#.nef files crash complete pc

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white raven
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hello intelligent people i need some help for a client and i got no clue how photoshop works but we put together a brand new pc and now the pc completely shutdown when opening .nef file in ps anyone who has a idea?

marsh moat
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If it does open, with which app/software does it try to open it?

white raven
shrewd waspBOT
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marsh moat
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assuming you have bridge installed (you should), does the preview thumbnail shows for that file?

marsh moat
white raven
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ps 24

marsh moat
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It will probably not be Photoshop proper

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that is bridge, and is shipped with photoshop, the two apps work together

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the app that SHOULD open a .nef is not Photoshop proper, it's called ACR (adobe Camera Raw)

white raven
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oke installing bridge atm

marsh moat
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So what I am trying to determine is if you have ACR installed (you should), if it's up to date, or if something else has happened

white raven
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opening bridge as we speak

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the preview shows in bridge

marsh moat
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locate the file in bridge, and try to visualise it, but don't open it by the menu or double clicking on it

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right click on the thumbnail and tell me what you see

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at the top
open, open with, open with Camera Raw?

white raven
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pc crashes when opening bridge for second time now 🥲

marsh moat
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That's odd!

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Assuming that both apps are legit versions? (sorry I have to ask 🙂 )

white raven
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do you just aside from everything have any idea why pc shutdown instead of like gives error

marsh moat
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also check if you're up to date

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it could be a RAM error (bad RAM) it happened to me in the past

white raven
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even on a fresh new build pc?

marsh moat
white raven
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like long story short we build this pc for the client

marsh moat
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but luckily, that meant the guarantee was running!

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I would check with one of those RAM detection software

white raven
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memtest?

marsh moat
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No idea, sorry, I am not technically literate 😂

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I know they exist, that's all

white raven
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ah then i guess i trust my own expertise on that then 😉

marsh moat
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All and all, it's not typical Photoshop behaviour. What you should have if you have an issue with PS, Br or ACR would be an error, or even a GPU issue like display glitches etc...

white raven
marsh moat
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Like the full thing

white raven
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how do i get there?

marsh moat
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If it's the case, then that could be an issue with a bugged app

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Just open Photoshop?

white raven
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yea its open

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i see start

marsh moat
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if it's open then a full screenshot will do

white raven
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and suggestions

marsh moat
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Oh OK, click on "new file"

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it's the easiest

white raven
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oke

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btw mines in dutch so i need to translate on the go but i can do that XD

marsh moat
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No need for a translation, it's not text based

white raven
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i mean all my settings are dutch

marsh moat
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no worries, I need the screenshot

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nothing else

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It could be in Flemish it would be the same to me 😉

white raven
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does this count as enough?

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cause im on phone typing this

marsh moat
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The app seems legit

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it should be OK on Photoshop's end

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I would double check if it's not something on the hardware side honestly

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It looks like the issue I got, although of course there is so many things that could go wrong

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You could also check with another RAM hungry software (Blender? whatever)

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and see if you got the same issues

white raven
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i think i just do a cinebench

marsh moat
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Bridge particularly is a Ram black hole

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You need some oomph

white raven
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anyway thanks for now atleast i know it is not a setting in Photoshop

marsh moat
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From what I see it should work corrcetly.
But .nef files are raw files from Nikon cameras, and let's say it's the latest update from Nikon, you need to make sure ACR is up to date to be able to open it.
Also Raw files are usually very, very big, hence why it may have been an issue

white raven
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like i can open some of them in windows photos but then they show some weird colours

marsh moat
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So refer to the versions from the screenshot I sent earlier and notify the client if their versions aren't up to date...

white raven
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atm im doing memtest so cant check but i respond later

marsh moat
white raven
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yeah windows store had a plugin i had to download

marsh moat
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The client may have Nikon's proprietory app installed on this PC, that may make it possible to open them)

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Well ACR (or Nikon's own app) are the only real apps that can open RAW files reliably

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A few others too but they are few and far between. As I say it's very specialised and usually come with retouching/colour correction features

white raven
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yeah i can see it showing like a preview and then refreshes and becomes clearer

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but the fact that i install bridge open it and then it crashes is not something i liked seeing tbh

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anyway i learned alot thanks for now and im patiently waiting the memtest

marsh moat
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that seems to be Nikon's own previewer

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No worries and good luck!

white raven
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timid widget
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I concur that a complete crash points to a hardware issue.

white raven
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@marsh moat hi after alot of back and forth im back here to tell you everything i found out

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so memtest seems fine and stuff but when i tried to run cinebench (a benchmark program) it first started like 30min of unzipping the download wich is extremely strange for a 3gb file and once it was downloaded it instantly crashed just like PS24 so im sorry for dragging everyone on this but its definitely a pc issue i just couldnt reproduce the issue but now i can so thanks for giving me guidance on this one much appreciated gonna fresh install windows monday on a new ssd and see if that fixed the issue have a great weekend

marsh moat
timid widget
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I’d reseat the RAM, and check all connections.

white raven
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@marsh moat it turns out the PSU wasnt heavy enough im still suprised it wasnt but with a new more power one its working properly also with cinebench 👼

marsh moat
white raven
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🤣 yeah it was a prebuild but something went wrong in the selection process i guess and it was 100 W less then it shouldve been 😅

lets just say i learned a valuable lesson and i hope i havnt wasted too much of anyone's time if i ever need help with photoshop related stuff again i let you all know