builds-discussion

[coral crest]

Yeah

[midnight horizon]

Veryyyy

[solemn plover]

I need arcane steadfast

[midnight horizon]

For?

[coral crest]

Technically when you throw the ball that marks a target for the strike, it's coded as a weapon and hence benefits from hotshot

[solemn plover]

Vauban nuke build

[coral crest]

Why would you need steadfast?

Wouldn't you use the augment that straight up makes the ability free??

[midnight horizon]

You really don't need it

You just need Molt Augment and Molt Efficiency/Arcane Concentration

[solemn plover]

This build I'm doing

[coral crest]

Still

[midnight horizon]

Yeah........

[coral crest]

Shit wrong reply

[midnight horizon]

All goods

[solemn plover]

Is this a good vauban nuke build to make

[coral crest]

You don't really need blind rage, replace it and steadfast with something else

Then you're golden

[solemn plover]

Replace with what

[midnight horizon]

Thats highly invested

You won't get that nuke

And Vauban is a spammy guy so you need efficiency, 100% literally

[coral crest]

If you didn't know, Vauban has a unique trait that makes all his ability damage scale with enemy level

[midnight horizon]

10 levels, it scales per 10 (Ifnim sure)

[quiet laurel]

no energy economy on a caster build

[solemn plover]

What should I change then

[coral crest]

Give yourself equilibrium

[midnight horizon]

Remove Blind rage and go Equilibrium

[coral crest]

Well they got brightbonnet...

[midnight horizon]

Again... Vauban is a spammy frame

[coral crest]

[quiet laurel]

ight nvm then

[solemn plover]

Okie is the steadfast ok or should I change that too

[quiet laurel]

I never see bb outside of arbis

[coral crest]

Steadfast doesn't really give you much

[midnight horizon]

Yes, change it... As I said he needs Duration

Go Molt Efficiency/Arcane Concentration

[coral crest]

Your main dmg source here is pretty much free

Arcane Concentration, the one that gives duration

[midnight horizon]

Tbh the insta blast proc of his 3 is very much the goated one hahahahah

[solemn plover]

How much is arcane concentration maxxed

[midnight horizon]

Very useful

[midnight horizon]

Ehhhhh....... 65p? More or less

[green ocean]

What exilus is best for my temple build?

[coral crest]

Iike 60p on a good day. Free if you just do couple descendia runs

[solemn plover]

So arcane concentration instead of stead fast and equilibrium instead of blind rage then the build is golden?

[midnight horizon]

Just put whatever hahahahahaha

Cunning Drift or Power Drift is my personal go for that

Just for me

[midnight horizon]

Yes sir

[solemn plover]

I can't survive that runs

[coral crest]

Power drift for more power, cunning drift for better mobility and slightly better range

[green ocean]

yeah I was gonna go power drift but idk how much bigger my 2 gets from cunning

[midnight horizon]

You can... I solo with Vauban a couple of times

[coral crest]

Cunning is also good for the mobility boost it gives

[midnight horizon]

Just go whatever in those 2

[coral crest]

Imo that's more value than power in this context

[midnight horizon]

Oh that's nice

[solemn plover]

I just got his heirloom collection

[coral crest]

You have maxed hot shit and over 250% str

[midnight horizon]

Nice nice, me too

[coral crest]

Your Temple will shred either way

It was supposed to say hot shot...

[midnight horizon]

XDDDDDD remove that auto correct

You swear too much hahahahah

[coral crest]

No I'm swearing exactly as much as needed for my personality

[solemn plover]

Noice I not gonna use the jacket because without it he looks like a martial arts fighter or a monk

[midnight horizon]

Anyways just do that builds and your good to go tenno

[solemn plover]

Okie thank u alot

[green ocean]

oh and should I run this blast toxin build or a pure heat one? since blast overrides the heat damage and the heat bonus from my 3 is infused I don't proc hot shot with Lizzie which is why I'm considering swapping out Rime Rounds and Infected Clip for like Serration and Vital Sense or something, but technically I can stack up hot shot with my 1 and 2 really easily

[midnight horizon]

Yo Nuclear

Do you have a reference build for Voruna?

[coral crest]

Yeah caster

Bit expensive though, I use 2 tau purple instead of equilibrium

[midnight horizon]

Str and dura? With bit of range?

[coral crest]

Lol no

Max range

Let me take a screenshot

[midnight horizon]

Right she is a status nuke right?

[coral crest]

Oh I can't check

Shit, mobile companion doesn't let you check different builds

And my phone can't run mobile port

[midnight horizon]

Swipe right

[coral crest]

And I'm working rn

[midnight horizon]

I'm sure it'll do

Like config?

[coral crest]

I dunno if you can check a non equipped preset

Only the one you are currently using

I'll use the secret method

GeForce Now

[coral crest]

She is a damage AND status ability nuke with perma invisibility and status immunity

And her dmg buff is flat so she can platform any weapon in the exact same build

[midnight horizon]

Woah Woah Woah

Perma invis????

[mighty flare]

infusing lizzie with heat from 3 does trigger hot shot, 2 doesnt trigger hot shot since it only deal heat damage without a proc
i would reccomend heat

[coral crest]

Her 1 gives her invisibility

[midnight horizon]

I thought that's the mobile one

[coral crest]

Since you're using her abilities to nuke, it isn't broken

[green ocean]

uhm, I'm pretty (100%) sure that with my current build my hotshot keeps ticking down unless I use my 1

[mighty flare]

i opened simu & quick mission and both showed lizzie stacking hotshot with just 3 infusion

[green ocean]

yeah but did you use the same build? aka one without base heat dmg?

[mighty flare]

yes

[green ocean]

huh, that's weird, not only did it not work for me yesterday but a youtube video said the same thing for their build that also used a similar build but with gas

I'll try it again

[midnight horizon]

Huh...... HUHHHHHH

[coral crest]

Ppl often build her as a platform but

She has enough ability dmg to assault level cap

[midnight horizon]

How many ab damage tho

[cold burrow]

Anyone got a spellbind chroma build worth sharing?

[coral crest]

About 15mil slash + dot and statuses she spreads

[midnight horizon]

Damnnnn... In just how many ab strength stat? 250? Or just less

[coral crest]

Less, much less

[midnight horizon]

How less are we talking about.....

[coral crest]

Lemme deal with some stuff and I'll send you a full build

Itn at work, I'm employed

[midnight horizon]

Yeah yeah sure

No fret bro

[midnight horizon]

Don't worry

[nova swift]

Yea her two most popular builds are the melee voruna and the full caster voruna. The caster variant is really strong and can go infinitely with ulfrun's endurance

really safe too with brief respite + ability spam + invisibility

[coral crest]

You can have primed flow but it'll be 3 forma instead of 2

I cba to level her up again

Shards...

I forgot shards

2 are tau equilibrium purple, 2 cast speed I think

And one duration

[midnight horizon]

Is stretch a must?

[coral crest]

Yes, max range for max nuke power

Archon is procced by electricity on status gambling

Impetus is almost always stacked to full because of that as well

Her 3 keeps spamming orbs from kills in your 4

Shards supply the energy

[midnight horizon]

Don't have purp yet

How high of Range are we talking here

And how spammy is she?

[coral crest]

Loop is to enable 3, go 4, mark enemies with 2 while 1 is active and charge at them in said 4

[coral crest]

Rather messy startup

Then you're just clicking 2 buttons and everything dies

2 -> right click to nuke area

I think it's like 25m

Even more if you mark enemies that are glowing

As long as you one-twoshot an enemy, you're never running out of 4 charges

Hold cast 2 is status immunity, so even that won't hurt you in invis

For an aura I use hound with summoners, of course

[midnight horizon]

Shit... Just 2?

[coral crest]

Wdym?

[midnight horizon]

I mean the range of her 2

Fhw 2 seems to be the "nuking"

[coral crest]

No-no

[midnight horizon]

Oh

Hmm Voruna is a bit complex it seems

[coral crest]

Let me make a write-up

[midnight horizon]

Aight

[quasi thunder]

Morning guys!

[midnight horizon]

Yo evening from the Philippines

[coral crest]

The Voruna "nuke"

Landmower starting phase
Step 1: get enough energy to fill yourself up

Step 2: Enable 3 and mark an enemy 2. (3 gives orbs on melee(red) and headshot(blue) kills. 2 marks enemies with random status effects that are then spread on enemy death. It is extended when you kill an enemy with enough status on them)

Step 3: Enable 1 and 4 (1 makes you go invisible, deal forced slash, +100% crit, and marks an enemy that takes more dmg and amplifies your normal nuke range. Mark is an augment btw. 4 puts you in a stance where you can't use your weapons, but gives you 4 charges to make a melee lunge which results in an aoe damage explosion. It's counted as a melee kill for 3)

[severe bough]

Voruna prime before styanax thank you

[coral crest]

Buildup phase
Step 1: Mark a glowing enemy with 2, use your 4's lunge to kill it while invisible from 1. (Enemy is dead, statuses are spread to enemies around. They're most likely heavily damaged but may also be dead. Orbs have dropped to refuel you, augment refilled the lunge charge)

Step 2: Build combo, repeat the process of marking and lunging. Refresh 1 when it runs out. The higher your combo is, the less important it is to pick the glowing enemy.(The more you kill with 4, the more combo counter it gets which severely improves the damage, it caps out at 10 and doesn't run out until you leave the ability)

Kill phase
Step 1: You are dealing 15mil damage in an area AND spread random statuses around while invisible. You are a god. Just keep marking literally any enemy with 2 and lunging at them

Step 2. Avoid Nullifiers

Step 3. Have a weapon to kill an acolyte. They take severely reduced damage from 4's lunge and it won't kill them

@midnight horizon

Realistically you don't even need a glowing enemy to start the engine, but don't go try and eat a tough target either

[severe bough]

Voruna nuke ?

With huras?

[wraith sinew]

how do i make my gauss build good enough for sp? rn im getting cooked

[last karma]

anyone got some spare despoil and shield of shadows mod? 🙏 for my nekros hehe

[midnight horizon]

No her 2 can mark enemies as what it says

[coral crest]

Lol you don't need a pet

[midnight horizon]

Wait So can Mecha Empowerment work?

[coral crest]

No

[severe bough]

Ik but makes it more funny

Melee weapons work aswell

[coral crest]

You don't need mecha, you ARE the mecha

[severe bough]

Harmony x Voruna knowers know

[midnight horizon]

Oh sheesh, I am a Kubrow at this point

[coral crest]

Just have a hound for extra priming and occasional guardian procs

[midnight horizon]

I have Nautilus for that hahahahah

[coral crest]

Since her 4 triggers melee form of 3, you get constant health orbs

So it means restorative bond is perma active

Can keep literally any pet alive

But sentinel is a good call probably

[severe bough]

Voruna highly underrated fr

[coral crest]

It took her a while

She got lots of quiet buffing

And it took two augments for the nuke to fully come online

[severe bough]

she has a low pick rate still sadly

Either people dont like to think a bit more or dont like her playstyle but shes really good also one of the standard frame where i say the design is actually good

Like follie looks like a bloob fish they werent cooking with that

At least shes op

[torn karma]

Which is the best primary for oneshoting without any charging whatsoever?

[midnight horizon]

Tbh I wanted to learn her aside because she is a hot Wolf mommy

[midnight horizon]

Wdym

[midnight horizon]

Oh like Sevagoth

[coral crest]

On top of all of this

When you go invisible, you get flat +100% crit and status chance

And your attacks force proc slash

[midnight horizon]

Ay yoooo

[coral crest]

Attacking in this form puts you out of invis

But if it kills, the buff stays for some time even without invis

[midnight horizon]

Oh sheesh

Alrigjt wolf mommy, she got me more interested

[coral crest]

Yeah she is both a nuke caster and an insane platform

[velvet pulsar]

She can enable slash on influence nukes

She can enable even 0% status chance melees to do influence nuke

And if u headshot kill enemies while her 3 is active, u get energy orb.

A melee killing an enemy but also hitting the head during the kill drops both orbs.

[midnight horizon]

Thing is, is she a melee platformer or she can be a weapon platformer (general I mean)

[velvet pulsar]

Her 1 doesn't affect non-melees though

[midnight horizon]

So I'mma use Xoris with this then

[velvet pulsar]

So I guess u can subsume evade over it to synergize it with her 3's headshot energy drop because people take less advantage of it

I wonder if Vulcan Blitz can force slash if her 1 is active.

[velvet pulsar]

@coral crest ?

[coral crest]

No idea I'm not a slam person

I'm afraid I'd hurt my toes

[velvet pulsar]

Vulcan Blitz ain't slam...

[coral crest]

Isnt it the kittag augment?

[velvet pulsar]

Yes

[coral crest]

Wait right

[velvet pulsar]

It procs on kill

[coral crest]

For some reason I remembered it as something slam related

Oh right, because it procs blast

[velvet pulsar]

I know why

Jat Kittag's slam has 100% base SC

[coral crest]

Either way, no idea if it works

Never used this thing

[velvet pulsar]

People also prefer to use spin-to-win instead of slam.

I don't think she can force slash on Vulcan Blitz because that'd require an extra hit ig

[dense holly]

Somebody rate my syam build i put together haphazardly

[velvet pulsar]

Her forced slash is probably like Valence Formation in terms of appreciation

[karmic badger]

Okay... Firstly, vitality and steel fiber isn't gonna help. Ditch em. You can replace em with Fast deflection and/or vigilante Vigor.

Secondly, you'll want corrupted mods, particularly the ones that can boost duration. The ideal stat spread is alot of duration, a bit of range, and neutral strength.

Your survival strategy will be using kinetic plating and build up redline, then you heat sunder 2-3 times before putting a cold sunder to make everything explode for like 100k damage

[green gyro]

do you have arcane aegis

[last karma]

is this good enough for nekros? I just wanna farm resources

[opaque wave]

noob question who should i build first mesa prime or protea prime? i got 2 argon crystal left

[green gyro]

you have despoil and equilibrium so it's fine

[green gyro]

the correct answer is get more crystals and make both, but mesa is a bit more useful in earlygame

[last karma]

thank you

[green gyro]

for stuff like granum void

[violet loom]

build who ever you want first then farm argon crystal in void, or do any void mission and farm argon crystals and build both

[torn karma]

I mean even burston is good after some headshot kills so in a boss fight without many enemy or speed running the damage building takes time i want something that goes in and kills !

[opaque wave]

thankss

[nova swift]

I assume this would be funny on tenet exec shockwaves too, considering they have 0% status but really good damage

[velvet pulsar]

Caustacyst pools too

I wonder if okina spectral daggers can break her invisibility

[wraith sinew]

nah

[wraith sinew]

what are corrupted mods?

[green gyro]

how do you have r5 energise and grace but not corrupted mods or aegis?

[wraith sinew]

from blood of pertia

or whatever it was called

[green gyro]

that also had aegis

[wraith sinew]

i was told just to get those two

[green gyro]

bruh

whoever told you that is very ignorant

grace is literally never used

[wraith sinew]

huh

[green gyro]

aegis/fury/precision/velocity are all really good

and used way more than even energise

[wraith sinew]

energize doing pretty well for me

gonna start farming cetus for vigilante vigor

[green gyro]

it's pretty niche nowadays

there are better sources of energy sustain, efficiency and free casts

[midnight horizon]

Ah Incarnon charge

Torid.........

Like.... It'll be fully charged after 2 or 3 shots

[torn karma]

No not that the damage

[midnight horizon]

Huh?

[warped eagle]

Which one here

[midnight horizon]

Hydroud

Hydroid

[torn karma]

To do high damage from burston even after incarnon is charged and good to go arcane is required and that needs killing enemy

[warped eagle]

Ty

[midnight horizon]

Do head shots

Burston is an Acuity gun

Meaning you need to make Constant headshots

[midnight horizon]

Do deadhead

Primary Deadhead

[torn karma]

This is going away from topic

I want a gun that is high damage from get go for speed boss hunting in SP

[torn karma]

Understand?

[midnight horizon]

Ah..... Well.... Boss killers am I understanding correctly?

[green gyro]

which bosses?

[midnight horizon]

help I'm bad at reading

[green gyro]

boar is best for thing like lephantis

[velvet pulsar]

Crux?

Unless you're not asking for burston but any

[midnight horizon]

He wants a Gun tho

[green gyro]

dual tox is still good stackless if you can hit a head

[velvet pulsar]

Felarx for non-headshots
Toxocyst for headshots

That way u have best of both worlds

And u only need to incarnon charge the secondary

[karmic badger]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Corrupted_Mods
this

[velvet pulsar]

Double image posting

[wraith sinew]

k

how do i get that

it says orokin vault

[vagrant whale]

Is this roll good?

[green gyro]

not really, but it's usable

slot it over shocking touch and you get a bit of cc for free

[steady grotto]

I mean, it's over 50% crit and stacking with other crit mods.

[wide verge]

which bet is better nautilus prime or panzer vulpha

[steady grotto]

Depends on what you need.

[velvet pulsar]

CC doesn't affect the clouds BTW

Only the electric will.

[wide verge]

For general

[torn karma]

Yes boss killers

[velvet pulsar]

Felarx & Toxocyst

[last karma]

can nekros' summon also loot?

[midnight horizon]

AST got it down

I would recommend Toxo too

[steady grotto]

I personally prefer Panzer due to Resource/Money Doubling via https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Loyal_Retriever

[wide verge]

k

[solid delta]

hmmm those are incarnons so you cant use them from the get go

you need to build the charges up

[steady grotto]

Also you can make a 4x4 Panzer for some huge resists.

[midnight horizon]

What are none Incarnon for boss killers?

[solid delta]

snipers

[midnight horizon]

Any specifics?

[steady grotto]

Personally also enjoying Valkyr Claws, as they have some huge damage potential (especially if you subsume roar over para and just build for Duration and Power)...

[solid delta]

stahlta

[torn karma]

I am also asking non incarnon

[midnight horizon]

Yes... See what Hoang says?

[midnight horizon]

Do Snipers

Specifics, Stahlta

[velvet pulsar]

Felarx shouldn't charge incarnon

Incarnoff performs better

[velvet pulsar]

Exergis

...if u fix the ammo issue

Otherwise kuva hek

There are several high damage adversary weapons

[steady grotto]

I mean, even incarnoff you have the incarnon evo buffs.

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah though the term "charging incarnon" heavily implies transformation.

[earnest canopy]

Does anyone have good Dagath build to recomend?

[deep grotto]

#1469407612272513309

[astral tinsel]

Exergis loses a lot of power without gsavvy stacks though

[velvet pulsar]

Struggle against status immune bosses, not status capped bosses nonetheless

There are very less status immune bosses, even the most difficult ones are status capped rather than status immune

[astral tinsel]

Also bosses without a constant supply of adds

[velvet pulsar]

?

adds?

[undone dust]

enemies

[velvet pulsar]

Right galvanized mods stacking

That's an issue on all weapons, unless u don't rely on those for a weapon

Or if using something like dual toxocyst where shooting the boss still accidentally kills adds so it stacks galv mods anyway

[uneven halo]

is this build good for splinter storm?

[gray quarry]

I’d scrap fast deflection for catalyzing shields and redirection for more str

[uneven halo]

74 max shield?!!

[velvet pulsar]

Shield Hate gara

[gray quarry]

With the augur set, you get shields back quickly because of how often you’re using your 1

[velvet pulsar]

Honestly I panic press 4 if I'm in trouble

[gray quarry]

Ooo actually swap redirection with augur secrets, gives more of a return on energy

Idk if brief respite would be better than steel charge

[velvet pulsar]

It wouldn't

Cata shields only needs 1 augur mod

[gray quarry]

Alr

[uneven halo]

kinda risky but ok

[gray quarry]

You’re spam casting your 1, cast speed shards would help with the casting animation of her 1 so you can spam it faster to make sure your shields stay up

[uneven halo]

but im casting 1 only many times on the start of the mission and after that every 30 seconds or something

[velvet pulsar]

I use pillage, but also have Well of Life gara

[gray quarry]

Did you subsume off garas whiplash?

[uneven halo]

nokko mushromms

[velvet pulsar]

3

Mushroom on 3

[uneven halo]

yeah

[gray quarry]

Then why the 1 casts

[uneven halo]

huh?

[velvet pulsar]

"Why not use 1 much?"

[gray quarry]

I think I got confused

[uneven halo]

same

[velvet pulsar]

I'm not surprisingly

[uneven halo]

i thought its not that much nessesary to spam every 1 second for the whole mission

[solid delta]

[gray quarry]

When enemies are on screen, cast whipclaw. No more enemies

[velvet pulsar]

You're still confused

[gray quarry]

Nooooooo

[velvet pulsar]

Whipclaw is Khora's ability

[uneven halo]

yeah

[velvet pulsar]

Sleep.

[uneven halo]

my brain rotated upside down rn

[gray quarry]

I meant shattered lash

Look I haven’t played warframe in a while, that’s my excuse

[uneven halo]

but for killing on gara im using 2 more for this than 1

1 for damage stacking

[velvet pulsar]

Oh BTW
are u using gara's 1 wave or puncture?

[uneven halo]

puncture why ask?

[velvet pulsar]

The slash version or the other version?

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah now I see the problem

[gray quarry]

Slash is way better

It does a wave across your screen, hitting enemies easier

[velvet pulsar]

Slash sweep is a giant melee with 30m range that hits enemies through walls

[uneven halo]

but still gives 1 combo

[velvet pulsar]

It's a nuke.

"delete that direction"

[gray quarry]

If you’re using it as your main weapon, combo isn’t a problem

[uneven halo]

im not using this as main weapon for main weapons im using 2 ability

[gray quarry]

<@&778745217037238293>

[velvet pulsar]

<@&778745217037238293>

[uneven halo]

<@&778745217037238293>

[velvet pulsar]

That's overkill

BTW I know juice will show up any moment

Start mentioning bugs u wanna get patched

[gray quarry]

I forgot what her abilities are and can’t open the companion app

[velvet pulsar]

For Styanax Prime
https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1495711-styanaxs-axios-javelineers-dont-proc-camisado/

[gray quarry]

I want this bug to get patched

[uneven halo]

i said splinter storm here not shattered lash btw

[velvet pulsar]

Not exactly a nuke unless u use the augment for her 1

[uneven halo]

oh

[velvet pulsar]

Her 1st ability augment spreads her 2 to enemies if u break ur 4 with it

[uneven halo]

i know

[velvet pulsar]

Gara has 2 nukes

[gray quarry]

Gara needs 5

She should be able to drop a tactical nuke

[steady grotto]

What are good nukes to farm ESO which aren't always hit by Simaris forcing 'Try a different Ability'? So far I use Revenant, as seemingly Channeled Abilities circumvent Simaris being hypocritical, but who else is recommended?

[uneven halo]

then you guys wants to tell me that i should spam with 1 instead of stacking damage for 2?

[velvet pulsar]

Gara's 1

[quartz bridge]

Hey, its me again.

[gray quarry]

Yeah, long as you cast her 4 too it’ll stay up

[uneven halo]

oh ok

[velvet pulsar]

Mirage's 2nd ability augment

[rocky mason]

Gara's 1 slash has no line of sight check, just put a lot of range and kill everything

[quartz bridge]

So I have a build question, does pistoleer actually work for the akarius like I keep hearing? Or is it just a fabricated lie?

[uneven halo]

but you cant aim down and up with 1

[velvet pulsar]

Only if u get a headshot kill with it

[rocky mason]

Mirage with second ability augment and all the archon mods is what I use (and many others, if you see a mirage getting 1k kills each round that's what they're doing)

[gray quarry]

How often are you aiming up and down to hit something tho

[uneven halo]

50%

[velvet pulsar]

Except archon intensify, unless you're using a subsume to proc it

[quartz bridge]

Yeah thats what im wondering, you cant get headshots, but im being told the explosion somehow triggers it

[rocky mason]

Just kill them anyway

[gray quarry]

Nothing a bullet jump or falling can’t solve

[uneven halo]

but we are talking about this bro

[rocky mason]

Yeah, it's mostly archon stretch, vitality (can be unranked) and continuity

[velvet pulsar]

Doesn't the homing have a specific range lock?

It needs to travel a specific range before trigger homing and AoE?

[quartz bridge]

I feel like this is a lie but I wouldn't be suprised if it actually worked

[uneven halo]

how about the stairs for the example?

[steady grotto]

And I can do so without Simaris stopping the fun every 5 seconds?

[quartz bridge]

Unlike acceltra, the akarius doesnt have that feature

[velvet pulsar]

Oh

[gray quarry]

Normal jump

[uneven halo]

right

[velvet pulsar]

Then I guess the best u can do is to aim a bit upwards the enemy

[rocky mason]

He complains based on the number the skill is, 4th and 3rd have much less uses allowed than 2nd and 1st

[uneven halo]

mb

[gray quarry]

Or stand at the top and melee down the stairs

[rocky mason]

Everything around you that might be blocking a path will die so either the enemy or you can move

[velvet pulsar]

Coz I can fully confirm, I've seen a gauss in arbi spamming Akairus and he was definitely using Pistoleer @quartz bridge

[quartz bridge]

So then that must mean its true then, cause I cant get headshots no matter what I do

[velvet pulsar]

He was very consistent with it too, dealing way more kills

[uneven halo]

ok thx guys for help

[undone dust]

you just have to aim slightly higher than chest level

[quartz bridge]

Ty all

[velvet pulsar]

It has a slight angle

[uneven halo]

Ok

[waxen spire]

Is someone main Wisp Prime and can share his build for endgame please?

[frigid pollen]

I have 5 crimson archon shards, three of which are tauforged but the build works for me in SP

[rocky mason]

Wait is that a wisp 4 build?

[frigid pollen]

Yup

[rocky mason]

Looks funny

To subsume over the 2

[waxen spire]

Ty bro

[frigid pollen]

I mean, yeah, I do miss it but that also isn't my main build

[frigid pollen]

Watch the clip btw, those units are explicitly resistant to fire, are SP and level like 125 of memory serves(cuz mastery limit and whatnot) and well, you'll see

[waxen spire]

I saw, ty bro

[frigid pollen]

Nw

Anywho, uhh, any thoughts on how I could improve this? I have 15 forma sitting in reserve so idm quickly putting an extra one or two in if necessary

[frigid pollen]

Also as an addon, use reservoires(for massive health boost) which will give you more Ability strength, use it twice then get more energy. use madurai for more AS then roar, then 3, then 4 twice and bobs ur uncle

[wind hound]

What melee is this for?

[last karma]

is hammer shot worth it to buy in market? for my nataruk

[solid delta]

for nataruk? hell no

nataruk will fall off hard

[wise kettle]

Mystery weapon

[frigid pollen]

Sorry The Destreza prime

[astral tinsel]

When

[astral tinsel]

But I wouldn't buy it either, Nataruk has way too few slots

[solid delta]

ETA/EDA

[frigid pollen]

I'll prolly max out the Melee doughty tomorrow at the latest so that wont be an issue

[weak sonnet]

tying to raise duration without lowering strength to much any suggestions

[fierce lark]

remove fleeting expertise

4 drain is based on both duration and efficiency so fleeting does literally nothing for it

[weak sonnet]

do you think that narrow mind might be good if i don't use my 1 that much

[fierce lark]

idk i play 280 range valk

deleting range makes both the 1 and the 3 unusable so up to you

[frigid pollen]

atm it kinda sucks, ig, I'll have to test it against a number of units but it isn't doing the numbers I was hoping for

[queen sandal]

Looking for any end game excalibur mains to help me with something ❤️

I need it for a future guide I’m working on

[steady grotto]

Hmm, Roar (unlike Eclipse) did increase Ability Damage (I know, not Ability Strength) as well, right?

[late hemlock]

Super jump guide?

[queen sandal]

??

[late hemlock]

Excals best ability

[fierce lark]

yes

it's a faction damage multiplier that also applies to abilities

[late hemlock]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Super_Jump

[queen sandal]

No

Excalibur is quite simple but im unsure how he’s supposed to be built and I wanna make a beginner Excalibur guide but with stages of more end game’ish builds they can work towards

[wise kettle]

What can I do to make my harrow build stronger here? Not captured but secondary deadhead is maxed on dual toxos, and the unranked arcane on harrow is a placeholder atm. I'm struggling in solo sp runs pretty early on and struggle to shred through groups

Edit: I also have a scourge prime in this build but its basically only for alt fire

[fierce lark]

the beginner build is keeping triumbral and then slapping on some stats, a new player who just finished sacrifice isn't gonna understand why chromatic blade is good or have arcanes anyway

throw on streamline flow continuity equi and then whatever feels fresh in the last slot

[queen sandal]

Ah so I was on the right track, thanks for the info.

[fierce lark]

i guess stretch since you can still reasonably use radial howl as a ccing/survivability tool

[queen sandal]

What would you recommend for a bit more survivability redirection?

[fierce lark]

the endgame build really depends on if you want to shieldgate or use persistence for survivability

[queen sandal]

I see I’ll make sure to cover both then

If you have any builds you’d like to share DM me

[fierce lark]

nothing tbh, triumbral should take care of the base starchart survivability

but nobody should invest the ridiculous amount of endo and credits into maxing them unless they absolutely know what they're doing and want to carry triumbral persistence to the grave

so i'd advise someone newer with umbra to get it them to rank 6 or maybe 8 max and leave at least fiber & vitality there forever

[queen sandal]

Oki thanks I like your pfp btw

[fierce lark]

i don't really have anything to share since im currently on break and was in the midst of building my umbra so it looks like a complete mess, since i've already forma'd off 1 umbra polarity on both the frame and blade lol

[stoic quarry]

yikes

[fierce lark]

there's 2 pretty clear ways to do scaling survivability though, you either keep the umbra polarities and tank with persistence (requires life strike/healing return on blade or a healing subsume like gloom)

or you can delete most of the umbra polarities and shieldgate, which is much better imo because slash dash already gives him immunity during the animation anyway

and is cheap & spammable

and kills things

he has a pseudo exalted built in with his actual exalted

[fresh dagger]

i copied this build off a youtuber, but unfortunately i really dont deal any damage in steelpath. I have roar helminthed
Can someone send me a nuke build to copy, or edit this better?

[stoic quarry]

what

[fierce lark]

excal's 1 does damage using exalted blade's modded stats

[stoic quarry]

ion even wanna KNOW who gave you that setup

Titania lookin ahh mod setup

[fresh dagger]

No way, it is bad?

[stoic quarry]

kinda ngl

[fresh dagger]

Bro i keep wastin so much plat on these builds

They aint even easy to get🥀

[stoic quarry]

i wouldn't use this to be honest, i don't like gauss in the first place but he IS pretty good.

[fresh dagger]

Bro the build does no damage😂😂

[stoic quarry]

this looks like a relic cracking setup anyway. Not an SP one

[fierce lark]

if you're doing no damage you're likely playing incorrectly

[fresh dagger]

The general question is

[fierce lark]

im assuming you're trying to nuke with sunder?

[fresh dagger]

Yea

[wise kettle]

I mean it does have no strenggth

[fresh dagger]

I combine hot and cold for blast

[fierce lark]

sunder nuke doesn't need strength, im running 40% and it still nukes levelcap

[fierce lark]

you do heat sunders, 1-3 depending on the enemy level usually, and you detonate it with a cold sunder

[fresh dagger]

Bro copying from yt is getting annoying😂

[fierce lark]

2 heats into cold should kill any steel path enemy in the game

[fresh dagger]

How can i tell what to do myself

[fierce lark]

you also need to be IN redline for your sunders to do what they're supposed to

[stoic quarry]

thank god i never fell down that rabbit hole 🙏

[fresh dagger]

How tho, i tried my own recipes whatsoever and that didnt go well either

[fierce lark]

when you're within redline's boosted battery, your sunders proc double and blast sunder armor strips, thats where gauss gets his crazy damage from

[fresh dagger]

So with redline active

Sunder starts armor stripping

[fierce lark]

as long as you're above 80% battery, which is where you're capped to when redline is off

[fresh dagger]

And u want me to play by applying 2 heat

And then detonate with 1 cold?

[fierce lark]

your primary goal should be activating and staying in redline until it charges to 100%

[fresh dagger]

Okay

[fierce lark]

you keep it at the battery level with mach rush (which you subsumed), cold sunders or meleeing

[fresh dagger]

Dw ill use another config

[fierce lark]

it's not the config, it's the way you're playing

[fresh dagger]

Ooo melee increases redline charge??

Well i can learn to play in new ways

[fierce lark]

alr

[fresh dagger]

From what i understood tho

My STR can be lowered. And i def want high duration and efficiency?

Range js a lil bit increase too

Is that right?

[fierce lark]

the reason low str works is because heat procs scale exponentially and redline heat sunders with archon vitality stack an extremely high amount of heat dot in only a couple casts

[queen sandal]

All good the guide is coming later cause I have other ones I have to do too

[fresh dagger]

this is probably worse right 😂

[gleaming oasis]

So I got some weapons that I'm looking to get build for. Starting with the kuva bramma. What's the stats to invest in?

[fierce lark]

i mean other than me going super heavy on duration (which is not necessary on sunder) this looks pretty similar to mine

[wise kettle]

-accuracy and blast as dmg i think i dont really use bramma tho

[fresh dagger]

damnn

wb the arcanes

[fierce lark]

280 range 40 str and i put sprint boost/rush in the aura/exilus

concentration & i have molt augmented because i dont own r5 ice storm

[gleaming oasis]

I use uce storm and aegis

[undone dust]

bro isnt a grinder

[fierce lark]

you can use aegis for immortality against non-toxin dmg but it makes 2 redundant

[undone dust]

screw sunder gauss!! sunder frost method!!

[last karma]

can someone help me build my xoris? im mr 12

[fresh dagger]

ima do storm and concentration

[fierce lark]

general use bramma or cyte bramma?

and/or do you plan on using energized munitions with it

[undone dust]

energized chudnitions

@fierce lark how much worse is subsume sunder compared to base
i can't remember (i have an idea im pondering)

[fierce lark]

pretty bad, it doesn't get redline bonuses

[undone dust]

im gonna chudmaxx anyway because avalanche on frost can also just proc blast sunder

[gleaming oasis]

general use, dont have cyte or subsume for him. probably not energized munitions unless nessecary

[fierce lark]

kbramma has a max ammo of 6 at base, and an ammo restore of 1, so you'll probably spend a noticeable amount of time not shooting it even with ammo max/mutation mods

[undone dust]

god forbid a man has whimsy

[fierce lark]

turns out they didn't want to give everyone gauss' busted ass 40m levelcap nuke who could've guessed

[gleaming oasis]

so is it even worth making a build then?

[fierce lark]

the usual 4 mods at the top (serration/heavy caliber over apt), viral, hunter munitions & elementalist/bane

assuming you have toxin progenitor you get an extra mod slot to throw primed firestorm if you want/have it or vile accel

[gleaming oasis]

so little me either didn't have one or didn't know because its currently impact

[fierce lark]

probably didn't know

[gleaming oasis]

I do known I can change it

so I'll build assuming tox prog

[fierce lark]

i accidentally made my first weapon the correct element because i only played saryn and my first wep was ogris 💀

[golden plank]

I just got a phage riven. anyone knows if this weapon is useful?

maybe it's like a discount phantasma?

[gleaming oasis]

so what would the other 4 mods be? any galv?

[fierce lark]

serration chamber crit delay vital sense

i say "the usual 4" because those 4 mods (or some variation) are mandatory on almost every build, dmg ms cc cd

[gleaming oasis]

serration is already on it

bane maybe?

[fierce lark]

you don't technically need base dmg if you have an arcane like merciless or deadhead, but serration covers gaps where stacks fall off (which happens a lot more with merciless, deadhead is easier to maintain if the weapon can hs)

[gleaming oasis]

I have both of those maxed

[fierce lark]

after those first 4 mods, cold mod for viral (primed cryo/rime rounds), hunter munitions, and then any two of bane, elementalist, vile acceleration or primed firestorm

the best combination there being bane + vile accel prob

[gleaming oasis]

so this is assuming tox prog

[novel bear]

Fast deflection over rolling guard, aegis and concentration for arcanes, and roar subsumed over 2

[gleaming oasis]

adding deadhead to current image what should be adjusted?

[mighty flare]

bramma likes fire storm, you'd replace serration/vile acceleration

[gleaming oasis]

what would you say is the better switchout?

[mighty flare]

i like swapping vile cuz you can get external fire rate

[gleaming oasis]

fair enough

[mighty flare]

keeping serration helps stackless merciless

[gleaming oasis]

so should deadhead be merciless if serration is on?

[mighty flare]

wouldnt use deadhead ever on bramma, only mercs

[fierce lark]

firestorm can get a little annoying if you don't have psf/cautious shot

or og

[mighty flare]

i simply wouldnt use bramma if you dont have either
firestorm doesnt suddenly cause the issue

[gleaming oasis]

the Tenno does not concern themselves with self-knockback

[old marsh]

can anyone share their Epitaph build for general DPS (not priming)

[fierce lark]

if the issue still exists without firestorm then fair enough, i only tried it twice on cyte in alchemy

i did equip wyrm for the second run and it made a pretty noticeable difference

[wise kettle]

Any suggestions?

[hollow plover]

hear me out, dot build

[wise kettle]

On harrow??

[silk lynx]

Guys is this Red enough ?

[fierce lark]

convulsion instead of scorch on gun, drop steel fiber for literally anything on frame

[wild rune]

I can drop steel fiber for vigor?

[gleaming oasis]

what would a kuva zarr build look like. I assume semi rifle cannonade and primary merciless

[wise kettle]

Gotcha. Ty!

[green gyro]

not cannonade

[gleaming oasis]

this is the first draft

[green gyro]

not thermite rounds

replace cannonade with fire rate

also zarr is really mid unless you're playing cyte

in which case it's really good but you use a different build

[gleaming oasis]

so swapping cannonade for speed trigger what would thermite be replaced with?

[green gyro]

amalgam serration is what I like

if you're gonna use it not on cyte then you need reload mods and vig supplies

[tired ember]

which one would you says is the best ?

[astral tinsel]

Zarr is just Bramma with slightly better ammo economy, fight me

[fierce lark]

left if you’re playing saryn vulcan blitz

[astral tinsel]

and without Resupply you might as well go cannonade unless you're fine using other weapons most of the time

[fierce lark]

right otherwise prob

[tired ember]

thanks

[gleaming oasis]

would galv scope combo with the Braton incaarnon's 2nd upgrade option?

Perk 2: Prelude of Might
With Critical Chance Below 50%: Increase Critical Damage Multiplier by +3.4x (Braton) / +3.3x (MK1) / +3x (Prime) / +3 (Vandal).

would the mod have to not be active our bvecasue its a temp buff does the incarnon buff only count base cc?

[hollow elm]

What wep work better with zephyr. Tenet plasmor or cedo? Got them for eta

[solid delta]

I only use the zarrr for my railjack crewmate

and semi-rifle cannonade is a hell no

[primal bane]

Idk if this is the right channel for this but I bought 2 mods and they aren’t showing up in my arsenal at all, and everytime I restart my game my mods get upgraded and move back to the way they were before I restarted. Whats happening? Did I just waste 35 plat? TwT

[solid delta]

are you sure its for the right weapon?

[primal bane]

I bought energy siphon and cunning drift for my mag

[solid delta]

can you show me a screenshot of your mag mods?

[primal bane]

Wdym like all of them?

[hollow plover]

WOULD organ shatter or gladiator might be better?

[solid delta]

no, type in energy siphon in the search bar

and see it it shows up

you dont just LOSE a mod

[primal bane]

It’s the same with cunning drift

[solid delta]

man that is weird

[primal bane]

I spent 35 play I really hope I didn’t waste it😭

[hollow plover]

??

[nimble summit]

is this build good?

[thick bison]

Considering the 35% base crit chance, I think gladiator will be better if you keep fighting

[hollow elm]

Context matter but yeah id run that build. Obviously youd wanna swap fulmin for prime fulmin once u can

Id also rec akimbo slio shot once u can. Irs really fun with it

[nimble summit]

yh ofc its a build for afentis buff mirage gun buff with nourish plus reinfoced bond and tencious bond

and i think im running amalgam furax mod

for buff to secondary

[hollow elm]

Thats a lot of firerate

[nimble summit]

yes i like dmg

[gleaming oasis]

how do you tenet cycron?

[nimble summit]

im thinking about it but my surviveability is kinda dogshit on my mirage so fortifier is just nice to have and with afentis buff u have plenty of ammo so its fine imo

[hollow elm]

Idk where u plan on taking it but even without all that the buffs akarius slaps sp enemies. Personally id rather go into qol( reloadspeed, amuntion effeciency)

[hollow plover]

should i potato cedo?

[hollow elm]

Ic . I usally use the akarius with fortiefer on frames i level in sp cunjunvtion fissuers that lack survavibility and even with no external buffs it shreds the level 200 enemies.

[nimble summit]

thats what afentis buff is for🙃

[hollow elm]

If you find other ways of sruvavibility for mirage id rec akimbo again. Its just crazy fun

[nimble summit]

and i will prob make a new mirage build focused on more survival and slap on akimbo slip

[hollow elm]

Yeah makes sense perosnally i just dont like not beeing mobile

[nimble summit]

i ahve 3 parkour velocity shards so im plenty fast

mirage gun buff is so strong u dont need crimson shards so all my archon shards are just qol

[hollow elm]

Not that i mean having to stay inside afebtis bubble to get buffs instead of having those buffs with you uk

[nimble summit]

if u kill enemys and go out of it u get the buff for 40 sec

[hollow elm]

Relatable once you try yellow shards (parkour and casting) you get addicted x D

[nimble summit]

so u do ur clone eclipse nourish plus afentis and ur good

[hollow elm]

I did not know that nice. Anothet imer to track tho xd

[nimble summit]

well it has a 4 sec timer diff until my other buffs runs out so its not that bad on my build

but a build that has more duration im sure its kinda bad

to track

[hollow elm]

Its noticable thru the lack of buffs tho so ll br ok

[thick bison]

Hmmm, what Arcane should I use for Razorwing? Currently choosing between Cascadia Empowered, Secondary Deadhead and Secondary Merciless?

Oh, I should get Galvanized Diffusion first, though

[final wasp]

What is galvanized mods?

[thick bison]

Abitration rewards (hard endless missions) whch gain extra power on kills https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Galvanized_Mods

[final wasp]

Thank you

[hollow plover]

what focus school for sevanuke?

[final wasp]

And is volt good with mele influense beacuse of his 1 and the mod on it?

[thick bison]

So while normal Barrel Diffusion gives +120% multishot, Galvanized Diffusion starts at +110% and riles up to +230%

[hollow elm]

I use arcane pistoleer on my titania and enervate on the pixias.

[thick bison]

Yeah, if I had enervate, I would totally use it

Didn't unlock 1999 yet

[final wasp]

Wait you have galvanized mods before 1999 😱

[thick bison]

Yeah?

[final wasp]

I dont 😢

[thick bison]

MR14

[final wasp]

Wow

Im 7

[thick bison]

I'm returning player, so I had some workable tools - I just take my time going through story

[hollow elm]

Nice. The storys really good. a ton of things are locked behind areas locked behind quests tho

[thick bison]

Yeah, I see that

I was playing back when... Cetus was new?

So getting into ALL this is very overwhelming and I have to slowly go through it

[gleaming oasis]

how do I tenet cycron?

[fierce lark]

same way you kuva nukor, with crit mod instead of enervate

[gleaming oasis]

what arcane is used then?

[abstract axle]

flare probably

[fierce lark]

flare or deadhead or outburst

outburst if you wanna play with it otherwise deadhead if no heat flare if heat

cycron is innate heat iirc so i think it’s forced

[gleaming oasis]

using the same build as my nukor this is what I have

[astral tinsel]

slot some crit mods

[gleaming oasis]

over which one seeker I presume?

[astral tinsel]

and sure shot

[gleaming oasis]

chance, damage or both?

[astral tinsel]

both

chance goes primed pistol gambit > creeping bullseye >> regular pistol gambit,
damage is primed target cracker >> target cracker

[gleaming oasis]

slotted in bullseye for the naramon and ptc over sure shot

Is modding specifically for weak point damage good on vesper since it's the gimmick (yes i know it's not the best weapon) using pistol acuity, Leaded Gas, and Cascadia Accuracy?

[fierce lark]

i think mag might is better than target cracker

60>40% cd but you gain mag element

probably marginal though

and only relevant if galv shot

[astral tinsel]

probably also better against overguard

[fierce lark]

in the case i didn’t have ptc id probably do heat progenitor (since it’s innate heat anyways) and use mag might + merciless gunfight for cd

[gleaming vapor]

ima just drop this here

[late hemlock]

Never seen anyone more broke

[gleaming vapor]

not the point

contaigon mesa 🔛 🔝

[solemn knoll]

wouldnt contaigon mirage be btter

[gleaming vapor]

well yeah

the buld is basically budget mirage

[quiet laurel]

I have more orokin cells than you have credits I think 🙏

[gleaming vapor]

i spent them all on upgrading mods

[solemn knoll]

also slide build

[gleaming vapor]

this is the current build, but im still fine tuning it

prolly gonna put omamori on 4

also im making a whole separate mesa for this so i can optimize shards

[solemn knoll]

not mesa, zaw

[gleaming vapor]

slot ppp over riven and shocking over smite grineer

[thorn oak]

is it worth multishot on the braton incarnon

or should i just use acuity

[late hemlock]

Are you hitting consistent enough headshots to warrant acuity?

[thorn oak]

I usually try to aim higher

[late hemlock]

Moreso than the math its about how much uptime you think is even realistic for you

Because not hitting headshots on acuity builds leads to absolutely terrible dropoff

[thorn oak]

the thing is tho how much does multishot actually do anything because the bratons multishot does not scale

like its 1 so it doesnt give a huge bonus

[mighty flare]

Didn’t wanna use WA?

[gleaming vapor]

no

i dont have kullervo

also pretty sure itd do too much damage to proc influence

[fathom sky]

It affects the direct hit and you can afford to ignore the AoE in this case. If you land heads most of the time, you swap for Acuity

[thorn oak]

explain the direct hit thing, like it does that much extra damage or what

say i have 1.5 multishot would it be hitting for 50% extra

[midnight horizon]

No it has a chance to shoot 2 bullets in one of the bullet spray

[thorn oak]

oh alright that makes more sense

[midnight horizon]

2 bullets with the same damage

[midnight horizon]

It's Multishot

Multi

Shot

[thorn oak]

Yea thats what I thought but he said it affects the direct hit so that kinda confused me

But i get what he means now

[midnight horizon]

I don't really what that means because I don't really understand English hahahaha

It's my second language

[thorn oak]

I think he means it affects it in terms of the second hit being there or not

[fathom sky]

The bullets get affected but not the explosions from them.

[fierce lark]

the base multishot is completely irrelevant to the effect it has on your bullet damage, doesn't matter if it's 1 or 100

+100% more bullets is still 100% more damage and 100% more chance to apply statuses

whether it's 1 extra or 100 extra

[thorn oak]

Yea that makes sense

i understand then so its worth multishot for comfortability since i dont gotta worry about hitting headshots

[thorn oak]

does crux ammo efficiency work on incarnon mode

[quiet laurel]

no

[sonic folio]

It's never lupus

Nothing ammo related works with incarnon

[craggy niche]

i need someone super knowledgable about off meta stuff to help me

so i'm looking at jade and in >5000 stuff she's fine just running fast deflection and her shield song so far in my experience with her

but she falls off after that hard

could i use the boreal's contempt and boreal's hatrad mod coupled with aviator to get a 80 percent dr or am i mathing wrong

[late hemlock]

I doubt DR is saving you in over 5000 lv content tbf

[sonic folio]

You got this game wrong buddy

[late hemlock]

Also no its multiplicative with aviator

Not additive

[sonic folio]

Best defence is to nuke everything so they can't touch you

[quiet laurel]

you got the game wrong too then

[craggy niche]

yeah jade just kinda does that by default bruh

you still catch shots lol

[quiet laurel]

but yeah you can forget DR at that level

passive or active gate

[sonic folio]

Idk if we play the same game

I have archon vigor for double heat proc

[quiet laurel]

archon vigor 🎋

[sonic folio]

If i start to take damage i just switch to heal regen

[fierce lark]

archon vitality you mean

[sonic folio]

Solved

[quiet laurel]

heal regen 🎋

what are we even saying

[sonic folio]

Idk what that is called in english

[late hemlock]

They are not asking for base sp level content

[sonic folio]

I don't play in english

[craggy niche]

that does virtually nothing for you lol

[late hemlock]

Anyways dont try to stack DR, not additive and not worth it

[craggy niche]

that's for status effects, something you shouldn't be applying alot in jade's glory

[sonic folio]

Sure buddy

[fierce lark]

fast deflection + vigilante vigor + catalyzing shields + arcane aegis + camp spirit of resilience

and you're almost unkillable to anything but toxin

[quiet laurel]

is the last thing jades shield recharge buff

[fierce lark]

yeah

[quiet laurel]

cause if so you already are at the shield recharge cap with the 2 shield recharge mods so no point really

you can off set one of the shield recharge mods if you want

[craggy niche]

delay probably

[quiet laurel]

but just go for str or dmg buff

[craggy niche]

doesn't really need either at all with evervate

str is good to have to a certain degree

[thorn oak]

my get kills with incarnon challenge is not countinggggg

its at 98 and wont go up

[sonic folio]

You chuds don't know insane level cap immortal afk xaku tech

Keep stacking those defences like good boys

[midnight horizon]

Camp spirit? That's the first I heard that mod.....

Or it's not a mod isn't it

[quiet laurel]

jade 2

[midnight horizon]

How?

[craggy niche]

says the guy that runs archon vitality on jade albeit it does literally nothing for any of her kit

[midnight horizon]

Oh nvm it's not a Mod hahahaha

[quiet laurel]

I lied btw you get 0.2s extra by using jade 2 shield recharge buff but is it really worth it

[craggy niche]

it scales with strength

[quiet laurel]

you cant get lower than 0.8 delay cap

and with both shield recharge mods you get to 1s

[craggy niche]

ohhh ok mb

i'm not a big fan of math i just like to throw shit at the problem till it works

[sonic folio]

Come back to me when you understand what her exalted does

[midnight horizon]

Same same

I ask my friends when it comes to math and shit in this game

[craggy niche]

it uhhh

[midnight horizon]

😭

[craggy niche]

does not apply status effect unless you're using her 1 which is big dumb lol

her 3 does but like

2 times of shit is still shit

[sonic folio]

That mod also includes procs from exalted weapons my newbie friend

[craggy niche]

you shouldn't be proccing anything lmao

they die in one shot

[sonic folio]

Apperently they not cuz ur crying about survival

[craggy niche]

i wasn't crying but okay broham

[sonic folio]

Sure do what you do im pretty comfy with my red crit jade

[quiet laurel]

bros just yapping random shi

[craggy niche]

yeah he is lol

[quiet laurel]

trying to be tuff

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1300881191087509548/1467256516099707064/aiwj5r.gif

[quiet laurel]

my kpmdemon jade is coming through guys watch out

[craggy niche]

that's like literally nothing for jade wtf

i see no ms there

[quiet laurel]

I pressed my 4 5 times and now have 5000% crit chance

look guys is this tuff

[old marsh]

pressing Tab every 3 seconds to check

[craggy niche]

are you highkey using a square monitor my guy

like one of those office tech ones

[quiet laurel]

and then you disconnect to the host and host has 80% FPS drops cause you pressed tab

[sonic folio]

Im employed drako

[quiet laurel]

say bye to spawns

[sonic folio]

Good to see you here still yapping

[quiet laurel]

🗣️

[sonic folio]

It's a laptop

[craggy niche]

Forbidden brokium tech

i like it

[quiet laurel]

is baro this or next weekend

[craggy niche]

next

imma die, i hope it's got something good this week

[quiet laurel]

farming endo to invest into some good primed mods

farmed 400k endo in 2 days

[craggy niche]

jebus slide some of that my way

[sonic folio]

I just buy my mods maxed from peasants

[quiet laurel]

need it to level mods to max fr

[craggy niche]

brokium at it's finest

[sonic folio]

+10% bullshittery

[thorn oak]

i want to use blast electric on my braton.....

even tho i think its probably not as good as viral heat

[true talon]

hello can gauss use seismic bond companion mod?

[solid delta]

yes

[craggy niche]

i'm pretty sure we've moved past viral heat to corrosive heat and priming with follower for viral for generalistic sake

[quiet laurel]

viral heat still the goat

[mighty flare]

Primed cold exists, viral/heat is good

[thorn oak]

i think it depends on the weapon more

i run corrosive and cold on my kuva kohm and thats just what felt the best with crux

but i can name a handful of weapons id never use that on

[midnight horizon]

While you go Viral Heat

I'm loving Me some Corrosive Cold

[modern vale]

👍

[midnight horizon]

Incarnoff Torid with Corrosive Cold is very good

But then I saw saw Nataruk Blast

[modern vale]

Wait wdym, slide that

Now

I'm the biggest Nataruk glazer
I need to know more about it

[thorn oak]

just put blast on it

[modern vale]

Bah
Tell me what happens already
Is it meh, worse or better than Viral? I can't understand how blast would go well since.... It's blast

[thorn oak]

blast is literally a good status

youre making the nataruk have more aoe

[modern vale]

🤔
I'll test in Simulacrum

[thorn oak]

this is currently what mine has and i havent used the nataruk in idk how long i cant tell you

but now there is longbow sharpshot so u can make it better

actually idk if longbow sharpshot is better

i think if u just keep deadhead stacked its better

but there is probably a better setup out there

my riven is just crit chance, fire rate, and damage

[fierce lark]

longbow sharpshot is best if you have it and are landing consistent headshots, which is very easy to do because natty charged shots have a ridiculous hitbox

[thorn oak]

its only 300% tho deadshot goes higher

deadhead

[fierce lark]

deadhead is additive with base damage (which you're getting from riven), sharpshot is multiplicative

[thorn oak]

oh alright

wish they would clarify that

[fierce lark]

deadhead may be better for general use as sharpshot falls off significantly if you ever miss heads

hammer shot vs elementalist is probably semantics

[thorn oak]

I kinda figured there was something with sharpshot cuz everybody was using it

[fierce lark]

gaptitude also multiplies with other base dmg sources

because projectile

[thorn oak]

i really just have hammer shot on mainly bc i have it and dont use it on anything else

so idk elementalist may be better or worse, but i like the crit damage

and status is kinda just there

could run that one mod that gives crit damage while aiming but i never aim

[fierce lark]

elementalist is probably better purely because you're near guaranteed at least 1 blast proc every hit, and again it's a separate multiplier on everything where hammer shot is just more crit dmg on top of vital sense and tenacious bond if you have that

primed bane would be better than both since it affects both base dmg and status dmg and it double dips the status proc

but ppl dont like using banes and they're not applicable to several factions

[thorn oak]

yea I wish the would change something about the bane mods

cuz i cant bother changing them depending on what mission i play

and a lot of my builds i have so much going on i dont even wanna run a bane mods

[fierce lark]

the only thing they could do is add more, like techrot/scaldra and now possibly anarch banes

but i doubt they will

[thorn oak]

if they really wanted to just make everything extremely op they could make a bane slot

[fierce lark]

ive seen ppl theorize about making grineer banes work on scaldra and infested banes work on techrot

[thorn oak]

maybe make a bane slot and scale down the damage multiplier a lot and then maybe id use it

[fierce lark]

i would say i think DE are done with banes, but it wasn't that long ago a new primed murmur mod was dropped iirc

[fathom sky]

At some point there'd just be too many factions to worry about that even buying config slots for Plat wouldn't be enough.

In reality, though, the only content that is strong enough to matter nowadays is Corrupted, Murmur, and Scaldra/Techrot.

Corrupted you can just build like you would against Grineer

[fierce lark]

i dont even remember if murmur banes work on necramechs lol

[fierce lark]

you always want a matching bane if you're doing levelcap disruption, but that's a niche scenario obviously

[fathom sky]

They do

[fathom sky]

Niche enough that if you're doing it you'd suck it up anyway because you're hunkered down for a couple hours, yeah

[peak stirrup]

I just got Uriel and I'm wondering: how do I build him? My only "build" experience so far is slapping my Hildryn with all the shields I could find

[craggy niche]

corro covers so many factions is my only thing

[fierce lark]

do you want to focus more on the weapon buff from his 3 or wiping entire tilesets with every cast of his 4?

[craggy niche]

i just finally harvested enough nitnain extact to get my vauban prime done, what are some fun things to do with him

[fathom sky]

The armor strip from Heat makes Viral MUCH stronger than Corrosive in comparison.

[peak stirrup]

4 until I get a good enough weapon for 3

[craggy niche]

don't most good frames not have strip?

[fathom sky]

Not what I mean. Because Heat already armor strips, the extra strip Corro would do on top is not as much of a damage increase than the easy double damage Viral procs gets you for the relevant, tanky enemies.

[fierce lark]

get every range mod you can, max range is 280 including exilus

get archon vitality and intensify if you can, have a decent amount of strength (mostly just make sure it's above 100%, blind rage alone can accomplish this) and a high amount of duration, preferably with arcane concentration

[craggy niche]

yeah but viral can just be procced with follower and corrosive has better faction modifiers

[fathom sky]

A handful of frames subsume Pillage anyway for shield restore and get armor strip as a bonus.

Depends on if you wanna rely on them to target the guys you want to kill. I wouldn't

[craggy niche]

you ever used a tazicor?

everything procced bro

[fathom sky]

No actually. Just stuck to Hound for the longest time

[craggy niche]

yeah tazi is craaazy work if you wanna lean on sentinel for priming

[fathom sky]

Played when Sentinels were just completely useless and just didn't build any.

[fierce lark]

tazicor forces me to not have tenacious bond +crit or resourceful retriever or a cheat death with its own cheat death

sounds lame

i use wyrm when im using guns that have multi co scaling, thats about it

[fathom sky]

Ah yeah Tenacious Bond would be a big wound.

[craggy niche]

idk i don't put much stock in the animals those shits die too much

[fierce lark]

panzer is immortal so that helps

[graceful plank]

Any suggestions?

[fathom sky]

The "new" bond mods make reviving them so much easier

[fierce lark]

at least the build im running uses both martyr symbiosis and tek assault

so even if it kills itself saving you, there's a chance for it to not actually die

and then you can either use momentous to revive it faster, or panzer devolution and not have to revive it at all because it turns into a sentinel that continues sporing things with viral and maintains your bond buffs

[craggy niche]

ya'll got any vauban builds i should check out?

[eternal prism]

shield gate and not kill strength

[fathom sky]

https://overframe.gg/build/273105/

[midnight horizon]

Vauban with Nataruk Blast is a GG

[midnight horizon]

5 forma???? I only have 2 forma for Vauban and it works nice and tight

[craggy niche]

primed and umbral mods be like that tho

[midnight horizon]

Yeah I have some if you needed one

[fathom sky]

This game isn't that hard and you can afford to skimp out on some stuff

[craggy niche]

sick

like what is the workflow of him

is he D? i never see him in defenses or anything

[midnight horizon]

Eh you don't need that much

I have an immortal build for Vauban but you need to be active

[midnight horizon]

Oh he is good at ANY mode except Spy

Give me a bit as I am at Mecha Centric on Bauban

[fierce lark]

what is D

[stiff sapphire]

Looking for a good primary weapon for oraxia

[midnight horizon]

Grading

He is trying to find what kind of rating Vauban js

[icy urchin]

are the red and orange secondary crit chance archon shards at all useful on yareli because i dont think ive seen a single guide actually go them over other options

[midnight horizon]

These builds give me advantage to ANYTHING in the game

He is my main so I use him a lot

Vauban is Semi Stationary... So he can be spammy while standing around a bit

The Mecha Centric is my go to bc I am Using a Mecha Build on Kubro

[gleaming oasis]

finally hit mr 17 and got some coda weapons I'm looking to mod. How would the Coda Hirudo be built, never modded fisticuff weapons before

[mighty flare]

Doesn’t really matter, viral heat is just way stronger elemental setup than corro heat

[midnight horizon]

Heat is partial armor strip
Viral is additional damage

Corro is pure armor strip (around 70%)

So viral heat goes on the top for that case

[fierce lark]

corrosive is 26% at 1 stack, 80% at 10 stacks, but it's multiplicative with other sources of strip like auras/heat/abilities and it doesn't take a primed mod like viral does

[steel swift]

Any1 able to help me go thru a handful of frames and put a bunch of builds together? Have lots of half built frames I’d like to finish up

[lean tendon]

Uh you can prob just send your builds here and ppl will tell what to improve but if its a lot of frames then prob just do 1 or 2

[steel swift]

I have like 8 I need to build

[lean tendon]

That's a lot

[steel swift]

Yeah.

[cold burrow]

anyone got a spellbind chroma build?

[brisk estuary]

Is the Bo Incarnon better on Base Bo or Bo Prime?

[cold burrow]

Prime

[night laurel]

base bo is for if you have a riven

way higher dispo iirc

[steel swift]

most have mediocre builds, would like to fix up some builds. lmk which you know how to build and ill send the build over:D

[brisk estuary]

Cool, reason I ask is I read the Wiki and it looks like base Bo would have a higher damage total with this perk

[brisk estuary]

Ah

[cold burrow]

I don't think its enough to offset the increase of everything else the prime offers

[midnight horizon]

They have the same dispo

[night laurel]

mb, ty