builds-discussion

[mighty flare]

look at the build i posted up

work towards completing quests to get sacrificial mods
work towards venus to get amalgam mods
work towards deimos for condition overload and then orokin vaults for corrupt charge

[hearty scarab]

Blast would just be diluting at that point but maybe not but I also doubt

[near vortex]

as boring as Torid is, you gotta admit it gets the job done

[hearty scarab]

Pure tox Torid is pretty hard to beat in terms of dps besides heat dps Torid

[tardy lily]

I hated it ever since I saw a L4 die while he was running a torid and revenant that memory is now burnt in my head

[solar reef]

also, @still vessel, we havent really mentioned this yet, but we are directing you into a heavy spam build atp

The Syam does that best

[tardy lily]

We weren't even in toxic infested places

[solar reef]

Just spam heavy attacks with it

[near vortex]

pure tox is highest DPS but needs external viral priming and strip where applicable

I use Corro Blast on mine because it's easy

[hearty scarab]

Yeah?

[solar reef]

i usually just slap primed tox mod on to my weapons as a damage cope since i only play frames that max prime

[near vortex]

Torid's just a great trash clearing weapon the way I use it

I got my goat the Furis for single target

[solar reef]

“the way i use it”
looks inside
thats how everyone uses it

[still vessel]

i havent been playing that long im really confused on what yall are talking about but okay!

[near vortex]

The single target DPS variants exist

[hearty scarab]

Okay correction blast tox Torid is technically better than pure tox IF enemies are grouped

[solar reef]

we’re saying that, with syam specifically, you should focus on heavy attacks

[near vortex]

Yeah it's better trash clear worse single target I think

[hearty scarab]

If they are not then pure tox is still the higher

[solar reef]

if you’re on console, its your right joystick while holding your melee out

[still vessel]

ohh okay, im also playing mesa so im using guns a lot too

[midnight horizon]

What does crux do again

[mighty flare]

1.6x cd does not bode well for crit builds

[velvet pulsar]

Which is why pushing it with blight and probably tenacious if possible

It still reaches decent threshold

Even without tenacious

[chrome badge]

i don't think crux is usuable

[velvet pulsar]

I doubt that too

[chrome badge]

isn't larkspur a chain beam?

[velvet pulsar]

That's not the big problem
The problem is the main beam is also aggressively homing

[chrome badge]

yeah thats a worse problem

[velvet pulsar]

Likely targets the center of mass

[chrome badge]

ig primary blight is the way to go

[mighty flare]

it is

[chrome badge]

it is?

[mighty flare]

yes

[chrome badge]

if you say so, im not bothering with fact checking or getting archguns

[buoyant patio]

Doesn't the beam only auto-target things when you're hip-firing?

[chrome badge]

plus heist is so tediousssss

[buoyant patio]

I could've swore if you were aiming it didn't do that and let you go for headshots.

[mighty flare]

do 2/4 people in here not even have larkspur

💀

[buoyant patio]

I have Larkspur, I'm speaking from experience.

[mighty flare]

goodie

[chrome badge]

last archgun i've consiously gotten was corvas prime to do pts

and i haven't touched pt in like years now

[mighty flare]

dont even use corvas prime for pt 💔

[velvet pulsar]

So with primary blight added, my build can reach 6.14 CD without tenacious bond.
Without blight, it's 3.84

[chrome badge]

i dunno whats metta for it even or how ppl do it nowadays

[velvet pulsar]

This seems good enough to me

[chrome badge]

i've heard cyte is used for it but like how? he's so squishy

[mighty flare]

he is not

[velvet pulsar]

U r not required to tank the boss

[chrome badge]

ik but its inevitable with the swarm spawning in

[velvet pulsar]

U can shoot from 400-500m away and the boss will still take damage

The swarm doesn't spawn on tall surfaces

[chrome badge]

fr?

hm i might try it out after i do my archimedias tdy

[velvet pulsar]

This isn't speedrun focused but I assume minmaxers can optimize anything
https://youtu.be/1fkPFF48y3A?si=Up1eTpZDyNDyexhq

I did the entire fight from a coolant tower

[mighty flare]

8min pt vid...

[chrome badge]

wow shameless plug

:3

[velvet pulsar]

I can send a 16 min next time

If u would've watched it u would realize the run itself isn't 8 min

But sure, it's a non-minmaxed meme run

If I would've tried to optimize this playstyle and practiced a little, might be able to reduce it significantly

[chrome badge]

goly that velocitus dmg is unholy

[velvet pulsar]

And that's before archgun arcanes

[chrome badge]

well i mean i've only gotten 1 adapter from nokko grind so it doesn't really matter

[velvet pulsar]

Same

[mighty flare]

arachne when you're alr running madurai...

:glorpcat:

[velvet pulsar]

Madurai buffs in real time
U cannot just cast it and then shoot all shots and it'll keep the damage

It's tedious

U would know if u tried nightwatch napalm with madurai

[mighty flare]

you know whats better n easier than arachne

vig swap

[velvet pulsar]

Vigorous swap or holster amp

Like I said, if I tried to minmax this, it'd be a lot faster

I still don't have vig swap

I'm planning to spend arbi tokens on the emote before that

That emote is very cool

[mighty flare]

using arachne is tedious

[velvet pulsar]

Sure is, but atleast it has more duration

[mighty flare]

you dont need long duration just gooba timing

[chrome badge]

hmmmmm could i use sporothrix to bypass the shields on the pylons?

[mighty flare]

😔

[chrome badge]

or should i just resort to cyte's seek buff

[velvet pulsar]

I'll figure out the timing with vigorous swap when I get it

[velvet pulsar]

Only 1 + 4 can bypass pylons

[mighty flare]

zenith :knowers:

[velvet pulsar]

No other sniper with just 1 can bypass it

[grave cloak]

crows who mow

[mighty flare]

rather use a goob pt runner than cyte

:glorp:

[midnight horizon]

Do y'all unironically use arachne

[chrome badge]

i mean i have both cyte and lavos

[mighty flare]

no

[chrome badge]

no

[midnight horizon]

I find it so tedious to wall latch every 15s or so

[mighty flare]

do not arachne on pt

[velvet pulsar]

On some, yes

[velvet pulsar]

30s

Ofc oraxia is just perma story

Sure loki can enjoy that too with his passive

[mighty flare]

no wonder why my hildryn felt off

teacher quest moment

[velvet pulsar]

Molt hildryn

[mighty flare]

fastest subsume

[velvet pulsar]

U use melee buffers?

[mighty flare]

wdym

[velvet pulsar]

Movement speed perks

Affects her 4

[mighty flare]

furax

[velvet pulsar]

Fair

[mighty flare]

also molt spam helps locate enemies

[velvet pulsar]

Why locate them when ur AoE can bypass walls
Trigger checks

[mighty flare]

incase any were missed

[velvet pulsar]

Just shoot and see dmg number

Also do u use ground support pet or sentinel?

[mighty flare]

raksa kubrow

sentinels for diff stuff

[karmic quartz]

is there any Oberon augment that is really good?

same question for Xaku since i have their prime and i havent been playing them much

[mighty flare]

no augments for xaku

[karmic quartz]

they're all bad?

[mighty flare]

not worth using

[velvet pulsar]

For oberon, it's slightly useful, but rare case

[mighty flare]

oberon has slightly more useful but only situationally augments

hallowed reckoning lets him use arcane battery when no renewal and good fallout primer
phoenix renewal good for skill issues

other 2 are not worth

oh

[velvet pulsar]

Smite Infusion...
Rarely useful

[mighty flare]

apparently xaku augment slows eximus but i havent verified

[velvet pulsar]

Still a damage increase nonetheless

[velvet pulsar]

This better be true or the nerf from 100% cap to 95% wasn't worth it

[mighty flare]

the only thing

is that it be might be a bug and we lose it

:deadge:

[velvet pulsar]

smite the shite

[mighty flare]

i am sad about smite changes

they improved the single target dps in exchange for completely nuking the aoe component

losing max health scaling into current health i also bummer

[karmic quartz]

so hallowed reckoning i assume?

unless i wanna babysit the team on steel path by having phoenix

[mighty flare]

if ur gonna use 1, i'd use that

[mighty flare]

his passive is babysitting ur teammates too

[karmic quartz]

im mostly against subsuming so i'll probably be using it

better slightly useful change than nothing

[chrome badge]

idk how ppl be nuking with oberon

feels wrong somehow

[mighty flare]

it was possible with old reckoning before jade update when enemies got super inflated health
old smite being weapon coded and scaling with max health let it do lots of damage

[chrome badge]

i mean nuking with new oberon

[latent adder]

%hp dmg

[mighty flare]

new smite still scales with health but current instead of max

[quiet laurel]

so they killed smite or still usable?

[chrome badge]

its usuable still

[mighty flare]

still possible to pull off "nuke" but much more annoying than old smite

[chrome badge]

but needs softening up iirc

[quiet laurel]

so its a nerf

[mighty flare]

tldr: DE heavily nerfed Smite AOE to make Single-Target perform more consistently

you need combination of viral + roar/rr + shards to make it consistent where old smite didnt

[quiet laurel]

ok so more investment for less AoE basically

das crazy

[mighty flare]

i miss old smite

reckoning buffs were nothing burger too

[quiet laurel]

so oberon is just rev at home

[mighty flare]

sure yeah

weird design

[quiet laurel]

can he also health tank like valkyr at cap or nah

[carmine dew]

DE when they are reworking a frame: alright so their passive or one of their abilities now gives them invulnerability

[mighty flare]

i remember seeing a vid of that, would i recommend it? no

[quiet laurel]

I mean yeah obviously

[mighty flare]

yea its doable

[quiet laurel]

half of your mod space + arcanes + companion vs 3 mods

[mighty flare]

same thing as big armor + healing

[quiet laurel]

i really dislike their approach to wanting to satisfy every player with a singular rework

we had it with valkyr rework and now with oberon

[carmine dew]

to this day I am so confused by the valkyr rework when they said they wanted to get rid of her "uninteractive invulnerability"

[mighty flare]

oberon rework
valkyr rework
nokko passive & 3

[carmine dew]

because now she's arguably even easier and less energy hungry to play than she was

and yeah since then we get a new frame with a 3 that turns him into a stupid little mushroom that is invulnerable for negligible drain

[mighty flare]

death gate + shroom walker

[quiet laurel]

frames are losing their identity with these reworks/kit additions

[latent adder]

ehh no id say buff

[carmine dew]

and ngl i've noticed some serious damage creep with the SP mushroom bounties

[quiet laurel]

every frame is a health tank that can go invincible

[latent adder]

old smite sucked for 'nuking'

[carmine dew]

those mfs hit so hard

[latent adder]

u could kill maybe 3 guys at a time

now i can gauarantee 16m nuke

[quiet laurel]

do you need viral

[carmine dew]

imo the issue is that it feels like they want frames to just have everything and be good at everything

[mighty flare]

yes

[carmine dew]

and its like sure, some frames like caliban and qorvex that seem to be designed with specific strengths and weaknesses get giga left behind

but the end result is that frames are so silly strong rn

[quiet laurel]

just have frames be niche with their mechanics and buffs so that people actually have to play the game and cant steamroll through the game with 1 frame

[mighty flare]

new smite without viral feels bad, run tazicor nautilus

[quiet laurel]

results of people being able to do all content with a singular frame is sometimes nothing else being built and then complains rising that certain frames struggle with certain content

[carmine dew]

because icl the state of current warframe is like, trying to talk yourself out of playing saryn or whatever lol

like the handful of giga strong S tier frames

like oberon rn is basically revenant at home but the smite AOE nuke is slightly less annoying to pull off than the reave AOE nuke

[quiet laurel]

I mean another thing is I would love to play the game but I definitely wont be playing the game with the ass recoil changes

gotta wait for old peace 🥀

[quiet laurel]

I just look at my arsenal and think "hmmm do I wanna play cyte, saryn or equinox for this mission"

other frames dont even come to mind

[carmine dew]

yeah 😭

like whens the last time you played like hydroid

[quiet laurel]

in EDA

actually nvm

havent even played him there

[mighty flare]

i did eta hydroid and it was chill

[quiet laurel]

its just the comparison
you have saryn that just needs to press 3 buttons for the best buffs in the game and then you have hydroid who to be fair doesnt have the worst buffs but needs enemy density to be good values

its just annoying to play

[carmine dew]

yeah its like hmm I could play baruuk and deal with some strong exalted aoe performance but have to deal with annoying restraint mechanics

or I could play equinox and press one button for literal roomwide nukes

[quiet laurel]

oraxia is also a good example of this
saryn buff that doesnt work on melees but nothing else that is effective with its usage that also buffs your weapons

so why even play her lmao

[carmine dew]

ngl I played like 2 or 3 rounds of isleweaver when it came out and then havent touched it since 😭

[quiet laurel]

same

[carmine dew]

sorry oraxia but your mode is too boring so I wont be playing her

[quiet laurel]

I just bought her with plat

and then I realized how ass she is to play

and went back to saryn/cyte

[quiet laurel]

is the new gamemode any good at all

or is it just recycling of old missions like usual

[carmine dew]

reskinned bounties lol

they go pretty quick at least

and the farm isnt timegated

but yeah nothing spesh

[quiet laurel]

so just glorified filler patch

[carmine dew]

yeah its a filler patch like koumei and jade and whatnot

[quiet laurel]

tbf jade had one of the most game changing changes so wouldnt call it filler

it had a good quest + event

[velvet pulsar]

Half of the map is copy pasted and u cannot use Necramech but solo pause is disabled which means it's still partially open world

[carmine dew]

solo pause being disabled is severely annoying tbh

[velvet pulsar]

Worst of both worlds

[carmine dew]

i didn't notice it the first time

[quiet laurel]

ngl I cant think of a thing that is a good change this update at least from what I heard and saw

everything just sounds so ass 😭

ig archgun arcanes

but since archguns still have limited use potential its still not gonna make them viable in actual missions

[velvet pulsar]

Initially I had the same understanding

Though I'm gonna distract myself at archguns, new subsume, probably gonna try janus vor finally after attenuation changes, and gonna change my navigator builds because of the unnecessary patch

[velvet pulsar]

There's a good news

Dexterity arcanes work even when archgun is disabled

[quiet laurel]

aye at least 1 good change

[velvet pulsar]

Naramon's barely alive advantages have been taking more hits

[quiet laurel]

is nokko any good to play or is it just people being held at gun point forced to talk good about him

[mighty flare]

hes good nuker

[velvet pulsar]

First of all, his subsume.
It recovers energy over time despite channeling abilities

It also increases STR

Secondly, his survivability, very easy

[quiet laurel]

Damn so a new meta subsume?

[mighty flare]

its stationary

good for some setups

[velvet pulsar]

Lastly, his ultimate.
Now it's not a hidden weapon dmg class ability, so u can't buff it further by stuff like throwing through mandonel clouds, but it still wrecks red crit like unmodifying gyre abilities

[quiet laurel]

So probs new arbi meta

[mighty flare]

😔

[velvet pulsar]

Arbi...

Arbu?

[mighty flare]

lots of endgame farms got cooked

[velvet pulsar]

Arbucep

[quiet laurel]

I mean hey the ogris bug is in des known issues surely it wont take long for the fix

[quiet laurel]

And cascade is not one of them
DE showing what the real endgame farm is

[velvet pulsar]

They rather buffed cascade addicts

Smite subsume

[quiet laurel]

In fact cascade has been or is getting one of its most annoying bugs fixed 🗣️

[mighty flare]

might see greenie influx in gascate server

[velvet pulsar]

Extraction via operator?

[quiet laurel]

Bugged exo during fissure timer

[velvet pulsar]

BTW with that I remembered

2 days ago I saw a rare occurance during lich hunt which reminded me of those nullifier fields which force u into operator

[carmine dew]

you reckon that would have stopped mehi's infamous 97 or nah

[quiet laurel]

He would have gotten 98 at least

[velvet pulsar]

Apparently the crossfire exterminate node on mars has an exclusive thrall spawn which can prevent ur warframe

[mighty flare]

oh yeah did you test whether xaku aug works on eximus

[velvet pulsar]

I lost interest from the beginning when DE capped the slow at 95%

My reason for test was arcane ice storm bug

I'm not willing to use the augment anymore

I'd rather stick to huras kubrow than priming astral bond void via hound

[mighty flare]

imo i never had faith that the augment was good before cap was included
i just knew xaku would continue his streak of no good augments

[carmine dew]

whta happened to mehi anyway

did he get b& from the casc server........

[velvet pulsar]

IDK who's that but I'm gonna give the universal answer:
Time

[umbral knoll]

could you recommend some good builds for Broken War?

[velvet pulsar]

C.O.W.D.U.N.G.

If it's a light attack spam, standard issue blood rush and weeping wounds I guess

[umbral knoll]

yes, I plan it to use light spam

🙂

[quiet laurel]

Wait you right I cant find him

Bros getting bailed from servers left and right surely he'll work on his attitude cause of it

[velvet pulsar]

Ok @mighty flare
I agree crux procs reliably

Just tested

However...

I still haven't tested when I'll force it to crit

So I'll test later how blight performs when crits are enabled

[charred gale]

wdym i can search him up

[tawny nova]

Kuva Sobek or Hek?

[restive gazelle]

Unlikely

[tame scroll]

well this is just my opinion, but as far as im aware of the kuva sobek has access to Acid Shells so I would say kuva sobek. You may want to get opinions from other players other than just me though as I would say my builds aren't great yet.

[ember pike]

Sobek all the way

[quiet laurel]

😔

[tame scroll]

thoughts on my vesper build?

[velvet pulsar]

Ok blast larkspur was carp

[velvet pulsar]

I'm using crux

[charred gale]

SIX SEVEN

[velvet pulsar]

That was including my own vote

[haughty sparrow]

You have 3 different damage mods and a damage arcane,also we don't know what's on that riven

[buoyant patio]

Based on it's name, multishot, crit chance, and base damage.

(Riven names aren't gibberish, they are based on the stats)

[haughty sparrow]

Ah

If that is true then he should be using a crit damage mod instead of augur pact

[haughty sparrow]

Creeping bullseye in place of augur pact,and remove galvanized scope for a crit damage mod

[haughty sparrow]

Or if you want to really lean into headshots only you could use galvanized scope and replace augur pact with a crit damage mod

[haughty sparrow]

If the base damage on the riven is high enough you could replace semi-pistol cannonade with something different

[lavish orbit]

Iirc sati multishot, even if it's not gibberish, it can slightly change sometimes for the same stats

Tho crita is pretty self-defining

[buoyant patio]

(Funny that the name example here happened to be identical to the Riven in question)

[fervent rapids]

idk how good/bad my thrown together Nokko build is but it's working decently so far

Energize is kinda just there for now, not sure what to replace it with

[deep grotto]

Depends on if you want exploding corrosive enemies or 200% multishot

[fossil wing]

Am prepping to do Profit Taker atm to boost my amps. I heard that Sicarus Prime is better for Profit Taker than Tenet Diplos nowadays. Any truth to that?

[granite ginkgo]

the incarnon, u want to enable it perk

the incarn-off what we call lol, since the perk is passive to weapon directly

[fossil wing]

Gotcha. Incarnon on Week 8 ye?

[granite ginkgo]

not quite sure, since wikia kinda bugged rn - not tally

[midnight horizon]

Week 6, incarnon page is behind a week but the circuit's has the right one

[lethal bison]

gang you guys should try max range excalibur

[haughty sparrow]

I wonder if they will ever add radiation and magnetic to the possible stats

[haughty sparrow]

Also "chance to not gain combo count" 💀

[fervent rapids]

None of the combined elements are there so probably not

[scarlet bramble]

Hey guys, how do you build you Coda Bassocyst?

[buoyant patio]

That's a negative, which is why it doesn't have a prefix/suffix.

[viscid pollen]

Does someone have a Titania/Dex Pixia build to speedrun Lephantis?

[severe bough]

Umbral int instead of augur message arcane energize for molt augmented and overextended for streamline

[severe bough]

Both are really good i tend to use sicarus it has a bit more varity when it comes to modding

[fossil wing]

Okay I'll use the Sicarus

Better than calling in my buddies for a Tenet weapon I'll only ever use for one single thing

[severe bough]

U already got the rest of the loadout?

[fossil wing]

working on it atm

[sweet herald]

would the burston run nice on this? https://overframe.gg/build/258768/harrow-prime/the-holy-ghost-infinite-invisibility-and-red-crit-evade-harrow/

[severe bough]

you can

[severe bough]

Sounds good make sure to check the pt guide if u didnt already

[fossil wing]

Mostly only doing Profit Taker for an Amp upgrade

For the 1-7-7

[severe bough]

Im pretty sure you dont need to do pt itstelf only bountys to get the amp

[grim dome]

since you cant use brief respite or augur on lavos, whats the plan for shield gating on him ?

[analog stirrup]

Shield regen+rolling guard

[grim dome]

im aware that getting hit during the invul period resets the regen, does rolling guards invul take priority over that so the regen isnt disrupted ?

[mellow nest]

I can test it later, but I dont think so

[analog stirrup]

Unless it got messed recently, it shouldnt

[grim dome]

I see

so you just gotta leave it to rng with lavos huh

[analog stirrup]

There is always aegis tho... The shield regen one, paired with regen mods you are prety much imortal while its up

[grim dome]

right, aegis can still proc during the invul window correct ?

[analog stirrup]

Ye

Also rakta dark dagger if you realy struggle

[mellow nest]

You can use Subsumes like Condemn or Pillage, if you want to go for Shield Gating and Shield Tanking at 50% dmg reduction.
Otherwise you can use Eclipse or Nullstar for Damage negation at 87,5% reduction vs shields and 95% health tanking with a Fiber mod @grim dome

[thorny folio]

MR 10 returning baby tenno here, is there anything I should aim for on my sevagoth build?

[grim dome]

I see

[mellow nest]

If you dont want to use subsumes then health tanking is still your best bet here. You can also experiment with Fast Deflection, but its likely better to spec into smth like Arcane Grace or whatevs

[solar reef]

Roar subsume over his 4th, 255% ability strength, both his augments

This will assure his nuke deals 100% health damage at ALL content levels, level cap included

This is assuming you want the nuke build

Sevagoth nuke is lowkey one of the best nukes in the game due to its range, reliability, and ease of use

[thorny folio]

uh

subsume?

[deep grotto]

You can buy the Helminth Segment from Son at Rank 3 Entrati

With that, you can subsume base warframes into the Helminth to use certain abilities on other frames

[solar reef]

The helminth, the evil chair in the back of your orbiter.
If you feed it a warframe, you can put one of its abilities on other warframes

In Rhino’s case, his subsumable ability is Roar

[deep grotto]

Could you theoretically subsume roar and warcry onto a warframe for even more damage

Iirc warcry is damage + speed and roar is damage + armour
Although I’m curious of why people prefer to use Roar

[solar reef]

warcry doesnt increase damage

[deep grotto]

Wait huh

[solar reef]

Also, you cant have two damage increasing abilities on the same frame.
So if warcry was a damage ability, which it is not, you couldnt throw it on Rhino, and Roar on Valkyr.

[solar reef]

its attack speed and armor.

[deep grotto]

Huh…
Didn’t know that actually

[solar reef]

it also slows down enemies.

not sure if this applies to the subsume

and roar doesn’t give you armor

i dont know where you got this information from

[deep grotto]

I could have gotten mixed up idk

[solar reef]

roar is purely a damage increase

[novel bear]

I thought they moved that to paralysis?

[solar reef]

i wouldnt know i dont play valkyr

thats just what wiki said

[novel bear]

Fandom or new wiki?

[deep grotto]

Probably Fandom

Because I’m looking at the new wiki now and it doesn’t say that

On another note, anyone have a Tak and Lug build? All the builds online are like, several years old

[novel bear]

How?

It’s only been out for half a year

Best build would probably be heavy attack influence

Low status though

[deep grotto]

Maybe I’m misremembering but idk they felt wack
Regardless
It’s worth mentioning I do not have melee influence and probably won’t for a while

[deep grotto]

It’s got low everything tbh
Which sucks because it looks neat and the gimmick is cool

[novel bear]

Then just standard heavy attack, gal steel, gal reflex, ppp, amalgam organ shatter, melee elementalist, killing blow, smite, and an elemental damage mod

[deep grotto]

Alright
I’ll be taking arcanes out of the equation for now but I at least have most of these

Now i have to focus on rebuilding the damn thing because i sold it for weapon space

[zealous rapids]

isn't it just an easy to get weapon for early game players, to get more mr

like the new rifle from teacher quest

[mighty flare]

It’s heavy spam weapon cuz forced blast on heavy

[echo yoke]

Guys, what I equip it

[deep grotto]

You exclusively get the parts from ghouls and it has an MR 9 requirement lmao

[deep grotto]

Why are your sentinels upside down

[deep grotto]

Uhh
Diriga :3
max rank that mf

[haughty sparrow]

Get yourself a nautilus prime,i heard the sentinel weapon they have is strong

[echo yoke]

Th

[echo yoke]

Th

[grave bane]

I'm dealing like no damage with my kuva zarr build and turns out that's probably because I'm using corruption but I also know poison isn't the greatest for 1999 missions so I'm wondering if it'd be worth it to go for a different status on the zarr itself or just change around the build because I'd rather not spend a ton of time for like a minor damage increase

[novel bear]

Toxic progenitor is usually combined with cold or electric for viral or corrosive

[gray quarry]

What progenitor element is the zarr? I see double toxin mods

[mortal roost]

rate my arbucep build (I have almost none of the good archgun mods lol), it can kill manic bombards (18 mil EHP) at level 205 steel path if shot at with the entire mag

[mighty flare]

theres no point in using cc mods when using enervate

better off with hollowed bullets

[mortal roost]

Idk I just threw on mods lol

I dont have hallowed bullets

Like I said I have none of the good mods

[mighty flare]

and dual rounds become multiplicative dmg, so you should get that one too

[mortal roost]

alright

[severe bough]

Last slots are probably for making viral/coro and mag (since we still didnt got any elementalist mods for archguns)

[grave bane]

Toxin

[zealous rapids]

does arbucep even hit headshots?

[limber radish]

Why is it upside down

[mortal roost]

Yes it does considering I can activate crux with it

[crude bolt]

How does Aerial ace work??
I was doing a Innodem+Wisp build and I was thinking of adding Aerial ace on my Argonak.... Does it work with the melee kills of the Innodem or only the Rifle kills count?

[severe bough]

It def does

[outer mauve]

What melee and primary and secondary are the best for viral builds? And companion? I wanna build a pure viral frame and thinking of using Nokko for it

[thorn kiln]

which yt vid got the best mesa build

[hard dove]

Stuff like Bubo have innate viral and is also a good weapon and kinda fits Nokko vibes being all flesh/infested gun
There's also primer like epitaph, kompressa p, etc
Companion can go diriga or vulpa, me personally advice vulpa to still fit with the whole flesh/infested/plant theme stuff going on

[zealous rapids]

you can get plague parts from naberus for innate viral melee zaw

[hard dove]

There's also coda pathocyst that have innate viral

Wixh is another flesh/plant/infested weapon

[zealous rapids]

but imo, dagath has more viral than nokko

[outer mauve]

I do like the coda pathocyst myself I'll probably change its progenitor to electric for influence to proc

And I like Nokko which is why I pick him for viral lol

[zealous rapids]

you should try to test your builds in cambion drift

[outer mauve]

Why o.o

[zealous rapids]

if it work there, you can kill everything with that

[outer mauve]

Oh

[hard dove]

Enemies there resist viral iirc
Shouldn't matter you aren't doing mainly viral dmg after all

[zealous rapids]

||because most if not all mobs in cambion drift are resistant/immune to viral||

[near vortex]

you should test your builds by going to level cap on Armatus

[outer mauve]

I may do that. My secondary is currently sporelancer/haymaker/killstream cause it looks like a mushroom

[near vortex]

not splat 💔

[outer mauve]

Why splat?

[hard dove]

Best stat with that combo

Spore, hay, splat

[haughty sparrow]

Ok so is Mausolon the best archgun out there?

It has:
AOE✅
Good fire rate✅
Great crit chance✅

Someone please tell me if there is a better one

[hard dove]

2nd best if PT

[haughty sparrow]

What does PT stand for again ._.

[thorn kiln]

can anyone give me a good mesa build please

[hard dove]

Profit Taker

[haughty sparrow]

Ah

[hard dove]

https://overframe.gg/build/269030/

[golden sentinel]

I was looking for a braton prime build and i saw one that ask you to evolve it but idk how to evolve the weapon

[mighty flare]

i be running this now
https://overframe.gg/build/911406/tak-lug/tak-lug-5x-heavy-spam-blastfluence/

[velvet pulsar]

ZucksenBurger

[mighty flare]

thats me

[velvet pulsar]

[mighty flare]

https://tenor.com/view/crazyhamburger-gif-18267569

crazzzzzzzzzzzzy hamborgeus

[velvet pulsar]

U have an alt named Elen Musket?

[mighty flare]

nawr

not yet

maybe if i ever get caught in ban wave

[deep grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-hamburger-jojo-gif-236296954588232941

This one’s better

[velvet pulsar]

Is morgha alt fire only limited by travel time and not number of bounces?

[mighty flare]

wiki only mentions distance limit and not bounce

[velvet pulsar]

It's worth a try on ivara then

I'll build it

[mighty flare]

a bit of tease to mention its affected by projectile speed but we dont have any pfs archgun mods

[velvet pulsar]

Zephyr is the universal source

[mighty flare]

is it her passive or ability

nvm

[velvet pulsar]

Augment
3rd ability

It can turn torid incarnoff to a sniper

[mighty flare]

zephyr archgun platform sounds fun

[velvet pulsar]

It's more than fun alright

[mighty flare]

ive just been using lavos

[little sphinx]

is brightbonnet better than dispensary in every way?

[velvet pulsar]

1. Knockbacks aren't a serious threat to u in air
2. No need PSF or overguard for shooting AoE ones via air
3. Tornadoes instant charge alt fires
4. Projectile speed

[velvet pulsar]

Not even close
Dispensary still wayyy better

[mighty flare]

oh zephyr bypasses the stagger from some of he archguns?

[velvet pulsar]

You've got orb pickup effects like energy conversion
Universal ammo drops
Repair Dispensary augment which also doubles into an infinite revive strat with sacrifice mod
And I'm sure dispensary grants more energy

[velvet pulsar]

IDK about that, probably when 3 is active, yes

I'm saying ur own explosions not exploding at ur face is practically preventing self stagger

[novel bear]

Her 3 doesn’t prevent self stagger
It doesn’t even prevent stagger from enemy attacks

[velvet pulsar]

And what about hovering via 1?

[novel bear]

That does I’m pretty sure

[velvet pulsar]

There u go zephyr advantage

Also for a bonus, I replaced my 2nd ability with pull, along with greedy pull.

So now I never have to touch the ground.

[wanton widget]

Roar vs Eclipse vs Marked for Death... Frame - Wisp Prime... which one should I go with?

[mighty flare]

Roar

[crimson raft]

yo i wanna daily titania and nova can some1 help me with a build for either 1?

[narrow lichen]

someone has a good akjagara prime build?

[steady stirrup]

Do any weapons synergise with koumei well? If so, which ones

[wooden silo]

I need a beginner xaku prime bulid?

[flint arrow]

Any modifications i should consider on my excal umbra?

[long phoenix]

Ok so I watched a video on how Breach Surge actually works and I'm starting to see why ppl run it on Limbo
I recently found I really like Daikyu Prime as a single target Crit damage weapon (not even remotely fully built and I was doing 3-4M red crit DMG from Primary Acuity) and I feel like I could do something with that on Limbo w/ Breach Surge
Aaaaaand I have yet another reason to grind for Hammer Shot 😭

[novel bear]

Replace spoiled strike with berserker fury
Put weeping wounds and blood rush over gladiator might and organ shatter
Is there a reason you’re running viral corrosive heat?

[flint arrow]

Not sure really.

[haughty sparrow]

I decided to make a soma prime incarnon build

Primary acuity
Vital sense
Primed Shred
Rifle elementalist
Rime rounds
Malignant force
Hunter munitions
Serration
Primary deadhead

[novel bear]

I would change your emissive to be cold or toxin then for pure viral instead of viral heat

[haughty sparrow]

Is there anything i should change about this?

[lapis star]

Is inaros negation armor any good?

[bitter drum]

does more status chance mean more stack of the element

[kind bison]

Someone told me to put red shards into nokko for ability strength instead of green shards for increased poison damage, is it better or what?

[mighty flare]

It’s not

[kind bison]

Ill probably do 2 red, 2 green and a casting speed then

[mighty flare]

2 red of what

[kind bison]

One tau ability strength, one duration

2 tau for poison damage

Just have to save up yellow shards for fusion

[mighty flare]

No point in using red strength

I see vision for duration though

Baseline is that Nokko does absurd damage before you slot shards, invest in more qol

[kind bison]

Well Im gonna run Molt augment and efficiency anyways, and because I play nokko with at least 2 synapses firing in my brain Ill hit million numbers either way

I was just wondering wether power strength makes the numbers bigger than increasing the poison damage of it

[mighty flare]

If you want more dmg then it’s toxin dmg or corrosive ability dmg

Toxin better the longer it takes to kill

[autumn bane]

hmmm

[haughty sparrow]

I have not been able to kill with lavos's abilities in steel path,is that normal? And if not how do i fix it

[midnight horizon]

Isn't he better off as a weapon platform

[novel bear]

Yes
But he can work as a nuke

[haughty sparrow]

I know but i got that one mission objective where you have to kill enemies with abilities and i wasn't able to kill anything with the abilities themselves

[novel bear]

You’ll probably want a primer with encumber, cedo or epitaph

[midnight horizon]

Oh. Well we got oberon for free couple days ago if you want the easy way out

[mighty flare]

What’s ur setup

[novel bear]

Exalted frames are good for that one

[haughty sparrow]

Transient fortitude,blind rage,molt augmented,primed continuity and archon vitality

It was against techrot and i was spamming toxin

[mighty flare]

Oh

You’be in need of build overhaul ngl

[haughty sparrow]

Is strength not good for him ._.

[mighty flare]

I just run precision intensify and it’s enough

Where’s your range

[haughty sparrow]

I have stretch equipped

Should i use more range?

[mighty flare]

No, are you doing gas infusion?

[haughty sparrow]

I use different elements based off the enemies I'm fighting

[haughty sparrow]

Is gas the best for him?

[mighty flare]

Id say yes if you’re tryna do caster build

[haughty sparrow]

Ah

[mighty flare]

Do you have magus anomaly or nautilus for grouping ?

[haughty sparrow]

I have nautilus prime and cordon

[mighty flare]

Goob

You using subsume? Sickening pulse?

[haughty sparrow]

I don't have it subsumed on him,but i can do it

[mighty flare]

It’s one of best booster to Gas Catalyze

[haughty sparrow]

I'll do it

Which ability should i remove for it?

[flint arrow]

@novel bear your messages disappeared

[haughty sparrow]

Nvm i know exactly which one

3rd?

[mighty flare]

2

[haughty sparrow]

Oh

[mighty flare]

You cover 2 elements with primers like cedo or epitaph

[novel bear]

Put weeping wounds and blood rush over gladiator might and organ shatter```
This one?

[mighty flare]

Also momentous bond

[novel bear]

3rd is too useful
Especially with new augment

[haughty sparrow]

Sickening costs energy to use, what's it's cooldown timer gonna be?

[novel bear]

10

[haughty sparrow]

Okie dokie i have it subsumed

How useful is status duration on lavos?

[flint arrow]

Yea i cant see it

[midnight horizon]

Very useful if you're doing melee afflictions with harmony

https://youtu.be/jVo8Z94WQmk?si=urY6zhHAnUdhtRRo
For reference

[novel bear]

Doesn’t work on demos or eximus or any other strong single target though

[haughty sparrow]

The gas lavos worked

[midnight horizon]

The video specifically shows using it on demos

[novel bear]

The video is a year old

[midnight horizon]

So what changed

[novel bear]

They nerfed afflictions in koumei

[midnight horizon]

That's koumei. This is lavos

Can you prove anything changed?

[novel bear]

Komei the update

Not the frame

[mighty flare]

Goob, especially for gas

[mighty flare]

Koumei Update*
Afflictions doesn’t work like that anymore

[near vortex]

koumei looks really fun
I saw a health tanking build on Overframe that's viable at level cap that I really want to try now

[haughty sparrow]

I've asked this before but I didn't provide an image,is this good?

[near vortex]

take off Serration for Critical Delay if you have it, Point Strike if you don't

[haughty sparrow]

Are you sure I'll have enough DPS to activate primary deadhead?

And yes i do have critical delay

(i forgot i had incarnon damage from status effects on enemies nvm about this^)

[near vortex]

Could always take it in mission and decide for yourself
f around and find out

[sterile axle]

Where can I find a sevagoth build ?

[haughty sparrow]

I tried it and it works

[haughty sparrow]

There is something funny about using primary acuity (a weapon that limits multishot) on a incarnon that gives you more base multishot

[near vortex]

Acuity and Cannonade mods lock the stats for mods

[haughty sparrow]

Alright here is my new build for soma currently

Primed Shred
Primary Acuity
Vital Sense
Bladed Rounds
Rime Rounds
Malignant Force
Hunter Munitions (unsure if i should use heat or slash)
Rifle Elementalist
And finally Primary Deadhead

[mighty flare]

are you building for incarnon or incarnoff

[haughty sparrow]

Incarnon i guess?

For the incarnon perks I'm using more accuracy and damage per status on enemy

[haughty sparrow]

Keep in mind this is my current build and that image is outdated

[mighty flare]

fresh havoc gives more dmg than fatal afflictions

there arent that many forms of base dmg increases

[haughty sparrow]

Yeah but the incarnon form has a lot of base damage,i feel like that would be a incarnoff upgrade

I'll try to make it work anyways

[mighty flare]

fresh havoc is the best upgrade you can pick from there

[haughty sparrow]

I read the wiki, it's applied per pellet

Pretty good

[bold plume]

Hows my opticor?

[pure reef]

Has anyone tried new Smite on Dagath?

[wicked scaffold]

how good is ophanim eyes, its a total armor strip and i kinda wanted to put it on nokko because it still works during reroot and i was wondering if itd be a valid thing to helminth onto

[pure reef]

Your 4 is applying toxin and corrosive procs so idk how valuable a full strip really is. Also if you're not replacing Reroot then what are you dumping?

[charred gale]

Terrify or pillage are better options for armor strip

[wicked scaffold]

i thought itd be fun but its like a bit boring, replaced 1 but like
its not that great

idk what to overlay over nokko then that isnt like super boring, roars effective ive tried but but its SO LETHALLY BORING

[pure reef]

Thinking it's gonna interact well with DOOM & Viral & Phantom Wrath & Spectral Spirit

[charred gale]

Well most helminth options are just going to be enhancing the already existing kit

[wicked scaffold]

well yeah sure but surely theres something thats a little more entertaining in how the synergy functions

things like breach surge where its not just a flat buff but it enables the kit

[charred gale]

Well i guess roar synergizes with his kit via toxin procs getting double the benefit from roar lol

[wicked scaffold]

im not dissing roar's efficacy i know its good but im not really looking for #1 best im looking for fun synergies

[latent adder]

u can do breach surge

it double dips crepuscular

[wicked scaffold]

ooo didnt know that synergy, fun

[latent adder]

subsume over 1 anyway

his 3 counts as invisibility for crepuscular

[wicked scaffold]

ive been thinking about subsuming 1 cause the viral procs really arent amazing so thats probably gonna be the play lol

[latent adder]

yeah they make 1 viral per 3s and per sporespring bounce its much slower than what even companions can apply

[charred gale]

Fair enough i missed the part where u said fun synergies

[fresh pumice]

Hello any good build recommendations for ignis wraith pls? Also I know it has low riven dispo but any stats I should roll for in a riven?

[radiant pecan]

Should i swap out anything?

[lime willow]

lets talk about Caliban!

What summons should I use? the guides I've read say to use the Summulysts

do you concur? are Choralysts the best summons for Caliban?

[radiant pecan]

Conculusts are best for armor stripping . They radiant smaller beams when you use your 4th cast

Choralysts and summulystst are good defense

[quiet laurel]

ortholyst

[mighty flare]

Ortholyst

[lime willow]

alrighty! orthodontist it is

[lethal bison]

gang do excalibur's exalted blade and his equipped sword type melees have his passive counted in in the stats section

[frozen arch]

what's a good shard set up for weapon platform saryn?

[lime shard]

Anyone know if the nataruk benefits from deadhead's 30% headshot multi?

[karmic belfry]

How would you increase the status chance of a particular element when you have multiple?

[chrome badge]

Damage weighting, status chance is how likely you are to apply a status effect on a enemy what status that is, is determined by the weight of the statuses.

say you got a weapon that does equal amounts of impact, slash, puncture, and 100% sc
equal chance to inflict any of those
now say i put a different element with a value higher than the ips on the weapon
i have a greater chance for the procced element to be that new element

[lime shard]

Just tested but to anyone in the future curious if Nataruk is affected by reload stats: yes it is. You draw your next arrow faster with higher reload speed (misleading because ingame it says Nataruk has 0.00s reload...)

[karmic belfry]

How do you avoid an element comboing then?

Because I'm trying to get Electricity for Melee Influence.

[chrome badge]

well if my weapon has an innate element it likely requires 3 element mods, 1 for elec, 1 for the innate element, and 1 for whatever element that isn't used

take twin basolk that has innate heat, i'd need to make gas elec so that the innate heat combines with the gas instead of the elec

you can have something like the shock trooper aug which i think doesn't combine with equipped mods and allows you to proc elec on top of whatever is modded

[karmic belfry]

I'm using the Coda Pathocyst and already have Volcanic Edge slotted for Status Chance.

[chrome badge]

coda patho with what innate?

[karmic belfry]

Overridden to Electricity

Oh, I suppose I could go farm more Pathocysts...

Only at 35.2% Bonus

[chrome badge]

i'd go for elec element mod

[karmic belfry]

Problem is, Adversaries are an endeavor and Coda weapons are on a rotation.

[chrome badge]

i'd just keep only the elec element mod and use galv uhhh elementalist

meh i don't use melee influence on patho so idk if getting a higher bonus matters

[novel bear]

What element are you trying to put on pathocyst?

[chrome badge]

elec, well he is

[novel bear]

Pure elec?

[abstract cargo]

I have no idea how to build Garuda so is this good?

[chrome badge]

he has elec bonus on his patho alr for influence

[novel bear]

So what is he modding for?

[chrome badge]

status chance? without conflicts with the elec weight

[novel bear]

Sounds like he’s modding for other elements besides elec

[chrome badge]

he just wants higher status chance, which is why he got volca

[karmic belfry]

I have other elements besides Elec because of Volcanic Edge, one of my Status Chance mods

[novel bear]

Could you post the full build?

Volcanic edge is hurting your electric weighting

[chrome badge]

i don't think you're pathocysting properly

[karmic belfry]

If I remove North Wind, Elec combos.

[chrome badge]

this hurts my eyes, Sanity can you take it from here

[novel bear]

Are you using the heavy attack detonation or are you letting it bounce between enemies?

[karmic belfry]

Letting it bounce

[novel bear]

Take off dispatch override then
Put on blood rush and weeping wounds if you have them, since you’ll be building combo

Use a raw damage mod, like pressure point

[karmic belfry]

I don't have BR or WW

[novel bear]

Try to get them from necralisk bounties
Take off north wind and volcanic edge, you want pure elec

[karmic belfry]

Doesn't influence spread all the status effects of your melee weapon?

[novel bear]

Yes

But it’s better to just do more electric

[midnight horizon]

All except ips and hidden effects like knockdown

I will never understand why people wanna mod multiple elements on your melee to be spread by influence

You lose mod slots, your enemies die in less than 2 seconds on any setup anyway, you actually have less chance at triggering influence buff cuz diluted elec

[near vortex]

rev Torid one tricks when I hit them in the head with a brick

[novel bear]

Electric is generally the best dot too

[karmic belfry]

Huh... I guess I'm fine with doing just Viral and Elec-

Wait, where in the void is the cold coming from? Or does the Pathocyst inately(?) do viral?

[novel bear]

Innate viral, yeah

[midnight horizon]

Patho force procs viral

[novel bear]

And forced viral on heavy explosions

[near vortex]

Doesn't blast elec and gas elec exist with influence

[midnight horizon]

Exist but why

I'd rather go all in on elec

[novel bear]

On weapons with innate heat, cold, or tox

[midnight horizon]

Otherwise, too many mod slots wasted

[near vortex]

But you could have fart clouds!

[near vortex]

I need to get the Dual Visces or whatever
Gas Influence the weapon

[novel bear]

Still need to spend the extra mod slots, but if you don’t you can’t get electric for influence

[karmic belfry]

Does Influence spread Impact, Puncture and Slash too?

[novel bear]

No

[karmic belfry]

Well, until I get those other mods, I'm slotting the only electric mod I have.

[midnight horizon]

At that point I'd use some other weapon / build

[midnight horizon]

Which is probably the only one you need to slot in

[karmic belfry]

I now have a 64.5% to proc electricity.

[novel bear]

Dual toxocyst and syam are both popular influence weapons that need to build for gas or blast

[midnight horizon]

Im aware

[karmic belfry]

You know, I think an interesting mod set would be ones that increase one element but lower all other elements.

[midnight horizon]

Wait you meant dual.. uuh

[chrome badge]

toxo can't equip influence

[midnight horizon]

The other dual

[near vortex]

ichor

[chrome badge]

also ichor is mid with influence, embrace melee vortex

[novel bear]

That’s the one

[mighty flare]

drop streamline, intensify, transient fortitude
garuda only needs 134 strength (you land at 139) from overextended + blind rage OR overextended + transient fortitude + umbral intensify
slot primed continuity, blending talons

[midnight horizon]

Ichor was heavenly with influence before

Til they nerfed the clouds not proccing influence

[chrome badge]

but they do proc melee vortex

[midnight horizon]

-# I don't like ichor, I don't use it

[chrome badge]

to*id enjoyer ^

[midnight horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-prowler-goku-goku-mad-goku-dbs-dbs-gif-11120329515669448575

[abstract cargo]

thanks

[midnight horizon]

Don't disgrace my uuh name with that

[mighty flare]

max/high range is very important btw

[velvet pulsar]

U want something similar to return?

[chrome badge]

u want something mid to return

[midnight horizon]

Not really. They haven't brought back toxic lash influence or blast saryn yet

So I doubt they care enough to bring anything back

[mighty flare]

sad theres no doughty gunblade yet

[chrome badge]

vastilok

or was it sarpa

[velvet pulsar]

Not exactly that
But if gas status gets fixed, gas acid shells will be similar to influence ichor, just not that fast spreader

[mighty flare]

neither

[chrome badge]

redeemer?

[mighty flare]

nope

redeemer has blast niche

[chrome badge]

damn where the puncture gunblade de >:o

[velvet pulsar]

Doughty is just CD

[mighty flare]

-100% slash rivens

[velvet pulsar]

Skip the middleman

Get CD directly

[novel bear]

My purple shards are running low

[mighty flare]

i like when de makes funky things but gets sad when they make them the worse to build for

doughty, acuity, duplicates

[karmic belfry]

Saying Rivens reminds me that I have too many shards.

[chrome badge]

nuh imma stick with my 30x cd glaive

i forgot that one wraith glaive

[novel bear]

Who doesn’t?

[velvet pulsar]

Halikar Wrath!

[karmic belfry]

I don't like the riven system because of the challenges+rng

[midnight horizon]

OH YEAH WHERE THE 12X EXPLOIT DE???

[karmic belfry]

If I wanted to roll Gacha, I'd go play Genshin.

[midnight horizon]

Forever a lost history

[chrome badge]

Hali wraith is my favorite doughty weapon

[velvet pulsar]

Teshin Impact, puncture, and slash

[karmic belfry]

???

[midnight horizon]

Warframe

[chrome badge]

Warmframe

[velvet pulsar]

U haven't heard? Warframe is all games.

[novel bear]

No farming yet

Duviri doesn’t count

[velvet pulsar]

U wanna take the Thanos path?

[chrome badge]

was that a threat?

[velvet pulsar]

I mean we do have some builds like Gara who can distribute enemies in 2 directions and then devastate one side to remove half of the population.

So that checks out.
Now what's left is farming.

[chrome badge]

We have Sevagoth

He Sows and Reaps

[velvet pulsar]

We also got mushroom collection this update

[novel bear]

Pinball wizard

[velvet pulsar]

So yeah eat it

[velvet pulsar]

Grendel with Gyre subsume

[novel bear]

That’s not really farming

It’s gathering

[karmic belfry]

"Perform a 360 no scope fakie ladder stall headshot on a dargyn going faster than light on a blood moon with all 5 pieces of Exodia in your hand for a Riven for a weapon that not only do you not have, belongs to a weapon class you don't like."

[chrome badge]

Skill issue

[novel bear]

Just use ivara

[chrome badge]

i used to charge 5 plat to do riv challenges for ppl

[novel bear]

Answer to everything

[velvet pulsar]

U can void sling dargyn pilots to air and shoot them

The riven doesn't demand dargyns

U can destroy parked dargyns and void sling the unfortunate soul

I wonder if well of life or caliban's 2 counts as floating pilot

Also Hildryn's 4

[novel bear]

Depends on if it specifies lifted

[grave cloak]

I mean you can also skip the initial gacha stage and just buy unveiled riven mods for weapons you like from wfm

[lime shard]

Anyone? I don't have training room unlocked oof

[chrome badge]

why wouldn't it

[mighty flare]

yes it does

you use deadhead until you get longbow sharpshot

[lime shard]

When people say nataruk doesnt have a headshot multi I wasn't sure if it meant it literally doesn't get any benefit from headshot bonuses in any form lol

[lime shard]

Aight cool thanks

[mighty flare]

it has 1x headshot multi, so no benefit unless you source bonuses like deadhead or shaprshot

[lime shard]

Tyty, gonna grind for longbow

[abstract cargo]

does Steel Path give more exp for leveling?

also where does the exp from hollvania challenges go?

[lethal bison]

gang i think i could actually live without primed flow

[velvet pulsar]

U can

[lethal bison]

on umbra

225 energy pool lol

[velvet pulsar]

U can

Archon Flow

[lethal bison]

without flow mods though

[velvet pulsar]

That's when Arcane Battery + Health Conversion + mecha pulse synergy arrives

(U don't need both of the later options together)

[lethal bison]

800+ armour with triple umbral setup, i don't think that would give much energy

[mighty flare]

just dont run blind rage and use seismic bond with equilibrium + synth deconstruct pet

very doable

[lethal bison]

ik, blind rage sometimes hits hard in your energy eco

1 radial javelin and 115 energy went poof

[velvet pulsar]

This inspires me to do a meme now.

[lethal bison]

perhaps transient fortitude?

[velvet pulsar]

1 energy orb = 500 energy

Gotta try it

[lethal bison]

with triple umbral only you are stuck at 177 str

so you would want another strength mod

[velvet pulsar]

Oh hey look 177

[lethal bison]

too bad mine is 147

[velvet pulsar]

Every update DE keeps bringing new way to increase str

[lethal bison]

oh i have this idea

add 1 tau blue +75 energy shard

you get 300 energy pool

[long phoenix]

Trying this out for Breach + Rift Surge Limbo, using my Hound to be able to proc Archon Stretch, still looking into which weapons to pair with this build, I like Daikyu Prime but I only get 1 breach per kill so I'm thinking maybe something else?

[near vortex]

Glaive

Falcor, specifically

Glaives double dip the Rift Torrent boost

[long phoenix]

when it comes to Glaive, I have Fully built G Prime (w/ Riven), Xoris, Falcor, and Cerata

[velvet pulsar]

Xoris or Falcor

Influence bypasses rift

[long phoenix]

this what I'm running on my Xoris rn

[near vortex]

Falcor then

[near vortex]

Should do fine, although sac pressure on Limbo

[velvet pulsar]

Also u should give smite limbo a try for another config

[near vortex]

You have rift torrent

[velvet pulsar]

Base damage
It'll then get multiplied by rift torrent

[near vortex]

Rift Torrent is base damahe

[velvet pulsar]

Nope

It's unnerfed eclipse

[long phoenix]

since I'm using my hound + Epitaph Prime as my primers, would Condition Overload be a good option?

[velvet pulsar]

It's not additive to mods

[long phoenix]

this my falcor setup btw

[velvet pulsar]

Does it also say that it's similar to eclipse?

Coz then that's a lie

[near vortex]

It's similar to Vex Armor and Amp

[karmic belfry]

Does reload speed effect the Tenet Plinx?

[velvet pulsar]

Well now I know why null star mirage is more successful than null star limbo

[near vortex]

I swear
Every time I talk about Limbo in this server I have to knowledge people

Anyway
Yeah, use a glaive

Double dips Rift Torrent turning into a triple dip on Breach Surge

[velvet pulsar]

I've played him
Just not polished memory anymore

I now use more for well of life, not using rift torrent anymore

[near vortex]

well of Life Zymos gaming

[long phoenix]

Falcor isn't a Heavy Attack focused glaive right? you don't do the double boom unlike Xoris?

[near vortex]

Yeah Falcor is a bounce glaive I believe

[velvet pulsar]

That one mod still explodes on bounce

[mighty flare]

Falcor is heavy too

[long phoenix]

yeah but Falcor does more damage if you let it bounce, Xoris does more with the double splode iirc

[velvet pulsar]

Yes

[long phoenix]

at least that's how I remember the videos saying

[velvet pulsar]

Same

Though falcor also is unique for bounce

[mighty flare]

What videos?

[velvet pulsar]

For some reason, mods that disable punch through don't disable Falcor's punch through

[long phoenix]

there's an MHBlacky vid about Falcor specifically I think

[velvet pulsar]

I'm sure there's atleast 1 misinformation in that vid then

[mighty flare]

I would not trust whatever mhblacky says

[velvet pulsar]

The research part on that channel is not as thorough as others

[near vortex]

point still stands
Glaive very good
Throw glaive at enemy marked with Breach Surge
Kill

[long phoenix]

ok what's the current best Falcor setup rn?

[velvet pulsar]

Also try smite limbo

1/1

[fallow ice]

shoul i keep rolling this riven for soma?
+90,9% electro dmg
+54%mag capacity
+181,1% dmg
-93,2% puncture dmg

[long phoenix]

is WarframeFlo's info trustworthy for builds then?

[mighty flare]

I saw his gunblade video and it was ass

[velvet pulsar]

Casual

[long phoenix]

ok who's got the best Falcor build then?

[velvet pulsar]

Now I'm sad Aznvasion retired

[grave cloak]

Go to overframe.gg and look for builds by ninjase

Not sure of any other unironic options

Maybe mcgamercz if you're spicy but even then

[velvet pulsar]

There's a user called Depravety but it's a hit or miss

[grave cloak]

Or the kengineer

[cobalt python]

Wait he did?? Oh man.

[velvet pulsar]

Kyaii?

Kessie?

[south harness]

any way to improve this diriga build? its a primer with its laser built to dish out IPS

[velvet pulsar]

Wow we have so many wf youtubers with K starting name

[cobalt python]

Tenacious Bond

[grave cloak]

Too many

[velvet pulsar]

And no I won't mention his infamous name

[grave cloak]

Primed fure sooted

[velvet pulsar]

Better to forget and fade him

[cobalt python]

I shudder at the mere slight mention

[south harness]

sweet

ty

[velvet pulsar]

I still haven't recovered from Tempest Barrage Protea

[cobalt python]

Anytime, hope you enjoy the fit

Most larger content creators have been horrible. We only have a few good ones left. He’s gotta be king of the cringe though. Besides Brozime

[long phoenix]

ok so if my main damage is gonna be Falcor on my Limbo build, what should I run for Primary?

running Epitaph Prime as Secondary already and I have a hound so I think I've got my primers covered

[cobalt python]

You could use any Utility weapon. Like Afentis.

In that case, it won’t provide much. Just make it a rifle and throw on Amalgam Serration for more Sprint speed

[long phoenix]

thinking about it, maybe I should have something specifically for Acolytes?

[cobalt python]

Could do Felarx.

[long phoenix]

instead of Epitaph Prime, I could run Cedo Prime and then use my Lex Prime Incarnon w/ Riven

[cobalt python]

Though, Falcor should shred them no matter what.

Given the attenuation changes

What I do, is use Cedo as a Primer. Secondary is Grimoire for my Invocation of Choice. Then of course the melee

[long phoenix]

I just really like my Lex Prime lol

[cobalt python]

It’s a very fun weapon. Especially dual wielded like you’re wanting to do.

[long phoenix]

the riven specifically

[cobalt python]

Not bad, could use some rerolls of course. But sweet sweet crit damage

I should see if I have my old riven still.

[long phoenix]

thankfully Steady Hands + Deadhead cancels out the additional recoil, those recoil changes are kinda tough

[velvet pulsar]

Tenet Glaxion?
Jade's Bow?

[velvet pulsar]

They're both utility as well

Latron incarnon for armor strip?

[long phoenix]

I have Evensong (not really built but leveled at least) and Latron Incarnon

[cobalt python]

Oh yeah, Evensong would be a great choice actually for a little Multishot

[velvet pulsar]

Afentis is getting a prime soon enough so don't bother building it rn

[cobalt python]

I mean, not like the Prime’s gonna change it up much unfortunately.

[velvet pulsar]

Farm

Kahl missions

And probably even a buff to the gimmick is possible

[long phoenix]

gonna wait for the next Plat coupon in case I get too impatient trying to farm for Hammer Shot

[cobalt python]

Venato got a big boost with its Prime. I’d like Afentis to get something similar.

[velvet pulsar]

Ironically that's also a reason why it'd be played less with caliban and literally anyone else

[long phoenix]

Afentis is the speargun that's popular with Mesa mains, right?

[cobalt python]

Yes indeed. Tau damage on anyone outside of Caliban is a lot

[velvet pulsar]

Not just mesa but yes

[cobalt python]

Yes it is. Fire Rate, Reload speed and Ammo Max

[velvet pulsar]

Caliban himself should use xata vulcan blitz

[cobalt python]

All bumped up quite nicely and for a generous duration

[velvet pulsar]

BTW archguns benefit that too

More ammo max

[mortal roost]

Does anybody got a lenz build? I wanna try playing with the thing again

[cobalt python]

Oh they do? I never tried it. I usually use it on my Dante for Noctua.

[velvet pulsar]

Tenet Bramma

[mortal roost]

But I dont want to use the bramma, I want to use the lenz

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah that's what I mean
Bramma's Tenet Brother

[mortal roost]

I dont get it but okay

[velvet pulsar]

Even though it doesn't have a tenet like exergis

[velvet pulsar]

I assume the build will contain internal bleeding mod but IDK if that's outdated or not

[long phoenix]

which is a better arcane on Cedo Prime, Blight or Frostbite?

[mortal roost]

Why does the lenz only have 6 ammo

[velvet pulsar]

Ancient AoE nerf

Just crux it 👍🏼

[velvet pulsar]

Just crux it 👍🏼

Frostbite

[mortal roost]

What the hell, the lenz wasnt even that strong, bramma was the issue

[velvet pulsar]

Same reaction but for last year's Purgator-1

I can't believe they're still stuck to this agenda

Specially when Pistoleer exists

[mortal roost]

The purgator? the scaldra weapon?

[velvet pulsar]

Yes, same story

It's not even real AoE

It relies on gas status for AoE part, yet the ammo nerf

[mortal roost]

Okay I give up on the lenz, I wanted to play with it like old times, but 6 ammo is horrendus

[velvet pulsar]

That DEscalated quickly...

[charred gale]

one of the only watchable warframe ytbers

[mortal roost]

I REALLY dont understand the nerf for the lenz specifically, the issue was players killing everything instantly when entering a room, the lenz AOE takes a while anyways

I'm actually getting salty

[velvet pulsar]

Meanwhile incarnons get the SP pass

[mortal roost]

True, incarnons I guess get the pass because they are "endgame weapons"

[velvet pulsar]

Honestly there should be an SP exilus mod for reverting ammo nerf

[mortal roost]

I dont really care about other weapons, but nerfing the lenz really offends me since it wasnt op in the first place

[velvet pulsar]

Any unspammable AoE really

[mortal roost]

Its not really spammable but ok

actually it is spammable but its so slow it doesnt matter

[long phoenix]

thinking about it, I may wanna stick with Epitaph Prime and/or Grimoire as my Primer, just cuz I'm usually running Fortifier with those

I'll let my Primary be my Acolyte killer then

[velvet pulsar]

Latron will do

[long phoenix]

I've got Latron Prime Incarnon, that'll do nicely

[velvet pulsar]

Also BTW...

Archgun deployers are reliable now

[long phoenix]

I haven't done Profit Taker yet so I don't have the archgun launcher

[mortal roost]

Archguns good

[velvet pulsar]

Alright
Just saying, ur primary can also be utility based now

[long phoenix]

did just finally finish crafting Larkspur prime tho at least

[velvet pulsar]

That's the one and only archgun I liked most for universally using with all frames

That's not a thing anymore

Smite doesn't crit now

Well
One of many ways, yes

[long phoenix]

wha where'd he go

[velvet pulsar]

Wow u deleted all ur messages for that

[lethal bison]

why? do we mod cold on it?

[velvet pulsar]

More because the user gave choice between blight and frostbite

[lethal bison]

i prefer deadhead