builds-discussion

[fierce lark]

okay if you have wrathful advance on top of already having sac steel, blood rush is basically a wasted slot

[gleaming oasis]

finally becasue of tennokai what should I swap for lifesteal?

[fierce lark]

im sorry if you don't want to hear that but it's truth

[gleaming oasis]

I do not have wrathful advance

[floral sky]

Dk if its worth keeping or selling as one of them is worth 400

[fierce lark]

that could just be base burston mod price lol burston rivens are very high demand

[abstract bison]

We’re supplementing the crit tier with blood rush, without it we won’t have !! Red crit on 300% str

[fierce lark]

crazy good gun with crazy high riven dispo

[abstract bison]

Trust me i have tested these out alot

[floral sky]

I put in all the things for it and it came up between 400 and 500 about 400 to 450 for mine on the market if i take the multishot one

[celest thicket]

personally i would say weeping wounds

[fierce lark]

you're talking about building combo and tennokai on a build with ready steel and galvanized reflex

you've combined two different builds that are anti-synergistic, doesn't make any sense

[floral sky]

But idk how hard it is to get back so

[gleaming oasis]

my bad i dont known what im even saying at this point

[fierce lark]

im not talking to you man

im literally replying to someone else lol

[celest thicket]

that answer is not for you bro

[gleaming oasis]

I get it

[abstract bison]

On paper they’re anti-synergistic yeah but just try it out in practice and it’ll make a whole lot of sense 🙂

[gusty nova]

[fierce lark]

there are some things you really don't need to try in practice to know they make no sense, this is one of those things

[celest thicket]

exactly, youre increasing the times you do damage per second, a 180% damage bonus isnt worth 60% attack speed

[abstract bison]

You might also be thinking why no viral? Well my friend, pure electric rocks on exalted lmao

[fierce lark]

i don't recall thinking that at any point no

influence builds don't run viral

that is normal

[abstract bison]

Bro it’s 5%, what would i even replace primed fury with?

I used strike before and it feels negligible compared to fury

In terms of speed lol

And no, berserker fury sucks in some scenarios as well

[fierce lark]

shocking touch for now

berserker fury sucks in scenarios where you aren't getting kills

which is primarily boss fights

if there are enemies to kill berserker fury is a near non-conditional upgrade over primed fury

[abstract bison]

Exalted blade is strong against bosses lol

[celest thicket]

so let me see if i understand your thought process, you run initial combos to get your crit increased faster, then you use wrathful advance that gives a garanteed crit and make a free heavy attack

and then you have heavy attack efficiency in case you mess up your tennokai, while you could use wrathful advance anyway ?

[fierce lark]

i didn't say it wasn't?

[fierce lark]

wrathful advance heavies aren't free, they behave same as normal heavies

[abstract bison]

Bro wrathful advance consumes combo if you mess up the tennokai

[celest thicket]

oh right , forgot about that my bad

[gusty nova]

He's using it for crit chance not for a heavy attack

[abstract bison]

Being at permanent 6x just makes us go to 12x faster

[fierce lark]

yeah if you aren't targeting an enemy you just teleport and get the same crit bonus

[gleaming oasis]

thanks a lot for the help. I know it want the easiest to go thorugh

[celest thicket]

but then he could just blood rush and use combo duration with dexterity arcanes

[abstract bison]

There’s also violence who disables your exalted so now you have to build combo again

[celest thicket]

you can just one shot him with a heavy as soon as he spawns

[gusty nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/150312340590428160/1456487920910467153/magistar.gif

[fierce lark]

lolistar

[abstract bison]

Oh please

[fierce lark]

im sure i don't have to explain why using two mod slots to build back to 12x slightly faster because sometimes violence will spawn and nuke your combo is nonsense

though that is a really funny bit

[abstract bison]

So do you suggest i just build for viral electric instead?

[celest thicket]

its like not using galvanized mods because you dont wanna lose the stacks between rounds in defense

[gusty nova]

Last time I checked building combo on eb took ages

Unless you run up to melee range to every enemy

[celest thicket]

you dont ? youre literally losing more than half your damage not doing that

[fierce lark]

nope, you just build crabsweat like every other melee weapon and you cry "state of melee" while you're holding E prime

[abstract bison]

I used to do surging dash but then i found out that ready steel + galv relfex is just as much qol lol

[celest thicket]

so you prefer to waste 2 mod slots rather than one ?

[abstract bison]

Look at the main excalibur build again

[fierce lark]

you can build funny stuff on your exalted blade if you want

viral influence, gas influence, blast influence, pure heavy gas afflictions, etc etc etc

but putting IC mods on a build that's meant to be tennokai 12x is just skill issue lol

[abstract bison]

It’s not wasted slots lol literally just try out the build

And it’ll make sense

[celest thicket]

nah man , i think i will go back to play warframe, i trully cannot understand your thought process

[abstract bison]

Adding more element dilutes the status weighting for influence, pure electric just awesome on eb

Influence on every slash dash

[gusty nova]

Building viral on weapons when diriga exists

[fierce lark]

im well aware, that's why i referred to it as "funny stuff" and stated before that you build crabsweat and laugh and/or cry

[abstract bison]

Just trust me on this one lol i have literally tried out every build because i main umbra

And seriously haha this is where i ended up

[fierce lark]

but putting IC mods on a build that's meant to be tennokai 12x is just skill issue lol

reiterating for clarity

[abstract bison]

Skill issue smh

[gusty nova]

there's other builds that use blood rush and sac steel and heff and initial combo

[fierce lark]

if you ended up on a build that uses galv reflex and ready steel to do 12x tennokai combo, you have personal issues

[gusty nova]

Slam

[abstract bison]

Can’t a brother have some qol these days smh smh

On lvl cap even

[fierce lark]

these are usually incarnon builds that get up to 8-9x initial combo, or 10 with ready steel

[abstract bison]

Tried and tested

[gusty nova]

If you've completed a cap with it then that's nuff said

[abstract bison]

Circumvent OP

All u need

Circumvent and slash dash augur mod shieldgate

Persistence sucks a$$

[fierce lark]

i can also completely remove a mod from my baruuk's desert wind and run it to levelcap lol, it would get the exact same point across

[abstract bison]

Unless you’re using that nikana daikyu lifesteal combo

[gusty nova]

Unless you play valk or inaros yeah

[abstract bison]

Oh and btw

[gusty nova]

It's mid on most other things

[acoustic bluff]

Persistence is ultra casual bait

[gusty nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/150312340590428160/1456487920910467153/magistar.gif

[abstract bison]

Modding pure electric on exalted blade like the one above makes it so that you proc influence reliably when slash dashing without the 4 active lmao

[acoustic bluff]

Like yes we are using 6 mod slots and 2 arcane slots to make persistence work

🥀

[gusty nova]

Inaros zenurik tech...

[abstract bison]

No channeled ability

[acoustic bluff]

Energising shot…

[abstract bison]

Just slash dash and influence happens

[acoustic bluff]

Just excal slam

[gusty nova]

Bro is not a knower 🥀

[acoustic bluff]

:knowers:

[abstract bison]

Like yeah sure there’s IPS but the probability is higher bc of single element

[gusty nova]

Jk twin

[abstract bison]

Or you know what? Remove chromatic blade from the build

[acoustic bluff]

Remove the 4 and be happy

[abstract bison]

IPS electric

[gusty nova]

Nah unless eb can use CO

But chromatic also give status chance

It's better iirc

[abstract bison]

There’s no point bc umbral intensify so no precision intensify unless you gut the umbral polarities

[acoustic bluff]

Where’s the gian point copypasta

[abstract bison]

Which would be dumb ngl

[acoustic bluff]

I got it

[gusty nova]

Don't trigger my pgpsd smh

[abstract bison]

I already tried non umbral build and it sucks

[acoustic bluff]

这包括移除 Gian Point 节点。这个决定不是轻率的，但为了改善所玩任务的多样性，我们认为这是必要的一步。我们基本上采用了 Gian Point 的优点（一个具有高亲和力奖励的快速周转任务）并将其放入 Railjack 本身的目标中，这样内容的多样性就会在不止一个节点上一遍又一遍地播放（和结束）再次。 Corpus Proxima 区域的加入将引入许多新任务（而且它说的不仅仅是“小规模冲突”！）。我们还将在面纱比邻星的太空深处添加 Corpus 任务。

[abstract bison]

There’s no reason to gut the polarities

[acoustic bluff]

💔

[gusty nova]

0 days since gian point mentioned..

[abstract bison]

It’s just stupid and pointless

[gusty nova]

Ty dog and me are crying

[acoustic bluff]

Pretty sure some people just use regular excal

[fathom sky]

They do

[acoustic bluff]

Ts frying me

[gusty nova]

Reg excal is better for exalted blade builds anyway

No umbra passive bs

[abstract bison]

They swear that base excal is better but i think that’s wrong lmao

[acoustic bluff]

I think he is

It’s either excal or excal prime

[abstract bison]

Like bro you’re gonna recast your buffs anyway on this short duration

[fathom sky]

The passive is annoying and that's all I really think about it

[abstract bison]

The passive is not a big deal

[gusty nova]

Can umbra npc still die and bug you out

Or did they fix that part

[fathom sky]

I haven't heard of any bugs relating to dying with Umbra passive

[fierce lark]

think the fixed umbra specter being able to die

[abstract bison]

See it’s not a big deal

[fierce lark]

now if it "dies" it just chills and waits like a normal abandoned warframe would

[fathom sky]

Yeah not a big deal but also something I can easily opt out of no problem.

[abstract bison]

You’re gonna recast your buffs anyway lmao

[fierce lark]

iirc it still turns off all your buffs tho unless that was also fixed in a recent patch and wiki wasn't updated yet

[undone dust]

yeah just run warriors rest and if you really want knockdown immunity just run wyrm or something

[fierce lark]

you can also run base excal instead smile

[abstract bison]

Primed sure footed wins

Necessary redundancy

Some redundancies are necessary

[fathom sky]

There isn't anything in the patch notes I'm seeing about Umbra just going invincible and comatose

[abstract bison]

Base excal is built like paper

[fathom sky]

However, Umbra can be damaged, and will stop moving once all of his health is depleted. Ah weird

[fathom sky]

Like you aren't spamming Slash Dash anyway

[undone dust]

no scarf = automatically bad

[fathom sky]

75 armor should not be the make or break on you being able to survive as either frankly

[fierce lark]

base excal doesn't stick you with a bunch of dogwater umbra polarities

automatic W

[abstract bison]

Yeah sometimes i don’t because the regular slashes do statuses faster

[acoustic bluff]

Mexian knowers

[fathom sky]

Damn. I usually go with a 4 build on my Excal

Xata's is funny

[peak pond]

hi

[hard dove]

Blast elec exalted blade?

[peak pond]

im back

[fathom sky]

Nah just Elec.

[abstract bison]

I do admit that pure electric doesn’t have the dopamine millions like viral electric does

[fathom sky]

I just hope my dumb Hound spits Viral in the general area

[hard dove]

Well if you do melee 9/10 youll have external primer already

[abstract bison]

But what pure electric has is proc consistency and it’s the white status damage that does millions instead lol

[deep grotto]

Ive been trying to figure out something abt ESO
What is like
The best team comp to reliably get to zone 16? Full nukeframes??
Ive also been wondering how far a group could possibly get before the efficiency drain overcomes the amount of enemies 4 people could physically kill

[acoustic bluff]

Pure dopamine

[acoustic bluff]

@nocturne rock

[abstract bison]

Status damage scaled by base damage and supercharged crit from wrathful

[acoustic bluff]

🥀

[fathom sky]

Just get decent weapons and shoot stuff, really. 16 isn't really a whole lot.

[pale salmon]

I need an expert help pls for understanding this
As we all know mesa is a glass Canon and most of the time her damge is overkill but her survivability is so low (as a void cascade lvl cap)
So I tried to make her a heavy Canon by :
1- Arcane persistence to have a damge cap 500 on my mesa (on stats her armor is more than 700)
2- 2 tau armor shardes and umbra fiber and umbra intensify for meeting the requirements of persistence
3- arcane fortifire to have a status imune and 15000 overguard
So as a damge cap on 500 with status imune I thought I will be invincible for 30 sec until I find another eximus or thrax (wich is easy and consistent on void cascade)
But when I tested it before going a real mission for some reason the overguard is evaporate on 4 sec (some times 8 sec) even when I stop the game and see that I have the persistence effect and the damge cap is 500 and after the overguard is gone my health start decrease 500 as normal so I thought it may be a bug for magnetic procs so I tried the test with the fire eximus and same result even after the activation of helminth ability of titina (give a status immune)
After shifting the testing for inaros with a 700 armor without his skill (his high hp make it easier for observation) the same result 15000 overguard down on 4 - 8 sec while his hp (7000) down after 14 sec even when he is status immune with his skill
Can someone tell me why it doesn't work or it is just a bug ?

[nocturne rock]

Wsg

[fierce lark]

probably 3 uriels with dispensaries and a nokko lmao

[acoustic bluff]

Dude wants eso ball knowledge

[nocturne rock]

Oh

What u want a full team ?

[deep grotto]

Nah im wondering what team comp could get the farthest

[fathom sky]

Persistence doesn't work on Overguard

[pale salmon]

Why? 🥲

[fathom sky]

It just doesn't.

[hard dove]

It's not hp

[abstract bison]

Actually you know what? You can just bring a standard influence nikana prime to lvl 9999 yeah

[nocturne rock]

So the way eso works is the “furthest” changes each week, there will be a zone u physically cannot pass no matter the amount of people or kills, simple because the tile is bad and not enough enemies spawn to keep up the efficiency @deep grotto

[acoustic bluff]

I’ve done this ye

[abstract bison]

Doesn’t drop off at all

Shingshingshing

[fierce lark]

you can bring a lot of things to lvl 9999

endgame modding is extreme levels of overkill

especially on the melee side

[deep grotto]

Yeah ik
Efficiency drain can overcome the amount of enemies you can kill

[abstract bison]

I didn’t even bring a panzer, i had no viral priming

[deep grotto]

So
What team comp would reliably get you the best results?

[abstract bison]

Electric go brr

[acoustic bluff]

Don’t even got a panzer

Don’t get the panzer hype ong

[abstract bison]

I brought my loot dog

[fierce lark]

panzer does everything, pretty chill cat fox thing

[nocturne rock]

Solo: Cyte
Duo: Cyte Mirage or Gauss Nokko
Trio: Cyte Mirage Nokko (if u have Nokko the mirage build changes)
Squad: Cyte Mirage Nokko Jade

[fierce lark]

decent dmg, viral priming, insane survivability, feeds you reinforced & tenacious bonds

[deep grotto]

Thanks for the lore :3

[celest thicket]

i always liked the predasite more, not as good as primer, but i think they look better

[fathom sky]

If you can't get to 16 solo Idk what you're gonna do for later. Can probably get much farther with Saryn and a decent weapon to weapon platform solo.

[celest thicket]

and the pharaoh gives you free toxic damage

[fierce lark]

predasite takes kubrow mods so you can do mecha set stuff with it

[nocturne rock]

Nws just dm any questions, I forgot what zone max is this week but just check leaderboards and u will be able to roughly work it out

[celest thicket]

i just wish i could see what the mecha set marked as the target

[abstract bison]

The glorious nikana prime

[karmic badger]

but not helminth charger!

[fierce lark]

kekw

ive never actually used the mecha set

or kubrows in general, or hounds

[late hemlock]

give it a shot its fun seeing the pet do a big boom

[fierce lark]

hey thats plagiarism i worked hard on that

[acoustic bluff]

I just use it for loot

[abstract bison]

Primed Shocking Touch when

[celest thicket]

hey , at least the charger can still use that classic skin , funny asf seeing other players trying to shoot my charger

ugly asf tho

[fierce lark]

calling the nidus dog ugly is not right

[deep grotto]

You have merely transformed it into an internet meme

[abstract bison]

Nikana and daikyu lifelsteal persistence build

[celest thicket]

sorry sorry, less beneficially to the eyes

[abstract bison]

Circumvent still better

[floral sky]

If i have a problem with energy on oberon would i want to have on energy orb or spawn with more energy

[abstract bison]

Buy the fallout arcane

[floral sky]

I cant yet

I need a fix i can use atm

[abstract bison]

Super expenseev

[hybrid bolt]

chat do i switch, its for self use

[celest thicket]

energy on spawn would help more on very short missions, but if you prefer long ones you should go with effect on energy orbs

[fierce lark]

uh probably keep left

[floral sky]

Tbf i have a problem getting my self setup atm so on spawn would likely be best

Cant do much with him due to energy issues

[celest thicket]

if you already decided then why...

[floral sky]

Cause i didnt know if energy orb would be better. Had no idea how good the other one was

[twilit crest]

Neg status duration is rlly bad

[hybrid bolt]

wb this 1

idk if fire rate on latron is important

[celest thicket]

if i had a nickel for every latron riven with bad negative i saw today...

[late hemlock]

can negate it with cannonade

[fierce lark]

if you're using cannonade for some reason it...works?

but then if you're using cannonade you don't want base damage on a riven

[hybrid bolt]

not using cannonade i dont think its the best for latron ngl

[fierce lark]

i think it's usually not great

fire rate is almost as big a part of the dps equation as anything else

[celest thicket]

in that case use primed flow on him, you will get even more energy on spawn with this option

[hybrid bolt]

so take right

[celest thicket]

without cannonade i would say both options are equal

so continue rolling

[hybrid bolt]

now this is the one

[abstract bison]

acuity feels good on the latron you don't even need multishot imo

big balls

[late hemlock]

acuity requires aiming, yuck

[abstract bison]

skill issue

pew pew pew

[fierce lark]

acuity feels good

posts mod that makes acuity worse

https://tenor.com/view/ace-attorney-phoenix-wright-objection-capcom-gif-20965907

[late hemlock]

just hit a headshot once every 2 seconds?????

[abstract bison]

makes it worse? reeee

[fierce lark]

multishot stacks double tap faster

acuity makes the multishot go away

[late hemlock]

definitely prefer double tap myself

[abstract bison]

just shoot faster

[twilit cedar]

Guys, I am trying to find the colours that would replicate the look my hound had when it was stilll owned by its Sister of Parvos. Do i ask in spoiler chat?

or here?

[visual citrus]

So any suggestions on a good steel path melle weapon

[celest thicket]

BTW, why dont we have a Fashionframe Chat ?

[twilit cedar]

wait the hound is considered fashionframe?

[visual citrus]

Holy crap your right lol

[twilit cedar]

wait, the hound is considered fashionframe?

[fierce lark]

i mean you're trying to fashion it so yeah

[celest thicket]

yes kinda ? you wanna make fashion in warframe

[twilit cedar]

nm then, off I go

[celest thicket]

now im incredibly perplexed , we dont have a chat for endgame content

[visual citrus]

FashionFrame=the real end game of Warframe

[visual citrus]

So it's funny you mention that because I got two new players I"m working with to get through the story and they asked me what the endgmae was and I realized I didn't have a good answer. What would ya'll consider end game of Warfame

Also other than Overframe are there other build sites out there?

[acoustic bluff]

Because most of these people can’t comprehend or will not want to willingly lol

[acoustic bluff]

Meta arbis + aya

[undone dust]

#fashion-frame

[acoustic bluff]

Aya is dead now tho. So meta arbis

[buoyant patio]

In terms of gameplay content? Elite Archimedia is the highest starting level content in the game.

[acoustic bluff]

Cascade could also be considered endgame but it’s really not “meta defined”

[celest thicket]

wait we do ? why is it up there ?

[undone dust]

no idea LMAO

[visual citrus]

I haven't really gotten into that yet to be honest

[abstract bison]

cascade is baby mode i can't believe ppl hyped up this gamemode

[acoustic bluff]

This isn’t really endgame imo

[abstract bison]

i was so disappointed

[visual citrus]

I assumed endgame was more like the Circuit, The seasons in Hex and what not

[acoustic bluff]

Just slotted in random loadouts to make it look like so

[topaz verge]

What stats should I look for on this riven? I wanted to get the hespar today anyways and I got lucky to find this

[visual citrus]

and obviously steelpath

[acoustic bluff]

Practically everything outside meta arbis + pre nokko aya is baby mode in this game and even then ngl

Warframe is ultra easy

And super unbalanced

[celest thicket]

wait you have to opt in for fashion frame to appear , lol i didnt know

[abstract bison]

yeah warframe is a casual f2p game

[acoustic bluff]

But generally speaking DE’s “endgame” is EDA/ETA but heavily skewed

[acoustic bluff]

Yes

So getting an endgame out of it is very hard especially when 98% of players would rather never touch that part of the game

[abstract bison]

so i find it funny that ppl hype up and develop toxic behavior on specific gamemodes

[fierce lark]

what makes meta arbis endgame? the level of optimization that goes into it?

[abstract bison]

cascade and eidolons cough

[buoyant patio]

Warframe used to actually be hard back in the day.

[acoustic bluff]

Yeah, and teamwork

It’s the only gamemode that kinda requires teamwork

For meta arbis that is*

And well aya too, but again it’s dead rn

[celest thicket]

im surprised we still dont have SP arbi

[buoyant patio]

But the more they commit to the power fantasy aspect of the games modern day design, the more of a joke everything becomes.

[acoustic bluff]

Cascade is ultra easy compared to the rest

Cascade is stupidly forgiving and can basically level cap with an unmodded inaros if you wanted to

[late hemlock]

most players play for the power fantasy, you cant really opt out of it at this point

[abstract bison]

not to mention that it's one of the faster gamemodes to get to lvl cap

[fierce lark]

so when you're thinking "endgame" you're not looking at the game's systems but rather the content as a whole, including content manufactured by players

ie trido speedruns, meta aya farm, meta arbis etc

[acoustic bluff]

It’s the closest thing we have to a standard endgame. IMO

[visual citrus]

where is this aya farm lol

[acoustic bluff]

Got killed in post nokko update

Could farm like 150 aya/2 hours

or even more

[fierce lark]

if you want to farm aya you run cetus 40-60 bounties with volt nova and idr what else

[acoustic bluff]

Volt nova nidus wisp iirc

It’s still same comp just way slower

[fierce lark]

did removing same bounty spam really do that much damage to it

[acoustic bluff]

Yes

[late hemlock]

in the same way you call hyper optimizing farms endgames other players just take minmaxing big numbers as the endgame

[karmic badger]

Maximum power strength to spam volt speed?

[fierce lark]

max strength so you can turbocharge the hacked drone

[acoustic bluff]

I never did meta aya farm so I don’t actually know lol. But I think so yes

And for other buffs

[fierce lark]

i think speeding up the drone escort was the main reason for most of the frame picks lol

[acoustic bluff]

Ye prob

[spiral chasm]

yeah with nova u just insta tp the drone to location

[late hemlock]

can also switch tp it with loki

[acoustic bluff]

Either way endgame is subjective to people

Some think it’s eda/eta some think it’s level cap some think it’s meta farms

This game doesn’t have a set in stone endgame simply because DE doesn’t know how to make one work imo

[fierce lark]

ETA is the hardest "base" content without any doubt

so that's probably the standard answer

[late hemlock]

ETA and EDA are clearly the system that is actually pushed by DE atm yeah

[acoustic bluff]

Yes

[fierce lark]

the answer i usually give for that question (not that i hear it often) is levelcap cascade

[acoustic bluff]

I used to say that too yeah

Cause I mean I’d say that’s where most people’s minds drift to if they do it

Or know about it well enough

[fierce lark]

it's the hardest content that you can get to independent of other players, i think

unless you count speedrunning

[acoustic bluff]

Yes

Some people have got to level cap in 35 mins now

Only possible in disruption tho

[fierce lark]

i would say 6x trido is harder but ive never done it or have any desire to lol

[acoustic bluff]

Apparently 7-8x is possible

But I could be wrong

There’s some eidolon expert somewhere here or in cc

[fierce lark]

i didn't think it was possible to go any faster than propa prefires and zenith through the floor

[acoustic bluff]

I’d need to ask

I just remember glimpsing on it or smth

But it’s one of those “possible but ultra technical one in a million chance” type things

https://youtu.be/a7hX_abTnS4?si=GFvQQtK4WuU4ZyHb

Nvm I guess

[gusty nova]

Isn't that with drift

Which you have to afk in plains entire day cycle to activate

Or nah

[acoustic bluff]

No clue

[fallow ether]

Where is the best place to lvl up amps?

[topaz verge]

Which one should I keep?

[fierce lark]

both bad

i guess right but i wouldn't slot either

[undone dust]

doesnt hespar just suck

[coral crest]

Railjack probably

[fierce lark]

probably

[coral crest]

You can hop on railjack control as the operator and it'll count affinity from exploded ships towards the amp

[fallow ether]

So which railjack mission?

[coral crest]

Idk

[fathom sky]

That too

[coral crest]

I just ran voidstorms in veil

With pubs

[topaz verge]

Ran out of kuva on thos one

[topaz verge]

But it looks cool😢

[floral sky]

Anyone got a good glaive build

I dont think i need fever strike but idk

[topaz verge]

Do the riven challenge

[spice kraken]

what do you think?

should i change somthing?

[old marsh]

not really but your viral electric weighting is off given u have influence

[celest thicket]

that is not viral

its gas

[old marsh]

ye. my b.

a dual ichor riven (unranked/low rank) is usually used to create a combined element so u can then use 2 electric mods to increase its weighting

but this one is fine

[royal yarrow]

Plzz i need help
which one to chose from

[karmic badger]

Left

[crimson osprey]

Hey for inaros, is there any way to extend the sand kaat duration? many other augments and such benefit from mods, like duraiton and shit

[wanton coral]

The one on the left is better for Sobek thanks to the status chance. Sobek has a less impressive base crit chance, and that fire rate reduction is a killer with the way damage works. The punch-through is really nice if you're running Mag, but if you're not? Left is far better for general use.

And there's plenty of reload speed mods for shotguns.

[royal yarrow]

I see, thank you soooo much @wanton coral @karmic badger

[zenith flume]

DMs open

[royal yarrow]

I couldnt decide for the past 30 minutes which one to chose from

[wanton coral]

one thing that helps is looking the weapon up on the warframe wiki. Seeing the stats as they are on the base weapon helps decide whether the new riven stats are an improvement over the old riven stats.

[kind tendon]

Trying to plan my Kullervo Prime. He is by a long shot my favorite frame. I am banking my Umbral Forma for him, I was just wondering how everyone else likes to build him? I usually replace his 4 with armor strip

[crimson osprey]

did they change inaros sand kavat? i swear at one point duration didnt affect them.. does duration now affect them ?

[royal yarrow]

Oke after looking at Sobek Riven's one more time my finale decisive pick will be the Left one

[crimson osprey]

tough chat today. thanks anyway guys ill try to find out elsewhere

[fierce lark]

pretty sure it doesn't, not positive

[royal yarrow]

I havent touch Inaros since he was officialy released

[crimson osprey]

i believe it shows a duration increase on his 4and 1

[undone dust]

her..

[crimson osprey]

thanks for the correction, very helpful to the discussion lol

[undone dust]

don't worry twin im playing

[crimson osprey]

im so use to talking about Voruna

i know i was too, sorry the sarcasm wasnt conveyed well

[fierce lark]

just tested, it doesn't

[undone dust]

it was dont worry

[fierce lark]

it increases the duration of the scarab swarm itself but not how long the kavats stay out, it's always 20s per cat

[undone dust]

sandruna

[crimson osprey]

i was just gonna try it too. same, theyre a neat abilty, id love tyo try and build around it. i find that so odd, especally now that de seems to support pet builds with the new frames, and mods

[fierce lark]

the cats have mission level scaling, you can probably make them work

they should count as summons and work with usual increases?

[fierce lark]

inaros is a he according to the videogame

[crimson osprey]

well, at least durations, toss inaros a bone

[undone dust]

this is truth

[crimson osprey]

let em live longer! if not, maybe they shoujld benefit from the other summons mods, at most they die after 15 seconds

[fierce lark]

i almost wonder if inaros wants negative duration to spend less time in the sandstorm

[undone dust]

cant you press it again to leave it

[crimson osprey]

my inaros build is crap- i use the strain line, and go for armor and health.. thats it.. i dont use him often though

[fierce lark]

probably idk

im theorizing potential use case for fleeting expertise

but you still need some duration for scarabs

and whatever you subsume over pocket sand

[undone dust]

NOOO MY SAND

[crimson osprey]

i do like the sand kavats, and easy way to heal using pocket sand

[undone dust]

sand kavats on volt make me tinkle

[crimson osprey]

seeing the whole map light up due to his 4 makes me tickle

[hearty nexus]

Ahhh full build. Now let’s see how much I- OOOOOOO

[worthy ruin]

Which one should i take

[jovial lion]

idk which one would be better ngl

[floral sky]

Anyone know good mods to put on phantasma

Burston getting a bit samey

[kindred pumice]

damn dude chillout 6 hours in one session its absolute buns

sadly i dont know anything about builds for the pahntasma

[floral sky]

I did work earlier and now im playing

[kindred pumice]

but in genreal use try gettiing galvanized chamber and critical delay

[floral sky]

It is 4 am now cause i dont rlly like sleeping

[kindred pumice]

if u have invisivility abilities use spectral serration, if u want sustained damage amalgam serration or the normal serration

[fallow ether]

ok what brace is this again? 542 or?

[floral sky]

Got this so far

Is lingering torment good for the phantasma

[mighty flare]

what exact efficiency you want on nezha is a personal preference but i don't like negative
equilibrium + flow is much better energy setup, also wouldn't use power ramp

would do the 2nd with flow over adaptation then use steadfast over power ramp to reduce energy costs

[drowsy pelican]

Is dark verse a good subsume for ash

Because it kind of just seems like a better shuriken

[floral sky]

I dont have 60 60 cold but?

[celest thicket]

Secondary shiver is addictive damage ?

[jovial lion]

tbh when doing the test runs i didnt use flow and with equi i had full energy all the time anyway ngl

so not sure if flow is really good to slot besides just minor qol

i was with a neg efficiency setup btw

[undone dust]

it's multi or additive depending on the weapon
it's basically like gunco

[jovial lion]

the wiki has a whole list for this

well not sure for the arcane but it does for co

[deep grotto]

That’s 547

[velvet pulsar]

I just realised, Velocitus should've been able to destroy crewships on its own

Infinite punch through can just bypass the hull and hit the central gokdrul core despite the shields

[deep grotto]

DE when 90% Archgun damage resistance

[velvet pulsar]

Honestly that's a joke now

Secondary Surge just multiplies Velocitus damage to 8 times and then u also got primary Overcharge

[zealous forge]

Great Xaku build that's easy to use, easy to build, and can run pretty much any content. Martyr Symbiosis is paired with the Master's Summons subsume ability to infintely heal you when you go low health. The shield-gating is just to make sure that you're not wasting energy trying to spam Master's Summons, but it's not required necessarily. Run Synth Deconstruct to give energy economy with Equilibrium.

[gusty nova]

[zealous forge]

Also, PSF isn't required either, I'm just lazy and don't care for actively dodging all the knockdowns in the game.

[undone dust]

as an avid xakuer
this is definitely an idea and i enjoy the existence of it

[zealous forge]

Yes, it's fun. I've been using it on my Xaku for about a year now, and I figured I might as well share it.

[undone dust]

i may have to add this to my 12 other xaku setups

[zealous forge]

I only have the one!

[undone dust]

i am a mentally ill individual who enjoys the skeleton

currently one of my builds is on hold as vampiric grasp is bugged but at this point i might as well just use gloom for it instead

[zealous forge]

That's me with Kullervo lol.

[undone dust]

i love kullervo but so far ive only thought of the basic melee setup and smite with collective curse

[nocturne spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-mad-skeleton-gif-10886506202898815019

[undone dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1276816177762533398/1459049230923464704/IMG_2647.gif

[zealous forge]

This one is my MAIN Kullervo build. The philosophy behind it is glaive spam. Vigorous Swap is constantly active because I use my melee key to throw the glaive, and then I ADS to swap to my Cedo which I use to prime.

This one is probably the most fun. It's Kullervo, but wrong.

[undone dust]

is that gloom ✌️😭

[zealous forge]

Yes.

[undone dust]

this is just sheer aura farming at this point

[zealous forge]

It replaces the Overguard generation to make him a health tank.

[undone dust]

you can actually run both and quite literally afk LMAO
just occasionally recast volatile recompense

it is actually hilarious

[zealous forge]

Yeah, that was a funny build lol.

[celest thicket]

should i change anything here ?

[zealous forge]

My brother in Talos why do you need so much Impact??

[karmic badger]

IPS mods don't scale as well as elemental mods

But if its 100% impact, would it be the same?

[celest thicket]

landslide fist is pure impact , impact mods scale the same as a elemental

[undone dust]

holy raw damage batman

[karmic badger]

Aren't you still running into diminishing returns

[celest thicket]

i dont know, that is why i came to ask

[zealous forge]

This is what I run. Bane mod optional.

[karmic badger]

Also an epitaph and condition overload would beat out Triple P

[zealous forge]

Yes, you still would be.

[celest thicket]

if i change Saxum thorax for a 90% elemental mod the final damage doesnt change

so thats why im confused

[mighty flare]

that makes Primed Fever Strike better than another impact mod no?

[celest thicket]

i ...just dont have that one lol

[karmic badger]

Blast or gas would be better? I mean you got 24% status chance

[zealous forge]

It's not the final damage on the stats list that you should care about necessarily. Yes, it would look the same, but if you used Condition Overload and added even one other element (such as blast) onto your fists, you would be doing way more damage overall.

[celest thicket]

if its pure damage maybe i should got after the faction damage bonus ?

[zealous forge]

I would suggest Blast, because Landslide Fists definitely like burst damage more than damage over time, but that is optional.

[celest thicket]

mine seems overkill looking at that lol

16k of pure impact

[zealous forge]

My damage numbers in game range in the 50 millions and higher.

[karmic badger]

Wan morbillion damage

[celest thicket]

to me it depends on the target, biggest i ever hit was 174 million but it was on a crewman so who cares

but generally its on the 20 million

[zealous forge]

The highest I've hit with that is damage cap.

[celest thicket]

would it be better to go for 60 60 mods or 90 then ?

[zealous forge]

Depends on the build. Do you want to do something like Blast? Go with 60/60. If you're opting for a Melee Influence build, do the 90 shock mod.

[celest thicket]

if the target dies with the blast proc it still goes out ?

[zealous forge]

Yes.

[celest thicket]

i see, i thought it had to have a proc of blast before the final blow for it to work

[zealous forge]

It won't cause a chain reaction if that's what you're asking, but if the enemy dies to the same hit that applies the Blast proc, then it will still blow up.

Combo that with the infinite punch through on the Fists and the fact that you can build them for stupid amounts of range, and you can nuke entire rooms with a single punch.

[celest thicket]

and blast damage does not scale with blast mods right ? only base damage

[zealous forge]

Correct.

That's why 60/60 would be better, so you are also adding a bit more status chance.

[celest thicket]

so something more like this ?

[zealous forge]

I would recommend replacing Organ Shatter for Galvanized Elementalist and Spoiled Strike for Weeping Wounds.

[celest thicket]

gonna have to buy weeping wounds later, never had this one

[zealous forge]

Galvanized Steel gives critical damage for it's stacking effect, and weeping wounds gives 440% status chance at 12x combo; which, you can maintain infinitely, if you put both Dexterity mods on your primary and Secondary weapons.

[zealous forge]

Dexterity ARCANES, my bad.

[fierce lark]

or just use naramon focus school

[ember condor]

Don’t forget you can also put them on your archgun for even more combo duration.

[celest thicket]

im a unairu guy

[zealous forge]

This is true, but you need the Heavy Weapon equipped in your gear wheel, and you need the gravimag installed.

[celest thicket]

for the rare moments something doesnt die in the first hit and i wanna strip

[fierce lark]

naramon as an option is there for any melee focused builds, one of the nodes give you infinite combo duration

not technically infinite but it decays 5 at a time rather than entirely

[celest thicket]

(truth is i didnt get the artifact for naramon yet and im too lazy to grind it right now)

[zealous forge]

I feel like 20 seconds of Combo Duration is more than enough though, to allow you flexibility in your focus tree.

[celest thicket]

btw, how does ability strenght affects landslide ?

[zealous forge]

My Atlas build only has 95% Strength.

[celest thicket]

its just like a addictive damage mod?

[zealous forge]

Actually that's wrong, I changed it recently. It has 139% Strength.

Transient Fortitude and Umbral Intensify are the only Strength modifiers I have.

[glass rampart]

They REALLY need to tone down the artifact gribd

[fierce lark]

usually it is

but then once in awhile it isn't, and you're a little annoyed when you drop combo

[zealous forge]

Idk, I've never personally had any issues whatsoever with 20 seconds, but different experiences I guess.

[fierce lark]

i also find it marginally less annoying to swap focus schools than swapping individual weapon arcanes

but that more comes from using different weapons constantly

i also don't have archgun adapters yet so that would probably change things

[zealous forge]

To be fair, I also do the archgun trick. I just tend to assume that whoever I'm talking to doesn't have the gravimag installed so I just tell them to put it on their primary and secondary weapons.

[celest thicket]

overextended i imagine ?

[zealous forge]

Yes. Maximum range.

[celest thicket]

mine is like this right now

i was actually thinking in using another forma and going for archon stretch to get a bit of passive energy (with the help of companion)

[zealous forge]

This is what I would recommend.

Those two augments are, in my opinion, required for an Atlas punch spam build.

Nourish to add even more damage to the Fists, and a bit of Viral.

[celest thicket]

i always forget rubble heap actually doubles the damage

[zealous forge]

Yes, it's insane.

[celest thicket]

then maybe i could remove adaptation and put rubble heap

i already "have" preparation as a tau yellow shard

[zealous forge]

That's fair.

[celest thicket]

steel charge is a worthwhile damage increase or its just for the capacity ?

[undone dust]

just capacity really
it's just additive damage so it's kind of negligible

[zealous forge]

No it's worthwhile. That and Arcane Fury are all of my base damage increases. It is why I run a Bane mod instead of Pressure Point.

or Primed Pressure Point, I should say.

[zealous forge]

I have done this build without it, the damage decrease is noticeable.

It goes from 50 million average, to 35-40 million average.

Still enough to one shot pretty much everything, but it is still less damage.

[celest thicket]

so thats come back to my question , how does strenght actually increases landslide damage ?

[undone dust]

yeah i feel like if you're one shotting either way it's negligible LMAO

[zealous forge]

It's like, not noticeable. That's why my strength is so low. I honestly only have ANY strength solely for Nourish.

Even at 313% Strength, my average damage was about 50 million.

With the same Landslide build.

[celest thicket]

i guess 2x is worse than 1,25

[drowsy pelican]

Do you think the dev that added Cascadia overcharged is a Dante player

[celest thicket]

who am i to doubt the game

[zealous forge]

Based take honestly.

[celest thicket]

thanks for the insight , im gonna keep working on it tomorrow , its literally 3am here

[zealous forge]

Yeah no problem. Good night!

[celest thicket]

good night

[drowsy pelican]

Anything I should change?

Sorry it’s on mobile

[lean tendon]

Is Ripkas just slapping Amalgam Ripkas True Steel Mod and be done with it or do you also put something else?

[torpid pine]

Im returning to the game and it seems modding has changed alot. Is there some like base mods i should always use for secondaries and melees?

[glass rampart]

Damn I've never seen someone play on mobile

Any phone that can play WF on mobile costs a fortune

[drowsy pelican]

I just use it for cracking relics on the bus

[glass rampart]

I just use my switch for that lol

[drowsy pelican]

I got a 16e but my old 11 could run it fine

[zealous rapids]

rage is practically useless on dante, you should never take hp damage

[glass rampart]

Yeah that's iPhone though

[drowsy pelican]

Doesn’t overguard proc it tho

[glass rampart]

Most iPhones cost a fortune

[zealous rapids]

only overguard from ally proc it, and only if you don't have shields

[drowsy pelican]

It was like $500-600ish

[glass rampart]

Yea man my switch 2 costs 450

I spend like 150 on a phone maybe less

[drowsy pelican]

Damn

I didn’t know phones could be that cheap

[glass rampart]

Im not using it for much anyway just social apps

[glass rampart]

Android

[drowsy pelican]

Obviously, but I expected 300 at the cheapest

[glass rampart]

300 is way too much wth you gotta look away from the luxury brands

[drowsy pelican]

I can only fathom some old flip phone being 150

[glass rampart]

My current phone is 116 usd

210 if you get the upgraded version

[zealous rapids]

you should farm more sanctum anatomica missions and put precision intensify on dante, since most of his power is in his 4th ability

[harsh bolt]

any tips to help me consistenly hit 1m?

[zealous rapids]

isn't there an augment that buff finisher damage for ash?

[harsh bolt]

is there?

[grim haven]

Yes bro @harsh bolt

[harsh bolt]

hello

[zealous rapids]

it's probably some other frame then, you can try subsuming silence from banshee and put savage silence

[harsh bolt]

that was my plan im currently crafting a banshee but i just wanted to know if there was anything i could do rn

[zealous rapids]

do you even get some crit hits with that exalted? I see you put crit mods on it but the stats look meh

[harsh bolt]

barely because of how low the base crit chance of the weapon is

[zealous rapids]

since it's fully damage based, I would just put 90 mods instead of 60/60

[upper rivet]

is this solid for wukong?

[harsh bolt]

i tried that but the 60/60 out performed

[harsh bolt]

use dreamers bond for more mod capacity and use streamline as well

[zealous rapids]

then ranking up arcanes is probably all you can do at this point

[upper rivet]

where can i get dreamers bond?

[zealous rapids]

you get it from one of the early game quests iirc

or from earth to venus junction

[harsh bolt]

fair im gonna try get a maxed melee retaliation

[harsh bolt]

its in u inv

[zealous rapids]

oh, yeah, you have it, the very 1st mod, universal aura

[upper rivet]

solid now?

[zealous rapids]

not bad, I would focus on more hp/armor than shields and maybe add some duration and strength

because wu can steal hp with his 2 to heal

[fierce lark]

you down own crescendo at any rank?

[harsh bolt]

nope

[upper rivet]

so change redirection?

[fierce lark]

huh

should do netracells at some point

even r0 crescendo is good enough, ash is spamming finishers

[zealous rapids]

yeah, I would put mod for ability duration increase instead of extra shields

[upper rivet]

alr

[mellow nimbus]

Are the tenet exec explosions suppose to deal more damage than the sampotes explosions?
I used to remember it's the other way around.
Or am I triggering some sort of interaction with exec that I'm not triggering with sampotes.

[upper rivet]

what should i upgrade now?

[mellow nimbus]

If ur having problems with energy and unable to spam 2 then upgrade equilibrium or streamline

[zealous rapids]

switch vitality and continuity places you should put mods into matching polarity slot

then maybe rank up steel fiber a bit too

[upper rivet]

ohhhhhhh

[upper rivet]

alr

then equilibrium?

[zealous rapids]

if you have problems with energy, sure

or you can try how it performs and think what to change next

[upper rivet]

alr ty

[rare lichen]

with wrathful advance, yes

[fierce lark]

how y'all feel about the hydroid augments

[lavish orbit]

There's a new one ?

[fierce lark]

nah

[icy seal]

What do you think: left 3-rd ability of Hildryn or change for Chroma skill? Your choice and why?

[lavish orbit]

Viral tempest is good but meh, a good viral primer can be better, 2nd augment is a good support if you want to subsume over 4th, 3rd is good to maximize the effect of the ability, plus if you want to healthtank with it, the heal is a must, 4th is just more loot you know the deal

[zealous rapids]

pilfering swarm is 4th augment, 1st one is viral tempest

[lavish orbit]

You're right

Ty

[zealous rapids]

for farming, his 4th have 100% drop chance and only really limited by how much mobs it can grab at a time

I have not used hydroid enough to say anything about his other abilities

[fierce lark]

im just picking him up for EDA this week

[viscid bane]

Anybody got a good buld for Voruna as a melee platform?

[lavish orbit]

I use 3rd augment and depending of my survival tool I sometimes use the 2nd one on hl content

[next dune]

so i do know that the supra vandal isn't the best of weapons, but still one of my faves. synoid simulor too. but i'd like help with the builds

uh... wat

why can't i post my screenshots?

ok apparently i just can't post them all at once

but does anyone got advice? i'm currently maining uriel

[glad jackal]

does anyone know how to make the Phahd Scaffold shoot 3 disc at the same time

because the language barrier is killing me

[barren orbit]

Are Garudas melee weapons anything special

[lavish orbit]

No

[strong knot]

hiii i need help i just clamed my Sevagoth prime but but he look soooo bad
i am soo disappointed what ugly piece of shit is this T-T

why he is covering my crosshair

is there any way i can fix that

[rare lichen]

cantic prism, phahd scaffold and certus brace is the best amp imo

547

Phahd scaffold is the one that shoots discs using alt fire

[glad jackal]

yeah I know that

I did get the answer though: it was from Duviri Decree

[zealous rapids]

yeah, some decree have universal buffs that affect amp too

[fallow mist]

how does furis incarnon compares to kuva nukor? i got a good riven for furis

[quiet laurel]

Slightly less AoE but much higher dps

Furis has the highest raw dmg dps from any secondary if the enemy isnt status capped

[fallow mist]

wondering about my setups. i was thunking burston incarnon before, but w the riven i got i think furis might be the better choice. and then coda bassocyst for aoe i guess?

[severe zephyr]

Would blue regen shards on qorvex be a good solution to his lack of innate healing?

[fallow mist]

btw nukor is also status dependant, right?

[quiet laurel]

Wouldnt say dependant cause of the high crit dmg it has but it plays a decently big part in its dps ye

[quiet laurel]

Qorvex cannot be saved

You should sell him for credits fr fr

What was the regen on blue shards again

[severe zephyr]

I will make qorvex functional

[fallow mist]

my riven btw

[severe zephyr]

5%/s or 7.5%/s

[fallow mist]

subsume!

[quiet laurel]

Percent?

Wasnt it 5 health

[severe zephyr]

Yes

P sure it was %

Not at pc rn to check

[fallow mist]

it seems decent enough i think

[old marsh]

Furis Incarnon is a flamethrower
Kuva Nukor is a beam

[fallow mist]

ignis wraith all over again?

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-gif-14703996692572024314

[quiet laurel]

Its 5 health/s so yeah

Its insanely bad

[next dune]

we need more actual flamethrowers

[fallow mist]

i guess for straight DPS, burston incarnon might be a better choice, then? and then i find an AOE secondary

[quiet laurel]

Max it out and see the crit dmg stat, if its not better than your current crit dmg mod then this riven is not really usable

[old marsh]

Kuva Ignis incoming

[next dune]

we literally have 2 flamethrower skins but only one flamethrower (alt variants dont count)

[fallow mist]

iirc burston is not status dependant

[severe zephyr]

Oh well

[quiet laurel]

That is furis

[next dune]

hell no. we need a DIFFERENT flamethrower. not another iteration of the same one

[severe zephyr]

5x7.5hp/s is still decent

[quiet laurel]

Thats horrible

[fallow mist]

ik, it was more of a question 😄

[quiet laurel]

He doesnt even have a DR ability to warrant DR tanking

[severe zephyr]

It will be functional

[fallow mist]

i think the crit damage is 113% damage

on the riven

[quiet laurel]

Yeah then that riven isnt really good

[severe zephyr]

I mean. My build is approaching 90% DR from armor

[quiet laurel]

Thata not good

Not cause your build is bad but cause qorvex is just designed to be bad

[severe zephyr]

Add in arcane persistence and it gud

[severe zephyr]

Ok noted, your build advice is biased and not of value

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-smirk-dog-smirking-evil-gif-1174039551531775064

[quiet laurel]

Type shi

The 1.7k rad dmg king needs all the praise so DE will never buff him 🗣️

[fallow mist]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGeC0Rx6O6w kengineer has a build on qorvex, but its from 2024

[quiet laurel]

Do you have primed target cracker

[fallow mist]

yeah

[tepid turtle]

so does the crit chance from orange archon shards stack?

[astral crescent]

can someone recommend a 0 forma gauss prime build?

[fallow mist]

i think all crit chances stuff stack

[quiet laurel]

Then you are trading slightly faster incarnon transfer and 0.1% more crit dmg for negative double dipped dot damage against corpus

Wouldnt say its worth

[tepid turtle]

no i mean if i put two orange shards, sorry i worded that wrong

[quiet laurel]

It stacks additively

[fallow mist]

i think so

[severe zephyr]

Should I keep rolling

[fallow mist]

all shards stack so far

[tepid turtle]

so it would be 75% not 200%?

[quiet laurel]

If you have 2 shards that give 75% crit chance then the total bonus of the shards is 150% additive crit chance

[old marsh]

that is such a bad roll

[severe zephyr]

Is it tho

No recoil, high status

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/table-mess-lmao-laugh-gif-5126644939264248578

[mellow nimbus]

regarding Nova's Molecular Prime,
A) are enemies primed when they git hit by the wave?
or
B) are enemies primed as long as they are inside the circle? like when they spawn inside the circle when the wave has already passed.

[old marsh]

that riven so bad that u might as well sell Aeolak

[tepid turtle]

i see unfortunately i dont have them tauforged lol

[old marsh]

yes. yes. but her 4's duration is very small. so be mindful

[severe zephyr]

No

Aeolak is gud gun

[old marsh]

oh it is

but that riven is so horrible u might as well delete the weapon itself

[severe zephyr]

Riven funneh, make gud gun guuder

[old marsh]

on a serious note. u want CD for sure. 2nd one is flex

but -FR is really bad

[severe zephyr]

Sometimes I value funny over optimal

[severe zephyr]

And really easily negated

Ngl having no recoil feels wrong but it's so funny

[lavish orbit]

Why asking if you should keep rolling then

[old marsh]

he did a lil' trolling

[midnight horizon]

fr

[severe zephyr]

Maybe it could be funnier

I'm optimizing the silly

[next dune]

having multiple iterations of the same weapon is boring and useless. because if we got a kuva ignis, the ignis wraith would just be thrown away by everyone because the kuva version would be way better

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-its-okay-pet-gif-10242949

[next dune]

also it was never said they were gonna talk about kuva liches. they could be revealing an entirely new adversary. like a tau based one

[old marsh]

i can get behind that

and plz be Coda style. Kuva and Sisters r too RNG centric

[next dune]

i want more adversary types. like duviri, tau, murmur, ect

[next dune]

i'd prefer not the coda style. because we are limited to what is in that shop. where as i just just run and farm sisters/liches for whatever one i need to power up a weapon i'm working on. i dont have to wait almost a week to get a new copy

[fallow mist]

i like coda style tbh

[next dune]

the store or the farm?

[fallow mist]

the farm

[carmine magnet]

Coda shop is v boring honestly, I like the personal connection of the earlier liches. And it's less waiting than the biweekly shop, yea.

[old marsh]

most people do. DE will decide. not like we can do anything

[carmine magnet]

It's v trivial to cycle liches now.

[next dune]

the farm is different. it's the best one, but the thing i hate is the store. the kuva liches are the one that needs to be reworked. i can do a sister in less than half the time it takes to do a lich

[fallow mist]

i thought the shop resetted every day and the rotation would change?

oh, i guess only the status change, and its weekly

[next dune]

no. every 3 days the shop rotates

[old marsh]

4

[fallow mist]

got it

[next dune]

and there's two sets it resets between

[fallow mist]

i like the store and the farm, i guess

[severe zephyr]

I like the streamlined farm, I dislike the store

And the very genericalized designs and personalities

[old marsh]

how about new system has BOTH. a shop and a system to farm weapons normally

[fallow mist]

i mean, i wish the store had all weapons every day

[carmine magnet]

They don't quite hit that 'rival' feeling, yea

[old marsh]

so those who want to buy can do so. others who want to get the weapon right away, can do so as well

[fallow mist]

oh no the designs are the worst part imo

i vanquished 3 or 4 codas

[severe zephyr]

Yea

[fallow mist]

and they all had the same appearance, except for one

the ephemeras are all right, nothing too exciting either

[severe zephyr]

I like most of the ephemeras

[fallow mist]

idk, i like simpler ephemeras

[severe zephyr]

They are pretty simple

[fallow mist]

i dont dig an eye in the back of my frame for example

[severe zephyr]

That's one of the coda ephemeras I use the most

[next dune]

yeah i dont mind have to reroll liches/sisters but the problem is how much time investment is needed in liches. sisters are usually relatively quick. but it takes forever to do liches, especially if you dont have an ultimatum or ooul

[fallow mist]

i dont even remember how to do liches anymore

2022 was the last time i did a kuva lich

wish DE reworked the liches farm to something more akin to coda

[old marsh]

back in my day we had to reset kuva fortress progress twice before the lich would finally spawn

[next dune]

you find larvaling. stab. lich spawns. do missions on nodes lich controls. stab thralls for murmurs to learn rune. put rune on parazon. stab lich to find order. stab through all 3 bars, runs to railjack. murder

[next dune]

back in my day, if you failed a stab, your lich killed you with no bleedout timer activation so you couldn't be revived by teammates

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-crying-meme-doggo-crys-megan-soo-crying-dog-gif-5276199764143986284

cant even say good ol' days. it was agony

[next dune]

no kidding

it was so painful if you failed. they changed that relatively quickly tho. people were understandably pissed about it

[barren orbit]

Are they worth using

[next dune]

not as far as i'm aware. in order to even use them, you have to not equip a melee. and even if they are good, there are other weapons that are way better

[glossy mauve]

What mods should I use on wukong? I'm mainly gonna be spamming his staff and the cloud walk

[nova swift]

I havent checked but they used to count both as a normal weapon and as ability damage, so they worked with archon mods

[old marsh]

Primal Rage
Rest is to have balanced stats. No need to dump efficiency for more STR. U can go negative range

[viscid bane]

Need help conceptualizing the build. Need a EHP tanking melee platform + Sword. Thinking Valk + Skana incarnon but are there other options?

[nova swift]

for a comfy melee platform weapon be sure to check out a nikana zaw with exodia contagion

gives you a ranged option, and you can use a daikyu to add 3% lifesteal to it

garuda can also pull off a melee build, and the same for excalibur /w furious javelin

[viscid bane]

When I say sword, I mean like Skana, Broken War etc

I'm making a cosplay build. Watched the new JJK episode and got inspired

[lavish orbit]

Like draconis said, usable but there is better, if you are a fan of Garuda why not

[gray garden]

how do i choose which element to use when using chroma's helminth

nvm

[hoary oak]

Do I go for multishot with this? Or add more toxic for more viral? Which one deals more damage?

[mellow nimbus]

i should use the cestra incarnon more often

[green gyro]

id use acuity for knell tbh

since you actually need headshots

[nova swift]

I dont think he has acuity yet considering his modlist is sorted by drain

[nova swift]

So one tip for buildcrafting is to think of each multiplier as its own damage bucket. So you have %damage, %elemental, Crit, faction damage etc

Multishot is one of those damage buckets. So if you add a 90% toxic mod while you already have 240% elemental damage on your weapon that is not as much of an increase then 120% more multishot

because the damage is %damage x %multishot x %elemental damage etc. So knowing which "damage bucket" gives you the most increase is important

[steady epoch]

What’s wrong with sorting by drain? lol I still do it

[nova swift]

I also sort by drain, but acuity costs 16 at max rank and we see 14-6 here

[steady epoch]

Ahhh I see

[nova swift]

weakspot damage is also a damage bucket, so hampter is right in that acuity is good here cause you shootin heads with knell anyway

[trim hill]

Sorting by drain is for weaklings (I can only slot R7 Serration)

[nova swift]

that moment when you have an r8 mod slotted but you would have to remove it from 50 builds to level it up so you rather not

[trim hill]

BIG truth

[hoary oak]

Will fire rate affect Knell? Since headshot turns the gun full auto

[nova swift]

it will yea, its actually a pretty good dps increase

once you proc the buff its all free ammo so go ham (not familiar with knell's recoil tho)

[hoary oak]

Yeah recoil is ass, but it makes up for damage especially with consecutive headshots

[green gyro]

yes

fire rate is huge increase

[hoary oak]

It's a fun gun, similar to Rubico

Difference is, I can run and shoot with Knell

[marsh wasp]

Now I have Support Kullervo

[icy seal]

Furax Wraith - can anyone give build not only for stat-stick? Can these gloves punish? Influence or something else?

Affliction with slam?

What is better?

[kindred pumice]

whats a good arcane for melee

[viscid bane]

Does Archon Intestify work from Valk's life steal?

[coral crest]

It has a slam focused incarnon form

Can probably work from here

[latent latch]

Hey sorry for asking so late but with galvanized scope do I have to all was kill enemies with head shots?

[glossy mauve]

Should I just go for more total dmg or for more reach, atk speed and initial combo on wukong's iron staff?

[glossy mauve]

Melee.... Influence....?

[velvet pulsar]

80% CC & CD vs 300% CC
What's better for Velocitus & Toxocyst?

[red moat]

Depends on what you want to achieve with ur melee. But as far as I know, a generally good arcane is influence

[spiral valve]

so, I wanted to put some good riven stats on my Mios and now I am choosing between these two. On one hand, pure slash and melee damage seems solid, but... status chance and electricity. I could mod it into corrosive... It's so hard to choose :"D

[trim hill]

Imo, the elemental is probably better since +slash doesn't actually increase your slash procc's damage. And Defiled Snapdragon already has some guaranteed slash proccs, so the status weighting towards slash is less important, as well

[azure pecan]

elec riven obviously, influence exists

if you dont like influence then idk, prob neither

[velvet pulsar]

(context is outburst vs Cascadia Overcharge)

[green gyro]

you wouldn't mod corrosive

just influence unfortunately, so pick right

[modern vale]

Hmmm
If you have the Condition Overload mod for Melle, then choose electric + status.
If you don't have it, then I recommend Melle damage with slash damage.

Viral with Slash is a good option if you have a mod like Weepings Wounds for high status chance.
But if you prefer/use a lot of corrosive, status chance with electric is also good. Unfortunately, this choice depends a lot on your playstyle + your builds

[green gyro]

there's literally no scenario where left is good

and you can't have corrosive electric

the answer is "right, keep rolling"

[trim hill]

At MR8 (which is when you unlock the Mios), they may not have much else. +200% dmg is a very nice stat to have if mods are limited. But you're right - at least the elec roll has more flexibility as they expand their mod library and buildcrafting, even if they never go for an Influence build

[fathom sky]

If you don't have much else I figured you want to get your regular mods sorted out before even bothering to do Rivens.

[trim hill]

One would figure - but that's not always the case, esp with new(er) players still learning the 2billion things needed for modding in Warframe

Although, looking at that riven, they wouldn't be able to use it until MR13 anyways, so

[fathom sky]

Weapons are easy, just a matter of learning where the hell the mods are. Getting the template down is a sinch and then you just "upgrade" to the better mods after that

[trim hill]

If you're modding using a template, do you really know "how" to mod?

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-guy-relaxing-popcorm-popcorn-gif-26404903

[fathom sky]

The template covers the generic weapons, which would be most of them thanks to Influence being lame. After that you figure out the weirder stuff, and even then, a lot of the stats overlap.

Most melee builds have DMG, CC, CD, SC, Attack Speed, Faction, then the other two slots for something like Elec for Influence. Then when you go into stuff like Glaives and heavy attack, those got their own "template"

A lot of weapons are just boring, sadly

[severe bough]

ocucor incarnon when

[fathom sky]

Light spam, heavy spam, glaive, slam spam and that's pretty much every big weapon category that has a central build

[old marsh]

Tenet Ocucor soon

[celest thicket]

Remember when a toxic ancient was the most dangerous thing you could find ?

(Maybe for hildryn it still is ?)

[velvet pulsar]

It's not a corpus weapon, it's a sentient weapon.

Hence Tauforged Ocucor.

[old marsh]

is it? huh. always thought it was. my b then

[velvet pulsar]

You're likely about to feel dumb, but can u remember what exactly made ocucor good?

[uneven halo]

Augment

[velvet pulsar]

Exactly, and what's the name of it?

[uneven halo]

Sentient surge?

[velvet pulsar]

Yes
So the very thing which made it good made it obvious that it was Sentient.

[uneven halo]

Yep hehe

[uneven halo]

Lol

[old marsh]

he isnt top 10. told ya.

[uneven halo]

Hellfire and cryo rounds prime

[modern vale]

The high status change made me think a bit.

[old marsh]

like top 30 as i predicted

[velvet pulsar]

Lavos Prime

[severe bough]

[mossy juniper]

i wanna build Syrn into a platform so should i do

• Kuva Sobek
• Cedo Prime

[old marsh]

sobek

[night quarry]

Anyone got a late game ignis wrath build

[old marsh]

also magistar is most used melee if u combine both variants. another prediction i was right about @fierce lark

[viscid bane]

Broadsword recommendations?

[green gyro]

this year?

[old marsh]

2025

[green gyro]

the recap is out?

[old marsh]

ye

[green gyro]

it's 2026 now

[green gyro]

Link?

[old marsh]

https://www.warframe.com/stats

[stable walrus]

is this really best damage build to cedo prime? (I'm using oraxia) Isn't better use primed point blank or others damage mods?

[old marsh]

Monke at the top

Wukong has been in top 3 ever since his launch. Monke always meta

[viscid bane]

Savy is better because it can have more base dmg + I assume the build also uses Primary merciless

[stable walrus]

oky

I'll buy primary merciless

[viscid bane]

Don't. just go to SP. You can get it pretty fast at max rank

[stable walrus]

should I keep the rest of the build? or change something

[green gyro]

it's super cheap tho

[viscid bane]

Looks fine to me. Mag Strafe looks like a flex slot to me so feel free to change it to something else

[green gyro]

nah mag strafe is good

free savvy element and good against overguard

[viscid bane]

Btw you can go for primed point blank if you want but then change arcane to primary blight

Anybody knows about saws here? What would be a good Mewan sword type zaw and how would it compare to Broken War/Prisma Skana Incarnon?

I also have this if it matters

[glossy mauve]

Should I replace killing blow with spoiled strike on xoris?

[sudden niche]

Quick question about Mesa's Regulators
Are they always pinpoint accurate regardless of mods?
For example, if I install Magnum Force (+165% Damage -55% Accuracy), will they start missing or will they still always hit perfectly?

[viscid bane]

Should be always accurate but why not just use galv shot?

[severe bough]

bruh finally

[sudden niche]

I was theorycrafting
I think if Archon Shards didn't exist I'd try for something like Magnum Force, but I think I'll go for the Orange Shard stacking crit on heat kills thing so Galv Shot will defo be better with that

[severe bough]

wukong being place one was actually unthinkable lmao

[velvet pulsar]

It's either the chinese abusing bugs or the newbies falling into slamkong temptation

[severe bough]

bruh i used slamkong one time in casc then never again

[old marsh]

i predicted it. people called me mad coz slamkong was nerfed

[severe bough]

wheres saryn even on that list

[velvet pulsar]

I've seen tenno less than MR 10 having a wukong and a magistar

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/mcmahon-crying-he-was-special-wwe-vince-mcmahon-gif-13313547165599993551

[severe bough]

cyte down there bruh

[severe bough]

the more suprising thing was what does tenet envoy does up there lmao

[severe bough]

[old marsh]

called it. lemme pull up my message

[severe bough]

tenet envoy cyte soon?

[vocal vector]

what is the neutralizer built for usually?

[velvet pulsar]

My most used frame is Nyx and my most used weapon is Toxocyst in 2025.
No shocker. There's huge difference between 1st and 2nd rank.
I truly became a Nyx main.

Shattered Lash is my most used ability was a shocker though.

[old marsh]

for me it was cloud walker and not thermal sunder or shattered lash

like how lol

[velvet pulsar]

That's...
I was about to say something racist against that but I reminded myself that I only hate slamkong, not wukong himself.

Probably the older community might hate wukong himself though.

[old marsh]

oop. forgot it was a thing. no wonder lol

[velvet pulsar]

Oh hey look! I was watching Dragon Ball and I just noticed a monkey transformation.

Must be a sign...

[trim hill]

Ngl, I miss playing OG Wukong, lol

[velvet pulsar]

The AoE spammer?

[trim hill]

No, where Defy was his immortality ability

[velvet pulsar]

It feels like the chinese have figured out to revert the ammo consumption nerf of wuklone

[midnight horizon]

I wonder what would realistically happen if all Warframes had an extra mod slot to a total of 9 mod slots + 1 exilus + 1 aura mod.

[velvet pulsar]

Which explains why so big numbers for Tenet Envoy

[velvet pulsar]

That one extra slot will be for augments

[midnight horizon]

You could slap all WF augments on without thinking about it that much.

[old marsh]

as an avid Envoy user (its my 5th most used primary), it actually doesnt have ammo issues.

it can clear early SP easily but falls flat in EDA/ETA

[velvet pulsar]

But why that over any other AoE primary?

Biggest blast radius?

Good ammo economy?

[old marsh]

yes and yes

[velvet pulsar]

Is the fire rate decent?

[old marsh]

decent

its the damn reload thats annoying

[velvet pulsar]

I was initially thinking to build a Tenet Tetra alt fire spam setup but this has got me rethinking.

[old marsh]

2.4 seconds AFTER this reload mod

[velvet pulsar]

Reload is not my issue

[old marsh]

i tried getting reload on my riven but it wasnt good

[velvet pulsar]

What are u using in exilus?

[old marsh]

tetra's alt fire is worse in comparison.

[old marsh]

speed

[velvet pulsar]

What I'm only concerned with, is it worse in fire rate or worse in blast radius?

Coz it bounces so quite a lot of blast zones to cover.

Coz 2 days ago I found out that Uriel can easily use alt fires while flying in his 1.

[old marsh]

blast radius is same. but its the ammo economy

[velvet pulsar]

That's not an issue then