builds-discussion

[old marsh]

Ye. That AOE explosion is small. Think bigger. Think 10m explosions

[queen current]

O.o? Lemme look

[old marsh]

Sobek has 15m explosions for reference

[queen current]

No

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-absolute-cinema-meme-martin-scorsese-meme-martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-gif-7188464701423971028

[queen current]

Not done the mission

[fierce lark]

im thinking tenet envoy xd

the latron has 4m explosions

[old marsh]

Envoy has 7 or 8 iirc

[deep grotto]

Just said they were doing Chains of Harrow dude

[fierce lark]

i thought chains of harrow was a warframe quest idk

[old marsh]

U never know. Players keep side quests for later

[deep grotto]

It’s a main quest too

[fierce lark]

i did all these quests years ago lol i don't remember what's required for what

[deep grotto]

You HAVE to do chains of harrow to progress main quests

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/ahoklollmao-of-course-ohhhh-oh-that-makes-sense-gif-11896286840118452668

[deep grotto]

It’s a prerequisite for the Sacrifice

[old marsh]

Honestly didn’t know it was

Thought it was a side quest. 😭

[fierce lark]

same, figured it was just the harrow unlock

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-crying-meme-doggo-crys-megan-soo-crying-dog-gif-5276199764143986284

Felt like yesterday when it was Rap Tap

[queen current]

Missions left to do:
Chains of Harrow
Apostasy Prologue
The Sacrifice
Prelude to War
Jade Shadows
Angels of the Zhariman
Whispers in the Walls
The Lotus Eaters
The Hex
The Old Peace

[old marsh]

Now I can’t even remember if it was a main quest

[fierce lark]

it is

[old marsh]

Exactly

https://tenor.com/view/jake-crying-gif-15896901980625544793

[queen current]

So what should i do?

[fierce lark]

as im sure anyone else will (and probably already has) tell you, do all the quests

all of them have some kind of content or equipment unlock that is worth getting, especially the later ones

in the mean time, if you kept your Broken War from the second dream, that will carry you through starchart

[queen current]

Broken War?

[old marsh]

Sword

[queen current]

O.o

I have broken Sceptor

Dont have broken sword?

[old marsh]

Not that. I can’t remember when u get broken war

[fierce lark]

it's from the second dream

if you have the broken scepter you should have the broken war, if not it means you sold it (which was a mistake)

don't sell quest weapons, ever

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/jake-crying-gif-15896901980625544793

[queen current]

I dunno. Dont remember doing second dream -_-

Mightve been long ago? Maybe?

[fierce lark]

all of the quest weapons are good, even if only at the time you get them (several of them are good into endgame), and they're a huge pain in the ass to get back

so it's not recommended to sell them

[queen current]

I dont remember 😭

[granite ginkgo]

the second dream? if u have access to operator mean u ady done it

the war within you get access to amp

[fierce lark]

it's the first quest where you meet your operator

if he has the scepter he's done war withn, which means he's done second dream

[old marsh]

The only stuff u should sell is Boltor, Mire, Fragor & Tonkor as their upgraded versions r available later. Nothing else u should sell

[fierce lark]

and you can sell the thornbak cause that thing is awful

[granite ginkgo]

honestly just kept all the quest "crafted" weapon untouch

and non prime to the MR fodder void

[queen current]

I have but havent fully unlocked amp.
I dont see a broken war so i dunno 😭 im stressin now cuz i cant remember

[granite ginkgo]

non prime, unvariant

[granite ginkgo]

do u own WAR? if u do that mean u use broken war as material

[old marsh]

I got it’s riven

[queen current]

War?

No?

[granite ginkgo]

it double hand sword, if that also no - u sold it

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/jake-crying-gif-15896901980625544793

[queen current]

I dont know it was 5 years or so ago!

[fierce lark]

broken sceptre is probably fine for now

[granite ginkgo]

the only way to own broken war back is to get drop from stalker

[old marsh]

Ye.

[fierce lark]

if you want you can screenshot the 'weapons' tab in your inventory

[granite ginkgo]

not to mention the part drop from setient

[fierce lark]

i thought broken war was from simaris

[spiral chasm]

xoris is better anyways

boom room dedge

[fierce lark]

oh you can buy bwar parts from simaris

[granite ginkgo]

true but need to own influence

[fierce lark]

bp has to drop from stalker yikes

[spiral chasm]

for base non influence is more than fine

[granite ginkgo]

i tho the part drop from setient tho, and part is tradeable

[old marsh]

I need Despair BP 😭

[queen current]

My weps

[granite ginkgo]

damn all MR fodder/trash

[queen current]

Ouch. That hurt

[old marsh]

DO NOT SELL FURIS. DO NOT AT ANY COST

[queen current]

Ok?

[granite ginkgo]

furis and despair got access to endgame external buff

aka incarnon

[queen current]

Oh?

[old marsh]

Keep Despair too. Has Incarnon

[main sparrow]

Hey

[queen current]

None of that makes sense to me but ok

[main sparrow]

Anyone have a occucor Build?

[granite ginkgo]

problem is u need to unlock steelpath to get this "external" buff

[old marsh]

Keep Dex Nikana and Fragor (for now till u get a better slam weapon)

[granite ginkgo]

it basically u equip another layer of arcane into weapon

[queen current]

Im trying -_-

[hard dove]

Damn bro got syam

Keep that as well

[queen current]

I love Syam for stealth. Wall hacks lmao

[old marsh]

Keep Syam and Dorrclave too. Annoying farms.

[fierce lark]

both are true

[granite ginkgo]

wont dorrclave ill get prime?

well syam obtainable from simaris anyway

[hard dove]

That won't be for another year or so

[fierce lark]

when dagath gets a prime sure

[hard dove]

Syam is infact not from simaris

[old marsh]

Till then gotta hold on to it

[hard dove]

Syam is from duviri

[granite ginkgo]

dagath should be this year no?

[fierce lark]

you can re-obtain duviri weapons from simaris

[granite ginkgo]

wait early next year

[crisp breach]

Citrine

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/mcmahon-crying-he-was-special-wwe-vince-mcmahon-gif-13313547165599993551

[fierce lark]

this year is citrine kullervo voruna styanax

[hard dove]

End of the year at least

Maybe early 2027

[fierce lark]

or should be anyway

[main sparrow]

@fierce lark Hey, would you have a occucor build?

[hard dove]

Which order is dagath again?

[granite ginkgo]

after voruna,citrine and styanax

[fierce lark]

https://overframe.gg/build/483134/ocucor/surging-tendrils-ocucor-sentient-surge/

[granite ginkgo]

it between voruna or citrine after gyre prime

[fierce lark]

dont have one of my own to share

[queen current]

So... everything except Syam, Dorrclave, Fragor, Furis, Despair, Dex, and Burston can be sold?

[hard dove]

Stya first

[granite ginkgo]

then kullervo or styanax

[queen current]

Oh and Broken Sceptor

[fierce lark]

have you read up on the kuva lich/sister of parvos system?

[queen current]

Nope

[granite ginkgo]

right dev doesnt follow FFMM anymore

[old marsh]

Burston u can sell coz u can grab Burston Prime from relics or just buy a full set for like 10-15 plat

[queen current]

I dont have it yet so i gotta keep it

[fierce lark]

i would suggest doing that, because you can get a lot of weapons that sail into endgame, though the process is long when you're new

[hard dove]

So it's probably stya > citrine > kullervo > voruna this year?

[queen current]

Getting Burston Prime?

[fierce lark]

learning how to do liches/sisters, burston prime is fine but until you get steel path it'll be mid at best

[queen current]

If so, where would i go? And what MR is it?

[fierce lark]

12

[queen current]

Then im back to square one and im lost once more. Too many moving parts and my brain isnt processing them

[queen current]

Then i cant even get it cuz im MR9 and not progressing -_-

[timber compass]

Khora prime builds?

[fierce lark]

that be how warfarme is

you could buy the Hek from the market and build that, i used that for a pretty long time

[queen current]

Hek. Oook. Way too much shit to process now.

Need salvage and circuits to craft Hek

[old marsh]

Forget everything we said. Just focus on what u have. Try different weapons and frames. See what’s comfortable for u

[queen current]

I came here for better understanding and now im deep in a hole -_-

[crisp breach]

Telos Boltor Build [Remove Serration Put riven or Hammer shot]

[queen current]

Way more info to worry about now. Ntm my MR isnt progressing at all

[old marsh]

Rank up the stuff u don’t have at rank 30

[main sparrow]

Thanks

[queen current]

Just put a post in squad lfg to see if anyonell aid int this

[velvet pulsar]

Styanax is next prime because we currently have 49 prime warframes

[compact cypress]

ah i see lol
was thinking of what adversary weapon to get next, any recommendations?

[queen current]

What is this

[main sparrow]

Ninjase's Saryn build is good? Like for weapons and smth

[compact cypress]

i think its those sniper guys on the plains?

[compact cypress]

the toxic lash platform build?

[queen current]

What do i do with it?

[compact cypress]

you sneak up to them either by shooting from a distance or using invis of some sort and heatshot kill 7 of them

then the riven will be for a random primary rifle weapon and can be really good sometimes

[main sparrow]

Idk, he has 4 different builds and really don't know which one make

[compact cypress]

do you want a miasma mid level nuke or a weapon platform

idk how good his miasma build is but i do know that this one works very well https://overframe.gg/build/226696/saryn-prime/lashing-venom-weapon-platform-saryn-easy-lazy-gate-strongest-weapon-buff/

[main sparrow]

If possible and the formas are compatible then both

[compact cypress]

i think you can run both

https://overframe.gg/build/207018/saryn-prime/venomous-spores-saryn-steel-path-general-use/

[compact cypress]

i use the active gate on this one and run more strength over vigilante vigor and fast deflect

[main sparrow]

I saw on guide it would work well with the occucor

[compact cypress]

works well on most weapons

[cold salmon]

not too sure which of the tenet weapons u already have, but i would recommend Arca Plasmor, Glaxion, Dual Diplos, Cycron, Agendus and Exec. The latter 2 can only be purchased from ergo glast

[compact cypress]

im probably going to get the diplos

[jade agate]

||Are there any aura mods that effect operator?||

[gaunt sapphire]

ohma good melee?

[cold salmon]

definitely not a popular choice of weapon, but looking at just its stats, it seems to be a decent candidate for Melee Influence (as it has innate electricity).
-# Tho nowadays almost any melee will be incredibly potent with Melee Influence 💀

[spark thorn]

This look worth anything?

[gaunt sapphire]

what about the variant of it

prisma ohma

[cold salmon]

i rarely see ppl use or talk about it (hence i deduced that its nt a popular weapon), and i have never invest into it myself, prisma variant just have slightly higher stats compared to base variant. But looking at the stats, it seems to be a pretty decent weapon, it has a set of good stats and innate electricity which works well with melee influence.

dont take my word for it, i have never used it, im just speaking gibberish from what i see 💀

[gaunt sapphire]

hrmmm.
ok well i just thoufht this looked interesting, ohma with the shoulder holster does this (found on twt)

[shadow wren]

anyone got a torid build for sp?

[severe bough]

https://overframe.gg/build/472389/

[cold salmon]

its definitely something good enough for late game content, and i actually gonna start investing into it since it looks like a intereting weapon 😄

[compact cypress]

as long as a melee can *use * influence it will always be viable atp

[kind compass]

What do I have to mod on a weapon to make influence viable?

Should I focus on base damage, crit chance/damage, status…?

[cold salmon]

condition overload + steel + organ shatter + fury/berserker fury + blood rush + weeping wound + 90% electric mod + elementalist are the standard, can be slightly modified on per weapon basis

[kind compass]

Alr thanks

[night laurel]

equip this riven on a rifle and use that rifle to kill 7 unalerted tusk ballistas with a headshot

well. not the rifle specifically. just use anything to kill

[cold salmon]

this woman is a tusk ballista, two of her usually roam around on the tower of those grineer camps scattered across the plains.

[queen current]

Got it!

Not sure how good it is but i have it now i suppose

[karmic badger]

Brutally honest? This has no sale value, most people use the trumna prime and that has terrible riven disposition

[queen current]

Welp

I dunno what to do with this now

[karmic badger]

I mean if you rolled some kuva into it and got like, crit chance, crit damage, with a harmless negative, maybe you could flip it for 100p

[queen current]

O.o?

[karmic badger]

Or just keep it for personal use..

The current stats are bad tho

Trumna can't have punch through, and corpus are already squishy. Reduced magazine hurts

[queen current]

I dunno what your talking about if im bein honest. Im fairly fresh as ive returned to the game after 5 year absence

But tbh im not worrying about selling anything till im at least MR16 and ive got a build im happy with. All else will wait so as i dont get further lost in everything. Im already suffering from data overload from earlier and trying to figure everything out.

[cold salmon]

if thats the case, its probably too soon for u to worry about riven, just keep it and forget about it for now.

[queen current]

Aye

[karmic badger]

Ye pretty much

I don't bother with rivens, too much gambling

[cold salmon]

There's this thing called riven disposition which affects how effective that mod is for that particular weapon, and its nt looking good for trumna atm, so just let it be.

maybe after a few update and by the time ur ready to dip into riven, the dispo will change for trumna for it to be viable

[queen current]

Im needing to build up my MR but its taking far too long and its drivin me nuts

[karmic badger]

Build frames

[queen current]

Im tryin

[karmic badger]

3 from a dojo, and like a dozen from the star chart

[queen current]

Got a few im working on

[cold salmon]

market has tons of weapon blueprints that can be bought with credits

[queen current]

Dunno what Star Chart is

[cold salmon]

and dojo as well

[queen current]

Is anything simple in this bloody game?

[cold salmon]

those planets u are killing stuffs on are what we referred as base star chart

[karmic badger]

Da map, da planets

Da weirdos we bonk for loot

[queen current]

-_-

Whys everything BESIDES those gotta be overly complicated?

Building MR is a drag and i dont see why it is.

Plus i cant tell what weaps ive already mastered once sold. So how will i know its new?

[karmic badger]

They'll have the words "mastered" under them

[cold salmon]

u can also open up ur profile, there shows all the weapons u have mastered

[queen current]

Oh?

[cold salmon]

mastered weapons will have a tiny icon beside them, something that looks like a wing made out of wheat (this is an extremley poor description lmao)

[karmic badger]

A laurel wreath

[cold salmon]

yes

wheat wing

[cold salmon]

yes those

wheat wings in profile

[queen current]

This is gonna take forever-_-

[karmic badger]

Wait you sold the xoris?

[queen current]

O.o? Dunno

Just got back to the game after 5 YEARS. Who knows what ive done

Jeez. Feel like i have to repeat that multiple times -_-

[cold salmon]

just a tip, before u sell any item, its best to check online if its anything worth keeping or just a MR fodder (something that u only rank up for the sole purpose of getting MR)

[queen current]

Ive already heard this a few hours ago. Had a whole lecture. Trust me, i get it. Tbf though this was from FIVE YEARS ago. I dunno what this was gonna be

Im getting tired repeating myself

[cold salmon]

no worries, not planning to start a lecture on u, and honestly dont worry about it, worse case scenario is just to do some farming to get it back once again

[queen current]

If i want to. May not pertain to a build i do thus nullifying the need for it

Yall act like i aim to have all the rare weapons or frames when i just wanna get a good build i enjoy and good gear. All else is secondary or unimportant to me. I like Rhino Prime, worked my rear off to craft him, now i just want to build my MR to 16 so i have everything i NEED and access to all the good mods. Other than that? I play to run around and have fun

I want to capitalize on Rhinos Overarmor skill and team buff while dishing out good damage. Im a tank/support with either a oneshot weap or a bullet hose. Either or will scratch the itch i have

Plus he looks cool so bonus points

Otherwise idc about rare gear or farming or anything. Thatll come with time

[torpid oar]

should i do this build? or is there a better one? i want to use in general use and prob in everything and dmg oc

[green gyro]

you can use narrow minded

and ice storm is useless

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1257631466955997307/1407680304982003752/IMG_1688.png?ex=68a6fbf2&is=68a5aa72&hm=afecb7124db09cfd353ca2bd59516300d6c84098f59b59f3d55cd9c643645d8b&

[torpid oar]

okay what do i use instead? and also how much dmg could it do?

like which one is stronger the one i sent or urs thoo

[green gyro]

mine

it's very minmaxed✅

hopefully that's not a trigger word for ppl here

[visual pagoda]

Hey guys what should I use for saryn like mods and gun perhaps

[night laurel]

ive heard of only good things regarding saryn and sobek acid shells

[cold salmon]

wanna point out that while saryn is not capable of proc-ing Arcane Ice Storm. If you have Melee Careen equipped on ur melee, u can proc Ice Storm, could be the reason why that build has ice storm on

[cold salmon]

and ive said only good things regarding saryn and sobek acid shells

a deadly combo indeed

[cold salmon]

but to address this properly, saryn make any weapon good, but notable ones are acid shell sobek and ocucor

[visual pagoda]

I'll get sobek cuz I don't have the nerves for fish

[cold salmon]

btw i meant kuva sobek, but i think normal sobek should also work (can someone confirm this?)

[visual pagoda]

Ik but I forgot how to summon the kuva lich

[cold salmon]

cassini saturn

capture target, walk around and wait till light flickers

start massacring

baby lich will spawn

check if baby lich drops sobek, if yes, send him to heaven, if not, extract and repeat

[night laurel]

lich baby will spawn as this dinky looking naked grineer, btw. Not a full blown lich

once you down the lich baby he'll have a weapon above his head

[torpid oar]

okay thx but i came across a new one and since i wanna do a saryn and ocucor build anyway how abt htis?

[cold salmon]

both works, hampter build has more raw power, but he's relying on active shieldgating to keep saryn alive.

this build has less raw power (still more than enough), but its relying on lazy shieldgating to keep saryn alive

[green gyro]

don't use energize on saryn

base sure footed is kinda cope

[cold salmon]

TLDR hampter's build is stronger but less qol

the other build is slightly weaker but more qol

[green gyro]

you'll still get knocked over constantly

[torpid oar]

idk what to use 😭

[green gyro]

are you using ocucor?

[torpid oar]

yes

[cold salmon]

and yes, no need for energized when ur lazy shieldgating

[green gyro]

with ocucor you don't even need primed sure footed

because fortifier is basically always up

you can run wyrm for safety iyw

and imo lazy gating is also kinda overrated if you're getting overguard constantly

you gate by shooting enemies and there's also barely ever anything alive to shoot you

[torpid oar]

soo wut to dO/ also what can i change instead of primed expel orokin and primed convulsion?

[astral tinsel]

if you want partial knockdown protection, handspring is better than base sure footed

[torpid oar]

im confused

[green gyro]

I've done maybe 15 levelcap runs with saryn ocucor and never died

[green gyro]

you can remove hornet strike and bane and convulsion

I sent the optimal ocucor build in the pic, just slot pathogen rounds over the riven

[torpid oar]

wdym?

[green gyro]

also irradiate is extremely useless because ocucor has chaining beams already lol

like it essentially does nothing

and has terrible single target performance vs fortifier

[torpid oar]

okay ig ill try it but could u tell me how much dmg it can do or how much it can kill? its jsut im hesitate bcus im broke and dont have alot to give

[green gyro]

with fortifier you can kill levelcap thrax in less than a second

it's literally some of the most op shit in the game

[cold salmon]

u dont have to worry about damage

[green gyro]

no aim required either

[cold salmon]

its definitely more than u need

[torpid oar]

okay ill try ur build, tysm

[green gyro]

I have a clip somewhere

[cold salmon]

in fact, more than anyone will ever need

[green gyro]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1225179052248141824/1409164576703909959/ScreenRecording_08-24-2025_15-02-44_1.mov?ex=697c0688&is=697ab508&hm=0f6c46eced7ac2a4a8f6a9982cd335ed26a1e0dcef40f64055b9a1018f15cb54&

[coral plank]

Guys how many range do I need for Icy Avalanche?

[green gyro]

this is levelcap btw

there no tankier enemies in the game really

[torpid oar]

with ocucor? tha's aweseomeee

[green gyro]

yeah it's what happens when you minmax a build

very satisfying to see how all the small improvements add up

[cold salmon]

positive range is enough, u can cast it repeatedly anyway

[night laurel]

good philosophy for life

[green gyro]

also why I think it's silly that ppl claim it ruins the fun, the dopamine hit from figuring out the puzzle and then just deleting everything is way bigger

[torpid oar]

okay now the thing is i only got 30p, i dont have max molt augmented and arcane precision 🙁 soo how do i make plat

[green gyro]

optimising builds is really fun, it just takes a bit longer

[chrome plinth]

any suggestion for Vauban Prime build that is good for SP?

[green gyro]

relics

do you have Aya? I can buy

I think current resurgence is 6:30?

so 5p per aya

[torpid oar]

rn im farming for khora because i just need her neur

and ill have her set then ill head to nekros

[green gyro]

fair

[torpid oar]

in a bit ill farm again

[green gyro]

I think precision is still very cheap

kinda tragic to see how the prices just fell to nothing

as an eidolon hunter

[torpid oar]

75p

molt augmented is 50p

anyone got a spare brief respite tho?

[green gyro]

yeah I have

[green gyro]

corrosive projection would be better if you don't have the full dmg setup btw

you just need some form of shieldgate gen

ie an augur mod on sentinel

[torpid oar]

that is the archon shards?

ill prob do it but will be missing endo and the archon shards

[green gyro]

the archon shards do quite a lot

but for early/mid game it should be ok without

[torpid oar]

will it be ok if i runned sp?

or sp circuit? if their level 1k

[green gyro]

circuit is fine cause decrees give you 1 bajillion damage

for circuit I'd recommend running operator only tho

especially with the new tektolyst mods

[green gyro]

yeah base steel path is still ez

[torpid oar]

i cant apply them yet bcus i didnt get the tau abilities yet

[prime lava]

can someone give me a corinth prime build

[glass rampart]

for a weapons platform gyre, what helminth would be optimal that isnt Roar. Im looking at Nourish rn

[glass rampart]

what even counts as "base" steel path

[night laurel]

100, 120, 140?

[green gyro]

non endurance missions

[glass rampart]

like is Survival non base steel path?

[green gyro]

if u stay for hours sure

no one rly does that tho

survival scales extremely slowly

generally ppl mean cascade or disruption cause those go to levelcap in around an hour or less

[glass rampart]

level cap sounds like a nightmare

i rather not do level cap tbh

i have builds good enough for like level 500 enemies

[chrome plinth]

any build suggestions for Vauban Prime?

[compact cypress]

then thats more than enough

unless you actively do levelcap runs theres NO reason to have a build that can do levelcap

as long as its viable in whatever the highest base content is (ETA/EDA) its fine

[glass rampart]

wait til his rework

[charred gale]

he plays mostly the same, it wasnt rly a big rework more of a quality of life update for his kit

[drowsy herald]

can someone help me with this arca titron slam build?i just need it for acolytes. its not really performing well

[compact cypress]

isnt running pure elec better?

[compact cypress]

id put shocking touch over fever strike and either focus energy or voltaic strike

[drowsy herald]

a lot of the builds ive seen suggest gas goes well with it

[astral tinsel]

it's better to boost the electric procs imo

[charred gale]

i dont rly see how ngl

[astral tinsel]

more damage on isolated targets and crowds should get annihilated anyway

[charred gale]

yeah huge dmg boost

[charred gale]

killing blow is also kinda useless cause the u dont wind up a slam

and its additive dmg to pressure point

[astral tinsel]

and slam capacitor

[midnight horizon]

hey guys, is there a channel with builds?

[astral tinsel]

this one

[drowsy herald]

i just added a shocking touch in place of killing blow

should i add gladiator might for the crit dmg?

[astral tinsel]

organ shatter before that

[drowsy herald]

something like this?

[chrome plinth]

any aura mod recommendations for Khora Prime?

[hard dove]

Brief respite

[chrome plinth]

tyyy

also how do I build ember prime as weapon platform?

[astral tinsel]

fireball frenzy

stack up strength through your passive, cast fireball frenzy

then cry when you realise heat inherit is cutting your dps in half

[chrome plinth]

okkk thanks for the help

[latent adder]

I do this https://overframe.gg/build/309617/ember-prime/general-use-weapon-platform-ember-steel-path-nourish-and-other-options/

Nourish or roar or shock over 2

Just use raw dmg weapons

[chrome plinth]

okkk thanks I have more options to build ember prime now 😄

[lavish depot]

im trying to nuke with sevagoth but i may not be understanding the mechanics of it. do i cast sow and then immediately cast reap? do any of those two abilities need a line of sight? i gotta be doing something wrong

[hoary oak]

Is grimoire good?

[astral tinsel]

as a utility weapon

[severe bough]

u cast sow and then reap use both augments so sow spreads from itself and that u got 3 shadwos instead of one and repeat that u should def use roar and thats basically it

Everything should just die

[thorn gyro]

Anybody who has some feedback to this Xaku build, i have shade as companion, grimoire with strenght and madurai for strength?

[silent trout]

keep old im guessing?

[silent trout]

you can ditch the rolling guard for a equilibrium, have aegis instead of energize and have 2 augur mods on ur primer (i use epitaph). this lets u get around 270 shields everytime u use 4th ability which is better than rolling guard

[opal tree]

What are the best augments for sevagoth?

[thorn gyro]

i have this with 4 blue energy shards and 1 red strength shard

[scarlet mason]

Does [sinister reach] +12m beam range work on tazicor? From my testing its not working

[opal tree]

Thanks

[glass rampart]

I wish people would play sevagoth as an exalted frame more :sadge:

[thorn gyro]

i have not tried since the exalted rework, it looks fun but why doing while you dont need it and have a nuke frame

[scarlet mason]

Just checked on wiki. It doesn't work

[glass rampart]

Different and intended play style

Rather than just nuking 1 and 2 and relegating shadow to nothingness

Maybe use gloom from time to time if energy econ allows it

I like exalted shadow

[thorn gyro]

i have 4 blue shards for energy so i m quiet invested in the roar build

[glass rampart]

If the abilities can be a little better it would be really good

Like idk i don't like the nuke build even if it's effective

[plain drum]

the slam force procs electric but the gas proc is inconsistent unless you have 100%+ status chance

if you want influence gas atp its just better to play dual viciss

[glass rampart]

Sevagoth's whole thing is exalted shadow so if I use a nuke build it kinda defeats the point of the frame's design

[thorn gyro]

i can see that its gets boring from time to time

[glass rampart]

And backstory

[plain drum]

unfortunately it is the optimal build, ig you can run a melee influence build with the shado or smth

[glass rampart]

I think shadow is optimal too it's just a different play style

Yeah nuke is better but shadow builds still work

[plain drum]

i wonder if sevagoth gets helminth'd (outside of his 4), would he get the helminth'd ability on his shadow too

[thorn gyro]

m looking at it right now but you need to build the shadow form and the exalted claws

[plain drum]

you do

would be nice if sevagoth's shadow claws did something other than just being a regular melee weapon

[hexed lodge]

Why not nuking and shadow? js

[plain drum]

they should make shadow's 3 inflict sow and make his melees detonate it

[glass rampart]

His shadow's abilities are kinda mid tbh

[glass rampart]

New bandaid augment just dropped

[plain drum]

technically dark prop already does that but shadow has no way to detonate it iirc

[glass rampart]

Marking an enemy with his 3 then meleeing them detonates the enemy as if they had 10 blast procs!!!

Also like it has the range of an entire room for some reason

:DDD

[plain drum]

maybe make his 1 a channel or whatever idk man

make shadow do something other than being a worse valkyr

[glass rampart]

let us subsume wrathful advance on the shadow and the shadow alone

[hexed lodge]

It's 2 and 3 yea are bad, 3 is good if you're running double augment + roar.
But 1? my goat

[plain drum]

his 2 is great for persistence tanking which valkyr can already do, his 1 is grouping which valkyr ALSO does and his 3 gives damage vuln which valkyr DOES TOO

he doesnt even have a proper 4

maybe give shadow a 4th ability, tap to cast, hold to return to sevagoth

[glass rampart]

Monkey paw curls

His 4 is now a melee weapon speed buff that grants armour

[plain drum]

jus give the mf a way to detonate sow and we good

[restive swan]

Least it has good grouping and damage but yeah could use some more spice for its other abilities

[opal tree]

Should i go for crit or status for the laetum?

[kind compass]

I feel like the laetum is weird given how its last evolution gives it up to 3 stacks of +400% damage for each hit that doesn’t crit or proc status

But at the same time with my build that runs decent crit and status it’s a beast so it’s weird

So it’s a conflict i’m not sure how to resolve

[steady epoch]

should i replace Primed Target Cracker with this or run both?

[eternal prism]

sancti magistr or magistr for slam build?

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/aww-hell-nahh-aww-hell-aww-hell-nahh-gif-9659330954843262630

[old marsh]

Magistar

[velvet pulsar]

Not sancti

[old marsh]

both slap hard but Magistar has better incarnon stats

[steady epoch]

so... run both? lol

[old marsh]

Ye

CD in this game is arguably the hardest stat to get. U can get CC, SC, Multishot, Fire rate and all that stuff from frames. But not Crit Dmg

[steady epoch]

truth

[night laurel]

I was gonna feed Cyte to the helminth but he's growing on me.. you want range and strength if you're using him as a gun platform?

[green gyro]

not on melees tho

like in this case you'd slot over scorch yes

but for heavy attack melees you want cc dmg not cc cd

[lavish depot]

how much ability strenght should i have? i took him to sp circuit and he fell short not too many rounds in. im currently at 154% strenght with over 250% range

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-silence-heretic-blood-angel-space-marine-2-execution-gif-15009652097098642778

[eternal prism]

thanks
can u give me pls any build for slam? for level cap
I looked at a lot of different ones, but they are so different

[severe bough]

U need 255 str with roar to one shot cap enemys also u can def go lower range due his augments

[lavish orbit]

Viral also help a lot

[violet delta]

what should i choose for selling it?

[old marsh]

u can replace riven with either a smite mod or Corrupt Charge (gives +30 CC that pairs with Incarnon stat to give u a total of 8 IC)

[old marsh]

left but dont bother rolling. low dispo

[hexed lodge]

Did someone make a sevagoth video or smtn recently? i have seen a lot of conversation about him recently in here and other servers

[atomic talon]

would it be a good idea to subsume off caliban's 4?

or maybe his 2?

[mellow palm]

Kullervo main who

Anyway, as long as his recompense still active with his volatile recompense augment, he couldn't die due to 0.5s of invulnerability from overguard breaking? Using persistence will also give him 2 seconds of breathing room in case recompense doesn't regenerate on time?

[white lodge]

How do you make Nyx tanky?

Never played her before but heard she has real tank potential

[pallid quiver]

press 4

[white lodge]

Nothing more than that?

[pallid quiver]

nyx's 4 makes her invulnerable for quite a while

[white lodge]

Ahh right, well having to use her for TDA

and the debuffs are.. not too great on duration

[late hemlock]

you need the assimilate augment

otherwise its pretty braindead

[velvet pulsar]

https://youtu.be/ax_ce7Qcwtw

So apparently Summoner's Wrath and Theorem Infection uses the same list.

[white lodge]

If the effect of TDA is 75% dur is the assimlate better then?

[late hemlock]

assimilate is what makes the 4th the great ability that it is

it allows you to become invulnerable to damage while being able to use guns and melee + revive + interact with objectives

[white lodge]

gootcha

[trail parrot]

I'm a saryn player looking to finally after years branch out to other frames. Was looking at hildryn. I usually run zenruik. I know she doesn't use energy. So if I am using zenruik and get energy, will I get shields on her?

[white lodge]

I think energy regen becomes shield regen

[velvet pulsar]

nope

[velvet pulsar]

only energy orbs become shields

[late hemlock]

#1465824523956916346 just talked about it there earlier

you do not benefit from any energy related things when it comes to hildryn no

[velvet pulsar]

zenurik does affect energy orb effectiveness I think

so maybe it could give very little benefit

not worth it

[teal holly]

But what about Taurons? Zenurik's Str/Dur buff is fairly nice if it still applies to Hildryn.

[late hemlock]

honestly i dont think its even worth going out of your 4 to use a tauron strike lmao

im just using madurai because it makes the operator so much stronger but you can run anything ig

[eternal prism]

if u use blood rush how u support a 12x combo or slightly less

There's no crescendo here. Or is this a build for kullervo?

[old marsh]

u dont. u stay x8 CC which is like +280% CC, which is more than enough to hit orange crits consistently. and even red crits sometimes.

[old marsh]

Crescendo is a good choice for lvl cap runs so u stay at x12 combo for hours. can even drop any inital combo mods

if u use Kullervo then it gets even crazier. consistent red crits

at that point just throw in as much CD u can at it. shards and gladiator might

[late hemlock]

staying at 12x combo now is kinda really easy with archgun arcanes tbf

so depends on what you are doing with combo

[old marsh]

this is for slam so x8 is where it can stay.

[late hemlock]

oh for heavy spam then

[old marsh]

Rauta exists so there is that lol

we need a new meta slam weapon. Magistar is too good.

[late hemlock]

afflictions with mire and dark sword is pretty stupid

[old marsh]

Dark Sword/coda Mire r there too

[late hemlock]

you can get damage cap DOTs

doesnt get any better

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/more-kylo-ren-adam-driver-screaming-star-wars-gif-17734637

thakfully i had a Dark Sword riven for years

[crimson osprey]

So ive done the elite archimedian deep dive activity with thst voruna

[pallid quiver]

are there specific element combinations ppl prefer to use with lavos?

[old marsh]

ez dmg cap numbers

[pallid quiver]

i have no clue what im doing with him its just random bullshit go

[crimson osprey]

Its not level cap. But I was 1 shotting everything with her 4 at the 10 or 13 combo count I forget what it is. Impressive

[old marsh]

ye. she hits like a truck once u know how to play her

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/mcmahon-crying-he-was-special-wwe-vince-mcmahon-gif-13313547165599993551

also i hate playing Lavos

only when i am forced to play him in EDA/ETA

[eternal prism]

I used this one for testing but I haven't seen more than 6. Am I missing something?

[crimson osprey]

I kind of dig it. I heard they were debating on making her 4 an exalted moddable thing

[old marsh]

corrupt charge that i suggested

[late hemlock]

just making sure but are you using nira mods?

[old marsh]

hopefully

[crimson osprey]

Like abaruuk situation

[eternal prism]

nope but its not give combo. isnt?

[crimson osprey]

Or atlas ash i suppose

[late hemlock]

they give HUGE slam damage and are a MUST run

the increase is ludicrous

[old marsh]

u should. its non-negotiable. 2 nira mods on your warframe build

[eternal prism]

But the question is not about damage, but about the combo

[late hemlock]

one is with nira one is without nira, look at heavy slam damage

[old marsh]

CORRUPT CHARGE LIKE I SAID BEFORE. Third time I am mentioning it

[late hemlock]

not running the 2 nira mods is giga nerfing your build regardless of combo

[eternal prism]

Yes, I saw that. I just replied that the person wrote about damage, not combo

thanks

[old marsh]

Oh ok thought u ignored it 😭

[old marsh]

Me one tapping everyone in EDA without one ever since it’s launch I only got Magistar exactly once.

https://tenor.com/view/jake-crying-gif-15896901980625544793

[late hemlock]

bigger number more fun

oneshotting with a bigger number is better

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/stan-twt-evil-chihuahua-twt-memes-dog-gif-2124557923355771903

[eternal prism]

I just don't even know what to replace in the build on gyra anyway. I literally can't replace anything. Otherwise, I'll have to add two shards that I don't want to add

[late hemlock]

one of them is an exilus mod so its very easy to slot in

at least run one

[old marsh]

What he said

[eternal prism]

then Ill have to give up firecrackers like ogris :(

anyway i test it

[compact cypress]

what progen would you guys recommend for the kuva ogris

[late hemlock]

heat benefits the DOT augment iirc

[compact cypress]

alr ty ty

[gaunt sapphire]

arcane persistence on oberon?

ideally itd be a phoenix renewal hp armor tank

hallowed ground gets rid of the weakness in persistence aswell i think

[glass rampart]

I did jt

Not on my pc right now but this is my persistence oberon build with arcane blessing too

Ideally you want something other than steel charge but I didn't put in the forma...

OH WAIT THATS THE WRONG BUILD

This is the right one

[gaunt sapphire]

arcane guardian arcane persistence steel fiber archon shards and primary bulwark 🤤

[glass rampart]

Too much armor

[gaunt sapphire]

i like this actually

[glass rampart]

Vitality with blessing so I can get more armour

It's not bad but definitely can be improved

[velvet pulsar]

https://youtu.be/WLrmVNZAiR4?si=6nKR8OhwLqa4qXCD

Enjoy health tank on almost any warframe!

Eximus won't bother u either.

[velvet pulsar]

@mighty flare I think you were curious about Well of Life so here it is.

[restive swan]

By God

Banshee finally stands a chance!

[gaunt sapphire]

which weapons can use melee vortex

i saw ninjase on a build guide for the spinnerex talk about vortex instead of afflictions

[velvet pulsar]

Any with good status chance

[eternal prism]

should it tanky level cap? i swap nullifier -> arcane circumvent (gyra, 2nd skill pillage)

[gaunt sapphire]

im not very good at making melee builds but heres something i tried, ignore vortex rank

[gaunt sapphire]

this is the spinnerex

[fierce lark]

i would drop berserker fury for a cold mod to make viral, magnetic rush is giving some attack speed already

weapon has over 200% status with weeping stacked, shouldn't have trouble applying mag

i will say i wouldn't run an unranked vortex, pretty sure the grouping range scales with rank

oh it doesn't, the chance to trigger is what scales

if you're rank 4+ with cavia and have any leftover standing you can buy more

[gaunt sapphire]

yeah it doesnt matter THAT much but i may or may not have sold my only ranked vortex cuz i thought i had another

this game has caused irreversible mental impairment to the jello in my skull

[late hemlock]

i think its neat that well of life has a use but in practice id rather just use gloom tbf

[late hemlock]

meant to tag this

[velvet pulsar]

Gloom won't give u status immunity
You'll have to either bring that from kit, or outsource it via Wyrm prime, arcane nullifier, invigoration, etc.

But if a frame already has status immunity, then gloom definitely is a lot more comfortable

[late hemlock]

i guess if you get magnetic proc'ed and instadie, but gloom slows down enemies to a funny degree so your damage intake is much lower as well, on top of lifesteal being enough to heal you to full with any tick of damage

can see the upside with well of life here i just dont think id swap over

[velvet pulsar]

Gloom has free mobility.

Well of Life will loosely restrict you to stand between required active well zones all the time and to keep duration expiration in check.

I still would use Well of Life over gloom in cases of frames who don't have status immunity

Also regarding gloom nekros, Well of Life does challenge it considering you can just damage the well to heal the summons.

Though if u have vazarin it doesn't matter

[late hemlock]

i do think that if you are going for maybe levelcap then sure because a status proc gets you killed REAL fast, but in just steel path content you can heal through magnetic by just attacking with gloom in my experience

[velvet pulsar]

Either way, considering ETA/EDA content, both don't really limit their potential to what weapons u take.

Also WoL gets the advantage of being able to proc Archon Intensify

[brave cloak]

Anyone know which version of Gollum is worth building yet? It's kind of important to me.

[late hemlock]

gollum with the one ring is probably the best one

[glass rampart]

Pre one ring Gollum is better

[late hemlock]

no invis

[glass rampart]

Yeah but one ring Gollum has minus cha and int

And also has the sauron debuff

[glass rampart]

I saw this Ivara build using well of life to trigger her bow augment on headshots to kill entire rooms... It was amusing

[brave cloak]

... Oh! Oh, whoops! I thought this was the Summoner's War channel. Ah frig...

[indigo oriole]

Is teriffy a good subsume option over pillage for Nova. As it needs less strength and they will be too slow to run away.

[late hemlock]

nova wants duration over range, which actually also applies to pillage, so they synergize much better

you want to be using narrow minded so trying to use terrify over pillage doesnt seem worth the payout

[indigo oriole]

But to fully strip the armour with pillage it takes over 300% strength or is this not necessary?

And what about arcane hot shot? Does it work on her

[latent adder]

Hotshot works

U dont need to full strip in one cast

[vestal lintel]

Whats the best companion and mods for survivability? Prime and none prime would be good.

[latent adder]

Its nice but not necessary

[late hemlock]

fully stripping is not needed after recent ish updates

pillage is just going to work on a larger range for you while also restoring shields and cleansing status effects

[latent adder]

Wyrm prime with negate or panzer with martyr symbiosis + momentous bond

If you're using a full caster also huras kubrow or shade

[fierce lark]

if you want to full strip with pillaje it's 328% strength with corro proj

[vestal lintel]

Hm ok thanks.

[tired pebble]

Anyone got a tenet flux rifle,debilitate build?

[trim hill]

What's the best frame to speed up IsoVaults? Specifically, Lloid's little shindig across the dungeon

[fierce lark]

i would assume volt/loki/nova for the same reasons as cetus

though if you don't know exactly where his next destination is you could probably sabotage yourself with teleports

[glass rampart]

God I don't miss iso vaults...

[fierce lark]

i used to do t3 vaults for my mother tokens

it was not a good idea

[trim hill]

I tend to run Octavia, but she doesn't speed anything up, just makes everything really easy. Looking to shake it up a bit and get it done quicker

[fierce lark]

i see no reason why volt speed wouldn't work on otak & loid as it does on the hacked drone

[trim hill]

I will definitely try. If not, quick-switch Loki has got to be the answer

[steep furnace]

is this the ultimate build ?? inf damage

[vestal lintel]

inf damage no ammo :(

[trim hill]

Ammo drum slotted? OP

[steep furnace]

i just equipped the arcane and it said inf damage lol

[fierce lark]

acceltra is one of the only guns where it actually makes a difference lol

[severe bough]

Visuell bug

Because not in a mission

[fierce lark]

yeah overcharge doesn't list its capped multishot in the stats but the game understands that it gives multishot

[severe bough]

U have unlimited energy

[indigo oriole]

Thanks a lot guys

[steep furnace]

if i use hildryin will my shields count as energy

[late hemlock]

no

[novel robin]

woo! just finished my archon segment. My Temple is now up to 260% ability strength.

I am very proud of the build I have made up for them

Love Temple, Love Flare, Love Lizzie. 10/10

[trim hill]

You need some casting speed on there so you can truly spam rock n roll 👀🤘

[novel robin]

I thought about that, but Im not spamming if I am stuck playing on beat

[trim hill]

I find casting speed helps for Temple's 2, to make it more easily hit every beat instead of every other beat

And to not stay stuck in a jam session casting 3

[novel robin]

see, I think wailing on the guitar mid fight is hysterical. But I do see your point

I find that I use 1 for spam over 2 tbh

[trim hill]

I subsumed the 1 off, meself. But guitar solo midfight is a totally valid opinion, lol

I use uhhhh Sentient Wrath over 1

[novel robin]

interesting, I like it. my normal combo is 3 > 2 > 1 > 1 > 1 etc until lizzie is full

[trim hill]

With Impetus, at the start, my combo is 3 > 4 > spam all my Lizzie elements > recast 4 > 22222
I use Sentient Wrath when I need enemies to be hard CC'd and so I can get some extra dmg

[novel robin]

thats actually what I use my 1 for as well. Do you still get backbeat enery benefits with subsumed abilities?

[trim hill]

You sure do

[novel robin]

👀 I like it

[trim hill]

And the 2 is spammable enough to keep Ripper's Wail topped up

I also tried an orb-spam build running Lycath's Hunt/Fractured Blast, but I didn't care for the "theme" of them. Sentient Wrath still feels "fiery" enough to stay in-theme for me, lol

[fierce lark]

should swap amar's hatred with redirection or vitality since they cost more

also im pretty sure none of lizzie's interactions count as "reloading" so i dont think arcane rise works

try arcane acceleration

[novel robin]

great catch ty

[fierce lark]

or the headshot one, rage i think

[novel robin]

I don't have arcane acceleration but I have primary deadhead

[fierce lark]

deadhead and crux are probably both fine, lizzie enjoys status chance

im running blast toxin with archon continuity & primary blight

[novel robin]

admittedly, I have arcane Rise because its the only arcane I have besides Impetus that is rank 3+

[trim hill]

That's the same setup I run, yup. Not because I copied your build one-for-one or anything...

[fierce lark]

lmao

tbf i copied the weapon from ninjase, blast toxin is a unique idea, and mostly works because of ripper's wail granting separate non-combining heat

[trim hill]

To be clear, I did at first, but my final build diverged quite a bit

[fierce lark]

i think most people just slap a normal-ish heat build on it

the frame build is me egoing the assumption i won't need any survivability because everything dies fast enough

(and because you can backbeat wail for like 7s of immunity)

[trim hill]

See, 7s is too short for me. I built Temple as a health tank on top of the already really good survivability, lol

[novel robin]

the classic: kill it before it kills me.

[fierce lark]

works for most things

but honestly, Arcane Circumvent solo carries survivability on traditionally squishy frames nowadays, up to levels in the high hundreds

i took a fresh crafted ivara with no potato or anything and a tenet cycron that i was leveling into a sp cascade fissure, and went up to lvl 800 before the team stopped, never once had any issues with surviving

10k overguard lasts awhile especially if you can kill things quickly, and even moreso if you have a weapon doing aoe heat damage as heat status has a stunning effect attached

same with electric

any time you see an eximus press roll

add rolling guard to protect your new overguard for 3s, while also stripping half of whoever you run into

add melee careen to your melee weapon so your rolls will fully freeze anything you roll through (while also making them take more damage)

circumvent+careen+rolling guard is my favorite omni-frame survival package that works everywhere other than levelcap runs

and lol @ DE adding a utility melee arcane to praedos

[plain swan]

anything i should change on my grendel build?

[fierce lark]

wouldn't run adaptation and persistence together

[plain swan]

fr?

how does that work?

[deep grotto]

What's the ideal stats for a Pathocyst riven?

[fierce lark]

adaptation reduces the amount of damage you can take, persistence puts a hard cap on it

if persistence is working, that means adaptation is doing nothing

if adaptation is helpful, that means persistence is doing nothing

given the sheer amount of armor grendel generates between gourmand and umbral fiber, i doubt you're ever hitting the damage taken requirement for persistence anyways outside of levelcap runs or like, rawdogging a 500+ blitz eximus

[plain swan]

Ah i see so i should only run persistence if i plan on doing lvlcap/ endurance?

[fierce lark]

that's been my stance on it since day 1

i dont even hate the triumbral setup on grendel, but i think persistence is an unnecessary addition

but i mean, you can run without it and see if you still find yourself dying to large bursts of damage, and in the case that you are, put it back on

[plain swan]

Damn didnt know thats how itd work

[plain swan]

Yeah doing that for uh primary bulwark setup

[fierce lark]

thats fair, bulwark is ridiculous if you can maintain it

[late hemlock]

Persistence is basically the alternative option to just not using any form of DR (like extremely high armor, DR abilities or mods) when health tanking as it effectively replaces it

Stacking both is kind of redundant

[fierce lark]

also if you have primed cont you don't need archon, regurgitate already fullstrips

[plain swan]

I do its just no upgraded lol, so replacing Persistence with augmented should be fine yeah?

[fierce lark]

ye

[latent adder]

I would just run persistence always

[plain swan]

Was wondering why i was taking dmg in a netracell with all my armor lol

[latent adder]

You're more likely to have accidental oneshots without and you save mod slot cuz no need to adaptation

Grendel is a perfect persistence frame too cuz he has 2 heals that surpass 500hp/s with status immunity and huge stats

With normal tanking I've been oneshot randomly by stuff in just regular lvls eg jade eximus, some acolytes, sentients

Its just an arcane slot anyway, what's 60% str doing for grendel

[fierce lark]

what would go in the spare mod slot? hearty nourishment?

[latent adder]

Yup

Status immunity

Also knockdown immunity

[plain swan]

Oh awesome, time forma my boy again i suppose

[fierce lark]

acceleration if it's a bulwark platform

[fierce lark]

oh yeah i was very confused about this earlier

does persistence actually disable DR? or does it apply afterwards?

[plain swan]

Does that work if my shotgun has semi shotgun cannonade? Oh nvm just read the whole thing lol

[latent adder]

It just applies after

[fierce lark]

no lol

[latent adder]

If you take 2dmg/s its gonna be doing nothing

But DR won't reduce the 500hp/s loss down

It doesn't disable the DR from armor or adaptation

[fierce lark]

i had a light fit earlier because i thought for some reason (mostly from conversations when the arcane was new) that it completely disabled DR and just made you take intended damage values but limited said damage to 500/s

which would be very annoying for when damage wouldn't normally reach persistence limit but you still have to maintain the same amount of healing

[frozen grail]

what are some go to primaries/ melees that you guys use for high end acolyte nuking? i know any non status weapon usually works but what are some notable go tos?

[indigo oriole]

Is this any good? I find duration a bit of a problem at the start but once there are lot of enemies it’s ok

[steep furnace]

10K PLATTT????

[south harness]

cooking? helminthless rolling build that im planning to use with primary bulwark

[indigo oriole]

Its not traded

[eternal prism]

not a lot🥲

[eternal prism]

u can flex with shards

[indigo oriole]

Ok thanks

[vocal sierra]

So I’m using Broken War right now, but I’m struggling to do damage to level 30+ any advice on how to mod it?

[indigo oriole]

I switched out the parlour with power strength. Im too lazy to move around

[late hemlock]

getting your hands on the combo mods is a very easy way to increase your damage, look into blood rush and weeping wounds for a start

also generally if you are running true steel for crit chance you want organ shatter for crit damage

[vocal sierra]

Okay, thanks 😊

[radiant vigil]

i need excalibur prime build please, or vauban or frost prime, i have this, prefer first, i no play since 2013 xD im back today

[paper lion]

look for a riven mod for the weapon. if you have platinum you can get primed pressure point and use Valkrye for 300% more melee damage

[fierce lark]

first step would be equipping a stance

i dont actually know what the numbers are on stanceless combos but i would imagine stances are a lot better

on top of stances giving you 10 free mod capacity

[deep grotto]

What’s the ideal stats for a Pathocyst riven? Ive been thinking of rolling the riv i have

[fierce lark]

dmg/sc/cd/elec, probably

beware the terrible disposition tho

[old marsh]

anyone here ever tried Rift Strike on Twin Basolk and how it performs. we have to make a heavy stk spam build for it i guess. or just use discipline's merit

so apparently its just useless coz Amar's set exists. oh well

[deep grotto]

Whay

[old marsh]

lol

[deep grotto]

Did you think I was talking about the Coda 😭

[old marsh]

thats usually the default players go for

[deep grotto]

Regular Pathocyst is solid in my book

So im using it :D

I also already had it so yk

[old marsh]

i have a Pathocyst riven but i aint using it on Coda version. not worth the dispo imo

[deep grotto]

Yeah
Hence why im asking
The coda’s dispo is so atrocious that it’s not really worth it

[old marsh]

i mean. not super bad. i can slot it by replacing PPP but kinda.....eh

[old marsh]

but lets say u wanna go for it. crit dmg is what u really want. 2nd one is flex

[fierce lark]

any combination of dmg elec sc cc cd ic is probably fine

[old marsh]

CC, DMG or even electric

what he said

[fierce lark]

just know that it's missing the 60% elec from progenitor bonus so you probably really want elec on the riven

[old marsh]

u need to make the electric weighting higher for the explosions

[deep grotto]

Is this a melee influence thing

[old marsh]

ye

[deep grotto]

I don’t have it

[teal haven]

hey i have a question so im useing a devastating void build for the feralax a devouring attrition build for laetum and a devouring void for phenmor they say the 2k% increased dmg is on non crit hits so just making sure this means i should not run these alongside like crit weapoon platform builds like arcane hot shot uriel right? as that would negate their dmg right?

[deep grotto]

I don’t really want to have Melee Influence either
Not unless I have a weapon with innate electricity

[old marsh]

then u dont have to use electric for now. but really helps with the nuking potential of glaives

[deep grotto]

Ehh

I don’t care for influence much

[old marsh]

either way. pick crit dmg first. 2nd one is flex

[deep grotto]

👍

[fierce lark]

if you aren't using influence then remove elec from the suggestion and mod for w/e you want

part of what makes pathocyst so insanely strong though is influence aoe viral priming

if you can move the weighting enough towards elec then getting a force viral proc + high chance of elec proc with influence is like

ridiculous amounts of room nuke

[deep grotto]

Hmhm

[old marsh]

i like how Jat Kittag being a slam weapon is also a victim of Melee Influence and here i was looking for a slam build

[fathom sky]

Influence is just too good of a generic Arcane

[deep grotto]

Well i’ll keep that in mind at least
Then again it’s not gonna be the fabled “Melee Prime” since i don’t think that fits with glaives well

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-crying-meme-doggo-crys-megan-soo-crying-dog-gif-5276199764143986284

[fierce lark]

i ran tox influence but im also only ever using the jet hammer on saryn

[fierce lark]

no lol that does not work with glaives

[deep grotto]

Glorious

[fierce lark]

there's like 3 different variations of the same glaive build

one for xoris/falcor bc they have forced elec, one for patho/halikar because they have innates that work with influence but need to mod more sc/elec weighting, and one for glaive because it doesn't work with influence

[deep grotto]

Glaives being goated as usual

[old marsh]

pretty much

[deep grotto]

Glaive lore

[fierce lark]

this is a pretty funny one

[deep grotto]

Random nitpick but Xoris feels like the only glaive with a satisfying explosion noise

Unless you guys have any notables

[undone dust]

holy peak riven

[deep grotto]

Negative finisher damage amuses me whenever i see it

[fierce lark]

i actually trolled the hell out of myself earlier

i ran a legacyte bounty and the bounty obj was finisher kills, and i had this equipped

[undone dust]

1 finisher damage

[fierce lark]

and i couldn't figure out why my finishers weren't doing anything lmao

[deep grotto]

Standard riven shenanigans

Equally as funny is backwards opticor and negative flight speed rivens

[karmic badger]

Yeah its essentially just a really big range mod

[karmic badger]

Halikar wraith has a funny doughty setup for ludicrous crit damage

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/mark-cuban-shark-tank-notes-taking-notes-remember-gif-15073512

[violet silo]

what are some other weapons to use with doughty

[karmic badger]

The steel meridian polearm I think

Basically any weapon with mostly puncture damage, and like, 25-30% status chance

[neat harbor]

Isn’t coda motorvore also good with doughty

[karmic badger]

yeah

[wild rune]

holy doughty has a use

[undone dust]

definitely

[fierce lark]

think that's more to do with the funny multiplier on techrot gallifex monitors

[mighty flare]

its like the worse variant sadly

[astral mica]

Doughty def has a use with certain weapons

[fierce lark]

depends what your definition of "has a use" is

[astral mica]

does damage and kills?

[fierce lark]

i could be wrong but i think modding into doughty and running it is probably worse damage than modding a weapon normally and using a different single-target arcane

puncture kinda sucks

[astral mica]

or are we just gonna default to just using Influence?

[fierce lark]

no im talking about like exposure duplicate afflictions

[mighty flare]

doughty sucks cuz motovore can run impact + exposure

[fierce lark]

im curious why impact instead of slash

[mighty flare]

primed impact

[fierce lark]

lmao there's a primed heavy trauma right

[mighty flare]

slash is good for influence cuz works without ips mods and free sc
for raw damage, impact > puncture cuz theres primed heavy trauma
making doughty the worse variant

[fierce lark]

well maybe we'll get primed sundering strike one day

[mighty flare]

impact gets to run exposure, sooo

[karmic badger]

Nah this is scaldra

[fierce lark]

theory that exposure would do more bc +corrosive dmg vs scaldra xdxdxd

im way overhating ngl

i just hate when something looks great on paper and ends up sucking

[old marsh]

[mighty flare]

it would

[main sparrow]

What can I do for don't run out Ammo with Ocucor?

[fierce lark]

shoutouts to some random pathocyst orange 450m crit

(with influence btw)

[granite ginkgo]

double it to next enemy

[glass rampart]

No integer overflow low damage

:3

[neat harbor]

Kill enemies

Only thing u can do

[mild acorn]

would calculated shot work with diriga? usin verglas

[last crag]

What would be a good helminth for survivability for a day form maim Equinox?

[granite ginkgo]

u might need to equip range+ mod since it can goes to 40M

[granite ginkgo]

use transfer energy augment mod, night form 3rd skill is already u goes to survival and stacking

[last crag]

So would it be better to subsume over her 2 for something that would strip?

[pliant lantern]

OMG

[granite ginkgo]

if u like recast/spam, either terrify for remove aggro n armor strip
or nourish for energy orb % increase intake and viral proc

honestly sleep is quite useful on groupin

[last crag]

Doesn't Terrify scale off strength? I've got her built mainly for Range and duration

[pliant lantern]

I love you FF

[granite ginkgo]

yea standard str, around 175% for single cast armor strip

[mighty flare]

it has a low threshold that you can lower with mods and snapshot with pacify/provoke

[mighty flare]

terrify its 167

[granite ginkgo]

what meats said, overall even lower str, u can spam it

negative iirc u need triple cast to armor strip

[mighty flare]

bwuh

[last crag]

Looks like I'm gonna have to rework the build for then lol

[granite ginkgo]

i dont recommend pillage on equinox tho, cuz her 3rd already doin the same thing w/o the armor strip

[last crag]

How about Reave?

[granite ginkgo]

same problem no? u still need str - but that add more mobility

[last crag]

Would it be worth putting crimson archon shards to boost the strength or would they be better used to speed up casting?

[granite ginkgo]

1 casting speed already enuf
1 tau crimson is better for str
optional if u want to put amber energy % intake

[mighty flare]

no really no, you'd get more by stacking conditionals to snapshot her p&p: tenno class, grimoire, parazon, etc
what does your build look like rn

[granite ginkgo]

i put last slot for energy on spawn

[granite ginkgo]

yea help a lot to precise what u can put as subsume and archon shard to use

[last crag]

My build atm is not particularly good, this is the current build

[night laurel]

i swear, doughty has so much potential but i dont know how to work with it

if theres a primary doughty, AX-52 gets it

[mighty flare]

the issue with doughty is it forces you to use mods that suck, and any elemental infusion (from teammates) immediately brings its value to 0

[granite ginkgo]

i dont recommend u use cataz shield on equinox to use her night 3rd skill tho

[night laurel]

yeah the dependence on weighting is ridiculous

meet potential arcane! 0 procs 0 damage 7 elements ruining the status chance weighting

[granite ginkgo]

u can swap cata shield w overextended tho, that help a lot for her 4th skill on both form

[last crag]

Drop cataz, add streamline?

[granite ginkgo]

nah just move rolling guard to cata shield slot

[mighty flare]

(for terrify), you drop all strength mods to use corrosive projection, molt augmented, grimoire, and madurai or parazon
100 - 60 (overextended) + 60 (molt) + 60 (grimoire) + 40/50 (madurai/parazon) lets you sit at ~140 after conditionals ends and you get have enough to full strip on terrify

corrosive projection lowers the threshold from 167 to 137

[granite ginkgo]

for empty slot u can put equlibrium, and remove blind rage for stretch

[night laurel]

btw, if i put some armor archon shards, is Arcane Circumvent good for proccing Bulwark? on a frame with 184 base armor

[granite ginkgo]

in night form u gain fast stack via being hit

unlike day form u need to dmg the enemy

[last crag]

I don't have a full molt or grimoire mods

[granite ginkgo]

own aegis arcane?

r3 is enuff

[last crag]

Only at default rank

[granite ginkgo]

well if u looking for alternaitve to molt

[gusty nova]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/952596922290556988/1264981528518070382/i-text.gif

[granite ginkgo]

avenger

r0 aegis is fine

night 4th skill provide overshield on self n allies, enemies killed, as long it active

aegis is just extra layer for speed up shield gatin

[granite ginkgo]

color equinox energy to darker color to night form on spawn
u can use this skill rotation,
4th - 3rd - 2nd is optional - tank till u manage to gain 1M stack - use 1st - deactivate 4th - use 1st to change form back
repeat

[woven drift]

So I have two builds one

1. is pure heat hate with fire blast kullervo using the burning hate mod.

2. Is melee influence slop with burning hate so the status damage does more. Using shock trooper so I can still trigger it.

Any ideas of how to improve the fire build or should I just stick with shock trooper

[brittle sleet]

Day form spawn is preferential to use 3's ability strength boost for 4 if you're using the energy transfer aug

[granite ginkgo]

fire build? unless u can proc abilities heat u can use hotshot

[last crag]

Thank you, unfortunately it is late so I will have to finish this build at a later date

[granite ginkgo]

he equip the augment in the build tho

[granite ginkgo]

https://overframe.gg/build/212520/equinox-prime/day-and-night-sleep-nuke-switch-equinox-steel-path/

here i tried this for lvl cap and descendia, very rotation friendly

[last crag]

I will look into it

[woven drift]

Yeah I'm using the subsume ability fire blast but for my arcanes I have arcane truculence and arcane molt augmented for my kullervo

With my fire hate build I'm using melee afflictions

[granite ginkgo]

well hot shot focus on single target crit hi

since u use truculence for aoe proc - kullervo specifically or u want to use hate on any frame possible?

[woven drift]

Mainly kullervo cause he's the main frame I use

And last time I asked someone what was the best fire subsume only fire blast was mentioned as a good ability for heat and it armour strips on ability use

[granite ginkgo]

personally i will pick silence to subsume his 4th skill

help a lot with eximus enemies

anyway u can double dip heat with faction mod, and since it kullervo u can use 3rd skill for extra aoe

[velvet pulsar]

That's the best way to use concentration arrow

[cold salmon]

question: both blast and gas deals AOE damage, how do yall choose between these 2 statuses when building for AOE?

[karmic badger]

Blast is for when you can stack it to 10 repeatedly, gas is for when you apply only once, and can hit really hard

[idle swan]

Does shock trooper work on pets?

[hard dove]

Yes

[cold salmon]

do u happen to know what does multiple stacks of gas status do? Does it only increase the gas cloud radius but not the damage?

[karmic badger]

Only the size of the cloud

Another option is electric

Since you don't need 2 mod slots, its useful for builds that need more space for critd

[night laurel]

if i wanna build for electric, is it worth it getting High Voltage w/ stormbringer?

we don't have primed stormbringer yet orz

[old marsh]

Doubt we will ever get one

[mighty flare]

for dps? most just use Stormbringer, high voltage is usually a second pick option

[night laurel]

single target dps, yeah

[fierce lark]

90 mods usually > 60 mods for dot statuses since the status dmg scales with the matching elemental mods

[celest thicket]

Years playing this game and just now i noticed rhino charge has a combo counter

[fierce lark]

also shifts the weighting in favor of that element more, if you run 60/60 viral mods and then a 60 elec mod you'd barely get any elec procs

[celest thicket]

I wonder if this thing can outdamage the stug...

[mighty flare]

yeah then stormbringer, high voltage can be used if you got free slots

but it doesn't replace stormbringer

[night laurel]

thanks!

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-yeah-science-laugh-smile-gif-5011708

[fierce lark]

primed infected clip would be a funny troll

but the last primed element to come was a tox archgun mod so probably won't be tox again

[night laurel]

primed radiation. think about it

[karmic badger]

Honestly? Yeah, why not, just stick it in a debilitate build

[high turtle]

Valkyr glaive build?

[karmic badger]

But why? She has claws

Plus i don't think her warcry applies to the throw animation for glaives

[gaunt gust]

@latent adder hey, seen you updated your magistar build recently, wanted to ask why not melee afflictions instead of exposure? since you slam spam, everything gets flung, so you get the +6 to all statuses every time you come down with the people's elbow

[latent adder]

Magistar has very low status chance and afflictions only works if enemies don't die to the initial hit

So you won't be proccing anything for afflictions to apply

[gaunt gust]

that's unfortunate

thought maybe there's a build to make use of that, since +100% slam range is nutty

for crowd control

[karmic badger]

Why cc when you can kill

[gaunt gust]

well sometimes "L+ratio" ancients appears, destroying your confidence, sapping your strength, and making you deal 0 dmg

[fierce lark]

bro have you seen how much dmg magistar incarnon slam does

you could stack ancient healer next to a guardian eximus and it probably wouldn't matter lol

plus afflictions doesn't work against eximus anyways

the biggest things you want extra damage for won't take the extra damage

[quiet laurel]

you can one shot lvl cap thrax with a decent riven without strip or buffs

magi will destroy anything non lvl cap

lvl cap too of course but its more effortless

[gaunt gust]

i have, it doesn't really matter if an ancient disrupter is standing together with a guardian and a healer, while 2 leeches spam blood circles in your house, resist 90% of it

90% damage resist is just a passive that the disrupter has

[fierce lark]

im aware

magistar incarnon is a weapon that does "i dont care how much damage resist you have" damage

[gaunt gust]

and i know, but it's just that i've been to too many situations that you'd reasonably think "nah, that's so ultra unlikely, all of em at once? naaaaah" at

[fierce lark]

also you've successfully gaslit me

ancient disruptors take 90% reduced damage from abilities

non-exalted weapons behave as normal

[gaunt gust]

well for me on xaku that sounds like "go back to the orbiter, brokey"

[fierce lark]

instead of going back to orbiter

slam it

[quiet laurel]

you always take a normal killing weapon even for ability dps frames anyway

[gaunt gust]

when a lvl 1k stalker fanboy comes in busting it down sexual style

and like i get it, any normal scenario this thing deals mario on mushrooms level damage, but i dunno if i'm just that unlucky, but i find myself in abnormal scenarios way too often

[frosty patrol]

What do I put on voruna

[fierce lark]

the moves

[gaunt gust]

a collar

[fierce lark]

she kinda bad

[gaunt gust]

stop that cap

[frosty patrol]

JAJWJSA

No but tell me Ifk how to build warframes

[fierce lark]

@undone dust you know voruna things right

help this guy

[gaunt gust]

https://overframe.gg/build/395644/voruna/muzzled-wolf-muzzle-flash-melee-voruna-nuke-crowd-control-and-bonus-stealth-damage/

ninjase is on the same wavelength as me, she needs a collar and a muzzle

[fierce lark]

i need to figure out what to replace archon vit with on mesa cause that shit is big useless

and my dumbass even stuck a polarity there

that or i can keep coping that the hp is helping me survive with adaptation + shatter shield

[oblique pebble]

so how important is Equilibrium, is it a must have or just a quality of life mod

[gaunt gust]

why would you replace it, it doubles fire procs from regulators

[fierce lark]

regulators don't do much damage from heat status, most of the damage is raw corrosive/heat

base status chance is 10%, it's getting 8% from galv shot, and of that heat is only triggering ~6% of the time, x 3.9 from multi

so it's a bit under a quarter chance to proc heat per shot, and the heat status is unlikely to actually do damage to most things before they die anyways

and of the things that would survive longer than a second, most of them are status capped (acolytes/humanoid bosses)

clearly i thought it was good too cause i put a forma there

but it's bait, auger secrets honestly probably provides more dmg

[timber cliff]

Anyone able to tell me why this is happening? This is my Akarius P; And this is my Akarius P after I put Pistol Elementalist on it (+90% status damage). They are both the same. Why is Pistol Elementalist not doing anything?

[quiet laurel]

cause conditionals arent shown in the stat screen

[night laurel]

because status damage isn't shown?

[quiet laurel]

its conditional in the sense that it only works on status dmg

[timber cliff]

OHHHHH the damage of the status itself, derp. Okay. Thanks.

[night laurel]

elementalist isn't conditional (needs a condition to proc), it's just not there

[gaunt gust]

i dunno man, 150 fire procs in 3 secs sounds pretty nutty