the energy often for arbitrations

i am very much a more casual player

[fierce lark]

i get it, i don't like them either

[eternal ginkgo]

i'm not really trying to become super duper op tbh, i just wanna feel like i'm doing well

[fierce lark]

but pub arbis these days are pretty casual, most people have largely outscaled them so you'll probably just end up getting carried anyway

queue in pubs with some resource boosters, a resource blessing and a pet with resourceful retriever, you'll get a good chunk of vitus quickly even just doing it casually, and a big pile of endo

or you can buy galvanized mods from players on market, and they don't come with the massive credit tax that primed mods have

you could probably buy the entire set of galv mods for like 60-80p

(unranked)

@quiet laurel sorry for ping but ik you hang out there, does arbis disc have like a trading channel for mod sets?

[eternal ginkgo]

i will probably do it eventually, but i'm takin my time, i don't really feel the need to get the crazy mods since i'm doing fine without them for now

as long as things are dying i am happy

plus i don't stay in missions till level cap or anything

[fierce lark]

well, if what you have is working then you do you, but it's hard to make it better until you have the resources to do so

[eternal ginkgo]

right now my main goal is gathering frames

[dense belfry]

ive obtained a grimoire riven
a; is the grimoire good and b: what should i try to get on the riven

[craggy niche]

is it the dual toxycyst ya'll are using on cyte?

[fierce lark]

grimoire is okay for the point at which you get it as a dps weapon, but it's mainly a utility weapon.

the riven disposition is atrociously bad and i wouldn't bother wasting the kuva to roll one, but if you want to anyways you're really just lookig for fire rate/multishot to charge the alt fire faster

[eternal prism]

u can why not

u can use any incarnon with any warframe.

[fierce lark]

you can but you wouldn't be getting much out of the frame

resupply doesn't work on incarnons

not that dtox needs help, but the only reason i can think of to play cyte with it would be for evade cheese, and evade is his subsume

[weak jasper]

hey chat

[craggy niche]

seek plus ricochet

[weak jasper]

Is amprex any good or should I just not waste forma?

[fierce lark]

it's not terrible but there are better beams

[craggy niche]

if you have access to amprex you have access to better beams

they're in the biolab

synapse is pretty much s tier for beams and doesn't require a bunch of unlocks

[fierce lark]

i doubt regular synapse is that good, coda synapse felt pretty meh

[craggy niche]

as far as beams go it's really good. coda is not really any better but there are use cases that beams are great

[fierce lark]

good beams are like torid incarnon, tenet glaxion, quanta vandal

upcoming tenet quanta

for the primary slot anyways

[craggy niche]

i use synapse for gyre because it's got a 40 percent base crit

[astral tinsel]

I'd rank coda synapse above quanta vandal

[fierce lark]

i dont actually remember why i didn't like the coda synapse

[craggy niche]

as far as i can find the coda synapse isn't neccesarily make or break it's just a free element

[fierce lark]

it should be insanely good having base corrosive

[astral tinsel]

And yes it's a massive upgrade over the regular one

[fierce lark]

i'll look at it again another time

[craggy niche]

how so?

[velvet pulsar]

Coda Synapse low SC isn't even a problem because being a beam weapon

Just multiply the SC with MS

[fierce lark]

it's not a massive upgrade tbh, but it's a pretty good one

most of the stat increases are rather slight

[astral tinsel]

Free 1.2m punch through, more range, 15% higher base damage +60% more from progenitor

[fierce lark]

oh the punch through wasn't listed in the comparisons

nvm that's a big deal

[velvet pulsar]

Comparison pages aren't too good TBH

[craggy niche]

riven disposition of 1 tho

[craggy niche]

bleh

[velvet pulsar]

The audacity of posting this in a builds channel.

[fierce lark]

it's a bit weird cause it wants to run viral due to innate corrosive, but it's not a status weapon so heat/elec kinda feel pointless

[astral tinsel]

Ironically I'm a filthy jobhaver

who spends more time here than playing on weekdays lol

[fierce lark]

mine is also completely butchered with 25% progenitor so yikes

also why do i have elementalist there when i literally just said it's not a status weapon

[sonic folio]

Are you employed tho?

[craggy niche]

i just like it cuz it makes gyre's stuff go crazy

[velvet pulsar]

So you're now going to ask personal info on the internet, to a random stranger?

GG

[sonic folio]

Ok you are not got it

[vagrant anvil]

Is the Zenistar worth building nowadays?

[astral tinsel]

It's got enough status to self-prime corrosive-viral-mag

And then just pump the crit

[velvet pulsar]

Only for mag or ivara

[vagrant anvil]

Oh how come for mag?

[fierce lark]

nvm i fixed it

turns out you just corroblast with a CO primer, because of course you do

[velvet pulsar]

The disc rotates in magnetize

[weak jasper]

I have a built and potatoed amprex though

From way back when

[craggy niche]

what do you want it for?

[craggy niche]

just as generalistic or do you want it for something specific

[weak jasper]

Reducing enemy health to 0

[fierce lark]

i was about to say "if i could be bothered to vice it"

i DID vice it

we need to bullshit around some more

[weak jasper]

I've been thinking of maybe building it into corrosive for hydroid

If hydroid is even any good outside of loot

I just lack a generalist primary that isn't nataruk

My lich weapon I'm working on (requiem mod grinding is so bad) is ogris which is def not generalist

So it'll be a while before I can get codas

[fierce lark]

lol

"we have torid at the concert" type shit

[weak jasper]

Man I need to farm critical delay

For which I need to farm orokin eye...

I did an hour of corrupted mod running on Titania and I did not enjoy that without eye

[astral tinsel]

Eye highlights vaults?

[weak jasper]

Yes

[velvet pulsar]

Good news.

[fierce lark]

yeah okay i take it back coda synapse is really really good

granted the dumb shit im doing requires a CO primer

[craggy niche]

i always fall back on the old fulmin prime when i don't know what else to run

[weak jasper]

This just calls the lich

[craggy niche]

burston prime is really good with incarnon

[velvet pulsar]

And you're getting a universal requiem relic

[craggy niche]

shit absolutely slaps on whatever you put it on

[weak jasper]

I have 0 parts of that

[velvet pulsar]

What syndicate u have pledged to?

[weak jasper]

I returned after a 7 year pause

[weak jasper]

Suda, so steel and hexis secondaries

[velvet pulsar]

U can afford Telos Boltor

[weak jasper]

I just got higasa, not sure it's any good

[craggy niche]

it's uhh

something lol. there's a special serrated mod for it

[astral tinsel]

Not very

[night laurel]

it has a big bandaid that gives it +450% dmg

[astral tinsel]

What's your MR?

[weak jasper]

21

[astral tinsel]

You could get the Zariman incarnons then

[craggy niche]

yeee there's always laetum and uhhhh

felarx and phenmor

[astral tinsel]

Phenmor, Laetum, Innodem

[craggy niche]

felarx is really good too albeit it's incarnon mode is kinda bleh

[velvet pulsar]

Felarx so u have incarnon without needing to charge incarnon

And laetum because sheer power

[astral tinsel]

And Innodem because it's the easiest incarnon melee to get

[craggy niche]

i still gotta mess around with phenmor i hear that shit's really good

i really like the okinas too

[summer moon]

i think after the last damage rebalance almost every weapon in the game has decent damage

[astral tinsel]

Also the projectiles can proc influence and go through walls

[craggy niche]

the okina projectiles?

[velvet pulsar]

That's it, I'm gonna stop u right there!

[astral tinsel]

Innodem

[craggy niche]

ohhh

[velvet pulsar]

U tell me how exactly can someone make those horrible projectiles good

I've been trying it with Ivara's Navigator for wall hack influence build

[craggy niche]

lmao

[velvet pulsar]

And even that isn't enough

[craggy niche]

i just use ivara for that one funni sniper rifle with the lightning bolts

[velvet pulsar]

She can use a lot of weapons well

[craggy niche]

vadarya

i do that with nourish for viral procs and sheesh

not really topping the boards but it's fun and chill lol

[weak jasper]

That'll get released in three weeks though

[craggy niche]

higasa is like the one weapon i ever think about putting fire rate mods on lol

[astral tinsel]

I just spam the projectiles in the direction of red dots until they diaappear

[weak jasper]

Will be helpful for other lich weapons I'm interested in

[craggy niche]

just feels so.. bad lol

[weak jasper]

But I want to kill this lich first for my funny mirage gun platform build

and move on to technocytes

where I'm interested in a number of weapons

[craggy niche]

what would you even put on higasa anyway.. Viral heat?

[weak jasper]

https://overframe.gg/build/759335/higasa/higasa-corrosive-cold-and-variants/

I don't know, mines still in the foundry

I just wanted a generically good machine gun that I can drrr with and still get headshots and weak points

I used to be a vandal supra enjoyer way back when but it's obviously unusable now

[craggy niche]

it's a burst rifle

but it do be interesting. i got 6 formas on mine lmao

[gaunt forge]

Hi everybody

I really need help!
I'm very new to this game (only 30hrs gameplay) and I decided to buy prime things like warframe, primary/secondary prime guns, melee and the whole loudout to spend all my time and energy on it and reach to maxedout lvl with that build. My personal choic was "revenant" but honestly im not sure.

Can any veteran player help me? I'll be greatful 🙏

[eternal prism]

You can use whatever you like. Currently, all or almost all weapons with a good build can cover content up to level cap
So I advise you to listen to what you like visually and in terms of gameplay

[gaunt forge]

Interesting... Such a balanced game! I totally agree with you on guns, but I think some Warframes are better than others. So, which male prime Warframes are super strong right now? Are any of them really special?

[eternal prism]

I wouldn't say its a complete balance issue... rather, new ways to increase damage have appeared thanks to new arcana and recent rebalancing of enemy armor.
among male warframes, I personally like caliban, cyte, and nokko

If you need a way to never die, you can look at gauss

or also revenant

[midnight horizon]

Not super strong, but super useful that he can turn the tide in seconds

Vauban

[gaunt forge]

My personal choice was "revenant"
But im not sure about his dmg

I mean is it just like a useless tank? Or it can also destroy enemies?

[midnight horizon]

Nah his 3 is very powerful

It eats 20...or...30...or smth Hp% of an enemy

[eternal prism]

There are no tanks in the game. Any Warframe can be turned into a weapon platform

[midnight horizon]

Not sure how many but ya

[eternal prism]

If I'm not mistaken, you can overclock it to 100%

In any case, if you want a platform, revenant isn't the best option. but with helminth, it'll still be good overall. I often see people take it to level cap mission simply because it doesn't die

[night laurel]

specifically male? valk does everything in the board

[gaunt forge]

Omg...
Too much infos....
I really confused. Firstly I wanted to invest on Excalibur but now I really don't know what is the best choice!

I just want a decent prime loudout and grind for enhancing it 🫠

[eternal prism]

for now, you can take whatever you want. You'll have to collect all the warframes anyway

[gaunt forge]

Yes, I like to play as male warframes only

[gaunt forge]

Ash Prime
Atlas Prime
Baruuk Prime
Caliban Prime (Released late 2025)
Chroma Prime
Excalibur Prime (Founder exclusive, unavailable for purchase)
Frost Prime
Gauss Prime
Grendel Prime
Harrow Prime
Hydroid Prime
Inaros Prime
Lavos Prime (Released early 2025)
Limbo Prime
Loki Prime
Nekros Prime
Nezha Prime
Nidus Prime
Oberon Prime
Revenant Prime
Rhino Prime
Sevagoth Prime
Styanax Prime (Released March 2026)
Vauban Prime
Volt Prime
Wukong Prime

Its the prime male warframes if im not mistaken. And trying to find out the best one !

For now, im into revenant or Dante. But im not sure.
I'll appreciate all your opinions

[eternal prism]

Theyre all good to some extent. The only thing I wouldn't recommend is chroma, because at the moment it's practically useless in my opinion and isn't needed for anything other than farming credits

[summer moon]

ash is the best xD (in my opinion)
nekros is good too, if you don't have enough resources

[summer moon]

profit-taker and the index...

[eternal prism]

nekros can kill level cap by his friends :/

It's fun but not very convenient gameplay... like on equinox

[summer moon]

and he has a good deluxe skin xD

[eternal prism]

Only in case of equinox is it possible without vazarin

i want buff equi duality

[unkempt plover]

hey, I'm looking for a lot of builds but all time i see people like saying to better switch x mod for y so idk really where to look for a good good build? which is the most reliable place to look for?

[eternal prism]

learn on your own... read a lot. look for a mentor

wiki your friend

[summer moon]

you don't need to find a good build. You need to know how to build

[unkempt plover]

okay, i like that answer, thank you so much, I'll go get the ball knowledge ajsjsjsjajsj any recommendations for YouTube channels or whatever it works?

[eternal prism]

Finding a good build is the first thing I would think about before learning.

At least this will give an idea of ​​what can be put into a weapon

[eternal prism]

I could recommend one russian channel, but only if you're willing to watch with subtitles

[summer moon]

do you think about leeryway?

[eternal prism]

☠️

[summer moon]

what?

[eternal prism]

not the best choice

[summer moon]

and he has removed all his videos xD

[unkempt plover]

i think i also need to get good mods as archon and Galvanizes ones, are like essential?

[weak jasper]

Boo

[eternal prism]

I don't want to insult him, but in our community he's not very popular for his cringe-worthy advice

[summer moon]

he is still better than nzlo xD

[weak jasper]

Loki:

[eternal prism]

still not bad

[weak jasper]

Loki is clearly from a game that doesn't exist any more

There are better frames even for spy missions

[eternal prism]

it is used for arbitrations

if dont know trick with drifter

[midnight horizon]

But as a spy frame, he has good CC

[fierce lark]

can also be used in aya farms

[eternal prism]

There are no bad male frames, there is chroma

[summer moon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzDKlsranIE
i can recommend this video as base for understanding how damage is multiplied, even though this createor likes corrosive damage too much

[summer moon]

there is an operator for spy missions xD

[eternal prism]

moa

[velvet pulsar]

Can Wrathful Advance teleport through lasers?

Coz I suspect that Follie's 1 can as well.

[fierce lark]

wtf is this video lol

im pretty sure ive seen it before but im watching it again, and the first actual thing he says about modding is an immediate red flag

[velvet pulsar]

I'll never recommend MHblacky vids

Can't get the research right

[summer moon]

I don't know a good complete video about damage. If someone doesn't want to read a lot of wiki texts

[fierce lark]

this video is outdated, horrifically so

like pre-damage 2.0

[velvet pulsar]

Honestly it's a pain to explain all that easily

[summer moon]

yes, but in current meta, as i said earlier, almost every weapon can kill 9999

[summer moon]

anyway damage multiply hasn't changed since 2015 i think, so this part of the video is still valid

[eternal prism]

If you're interested in watching with subtitles https://youtu.be/8hFksZ-usI8?si=NvZBSxPAy47boCO6
I didn't see anything useful on english youtube

[velvet pulsar]

I'm glad my YouTube ain't famous

[queen sandal]

Nineteen hours left voteeee:D #1477886221643415747 message

[urban hazel]

is there any warframe builder that actually accounts for semi-rifle cannonade's fire rate modification negate?

[night laurel]

underframe?

[versed harbor]

no point even reading the stats tbh

[lean tendon]

Overframe maybe? There's an option that you can use to add conditional effects

[night laurel]

underframe can also add conditional effects and external buffs

[lean tendon]

But I think you don't even need external sites tbh

Using semi cannonade mods just make you unable to modify fire rate

So it's pretty much the base fire rate I think

[night laurel]

might want to calculate smth like critical delay

[lean tendon]

No it will just stay base

It's perma locked to base fire rate

[versed harbor]

probs want the dps calcs but theyre innaccurate on overframe anyway

[lean tendon]

Even if you equip mods with negative or positive fire rate, so long as semi cannonade is there it will be locked to the base fire rate of the weapon no matter what.

[versed harbor]

ye

[night laurel]

yeah

[lean tendon]

So there's really no need for calculation

[quiet laurel]

the discord trading channels are mostly for rivens
this is pretty much true for all endgame servers

[night laurel]

huh

[lean tendon]

Same for Warframe Endo discord

Everything is riven selling there

[last karma]

can anyone tell if this xoris build is good enough for steelpath. if not pls help me build

[urban hazel]

it doesn't account for semi-rifle's fire rate negate when calculating dps, so no

[urban hazel]

looks promising, ill give that a go

[opaque wave]

anyone can recommend me a khorra prime build for farming

[last karma]

xoris

[modern vale]

You can use Sacrifice Steel and Sacrifice Pressure to buff base damage and crit chance

But you would need Forma xd

[lean tendon]

Farm the amalgam mods from Thermia Fractures

[modern vale]

You can use these too

[last karma]

okok thanks

[lean tendon]

And use Amalgam Organ Shatter

Also use Focus Energy instead of Shocking Touch

[sour gyro]

What's a fun frame to try out?

[lean tendon]

Very subjective

[last karma]

ohh okok

[lean tendon]

It really depends on your playstyle

[lean tendon]

Shocking Touch is more damage but the Heavy Efficiency will help you until you get the Amalgam Organ Shatter

If you have Melee Elementalist use that as well

[last karma]

what does heavy efficiency do?

[lean tendon]

Reduces the cost of heavy attacks

[last karma]

cost?

[lean tendon]

Combo points

Now that I checked, Amalgam Organ Shatter is Heavy Wind Up Speed so ignore what I said earlier. Reflex should be enough but if you want to cap then Focus Energy + Reflex should give you the cap which is 90%

[last karma]

ohh ok

tyyyy

[late hemlock]

You shouldn't really care about efficiency you are gonna be just heavy spamming with the initial combo

[modern vale]

If you want a personal recommendation, try:

• Rhino
• Caliban
• Chroma

But these are just personal recommendations

[sour gyro]

Rhino is one of my mains, caliban I don't have, and chroma is another one of my mains 😭

[modern vale]

Lmao

[sour gyro]

Was thinkingg about harrow or voruna

[modern vale]

Then, test:

• Dante
• Still Caliban
• Voruna

[sour gyro]

I'll try voruna tomorrow

[modern vale]

Dante is goated, Im saying as a Dante glazer

[sour gyro]

I never tried him, but yeah he's definitely strong

[summer moon]

What does “a fun frame” mean to you?

[sour gyro]

If I'm not dying easy

[night laurel]

harrow has invulnerability that, when it ends, gives you up to +50% (+200%) flat crit chance
2 takes your shields but it heals for every damage you deal, also gives you +fire rate and +reload
3 is energy for every kill
1 restores shields every enemy hit

i'm a harrow glazer

[summer moon]

you can try
valkyr
ash
revenant? (you won't die)
khora
mesa
nekros
baruuk
protea
wisp

[quiet laurel]

try every frame atp

[midnight horizon]

Inaros
Revenant
Dante
Hdryn
Nezha
Oberon
Nidus

[quiet laurel]

every frame is not dying easily

[summer moon]

inaros? r u sure?

[night laurel]

real
in 2026 everyone has survivability options

[quiet laurel]

persistence and you are unkillable basically

and everyone else is just shield gating

except they have invuln

[sour gyro]

Immma be real, shield gating is so bad

[midnight horizon]

Yup

I'm pretty invulnerable

[quiet laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/ragebait-rage-bait-lol-lmao-gif-3554026694133497645

[night laurel]

inaros was the og healthtank

[midnight horizon]

It maybe bad...... But.... It made me survive SP contents using Vauban fr fr

[summer moon]

that isn't true
if you use grace to heal

[sour gyro]

I just use circumvent and rollingg guard foor vauban

[midnight horizon]

I'm lazy shield gating on Vaubs

[sour gyro]

Shield gating imo is more work

[quiet laurel]

its muscle memory after a while

[midnight horizon]

Tru3

[sour gyro]

Not for me, I'd rather use adaptation than catalyzing shields

[waxen spire]

If someone here is a Wisp main or know a good build for wisp that can carry me even at lvl cap, can u guys share it?

[midnight horizon]

I mean for me.... It's whatever... If I survive, I survive

That's me

[summer moon]

If you mention shield gating, you should also talk about statuses that can bypass shields.

[midnight horizon]

Health tank
Shield gate
Shield tank
Crowd Control
Invisibility
Invincibility

Any forms of Survivability I'll use it

[sour gyro]

Only one tthat does is toxin no?

[waxen spire]

?

[sour gyro]

Toxin and slash

[summer moon]

and it can oneshot u

[lavish orbit]

You forgor eraser, can't be killed if its dead

[midnight horizon]

Yeah that's the bad part of shield gate

But if you die on Toxin? There are ways to counter it tbh

[sour gyro]

That's why I say rolling guard or run Wyrm with negate

[midnight horizon]

True true

But that's more offense

[midnight horizon]

I use 5 hahahah

[sour gyro]

Imo the worst part of shield gate is having to spam abilities with 45% efficiency

[summer moon]

no, only toxin, my bad

[midnight horizon]

Hahahah I don't use that

I have Vauban spamming at 100%

As I said my style is lazy shield gating

[lavish orbit]

Feels like Saryn is the best imo for that, spamming her 2nd is so smooth

[midnight horizon]

My style is:

Augur Mod
Cata Shields
Fast Deflections
Arcane Aegis

That alone able to make me immortal and It fits for vaubssss

[sour gyro]

I just spam vauban 3 with his aug

[midnight horizon]

I have Omamori on his 3

I don't really use his 3

[sour gyro]

His 3 is amazing

[midnight horizon]

I know

It's his nuke ability

[sour gyro]

I sub over his 1, his 1 is horrible still imo

[eternal prism]

wisp platform?

[midnight horizon]

His one with tesla bank and 3 is able to nuke more tbh

[eternal prism]

I recommend choosing your stats for yourself. I don't think many people will find this convenient

[sour gyro]

I triedd it, it did less for me

[midnight horizon]

It works more now since it'll stick to rag dolls hahaha

[sour gyro]

I only saw his 1 as a good way to enable archon stretch

[midnight horizon]

Fair

That's very very fair tbh

[sour gyro]

Even then, it stiill felt useless when I tried it

I'd rather aoe nuke with 3, have no energy expended and be able to spam with it being able to scale

[midnight horizon]

Ehhh it's true

Well we have our eays

Like me I have him on pure CC no nuke hahaha as his 3 is his weakest ability

CC is my thingggg

Anyways gtg!

Cya tennos!!!

[waxen spire]

Ty

[valid plaza]

If my weapon has little status chance(meaning I plan to kill with one or two heavy slams)

What's the elemental combo I wanna put on?

[eternal prism]

u mean magistar or etc?

toxin

[rapid hollow]

Hi guys can you help me build my wisp hehe

[eternal prism]

and arcane with corrosive

like this

[valid plaza]

Is galvanized steel better than sacrificial?

[eternal prism]

If you just need a platform and not just put flowers and forget about it, then the build above

[eternal prism]

yes cuz it give u crit damage

[late hemlock]

Very dependant on how much cc you got, its also very easy to get CD if your setup has purple shards

[eternal prism]

crit chance u can get from blood rush or riven

but Im not sure you'll have slot for blood rush

[eternal prism]

almost always a galvanized mod will be better

[late hemlock]

This is an exception

CD is just so abundant on a minmaxed setup that losing half of the CC value can hurt

Now ofc its different when you arent building into it but it does depend

[eternal prism]

In any case, even purple shards will be redundant. It's better to make the frame more convenient than to make it narrowly focused

[valid plaza]

...me with 5 purple shards on Baruuk...

[late hemlock]

Going from 110 cc to 275 cc if you use double sac is pretty huge so this is the one case where non galvanized has a lot of use cases

[eternal prism]

Almost always, you either have galvanized + CD or just galvanized. There's no need to use shards on CD

Because crit chance is also easy to get. Bloodrush is an example if you really need it. But basically, cd>cc

red number doesn't necessarily mean a lot of damage

[maiden owl]

Anyone could trade w me pls I’m tryna make a full Torid build

[eternal prism]

for melee influence you always use both bloodrush and galvanized mod

for heavy builds you will always have enough cc

[limpid belfry]

is this secondary?

[lavish orbit]

Aura mod on frame

[eternal prism]

yes but this aura useless

[limpid belfry]

yes but does it count for Dante's main weapon?

[lavish orbit]

Pistols mean secondary though

[limpid belfry]

nvm growing power probably better lol

[lavish orbit]

100%

[eternal prism]

aura give additive damage for weapon

so it anyway useless aura

[limpid belfry]

mhm

right

[icy urchin]

what archon shards do people recommend for yareli with merulina guardian cus i see a surprising lack of people recommending the secondary crit chance ones, im assuming they just dont scale great with her crit passive?

[midnight horizon]

#trading

[eternal prism]

It doesn't matter what others use. The frame should be convenient for you

[icy urchin]

yeah but i dont rlly know what actually is convenient

[eternal prism]

cast ability parkour velocity duration ability and etc

[icy urchin]

i dont think yareli benefits from parkour velocity and casting speed on merulina at all unless ur doing a surging blades build

[last karma]

can this xoris build reach 1m damage?

[eternal prism]

There's no need to enhance weapon by putting shards. The weapon works fine without them.
I think I translated it correctly. Im not very good at english

[eternal prism]

when merulina die u can recast faster

can be used for both skill 1 and skill 4 if you use helminth

[icy urchin]

does merulinas health pool benefit from armour cus ive seen a couple of builds run armour shards and if i just dont lose merulina to begin with surely thats better

[eternal prism]

Indirectly. The less damage you take, the less Merulina takes. It works as an adaptation

[icy urchin]

fittingly adaptation is also insane on her because it gives you 99% damage reduction total

[eternal prism]

This is not necessary if you play a regular sp and are not going to lvlcap
If you want to go to lvlcap, you don't want to ride merulin and also not want use armor or adaptation

[icy urchin]

fair

its annoying how strong the multiplicitive damage buffing from bubbles is with loyal merulina cus it makes playing her for her main gimmick feel silly

im gonna keep using merulina guardian tho for sure

[eternal prism]

Theyre not very comfortable. Theyre better suited for single target kills, like demolishers or traxes

[mellow nimbus]

Should I go for primary or secondary for vermisplicer?

[icy urchin]

from the guides im seeing on various platforms there seems to be no real consensus on the best way to make yareli tanky so ill just do whatever xd

[eternal prism]

That's where u should have started

[icy urchin]

i usually do just do whatever but i at least wanna see how stuff works first and if theres any synergy im missing the existence of

[eternal prism]

You can use a second augment on Merulina (literally multiplies your damage from bubbles again)

he is very useful

[icy urchin]

yeah ive used that a couple of times but dont think i wanna invest into a build with it cus it kinda takes out what i like about her

ik hes worse at it but i have limbo for that kinda CC and buffing damage on targets with augment mod thing

[eternal prism]

You dont need to invest much there. If I'm not mistaken, with augment it's almost like a buff mirage

(without any mod only augment)

[icy urchin]

yeah its not super high investment to be fair ik she likes strength a little bit more with loyal merulina cus it works with the damage buffing

with merulina guardian strength is still useful for merulina HP and the buffing but a pretty significant chunk of ur damage is just from the weapon buffing that doesnt scale with it, and u can get tanky in better ways

[eternal prism]

merulina get hp when u take damage when u cast it

during invulnerability

[icy urchin]

yeah ive seen that mentioned quite a few times but i cant actually notice it increasing in practice maybe ive just conveniently not taken damage every time ive tried to look

i also kinda want a new thing to subsume onto her i have nourish over her 3 atm but im kinda bored of it i want something that feels more like an ability that does something instead of just passive "do more damage"

[dense belfry]

is the Azothane good? workin on getting it for my warframes as i grind duviris melees

[eternal prism]

look at the buff above

[eternal prism]

not bad

[dense belfry]

i assume "could be better"?

its crit stuff seems to be really strong, 34% base and 3x base

which, as someone who mains kullervo, could be really good

[eternal prism]

as long as incarnons exist, yes

In any case, any weapon will be good now

[dense belfry]

i wouldnt say everything needs to handle into incarnon, as long as im able to kill

[eternal prism]

incarnons are simply overbuffed. Otherwise, any weapon can kill even a level cap

depends on build

[icy urchin]

oh its for like several seconds after casting? i thought it was just during the animation

[eternal prism]

4 sec

This also works for the second augment when you're not riding

and also give u anti stugger

[dense belfry]

so with kullervo i take as long as it scales with crit it good

[eternal prism]

if merulina is not very far away

[eternal prism]

choice is yours, but I'd lean toward the side where the build kills even without a platform

It's easier to adapt if you really like weapon

[dense belfry]

well true, im more building in general as A: i dont know if i have a main melee (though Hate seems to be really solid) with Wratih as my gauntlets

though kullervos shotgun sucks ripe ASS for damage, its great as a combo maker on big targets

[eternal prism]

use archgun for combo

if heavy build and if its a long run then melee crescendo
if not long run then galvanized mod on combo

daikyu will revive slash☠️

[scarlet mason]

Will sarofag, voruna's signature mele weapone, activate mele afflictions 2 times at once if u trigger its special effect of vortex at 8x combo? 1 time from lift and 2 time from vortex's ragdoll?

[frigid pollen]

Any tips and tricks for this build? It kinda does a decent job but like, it's got a relatively low ceiling, all things considered

Okay, well, it depends on the unit, like always, ig, so it will do a fantastic job against corpus but maybe there's a change or two i could just to make it have a slightly higher ceiling? Those units are SP, btw, so it at least is decent

[scarlet mason]

You don't have any base damage mods

[frigid pollen]

Jugulus Barbs adds 90% puncture, if that helps

[scarlet mason]

Yeah but only puncture right?

[frigid pollen]

true

i could replace Berserker Fury with Primed pressure point, since the build is meant for Wisp, which has the haste reservoir

[scarlet mason]

Maybe organ shatter instead?

You already have ton of crit dmg

If u add some 165% base dmg it will be like you almost doubled you crits instead of just 90% from base

[frigid pollen]

Right

Okay lemme make the change rq

[undone dust]

destreza as a melee in general is kind of eh
it's used in a really niche setup but thats about it

well not used as much anymore but still occasionally used

[frigid pollen]

Well, that change was dramatic. Killed kuva grineer twice as fast after that

[frigid pollen]

Fair and reasonable. I've already got the okina prime with a build that works very well with one of my wisp builds, I'm moreseo just tryna see the limits of the destreza and also have an alternative weapon that plays differently enough to vary my gameplay

[undone dust]

marked for death rhino will still probably be the only thing that makes destreza interesting

[scarlet mason]

Well yeah. Its like 10 x 10(crit dmg) = 100 and 26.8 x 7(crit dmg or sth like that) = 201

[frigid pollen]

spot on, 7.5 actually xD

But yeah, that is very true

[scarlet mason]

Unless you used valcyr instead of wisp than you could keep organ shatter

But that would change the warframe and you don't want that

[frigid pollen]

True, true. That's a very good shout

But yeah, I'm not planning on maining Destreza at least. If it does show up in duviri, tho, I'll be set xD

[summer moon]

You can add a fraction damage mod, even though I don't like it xD

[scarlet mason]

Good startegy!

[frigid pollen]

Hmmm, Primed Smite Grineer would cover for the Desterza's major short comings, good idea, too. Thanks

[scarlet mason]

If you were to use faction damage mod than it would have to go instead of bersercer fury. And arcane strike on warframe to keep the attack speed. But it would be sth you don't want from this weapone. Reliance on warframe arcanes right?

[frigid pollen]

Yeahhh. I'm prolly just gonna keep the changes you suggested tbh, it works just fine as is

[scarlet mason]

Sure. Gl out there. But don't underestimate faction dmg mods. For full prime mod its basically +150% dmamage increase to basic and dot dmg.

Or sth like that heh

[fierce lark]

it calculates once on raw dmg, twice on status procs and 3 times on forced status extra hit buffs or influence procs

55%, 140%, 270% or smth

[summer moon]

There is only one problem...
You need to change them. So I prefer builds without them, cuz even without them there is enough damage to deal with 9999

[velvet pulsar]

So imagine if yareli gets to use her primary and melee despite riding Merulina as it is intended.

Imagine your Diriga being able to fully armor strip enemies quickly and its verglas prime getting +400% multiplicative damage...

[woven drift]

Which vauban augments are the best to grab? It's been a long while since I played the normal vauban and just got vauban prime so just wondering cause of his rework what do I work towards for him

[velvet pulsar]

Tesla Bank

[midnight horizon]

Tesla bank and that one Aug for his 4 (found it useful till it doesn't really matter but it's good to have

[coral crest]

Tesla Bank is damage spreading that scales with enemy hp. Very useful

The photon repeater is more for memes with spammable photon strike. It's efficient but also a bit janky and loses his most comfortable Helminth slot (if you care about that)

Enduring Bastille is hit and miss. If you use Bastille more than Vortex it's definitely worth using with very high range, now that there's no enemy cap

[brisk estuary]

What stats should I build on Yareli?

I’m thinking Duration and Range

[harsh temple]

I have a question to theory craft. I main revenant and I use him to use thralls. Since I like minionmancy (don't really use them for mesmer shield/tank. Not particularly interested in that side of them)

I have a few mods for augment but would there be a way to increase the effectiveness of thralls?

I think I did change it slightly but this is the main build. I know the arcane that increases the effectiveness of minions doesn't work on rev so I put the two arcanes I have on now.

I tried pumping duration to keep the thralls as long as possible so they can keep infecting other thralls. (Apologies to whoever wants to try help me and if I am being dumb 😅 )

[late hemlock]

Unless you purposefully want to just ignore mesmer skin existing not sure why you opt into augur mods

[barren birch]

anyone have any changes they'd reccomend on my Nezha?

[barren birch]

I haven't done shards yet cuz I have none but, I'm also making temple to replace pilfer with pyrotechnics

[harsh temple]

Would the augur mods help? I didn't go all into the augur mods because I don't think range affects the thralls?

I mostly play by starting the infection of thralls and then watch them all duke it out and pick of whoever is left. Usually my thralls which are easy to dispatch.

I'm not sure is strength affects them or if there is anything else that affects them

I mostly built as much duration to maximise on the time they are under control, since the longer they are under control the more they can infect

[spiral chasm]

i think the cap is 15 thralls or smth no?

[fierce lark]

7

there is no way to increase said cap and their damage doesn't scale with anything

[stone folio]

is it just me or does chromas vex armor not get any more buffs if i gain more ability strength after i casted it?

[fierce lark]

but the little explosion they do when they die scales with str

[stone folio]

like i need it to run out for any increase in strength to apply

[fierce lark]

thats how most abilities work, strength is snapshotted at the time of casting

[spiral chasm]

if u want max duration i think arcane concentration gives more after 1st cast

[harsh temple]

Revenants thralls can infect other enemies and make them thralls. I've had maps of thralls because of that

[stone folio]

yeah but it also does nothing if i recast vex armor while its still active, is that normal?

[woven drift]

And what's the best shards to put on?

[coral crest]

Shards are always build dependent, but you can't go wrong with 1 or 2 yellow tau for cast speed

[fierce lark]

you're recasting it with higher strength and then doing something to stack the buff after, and nothing is happening?

[stone folio]

yeah like if i recast it after maxing for example molt augment i dont get the buffs if my vex armor is still going since before i maxed molt augment

[harsh temple]

So strength and arcane concentration?

[fierce lark]

probably because you're already at max stacks of the previous buff and it can't be stacked anymore, it needs to run out

[stone folio]

wait so i can recast and get the buffs if i haven't already maxed the buffs from vex armor already, is that right?

[scarlet willow]

is this build good, i am achieving very high damage with these but i find it kinda lacking againts boss mobs that limits slash/heat/tox procs so tragedy's damage is low, is there a way to make dante more effective?

[craggy niche]

can i have help with some quick maffs

i'm stacking DR on jade just to try it

and i don't know the formulas to figure this out

i have two boreal's mods

aviator

and jade's 50 percent innate dr while in glory

what is the end dr

i know stacking dr is bad i'm just tryna see

[fierce lark]

stacking dr is good

stacking dr is how you make it actually do something

damage reduction is useless until you can actually reduce enough of the damage to be able to survive

[urban hazel]

Enduring Bastille lets you have a Vortex that would last for as long as you want, it's good for Mobile Defense, Excavations, Interceptions, pretty much any mission that requires you to sit on one spot of the map and wait for the timer to be finished.

[craggy niche]

until they nerf catas bug dr will always bee the less desireable option for most frames

at least for super high end stuff. dr is fine >2000 or maybe even up to 4000 but after a bit you just lose the war of attrition

[fierce lark]

well "stacking dr is bad" implies that having dr without stacking it is better, and it's infinitely worse

[craggy niche]

i wouldn't comprehend it that way personally but everyone's different

[fierce lark]

shieldgating is never required outside of lcap and it's only better because it's perma scaling and low investment

[craggy niche]

tldr; it works better

[barren birch]

would I be better doing overextended instead of stretch here?

like I know it drops my strength a bit from 4.3 to 3.3 on div ret, but I also gain 6m

[urban hazel]

try using cascadia flare

[fierce lark]

i can take mesa with adaptation archon vit into ETA and have no trouble surviving

whereas shieldgating on mesa is miserable because you have to constantly re-enter peacemaker and never actually shoot anything

for longer than like 0.5s at a time

[craggy niche]

that is a drastically specific scenario. either way i'm not trying to argue semantics here i'm looking to see if someone knows the formula for dr stack and would care to share. thank you for your "help"

[fierce lark]

i mean i told you stacking it is good

different forms of DR stack multiplicatively off of each other, if baruuk has 3+4 active + stacked adaptation, his shield is effectively taking 99.7% less damage

[craggy niche]

can i have help with some quick maffs
i'm stacking DR on jade just to try it
and i don't know the formulas to figure this out
i have two boreal's mods
aviator
and jade's 50 percent innate dr while in glory
what is the end dr
(sorry for reeepost mods just looking for help and my op got buried)

[barren birch]

I haven't used Dante personally so take my low knowledge answer with a mega grain of salt, but transient fortitude could add a little extra damage at the cost of some range and duration since you have augur reach and stretch.

[mighty flare]

this is a tad disingenuous as shieldgating is (hopefully) not the only method of surviving on those sorts of builds
you would be running including stuff like muzzle flash, or gating with her 1 instead, etc

or like running vazarin

[barren birch]

alright I'm asking my question again. Anything I could do to improve this? I'm thinking maybe overextended instead of stretch? it costs me some damage but adds 6m

[fierce lark]

i had plenty of time to experience the misery of gating with both 4 and 1 before i switched

did not have vaz sling

having to leave exalted wep to press survivability buttons was enough for me to try something else

[craggy niche]

i like cyte and ivara for super long endurance runs. just slap rolling guard on and call it a day

[scarlet willow]

Thanks for the answer

[barren birch]

no promises it's a good one but it's something

[potent orchid]

does it make any difference if i put a Topaz Shard on my Hildryn, because of the Furax mod??

[novel bear]

Are you killing things with the furax?

[near vortex]

why archon vitality

[barren birch]

Double apply heat for divine

[near vortex]

just put the three range mods in the bag bro

[near vortex]

you don't even need that many heat procs

[novel bear]

What are you applying heat procs with?

[near vortex]

everything is dead regardless

[novel bear]

Usually better to use a weapon or a subsume

[barren birch]

Gonna be pyro, for now it’s cedo and glaive

Just waiting for temple to finish crafting

Meant to reply to you die, sorry over

[novel bear]

I would go overextended then

[barren birch]

Instead of stretch?

[novel bear]

Yes

[barren birch]

Aight makes sense, my assumption was that if it does less damage it doesn’t kill, applies more stacks, and while the x4 is a x3, they actually might survive pyro and can then spread those stacks further

[near vortex]

if its pyro add vigswap

[barren birch]

Vigswap?

[novel bear]

Vigorous swap

[novel bear]

Adds universal weapon damage

[near vortex]

works on pyro

[novel bear]

So 2x damage for pyrotechnics

[barren birch]

Oh it’s a weapon cuz of Lizzie?

[near vortex]

no its just a weapon for some reason

[novel bear]

It’s a weapon because some abilities are weapons

Wiki has a list

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Universal_Weapon_Bonuses

[barren birch]

Weird but ok

Vigswap over what? Flow?

[near vortex]

what are your shards rn

[barren birch]

None I need to farm them still

[novel bear]

Intensify maybe

[near vortex]

when you get some shards, 2 purples can replace equilibrium

[barren birch]

Ahh, where the hell do I farm shards?

[novel bear]

Archimidea

[near vortex]

EDA ETA archon hunt netracells

bird 3

[barren birch]

Ahh I got some groups to level then

Aura I’m gonna swap as soon as this stupid specter drops it

[novel bear]

You can get away with vigorous swap over intensify until you get shards

It’s a bigger damage buff

[barren birch]

Well I need vigorous AND pyro before I do that

Temple is still crafting ;-;

Aight so arb farm, level my animals, do my archons, and hope this nightfall drops the thing

[hard hull]

Hey, does anyone know what mods are available for Ember Prime?

[barren birch]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Category:Ember_Mods

[barren birch]

there ya go

[hard hull]

Thanks ❤️

[hollow plover]

guys is there a legit dot build? im relatively new and experimenting nd dot seems like a fun build

[barren birch]

As in damage over time?

[hollow plover]

yes

status effects

all the elements wreaking havoc

[barren birch]

I mean there’s a lot of stuff that builds into DOT

[hollow plover]

melting from the inside kinda thing

[barren birch]

Dots usually aren’t the main source of damage from what I’ve seen tho, they just augment it

[wild rune]

Phantasma and Phage are examples of weapons whose main sources of damage are absurd proc numbers

[late hemlock]

Plenty out there, status is pretty good

Almost every melee out there is using influence

[night laurel]

before incarnon and jade shadows Hate and Nataruk was all about stacking slash lol

[late hemlock]

Well almost every weapon pre jade shadows went slash

[night laurel]

fair

[near vortex]

furis

[night laurel]

furis

[oblique sparrow]

What builds do yall have for bows? Idk what mods would make a good build😭

[hollow plover]

okay let the status be quo for now, i got titania and i want to build her, i dont get her kit unfortunately

currently what i got on

[hard hull]

50k

👁👄👁

[lean tendon]

You don't really need to build Diwata since you'll just kill everything with Dex Pixia. You also won't use any Primary, Secondary and Melee weapons so just put anything there but I recommend building your Grimoire for Strength Snapshotting. I just use my Panzer Vulpaphyla for the Companion but pretty much any companion mod that has no conditionals or passive will work.

If you have Primed Heated Charge, use that instead of the normal one

You don't really need the Suppress Exilus Mod so you can skip that

[hollow plover]

ik its low im kinda new

[lean tendon]

Subsume = Xata's Whisper over 3 (Lantern)

[hard hull]

Same

[hollow plover]

started aboit 2 weeks ago and just hit mr 12

[hard hull]

Me is like 20 days in think in start play

[hollow plover]

need to build xaku

[lean tendon]

yeah it's one of the best subsumes available so I suggest getting Xaku for subsume

[hollow plover]

oh i need to forma the aura?

[lean tendon]

yeah for more capacity slots

but I would recommend using Omni Forma in that slot

[hollow plover]

hmmm

also is it worth investing in her/what are the advantages?

she is my second prime after sevagoth

[versed harbor]

shes worth investing in, basically the fastest frame in the game and she fits anywhere

the only problem imo is shes kinda reliant on having specific arcanes like arcane pistoleer

[lean tendon]

Advantages:
Speedrun god
High survivability
High damage (easily melts level cap)
Great at defense missions (use a separate build that does not remove Lantern)

Disadvantages:
Cannot interact with stuff while in razorwing (you either get out of razorwing or use operator)
Cannot kill Arbi Drones (need to get out of razorwing and use normal weapons)

[lean tendon]

Her important arcanes are ezpz to grind so it's no problem at all. Arcane Pistoleer is just from Arbitrations Vendor in any relay, Molt Augmented is from Cavalero in Zariman, and Secondary Enervate is just from Eleanor in Hollvania. All three arcanes are ezpz grinds.

[hollow plover]

i dont have that razorwing blitz

rest are all fine for now

[hollow plover]

oh yea the reason i got her was for farming caches

[lean tendon]

It's mandatory

New Loka or Red Veil R5

[hollow plover]

i have bad standing

i got only cephalon and hexus both r4

[lean tendon]

if you don't have either at R5, trade your R5 syndicate mods to others

if you don't have any R5 syndicates at all, then you just need to buy xd

[final wasp]

Is mele influence good on volt beacuse volt has shock trooper? And if thats the case cant other mele frames take his shock trooper ability?

[lean tendon]

yes he is one of the best abusers of Melee Influence

but there's really no point sacrificing a mod slot + subsume slot when you can just put an Electricity mod in your melee

[hollow plover]

i guess i will grind out red veil soon

[lean tendon]

which one is your pledged syndicate?

[hollow plover]

after i max the current 2

hexus and steel meridian

i do both

damn nvm someone traded me maxed one for 8 plats

[lean tendon]

pledge to Suda and then Steel Meridian after Suda and Hexis goes to R5

that's a fair trade

cheaper than wf market

[hollow plover]

good enough until i level up more

and craft an omni forma

[lean tendon]

Archon Continuity is a must as well since it will be used as a synergy for the Dex Pixia build

you don't really need to Omni Forma the Aura slot if you don't plan on changing the build

like I won't be removing Brief Respite there so I just use a normal one instead of omni which costs 4 normal ones + nitain

[hollow plover]

yes but im yet to get archon continuity

[lean tendon]

You'll get there eventually

will take 3 weeks minimum though assuming you don't have Kahl's missions unlock

even more if you don't plan on clearing Veilbreaker quest anytime soon

[hollow plover]

i am gonna start new war today

so how does here rotation go/gameplay go? use 4 adn then pew pew? i need info on the ability part

[lean tendon]

once you are finished with that + Veilbreaker you will unlock Kahl's missions but you won't be able to buy the Archon mods immediately. You need to do 3 missions and you only get to rank up his syndicate by 1 per week so total of 3 weeks.

[lean tendon]

Pretty much yeah

[hollow plover]

should i buy one for 20 platss?

[lean tendon]

Use Razorwing
Use skill 1, skill 2 dust, and Xata's Whisper
check your Razorwing Blitz duration from time to time and refresh it by casting any skill (I use skill 1 or Xata's Whisper

[lean tendon]

it's fine to buy it imo since once you unlocked Kahl's Missions, you can just get the platinum back by selling Archon mods yourself

if you are gonna buy I do sell Archon mods xd

but if you are a patient mf then I guess just hold

[hollow plover]

can i get discount?

[lean tendon]

that's already discounted

[hollow plover]

how much cost?

[lean tendon]

its usually 30p but ppl just sell it for 20p for fast selling like me

[hollow plover]

hmmm i will wait until later, i will contact if i need

[lean tendon]

np

Personally I would just wait since even without it you should be fine for base star chart

on steel path that's where the corrosive effect works wonders since now enemies are tankier

[hollow plover]

yea it works good and the speed holy shit

[pallid quiver]

4, hold 1 every once in a while, use 2’s dust if u feel like it.

Beyond that nyoooom

[lean tendon]

or just invert the controls you don't need to hold 1

[hollow plover]

son im crine

[lean tendon]

damn that's crazy luck

[hollow plover]

im faster but im more into the walls

[lean tendon]

gz

[lean tendon]

biggest tip is that you don't need to use your sprint button

[hollow plover]

wall lover like mortis from brawl stars

https://tenor.com/view/mortis-brawl-stars-rzm64-gif-1594707631400552092

[lean tendon]

Normal walk in Razorwing is fast already. Use sprint if you are just traveling in a straight line or there are not that much stuff that can block you.

[eternal prism]

Volt can block u

[hollow plover]

sorry?

[lean tendon]

nah even with Volt I don't have a hard time maneuvering

its just that Titania players love the sprint button way too much

you outrun Wukong Volt Gauss even with just walking at max Razorwing Blitz stacks

[pallid quiver]

Titanias when they encounter a volt with max str and 5 tau str shards

[lean tendon]

You can snapshot 800% str and you will still be fine (x2 str in fissure to reach). Or use Hobbled Dragon Key if you really can't control it.

[pallid quiver]

Blitz scales with str right

[eternal prism]

Yes

[lean tendon]

yes

[pallid quiver]

Does Titania work with archon vitality? Or is it just continuity

[lean tendon]

I think it works on any exalted modded with heat

but its not really that good

[eternal prism]

Secret blast titania

[lean tendon]

I mean blast is the standard Titania build now

[eternal prism]

Not exactly. There's a slightly different one, but I won't show it🥺

[lean tendon]

it is the standard

other builds is just... alternative

[eternal prism]

Not like blast cuz there are some minor problems with demolishers

[lean tendon]

just don't be Knightmare Frame who says Archon Continuity is "worse damage" and puts corrosive in Dex Pixia

[lean tendon]

don't have problems nuking them

[eternal prism]

Corrosion goes well with blast. If we are not talking about naked corrosion

Armor strip is a useful thing for blast

[lean tendon]

it goes well but you Archon Continuity lets you run Magnetic+Blast+Toxin instead of just Blast+Corrosive

Titania ofc

[eternal prism]

Don't all titanias use xeta?

[lean tendon]

yes

we get our Corrosive from Archon Continuity

if you run Blast+Corrosive then you won't be able to put Magnetic Might since you are gonna run Convulsion/Jolt but since you are gonna run Archon Continuity anyways you can drop Convulsion/Jolt and put Magnetic Might

you also get crit dmg from Magnetic Might and Magnetic status effect is great

[eternal prism]

I think titania should get dual toxocysts instead of her weapon

[lean tendon]

xd

[faint idol]

Which one is better?

[hollow plover]

its been 35 minutes and i still havent found a 3rd cache

[green ocean]

should I add narrow minded and umbral intensify or narrow minded and precision intensify on this Mesa build?

[fair swan]

Does anyone have a uriel nuke build???

[hollow scarab]

are there any good smg style weapons? like the baza but better for later/endgame sp?

[gilded spoke]

:3

May I share something I’m extremely proud of?

[hollow scarab]

why not

[gilded spoke]

:3

This is my full chroma build for end game (swap the deadheads for Bulwark and Flare cause I was experimenting at the time of taking these)

I run quick thinking but put archon flow there as QT can be tricky for people who don’t know how to run this build

Which is also why I took these :3

Also taking screenshots helps reduce text walling 😅 read if you wish

I won’t make you

[nova swift]

Thats actually a great question, there arent a lot of "smg" style weapons in the game. Even stuff like the burston feels more like a rifle even though its incarnon is very smg like

mostly uzi style secondaries

laetum incarnon is kind of smg-like

[eternal prism]

Smg....maybe dual toxocysts but I don't know how to interpret what you want for a warframe weapon.

I have only met diplos tenet but they are terrible without a platform

[nova swift]

dual coda torxica are pretty decent, probably the best from the 3 (diplos, stubbas and torxica)

aksomati and akstilleto's fell off by powercreep too :c

[eternal prism]

Diplos is unfortunately super terrible

I thought they would at least be not bad

Because I was looking for an alternative to dual toxocysts for oraxia

[hollow scarab]

there any like primaries? or is it all kinda just pistols? cuz i really wanna make the baza prime good for at least mid level sp and just cannot seem to do it

[nova swift]

as in extremly high RoF primary in a small package?

[eternal prism]

Honestly, I haven't seen a single smg based on it. It's mostly assault rifles and sniper rifles

[nova swift]

prisma grakata with a riven, has some decent unique mods for ammo economy but im not sure if it would outperform baza

[hollow scarab]

yeah basically

[eternal prism]

Try looking at something in the Incarnon list. They're generally the strongest for endgame right now

Maybe you'll like something

[hollow scarab]

yeah i should.

i also should actually build my baza lmao. i have nada on it rn cuz i scrapped my old build and im aware it can just not very well

anyone got a baza prime build i can steal?

[eternal prism]

Can you show the basic stats?I don't really remember if they are similar to burston's stats.

[hollow scarab]

this is what i managed to slap on so far

they really should give this thing an incarnon if you ask me

[eternal prism]

Oh low ststus chance

[hollow scarab]

ye

[eternal prism]

I need to get to pc. I had a similar weapon in arsenal

[hollow scarab]

also ignore the bane mod. im aware its not maxed i was just testing shit out

i might just slap eclipse on oraxia over like her 1 or smth (i like her 2-4) to just brute force the damage

or nourish

[abstract axle]

oraxia can't inject eclipse except over her 4

[undone dust]

it's only half terrible since it has a use for PT

[hollow scarab]

rip

[abstract axle]

diplos is fine, it also has multiplicative gunCo*, so you can kill with it

[hollow scarab]

i use those on my cullervo or styanax

its p nice

[nova swift]

I did have a grakata build with a riven hitting about 40 rounds per second with 100% ammo eff as long as you hit headshots but it needs like 7-8 forma

so maybe not worth investing in for a slightly better baza

[hollow scarab]

i wish the lock on did better damage tbh tho. cuz its cool and not a super common trait for a wepon (ik it doesnt matter that much but its cool)

[nova swift]

Yea the diplos lock on is kinda painful in how it functions, would have been more fun as full auto with lockon where you can shoot while getting new locks

[eternal prism]

You could use something similar, but I'm not a fan of flat damage weapons; they mostly require a platform u can swap arcane for headshots and hammer shot

[nova swift]

I never realised the baza has damage dropoff, no wonder its so painful to use

[hollow scarab]

yeah true, but im lowkey turning oraxia into a summoner/weapons platform

[hollow scarab]

indeed

i think my favorite primary ive been using so far tho has been the reconifex. once you get a couple kills it turns into a beast with 200 flame rounds and a reload cancel lol

[eternal prism]

Honestly, her 3rd skill is terrible. It's not worth trying to do anything with it

[hollow scarab]

isnt it gaurenteed tox procs?

[nova swift]

her 3 doesnt scale with enemy level sadly, only base level of the map when you start it

[eternal prism]

only if u in ult

and it not scale with enemy lvl

[hollow scarab]

oh i was spending all this time thinking it was basically forced toxin procs cuz im never not in my 4

[eternal prism]

u can use it if u like oraxia

[hollow scarab]

ill just slap nourish over that or smth i guess. i usually prefer more fun abilities but on oraxia the rest of her kit is fun

havent put on helminth yet cuz im in the sim

(i spend a lot of time latched to walls and stuff

for the invis boost

[eternal prism]

It's better to give a weapon damage than to give oraxia more strength

cuz toxin also directly depends on the weapon's damage

which is generally completely resolved by arachne

[hollow scarab]

oh its not for her toxin damage lol. its for her web damage vulnerability

i do winder, without her 3 will you still get scuttlers?

[eternal prism]

It's not a very convenient skill because even 100 vulnerability is more than enough.

or how it name in eng...

[eternal prism]

nope

[hollow scarab]

damn

[eternal prism]

If you're aiming for level cap, the skill is useless