So, I will summarize what I was asking | Adobe Photoshop | Page 1

alpine trench Apr 9, 2024, 9:09 AM

#

Sorry, I think I would need to see this as a scamp (a sketch) 🙂

#

difficult to say with just a description

swift rapids Apr 9, 2024, 9:09 AM

#

Pardon?

alpine trench Apr 9, 2024, 9:10 AM

#

what ring?

swift rapids Apr 9, 2024, 9:10 AM

#

Wait, I got the scene in Blender actually

#

Hang tight for JUST a second

alpine trench Apr 9, 2024, 9:10 AM

#

I was about to tell you to test as a 3D scene, but right here and now, I am not seeing it

swift rapids Apr 9, 2024, 9:11 AM

#

Please give me a moment

alpine trench Apr 9, 2024, 9:11 AM

#

Even the scamp isn't very detailed

swift rapids Apr 9, 2024, 9:11 AM

#

This is the scene

#

This is the building

#

This is a closeup of the building

#

The torus represents the ring made by using rocket boots when sliding on the side of the building

alpine trench Apr 9, 2024, 9:12 AM

#

And what does it look like when you position the lights and render the scene?

swift rapids Apr 9, 2024, 9:12 AM

#

Here is how it rendered...

alpine trench Apr 9, 2024, 9:13 AM

#

Because honestly, I really have no clue now

swift rapids Apr 9, 2024, 9:13 AM

#

#

So this is what I was trying to draw

swift rapids Apr 9, 2024, 9:13 AM

#

alpine trench Because honestly, I really have no clue now

Is there any issue?

alpine trench Apr 9, 2024, 9:14 AM

#

Sorry, I have no idea, I really can't answer your question 🙂

#

It's above my skillset that!

swift rapids Apr 9, 2024, 9:14 AM

#

Are you sure? It was just about the ring and what it would look like photographically

alpine trench Apr 9, 2024, 9:15 AM

#

I am 100% sure

swift rapids Apr 9, 2024, 9:15 AM

#

Dang...

#

I really thought this would be simple

#

Sorry for the inconvenience

#

But if you wouldn't mind answering one more question.......?

alpine trench Apr 9, 2024, 9:16 AM

#

No problem!
It's just that I would follow what the 3D engine tells me. I would also try to photograph something similar (a least the "ring" whatever that is, and see if it affects the sky.
I was a studio photographer, that's really not the kind of things we have ever had to think about. I think it's more a question to ask in a 3D forum to be honest

swift rapids Apr 9, 2024, 9:18 AM

#

The problem with the 3D engine for me is that idk how to make rings of fire yet 😓

BUT ANYWAY SOMEWHAT RELATED BUT DIFFERENT QUESTION TIME

If I drew a ring of fire, and the sun in one scene like in the following image, would the region between them be dark?

#

The lines are just "shading"

#

The more lines, the "darker" the area is

#

If the ring and sun where RIGHT next to each other, I assume the area between would be light and desaturated. But if they are far apart, it can be darker and more saturated, right?

#

That's all. That's my last question to you!

alpine trench Apr 9, 2024, 9:21 AM

#

Generally high luminosity areas loose saturation (you can test that when you ramp up the slider of the Hue/Saturation adjustment layer. You'll need to increase the saturation, and sometimes drastically to get to the same levels

#

You might also get colour shift if you do so

swift rapids Apr 9, 2024, 9:21 AM

#

A color shift?

#

I think it would depend on the light source or the ambient lighting

#

But generally speaking, my assumption seems to be accurate... a little

#

I hope?

alpine trench Apr 9, 2024, 9:22 AM

#

Yes, I would say so

#

There will be a colour shift if you increase the saturation, not if you leave it as is

swift rapids Apr 9, 2024, 9:23 AM

#

Cool cool
I guess that's a green light for me to resume the drawing
It's at the shading stage, and I do not want it to look off in terms of lighting. I love good lighting in my pieces

#

Now I'm just drawing in black and white

#

Since it's on pencil and paper

#

So I will just have to focus on saturation

#

And contrast

alpine trench Apr 9, 2024, 9:24 AM

#

You loose contrast too in that case

swift rapids Apr 9, 2024, 9:24 AM

#

Yes

#

The areas nearer to the ring of fire that surrounds the camera's vision, and the areas near the sun will be less saturated

#

The areas that will be somewhat further will look darker, have higher contrast and be more saturated

#

I guess that would just mean they will have more pencil lines in the case of saturation and darkness

#

In any case, I should be good now...

alpine trench Apr 9, 2024, 9:25 AM

#

That seem correct for me

swift rapids Apr 9, 2024, 9:25 AM

#

Then good

#

I will get back to work, then
Thank you greatly, and please wish me luck that the piece turns out fine

alpine trench Apr 9, 2024, 9:26 AM

#

Good luck indeed!

swift rapids Apr 9, 2024, 9:26 AM

#

Much appreciated, Sandrine

alpine trench Apr 9, 2024, 9:26 AM

#

If it's a pen and paper piece, go get some extra advice on drawing forums. Here you'll find clues for Photoshop but that's not exactly what you need

swift rapids Apr 9, 2024, 9:27 AM

#

I think advice from a PHOTOGRAPHER, someone who kind of specializes in lighting and all that jazz, will be enough for me

#

That's why I came to you in the first place!

alpine trench Apr 9, 2024, 9:27 AM

#

or at least here is more a technical help, while you may find communities based on painting/drawing and they may be more astute with that kind of things

swift rapids Apr 9, 2024, 9:28 AM

#

I just wanted the technical stuff

alpine trench Apr 9, 2024, 9:28 AM

#

Well, I don't control my lighting anymore, I am just a casual photographer (street, documentary etc)

#

that's the kind of things I wouldn't really think about to be honest.

swift rapids Apr 9, 2024, 9:28 AM

#

Even then, you decide on the right spot for when the lighting is JUST right

#

I am basically imagining myself as a photographer in that scene

#

Either way, you were great help with your input

#

Truly, I am grateful

alpine trench Apr 9, 2024, 9:29 AM

#

No worries!

#

I need to scoot now. Have a great day!

#So, I will summarize what I was asking