codm-discussion-💫

[fringe gale]

Better than that

[steel quail]

Nothing

[wicked stirrup]

As val

[empty crane]

there is none unles you can consistantly hit headshots with a drh

[fringe gale]

Wow

[wicked stirrup]

[steel quail]

Thata gonna be tough

[wicked stirrup]

As val is still technically the best ar

[steel quail]

No

[empty crane]

yea well get good as they say

[fringe gale]

But drh fire rate is low

[steel quail]

I'm good

But u cannot just aim for headshots 24/7

[wicked stirrup]

Why not?, it kills faster than bp50 at every range and mobility is better too iirc

[outer wind]

the bp50 apocalypse traumatized the players making them forget about passive and flex ARs' existence

[steel quail]

We'll see

[willow wave]

Who is on the codm test server?

[steel quail]

I saw in Google the fastest killing gun is msmc

[flat dune]

Outdated
Fastest killing in MP is CX9 burst

[steel quail]

How about cx9 auto

[flat dune]

Also faster than MSMC

[vague sage]

@halcyon violet wanna play?

[wicked stirrup]

188ms to 38m

Vs

189ms to 16m, then 252ms to 35m

[halcyon violet]

Yeah

[wicked stirrup]

[halcyon violet]

Tried to join and it said room dne

[steel quail]

If the 2nd is bp50 geez

[vague sage]

Ah, rip

[wicked stirrup]

You also get better mobility as a bonus

[wicked stirrup]

2nd is bp50

1st is val

[empty crane]

but two shot potential

[steel quail]

Meta smgs
1.CX9 auto/burst
2.fennec
3.PDW57

[empty crane]

therefore meta

apparently

[steel quail]

And qq9/10

[empty crane]

according to every ranked gyy out ther

[steel quail]

Who agrees

[wicked stirrup]

I'd put qxr above pdw

[steel quail]

Who doesn't

[empty crane]

qq10 is more low key meta but not rly good enough to be spammed in high sweat lovbies tbh

[steel quail]

How about fennecs spot

[empty crane]

meh

[steel quail]

So best smg cx9?

[empty crane]

just use na45. peak meta

[steel quail]

Was

[empty crane]

is

just headshot ppl

[steel quail]

Was na45 aint meta

U could do that with any other Sniper

[empty crane]

but room clearing without being in the room

[harsh kiln]

Ohh is it.. I haven't seen it yet.

[steel quail]

Still

2 ammo and a bomb

On a Sniper

30 Damage on base

[outer wind]

Yep

[steel quail]

How's that meta

[empty crane]

the same way a twelve ammo smg is meta

not meta if u cant use it

[steel quail]

Those are different

It's burst not a bomb

That forces u to explore it

Explode

[empty crane]

hvk. use that

[steel quail]

I did

[oak hull]

what is qq10

[empty crane]

qq9 with ten mm rounds

[oak hull]

oh

[steel quail]

Qq9 with 10mm mag

[empty crane]

apparently 190ish trk

ttk*

[ripe tree]

Ngl The m13 needs another buff

It doesn't feel the same 😭

[steel quail]

And bp50 needs a nerf

[willow wave]

after 25 gold tickets I get the backpack I wanted

[ripe tree]

True

[outer wind]

What kind?

[willow wave]

the duck one lol

[ripe tree]

Mg42 era was worse

[outer wind]

Ahh thats cute

[halcyon violet]

Sorry @vague sage I'll be back in 10

[outer wind]

Noice

[willow wave]

perfect

[vague sage]

Np

[vague sage]

Ah yeah, def perfect

[steel quail]

Who agrees on this list
1.CX9
2.maybe qxr
3.pdw57
4.fennec
5.iso

[outer wind]

Where are the legs😭

[steel quail]

Wait also ot9

Ots9

[willow wave]

cx9 is best smg

I love it

[plain notch]

wait guys, any pdw attachment suggestions?

[steel quail]

Yup

[outer wind]

1. Cx9 burst/auto
2. Qxr
3. Qq10
4. Mx9
5. Ots9
6. Cordite
7. Pdw
8. Fennec
9. Ppsh
10. Tec9/chicom

-SuperGri

For reference

[outer wind]

Light stock
Mono
Ext bar
Granu/owc laser
Sleight of hand

[steel quail]

Granular grip

And red dot sight owc Extended Barrel

No mono

[plain notch]

thanks

[outer wind]

It needs mono

[steel quail]

@outer wind with owc Barrel it doesn't

And the stock that increases ads movement

[pearl grove]

Anyone has tips to become better at the game, I can't even hit 15k points in legendary 😭

[steel quail]

And sprint to fire

[outer wind]

Marksman? No need, just the mip extended is enough without making the movement slower

[steel quail]

3.93m strafe speed is still good

If u dont need a red dot just add the laser that increases hipfire and sprint to fire

[outer wind]

Yeah nope, just stick with the recommended above by Gri

[oak hull]

ar57 in codm when

[steel quail]

Nope I'll still stick with pdw57 and others

[outer wind]

Soh replaced with red dot if irons arent to your comfort

[oak hull]

what difference is there for type 63 and sks in codm

[steel quail]

The attachments I use are owc marksman Barrel ykm light stock red dot sight granular grip tape and sleight of hand if ur comfortable with the ironsight use MIP laser 5mW

@outer wind

I use these now

I use red dot not laser

[outer wind]

No sup?

[steel quail]

@outer wind doesn't need when owc Barrel is equipped

Range still decent

[outer wind]

Bruh

[steel quail]

So u use the gun?

Do

[outer wind]

Yep, got diamond

[steel quail]

Nice same

I have diamond for it

Mastered

[outer wind]

My old build was those I mentioned above but w/ steady stock

[steel quail]

What's ur username in codm

[outer wind]

Couldnt strafe enough so Light stock was the best option

[outer wind]

Im in garena, wbu?

[steel quail]

Yea light stock better

[steel quail]

Wdym

[outer wind]

What game version are you using?

[steel quail]

I dotn rlly undersand the garena stuff

@outer wind latest?

@outer wind just tell ur username in codm

[empty crane]

morning again

just closed out walking home

[steel quail]

@empty crane is artic 50 better with the caliber anmo?

Ammo

[empty crane]

no

[oak hull]

nah

[empty crane]

because hit flinch hurts

[outer wind]

Then you're def in global, so we cant add/play w/each other sadly

[steel quail]

I'm not in global

Just give ur username

I want to see it the easier way@outer wind

[outer wind]

CPT | Oats

[steel quail]

@outer wind mine is 2skullveteran

[outer wind]

Okey

[tawdry lichen]

If you dint know what garena is then you're global

[frank torrent]

Hey, guys. Was the Noir set removed from CODM for some reason? I had a concussion grenade skin but now it's gone.

[empty crane]

ghosts

ur phone is haunted

[tawdry lichen]

It's only available after 8pm now

[empty crane]

dam, triple s tier response

[steel quail]

@outer wind u don't exist in friend adding

[frank torrent]

It's literally almost ten my time. I'm in central US.

[steel quail]

@tawdry lichen are u global

[vague sage]

Cuz he's garena

[cedar mauve]

Never seen a noir set on codm, I seen the black noir on warzone

[steel quail]

@tawdry lichen

[oak hull]

@steel quail if you can search
Folth...?
Then you're garena

[vague sage]

💀

[steel quail]

@vague sage what

[frank torrent]

It was literally with the Gunzo crate in the crate store.

[vague sage]

Stop pinging

With 1 is enough lol

[empty crane]

you dont need to ping every message to have a convo lol

[steel quail]

Silence

[vague sage]

🪞

[frank torrent]

I'm just wondering if they took out the Noir set in CODM.

[oak hull]

nope

[vague sage]

Nah, it just keeps changing sets

[oak hull]

it's still there

[frank torrent]

It's not for me. I either need to reset my game or reinstall it.

[empty crane]

@wintry kettle what u posted in media, thats pretty busted, i can imagine someone deleting the mg42 model just to play with it like that lolol

[vague sage]

You will need to wait for its rerun then

[oak hull]

arctic is kinda heavy

even with all ads speed

[halcyon violet]

Sorry that ended up being way more than 10

[vague sage]

No worries

[knotty parcel]

Ffar feels weird to handle wth

[oak hull]

kinda funny how i can perform better with xpr without the sp mag

the interval per shot of xpr with sp mag is just weird

[vague sage]

Dang, good smokes on my side

Well, almost all of them

[halcyon violet]

Solid smokes

[willow wave]

Is urban tracker exile a rare skin or some?

Coz I was looking thru my skins and saw it

[vague sage]

[weary vine]

This new iso smg is really good. I used it for first time an hour ago and immediately bought the legendary skin. I don’t have any smgs in my loadouts but this weapon is so versatile. The developers did a good job with this one

[vague sage]

It's worse than sx9 😔

[white cipher]

that makes sense because you dont use other smgs

[willow wave]

Agree it’s rly good

[white cipher]

iso is weird

qq9 better

[willow wave]

Try my build

[white cipher]

no

[willow wave]

Then u just don’t wanna see how good it is 💀

[white cipher]

half my loadouts are snipers

[weary vine]

Yah i only use ARs so my view on a weapon is different than someone who uses smgs and rushes

[white cipher]

i dont have room for such a gun

Kilo141 >

[weary vine]

From perspective of an AR main, the iso is pretty dang good

[willow wave]

Bro comparing AR to close range smg

[twin pike]

iso is good for close range and close mid

[white cipher]

tf is close mid

[twin pike]

50m

[weary vine]

Yeh I put full accuracy and recoil control attachments on iso like I build my ARs and it handles well. Fun weapon

[twin pike]

anything far and it's damage will drop

[white cipher]

aint no one doing 50 meters

[weary vine]

With mono supp and revolution barrel it’s decent at range

[twin pike]

bruh

akana do u even play br ?

why would I glaze an SMG for MP ? smgs are already powerful on mp

I'm talking about in br mode

[oak hull]

ping for custom game

[twin pike]

also cordite is solid option

for mid range

[tawdry lichen]

Yes

[icy valve]

I haven’t seen u in a while 👀

[waxen kayak]

Icr meta destroyer

[tawdry lichen]

It's based on central African time iirc

[sharp turret]

Is anyone here in legendary who is also getting bot teamates?

[silent path]

Anyone else getting random ping spikes in game?

[sharp turret]

yesssss

[silent path]

I've lost wayyy to many br matches because of this

[sharp turret]

in multiplayer, im 20/9 and my teamates are 3/14 and i lose so much points

[halcyon violet]

:( My aim has been so off lately

[tawdry lichen]

U on cotroller

[sharp turret]

nah

im on mobile

[vague sage]

You can do it

[halcyon violet]

[tawdry lichen]

Dude you're getting screwed. My teammates always go like 37-15 at least they go 30-20. I haven't lost points in like 2 seasons

[sharp turret]

bro how my teammates have pay to win guns while im just using guns i got from rewards

everytime i play, i just go down

[white cipher]

pay to win guns 💀

[sharp turret]

wait do you have those guns

its like the golden thingy

[white cipher]

what golden thingy

[sharp turret]

like you know when you buy a gun with cod points

its usually has effects on the guns

[white cipher]

mythics?

[sharp turret]

ohhh yeaa

[white cipher]

you just have skill issue

[sharp turret]

bro whattt

[compact hamlet]

Akane being akane

[sharp turret]

wait Akane r u like top 500?

[white cipher]

used to

[sharp turret]

damn

[white cipher]

top 5k not top 500

[sharp turret]

ohhh

bro teach me ur ways

[white cipher]

hell no

im a bot

[sharp turret]

bru

[halcyon violet]

@vague sage streamer from last game wants to join

[vague sage]

:0

Sure

[halcyon violet]

Aight

[tawdry lichen]

Pay to win guns? There's no such thing...

[sharp turret]

bro i need sm1 to buy me some guns, my load outs r trash

[tawdry lichen]

Then you're just gonna have expensive trash

[tawdry lichen]

Pay guns aren't any better than free guns. That's just what people say instead of learning how to play

[sharp turret]

wait really. i’ve been using my team yes guns when they die and they shoot pretty good

idk it’s wtv i just gotta start cooking

[vague sage]

Nah man, the game closed itself

😭

Also, 40 kills is crazy

[halcyon violet]

Carrying me fr

[misty folio]

Hey can anyone send official test server download link pls

[halcyon violet]

I'm gonna assume you're on global and let you know it's not out yet

[misty folio]

@halcyon violet no papa joe's channel and many other channels posted a video on it.

Hello?

[tawdry lichen]

Stop being so dependent on guns. They're over rated. U probably just need a good hud

[halcyon violet]

Yeah, but it's only available for garena right now

[vague sage]

Wild lag attacked

😭

[halcyon violet]

It wasn't very effective...

[vague sage]

Thanks to my tps I was able to win some gunfights lmao

[misty folio]

@halcyon violet. How to do2nload garena

[halcyon violet]

Live in Southeast Asia

[misty folio]

I am from india

[sharp turret]

wait what’s hud

[halcyon violet]

My screen is so sweaty 😭

Half the time I tried to slide it wouldn't register

Oh wow I was the only obj player

[vague sage]

😭

[narrow plume]

Yoo

I need xp cards can someone help me

[halcyon violet]

GGs

[hasty mist]

find it hilarious how people add colosus supresor on the man o war with thermites when it doesn’t stack damage

people really are brain dead when it comes to builds

[muted lava]

your controls all the shoot button joystick it's called hud everything on your screen like map and all is hud

[tired flame]

Theres a test server out but it's for garena and for Android only

[halcyon violet]

That's... what I said

[hasty mist]

anywaysss electron tomorrow

expecting snd lobbies to be stacked again

[tired flame]

You just said there isn't one for global

[halcyon violet]

Correct

[halcyon violet]

I also said this

I didn't mention the android part because as I said in the beginning, I assumed they were global

[wintry kettle]

I had to clear the data of my actual app to have the models deleted because when I tried to delete them via in game, it just won't delete all of it and only deleted like 1 or 2mb of the resources I wanted to delete

[knotty parcel]

@halcyon violet is the background song in your clip at #codm-media from another country music artist or taylor swift

[noble locust]

@knotty parcel bro bought the skin already

[halcyon violet]

Lady Antebellum

[knotty parcel]

Bought that a long while, I mean it looks cool

[halcyon violet]

Boo taylor swift

Everything after red is terrible

[knotty parcel]

I see its sounds strangely familiar like I heard it in a radio lol

[noble locust]

yup, and I don't have any sks, so it makes it more cooler

just using other camos to make it looks different

[wintry kettle]

Ruby Serpent and Xylith SKS are pretty nice too, but battle pass skins

[halcyon violet]

They were pretty big in the 2000s-2010s

[knotty parcel]

I literally bought cause it looked cool, doesnt do any performance improvements but here we are

[knotty parcel]

Camo’s mostly hide it

[noble locust]

I have golden camo of this

but never went for diamond camo

[knotty parcel]

Huh, I guess a radio station somewhere in my town found it and added it in their playlist

[knotty parcel]

I just went with no camo’s tbh and looks cool along with some that has the same looks as it in safe house, I put it in #codm-media so you can see what I mean

Tbh, groza looks more of an aztec or sumn like that stuff

But hey it looks cool

[noble locust]

hom many credits do you even have? @knotty parcel

[knotty parcel]

Rn? 4k

[regal cave]

@vivid shard you’ve won a giveaway right? Can u explain to me how it works kinda new to this

[sterile lotus]

Halooow

[vague sage]

@halcyon violet im so sorry, I lost connection

[willow wave]

Who wanna try hella mythics

[muted lava]

more you talk, more levels you gain here, more tickets you can have in the giveaway, more chances of winning the giveaway

[outer wind]

Hello to u too

[wintry kettle]

[hot flare]

Still managing top 3 with a fractured nose,arm and leg

Pro gamer

[oak hull]

why the fractures

crash?

a fall?

[manic pawn]

all ars are diamond except bp50

don’t want to play 150 games for this one

[velvet verge]

guys

CODM messed up

The summer sale

When you log in it shows you all the summer sales but when you go to the actual summer sale the items are different

[muted lava]

not the first time

[velvet verge]

bro I feel like codm devs and who ever has been involved in releasing and making stuff has been lazy

never do anything right

[willow wave]

why would they add thermite to a shotgun

I bet they gonna sell a bunch of mythic jak12 and then after that they gonna nerf the thermite mag into the ground like the MOW Thermite

the MOW Thermite is still powerful and all but I prefer drh or bp50

[gentle depot]

Breh

[muted lava]

jack12 not my beloved

[gentle depot]

Y'all yap too much pretty much every fps game does this

[muted lava]

i just don't grasp the concept of ads'ing for long range in shotguns anything not being 1 shot feels bad

[vague sage]

What? the thermow nerf was only aoe lmao

The damage per tick remained intact

[willow wave]

@vague sage are you a global player

[vague sage]

Yes, I am

[willow wave]

What u play br or mp

[vague sage]

I main mp

Currently legendary 9800 ish

[willow wave]

Ohhh ok I want a br player

[willow wave]

Good

[silent path]

Lmao true

[willow wave]

Hello

[silent path]

Sup

[willow wave]

@muted lava are you a global player

[willow wave]

😊

I want a br player to rank up anyone?

[clever agate]

Anyone playing?

[willow wave]

Global ?

[clever agate]

Ion play br

[willow wave]

?

[wicked stirrup]

I dont think thermite jak would be good

[willow wave]

Why do this chat is dead

[willow wave]

Unless they give it a buff

[wicked stirrup]

I hope it gets a buff

[willow wave]

And broke the game again

I love being the biggest in the fam

[wicked stirrup]

Base jak is whatever, if they just add thermite alone it wouldnt do anything

[willow wave]

Yah

@wicked stirrup are you a global player

[wicked stirrup]

No

Why?

[tepid mantle]

Carry me

[willow wave]

Ok 😄😄

[willow wave]

In ?

[tepid mantle]

Cod

[willow wave]

Mp or br

[tepid mantle]

Mp

Hardpoint

[willow wave]

Rank ?

[tepid mantle]

Legendary

[willow wave]

Are you legendary?

[tepid mantle]

I just said it

[willow wave]

I mean ranked match

[vague sage]

They are

[tepid mantle]

Whats the difference between rank and ranked match?

[willow wave]

Ahhh man he is awfully awful

[willow wave]

Can we play together

[vague sage]

Uh, I can't atm

[tepid mantle]

Awfully?

[willow wave]

Later

[velvet verge]

Guys is it me or did they mess up the summer ale

Cuz the login thing don’t match the actual summer sale

[willow wave]

Anyone remembers winter war season?

[silent path]

There is no difference

[tepid mantle]

Exactly

[fair egret]

Today I get electron 👽

10cp region alt, have just enough to buy it already in Acc

4,632 cp ready

[willow wave]

Yes what about it

[oak hull]

anyone up for 1v1 in garena? imma just try out something

[woven arch]

just hit 17k

dubs

[twin pike]

?

[willow wave]

No

[twin pike]

No

[oak hull]

[left orchid]

Sn

[sharp thorn]

i got pinned 🙂

[oak hull]

pinned where, pinned ingame? pinned in discord? pinned in real life?

[sharp thorn]

in this channel

idk why ill def forget to check it later lmao

[vast wolf]

Dead channel

[old imp]

alive

[oak hull]

alive now?

[willow wave]

Is garena available in usa

[hasty mist]

anyone slide razorback build

[willow wave]

Is mac 10 good @old imp

How to enable weapon sets? Do you need to pick it in the game? Or add to load out? Will multiple sets work together?

[willow wave]

No

[tranquil light]

Loadout

[indigo pasture]

add them

[willow wave]

Ok

Thank you

[tranquil light]

Need vpn

[willow wave]

So they all work together inside different loadouts?

[brisk zenith]

yes, if u can handle the recoil but it's not preferred in rank matches

[indigo pasture]

that i actually don’t know

[willow wave]

So which SMG I should use

[sharp thorn]

cx9

[tranquil light]

Cx9

[brisk zenith]

Cx9 is meta rn

[willow wave]

why

[brisk zenith]

coz of the buffs and stats as compared to others

[willow wave]

And in br ?

[tranquil light]

Br tec9

[willow wave]

Ok

[brisk zenith]

for hip firing mac-10 and otherwise tec

[willow wave]

Ok

[tranquil light]

Cx9 is good in br too

[willow wave]

And why should I hip fire

[willow wave]

Because ads spread is less

[tranquil light]

That's how u play in br

Close ranges are mostly hip fire

[brisk zenith]

bruh, smgs are mainly used for close range in BR and the Mac-10 fire rate is greater as compared to others

[vapid karma]

is the new gun good mp

[tranquil light]

No

[brisk zenith]

ISO?? no it's trash

[willow wave]

No hell no

[vapid karma]

yeah

[paper torrent]

Best smgs are the cx 9 as of now and the pdw

[sharp thorn]

fennec > pdw

[paper torrent]

Iso is usable but needs attachment buffs

Especially bullet spread and damage

[vapid karma]

22 per hit

[paper torrent]

Damage profile from the second range as well and then it's meta

[paper torrent]

Chest damage 25*

22 first range lower body

[willow wave]

Which mode I should use tec 9

[vapid karma]

so,, i can'tt use on search and destroy

[paper torrent]

I enjoy it using the iso tbh but the bp apperantly is a smg and an ar

[paper torrent]

Always use.meta guns in search cz you spawn only once

[brisk zenith]

yeah, there are better SMGs than this one

[vapid karma]

i use only smg for snd

[willow wave]

.

[tranquil light]

🗿

[brisk zenith]

br

[tranquil light]

What mode

[brave ore]

When will the test server come to iOS ?

[paper torrent]

Cx9 and pdw are your best option

[upper vessel]

iso any good

[tranquil light]

Its already out

[willow wave]

Yes

[tranquil light]

For garena

[vapid karma]

fennec , agr 556 is good tho

[brisk zenith]

no agr isn't rn

[upper vessel]

agr 556 is ass

[paper torrent]

Agr ? You crazy bro? That's like bottom tier

[tranquil light]

Agr is ass

[willow wave]

Yes

[vapid karma]

agr is good i won 13 times with it

[tranquil light]

[sharp thorn]

ong agr is trash

[brisk zenith]

we are talking about overall performance not about an individual one

[sharp thorn]

prob cuz ur enemies suck

[tired flame]

Real

Agr is dookie

[vapid karma]

i am on garena

they sweaty as hell

[upper vessel]

what rank

[willow wave]

Cus he play with bots

[tired flame]

It was good awhile back, back in the early days but now it's dookie

[brisk zenith]

they aren't as compared to global

[paper torrent]

Still doesn't beat the fact that it's statistically bad

[tranquil light]

But the garena lb is lower than gb

[vapid karma]

lengendary my points is 12000+

[sharp thorn]

so am i

idk what point u are trying to make

[upper vessel]

drh is goated

[sharp thorn]

i agree

[tranquil light]

Fun gun to use

[tired flame]

Didn't know that it was lower than global lb

[sharp thorn]

my friend keeps pointlessly defending the agr

[tranquil light]

Top5k is much lower

[tired flame]

That doesn't mean anything

Just shows you play a lot

[sharp thorn]

garena teammates are dumber than global

[paper torrent]

^^^

[vapid karma]

i play on night time at 11am to 3 am

11pm*

[tranquil light]

Try using agr when rank resets

[brave ore]

When will the test server come to ios? (global) I've seen global android players already use it

[vapid karma]

i will use it

[tired flame]

There is no global test server

Only garena test server for android

[gentle depot]

Anyone down for ranked

[willow wave]

Which mode

[tranquil light]

Good luck

[gentle depot]

HP and SnD

[willow wave]

.

[upper vessel]

drh vs hvk

[wicked stirrup]

No

[wicked stirrup]

Drh is just an hvk that shoots slower and cant 2 tap

Slower mobility too

[foggy widget]

wheres the armory

[quartz swift]

Are we already in an era where we call drh overrated

[wicked stirrup]

Yes, been like that for a while

Ever since free leggy

[quartz swift]

I mean it deserves the free legendary not the unnecessary glazing

[paper torrent]

@quartz swift give me MG42 class pls

[wicked stirrup]

I wish there was a small caliber, an lmg and a dmr conversion

For drh

[quartz swift]

Alright

[paper torrent]

I'm so confused on wtf I gotta put besides the recoil booster and disabled think I should fmg instead right?

[wicked stirrup]

Maxim supp
31m barrel
Skeletal/s91mg stock
Fmj
13mm ammo

Drh is overrated

Yes

Yes

Bes

[steel quail]

No

[wicked stirrup]

Yes

[quartz swift]

682mm barrel
Maxim/quicksilver silencer
VDD skeletal stock
13mm anti material mag
FMJ

[steel quail]

No

[wicked stirrup]

[quartz swift]

Been my go to build since mg came out

[paper torrent]

What about the recoil and bullet spread ?

Or the fire rate actually

[quartz swift]

What recoil

[sharp thorn]

yes

[steel quail]

No

[quartz swift]

Fire rate went from 58 to 59ms

You will actually not notice a difference

[paper torrent]

Oh so it's useless?

[quartz swift]

And it's for 100% wallbang damage and literally infinite range

Barrels often do a number on fire rate

[paper torrent]

I felt like going from 101 to 107 is maybe a good difference?

[quartz swift]

Ehh, nah

[steel quail]

@wicked stirrup explain

[quartz swift]

You're still in cx-9 fire rate anyways

[wicked stirrup]

@steel quail

[steel quail]

@wicked stirrup don't act like hvk can 2 shot

[paper torrent]

And why not the biggest barrel btw ? Cz it makes up for the downsides of the 13mm ammo

[wicked stirrup]

It can, in the initial range

[steel quail]

No it can't

W/the large caliber it 3 shots

[indigo pasture]

hvk can 2 shot still

land a headshot

[quartz swift]

Your bsa is 16.2(6.5)
That means it's in passive weapon accuracy

[indigo pasture]

not like before though where it was past the first range

[steel quail]

Besides that

[sharp thorn]

thank god for headshot multiplier nerf

[quartz swift]

Wdym "besides that"

[wicked stirrup]

What's 24 x 2.1?

[quartz swift]

Can drh 2 shot already?

[sharp thorn]

to the head yea

[steel quail]

Why are u asking that

[wicked stirrup]

Who even uses hvk without large cal?

[indigo pasture]

how long is the siege mode going to be out for

[quartz swift]

Nah, remember the headshot nerf?

[wicked stirrup]

To prove that hvk can 2 tap

[quartz swift]

Only 49.5 damage with otm mag

[quartz swift]

I've not an idea

[steel quail]

U can't just aim for the head all the time at long ranges

[sharp thorn]

oh yeah

[wicked stirrup]

Its not for longer ranges

[quartz swift]

They said "limited time only" and kept adding weapons compatible with aether camo

[sharp thorn]

aye ill consider it a 2 shot 🤓

[indigo pasture]

i wanna grind aether for the gloves but i have so many guns to do 😭

[wicked stirrup]

Demn im lv50

[indigo pasture]

I don’t have anything else to grind so might as well

[paper torrent]

My build only has like minus 10 Ads time and like minus 20 % ads movement and sprint to fire delay but I feel like most lmgs have those already very down

[indigo pasture]

congrats

[steel quail]

.....

[quartz swift]

Just honestly don't bother, the gamemode is tedious af

[sharp thorn]

congrats

[quartz swift]

Okay you're going a little passive with mg42

[outer wind]

Congrats🎉

[indigo pasture]

yeah it is

[quartz swift]

Not a bad idea

[indigo pasture]

but considering i don’t play rank rn i might go for it

however i have like 57 guns to do

☠️☠️ like bro

[paper torrent]

I'm a main passive player with lmgs lol I never believed lmgs are used for close range not even medium just long range that smgs are deemed useless and ars would suffer

[steel quail]

57 guns

That's alot

[quartz swift]

You are blue :D

[sharp thorn]

na45 done?

sks done?

r9?

[indigo pasture]

let me check i actually wrote them down

[quartz swift]

Hades and bruen mk9 want to have a word

[wicked stirrup]

Like i said, 24 x 2.1 = 50.4

So you deals 50.4 dmg per headshot

50.4 x 2 = 100.8, which is greater than 100, i.e: the max hp a player can have

So yes, hvk can 2 tap close range (17.5m)

[indigo pasture]

yeah so i’m missing sks and na45 plus all shotguns ☠️

[wicked stirrup]

But that's not the point, even if it cant it would still be better than drh

[steel quail]

technically

[wicked stirrup]

Since it also got rpm advantage, as well as mobility

[wicked stirrup]

.

[indigo pasture]

and i’m missing so many smgs and ars😭

[quartz swift]

Way to balance hvk is adding something even more broken

[wicked stirrup]

The sheer amount of ppl who puts drh above hvk makes it overrated

[steel quail]

That means drh is wayyyyyyyy more used

[quartz swift]

So what

[clever agate]

Who's trynna carry me

[wicked stirrup]

Yes, drh is overrated

[steel quail]

?

[quartz swift]

People use switchblade quite a lot

And it is one of the worst smgs in the game

[steel quail]

It's overrated compared to hvk but the gun itself is well rated

[quartz swift]

So it doesn't always mean they're right when they use a certain gun or strat often

[clever agate]

Switchblade fell off

[quartz swift]

Just because the majority did it

[steel quail]

ISO is better than switchblade x9

[wicked stirrup]

If it's rated higher than what it actually is then it's overrated

[quartz swift]

I wish, but it's worse

[clever agate]

With bp50 in the game many smgs are irrelevant

[quartz swift]

At everything

[oak hull]

[steel quail]

It's overrated compared to hvk but the gun itself is well rated like I said

[wicked stirrup]

[steel quail]

@oak hull bros watching a movie 👀 👀

[oak hull]

what movie

i ain't watchin anything

[steel quail]

Discord movie

[quartz swift]

At some point BP50 would get the overkill nerfs if people insisted to use it too much

[oak hull]

but thanks for the reminder

[atomic bronze]

Ignore that guy he doesnt know what he is talking about

He is the type of dude to say ,,High rof high damage good multis"

[clever agate]

Hopefully in the next season

[quartz swift]

@atomic bronze can you decipher this?

[wicked stirrup]

Overrated is overrated, you dont compare it to other stuff

A lot of ppl puts it as the best assault rifle pre-bp50 makes it overrated

[clever agate]

But they gonna release another broken gun

The cycle will continue

[atomic bronze]

No he is just wronf

[steel quail]

Bud it technically 2 shots u can't just aim for the head all the time

[atomic bronze]

Its called a 2 shot headshot for a reason

[wicked stirrup]

Bro just ignored the whole rpm and mobility argument 🧍

[quartz swift]

It's true, but hvk has that advantage, so we're including it

[atomic bronze]

And hvk kills faster in first range

[steel quail]

I already told u bring out hvk30 then drh is well rated

[atomic bronze]

And has long competitive range

[clever agate]

Hvk would be good even without the 2 shot

[atomic bronze]

Drh is overrated too cuz it isnt only one of its kind

Em2, ak47

[steel quail]

Why does that matter

[quartz swift]

Maybe asm10 too

[wicked stirrup]

It's not, ppl put it at the top while it wasnt made it overrated

[steel quail]

Insanely underrated

[atomic bronze]

Because drh is put at no 1 and ak and em2 at b tier thats definition of hypocricy

[empty crane]

all this meta talk. just use snipers and hit your shots

[quartz swift]

Boring

[empty crane]

lol fr

[quartz swift]

Snipers been meta on day one get better material fr

[wicked stirrup]

I agree, they should nerf snipers to the ground

[clever agate]

People have no idea how broken snipers can be in respawns

[quartz swift]

Amen

[empty crane]

snipers should be 6 shot frfr

[quartz swift]

Nah just kill the mobility for good

[atomic bronze]

Whole point is

People put drh at no1
Drh not no1
Drh overrated

[steel quail]

The Mobility is already bad enough

[quartz swift]

And punish making it fast, excluding niche exemptions

[atomic bronze]

Its as simple as tbat

[atomic bronze]

💀

[wicked stirrup]

It's not

[empty crane]

[quartz swift]

Make switch time bad

They can feel the mobility for real then

[atomic bronze]

Gosh jolly 300ms ads speed for a one shot sniper thats slow

[wicked stirrup]

Remove the melee swap

[oak hull]

in what way should snipers be nerfed

[wicked stirrup]

Swap to melee and back should force you into a rechamber animation

[quartz swift]

Mainly switch time i'd make it slightly better than pkm

[empty crane]

okay satan.

[steel quail]

@atomic bronze btw how's kn bad in short range if 192ms ttk

[empty crane]

LMAO

[oak hull]

oh yea that, it makes snipers look like some very light gun

[atomic bronze]

1. That is subpar for cqc
2. Mobility will always be mid no matter how you build

[quartz swift]

There are some exemptions of course but heavy hitting snipers should be nerfed

[wicked stirrup]

That's how it is in lots of games, there's no reason you can just skip the rechamber animation with no consequence

[quartz swift]

Oh that is disgusting

[wicked stirrup]

Snipers are heavier than lmgs irl

[quartz swift]

Sub 200ms is considered subpar
Where human reaction?

[gleaming python]

Kilo bolt action can be a damage of 125 and range 114 by some customization

[oak hull]

exactly

[empty crane]

i actually misinterpreted what you meant by the first message i think lol

[gleaming python]

I use kilo bolt action most of the times

[copper finch]

Yall anyone got a load out for snd but using iso SMG?

[steel quail]

It's still a worse Sniper

[empty crane]

but itd make sense

[quartz swift]

Unfortunately no

I don't have the gun unlocked yet

[copper finch]

Sed

[empty crane]

just use 3 mobility attachments and two ads spread attachments

[gleaming python]

By comparing mobility and accuracy, yes. What do you use?

[copper finch]

I unlocked it way too soon bro

[steel quail]

I do

[quartz swift]

Do him the favors then

[copper finch]

Yes please

[quartz swift]

I don't care enough about this season's smg

[atomic bronze]

Considering most meta weapons kill <180ms idk what to say

[wicked stirrup]

Mono supp
Dominator barrel
Collapsible stock
50r drum
Optic of preference/vice grip

[steel quail]

Sniper? Mostly DLQ and I started isng hdr

[quartz swift]

Yeah, this game is really more toxic than i thought

[steel quail]

Gosh the disrespect to a new gun

[atomic bronze]

Granulated grip
Iso collapsible stock
225mm barrel
Monolithic suppressor
Vice grip

But why do you wanna use worst smg in the game

[gleaming python]

What do you use as a primary weapon?

[quartz swift]

I'll be playing next season for the new marksman

And semi auto guns might be fun

[brave ore]

I am seeing global android players using the garena test server, is it possible to do the same on ios?

[steel quail]

I switch between guns

[atomic bronze]

That means nothing

Stat bars are fake

@gleaming python actual stats are

1 tap above waist
Infinite range

With stopping power mag

[steel quail]

But in history pdw57

[atomic bronze]

Same as dlq but waaaaaay faster

[quartz swift]

These are for the devs to pretend they know better than players

[atomic bronze]

83.333ms faster

[gleaming python]

😦. Now i'm tensed. What do you mean by that?

[oak hull]

kilo bolt > dlq

[paper torrent]

Hades can frick off but Braun needs love ong

[oak hull]

[atomic bronze]

Stat bars are misinformation literally

They are completely falss and mean nothing

[quartz swift]

Hades got some significant buffs

[steel quail]

This nerf broke dlq33

[oak hull]

wait, ads speed of dlq is like 400ms?

[steel quail]

This Nerf broke DLQ33

[quartz swift]

Like they made the flinch good
And reduced bsa penalty on crossbar

[brave ore]

I am seeing global android players using the garena test server, is it possible to do the same on ios?

[atomic bronze]

On 60fps its 400ms

[quartz swift]

Essentially, chopper but good

[wicked stirrup]

AB players with their 80ms ttk at 100m:

[gleaming python]

Then how do you judge a gun? By checking what?

[steel quail]

@atomic bronze u want me to think ISO is the worst smg then prove it

[quartz swift]

The game is slow af it's justified

Always putting you on your toes

[wicked stirrup]

🔀 button in the gunsmith section

[quartz swift]

Any wrong move is lethal

[atomic bronze]

🔀

Click this button in gunsmith page

[gleaming python]

And then?

[atomic bronze]

Youll see ACTUAL stats

[steel quail]

Or just forget the stats thing and use whatever u want

[quartz swift]

It's more or less the better way to judge a gun

[atomic bronze]

How much damage a gun does, how fast it is how good its range is etc

[wicked stirrup]

Name me 1 thing iso does good

[quartz swift]

It can be a little bugged sometimes

[atomic bronze]

I did

Multiple times

[steel quail]

Short range destroyer

[atomic bronze]

Every smg does that way better

[oak hull]

iso attachments are weird

[quartz swift]

That was rus

[steel quail]

U proved it as a bad not worst

[wicked stirrup]

Cx9, fennec, and msmc exist

[atomic bronze]

By either having way faster ttk

Or way better mobility

[atomic bronze]

I did prove it as worst

By you not being able to name a worse smg

[wicked stirrup]

And so does a bunch of guns that kills quicker

[steel quail]

Pharo

[copper finch]

I got my preferences

[knotty parcel]

howdy

[steel quail]

Razorback

[quartz swift]

Okay actually wrong

[copper finch]

And since you're good at yapping, I bet you got a load out for it as well

[wicked stirrup]

Pharo got like 20m of 1 burt range lmao

[atomic bronze]

Did you know there are 2 secret types of snipers in codm. Lightweight and heavyweight. Only difference is lightweight snipers blankscope in 70% and heavyweight in 75% of ads

Until we meet again

[steel quail]

idk about mx9

[quartz swift]

Razorback sits calmly with infinite 5 shot kill

[wicked stirrup]

Rzbk can compete with assault rifles while maintaining smg mobility

[quartz swift]

And rapid fire perk allows it to 3 shot kill

[steel quail]

It's fire rate

[wicked stirrup]

Rapid fire perk:

[steel quail]

Also cbr4

[knotty parcel]

kn, em2, ak good to go for flexi role?

[quartz swift]

Cbr4 is indeed garbage

[quartz swift]

Em2 is more flex aggro

[wicked stirrup]

Better range than iso, roughly the same firerate

[steel quail]

See?

[knotty parcel]

welp I have to go aggro and passive so why not

[steel quail]

I can name worse smgs

[atomic bronze]

Pharo has
A way better ttk ( 136 vs 204 in first range(
Its competitive range is double that of iso (killing 204ms in sevond range, meanwhile iso does in 272ns)
Slightly worse mobility
Pharo also has option for an underbarrel shotgun

[knotty parcel]

mx9 is fine

[atomic bronze]

You didnt let me prove

[wicked stirrup]

See that there's no smg that's worse than iso?

[steel quail]

Cbr

Mx9

[wicked stirrup]

@steel quail

[gleaming python]

Did not understand anything🥲

[quartz swift]

I liked how iso looks honestly

[steel quail]

Maybe

[quartz swift]

Pretty smooth animations and looks just right with attachments

[knotty parcel]

dude mx9 is a better gun than that piece of garbage iso

[quartz swift]

Appreciate it being mid

[steel quail]

ISO needs a huge buff since yall think it's this bad

[wicked stirrup]

Mx9 got better ttk and mobility, as well as you can legshot without making your ttk goes doodoo

[quartz swift]

Yes, we agree

[vapid karma]

Luck? I don't believe in it

[atomic bronze]

Razorback has same first range but it kills in 172ms
Mobility is extremely similar
Competitive range on razorback is 40 meters vs 12.5 on iso and in that 40 meters it has a competitive ttk of 258ms

[wicked stirrup]

I agree

[steel quail]

why did they have to do it like that cant u just add a new good gun

[steel quail]

Tec9??????

[wicked stirrup]

1 broken gun and 1 awful gun model

[fair egret]

Hello Noobs

[knotty parcel]

no it has to be Broken or piece of garbage with the devs

[wicked stirrup]

So they can sell new mythic every other season

[steel quail]

Lolllll

[knotty parcel]

not a bit of balanced gun kinds of stuff

[wicked stirrup]

Tec 9 is arguably top 5 smg with burst conversion

[gleaming python]

Which assault rifle is best on BR?

[wicked stirrup]

Bp50

[steel quail]

Ak117 and bp50

[wicked stirrup]

Ak117 isnt even top 5

[knotty parcel]

its better than iso

[atomic bronze]

Do i even need to explaon this one?

[atomic bronze]

Bp50

[steel quail]

@atomic bronze no

[atomic bronze]

Ak117 foesnt even come close

[fair egret]

Real I’d rather use KN in br

[steel quail]

@atomic bronze what's bp50s ttk?

[atomic bronze]

Better range mobility bsa but slightly worse ttk

[knotty parcel]

eh aim assisst does its thing with it

[gleaming python]

Why is that? For damage or other stats?

[atomic bronze]

189ms

[steel quail]

@atomic bronze that's way more than hvk

[atomic bronze]

Bp50 just kills ultra fast

Ak117 ignore that it isnt meta

[atomic bronze]

No it isnt

[wicked stirrup]

Top 5 groundloot, yes, but custom is awful

[quartz swift]

In br?

[steel quail]

@atomic bronze isn't hvk 40ms?

[wicked stirrup]

No

[knotty parcel]

people just use the ak117 till then end for some reason

[atomic bronze]

Hvk is 180ms

[wicked stirrup]

Hvk is 182ms

[atomic bronze]

In mp

[steel quail]

@atomic bronze cx9?

[wicked stirrup]

181.4, but yes

[steel quail]

Burst and auto

[quartz swift]

It's for the aim assist

Otherwise -B

[steel quail]

T19 is balanced

[quartz swift]

Agreed

[wicked stirrup]

Bro just

Fire interval x (shots to kill - 1)

[quartz swift]

On release and it's post buff

[wicked stirrup]

[atomic bronze]

116 burst
174 auto

[knotty parcel]

yep, even comps still agree on it

[steel quail]

Dang

[atomic bronze]

Are you finally convinced iso is worst smg?

[knotty parcel]

I still dont know why they aint using guns like ak or em2 tho

[steel quail]

@atomic bronze let me go see

[fair egret]

I didn’t have to be convinced when I saw the irons on it

Told me right then and there I’m out

[gray depot]

Too slow for the current meta

[knotty parcel]

that enough is horrible

[knotty parcel]

in comps?

[atomic bronze]

You still didnt name a worse smg

[atomic bronze]

Slow????

[dapper atlas]

What gun should I be using in 2024?

It’s been years and I’ve been using Cordite, M4 since 2019. Iam also using outlaw

[atomic bronze]

Em2 is the fastest 3 tapper lmaooo

[fair egret]

Real

[knotty parcel]

for the comps I mean, even kith got no idea why lmao

[gray depot]

it’s complicated on what they like to use in comp

[wicked stirrup]

as val if you hit legs is a 3 tap, and has better mobility

[dapper atlas]

What gun should I be using in 2024?

It’s been years and I’ve been using Cordite, M4 since 2019. Iam also using outlaw

[fair egret]

Who’s shooting legs

[gray depot]

we’ll probably see jak12 in the coming months for comp

[quartz swift]

BP50

[wicked stirrup]

[fair egret]

[steel quail]

@atomic bronze ksp45 ans lapa

[fair egret]

I like this guy

[steel quail]

And

[dapper atlas]

Thanks

[knotty parcel]

tbh, still a better gun than iso

both guns btw

[quartz swift]

Lapa is mid, ksp is the worst burst and yet is better than iso

[steel quail]

Cap

[gray depot]

I’m still surprised the Chinese aren’t using the jak in comp rn

[quartz swift]

I am so mixed rn

[steel quail]

Oh k

[quartz swift]

My bad

[knotty parcel]

They can clear easily in isolated zones like that

[wicked stirrup]

Iso is like

13m effective range

No leg shots allowed

Mid ahh mobility

Doesnt even have good accu to make up for it

[quartz swift]

Is machine pistol better than iso

[gray depot]

I mean mp comp jak is meta in cn version of the game

[wicked stirrup]

Yes cuz it doesnt take up an entire primary slot

[gray depot]

Only reason why we’re getting a mythic jak12 anyways

[fair egret]

Kinda scared for mythic Jak

[knotty parcel]

@gray depot people sticking to what they only knew

[quartz swift]

I'm good
I've got my ass beat enough in cqb by most guns so i don't see jak-12 as an issue

Jak-12 users also can't aim

[gray depot]

Jak is not good without slugs anyways

[knotty parcel]

we might just check the chinese comp or play in chinese servers in order to know which guns are gonna be nerfed or buff lmao

[fair egret]

I mean for Alcatraz

I’m gonna get stuck

[steel quail]

Guns that need a buff and nerf in my opinion
Buffs.
ISO needs the biggest buff in existence
Pdw57 more attention
Oden the recoil
KSP45
Nerfs:
Bp50 just nerf this thing

[fair egret]

MP I’m not worried

Or isolated

[quartz swift]

Why nerf drh

[gray depot]

Drh is fine it doesn’t 2 tap head anymore

[steel quail]

So remove Drh from list

[quartz swift]

Yes

[knotty parcel]

oden is already fine to use as long as you know how to aim

[steel quail]

Other guns?

[quartz swift]

Recoil is also up to you

[quartz swift]

Amax

Total rework for that gun

[steel quail]

If they decrease the recoil atleast the horizontal it kinda annoys me

[gray depot]

Though oden should probably be 4 tap since we alr got a sks

[knotty parcel]

Im fine with it, it can already 2 shot more buff on it can make the gun broken

[steel quail]

Other guns on the list I made

[knotty parcel]

its like on the verge of being broken with only just a few buffs

[gray depot]

They should make all the up coming guns semi auto

[steel quail]

How about the other guns I put on the list

[knotty parcel]

eh good enough

[gray depot]

Nerf it make it 4 Tap unless you hit head which makes it a 2 tap

[steel quail]

That won't make it meta

That's a large nerf

[gray depot]

Or we just make the oden actually semi auto all together with a 350 ms fire interval

[steel quail]

ISO needs a rlly. Big buff atleast better than qxr

[wicked stirrup]

Why does oden deals less dmg than sks?

Sks is a 7.62 round

[steel quail]

Sks bettet

[wicked stirrup]

Oden is a 50 cal

[steel quail]

Better

[wicked stirrup]

[knotty parcel]

Yes then you can go with the recoil fix

[gray depot]

It’s technically full auto

[steel quail]

Pdw57 just buff the range a bit so it can be more balanced ISO I already said ksp45 put it atleast one of the best burst guns

[quartz swift]

Oden should be 50 damage to the legs :)))))))))))))

And stomach

[wicked stirrup]

@atomic bronze they should make oden have like 200 ms pv, but very consistent 2 tap

[oak hull]

game balancing

[wicked stirrup]

Yes, nerf the fire rate and recoil in return

[gray depot]

Though it’s suppose to be semi auto devs smoked some crack and gave these players a low skilled gun with a 2 tap chest capability

[steel quail]

Imagine if sks turns auto with 70 fire rate

Bp50 is cooked if that happens

[gray depot]

650 fire interval

[wicked stirrup]

[oak hull]

just like how ak47 is a 7.62 and so is sks, they deal diff damage

[wicked stirrup]

Ig codm isnt the most logical game out there

[oak hull]

yes

[wicked stirrup]

[oak hull]

cuz rytec should 1 shot in any body part with default ammo

[steel quail]

The bp50 body damage multiplier suckd

Sucks

[quartz swift]

@wicked stirrup would oden in your balance still be better than semi auto t19?

[gray depot]

or make oden semi auto and make it have qq9 bsa

[wicked stirrup]

Prolly, you could nuke recoil so it stays cqc only

[gray depot]

T19 semi auto fire interval kind of sucks ass

[quartz swift]

And to compensate i'd give type 19 semi some stomach multipliers

[gray depot]

make thermite mow semi auto with 2,000 ms fire interval

[quartz swift]

So that whole effective range is 73m

[wicked stirrup]