builds-discussion

[vital wing]

no i use the grenades alot because i use the grenades with my epitaph and it just shreds

i only use the turrets in a survival or defence

[mellow nest]

Yeah, at first youll use the Grenades offensively. Later on you will discover that swapping her hold/tap is the way to go and youll switch to using the Blaze Artillery a lot, using the Grenades mostly for shield regen / shield gate

[vital wing]

ill keep that noted aha

[mellow nest]

Both work well for Steel path and I use both with 2 different builds

You dont need a subsume for either really. Ofc there's more builds you can do, but imo there these 2 main ones

[hearty scarab]

Yes he should’ve gotten a decaying DR rather than flat armor imo

Not a 90% DR because it’d make him incredibly broken

[mellow nest]

If you want to go for the Grenades, check out Wisp's Breach Surge. You dont need it but it scales hard with the grenades. @vital wing

[hearty scarab]

Maybe like 50-75%

[mellow nest]

I can suggest what Id use for Grenade spam / Artillery unit if you want

[vital wing]

sure

[mellow nest]

Lemme whip it up in overframe

[vital wing]

i think ive put 3 forma into her already lol, ill send the build i have atm when i get home aha in college atm

[mellow nest]

Kinda also depends on your mods ofc, but I assume you have the Corrupted Mods set at a high level

[vital wing]

nws

[lost hull]

Yea I don't think 2500 health is a fair trade for 350 armor

[vital wing]

i have some corrupted mods but idk if i have them on protea atm

[hearty scarab]

Keep in mind any Warframe with innate DR abilities are insane tanky

And Inaros can almost match them without one with values alone

[vital wing]

so is inaros good now then?

ive always thought he was weak but thats prolly cause i dont rly have a build for him

[lost hull]

I mainly use mine as a cc type so survivability is usually less of a problem but him not have access to any good one shot prevention besides every 30 seconds kinda stops him from tanking past a point

[vital wing]

ahh right okay just kinda seemed week lol so i never really took to his playstyle lol. Has he had a rework yet?

if he hasnt he will get one before chroma tbh

[hearty scarab]

His kit is still mediocre

[vital wing]

fair enough

[hearty scarab]

He’s just a good lazy tank

[novel bear]

He does have what is probably the best grouping in the game

[hearty scarab]

Like the laziest tank probably

[hearty scarab]

True

[lost hull]

I've always liked the scarab Swarm part of his kit, so I always try to focus on that one

[hearty scarab]

Can make
Him auto revive now lol

If s kavats r active when downed

[lost hull]

Ah yea, makes sense

[vital wing]

fair enough

[hearty scarab]

His crowd control is also fairly good

[vital wing]

sick

ill have to go back to him and play him

[hearty scarab]

That being said CC is useless if things don’t hurt you anyway.

[vital wing]

thats true lmfao

[hearty scarab]

Same with his healing and armor

His kit is basically all survival but his base values are high enough to just not care

Besides his grouping

For context he’s the only frame who can go afk in a nullifer bubble

Which is why I’ll always regard him as the laziest

Gauss is a close 2nd tho

[mellow nest]

This is what I use:
Free Roam Grenades (+ Breach Surge)
https://overframe.gg/build/903322/

Indoors Grenades (+ Breach Surge)
https://overframe.gg/build/903315/

Turrets (+ Archon Vitality)
https://overframe.gg/build/903316/

I almost always use Temporal Erosion. Its great for Free Roam (aside Orb Vallis) and most other content too.
You can use Archon Vitality for the Turret build, it doubles Heat procs which is extremely strong.
If you dont have it yet or not very high then using Umbral Vitality is decent too, as it grants +10% strength aswell, if you can fit it.
I have multiple Narrow Minded mods, one at Rank7 and one at Rank10, so I can mess with builds like these.

@vital wing

You dont really need Vitality outside of Infested Content / Archon Vitality imo, can do Rolling Guard here instead or anything else you want.
I highly recommend looking into Wisp's Breach Surge with the Grenade Builds, its really strong, especially with the +100% strength you can grant it

The builds dont really use blind rage much because I just think it sucks. My opinion anyways

Well suck as in negative efficiency sucks, even with Dispensary

[hearty scarab]

Doesn’t protea have innate rolling guard

With her 4.

[mellow nest]

No

[hearty scarab]

Plus grouping plus shield energy health return

[velvet pulsar]

Her 4 is a death gate

[hearty scarab]

Doesn’t it grant iframes too

And status cleanse.

[velvet pulsar]

IDK about that

[mellow nest]

Only on activation

You dont ever use it to revert, normally, unless you die in it

Simply because it takes up to 10 seconds in which you cant do anything

[velvet pulsar]

I switched to invert tap/hold abilities
I always keep it active but cancel it the moment the countdown is about to end

[hearty scarab]

👅

[velvet pulsar]

Then reactivate it

[mellow nest]

Its directly tied to how much you move around. So its instant if you dont move and extremely long if you move the whole time

[hearty scarab]

It’s literally rolling guard on demand 😭

[mellow nest]

My guy read the text or play her at least

[velvet pulsar]

Status Cleanse is on rewind

[hearty scarab]

3s initial status cleanse on rewind

[mellow nest]

Brother you dont know how she works, I hate to be the one to say it like this

You do not rewind is what you dont get

[hearty scarab]

Just activate it then activate it again bro

[mellow nest]

Read what I wrote above

As to why you dont rewind, or play her and find out yourself

[hearty scarab]

Why would you NOT move.

[velvet pulsar]

U can't really take advantage of status cleanse if u wanna move one direction

[mellow nest]

Huh

[velvet pulsar]

But invulnerability is a yes

[mellow nest]

OK let's clear it up

[hearty scarab]

Why is using rewind even an issue??

[velvet pulsar]

I wanna keep it simple.
I press 4, I walk around, I cancel 4 when it is about to end.
I repeat.

[mellow nest]

You activate it, thats iframes right here (in which you cant do anything but move).
You can do anything now.
If you rewind or the timer runs out without cancel or you die, you revert to the position you activated it in.
The revert time is directly tied to how much and how fast you moved.
The more you moved during the anchor duration, the more you need to rewind.
At 12 seconds anchor duration, your rewind timer can already be 10 seconds moving normally or more if you read traveled far.

No one reverts it, ever, unless they die or the timer runs out and they forgot to cancel it

[pale belfry]

subsume over it. No longer an issue when you not use it

🤣

[hearty scarab]

If you have any casting speed you still have the benefit of the iframes anyway

At least 2s

[mellow nest]

I explained that earlier, but here is a more detailed description

[velvet pulsar]

Yes, the last part.
I do not revert it manually

[mellow nest]

You dont really get it I think. Perhaps watch a video on her

[hearty scarab]

Just rewind her manually 😭

Why is that even an issue

It’s not like it’s a lot of energy loss

[mellow nest]

Ah well you probably dont know but her augments only work while the Anchor is active. I can see now how you didn't understand it

[pale belfry]

imagine care about energy on protea. They must be skill issue in energy economy

[hearty scarab]

Just walk around for 3s then rewind again

[hearty scarab]

You don’t even need the armor strip 😭

[velvet pulsar]

For those rewind animation, u don't do anything
U return back to same place of casting

I don't want any of that

[hearty scarab]

I mean if ur using strip i guess it’ll create an issue

[mellow nest]

You have 2 augments and the armor strip is really nice

Well 3, but 2 that get used

[karmic beacon]

Anyone know of a good Praedos build?

[hearty scarab]

Wait

Are you using the moving turret one

💀

[mellow nest]

You can, yeah, its completely busted

Brother you dont even play her

Lmao

[hearty scarab]

Yeah I see why using rewind would be an issue

[velvet pulsar]

I use both augments coz good QoL
Both augments force her 4 with 2

I'd like to keep her 4 in case a sudden toxin one-shot

[mellow nest]

Imagine getting backseat gamed by someone that doesn't even play that frame

[hearty scarab]

I lowkey don’t even bother using augments

Just heat prime and group with her 4

[velvet pulsar]

I play protea so I understand ya

[pale belfry]

You dont need any

[hearty scarab]

no

[pale belfry]

wrong type

[mellow nest]

Its all good, let's just agree to disagree then

[pale belfry]

lmao

[mellow nest]

It was directed at InarosMain, LeCan

[hearty scarab]

Either way it is rolling guard it’s just restrictive if you use armor strip augment

[velvet pulsar]

Ironically her Repair Dispensery augment is more useful for other frames than herself

[hearty scarab]

Sacrifice tech

[velvet pulsar]

Yep

[hearty scarab]

:knowers:

[mellow nest]

Its a bit unfortunate really. This could have been smth else like a combined orb or whatever or also a mobile dispensary lmao

[velvet pulsar]

We did talk about it long ago

[hearty scarab]

Ik lol

[vital wing]

am i right in thinking wisp pretty much has the exact same ability just instead of the 1 disspenser she has 3

[velvet pulsar]

Nah it's got its own good uses

[hearty scarab]

We talked about infinite revive stuff and protea can still do it iirc

With uh what’s it called?

The energy orb sentinel

[pale belfry]

shield gating from her is enough

[hearty scarab]

It’s kinda just a niche thing

[velvet pulsar]

Repair Dispensery adds an extra thing
Wisp's augment adds pre-existing trio into a single unit with the only advantage being lesser energy

It still takes same amount of mote cap

[pale belfry]

i dont even care to use it most the time, protea augment.

[hearty scarab]

Bc they’re all QoL

[vital wing]

ahh right fe

mb

[hearty scarab]

I dont use a subsume on her because I like her 4th a lot

[vital wing]

also thanks @mellow nest for the builds for protea, rly apreciated

🙂

[pale belfry]

If you know how to control a frame, a lot way to use. Not only these augment is QOL btw

[velvet pulsar]

I have a separate config where I subsumed Ophanim Eyes over 4 coz protea already messes with heat inherit

[hearty scarab]

What augments does he have besides mobile turret, armor strip, and dispensary

Or just those 3

[mellow nest]

For sure, I'm always up to talk about her
Make sure to put your own spin on it tho, dont be afraid to try out stuff. The turrets dont have amazing range so less than 80% range feels a bit bad.
Also try out switching hold/tap cast for her in the options, makes the 4 and the shield satellites much better to use, but it will make you not use the grenades anymore

[velvet pulsar]

Her 1 doesn't have an augment IIRC

[mellow nest]

Yeah, she's got those 3

[velvet pulsar]

The turret locker augment makes her a 2nd xaku in terms of floaty gun

[vital wing]

it doesnt reallly need one tbh

[mellow nest]

Yeah its super stacked

[velvet pulsar]

At this point I'm asking for Powercreep

[mellow nest]

Also works great for some objectives and Sentinels and such

[velvet pulsar]

Imagine her 1 gets a QoL augment where it increases all of her ability duration by a lot

[mellow nest]

Or just combine both versions of it, that would be great

[vital wing]

thats what i was thinking lol

[velvet pulsar]

Nah that'd feel weird

[hearty scarab]

Also it’s duration that affects the turrets more right? Str technically does too but only to a certain extent

Since it’s only changing the base from what it scales from

[mellow nest]

It wouldn't be too strong, requiring a mod slot, its more of a luxury option

[velvet pulsar]

U deploy slash ones on enemy chokepoints
U deploy shield ones on camping spot or where ur allies go

[mellow nest]

If it could proc electric then oh boy

[vital wing]

duration and range

well more duration cause they already have a base range of 30m

[hearty scarab]

Nautilus god

[mellow nest]

With 80% Range its still good indoors, but its already noticeable in smth like defense or bigger rooms

[vital wing]

tbh i would use range mods and then use duration archon shards

[mellow nest]

Yeah duration is probably the biggest issue

[pale belfry]

Lmao

[vital wing]

or the other way round, depends on the build u want tbh

[pale belfry]

beside protea, i got a speedva mag

😂

[vital wing]

with all my builds in general there all strength based and i need to get out the habbit of doing it because its getting me nowhere

[velvet pulsar]

Does everyone agree that blue and orange shards are the worst 2 archon shards?

[hearty scarab]

hey.

Yeah they’re pretty awful to use

[pale belfry]

still pretty good

tox dmg

[hearty scarab]

Minus maybe energy max on blue

[vital wing]

blue aint too bad but orange yh i think its weakest of em all

[velvet pulsar]

Coz I noticed that both of them are the ones with flat values were percentage values should've been

[pale belfry]

topaz got only 1, at least 2

[hearty scarab]

Make em affect base values.

[pale belfry]

But yeah, DE should do a patch for this UI problem.

[hearty scarab]

That would be actually kinda okay maybe it’d save EHP tanking

[hearty scarab]

Blue

I gotta make a 5x topaz for HP ngl

[velvet pulsar]

Imagine having 1000 blue shards

[vital wing]

this makes me feel poor af XD

[hearty scarab]

I need to slot on 5x tau green

5x tau purple and orange

On 3 extra Inaros primes

That I won’t use

[vital wing]

whats the need 😂

[hearty scarab]

Tau green is for a toxin sandstorm build

Purple is for an electric sandstorm

Orange is for HP amazing

Maxxing*

[vital wing]

oh

VALIIID

[hearty scarab]

Pretty sure my highest solo rn is 22k

An average build is like

5-12k HP

If you going no grace 12k

With grace 10.8k

[velvet pulsar]

BTW purple for ability damage doesn't affect influence exalteds

[hearty scarab]

Nah I’m using it for electric sandstorm

[velvet pulsar]

So that's an advantage inaros got over others

[hearty scarab]

Electric sandstorm ttk is kinda insane

Same with tox with full strip

[velvet pulsar]

Being able to use melee to increased ability dmg

[hearty scarab]

Inaros the last statsticker

💔

I still don’t know why it isn’t based on emissive.

Or energy

I also need to try blast elec sandstorm

Last I checked it was buns

All of which can hit around 170kpm which is pretty good

[velvet pulsar]

How about xata blast?

Does sandstorm kill count as melee kill?

[hearty scarab]

No

[velvet pulsar]

I wonder if xata blast sandstorm can loop

[hearty scarab]

Sandstorm is fully an ability

Also didn’t they fix blast doing inf loop stuff

[velvet pulsar]

I thought that was just with Zephyr
But then again, I think sandstorm and that share a code

[hearty scarab]

Yeah but they took a lot of components out

God I wish it was zephyr tornado.

I mean it kinda is with elemental

But that’s a stretch

Yo bro. Please don’t use finesse 💔

Also how r u getting energy?

[midnight horizon]

That was for gladiator set

[midnight horizon]

I don't. It's literally pure melee

[hearty scarab]

LOL

[midnight horizon]

Just using nikana to kill

I can still do 100+ kpm so it's good enough

[hearty scarab]

Wait then how are you topping out ur 500+?

[midnight horizon]

That's the other build with warcry

[hearty scarab]

Ah

[grave cloak]

if you're going to go that route with only melee why not just use kullervo at that point

[midnight horizon]

This one's with lycaths hunt so I can trigger restorative bond to keep maintaining sacrifice

[grave cloak]

it really makes no sense to use inaros that way

[midnight horizon]

Because kullervo is busy playing with coda hirudo

With melee influence

[grave cloak]

these are strange days

[hearty scarab]

Because he’s lazy

That’s about it

[grave cloak]

and how is kullervo high effort

[hearty scarab]

Requires ability casts to survive

[midnight horizon]

Here's the thing

[hearty scarab]

Inaros just eats it

[midnight horizon]

Why need healing on kullervo if he's gonna do og gating anyway

So.. use inaros.

[hearty scarab]

And since it’s a LS build

[grave cloak]

the ability casts in question: just use the augment for his 2 for survivability and build for duration

[hearty scarab]

Literally do anything and you heal

[velvet pulsar]

You're min maxing sacrifice?
I have a strat

[hearty scarab]

lol.

Subsume dispensary

Slap on augment gg

[midnight horizon]

So far it's with primed regen, restorative bond, diriga priming, lycaths hunt

[velvet pulsar]

Yup, I don't gatekeep stuff

[midnight horizon]

So it's like a circular system that supports each other

[grave cloak]

kullervo doesn't gate anymore with the augment for his 2 though

[hearty scarab]

Bro.

That’s gating.

[midnight horizon]

He does gate still. His 2 augment makes it so you don't have to cast it everytime

[hearty scarab]

😭

[velvet pulsar]

What if u didn't need any of that and conveniently guaranteed sacrifice revive?

[grave cloak]

that's not

[midnight horizon]

How so

[grave cloak]

it's literally just free constant regen not gating

[hearty scarab]

Who’s gonna tell em

[midnight horizon]

It's free constant regen, WITH gating

[velvet pulsar]

Repair Dispensery
https://youtu.be/M5h9zZ0dCrs?si=OqBJAQpXn1SdW8Ms

[grave cloak]

there's only a handful of times I've gated as kullervo with the augment and that's for level capping against infested

[midnight horizon]

Literally becomes dollar store dante

[grave cloak]

[quiet laurel]

what is it this time

[midnight horizon]

The 9999 guy swoops in it's joever for all of us

[midnight horizon]

I'll save this fr thanks a lot

[hearty scarab]

Scroll

[grave cloak]

what's so special about 9999

[quiet laurel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/700814126519156749/1357339215431602368/caption.gif

[velvet pulsar]

Basically any frame can do it

[hearty scarab]

Cascade club :knowers:

[grave cloak]

I suppose

[quiet laurel]

easy resource farms and fast void trace cap
also fun

[midnight horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/my-honest-reaction-gif-10673976111485284091

[grave cloak]

I mean I do level cap disruptions like every other week tbh

it's not really that hard.

[quiet laurel]

yeah it isnt

[velvet pulsar]

I think u specifically mean taking advantage of the on cast invulnerability?

[quiet laurel]

too much to ask of me

[midnight horizon]

Make it not too much then

[hearty scarab]

“Kullervo isn’t a gating frame”

In short

[quiet laurel]

kullervo in fact gates with overguard

its just constant braindead gate

[hearty scarab]

Overguard EHP being incapable of tanking ANYTHING.

Unless ur rhino.

[quiet laurel]

even rhino OG gets shredded

[hearty scarab]

Yeahhhhh

Gotta use the death laser tech

😭

[velvet pulsar]

Also despite kullervo's new augment, you're still not supposed to straight up murder ur range to negative.
U still gotta have enemies in range, in case the melee you're using is not "melee"

[hearty scarab]

Crank that range ohh yeahhhh

That being said you basically immortal gating until it duration runs out or there’s no enemies

Think of gauss gating but duration based and has to have enemies nearby

[solar reef]

i just like to stress-test builds and milk kuva from from Level cap Kuva Disruption

[velvet pulsar]

IDK why people think range is compromisable on him
All his abilities get affected by it
Sure get rid of 4.
Maybe u don't even need his 3 in case ur melee is already nuking
Maybe u don't care about teleport from his 1 too.
But his 2. U cannot compromise range for 2 in ur right mind

[grave cloak]

I've not seen a kullervo build that dumps range tbh even before the augment came out

[velvet pulsar]

Unfortunately then only my eyes have been cursed

[hearty scarab]

NAHHHH

NAHHHH O FOUND SMTH

I lied

[velvet pulsar]

U in simulacrum?

[hearty scarab]

Aw.

Old tech that probably doesn’t exist anymore

But OG used to be able to get DRs lol.

Ancient healers and dodge 75%

[solar reef]

chat do yall consider Kullervo the Umbra of the Drifter

[quiet laurel]

erm actkstually gauss aegis isnt gating its just constant recharge, you dont abuse gating at all 🤓

[velvet pulsar]

There's still one frame I'm aware of who can have regular DR on overguard

[solar reef]

I feel like it should be his signature warframe

[velvet pulsar]

It should've been Stalker!

[hearty scarab]

ts pmo

[quiet laurel]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1293884958053503036/1355621578892644424/cat.gif

[grave cloak]

I mean kullervo tried to kill ballas, umbra couldn't because he was already mind controlled

[velvet pulsar]

Stalker is Drifter fren

[pale belfry]

kullervo has cool design but got a lmao story

[velvet pulsar]

Stalker parallels Umbra way more than Kullervo

[hearty scarab]

Bro

I need ancient healers broooo

[velvet pulsar]

1. They got the same body design
2. They both have been tragic dads
3. Stalker had his sentient era along with War greatsword, while Umbra is anti-sentient and Paracesis is also a quest greatsword which is anti-sentient.

I want a greatsword duel between these sentient vs anti-sentient kits!

[hearty scarab]

Also new Inaros cap tank with Furis feels so good

[velvet pulsar]

Lifesteal eh

[hearty scarab]

It feels great compared to melee naros bro

[velvet pulsar]

I had a synergy in mind but I never tested it

I wanted to combine Furis lifesteal with Well of Life lifesteal to see what happens

[hearty scarab]

It heals a lot

[velvet pulsar]

Wondered if furis lifesteal somehow stacked up on well of life lifesteal share, because it does share that stolen heal with everyone in the squad

[hearty scarab]

Unsure

[velvet pulsar]

And it bypasses Defense Object healing cap of 500 HP per second

[agile vortex]

Furis Incarnon build?

[hearty scarab]

Pure heat god

[velvet pulsar]

The only other thing which can do that is a friendly leech eximus

[velvet pulsar]

Ever tried blast furis for the memes?

[hearty scarab]

That’s a thing???

[hearty scarab]

I mean I’ve seen gas cold.

[velvet pulsar]

Sorry typo

I have auto suggest on

[hearty scarab]

Ah

Twin

[hard dove]

Innate heat, good status so yeah

[velvet pulsar]

That reply was for eximus

[hearty scarab]

[hard dove]

[velvet pulsar]

I accidentally said "heat eximus" instead of leech eximus

Thx to this furis chat

[hearty scarab]

I mean you could always have ur hound steal the aura

Just pray it’s the right one

[velvet pulsar]

Yep
Also Mind Controlled leech eximus not only instantly heals everyone in squad to max but also builds a lot of dmg for absorb nuke

[grave cloak]

https://overframe.gg/build/465709/furis/furis-incarnon-general-use

[solar reef]

mind control decoy🤑

[velvet pulsar]

I don't like their differences in duration

[hearty scarab]

Also did they patch blood well stuff for Nyx /vpruna

[grave cloak]

nyx yes

[velvet pulsar]

For nyx yes

[hearty scarab]

Voruna doesn’t work either then lol.

Nothing stacks on blood well

Shame

[velvet pulsar]

For voruna IDK
Also I think voruna blood altar afflictions nuke was actually bugged in terms of UI and showed more numbers than the real dmg u dealt

[hearty scarab]

Broooooooooooooo

[velvet pulsar]

Well of Life zymos still works though

[hearty scarab]

😭

I am NOT building zymos

Does Furis work?

[velvet pulsar]

Double stacking lifesteal, likely should do
Like I said, I never tested their double stacking

Besides, I'm addicted to Dual Toxocyst now

There's barely any scope for other secondaries

ETA forced me to try ocucor all these months later, and I did enjoy using it with Pistoleer + rauta + furax wraith incarnon

[agile vortex]

I have a general build/mod question do you even need Expel/Bane mods? don't they only like incrase dmg against a certain faction, why not just get more crit or even something else that boosts the dmg even further for everything and not only a certain faction

[velvet pulsar]

Don't follow it blindly
There's flexible options mentioned in the guide

[pale belfry]

If you could get more crit from mods. There is not much crit dmg source from it

[grave cloak]

to answer your question, nope not all the time. but they're very nice for minmaxxing. also take into account that ninjase does level cap frequently which is why he makes use of bane mods. some factions like scaldra/techrot don't have a bane mod at all(bane of orokin/bane of infested don't work on them) so you can also swap the bane mods in this case

[solar reef]

blood alter? i’m guessing

they fixed that like

a year ago

[velvet pulsar]

Altar

[pale belfry]

on voruna, still work

[solar reef]

its not even worth using on her though since she status nukes

[pale belfry]

flexing purpose

[grave cloak]

shrimply just use mecha set on her tbh

[pale belfry]

people usually do that. Show big dmg number and some build testing

[velvet pulsar]

Double mecha set

When I saw that augment, I knew they copied a lot of concept from mecha set

[solar reef]

it makes sense

they ARE her companions

[velvet pulsar]

Dogs?

[solar reef]

yeah

thats her lore

her grafted heads are her dead companions

it makes sense for them to have companion mods to some extent

in this case via augment

[velvet pulsar]

Mecha exclusively to dogs(not even infested dog)
Augment given to a dog frame, and since all frames have infested strain (I assume) then voruna is indirectly first infested dog to get mecha set

[agile vortex]

alr why am I getting blast or gas instead of viral 😭 (it's not exactly as ninjase's build cuz I don't have primed heated charge)

[pale belfry]

heat + cold

[grave cloak]

you're combining heat and cold together

[pale belfry]

you should tox + cold

[agile vortex]

how do I combine tox and cold

I have all 3 elements there

[grave cloak]

elements combine from top left to top right, bottom left to bottom right in that order

[velvet pulsar]

Heat mod after those 2 mods

[solar reef]

mod order

[pale belfry]

change the order.
The order should be: left to right, top to bottom

[grave cloak]

you'll want to put cold and toxin first in this case

right to left?

[solar reef]

mods move from top left -> top right, then bottom left -> bottom right

elements will combine in that order

[velvet pulsar]

I wonder how you'll understand Tenet Glaxion if u ever try to build that

[grave cloak]

it gets weirder with rivens but that's the general gist yeah

[velvet pulsar]

That was the first time I got to know about HCET

[pale belfry]

override it again with another cold mod

or do corro blast. Ez

corro cold

[solar reef]

not really, rivens just read bottom up

[velvet pulsar]

I just run pure cold now
Handed it over to On Call Crew with nightwave augment so now he generates energy orb when I summon him

Never even bothered to get a kuva zarr

[pale belfry]

i gave my crew sporelancer instead of zarr

[velvet pulsar]

Secondary Sporelacer was my crew's first weapon

Although I think he didn't proc secondary enervate on it

I think crews still don't proc their weapon's arcanes

[pale belfry]

most arcane require conditions to use

the same with mods

they cant use it properly

[velvet pulsar]

So if they're non-conditional, they can?

Maybe because it's pre-triggered even before a mission begins, straight up an upgrade in arsenal?

[novel bear]

Wonder if smite changes will make it work better on ivara with navigator

[velvet pulsar]

How will u navigate it if it doesn't get a projectile?

What if the cast is hitscan?

[novel bear]

Is it not a projectile anymore?

[velvet pulsar]

Also I've never tried if navigator can work on harrow subsume (no advantage of it)

[velvet pulsar]

It's Marked for Death's brother now

[tawny bay]

Is this build good for burston incarnon?

[velvet pulsar]

Younger brother who has hit the gym while the older brother has pain in knees and spine now.

[solar reef]

Thanks ash(me) for ruining M4D

[pale belfry]

DE doesnt make crew store their data in RAM.

everytime active a conditions

they need to active a cocurrent counter

more work for RAM to store and handle it

[mighty flare]

Swap out rifle aptitude

[tawny bay]

Ik i want to use hammer shot for more crit damage with status chance but whats a better substitute till then?

[velvet pulsar]

Same goes with mirage clones

[mighty flare]

really anything, galv scope, magnetic capacity, heat mods, etc

[cobalt badger]

Anyone know a good wukong build

[willow zenith]

Anyone have a good War build? or any recommendation on how to mod it?

[solar reef]

build it like any other crabsweat melee

its rather mediocre though so dont expect any insane results

[willow zenith]

What is a crabsweat melee??

they told me it wasn't very good, but I really like the weapon and I already put a catalyst in it so I want to give it a use

[novel bear]

Condition overload, range, attack speed, blood rush, steel, weeping wounds, electric, anti-faction, tennokai

The current generalized modding scheme for fast attack melees

[stiff wave]

Hello is there some good weapon for mr8?

[steep oasis]

tried it and it works very well

[rare hill]

the abilitie 1 of xaku is good, or a helminth is better?

[steep oasis]

as a xaku main i've kept it, dunno if the mirage one is better, but its duration stops with untime and is like 40+s with primed continuity, so u basically cast it once and u have it active for all the mission for just 25 energy (untime is used for grasp of lohk too)

also u can subsume nourish on 3 if u want to go full weapon platform (but you'd lose armor strip)

[willow zenith]

tysm I didn't know that

[rare hill]

so u think the mirage helmith is the best for him?

can turn inmortal with that?

[tepid scaffold]

Pillage xaku > all other xaku

"Omg but he already has armor strip!"

Yeah, but only in set areas. It isn't mobile, AND you can't abuse the free ability stuff while effortlessly shield gating

[nova hedge]

Can someone pls show me a good build for limbo that don’t require rhino or grendel subsumed abilities

[steep oasis]

Xaku is not a tank frame, so it never will be, you might get a bit more firepower with it but it might be negligible

[steep oasis]

U lose lohk guns if u use pillage as u need more str (which implies losing a range mod) , if u want mobile armor strip u can go with styanax subsume or terrify for now

[tepid scaffold]

No you don't lol

Subsume over his 3 mode ability

Guns + pillage with enough strength to strip and high duration/range.

Cast pillage > run around for 3-5s stripping everything within LoS > pillage ends

All while the guns are shooting stuff

I've used that build to level cap dozens of times

Arcane steadfast + molt augmented. Then use a mystic bond setup for your companion

Free abilities = excellent energy economy = spam casting pillage 24/7

Iirc it just needs ~2 strength shards to hit the full strip threshold

[steep oasis]

Nice build then

[timber sparrow]

yall i want some guidance for koumei based on me making frequent use of 1 and 4 and idk help bruh

[full seal]

any damage based exilus mods for pistols?

[visual kettle]

u dont have hammer shot?

[mighty flare]

Don’t build for strength unless using a subsume. Use stretch and get some form of energy economy. Everything else goes into survivability or mobility

[timber sparrow]

lame

https://tenor.com/view/koumei-gambling-awdangit-koumei-gambling-mrwarframeguy-gif-14566313064866036936

[mighty flare]

Also get her augment too

Reduces cooldown on her decrees

[timber sparrow]

now for my burston

[rare hill]

anyone can show me a glaive prime build?

idk why i never do damage with him

and the video builds always is one shoting

[slate hedge]

What's a good riven roll for occucor

[deep grotto]

Inaros got a good subsume ability or nah?

[midnight horizon]

You mean is there a good subsume for inaros or... Is inaros' subsume good

[deep grotto]

The latter

[midnight horizon]

Sac steel
Primed pressure
Amalgam organ
Volatile quick
Galv reflex
Normal elementalist
Last two mod slots are for power throw / killing blow / faction mod
Melee duplicate

[midnight horizon]

The pocket sand? It's good for some very specific builds

Like, the electric kavat volt build

[deep grotto]

Intriguing

[burnt lava]

specifically only good with volt

[deep grotto]

Well i have a gara that i was planning on subsuming too
Does it matter who i subsumed first?

[burnt lava]

inaros can do the same when subsuming shock, but DE should let us mod kavats

as of now kavats can do a lot of damage but their damage is fixed

[proper bronze]

Can someone recommend me a build for the Furis incarnon? plz

[midnight horizon]

Any good build for an early game xoris?

[novel bear]

Do you have any glaive specific mods?

[midnight horizon]

That would be the gleaming talon

[novel bear]

There’s a lot of glaive specific mods
The one you’re looking for for xoris is volatile quick return, found on deimos

It makes the aoe explosion bigger

[midnight horizon]

It's a pretty simple build
Sac steel
Sac press
Volatile quick
Amalgam organ
Galv reflex
Normal elementalist
90% elec
Power throw / faction / killing blow
Melee influence

Already have Volatile Quick Return

All of these mods are flexible for their normal counterparts

[novel bear]

Half of those aren’t early game

[midnight horizon]

Yeah and I clarified even more

[novel bear]

Elementalist is locked behind new war, I think you can get galv sooner now

And you shouldn’t be using normal reflex, it’s not very useful

[midnight horizon]

Sacrificial Steel? Uhh idk, I cannot get that one yet

[novel bear]

True steel is fine

If you have corrupt charge use that instead of galv reflex

[midnight horizon]

Oh?

Yea just replace them with their normal counterparts if you have those

Galv reflex > corrupt charge
Sac steel > true steel
Primed press > normal press
Amalgam organ > normal organ
Etc

I recommend keeping 2 mods with wind up speed though so if you don't have amalgam organ then use killing blow on the last slot

[novel bear]

Replace elementalist with power throw/faction/killing blow/6060 electric

[midnight horizon]

This is the build I have rn

[novel bear]

Xoris doesn’t have much status chance, so it’s not going to do much with viral
It force procs electric though, and modding for electric will increase the damage of those procs

[midnight horizon]

So I would use electric based mods?

[novel bear]

Yes

[midnight horizon]

Xoris just wants pure elec, with at least one elec mod, so you can improve it later with melee influence. Don't need no other element

So now i have:

Volatile Quick Return
Melee Prowess
Corrupt charge
Vicious Frost
Shocking touch
Pressure point

[midnight horizon]

Oh

Melee prowess can go. Replace with 60/60 elec. Replace vicious with killing blow. Add organ shatter then true steel

[novel bear]

Don’t worry about influence for now, or the 60/60 elec since you probably don’t have that

[midnight horizon]

Yeah not yet hahahah

I have focused Energy though

Is that good as a replacement for 60/60 (for now)?

[novel bear]

Yes

[midnight horizon]

Aight thanks, imma level up my xoris now so I can use some of the mods

[novel bear]

The electricity is more important than the status chance anyways

[midnight horizon]

I see, so it wants electricity

What about atomos?

I heard it's a "Prime weapon" what does that mean?

[chrome badge]

primer you mean

it means you can just put lots of status effects on an enemy real fast

[midnight horizon]

Ah

[chrome badge]

you are "priming" the enemy for greater kabooms basically

[midnight horizon]

Oh

[chrome badge]

so statuses like corrosive, heat, viral, magnetic, are great for increasing dmg against any enemy

[novel bear]

Viral is the best of those, since everything has health

[chrome badge]

corrosive heat strips enemy armor
viral increases dmg to health
magnetic strips shields and overguard

[midnight horizon]

So best bet is Viral

BTW thanks for the Xoris tips, I was blessed ti hit 50k dmg max bc of it hahahah

[chrome badge]

it only gets better...

[midnight horizon]

Oh?

[chrome badge]

all i can really say is buckle up and embrace the shenanigans :3

[midnight horizon]

Oh I see haha ah

[wide saddle]

Question

Is nova a nuke frame?

If yes, how would I build her to do outstanding damage. ( MR11 )

[velvet pulsar]

I kinda wish robotic enemies shouldn't have health

[velvet pulsar]

Yes

[wide saddle]

Mind suggesting a build?

[velvet pulsar]

Ehh the kind of nukes I do with nova aren't conventional

[bitter drum]

stats to go for with dagath?

[wide saddle]

[velvet pulsar]

I nuke with 4 not 2

And takes damage credit and inherit from whatever u use to kill enemies

So it starts chain reaction

[wide saddle]

So

4 then start shooting 1 person

[novel bear]

You need buffs so the explosion will do more damage

[velvet pulsar]

Yep
Though there are more detailed synergies

[wide saddle]

Ahhh okay

[tawny bay]

No😔

[limpid orbit]

are there any recommended weapons to use with wisp?

[midnight horizon]

||what's my mother doing in warframe|| I just know ones for melee: glaives and contagion zaw

I also recommend any projectile based melee tbf like innodem

[grave cloak]

Range, and then keep positive strength and duration

[brisk epoch]

me when i minmax oraxia for health

[mighty flare]

lowballing it ngl

[hexed sundial]

she can reach 100k+, that's not minmaxing

[icy latch]

Any good builds for Volt still trying to get Volt Prime

[pale tiger]

any suggestions for this build

[visual kettle]

oraxia have that much hp ? i dont see the idea of bellicose

(never played her)

[pale tiger]

She can get around 1800hp when she's in her 4th ability

[olive cedar]

Please can anyone tell me which is better?

[grave cloak]

Amalgam barrel diffusion is a weird mod to have

But to answer your question probably the left one

[midnight horizon]

It's just a mod to sacrifice a lil bit of dps for mobility

[brisk epoch]

theres no shot in hell that any frame can get close to 100k actual HP, EHP sure, but actual HP? not even inaros can get that far, not that i've seen, at least

and im not talking about EHP, im talking purely about the number above my red bar, my warframe's health value

[hexed sundial]

Oh wait I confused ehp with hp, I’m sorry about that

EHP is the like the hp but taking in things like damage reduction into account right

[midnight horizon]

Yes

[mellow nest]

InarosMain has a pic of just that

He searches for mentions of his name in this server every day for some reason, so he's probably gonna tag you with it later

[brisk epoch]

As in a pic of inaros with 100k HP?

[mellow nest]

560k or smth iirc

[brisk epoch]

WH

[mellow nest]

Idk

[brisk epoch]

The HUH

HOW

[mellow nest]

Could be 56k but I'm pretty sure its more

Dunno man

@brisk epoch

[brisk epoch]

SIXTY ONE MILLION

WHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAA

There's no way that wasn't a bug or something

[mellow nest]

Tbh it could be that he was in some kind of Steel Path machine / Archwing / etc. The health will display like this

[hard dove]

How the heck you got shield on

[brisk epoch]

Shield blessing

[mellow nest]

It isnt mine, I assume its what I just wrote

Probably in a rampart or smth

Would be my guess

[brisk epoch]

That would make sense

Cuz it is a grineer tileset on mars

And those have ramparts galore

[mellow nest]

A lvl cap bombard has like 30 million health I think and the ramparts are super tanky

[brisk epoch]

Yeah

[wise nova]

I think at 300% strength a Parasitic link+abundant mutation Nidus will grant +3600% health, which is +19800 health for Nidus prime. That's probably the most a typical player would reach without fissures(+39600), or squadmates.

Oraxia+Nidus has a notable advantage in Silken Stride. At 300% strength it grants Oraxia a +3x health multiplier. With a 300% Parasitic link that goes up to +5.25x. at 675 health Parasitic Vitality will grant +24300 health, which will then be multiplied to 151,875. That's once again before getting into fissures for either of them(which I'm now to lazy math out)

That's just from the surface level stuff I understand. People more competent could probably push that way further.(Especially considering that picture for inaros)

[eager charm]

any tips to improve my valkyr? just got her heirloom and her rework is rly fun

[astral tinsel]

why so much range?

[eager charm]

Yanking enemies together I guess, I havent rly felt the need for more strength or duration yet

Does steel path cascade fissures just fine

Any interesting subsumes to try?

[astral tinsel]

roar

[eager charm]

I have a min range roar over 1 build for eta/eda ja

[velvet pulsar]

There's voruna subsume

[astral tinsel]

oh yeah

actual infinite energy

gonna be fire on Oberon too

[velvet pulsar]

Oberon has more options

Citrine subsume in case of high strength coz voruna subsume doesn't scale drop rates with str
Pool of Life subsume offers highest amount of health orbs per enemy, being 4 drops, which is faster than dispensery.
Also it might be possible to spam smite on well of life target.

Also Damage Decoy coz this is HP based nuking.

Smite subsume itself can go on other frames which one-shot an enemy after it reaches a specific health threshold, like Oraxia's 1

[astral tinsel]

citrine's you have to prime enemies with and pool of life costs a mod slot

[velvet pulsar]

Citrine ability+ smite cast

Pool of Life might be worth it though

No need to use synth Deconstruct and Universal Fallout

Ofc pool of life is more active casting approach while synth Deconstruct and Universal Fallout is what I'm gonna try first

[midnight horizon]

I genuinely need an explanation as to what happened. I was using saryn to do today's sortie, obviously gonna proc toxin everywhere. My diriga procced rad onto an enemy, that enemy attacked my defense objective, then somehow the rad transferred to it?? I killed my defense objective with toxin procs afterwards obviously

Just how is this possible

[astral tinsel]

radiation hazard maybe?

are those still a thing?

[velvet pulsar]

Yes

[velvet pulsar]

Check the sortie challenge

Does it say Radiation Hazard?

[hard dove]

What stance for shattering impact?

[radiant gust]

At this point the map is gonna be red of health orbs 😂

Or do they despawn when they hit a limit? Does warframe have a health orb limit?

[midnight horizon]

Oh wow y'all right

[velvet pulsar]

It already is with synth Deconstruct

And this is without even trying hard
Now manifold bond will also proc universal fallout

[south harness]

does Nezha's Warding Halo also prevent him from getting knocked down?

[midnight horizon]

Yeah

Cuz knockdown is also a status effect

Warding halo prevents all status effects

[south harness]

peak ty

[still furnace]

Saryn spore build viable in steel path, or she just better as a weapon platform?

[midnight horizon]

Better as weapon platform

Spore build only goes to 100k each spore, so 300k dot max

And obviously you gotta be patient for them to spread to others, can't just kill mindlessly

You have venom dose already to proc corrosive anyway, just go weapon platform and kill anything anytime

[still furnace]

Ah. My friend likes her and the spores ability.

I play weapons platform so i wasnt sure.

Appreciate it.

[south harness]

spore build is super viable

if your friend wants a spore build i can provide

[still furnace]

I would very much appreciate it

[south harness]

im at uni atm but ill be home in like 2 hours

[still furnace]

All g. Just @ me or drop me a dm. I might still be awake.

[south harness]

https://overframe.gg/build/903648/

can someone give me feedback on this build

[still furnace]

I would've lmao if that was for saryn 😂

[midnight horizon]

You wouldn't want health conversion if you're doing brief respite strat aka manual shieldgating

[grave cloak]

you need more range for divine retribution nuking
also don't put an exilus mod in your main mod setup

[south harness]

handspring is meant to be augur reach but it hasnt updated i guess

[midnight horizon]

Arcane steadfast is also not important at all, equilibrium + his 2 is more than enough energy for anything

[grave cloak]

it's an okay arcane, I like to think of it as a dollar store energize

[midnight horizon]

I never said it's bad. Im saying it's completely irrelevant on nezha

[grave cloak]

but definitely pump the range up
with the augment for his 4 his range gets absolutely murked (undeserved nerf on nezha tbh) so unfortunately you need a lot more range

[midnight horizon]

A frame that generates health orbs almost as much as voruna

[south harness]

theres not gonna be that good shield gate from this its mostly 3

i swapped it for corrosive projection

[midnight horizon]

I guess that's fine then

[mellow nest]

Do you even need either?

The 3 has a death gate built in

For you to recast it

[midnight horizon]

? Nezha got no death gate

[mellow nest]

Uh well ability-goes-down-gate whatever you call that

[midnight horizon]

That's assuming that ability goes down before you get killed first

[mellow nest]

Warding Halo breaks to prevent lethal damage, leaving the player at 2 health with the invulnerability duration.

Id call it a death gate personally

[midnight horizon]

Is that a new thing now

[still furnace]

Basically what i run. But i have preperation (cos im lazy) and fleeting expertise instead of archon vitality.

[mellow nest]

Pretty sure this has been there at launch

[midnight horizon]

I'll test this out cuz I just found out about this

There's no way I missed such an important detail

[mellow nest]

Sure do, its from the wiki

[midnight horizon]

If this thing actually gates you then you genuinely don't ever need any shieldgating or tanking, just spam 3 when it breaks

[mellow nest]

Can you recall going down with him when using the halo?

[midnight horizon]

Nope, I mained him for years but that was also a while ago

[mellow nest]

Health Conversion is still not terrible on him

[astral tinsel]

so no real need for health conversion or adaptation, neat

[midnight horizon]

Brah so it IS new

I knew I wasn't tripping

[mellow nest]

Newish, yeah, but you didnt die before either due to shield gate

[midnight horizon]

Was that feature added like after people complained about him being too squishy or smth lol

[astral tinsel]

well it used to be a mostly-worse-than-timed 90% DR ability

[mellow nest]

Health Conversion improves your shield strength by a lot. If you do run Archon Vitality then it isnt such a bad pick should you do find yourself in a situation where your shield is dispelled

[astral tinsel]

if your halo is dispelled you have 2 seconds to respell it

H-A-L-O

[mellow nest]

If its a nullifier or

[grave cloak]

tbh just undo the range nerf on the 4 augment
really makes no sense to hamstring an ability to have LoS checks (which is still janky af) AND to also just gut the range

[mellow nest]

Right.. i got had lmao

[midnight horizon]

Nah cuz I lwk gotta change my build now, he don't need any gate

[mellow nest]

Well yeah

[astral tinsel]

they did reduce the nerf by like half

and there's no LoS checks that I know of

[grave cloak]

I'm quite sure the 4 has an LoS check

[mellow nest]

Ive never heard of that

[grave cloak]

I was unable to spear an enemy hiding behind a wall the other day

[mellow nest]

Its possible that it has it, but Id be very surprised

Cant really find anything on it

[astral tinsel]

I remember nuking through walls with it

[mellow nest]

Except the top comment on the wiki saying it doesnt require los, but from 1 years ago

[grave cloak]

in any case still remove the range nerf and we gucci 🗿

[astral tinsel]

maybe it was CC immune?

[grave cloak]

not sure tbh was a few weeks ago

could be misremembering

[mellow nest]

Its gonna be anecdotal evidence until we can find confirmation. I can check later in the simulacrum after work

[grave cloak]

I'm in game so I could check myself
just doing a parvos sister hunt right now so

[still furnace]

Definitely works through walls

Was using him earlier

[grave cloak]

mhmm misremembered then, ah well

[midnight horizon]

Bro I tried to test this in simulacrum and died immediately

[grave cloak]

simulacrum is known to be about as buggy as the rest of the game tbh
could try it in a quick capture mission

[midnight horizon]

Definitely not just the simulacrum

Tried it in an infested survival sp

Same thing happened

[grave cloak]

mhm

[midnight horizon]

Literally spammed 3 just in case I missed the invul window, I still died immediately

[mellow nest]

Huh? How have you played him then so far?

[midnight horizon]

Shieldgate with augur mods and cat shields

[mellow nest]

I have not once ran any kind of gating or defensive tech on him

Got 4 forma on him and hes probably my third most played frame

[midnight horizon]

Try it out yourself, stand in a crowd of hungry infested

[mellow nest]

See above

[midnight horizon]

While spamming 3

[mellow nest]

Idk why youd have to tbh, if you absorb some damage then your shield is already really big

That is ofc unless you run no strength ig

[midnight horizon]

Big but still 90% dr

[mellow nest]

90% dmg reduction to the shield health, yeah

[midnight horizon]

It's 90% redirection from your health to the shield

Regardless, why is the gate on lethal damage not happening to me

[mellow nest]

Since when?

But yeah I can test later for sure

[midnight horizon]

It's in the wiki

[mellow nest]

Yeah read it

[midnight horizon]

My theory is they meant to write "during invul period, nezha will not take lethal damage, his health will not go below 2"

And not "prevents lethal damage"

[mellow nest]

If you take damage that exceeds remaining shield health then you take this to your HP. They changed it last year that you dont insta die and remain at 2hp instead

[midnight horizon]

What are good build for Vauban, Xaku, and Nekros? No forma, no Potatoes, just max rank

(I don't have Nova yet so not now)

[mellow nest]

You can buy potatoes from the Nightwave, only potatoe the Primes and Vauban, because his Prime isnt easy to obtain and doesnt really grant much value

[midnight horizon]

That's gotta be a lie

(holy chopped compression)

[mellow nest]

Just an info

[grave cloak]

can't speak for the other 2, but xaku wants high range so that they can steal as many guns as possible upon activation of their 2

[midnight horizon]

Yes but this time I need build that doesn't need Formas and Potatoes, just Max

[midnight horizon]

Notice I kept spamming 3 here in case I missed this supposed "death gate window"

[midnight horizon]

Range? Huh

[grave cloak]

yeah

[midnight horizon]

Oh wait, maybe what you said was right, but my video still contradicts whatever was written on the wiki

[midnight horizon]

This one

[midnight horizon]

So Overextended, Stretching and other stuff like that?

[grave cloak]

indeed

[gaunt wasp]

Ability strength matters, too.

[mellow nest]

So reading into it, people say it let's 10 dmg to health through, while the wiki and others say it doesnt.
According to your experience the former seems to be true, although the patch notes contradict this since the invulnerability period never activated.

10%*

[midnight horizon]

As I read, it really doesn't matter for xaku, Xaku's dmg scales on enemy level

[mellow nest]

Yeah its weird

[midnight horizon]

Bugframe

Oh well it was a fun lil discussion, I won't be changing my nezha build anytime soon seems like

[gaunt wasp]

So deny and lohk’s grasped weapons only really rely ok enemy level?

[mellow nest]

Idk man, is it like an issue with melee attacks or smth?

[midnight horizon]

Nah cuz I tried with heavy gunners on mot sp still the same thing

[analog stirrup]

Only need enough power for gaze to full strip, grasp's damage scales with enemy level

[grave cloak]

grasp of lohk yes, scales off of enemy level
the armor strip from gaze does scale off of ability strength

[gaunt wasp]

Wait, which of the lost is the beam?

[grave cloak]

deny

[latent adder]

you didnt break halo

while halo is active u can die

[midnight horizon]

So I HAVE to break halo first?

Then this thing be misleading literally everyone

It should be "during invul period you can't die"

[latent adder]

as in if you take 200k dmg but halo has 100k health, u go to 2hp and have 2s invuln

instead of dying

[gaunt wasp]

How do you break the halo?

[latent adder]

but taking more damage than halo has health

[midnight horizon]

That's kinda crazy

So it's not to prevent you from dying at any moment, it's to prevent the halo from not doing its job: protecting you for a little while

[pale meteor]

Does anyone have any Xaku and Harrow Builds?

[latent adder]

they wrote it below thisway

makes more sense here

[midnight horizon]

Yeah just saw this one

[midnight horizon]

Just delete this atp

[latent adder]

https://overframe.gg/build/759324/xaku-prime/the-broken-void-xaku-non-helminth-and-variants/

[midnight horizon]

So to prevent the halo from getting oneshot (including you) they added this "death gate" feature

[latent adder]

u can go pillage, nourish, terrify over 3

[midnight horizon]

But if the damage is less than halo's total health it won't trigger

[latent adder]

harrow i really only use evade now https://overframe.gg/build/258768/harrow-prime/the-holy-ghost-infinite-invisibility-and-red-crit-evade-harrow/

[astral tinsel]

yeah it's just worse iron skin and worse null star

[midnight horizon]

What the hell is this lmao

[mellow nest]

Its zero star

[latent adder]

yeah if halo has 200k health and u take 10k dmg, it will reduce it to 1k dmg, you only have 500 health u die

[midnight horizon]

I'd just shieldgate gng 🥀

[mellow nest]

Put null star + halo

[latent adder]

you either full health tank with halo DR or go full shield gate

3 is just some bonus on the side iframes

[midnight horizon]

And status immunity but yk

[mellow nest]

So basically Health Conversion or Augur

[astral tinsel]

health conversion and adaptation

[mellow nest]

And putting on the Archon vitality

[gaunt wasp]

Why are dedicant eximi so dense

[midnight horizon]

Dense mfs

I lwk just don't even deal with em, they chill anyway

[mellow nest]

We'd never had figured that out man

[midnight horizon]

Seeing dedicants spawn in the mission actually relieves me cuz it means the mission hasn't bugged out yet

[mellow nest]

Slave Knight Gael really winding up here for a giga message

[velvet pulsar]

@latent adder
Does Coaction Drift affect Summoner's Wrath?

[mellow nest]

I respect it

[latent adder]

dunno? probably should

[velvet pulsar]

I still haven't found any patch saying that.
Bug section says it doesn't

[midnight horizon]

Broski shouldn't you be fighting with another human for the dark soul

[latent adder]

oh really

ive never really used summoners outside of caliban lol

[velvet pulsar]

I use it to double dip blast verglas

[latent adder]

and contagious bond stuff

[gaunt wasp]

This needs a lot of its mag(with modifier “heavy mags” has upwards of 300 rounds) to even come close to putting an Eximus Dedicant down

I’ve since added arcane merciless

Even still
12 stacks is barely enough

[gaunt wasp]

Yes, but here I am, fighting for my life against Dedicants

[midnight horizon]

As I've heard

[midnight horizon]

How much ability damage do I need to strip them completely?

That sound so sus but you know what I meant hahaha

[grave cloak]

200

[gaunt wasp]

Also, would this be considered a decent build?

[midnight horizon]

Aight

[grave cloak]

my honest reaction:

[naive tinsel]

So which braton varient is the best for the incarnon?

[gaunt wasp]

Probably prime

[naive tinsel]

ok so i did make the good choice cuz i have the prime ty

[gaunt wasp]

I still Need to get the Strun Incarnon

[grave cloak]

if you can outsource viral to somewhere else (e.g. nourish subsume or panzer vulpa), use vandal
otherwise use prime variant yeah
source: https://overframe.gg/build/461627/braton-prime/red-crit-raw-damage-braton-incarnon

[naive tinsel]

ty

[mellow nest]

7 Forma

Madman

[gaunt wasp]

The most forma something is getting out of me is 4 or 5

[mellow nest]

Ive formaed the Pandero with 7

[gaunt wasp]

Madness

[mellow nest]

Then came back and its just total garbage now it seems

Given that was 8 years ago

I also put 5 or so on the Azima, one of the worst and arguably the most disappointing gun in the game

[gaunt wasp]

As you saw, I have a Trumna prime with 4. That might change to 5 though

[mellow nest]

Its a good gun

[gaunt wasp]

Two mods are 60% fire, plus however much max rank hellfire adds

Thats a lot of fire

[mellow nest]

Its Fire, yeah

[grave cloak]

:P

[mellow nest]

🔥

[mellow nest]

Well its just wasted

[grave cloak]

eh probably
but we just had an event that gave out free forma like halloween candy
so...

[mellow nest]

I have like 5 on the Sybaris Prime and then the Dex Sybaris came out, hilariously

Its the same with the Sancti and Prime Tigris

Right after the original Tigris ofc, which was good too

[gaunt wasp]

9 forma? Why

[grave cloak]

if I have the resources, the question should be, why not? :P

[gaunt wasp]

I should probably max primed Cryo Rounds

[mellow nest]

Nah, R9 is good enough

[astral tinsel]

dex sybaris predates the prime though

[mellow nest]

You dont need max rank on any R10 mod aside Primed Continunity/Archon

[gaunt wasp]

Mines r12

[astral tinsel]

and the prime is better anyway

[mellow nest]

That one isnt optional imo

Well whatever the max rank is, I couldn't look it up rn

[mellow nest]

Rn maybe

[mellow nest]

Must have switched it up, its good that you went ahead and looked it up

Couldn't remember its been what, 10 years?

2016

[astral tinsel]

and iirc tigris prime came after sancti too

[mellow nest]

I still remember operation Gate Trash

That was the Archwing Update

[astral tinsel]

I think I skipped that one

no wait, was that the void sabotage one?

[mellow nest]

Yeah

I think you can still play those today

And do the bosses

[midnight horizon]

What's a good railjack build

High dps good survivability high speeds

Of all the moddable things in this game, railjack and necramech gotta be my least interacted with

[marsh vault]

Does anyone have any recommended builds for Excalibur umbra?

[velvet pulsar]

Shields
Shield recharge delay
Guns: barely anything
Battle mods: Shatter Burst or something like that + Seeker volley

Some mod reduces omni cost, equip that too

Having a Nautilus with Auto Omni is peak comfort

[noble ermine]

what do i need for a valkyr steel path build bc i do not know

[midnight horizon]

Ngl she don't need anything

Just a lot of strength I guess

[astral tinsel]

some duration / efficiency

[velvet pulsar]

And comfort energy like Voruna subsume.

Now u don't need efficiency

[noble ermine]

do you mean strength as in ability strength and duration bc then i know what i have to farm

[velvet pulsar]

Ability strength yes

[noble ermine]

I dont have my helminth that high yet

[velvet pulsar]

No worries
Energy has several options

[noble ermine]

for revenant i have 600 energie so i might take a few mods from that and apply it on my valkyr

[astral tinsel]

both flow and arcane battery work

[velvet pulsar]

How much max energy does valkyr prime reach with primed flow itself?

[astral tinsel]

like 640

[noble ermine]

idk I cant check rn

[astral tinsel]

base only gets 425-ish

[noble ermine]

I have that on revenant rn so yeah i´m gonna apply that on her

[velvet pulsar]

Ok so that's easily enough for purple shards

Now I should calc how much arcane battery give her at the start of a mission without any buffs

Coz conditional increase from battery doesn't contribute to purple shards

So if battery itself is giving her above 500, it's good

(without any buffs)

[astral tinsel]

525 with base armor

[noble ermine]

how do you get the other shards bc the ones i have rn is just the red, yellow and blue ones

[velvet pulsar]

Excellent

[astral tinsel]

fusion

[noble ermine]

oh oke thx

[velvet pulsar]

The rest 3 are fusion based
They get unlocked after these 3.
I forgot which vendor sells the fusion equipment

[astral tinsel]

bird

[velvet pulsar]

Aah yes

[astral tinsel]

you can also get them from (E)TA

[velvet pulsar]

That's pre built ones

[latent adder]

https://overframe.gg/build/240225/valkyr-prime/rip-and-tear-valkyr-general-use-hysteria-dps-grouping/

[noble ermine]

so I just need to get the fusion equipment and then do some stuff and get them oke

well glad I already have equilibruim on max bc I see that in every build

[noble ermine]

do these work for like every enemy in steelpath or do I need seperate ones for that

[latent adder]

Pretty much yes

Valkyr is so strong it oneshots pretty much everything except bosses

Eg lich, archon etc

[velvet pulsar]

And now every attenuation is gonna be standardized to archons

...with more health

[agile vortex]

What can I change other than maxing out mods and using forma

Also what shards would be good for ts

[grave cloak]

change dreamer's bond to... another aura with the same polarity really
do not dump duration with gauss, so take out transient fortitude
you have no need for steel fiber, carnis carapace nor redirection since he shield gates easily(more so with aegis but that's a bug exploit)
you have no need for so much strength with umbral intensify, just keep positive(or even neutral) strength will do
put power drift into an exilus slot and not into any of your 8 main mod space

[velvet pulsar]

Thx for doing this
These lvl of explanation takes a lot of ATP when I try to explain

[grave cloak]

1 yellow parkour velocity and 4 red durations are enough

[noble ermine]

Oke thx

[grave cloak]

I use this build for SP and it works perfectly fine, just haven't invested archon shards
keep high duration, gauss likes duration
archon vitality doubles the heat procs from his thermal sunder. you can keep it r0 if you like, it's used mainly for the double heat procs
and... yeah that's about it. invest a bit of efficiency and range as he spams abilities a lot, range also helps thermal sunder
your energy econ will come from taking damage during his 2 and arcane energize

[mellow nest]

Some things to consider:

• Building for Shield Gate instead of Shield Tanking, by using Augur mods
• Using Archon Vitality instead of Steel Fiber, because it works on your 3 and grants actual health
• Replacing Power Drift with anything else really, more duration would be very good for Redline
• More Duration and Range are great for Redline and Range for every other ability

[agile vortex]

👍 big thanks

[astral tinsel]

can't gauss do the permanent passive gate thing

[grave cloak]

he can indeed

I'm not really a fan of showcasing builds with bugs though since there's no learning involved

[agile vortex]

you get archon mods from khal at drifter camp right?

[grave cloak]

ye

[mellow nest]

40 Stock a piece, its a good idea to get Archon Vitality and Archon Stretch first, as they have the most use in warframes.
Archon Flow too if you dont own Primed Flow

You can technically also sell your Primed Continunity for good plat and buy Archon Continunity instead, before you put more endo into it

Its 1 mod capacity less efficient but provides another effect for frames that can use toxin dmg

[mighty flare]

What

[mellow nest]

And primed continunity is currently 55p

[agile vortex]

Does Corrosive count as toxin?

[mellow nest]

No

Gas doesn't either now as far as I'm aware

[mighty flare]

Why would you ever do this

[mellow nest]

Huh? I just elaborated on why

Man doesn't have his Primed Continunity fully ranked up and he might struggle for money

You probably didn't see it

[mighty flare]

So how does selling it and having to max archon continuity make sense

The amount of frames that actually use archon continuity aren’t even that high

[mellow nest]

It costs 5k endo for him to get archon continunity to that level

In return he can sell his primed continunity for 55p + some extra

I also mentioned what he loses in doing so

Pretty sure you can get around 75p for it at R7 actually

And yeah, its smth you CAN do if you want to or need the money. At no point was there any pushing for it, so no reason to go off over it I dont think

[austere tide]

Hello guys, what build do you guys recommend for Gauss, this is for like SP and higher level stuff

[ember condor]

Depends on what you want to build him for.

Thermal Sunder nuking or weapon platform?

[mellow nest]

You wont believe this, scroll up a bit

And yeah, what RazerBandit said. What he means is you could use the 3rd ability to room nuke or Redline to boost the weapon(s) youre using. You can also do a bit of both but it loses effectiveness

[austere tide]

Hmmm I prefer using some weapons tbh