builds-discussion

[late hemlock]

doesnt it have a built in punch through evolution?

[velvet pulsar]

Incarnoff still benefits punch through

We have several such perks which only buff incarnoff, not incarnon

[coral crest]

I mostly use it for enemy bullet redirection

[fierce lark]

fake locked

[coral crest]

Though I'm really only running Miter nowadays

[fierce lark]

the non-radial part of the incarnon bullet still benefits

[summer dawn]

you should try coda synapse

[velvet pulsar]

If I wanted survivability from my primary, I'd have already built Soma incarnon

[coral crest]

Oh yeah

[velvet pulsar]

Undersat 🫡

[coral crest]

And a debilitate basmu

With a proper health tank and an augment, debilitate basmu does some horrible things

[velvet pulsar]

Nah I'd not use Basmu even for utility

[coral crest]

(I just use it as a primer for Lavos sometimes)

[velvet pulsar]

I was long convinced that I wouldn't bother playing basmu after I built Coda Hema with the augment.

[fierce lark]

it certainly sounds horrible

[coral crest]

Basmu has a boar beam with more chaining

I literally just mag dump alt fire for the heal to activate and then drop Catalyze

[velvet pulsar]

Feels bad that the only weapon in the game which deals True damage didn't get the sufficient chance to shine.

[coral crest]

I don't think we need that sort of thing

[chrome cedar]

Any recommendations to do the last toxocyst Incarnon challenge?

[coral crest]

Slippery slope, kinda

[coral crest]

Well of life

[chrome cedar]

What's that?

[velvet pulsar]

Plains of Eidolon

[coral crest]

Subsume

[velvet pulsar]

Surprisingly I'm not suggesting my own Well of Life propaganda right now.

[chrome cedar]

The 15 consecutive headshots?

[coral crest]

Basically you need to put an enemy into well of life

[velvet pulsar]

Go at night, find the Terry, keep spamming shots at the huge head.

[coral crest]

And then shoot it in the head 15 times

It counts

[chrome cedar]

Is that an eilodon?

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah the one roams around screaming

[chrome cedar]

Which frame has it?

[velvet pulsar]

Trinity

[coral crest]

Trinity, and it's a subsume as well

[fierce lark]

y'all overcomplicating tf outta this lol

[chrome cedar]

I'll try, I haven't fought a single eilodon since I started playing

[velvet pulsar]

U don't need to

[coral crest]

I'm just supporting well of life propaganda

[fierce lark]

just equip nothing but multishot mods, go into a steel path mission with frost, press 4 and shoot something

done

[chrome cedar]

I'm gonna die of boredom before I get all the trinity parts

[coral crest]

Do you want me to suggest blood altar instead

Or the lost

[chrome cedar]

Oh I do have that one

[velvet pulsar]

I do my challenges against eidolon head

Big target

[coral crest]

Eidolon head...

[velvet pulsar]

0 chances to fail

[fierce lark]

waiting until plains night to do an incarnon challenge is wild

[velvet pulsar]

Isn't it bugged for a long time now?

[swift flame]

Can anyone help me switch out some mods on this burston build I found need to find bane and pr shred alts

[velvet pulsar]

I see a Terry in broad daylight consistently now.

Shoot it before it despawns.

[fierce lark]

i have never seen this, and im aya farming constantly

[velvet pulsar]

Then I get the idea now how to trigger this bug

[chrome cedar]

Maybe I should try with a void angel

[fierce lark]

not a good idea, they twitch around

just cc and shoot a regular enemy lol

[velvet pulsar]

Begin plains from navigation

Not a bounty

Not from cetus

[chrome cedar]

They're kinda hard to headshot consistently, but I did it with the laetum, it should be easy with the toxocyst

[fierce lark]

the 17 headshots include multishot, you only need to actually land like 5

[velvet pulsar]

4×4 = 16 < 17

Unrealistic expectations.

[coral crest]

No-no

You also need to stack octavia multishot bonus

Then you're fine

[velvet pulsar]

Now that's...
That truly is over complicated.

And that's coming from the guy who started as an Octavia main because Octavia was my first prime.

We end as we began

Tenet Glaxion became my most used primary last year because of utility, and now this year it's going to be the same again or it'll be Rauta.

[gaunt sapphire]

i once again ask for atlas rumbled builds, or just advice on it

i know its nourish or xatas but i dont know the rest, like what type of survivability do i build for or how do i mod the landslide fists accordingly

i ideally want a build that actually throws rocks and isnt just using rumbled for the overguard

[lavish orbit]

To throw rocks you need to build up combo anyway, that's basically what I did build on him, his landslide though

All know that collision force is not really useful there, it's a free slot, put whatever you want, even more combo duration if you need, you'll one shot almost anything already

[gaunt sapphire]

hrmmm, exposure?

[lavish orbit]

You stack exposure over each use of your landslide

[gaunt sapphire]

ah ok, i dont have galv steel is regular fine?

[lavish orbit]

Yes, you will lose a bit of crit damage just, maybe replace with umbra for the time if you have it maxed

[gaunt sapphire]

alright thank you very much

im assuming its shield gating since thats easy to mod for and strong?

[lavish orbit]

For Atlas in itself, I modded for triumbra, and I know that it isn't really liked in the community, so what I would recommend is to build over range and strength basically, get battery for energy because you will build up armor with the rumbler, then you can pickup whatever you prefer between shieldgating or healthtanking

Landslide make you immune when you cast and for the duration of the slide, shieldgating is really the must for him

[gaunt sapphire]

and thats JUST with the rumbled augment?

or do you like rubble heap

[lavish orbit]

Throwing rocks doesn't count has landslide tho so you can't make shieldgate with rocks

[latent adder]

Itll just be alot less damage but yeah it works

[gaunt sapphire]

ok thank you

[lavish orbit]

rumbled + rubble heap* you're right

[latent adder]

For survivability use shade

[lavish orbit]

With rubble heap it makes energy cost less of a pain

[gaunt sapphire]

i dont have, i do have the huras kubrow

[latent adder]

Rubble heap doesnt do anything for rumbled

Huras works

[gaunt sapphire]

peculiar.

[lavish orbit]

not directly on rumbled that's true, on the base of casting casting landslide it helps, but if you only throw rocks that doesn't help at all

[latent adder]

Invisibility is kinda essential due to crepuscular so yeah run huras

Alternatively u could try evade

Or even quiver

[raw field]

what abilities on chroma can i replace and what should i replace them with?

[latent adder]

U can replace 1 or 4 with wrathful advance, nourish, omamori, spellbind or gloom (if persistence)

For persistence chroma i do gloom over 1

[raw field]

can i replace the 4 with wrathful advance aswell or keep chromas 4 in the build?

[fierce lark]

well you can't subsume 2 abilities at once

what kind of nonsense would it be if every frame could have roar shock and wrathful advance at the same time

wait

and war cry

build-a-frame

[raw field]

ah i see makes sense

[fierce lark]

also you can't subsume over different abilities in different configs, you have to undo the previous one first

which is actual bullshit but oh well DE wins

[slender vine]

Is the Vinqibus good with Arcane Blade Charger and Primary Charger?

[fierce lark]

it's probably the best weapon to use them lmao

[lavish orbit]

the same abilities I think you wanted to say

[fierce lark]

i meant that

or fixed what i meant

i cant put roar over 2 instead of 4 to do eso saryn

in a different config

[lavish orbit]

OH OK

I didn't got it like that

Yes sure like you can't put roar/eclipse besides replacing oraxia's 4th

[late hemlock]

so annoying ikr, honestly a subsume should be a permanent addition to your warframe and once you subsumed an ability to a frame once that frame should be able to freely toggle it on or off

[lavish orbit]

Ah seems I didn't understand completely again, but now I'm in lmao

[brisk estuary]

My final Valkyr build

For now at least

If I get Primed flow, I’ll swap out Archon flow

[fierce lark]

but muh resource sink

[late hemlock]

final

ever

i better not see you upgrading arcane fury

[brisk estuary]

Why not 😭

[severe bough]

Triumbra in 2026

[late hemlock]

you already have your final valkyr build

why change it

[fervent crescent]

on valkyr it ain't that bad

[brisk estuary]

Oh shit u right

Welp, guess I’m stuck with lvl 3 lmao

[brisk estuary]

It benefits all of her best stats, so why not?

[fierce lark]

yeah like i have roar over 4 on one config, and i'd like to put it on 2 for other configs for when i dont care about molt and i want to press 280 range roar'd miasma to nuke low lvl tiles

[late hemlock]

tbh you really dont need roar for eso

im just running max range spores + miasma and everything dies and you cap at 100% eff

[fervent crescent]

if you run arcane battery and a purple tau shard you can clear up two more mod slots

[fierce lark]

it's pretty bad

[severe bough]

U dont really need it since she got death gate as passive unless u wanna run persistance which i wouldnt do personally and for arcane battery u dont need all 3

[fierce lark]

the only thing vitality and fiber do is maybe save you if for some reason you're going 5+ seconds without hitting anything while actively getting shot

and tbh it's only vitality doing that, fiber is actually useless

valkyr gets like 10x what she'd be getting from fiber from warcry & hysteria

[severe bough]

Then just use brespite in aura and ur good again

[late hemlock]

id probably still use vitality + intensify just not fiber thats kinda overkill

[fierce lark]

vitality is like

an added layer for levelcap, running it below that is omega laziness insurance

[brittle sentinel]

Should I just forego spectral serration on cyte 09 since I cant reliably use it and crepuscular both at the same time?

[fierce lark]

why can't you? 🤔

[brisk estuary]

Well, what would you suggest I replace it with then?

[brittle sentinel]

because for serration to work you have to have your weapon out before going invisible

[fierce lark]

oh that's fascinating

[brittle sentinel]

and if its out before invis you dont get the ability strength from crepuscular

[fierce lark]

does neutralizer not update strength dynamically?

i see a lot of builds have growing power

[brittle sentinel]

from what I've been told none of the exalted weapons do

[brittle sentinel]

yea would need to proc it then take out neutralizer again

[severe bough]

when playing sobek cyte or zarr ctye SOMETIMES u get invis duration on kill tho most of the time u dont and also u need to have the weapon out before going invisi which isnt a problem with zarr sobek or whatever tho with neuti

[fierce lark]

spec serration sobek gaming

[severe bough]

On techrot when i play cyte zarr i get + duration on kill when i play in void cascade tho i dont dunno why tho

[severe bough]

steeling everyones kills through the hole map

[fierce lark]

(you can't equip serration on a shotgun lol)

[fervent crescent]

valkyr is a frame of excess don't replace it with anything just pile on more strengthhhhh

and subsume wrathful advance over ripline so you can scale off of strength harderrrr

[severe bough]

Sadly enought i cant play client cyte in arbi all the host ive meet had like 400+ ping 💀

[severe bough]

[fierce lark]

hm, well neutralizer certainly doesn't, dunno about others

[brisk estuary]

I don’t think I have that in my helminth

[fierce lark]

do you like the idea of 1shotting a room full of levelcap enemies?

[severe bough]

Yes

[brittle sentinel]

choice paralysis on cyte/neutralizer build 💔

[severe bough]

WA cyte when

Shouldnt melee projectiles also go through walls with cyte

[fierce lark]

just use crepuscular, base damage is everywhere anyway

also can't neutralizer use cannonade? you aren't even losing that much from spec serration

[brisk estuary]

Maybe

[brisk estuary]

Yeah it can

[fierce lark]

280 range riplines pull in every enemy within 25m of your target

if you ever wanted melee grouping this is it

claws do enough damage without extreme amounts of strength or buff damage arcanes

[void crater]

anyone have a decent Kavat Vasca + Claws build?
also another for Adarza Kavat

[brittle sentinel]

yea deadhead+cannonade, is also acuity vs galv chamber, acuity is additive with seek apparently

[fierce lark]

makes sense, they're both weakpoint multipliers

[queen sandal]

I must locate a gyre main.

if anyone knows one please tell em to DM me:D

[fierce lark]

i would say im an occasional gyre enjoyer but i don't really interact with the kit much

other than dropping my balls before i unload on someone

[main silo]

is archon vitality good for nova when ur playing stars ?

[fierce lark]

it is

[severe bough]

I do play her a lot tho i dont have main tho ik the builds u can do for her BUT in general she is pretty simple to play

[severe bough]

If your going for ability dps yes

[queen sandal]

why do people keep begging me to make a guide on her then
damn okay
that sounded rude wasnt supposed to be b tw

[severe bough]

U mean other people are telling u or what? all good i didnt quite understood it anyways

[fierce lark]

idk it's kinda hard to simplify gyre more than the game already does

equip 60 augments press 3+4 once per mission press 1 shoot stuff

subsume over 2 cause it's ass

[queen sandal]

i made guides for warframes and people are begging me to make one of gyre

[mighty flare]

Coil is okay

[severe bough]

Ah alr i mean pretty simple frame tho

Either u go ability dps or full platformer

[fierce lark]

coil is great if you're from south america or europe

[mighty flare]

You just subsume her 1/2 if platformer or caster

[main silo]

im still getting some corrupted mods etc , what would i swap it out for ? or do i need to wait till i can make up from dropping duration/power from the auger mods?

[fervent crescent]

make one for valkyr

[queen sandal]

"meow meow"
"rawr"
"damage = 9 billion" done

[mighty flare]

You should take ur time and not rush 👍

[fierce lark]

actually a valkyr guide would be great

so people can stop equipping triumbral for no reason

[severe bough]

Like meat says dont rush better of getting the important stuff all together then missing out on smth important

[queen sandal]

i spend alot of time getting info from mains and reading the entire wiki 10 times on repeat and then type it all out for 3 hours 💔

[queen sandal]

🫡 ill leave her till i find a gyre main then

[mighty flare]

I made guides in other servers and it took like couple of days 😭

But felt better to smooth out details then post it

[karmic badger]

At this point i just stack strength and duration, then persistence and rage

[queen sandal]

fair enough

[nova swift]

I use obsidian so I can arrange all my data. I highly recommend it

[mighty flare]

I use excel

[nova swift]

Easy to insert underframe short links too to compare dps in entire loadouts

Or embed latex if you need

[fierce lark]

duration stacking on valkyr 🤔

[fervent crescent]

a very cerebral warframe, truly

[queen sandal]

lmao

[nova swift]

Best valkyr dps increase is binding crouch to one of your side mouse buttons. Give that pinky some rest

[karmic badger]

I don't like recast warcry

[fierce lark]

me neither

good thing we have a mod for that

[severe bough]

Eternal war

Or however its called

[fierce lark]

im about to name it after myself

eternal cry

[severe bough]

Wasnt there Option to rename frames?

[karmic badger]

IIIIIII CRYYYY

WHEN ANGELS DESERVE TO

[severe bough]

Ik there is for weapons tho i thought frames too but mabye im dreaming

[rain sleet]

should I change anything on my wyrm prime or is this fine for general stuff

[distant pumice]

primed animal instinct over coolant leak?

[fierce lark]

you don't need assault mode and coolant leak at the same time, though if you take one off you'll need to accommodate the weapon build for the other

momentous bond would take up the empty slot

[karmic badger]

Wait... Ohhj

[rain sleet]

ok so then now how should i edit his weapon directly with this set up

[late hemlock]

id just boot off regen if you were using momentous ngl, thats enough cd reduction anyways

[fierce lark]

really? most builds i see use both primed regen and momentous

[late hemlock]

i guess it depends on how often does it die for you?

[rain sleet]

not very id say

[karmic badger]

Often enough to be annoying

[rain sleet]

yeah

[fierce lark]

content dependent maybe, mine dies enough that i can notice it dying at all which is too much lol

and id much rather more sentinel uptime than enemy radar

unless you're trying to optimize exterminates or a loot farm

[late hemlock]

i have been just not using animal instinct at all for a while

[fierce lark]

or disruptions

[late hemlock]

bought the primed to never level it up

[rain sleet]

I put it on when I need it

[fierce lark]

radar has its place but i dont find it that useful most of the time

[rain sleet]

like voca hunting or something

[fierce lark]

orokin eye solves that

[rain sleet]

don't have it yet

[fierce lark]

get to parallaxmaxxing

[rain sleet]

so now how about the weapon itself

[fierce lark]

did you pick assault mode or coolant leak

[rain sleet]

assault

[late hemlock]

why do you need multishot? whats the point

[rain sleet]

idk

[fierce lark]

you should get a helstrum or a tazicor from fortuna, if you can

[rain sleet]

hmmmm

alright ill go look

[late hemlock]

personally i prefer secondaries so you can slap augur

[fierce lark]

or a verglas prime (if you have nautilus prime) if you want the sentinel to bounce on the boys like it's the 60s

[rain sleet]

I do have a verglas prime

[fierce lark]

tazicor and helstrum are priming weapons, verglas is a dps weapon

so it's up to you what you want

[rain sleet]

so what do i want on them, lets start with verglas

[fierce lark]

if you're doing verglas you probably want duplex bond and fired up somewhere in the companion slots

[late hemlock]

if you use verglas maybe id fine a spot for duplex

[fierce lark]

im not sure how necessary fired up is, but duplex is definitely a must

[rain sleet]

ok ill do verglas, which means i need to get duplex

[late hemlock]

its worth either way

can go really funny with casters

[fierce lark]

duplex on tazicor companions with casters roam the map and flood random shit with like 5 statuses

so your screen is filled with ticking white numbers 24/7 lol

i use duplex tazicor wyrm on gauss sometimes, it is very stupid

but funny

here's a question for any knowers

do you keep manifold for the cdr if you aren't using any offensive precepts?

[rain sleet]

ok so for verglas, what should i swap with duplex and maybe fired up

[fierce lark]

i dont think shield charger is that good

[rain sleet]

ok ok so ill take that out, put assault mode there, and slot in duplex after i forma

do i bother with tenacious? should i try and verglas to 50% crit?

[fierce lark]

i think it needs a riven to get there?

[rain sleet]

oh bummer

ill take it out then and replace it with fired up

[fierce lark]

yeah, all things considered +1.2x crit damage after mods isn't usually that much anyway

[rain sleet]

fair enough

so what should i use on verglas itself

[fresh quail]

can you put the resource/credit booster animal mods on a robot hound?

[fierce lark]

pretty standard viral heat rifle build

[tawdry trail]

yeah crit verglas rivens are worth lots

[rain sleet]

cool cool

[fierce lark]

all verglas rivens are worth lots

trash ones are worth about the same as torid rivens

[deep grotto]

what are some good arcanes to run on trumna?

[tawdry trail]

to compensate for the pain of having to buy a companion weapon riven

[fierce lark]

deadhead, merciless, bulwark if you can get 1500 armor without trouble

im not gonna say plated round but it sounds hilarious

[deep grotto]

i run valk prime-

[tawdry trail]

how many grenades could you fire off with overcharge I wonder

[fierce lark]

run bulwark then

[deep grotto]

i'll see if i have it

[deep grotto]

overcharge is multishot im assuming?

[tawdry trail]

yup

[fierce lark]

500% unconditional base damage is ridiculous if you aren't going super out of your way to get the armor for it

and great for trumna since it doesn't want to run galv apt anyway, you can replace serration in a regular build for scope or bane or more fire rate

[deep grotto]

ah i was running apt cause it had gunco ngl

[fierce lark]

it only has gunco on direct hits from the altfire iirc, and that's like 10% of the altfire's damage

last i checked it had regular additive co on its primary fire but only to the main target

it has additive co to the main target only but scales off of hitscan damage so it's 124% effective (and doesn't gain damage from multishot)

so actually this gun is probably insane with both gaptitude and acuity lol

but yeah small tangent aside, as good as it is you don't need it with bulwark

[tawdry trail]

any frame can achieve the 1500 armour with just health conversion

I think I should explore this

maybe minus uriel and yareli

[fierce lark]

most frames can't maintain 3 stacks indefinitely so you'll have periods where you're getting very low damage

[tawdry trail]

does damage to shields consume stacks?

[fierce lark]

no

[late hemlock]

thats all frames, but its just not consistent and investing an extra mod slot compared to using the standard damage arcanes that arent that far behind (not counting the ramp up which is the price to pay)

[fierce lark]

maybe if you run shield gating on everyone

but then yeah, you're dedicating one slot to conversion, dedicating more slots to keeping up your stacks

[deep grotto]

primary fire

[fierce lark]

it's not worth forcing

[nova swift]

It can be worth on some frames with atrocious base energy so youd run battery with it. You would need invuln/shield gate with it tho

[tawdry trail]

a lot of squishy frames have to dedicate slots to not taking health damage anyways

it's a very fringe circumstance though

using bulwark with health conversion that is

[nova swift]

Kinda funny with garuda/nyx/rhino for differing reasons

[fierce lark]

okay hear me out

yet another problem that we can solve with circumvent

[late hemlock]

didnt bother to try armor on garuda, just been using her as a caster with spam

[nova swift]

Or someone like oraxia/citrine that craps out orbs

[dapper nimbus]

wich one should i take

[coral jay]

am trying to build this setup for dagath i found in a vid about her and so far only have this, any hint to farm the other mods?

[fierce lark]

right

[fierce lark]

a lot of those mods are just mods you find while you're playing the game naturally, that's probably why they're in the "baby tenno" config

[deep grotto]

man i don't have bulwark

[fierce lark]

time to do your weekly descendia

[deep grotto]

my ass hasn't touched descendia at all ngl 😭

i got merciless and deadhead tho

[late hemlock]

at least one weekly run of steel path is worth if you really hate it and dont wanna run normal

[nova swift]

Its pretty fun, im happy with descendia cause it made navigator ivara kinda viable in it

[late hemlock]

so much arcanes

[fierce lark]

deadhead is fine

but you should definitely do descendia at least until you have a few of the arcanes

[rain sleet]

dooes duplex bond work with someone like lavos who doesn't use energy? Im guessing not

[deep grotto]

went ahead and removed gaptitude

[late hemlock]

no

[deep grotto]

idk what to replace it with tho

[rain sleet]

right thats what i thought

[fierce lark]

keep it if you're not using bulwark

[deep grotto]

ah oka

[fierce lark]

calculates at about 127% effectiveness

only to your main target mind you, but trumna aoe isn't big enough to care about that anyway

may as well be phenmor

[deep grotto]

huh i have melee fortification

unless bulwark doesnt scale off that

[late hemlock]

bulwark updates in real time

[deep grotto]

:o?

oh fr?

[coral jay]

oh i see, its mostly for me hard to find even if i play the game, one of them its by a mecha on deimos the energy nexus on albercht's lab i still don't have acces

[deep grotto]

does summoner's wrath work on Uriel?

okay it do

[rain sleet]

ok i got the verglas build set up, now i might as well make a config for priming.

gonna need helstrum or tazicor

which generally is better, like if i had to pick one which should i target

actually nevermind i can afford both

[fierce lark]

it's ass

uriel's demons don't do much damage

[thorn oak]

what archon shards are we using on nova

[novel bear]

Cast speed and duration

Maybe strength

[fierce lark]

yeah there's not much you can do about that, albrecht's lab is post new-war stuff, you're beyond the "baby tenno" content by that point

weird mod to include in a new player build

same with the augment

[nova swift]

Yea its more of a "im about to go into steel path" kinda build

[modern vale]

Play naturally, you have very few mods left to create a beginner build.

[modern vale]

I thought the same

[coral jay]

i dont even have new war still i dont fidn in any adventure so it must be hiddne one thx

[fierce lark]

@velvet pulsar you were the one that told me persistent gas clouds don't have damage scaling right

[coral jay]

i don't know...

[fierce lark]

you'll see more mods as you finish missions

don't worry about things like that for right now

[modern vale]

I recommend not rushing through the story just to farm these mods. Not rewarding
Go farm a Warframe called Rhino, he's a lot of fun for beginners. Every part of him drops on Boss Jackal, Venus

[coral jay]

i have it maxed

am using it, am tryrign build a mod set for my dagath

i had it since i started rank two

am going to rank 6

[late hemlock]

After the target dies they lose damage yeah

[coral jay]

am using broken war too btw

[modern vale]

Oh that's cool
So in that case, do the following:

• Go to Cetus and look for a Contract that drops the Augur Message mod. It's very good.
• Go ahead and unlock the terminals as usual. If you want, you can even do secondary objectives like finding special lockers in Sabotage missions. They can give Endo.

[fierce lark]

does this not apply in simulacrum or something?

[modern vale]

You have just 3 mods at all.
Intensify, Continuity and other stuff will drop naturally

[late hemlock]

Been a while since I looked personally but this is the original thread

https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1468875-gas-status-clouds-are-bugged-after-the-main-enemy-is-dead/

[fierce lark]

someone in another server mentioned external influence with lash afflictions so i thought i'd try it with gas and

[modern vale]

Good
Unlock Deimos, complete the Heart of Deimos quest, and then farm the Weepings Wounds and Blood Rush mods from Mother's Contracts.
These two mods are VERY good.

Sometimes they can be there or not. Weepings Wounds is always the second contract and Blood Rush the fourth.

[modern vale]

Wow

[fierce lark]

i wouldn't bother with weeping wounds or blood rush until you have some source of combo duration

naramon focus school or drifting contact would be the earliest source of that

it's too hard to maintain combo with 5s duration

[modern vale]

Hmmmmm now I'm the one learning

[modern vale]

True though, But I can even maintain the combo consistently, I play very aggressively. It's my playstyle, but I think it might not be the same for that guy over there.

[tame musk]

hey please help me choose and explain why because i am noob (torid incarnon)

[fierce lark]

it's not really a playstyle thing, more an enemy density thing

especially in non-steel path where enemy density scales to group size

afaik

[modern vale]

I'm usually running and spamming bullet jumps forward 😅

[coral jay]

uuh i think i have done every quest of deimos... am doign vells vesel

[modern vale]

But gotcha

After leveling up Madurai, I'll level up Naramon.

[late hemlock]

Just work towards unlocking archgun and never think about combo duration ever again

[fierce lark]

the left build is a pure toxin build for single target dps, right is a corrosive cold build for crowds

[coral jay]

Augur message mod?

[fierce lark]

decide if you want more single target or more aoe

[modern vale]

So follow the Star Chart naturally and I still would recommend for you to farm these mods, but, it doesn't need to be now.

[fierce lark]

they're probably a long ways from gravimags lol

[coral jay]

star chart?

[late hemlock]

How early are necramechs i forgot

[fierce lark]

the navigation missions

[fierce lark]

new war i think

[late hemlock]

I have legit zero clue where is new war in terms of progression lmao

[fierce lark]

but you need i believe rank 5 fortuna and to have killed profit taker orb at least once to get the gravimag to put the archgun in your heavy slot

[modern vale]

Normal gameplay
The hard gameplay or "true gameplay" is Steel Path

[late hemlock]

You don't need the gravimag but you do need the uh ground launcher which is rank 5 actually I forgot that

[modern vale]

[fierce lark]

it's from p3 of the profit taker bounty

[coral jay]

oh ok

[fierce lark]

which is rank 5 fortuna

and you can't equip the archgun in the deployer slot without the gravimag

[tame musk]

tysm i guess i will go with dps crowd cntrl

[fierce lark]

i dont think you can steal arcanes from the archgun unless you actually equip it so you need the gravimag

[late hemlock]

Mausolon comes with it built in

You have gravimag just no launcher

So cant equip it on gear

[tame musk]

is this the best one?

[fierce lark]

is that still true if you started after the gravimag update for necramechs?

[west radish]

there is no hard gameplay

[late hemlock]

Uhhhhh damn if I know

I had the necramechs from when they came out but only maxed out fortuna after old peace

[fierce lark]

for general use yeah

[tame musk]

steel path?

[modern vale]

I'm kinda new, for me Steel Path will be hard as heck

[late hemlock]

Go public and get carried

[modern vale]

😭🙏🏼

[late hemlock]

People be nuking maps either way its all good

[fierce lark]

someone who regularly does sp would have an easier time getting into levelcap than someone who's just finished starchart will getting into sp

is what i would say if nataruk didn't exist

[modern vale]

I prefer to prepare myself minimally before entering the SP.
Maybe my Caliban is ready, but I need Nikana Prime for security.
I already got Condition Overload
Oh and my Nataruk is not finished yet

[fierce lark]

razor mortar caliban will solo the entire game

[modern vale]

Ye I have the mod! Got it yesterday 🙏🏼

[late hemlock]

Get like one copy of secondary fortitier from playing 1 match of Ascension on uranus

Equip it on some aoe secondary

Congrats you now have the ultimate budget survivability tool

[modern vale]

I just need to think where to put it
Maybe I'll remove Transit Fortitude

[fierce lark]

it is a self-sustaining nuke that quadroubles as a grouping tool, mobility tool and ccing tool

[modern vale]

All my secondary sucks, but thanks for the tip

[late hemlock]

Get literally anything with some area damage

All the better if it sucks

[modern vale]

So I became concerned about the cost of energy. I don't have any real ways to recover energy. I don't have Flow on my build

[fierce lark]

you don't need to

razor gyre refunds energy cost if it hits enemies

[modern vale]

Oh

Okay I'm feeling more secure now

[fierce lark]

if you ever get archon stretch it's an energy-positive button

[coral jay]

@modern vale so what mods you recommend me to try get for dagath?

[fierce lark]

actually the archon stretch bit im not sure about

[modern vale]

I'm currently farming Deimos to get the Helminth segment
To install archon Crystals, I saw that they're useful a lot
But Arcon Stretch is a mod right?

[fierce lark]

one sec

[modern vale]

I really don't know anything more advanced for Dagath.
My best advice would be to wait until you can get better mods than the ones you currently have.

Bc you have like, just 3 mods @coral jay

[fierce lark]

okay so they did fix archon stretch and it works with razor mortar

[coral jay]

on her only 3

[fierce lark]

so yeah archon stretch is a mod from kahl's garrison

[modern vale]

I'm going to grind for that mod to finish my build for Caliban.
Ty!

[fierce lark]

it is entirely optional and you don't need it but it's the same range as base stretch with added mod cost, so if you're fine spending the extra forma and endo/credits to level it up then it's cool

[coral jay]

@modern vale this its what i put on her rn imma level her so i can put the faster reflection

[wraith sinew]

are there any arcanes that i can use with gyre prime lightninging everything?

[fierce lark]

you could use molt vigor to snapshot strength for her 3 & 4 at the start of the mission, should only have to cast those once

[modern vale]

Continuity
Intensify
Stretch
Streamline
Flow
Maybe Augur Message

[fierce lark]

other arcane i use is circumvent as the primary survivability tool

[modern vale]

I should probably ask for wisdom from @fierce lark Here

[fierce lark]

the heck

i dont really know how survivability works in base starchart, i always did missions in public lobbies so everything died before anything could become threatening

[modern vale]

XD

[coral jay]

okay am tryign get Augur message

[modern vale]

Her survivability relys on her 3rd ability, so, get used to it

[fierce lark]

i wish i was joking but like

vitality looks super out of place and im trying to think like "is this actually useful in keeping someone alive in lower lvl missions?"

[nova swift]

funnily enough, at that level it probably does for dagath

[fierce lark]

first things first though, spend your initial mod capacity and your endo on leveling and slotting the stat mods that don't have a lot of ranks to max

stretch, intensify, continuity, streamline etc

[tawdry trail]

health orbs are a lot more common than when I started, it used to be health damage was kinda serious so would max shields on everything

[nova swift]

with her 3 passive active every kill drops health orbs, and she can "crit" on those orbs to heal her a ton

[fierce lark]

don't level anything beyond rank 6/8 for now, and yeah keep equilibrium

[coral jay]

yeah

[nova swift]

if your 3 pops cause you died, any kill you make will drop health orbs. With equilibrium this will restore your energy to cast abilities and heal you up back to full before the 3 runs out

[coral jay]

i only level wich one i use on my warframe or weapons tahts why theres so many with no level

[wraith sinew]

could conjunction voltage be good with gyre? and if so what secondaries would be good (mr11)

[fierce lark]

no, conjunction voltage is complete ass

[late hemlock]

I wouldn't call 120% multishot ass its just that the arcane slot for secondaries is extremely competitive so this doesn't hold up comparatively

[coral jay]

gettign augerusi got all 4 abilities of dagath now

[rapid trench]

Any khora mains out there? I am running high range and it makes me feel like my aim is worse than a toddler. Should I just run high aoe weapons vs torid incarnon for example?

[fierce lark]

that's why it's ass lol

it's also stacking on top the lethal torrent run in most secondary builds, on top of diffusion

[kind compass]

Damage should transfer to all enemies in the strangledome if you hit them with whipclaw

Therefore your goal as khora is to set down ur strangledomes and then whipclaw that to maximize range

[fierce lark]

honestly i dont even think conjunction voltage as a standalone mod would make it into a lot of secondary builds unless you had external fire rate to drop torrent

[kind compass]

At least afaik

[subtle pivot]

Anyone got a build for Dual toxocyst? I finished all incarnon challenges. Which nodes to pick would be helpful as well.

[kind compass]

I can send you mine in a bit, hold on

[rapid trench]

Yeah I was just trying to use a weapon sometimes cause I like to pewpew. But I guess brain dead spam is the way to go.

[kind compass]

if you want to use a weapon then khora's abilities may not be the perfect fit although having ensnare as a grouping ability IS useful

[fierce lark]

you can play how you want, but the only purpose to play khora is to whip things, in or out of the dome, so take that how you will

she offers zero benefit to gunplay

other than i guess some slow-ish grouping with her 2

[wraith sinew]

oh ok

[rapid trench]

That doesn't mean i don't use guns cause a frame doesn't have gun buffs

[kind compass]

Evos are carnage reign, marksman's hand and commodore's fortune for me
this build easily hits millions of damage per shot as long as you're landing headshots

[fierce lark]

of course, it moreso makes them redundant outside of "i have no energy to whip"

[kind compass]

riven can be replaced with merciless gunfight or sharpened bullets, alternatively magnetic might is good

[subtle pivot]

What should I put in absence of the Riven?

[kind compass]

anything with crit damage/crit chance you can slot in is good
also the arcane is not necessary, I just like the gambling aspect

[subtle pivot]

bet ty ty

[kind compass]

if you DO end up with a riven, with my build you can sacrifice multishot and instead get tox/cold for bonus viral (along with CC/CD as usual)

[fierce lark]

why encumber if you're killing everything in 1 bullet anyway

[kind compass]

why not

[subtle pivot]

Would nautilus viral proc suffice?

[kind compass]

im debating using deadhead or fortifier instead

[fierce lark]

because it's the same as not equipping an arcane, you can use fortifier or something instead

deadhead to kill thrax/acolytes faster

[kind compass]

the build i have gives viral alr, u dont need to mod any extra elem

besides u kill enemies in one bullet anyway, as long as it hits the head

[fierce lark]

landing headshots gives the gun 3 seconds of +100% combining toxin dmg

or whatever %

[kind compass]

also the exilus slot is a flex slot put whatever you like

[fierce lark]

the element of choice is usually corrosive but if you don't own primed convulsion it probably doesn't matter

[kind compass]

why corrosive?

[coral jay]

vigilante pursuit how good is it?

[kind compass]

it literally doesnt help, by the time armor is stripped enough to matter, the gun has alr nuked the room

[fierce lark]

best damage type against the only faction you're likely to not 1tap

and because of primed elec mod

moreso the second part

there's no primed cold for pistols

[late hemlock]

There's primed heat so could just run blast ig

Thats what im doing since I missed primed elec

[fierce lark]

you mean gas?

[kind compass]

I feel like viral would work better due to its instantaneous value

enemies even at level cap dont have enough HP to tank dual tox with viral on it

[kind compass]

gas on dual tox?

i suppose that does work but it's redundant with the ricochet headshots taht dual tox has innately

[late hemlock]

It's there for the raw damage not the combo

Couldn't care less about the procs in any normal content

[kind compass]

doesnt gas not add raw damage to a weapon or was i tripping

[late hemlock]

The heat mod itself

[fierce lark]

viral only gets value when you actually apply the status, and acuity hurts the status output a lot

[fierce lark]

damage is damage, "elemental damage" is its own calculation and the type of elements are irrelevant to it

barring faction strengths and weaknesses

don't use gas against scaldra etc

also im pretty sure if you don't have external armor strip, corrosive is always outscaling viral against grineer anyways

[late hemlock]

Could use viral heat anyways I'd imagine its better than trying to double dip on armor with corro heat? Unless you cant fit heat

[kind void]

i still hate that they dont let us stop elements from combining

why cant i have cold toxin on my melee?

[late hemlock]

Being able to run heat elec tox on a status damage weapon would be kinda stupid ngl

[fierce lark]

lol

[kind void]

yah but oyu can already do something similar

we have several combined elemental mopds

so running that many elements is easy

i mean look at bubonico right now

it can run 4 combined elements at the same time

[late hemlock]

Frankly most combined elements have worse effects than base as far as the status itself goes lol

[kind void]

this is already possible. so why cant we just be able to use base elements together

[fierce lark]

eh it's not really that kind of gun

and punch through has exponential scaling with the incarnon ricochet so i can't see that being dropped

[late hemlock]

Ah I thought you meant generally not toxo specific

[kind void]

i did. i just want to make a weapon called the exwife\

toxic and cold

but there are alot of other things you could do with it. weapons with innate elements wont be restricted anymore

[nocturne spindle]

Just use the cedo

Alt fire procs every lone element

[kind void]

yah so does the bubonico

[fierce lark]

oh lol no im purely talking about the tox

you can plug & play the same viral heat 8 mod setup and flare for most of them tbh

[tawdry trail]

it would be very cool to get a set of non-combining elemental mods in the future

[kind void]

yah thats what i really want

there are quite a few weapons that are almost useless because they have an innate element that isnt usually liked

[tawdry trail]

I also miss old gas because the damage would scale with toxin mods and now it doesn't

[brittle sleet]

...no?

Bubonico easily could do all 4 with Debilitate and its alt-fire though

[kind void]

well yah why would you not use that for priming?

kinda figured that was a given

[rapid trench]

Any khora subsume recommendations? Was going to use on her 3

[kind void]

on top of 3.5 multishot

[fierce lark]

lycath's or dispensary

depending on if you're looting or just running around

(also assuming you're using accumulating whipclaw and not modding ability strength)

[rapid trench]

I need to get that aug

Currently doing str build

[fierce lark]

could do nourish then

[wraith sinew]

would primary crux work on the soma? and is it worth using an adapter for

[lavish orbit]

I tend to do WA has an number addictive person

[versed inlet]

Which to pick...

[fierce lark]

oh no...

[versed inlet]

I think Vigor looks cool frfr

[fierce lark]

smile

[fierce lark]

it works, it's great for the augment and you want arcanes anyways because arcanes are opop

[deep grotto]

Why wouldn’t it lol

[versed inlet]

i might go with Shred tbh
Knockdown immunity is cool, but it really isn't that big of an issue imo

[fierce lark]

shred is in almost every rifle build

even if you have external fire rate, it has punch through

[wraith sinew]

does the augment only work on prime tho

i have regular ver

[fierce lark]

yes, base soma is something you level for MR and then go back to your nataruk

never worth investing in guns that have a strictly better variant

[hexed coyote]

Whats the best cedo arcane?

[wraith sinew]

ah ok, though in my case its back to the kuva ogris

[fierce lark]

blight

[wraith sinew]

soma prime worth the plat?

[fierce lark]

as long as you're using the altfire

[fierce lark]

not without the incarnon no

[late hemlock]

Id get psf because its really nice to have qol and exilus slot is usually low value mods

Also totally negates the annoyance of using aoe weapons with knockback

Other people here will swear by never using it, so honestly up to your preference

[wraith sinew]

i see

[fierce lark]

i would use psf on almost every frame if i had it, but im not willing to give up primed shred for it

[deep grotto]

Yuh

[hexed coyote]

Ive tested it and frostbite

[late hemlock]

I would go absolutely insane using something like akarius or ogris or glaives without it

[hexed coyote]

Ive been leaning into frostbite more lately

The extra bit of multishot is fun

[fierce lark]

blight is better, you get a lot more multishot than crit damage from mods

but up to you

[hexed coyote]

My riven is the one on in the left, is it good? (Ive already picked a week ago this an old photo)

[fierce lark]

both unslottable

[deep grotto]

What are the ideal stats for a cedo riv then-

Genuinely curious now (i will probably forget anyway)

[fierce lark]

fire rate, multishot, crit damage, crit chance, toxin maybe

it has atrociously bad disposition so getting a usable riven is probably going to take a lot of rolls

[maiden oracle]

DE nerfing the good fun guns by giving them a 1/5 funni purple circles

[fierce lark]

every gun is released that way, im not sure when that policy started but yeah

well i dont know if every gun comes out with bottom dispo but it seems that way

[maiden oracle]

Anyways
Sar do you know if Exalted Blade scales with ability strength

[fierce lark]

over time usually around prime access patches they do dispo updates

[maiden oracle]

I'm assuming it does but I'd rather be sure

[fierce lark]

yes

[maiden oracle]

Alright awesome

[fierce lark]

as far as im aware, all of the melees scale additively at a 1:1 rate

[maiden oracle]

Which means?

I'm stupid

[ebon valve]

Guys could anyone give a multi shot for the rifle if not where do I find them

[fierce lark]

1% ability strength = 1% base melee damage

[fierce lark]

are you on Eris yet?

[maiden oracle]

Ah cool

[ebon valve]

Let me check

No I am not

[fierce lark]

if you can do the eris junction, do that, unlock arbitrations, do those until you get 20 vitus essence, and buy galvanized chamber from the arbitrations vendor on any relay

[ebon valve]

Ok

[sturdy pike]

hey guys kinda new to warframe idk if this is good or not if anyone has any ideas would be greatly appreciated

[late hemlock]

Having a burston riven is fantastic

This roll is absolutely terrible though

[sturdy pike]

tuff lmaooo

thanks i figured cuz multishot

[late hemlock]

All 3 positives are useless anyways

[fathom sky]

The three positives being good wouldn't fix -ms, so

[tawdry trail]

are there any mods that give minus projectile flight speed?

doesn't look like it

:(

[old marsh]

Rivens

U can get -100% proj speed

[tawdry trail]

oh my goodness

I did consider rivens but I did not think it would be so easy to find a - proj speed one with decent positives

[kind void]

and then there is this thing

why the broken heart?

that things worth like 15k

[fierce lark]

really? -proj is a pretty bad negative for normal use, i wouldn't expect those to be super expensive

[tawdry trail]

-100% slash on a weapon that's 70% slash

oh incarnon right

[tawdry trail]

not expensive at all, I thought it would just be rare

I simply want the tenet envoy to have a dumb shambling missile

[fierce lark]

-slash is good

you want - whatever your highest IPS weighting is, on pmuch any status damage melee

physical dmg is completely irrelevant you want as much weighting towards the element you are using

groll nami solo riv is -slash

[tawdry trail]

what I have gathered from this is that I should roll my hate riven

[kind void]

or you can buy one of the ones i have

i have several top level rolls

[tawdry trail]

no thanks I actually do not have that much plat believe it or not

[fierce lark]

why are you holding onto a filled garage worth of rivens

[modern vale]

Add Equilibrium

[kind void]

me? its hard to find people who have the plat for strong rivens

i have several hate rivens that are worth alot of plat

[tawdry trail]

this has been sitting for years unrolled because I never got hate

[kind void]

nothing as good at the one i posted

but good 5k plat give or take a bit

all could be seen as groll level rivens

[steep furnace]

wait tenet envoy rivens are good? i got one like yesterday and transmutated it?

[tawdry trail]

nah this is just for personal use

[steep furnace]

oh ok

[kind void]

no one interested in some insanly strong hate rivens?

i do have a much cheaper one thats going for about 1500. not quite as good but still very strong

[tawdry trail]

I think we're all poor

[steep furnace]

is this build good? also i sent 2 pics because there are alot of things there

i made it myself and my builds are always said to be ''trash'' by some people

(non incarnon form) i dont know how but sometimes it does 70k damage on non incarnon

[fierce lark]

i made a deal with myself that i will never buy a riven

[tawdry trail]

wow

not even a cheap one?

[fierce lark]

nope

rivens that are cheap are usually cheap because either the weapon is bad (or unpopular) or the riven dispo is bad

[tawdry trail]

I bought a furax riven for real cheap and spun it into something decent

[fierce lark]

when both are good (most duviri incarnons) you start getting into the 3 digits for trash rolls rivens

[tawdry trail]

thankfully the furax incarnon is kind of dumb so most people do not care

[fierce lark]

furax isn’t popularly used as an actual weapon so that’s understandable

that’s actually insane for a gas afflictions slam build

i recall furax being pretty good for slams

[tawdry trail]

I just use heat afflictions for the incarnon heavy slams but gas could be fun

[fierce lark]

gas is always great with heavy afflictions builds

[tawdry trail]

some of its evolutions are geared for heavy slams and some are geared for normal slams so it's weird

it also has innate initial combo so I think with galv reflex + corrupt charge you can get to 8x

oh yeah gas is very silly

[brisk estuary]

What ability should I put Energized munitions over for Gauss?

[steep furnace]

what element should i pick for tenet diplos

[severe kettle]

Is Pistol Acuity a good mod for Mesa Primes regulators?

[mighty flare]

No

[fresh quail]

Would this be good on the Coda Mire?

[ashen salmon]

Anyone got a nami solo build i could get my hands on?

[worthy ruin]

Is this good

[night laurel]

her regs only do body shots, no

[rapid trench]

Khora question, why not build for some positive strength while using whip aug? Wouldn't it get more out of it than negative strength?

[brittle sleet]

You just don't get enough of a boost out of it to justify doing so, especially since the rest of her kit doesn't care for str either

[fierce lark]

accumulating whipclaw’s damage boost is additive to ability strength

that’s why we don’t care about strength on her

if you’re running a damage buff subsume like roar or nourish, then you can add back some strength

molt augmented, umbral intensify, transient fortitude etc

don’t blind rage, she rly wants positive efficiency or at least neutral

[rapid trench]

But wouldn't the damage numbers be higher?

[fierce lark]

Other stats are more important, the relative value of strength is very low when accumulating whipclaw already gives 350%

[rapid trench]

Sorry it's just strange lol

Originally I was going to try with WA subsume. But so much for that lol

Ty for answers

[karmic badger]

You're spamming whipclaw to build combo for combo mods, those will provide more power over power strength

[ebon valve]

Which guy is the arbitration vendor?

[rapid trench]

I was going to run arcane fury and hot shot as well while running with just enough heat on whip

[fierce lark]

You can do that, there’s nothing wrong with it, you just need to build strength to accommodate it

Drop overextended, add intensify, molt augmented, etc

Whipclaw range is capped at 200% and you can get to 190 without it

[rapid trench]

Even for dome going past 190 isnt worth it?

[fierce lark]

Super high range dome gets awkward sometimes, can trap enemies behind walls out of looting range

[rapid trench]

Hm, true

[fierce lark]

though I haven’t used khora for looting in a long while so I don’t remember if the dome itself can extend through walls, iirc it doesn’t

but it does grab enemies through walls I know that much

[coral jay]

@modern vale i been grinding for like 2 hours and got no intesify

taht was before like an hour ago or more

[celest sparrow]

should i go with more dmg or multishot?

[thorn oak]

what progenitor kuva kohm

[severe carbon]

What element type are you wanting?

[thorn oak]

viral and heat

[karmic badger]

Heat

[severe carbon]

Well for heat as the bonus frames like ember ans uriel would work. Viral I don't remember, and the kuva weapon are on a chance based system that rotates through all the different kuva lich weapons

[thorn oak]

okay thanks

[severe carbon]

Not a problem happy hunting tenno

[quiet plover]

Anybody have a build recommendation for the Coda Motovore?

[teal holly]

It depends what physical element you want to emphasize.

[quiet plover]

Impact

No wait, Slash

Honestly I'm curious about builds in each physical element

[fierce lark]

iirc motovore builds slam exposure and runs all the + impact mods (because primed impact exists)

[quiet plover]

But yeah, I'm mainly looking for Slash rn

[teal holly]

Okay, Slash increases Status chance a lot, so I go for Influence with Electric and Gas.

[mighty flare]

impact --> melee exposure + slam
slash --> melee influence
puncture --> doughty

[mighty flare]

blood rush?

what is that build

[fierce lark]

duplicate actually makes way more sense, exposure barely scales

blood rush proibably to make a good crit number

ninjase's motovore

[quiet plover]

This is for Impact, right?

Saving in for later

[teal holly]

My Slash build.

[mighty flare]

eh

[quiet plover]

Where do you get Buzz Kill?

[fierce lark]

im assuming BR is for a good crit number for duplicate

[teal holly]

I think it's a Baro exclusive.

[mighty flare]

slash's gimmick is it gets to not run a slash mod for undiluted influence
influence without weepings and heavy gas is bad

[quiet plover]

Ok. Guess I just have to wait until he carries it again

[teal holly]

Oh, wait, you can get it from Hydrolysts. Better luck waiting for Baro though.

Unless you really need to go Eidolon hunting anyway.

[quiet plover]

Well it is on this week's Nightwave

[teal holly]

There you go, then.

[quiet plover]

Thanks for the suggestions guys!

There are so many options for this weapon alone it was making my head spin

[night laurel]

why is the braton "worse" than the burston incarnon-wise, btw?

[tawdry trail]

burston has much higher fire rate and triple the magazine size

[night laurel]

i see, even though their incarnons are? practically the same?

[tawdry trail]

they've got nearly identical crit and statuts stats in incarnon form, their respective evolutions might make a big difference

[night laurel]

respective evolutions?

[ebon valve]

Should I run burston prime for my volt nuke build?

[tawdry trail]

yeah, like burston incarnon's fourth evolution can bump up base crit chance by a lot more than the braton's fourth evolution

[night laurel]

neat! thanks

[narrow granite]

dumbest build ever <need forma more and prep mode from arbi in exi but is fokin great to max out simaris standing in 1 sp earth capture mission ❤️

[valid brook]

should i change anything?

[tawdry trail]

you could slot arcane expertise if you have it

[narrow granite]

opignion on mi volt eso build? :V am planin to fill him up with purpurs achuusharts

[rain sleet]

how does this hound build look for regular gameplay

[dark isle]

is this still good even have -SD?

[fierce lark]

unusable

your statuses will last about 0.576s lol

the only status that would even do any damage is elec for the first tick, others do their damage after 1 second and every second after for 6s total

your viral stacks would fall off just as fast as you’d be applying them lmao

[coral crest]

Fit Synergized Prospectus instead

With Manifold Bond it's geniunely one of the best primers in the game

Coolant leak is a waste when you have null/repo audit and Synergized prospectus

I recommend changing coolant leak to a survivability source. Like Aerial Bond, or Restorative Bond, or Pack Leader. Whatever works for you

For melee I recommend slotting Melee Elementalist over lasting sting

All attacks hounds do are actually considered heavy attacks, so wind up speed makes them attack much faster in melee

[patent fern]

Is the kuva hind worth getting? I got this riven and idk if its worth the entire grind just to use

if not, are there any other kuva weapons worth getting? currently have the bramma, nukor, and sobek

[celest sparrow]

is it better to have more multishot or crit chance?

[patent fern]

i hope this is worth the struggle

hind will have to wait

[glass rampart]

It's a basic assault rifle

Kuva Hind is decent but there's so many more better rifles

[severe bough]

When torid prime tho

[coral crest]

Coda Torid

No Incarnon, it's just a buffed poop launcher

[patent fern]

dung blaster would be sick

[coral crest]

Tbh you can't convince me that Torxica wasn't a legally distinct toxocyst

So they can easily make something like Poorid

And it's a completely separate gun, trust

[patent fern]

id invest

wait a damn minute

how are people using the grattler on warframes if its an archgun

[coral crest]

Gravimag

Rank5 Solaris. Profit taker missions

[frosty fjord]

gravimag and archweapon deployer

[patent fern]

"rank 5 solaris" "profit taker missions" that sounds like gibberish to me

getting rank 5 on any of the open worlds is just way too tedious and i keep forgetting to do it daily

dont even get me started on profit taker

[winged nebula]

Using this for pox primer and Stahlta

[tawdry hamlet]

So I kinda helmenith'd mag's pull onto valkyr prime over her ripline and she absolutely smashes on sp, she's one of my mains along with wisp. Just wondering if anyone has any other suggestions

[raw sigil]

is tau emerald heal on tox bad?

[fierce lark]

extremely

[raw sigil]

why tho

i assumed it'd be decent on oraxia

[fierce lark]

because you're getting max 3 health per second per enemy

per shard ofc

[raw sigil]

oh its per second?

[fierce lark]

per damage dealt by toxin status, which is per second

[raw sigil]

oh.

i thought something with high multishot could be funny

[fierce lark]

damaging statuses usually last 6 seconds and deal damage each second, starting after the first second. elec is the exception where it does a damage tick early, then again every second

[raw sigil]

been playing with this for giga tox damage from silken stride

i think i'll go for hema and its augment for lifesteal

turning it off and on again works for heal but then i'd have to do the funny ritual for snapshotting again

[night laurel]

asides from getting gud is there a tip to not die from toxin eximus asides from using adaptation or persistence or stealing overguard with circumvent?

i have a 300 health harrow (evade subsumed, once i get it going i just never take damage anyways. especially after i have circumvent going) but when a toxin eximus decides to park next to me i just blow up and die

[fierce lark]

im very curious why you subsumed valkyr's grouping ability with what i believe to be a worse one

[raw sigil]

i mean you could use secondary fortifier for another layer of overguard stealing

[fierce lark]

i uh, have some bad news

bellicose doesn't do what you want it to do

[raw sigil]

i mean it kinda does

[night laurel]

if there's no eximus i just eat shit and die?

damn

not that i mind it at all. it just takes one eximus to get the ovg going

[fierce lark]

the extra strength from silken stride's hp doesn't apply to the toxin buff, it snapshots your strength from before you transformed

[raw sigil]

i snapshot the bellicose's str to the funny mushroom and that boosts silken

[fierce lark]

hm 🤔

thats an option i suppose

i just went with nourish augmented, way easier

[raw sigil]

i can hit 98% str on brightbonnet with madurai sling + grimoire and bellicose

and that lets me hit around 255% tox without wall latching

i think (dont really remember the exact number altough it was def around 230-250)

+basically infinite energy regen

and more vuln from web

[fierce lark]

preference

i like not spending mod slots on surviving when it's avoidable

[raw sigil]

fair point

[fierce lark]

or arcanes

[raw sigil]

i love big numbers

i think i'll go for hema tho for the life steal

[fierce lark]

i tried camisado snapshotting but getting spiders to actually attack 10 times is apparently pretty hard

that was an archon disruption, i'll try it in something higher another time

[raw sigil]

that sounds silly and interesting

this week's coda hema has impact

aeurgh

[fierce lark]

we believe in vice

[raw sigil]

i need hella standing

and rank 5 hex

oh hold up you can pick that up from market??

[fierce lark]

can you? idk lmao

[raw sigil]

I DIDNT KNOW

its 20 plat.

[fierce lark]

honestly that's not bad if you can't get them yet

although

genuinely impact on hema is fine

the progenitor doesn't matter hugely as long as it's not a combining element

magnetic is preferred but impact/radiation in the meanwhile is fine

[tawdry hamlet]

Because I play on console and I was constantly shooting myself around the room, honestly mag's pull is far better. Personal opinions matter but imma stay with my pull

[fierce lark]

fair enough, whatever works for you

[fierce lark]

btw the hema is like

no shit one of the strongest guns in the game rn it feels like

or at least one of the hardest hitting

[velvet pulsar]

What's your build?
Coz I don't see my viral blast build performing that impressively.

[fierce lark]

corrocold

[velvet pulsar]

That's even more surprising

Dang and no crit build

[fierce lark]

augment supplies the crit

[velvet pulsar]

And then cold will boost final CD even more

[fierce lark]

cold is just there bc primed element

[velvet pulsar]

So you're playing it as raw damage without any DoTs...

[fierce lark]

i did raw corrosive for a bit with critical delay instead of primed cryo

[velvet pulsar]

Hmm

[fierce lark]

that one also felt good

[velvet pulsar]

I thought viral blast would be a good and unique combo

Because blast will take 300% damage explosion and viral will multiply it by 4.

[fierce lark]

i almost wanna do delay instead of serration and use madurai strike to get deadhead & gapt stacks, augment by itself only gets to 92% cc

or scope even lol

might do galv scope over shred, rbond is giving fire rate

viral is only multiplying the dmg to your main target

[velvet pulsar]

By any chance, do u run a puncture primer companion?

[fierce lark]

nope just panzer most of the time

with slash claws

[velvet pulsar]

Can viral quills apply puncture using that one posture mod?

Protector Posture

[fierce lark]

probably not, since it specifies "attacks"

[velvet pulsar]

All companion damage triggers hunter recovery

Including viral quills

Hence it's safe to assume that could work

[fierce lark]

yes

[velvet pulsar]

Puncture boosts CC by flat +25% so I asked

[fierce lark]

primed shred at home

[spare remnant]

Does anyone have a good build for Nidus?

I used to play him religiously whenever his prime came out and now I am trying to return to playing him and I am having little to no luck, Like I am trying to go into Steel path with him

Wait I just saw the players helping players chat, sorry if I Posted that in the wrong chat

[late hemlock]

Nidus is kinda gimped in normal missions because half of his kit revolves around buildup

Ig you can spam 2 for really effective grouping and blast mobs that way

[glass rampart]

Nidus is like Koumei but less interestinf

[valid stratus]

Not sure it's effective in steel path, but in normal path I like putting brightbonnet over his 4, and spam larva burst once I set it down. It feels a little different, but he's still reliant on that buildup

[cedar root]

Need help building this, besides maxing arcane, is there anything I should change

[midnight horizon]

And it's all stationary too

[hexed coyote]

Is there a difference in performance between R5 and R0 arcane persistence?

[midnight horizon]

Just use him as a Weapon platformer I guess he is immortal in a sense... You won't die if you build his mutation more

[coral crest]

Yes. Ranks lower the damage cap

By 50 per rank

So r0 limits damage to 750 per second

With r5 being 500

[midnight horizon]

Oh hi Nuclearrrrr

[coral crest]

Hi

[midnight horizon]

Do you have an aggressive Panzer build? 🙂

Bc.... I am so disappointed with Panzer

[hexed coyote]

But does that matter tho?

Is it a relevant change?

[midnight horizon]

Yeah and no

Depends on you

[modern vale]

It's a normal drop from Defense/Survival Grinner or Corpus

It drops from enemies

[hexed coyote]

Does it matter in sp?

[coral crest]

It allows for higher amount of thresholds in your hp bar

If you have 1750 hp, you'll have 2 thresholds at r0

At 1000 and at 250, then you die

At r5 it becomes 1250, 750, 250

You get an extra second to react and heal

[coral crest]

I don't.

[hexed coyote]

Scaldra tank is genuinely unfair bullshit when playing Lavos with persistence

I have no form of healing and my ammor ran out on only 4 weakness points

[glass rampart]

Persistence has caveats and that one of them is reliable healing

[hasty dome]

is dual toxocyst a great on boss or its great minions? i recently got the incarn on it so want to try it on bosses..

[midnight horizon]

Both, but depends if the boss has weakpoints

Like it's bad against the boss in Deimos... The 3 headed one

Bc idk where the weakpoints are to recharge my incarnon

[hasty dome]

aight bet the gun look fun to use i gonna farm for it

[midnight horizon]

Base form it's bad, get the incarnon

[karmic badger]

The mouths

[midnight horizon]

Those are their weakpoints? Goddamn this infested are weird as hell

[fierce lark]

they don't grant weakpoint bonuses, i dont think they charge incarnons either cause i remember having to charge the on the shit outside

think one of them has a 2x multiplier on the mouth

[midnight horizon]

Yeah that's the thing....

It sucks hahahah

[deep grotto]

Viral would require a tox lich

[glass rampart]

OI NASI LEMAK???

[hasty dome]

yo sup

[glass rampart]

Delicious

I love nasi lemak

[hasty dome]

W i love it too👍

[velvet sundial]

Is the Zarr any good?

[glass rampart]

Zarr? Mid. Kuva Zarr? Peak

[hard dove]

Both mid unless you have cyte

[glass rampart]

Disagree Kuva Zarr is good with or without

Kuva Sobek is mid without a buffer

[fierce lark]

kuva zarr has the exact same issues as the bramma, except you have to actually reload it

it still gets bent over by its own lack of ammo

[glass rampart]

Protea Dispensary

[hard dove]

Crutch

[glass rampart]

Nah

[hard dove]

Sobek at least work on more frame plus have the bigger aoe

[glass rampart]

Energy economy and ammo

Oh you mean zarr

Eh I don't use the zarr that much

[fierce lark]

sobek with the clip delegation mod does ludicrous damage if you can aim

you can skip acid shells entirely and use it like a normal shotgun

[hard dove]

2-3 years ago any opinion against zarr is invalid
But well we're not in 2022

[glass rampart]

Tenet envoy supremacy

[fierce lark]

ammo got nerfed and then hunter munitions got gutted and now here we are

but it's still a goated crew weapon

[glass rampart]

Tenet envoy has way less amo problems

[fierce lark]

envoy is still great

i'll go farm one someday

actually i'll do that right now

[glass rampart]

Envoy is so good

I don't have kuva sobek yet

Waiting for shadowgrapher

(pronounced like photographer)

[pallid quiver]

So do ppl normally quick fire or charge fire the epitaph