Para's House. (Goodbye)

[soft pecan]

windows has been bad since 7

[gaunt creek]

We got it for now I will follow guides as to not over tax y'all and will pester you when I think it's done

[soft pecan]

to update you disconnect

press firmware flasher on the left

detect the target with the detect button

make sure full chip erase is on and the rest of the toggles are off

select latest release

then under other options select the extra features you want like gps or something

remove the OSD(analog) or OSD(digital) depending on which you use if you want to

then load firmware online

and flash

[gaunt creek]

Sweet

On it

Deal with other options?

Acro trainer?

[soft pecan]

couldn't tell you what that does to be honest

probably some ancient forgotten mode

[gaunt creek]

So remove?

[soft pecan]

don't have to

but you can

[gaunt creek]

Any I should add?

[soft pecan]

whatever you want or need

[gaunt creek]

IDk what I want or need

[soft pecan]

well you can always reflash!

[gaunt creek]

Got it

[soft pecan]

it's very easy to guide you through betaflight since you have any amount of reading comprehension and knowledge of how use computer

[gaunt creek]

Is that sarcasm cuz I'm dumb 🥲

[soft pecan]

it's not

[gaunt creek]

Lol kept the rest as defaults and flashing now

[soft pecan]

love linux to be honest

[gaunt creek]

Same

[soft pecan]

no fucking around with drivers ever unless you buy something proprietary

[median fable]

I gotta switch to Linux

[soft pecan]

yup

close, then put the drone as flat as possible and press calibrate accelerometer like it says

[median fable]

Wait, how different is Kali Linux than normal Linux?

[soft pecan]

very

[median fable]

Figured

[soft pecan]

the whole deal with it is that it comes with all the toola

[median fable]

Cause I have a Kali Linux vm

[soft pecan]

tools

and security

it's not made to be used as a personal computer

[median fable]

Figured, it can though, it just sucks at it, I’ve watched vids and stuff via kali 😂

[gaunt creek]

So next up is hookup remote and goggles?

[soft pecan]

next is configure betaflight fully

go to the ports tab

switch the serial rx switch on the uart you soldered the receiver to, under peripherals set msp + displayport on the uart you soldered the DJI vtx to

oh and set sensor input to gps on the uart you soldered the gps to

then save and reboot

and then on the configuration tab

change the max arm angle to 180 and make sure airmode, gps and osd are on

and then change whatever else you want on the tab

[gaunt creek]

There is 6 uarts

Will figure out one sec

[soft pecan]

tx1 rx1 are uart 1

etc

[gaunt creek]

Opening drone one moment

[soft pecan]

damn

[gaunt creek]

?

[soft pecan]

looks about right

[gaunt creek]

Great the warning at top okay

[soft pecan]

yeah

vtx table is for analog

[gaunt creek]

Sweet

All steps done

[soft pecan]

and then there were more

presets tab

search elrs 250hz

apply it with proper options selected

[gaunt creek]

The fuck is proper options lol

[soft pecan]

so hd freestyle, serial and single cell values

[gaunt creek]

Sweet

Done

[soft pecan]

GPS tab

UBLOX protocl

auto configure

and enable galileo

[gaunt creek]

Done

[soft pecan]

motors tab

press motor direction is reversed

DSHOT300 and bidirectional dshot

save that

[gaunt creek]

Since deadcat?

[soft pecan]

you have a quad x

[gaunt creek]

Okayyy

Done

[soft pecan]

OSD tab

make sure you have at minimum

link quality, rssi dbm, average cell voltage, warnings and flight time

and the gps options

pick whatever else you want as well

[gaunt creek]

Oooh fun

[soft pecan]

and make sure it is set to HD in the top right

[gaunt creek]

This gonna take a bit to make pretty

[soft pecan]

oh and set the rssi alarm to -98

[gaunt creek]

So the three dots is for each profile right?

[soft pecan]

yup

you can switch between them

[gaunt creek]

Sexy

[soft pecan]

this'd be my minimum config

do you have a chromium browser installed?

[gaunt creek]

Yes

Why?

[soft pecan]

need it in a bit

because poor decisions from configurator dev team

and incomplete insecure web standards that any browser with standards refuses to implement

[gaunt creek]

Not finding flight time

[soft pecan]

it might be called something else

doing this from memory

it's one of the timers

timer 1, 2, 3

that you can set on the right

[gaunt creek]

Got

It

[soft pecan]

did your esc have am32 or bluejay/blheli_s

[gaunt creek]

Still fecking with osd

[gaunt creek]

What

Done with osd

Ready to continue

[soft pecan]

whatever we'll find out

close betaflight configurator

open this in your chromium browser https://esc-configurator.com/

that you opened as sudo

since you didn't do the giving your user permissions thing

that's totally safe

[gaunt creek]

Working on it

Done now what?

[gaunt creek]

What do here?

[soft pecan]

connect

then plug in battery

with props off

and then read settings

[gaunt creek]

Complete

[soft pecan]

what's on it

bluejay, blheli_s, am32

and what version of said firmware

[gaunt creek]

ESC 1: Q-H-30 - BLHeli_S, 16.7

[soft pecan]

sobbing

so sad

press flash all escs

[gaunt creek]

whyyy

[soft pecan]

because it should've shipped with bluejay

we shouldn't have to flash it

[gaunt creek]

PWM frequency?

[soft pecan]

48

probably?

yeah

you're not racing

48

[gaunt creek]

We're flashing now 😏

[soft pecan]

if you unplug anything right now you brick everything

so don't

[median fable]

unplugs<

[gaunt creek]

Thanks for telling this during the porocess

[soft pecan]

no problem

[gaunt creek]

Completed

[soft pecan]

okay now this is really important

bottom right there's a tune editor

you have to pick one you like

melody editor

[gaunt creek]

I don't see such a thing

[soft pecan]

reconnect and re-read then

[gaunt creek]

That worked. Thank you

We chose Amogus. What's next?

[median fable]

Not amooogus

Just kidding

😂

[soft pecan]

you

close esc-configurator

open betaflight-configurator and go to the motors tab

probably have to replug as well

[gaunt creek]

We are running out of daylight ahhh!

[soft pecan]

yeah almost done

[gaunt creek]

In betaflight

[soft pecan]

motors tab

bottom right press the danger switch

make sure motors 1, 2, 3, 4 in the picture are also 1, 2, 3, 4 in real life

and make sure they spin the right way following the picture

[gaunt creek]

One and three are rotating in the incorrect direction

[soft pecan]

epic

you made sure it's like this right

[gaunt creek]

🙂‍↕️

[soft pecan]

go back to esc-configurator

set motor 1 and 3 to reversed and write settings

then download expresslrs configurator

[gaunt creek]

Completed

[gaunt creek]

.

[soft pecan]

what receiver do you have

oh and you can unplug the battery now if the receiver is powered from just usb

[gaunt creek]

https://pyrodrone.com/collections/receivers-1/products/betafpv-elrs-nano-receiver-2-4ghz

[soft pecan]

wacky receiver to have on a 5"

the hell

select it in the configurator

as target

[gaunt creek]

Why?

[soft pecan]

small antenna

then make sure it is set to betaflight passthrough

ISM_2400 for regulatory domain

set a bind phrase which is basically a password

then just press flash

[gaunt creek]

I don't see it 😦

[gaunt creek]

🤏

[soft pecan]

i do so that's weird

nano rx

[gaunt creek]

What are the problems with a small antenna?

[soft pecan]

you have big frame

carbon block signal

[gaunt creek]

How large of a predicament is this?

[soft pecan]

not large at all

probably won't even matter

[soft pecan]

scroll to the top

when did we get on winblows smh

[soft pecan]

did you close betaflight-configurator

[gaunt creek]

We couldn't get Chromium to run as root 😦

[soft pecan]

should've just added your user to the permission groups lol

[gaunt creek]

🙂‍↕️

[soft pecan]

replug it and manually select the com port

[gaunt creek]

Do we need to open Betaflight on the Winblows PC?

[soft pecan]

no

only the elrs configurator

it says some other program is already using the serial port for betaflight

[gaunt creek]

It has been resolved. Thank you

Next?

[soft pecan]

what transmitter do you have

[gaunt creek]

?What?

[soft pecan]

you know the thing that you hold in your hands

to fly the drone

[gaunt creek]

Oh, the Xbox controller!

[soft pecan]

[gaunt creek]

Boxer Crush

[median fable]

[soft pecan]

hold SYS

go to the tools tab

open ELRS

[gaunt creek]

Completed

[gaunt creek]

Now what?

[soft pecan]

go back

go to the hardware tab

scroll to the serial port settings

select USB-VCP and set it to CLI

then go back to the home screen

plug it into your computer with the top port

and select USB Serial(VCP)

then do the same thing as you did with the receiver with the same bindprhase

but radiomaster boxer and edgetx passthrough

[gaunt creek]

Which Radiomaster is it?

[soft pecan]

2.4

same as your receiver

[gaunt creek]

Is this correct?

[soft pecan]

well you'll find out when you press flash

[gaunt creek]

😦

[soft pecan]

epic what does it say at the bottom

[soft pecan]

select it manually again i suppose

says its in use again

really feels like a winblows moment

[gaunt creek]

======== PASSTHROUGH INIT ========
Trying to initialize COM4 @ 460800

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "runpy.py", line 196, in _run_module_as_main
File "runpy.py", line 86, in _run_code

File "C:\Users\elija\AppData\Roaming\ExpressLRS Configurator\firmwares\cloud\ExpressLRS\2dd88468a753696a37e6954ab80a0dcd231e2afa\firmware\flasher.pyz_main_.py", line 3, in <module>

if __name__ == '__main__':

File "C:\Users\elija\AppData\Roaming\ExpressLRS Configurator\firmwares\cloud\ExpressLRS\2dd88468a753696a37e6954ab80a0dcd231e2afa\firmware\flasher.pyz_bootstrap_init_.py", line 253, in bootstrap

File "C:\Users\elija\AppData\Roaming\ExpressLRS Configurator\firmwares\cloud\ExpressLRS\2dd88468a753696a37e6954ab80a0dcd231e2afa\firmware\flasher.pyz_bootstrap_init_.py", line 38, in run

File "C:\Users\elija.shiv\flasher.pyz_66ff8061e3e3a2d5f68ea933881a435c770c3e2037daeda068da93c2eafab3b3\site-packages\binary_configurator.py", line 437, in main
return binary_flash.upload(options, args)
File "C:\Users\elija.shiv\flasher.pyz_66ff8061e3e3a2d5f68ea933881a435c770c3e2037daeda068da93c2eafab3b3\site-packages\binary_flash.py", line 193, in upload

return upload_esp32_etx(args)

File "C:\Users\elija.shiv\flasher.pyz_66ff8061e3e3a2d5f68ea933881a435c770c3e2037daeda068da93c2eafab3b3\site-packages\binary_flash.py", line 119, in upload_esp32_etx
ETXinitPassthrough.etx_passthrough_init(args.port, args.baud)
File "C:\Users\elija.shiv\flasher.pyz_66ff8061e3e3a2d5f68ea933881a435c770c3e2037daeda068da93c2eafab3b3\site-packages\ETXinitPassthrough.py", line 17, in etx_passthrough_init
s = serial.Serial(port=port, baudrate=requestedBaudrate,
File "C:\Users\elija.shiv\flasher.pyz_66ff8061e3e3a2d5f68ea933881a435c770c3e2037daeda068da93c2eafab3b3\site-packages\serial\serialwin32.py", line 33, in init
super(Serial, self).init(*args, **kwargs)
File "C:\Users\elija.shiv\flasher.pyz_66ff8061e3e3a2d5f68ea933881a435c770c3e2037daeda068da93c2eafab3b3\site-packages\serial\serialutil.py", line 244, in init

self.open()

File "C:\Users\elija.shiv\flasher.pyz_66ff8061e3e3a2d5f68ea933881a435c770c3e2037daeda068da93c2eafab3b3\site-packages\serial\serialwin32.py", line 64, in open
raise SerialException("could not open port {!r}: {!r}".format(self.portstr, ctypes.WinError()))
serial.serialutil.SerialException: could not open port 'COM4': FileNotFoundError(2, 'The system cannot find the file specified.', None, 2)

HELP

[soft pecan]

replug it i suppose

it's just doing goofy windows things

[gaunt creek]

trying agian back on the linux

said no fc found

the feck

[hallow oriole]

bro does NOT know how to use backticks

💀

[gaunt creek]

crying mannn

[soft pecan]

right so this time

you did open it with sudo or give your user perms

and you did select USB(VCP)

[gaunt creek]

did not work with sudo

[soft pecan]

and for this?

[gaunt creek]

did that right

[soft pecan]

oh well

just select wifi instead of edgetxpassthrough

and press build instead, make sure your settings are there

[gaunt creek]

what will that do?

[soft pecan]

make a file

that you

will have to upload over wifi

[gaunt creek]

same results tho?

[soft pecan]

yeah

once it's done building

unplug your radio

hold SYS again

open the ELRS script again

scroll to wifi and enable it

connect to the wifi ap it made

password expresslrs

go to http://10.0.0.1

update tab

upload the firmware file it made

and press update

[gaunt creek]

has anyone ever told you your amazing?

update succes

[soft pecan]

okay betaflight time

go to receiver tab

check if the throttle is the throttle

the yaw is the yaw

[soft pecan]

oh and set elrs to 250hz in here

[gaunt creek]

beta flight not connecting to remote

[soft pecan]

well you did use the same bind phrase right

is it set to crsf in the top right

[gaunt creek]

are we betaflighting the radio rn?

[soft pecan]

i don't think your radio flies

your flight controller runs betaflight

your receiver and transmit module run expresslrs

your esc runs bluejay

and your transmitter runs edgetx

[gaunt creek]

lol

oops

[gaunt creek]

it worked!

[soft pecan]

now a fun part

go to the modes tab

[gaunt creek]

dont see this step where?

[soft pecan]

the elrs lua script on your transmitter

[soft pecan]

so when you click add range on one of the modes (like arm) you flip the switch you want to assign to that on your radio

it'll then have a little yellow dot

whenever the yellow dot is under the big yellow bar

the mode will be activated

now i recommend to have at minimum

arm and flip over after crash

beeperon

air mode

gps rescue

[gaunt creek]

dont see air mode

[soft pecan]

make sure hide unused modes isn't on

and maybe you have to disable permanent airmode on the configuration tab

make sure the default with your switch is that it is on though

[gaunt creek]

done

now what

[soft pecan]

okay go fly

[gaunt creek]

its night

[soft pecan]

i thought you were in the US

smh

at least hover test it

[gaunt creek]

its not turning motors

how do

[brave moth]

send picture of setup tab

[gaunt creek]

radio not controlling drone

[brave moth]

go into gps tab and turn off the thing that wont let you arm without gps lock

wait no

failsafe tab

allow arming without fix off

[gaunt creek]

still no motor control

@brave moth @soft pecan Still no motor HALP

[soft pecan]

well did you arm it

[brave moth]

you using prearm?

[gaunt creek]

fixed now

[soft pecan]

lol

[gaunt creek]

how connect headset

last step

no video feed yet

[soft pecan]

no clue how dji works

try this or something

probably want to update them as well

okay don't switchj to o3

just follow the other steps

lol

[gaunt creek]

does headseat need to bind to remote

[soft pecan]

no

it has nothing to do with the remote

[gaunt creek]

i dont think the o4 is recieving power

[gaunt creek]

is it not suposed to steal power from the fc?

it only lights up when we hook it up with the usbc port

God i hope its not broken

[soft pecan]

what did you wire it to

@gaunt creek

[brave moth]

this plug but the o4 isnt lighting up

and now the tx wire on his reciever which is red for some reason fell off

[gaunt creek]

o4 is a plug

[soft pecan]

is there a 10v solder bridge

[brave moth]

i cant find one

[gaunt creek]

o4 gets light with usbc

[soft pecan]

is the esc vbat connected properly

plug secure

[brave moth]

fc is powering on without usb

so id assume so

[soft pecan]

what fc is it

[gaunt creek]

skystar

f405

[soft pecan]

yes which of the 5

[brave moth]

f405 hd2

https://www.skystars-rc.com/product/skystars-f405hd2-30-5x30-5mm-betaflight-inav-flight-controller/

id say we try to use vbat instead of the 10v

[soft pecan]

very simple little fc

[brave moth]

i dont like how skystars does their pad layouts

[wet fox]

hey, my battery straps go under my top plate and on top of my fc. i've been getting pretty high core temps and im worried this might be what's causing it. is there something I should do differently to fix this?
or is there not really an alternative

🍪

[brave moth]

id say we do this

[soft pecan]

what core temps

para has a multimeter

[brave moth]

he said he doesnt to me lol

[soft pecan]

does the bec get hot?

[brave moth]

no clue

where is the 10v bec

[soft pecan]

likely one of those two

[wet fox]

are u talking to me?

[soft pecan]

yes

[wet fox]

oh fc core temp on osd

get's hot

[brave moth]

fly faster

[wet fox]

and im worried it's because battery straps go over fc

it's usually when im on the ground configuring o4 settings

[soft pecan]

how hot

[wet fox]

184f

up to 200

[soft pecan]

literally zero clue what that is

[wet fox]

gimme a sec

[brave moth]

184 is 85c

[wet fox]

85-100 c

[soft pecan]

can you show a picture

[wet fox]

sure

gotta put top plate back on first tho

brb

[soft pecan]

and this is how they're supposed to be populated

[brave moth]

yeah my lazy ass would just see if powering the o4 off of vbat fixes it

[soft pecan]

it's just really worrying that usb powers it

normally that's not possible

[brave moth]

yeah its normal

it doesnt power it to the point its transmitting

[wet fox]

mine def doesn’t power on over usb

[brave moth]

just turns the LED on

[wet fox]

mine doesn’t

[soft pecan]

well yes but it shouldn't be getting 5v on the 10v pin

unless it has a power mux

but it doesn't feel like it does

[brave moth]

if its anything like the o3 itll turn the LED on and let you access the internal storage

[soft pecan]

what's with the space between the fc and esc?

[wet fox]

because i this is me holding it together

no stack nuts rn

[soft pecan]

what mcu and what utilization

[wet fox]

f722 and 39% i think

i’ll check rq

[soft pecan]

i mean fly harder i suppose

it's not going to die from 85

but it needs wind power to be cooled

[wet fox]

i was thinking about trying to wrap the straps around the whole frame

that seems like a bad idea tho right

[brave moth]

no

[wet fox]

ok that's what i thought

[brave moth]

youre meant to fly when you plug in

[wet fox]

heh

[wet fox]

then when am i meant to configure o4 settings

[brave moth]

configure faster

[soft pecan]

you let it overheat doing it

[median fable]

@gaunt creek what’s goin on?

[wet fox]

wha?

[gaunt creek]

o4 falier

[wet fox]

nah

[soft pecan]

it's fine

[wet fox]

fc toasty

ok so i shouldnt be worried about 100c?

[median fable]

Dang

[soft pecan]

that's when it gets worrying

[wet fox]

ok

so ig just unplug and take a break when that happens?

[soft pecan]

you can also just

power the o4 standalone

if that's what you want

[wet fox]

how?

[soft pecan]

i dunno just wire something up

[wet fox]

also this isn't a problem right?

[wet fox]

ok

it won't power if i plug the usb into the o4 directly tho right

[soft pecan]

wrap it up with tape, don't disturb the shielding

[wet fox]

ok

[soft pecan]

probably does

[wet fox]

hmm

when u said wire something up tho, it sounded like u were thinking about something elswe

what would i wire it to?

[wet fox]

because like idek what i would give it power from if not battery

[soft pecan]

just add another vbat wire with a gnd

little connector at the end

[wet fox]

wait but then i would plug in the battery to turn it on

which would turn on the fc

and cause the same problem right?

[soft pecan]

why would it turn on the fc

if you're adding a vbat wire to the o4

[wet fox]

doesn't powering vbat power fc?

im confused

or are u saying a seperate xt30?

[brave moth]

or just keep your settings the same

[soft pecan]

yes

[wet fox]

ooooh

ok

meh, i dont need it that bad

[soft pecan]

i mean you could even make a little pcb with some connectors on it

[wet fox]

im just trying to figure out how to get the best penetration rn and that takes some testing

[soft pecan]

or a little relay

[split lichen]

Wait is para close

[wet fox]

*closer

[soft pecan]

para is done just their 10v is dead for some reason

[brave moth]

also use electrical tape instead of zipties to hold your motor wires down

[split lichen]

What stack do they have again?

[soft pecan]

skystars f405hd2

[wet fox]

but then wont there be a yucky residue on the arms

[split lichen]

Fuckkk

[brave moth]

no

[split lichen]

I vouched for skystars :(

[wet fox]

oh ok

skystars is usually good

[split lichen]

Very

Lefmis whatchu up to

[brave moth]

i dont like how they design their fcs

[wet fox]

also are there any settings on o4 pro that help with range/penetration?

because im dropping signal sometimes

[split lichen]

Power

[wet fox]

is that def adjustable?

[soft pecan]

power, bitrate, resolution

[wet fox]

where would i adjust these tho?

i dont see them in settings

well i see resoloution in settings

but not power

also o4 no power on with direct usb :(

[soft pecan]

you might need to do fcc unlock or something

just look up an oscar liang guide

because I doubt anyone in this chat knows how DJI works lol

[brave moth]

i do

not o4 tho

[wet fox]

im in the us tho

[soft pecan]

even more reason

[wet fox]

shouldnt it ship with fcc unlock already?

[brave moth]

on o3 you kinda just put channels on auto and bandwith to max so you piss everyone else flying near you off

[wet fox]

since fcc region

i did ham unlock

also is leaving power on auto a bad idea

[brave moth]

except for the unlocks theres nothing you can really do softwarewise

on the o4?

the power part

aaand paras o4 works off vbat

[wet fox]

ok looks like ham unlock is the same as fcc unlock

so im good

yea it looks like transmit power i could choose 1200mW or set it to auto

any reason to lock it at high power?

my main worry is that it owuldnt switch to high power fast enough if im on auto

and that it would overheat faster and reduce flight time if i lock it to 1200mW

thoughts?

also any advice for what channel to use on manual mode?

[brave moth]

uh

[wet fox]

oscar liang says to use manual mode but doesnt say how to choose a channel

[brave moth]

flight time youll loose a few milliseconds

[wet fox]

so i should lock it at 1200mW

oh also it wont overheat bc low power mode

great

[brave moth]

youll be completly fine at locked max yeah

[wet fox]

i'll lock it at 1200mW

oh wait this is sick, i can see interference and choose a channel

ok that makes sense

sorry for dumb questions yall

and should i use focus mode?

[brave moth]

idk what does that do again

[wet fox]

it "prioritizes focus in the center of the screen while allowing for lower resolution at the edges"

all the reviews i can see are from the v2's

[brave moth]

might be good for long range

[hallow oriole]

Everyone i was watching on yt with walksnail used it, i think im gonna start using it. Itll just reduce breakup in the center and increase it on the edges

[soft pecan]

works pretty well to be honest

[wet fox]

ok cool

weird that there no setting to leave it on but i'll leave it on auto

im assuming it doesn't affect onboard recording?

also still unclear why onboard recording cuts out when goggles lose connection

[gaunt creek]

Me slow food fixed it

Cut sum wires

Re-route others

And some Shinanagins

And solder solder solder

@soft pecan @brave moth tommorow we fly!

[soft pecan]

better not have made a mess smh

[brave moth]

didnt see the soldering but it cant be thaat bad

works tho

all bound n shi too

even depinned the connector instead of just cutting it like i do on all of my o3s cause im lazy

[wet fox]

make sure to record and send footage!

[brave moth]

cant wait for the repairs to start tomorrow

[soft pecan]

quad setup guide above by the way

literally all of it

written down

[hallow oriole]

As if people would read a discord thread if they cant follow a rotor builds guide

[median fable]

Yessssss

[gaunt creek]

Made smoke at the capacitor I believe

And shorted gn

🥲

If I saw some smoke does that mean something is permanently ruined?

[soft pecan]

probably

you didn't check your joints?...

this do be why I like diagnosing first

then acting

[gaunt creek]

I did I think it was the capacitor somehow

I believe the o4 was completely unaffected

[soft pecan]

can you show a proper picture

of the relevant parts

[soft pecan]

well I meant with the whole 10v not working

[gaunt creek]

I got to rip it all apart again and it's to late to do that now everything was all working all at once for a short bit then boom 💥

Gn for now

Big day for me tomorrow but I'll try try again asap

I just finished putting it back together 🥲

[gaunt creek]

Yeah diagnostic stuffs sounds like a good idea

[soft pecan]

order a multimeter

Some chinesium one from Kaiweets or something

[gaunt creek]

Alrighty will do gn thanks for your efforts

One day I'll fly 🪰

[wet fox]

is there any way to get dji transmit power on the osd?

also does this mean that the telemetry power is fixed at 10mw?

[wet fox]

let’s say an idiot crashed in fine dirt and now all their motors are crunchy

how do they fix it?

[wet fox]

this is where i’m at so far. cleaned with gum, water, and toothbrush

should i just give up and replace it

[wet fox]

@wispy nest are these ok to fly like this

[hot bear]

🍪

[wet fox]

is that a yes lol

[hot bear]

This is a cookie

[hot bear]

You can still open it up before you try to replace it completely

[wet fox]

i did

[hot bear]

Look if there's some larger chunk you can see and try to get it out

[wet fox]

and tried to clean it with gum, water, and toothbrush

[hot bear]

Had a small stone in my motor once

[wet fox]

didnt see anything after cleaning

[hot bear]

Had to manually guide it out

[heavy panther]

wow we are at 7.6k?

damn

[midnight dirge]

Since wh- holy shit we are

[gaunt creek]

My work got cancelled for lightning storm ready to diagnose @soft pecan?

[soft pecan]

i suppose

keep eye on the tornado watch

[gaunt creek]

Mr slow food told me you would have spent a bunch of time diagnosing and that I should just solder 😨 its all his fault! (Jk) i t was mine I should have listened to you! Please help me fix my errors🙏

[soft pecan]

the reason I said that the 10v shouldn't have 5v going on it in most FC's

is because either you'd need to have a power mux or similar

[gaunt creek]

Those sound like words

[soft pecan]

so that the 10v doesn't go on the 5v line

but that could also indicate that's broken

so whatever

Show the soldering that smoked

[gaunt creek]

Omw Home

And I will take it apart after I take a tick shower

I will do whatever you say and nothing else 🫡

[brave moth]

why exactly do you think there was 5v on the 10v line

[soft pecan]

they said it powers on when they plug in the USB into the FC and not with the battery

[brave moth]

it turns on when he plugs usb into the o4

not the fc

[soft pecan]

oh

well that would've been a nice detail to know

[brave moth]

thats why i said its normal

[soft pecan]

that's why I thought you were crazy

[brave moth]

so my guess is the 10v bec was just dead

or a trace that goes to the connector was broken

[sacred ember]

I was told there were supposed to be puppy girl memes here

[soft pecan]

and it'd be nice to diagnose so we can get both a replacement and know what to do next

[brave moth]

well were gonna need pictures first

[gaunt creek]

There should be

[gaunt creek]

Showering then you guys have me for the whole day

@buoyant rose @hallow oriole show us puppy girl stuff quick

[buoyant rose]

what

[gaunt creek]

Many people have made requests

[hot bear]

Which requests

[gaunt creek]

Puppy girls

[gaunt creek]

@sacred ember here @hallow oriole @kirby people

@soft pecan @brave moth starting teardown now

[buoyant rose]

why?

[gaunt creek]

I shorted the quad

[gaunt creek]

Thanks for the puppy girl stuffs I'm sure when they return they will be satisfied

[soft pecan]

pictures

or vc again smh

[gaunt creek]

opening

[gaunt creek]

will piture asap

[buoyant rose]

you should join us

[gaunt creek]

sparked 3 times without bat!

[soft pecan]

just take off the top plate and a picture

why are you plugging it in again

what the fuck

[soft pecan]

i would rather die to be honest if this is what they're having para do

[gaunt creek]

I'm not!

It sparked without power somehow

I swear

[soft pecan]

closer up picture para

especially where the cap is

[gaunt creek]

Getting to cap now

[soft pecan]

these pictures aren't great but

are you able to unplug the FC from the ESC and move it to the side to somewhere it won't be shorting?

or would that mess up the wires

[gaunt creek]

Disconected the fc

Still opening

Disconnect o4 except the red wire?

[split lichen]

God

[gaunt creek]

lol

[soft pecan]

sure

did you not solder the ground as well?

also where did it spark?

[hot bear]

I had my fc spark multiple times already

I had my fc spark multiple times already

Still alive somehow

[soft pecan]

turn on the damn lights para

i can not see shit

[gaunt creek]

Wire to positve

[solemn cairn]

para - "is it legal to take a picture with flash on?"

[soft pecan]

what side is the white stripe on

[gaunt creek]

Correct side

Negative

[soft pecan]

i suppose you just shorted it to something since it has no tape or heatshrink

and clearly this got hot as well

[gaunt creek]

This means means only cap is ruined prolly?

[soft pecan]

sometimes a messed up cap can explode an entire esc

so this doesn't say anything

[buoyant rose]

did it short on the carbon?

[soft pecan]

probably

[gaunt creek]

I awate your commands

[hot bear]

Send me 10000 dollar now

[soft pecan]

make sure there's no shorts visible

[buoyant rose]

can i also have 12,000$

[soft pecan]

anywhere

make sure the FC can't be shorter

shorted

and try it with the smoke stopper

there's not much else to do without a multimeter

[solemn cairn]

the cap shorted out on the carbon

[primal cape]

(going to join the vc, no mic, just stalking and learning)

[soft pecan]

para died I think

[gaunt creek]

i want too

[soft pecan]

so what are the results

[gaunt creek]

cap shorted on frame

i beleave nothing else

[soft pecan]

from doing this...

[solemn cairn]

the cap was bent down into the channel at the back of the frame and the cap leads were resting on the carbon

and one blew like a fuse lol

[gaunt creek]

so reconnect everything and try it with stopper

[soft pecan]

no

you reconnect nothing

and try it with the smoke stopper

basically exactly what was written down

[gaunt creek]

even with capasoter not fixed

[solemn cairn]

you gotta fix the cap first

[gaunt creek]

basically recreate problem to see if correct

[soft pecan]

figure out if the esc is fucked first

[gaunt creek]

how do?

[soft pecan]

before you spend time removing the capacitor that isn't connected anymore anyways

[solemn cairn]

why would the esc be bad?

[soft pecan]

that's what messed up caps can do

diwhy has multiple pictures of a shorted cap and then the esc melting

[solemn cairn]

the cap just shorted out on the frame

[soft pecan]

or even the entire esc exploding from it

[solemn cairn]

the cap itself isnt shorted

[gaunt creek]

yeah just the wire is burnt and towrn

[soft pecan]

i can see that???

sobbing

[solemn cairn]

how would that damage the esc?

[soft pecan]

I don't know how that happens or how it works, just that it has happened before

and I don't see the harm in seeing if it still works and beeps all happily before moving on

a harmless test

[gaunt creek]

succeses

esc worked

[soft pecan]

amazing

[soft pecan]

i wonder if it still works

[hot bear]

Connect it reversed and see if it explodes

[wet fox]

do we think this is ok to fly?

[gaunt creek]

Not my best work

[radiant spindle]

you should gety some shrink tubing

[gaunt creek]

Don't have

[radiant spindle]

you should get

[soft pecan]

well i wouldn't have actually kept using that thing

lol

[wet fox]

or do i need to use my only spare motor lol

[gaunt creek]

What could go wrong

[idle fractal]

that looks so good

wanna do mine?

[hallow oriole]

Did the cap short with or without a battery plugged in

Its much more likely to have survived if there was a battery plugged in

[wet fox]

@soft pecan thoughts ?

[heavy panther]

Oh god para, what did you do

[soft pecan]

need to get the nasty out

can't be grinding up those magnets

[idle fractal]

emilia i think your wrong

[soft pecan]

i think you won't last long

[tropic wyvern]

[idle fractal]

in bed?

[tropic wyvern]

crazy

[soft pecan]

unmuted with how trolly and gross you act

[idle fractal]

dude you just did a sexuall joke

what the flerb

[soft pecan]

in literally what way other than your 14 year old imagination is that a sexual joke

[idle fractal]

what way did you mean then you mature sole

[soft pecan]

unmuted, from what generally happens when you come in the text chat

[idle fractal]

i feel like you cant take critique

[tropic wyvern]

emilia did u forget ur monring coffe again

[soft pecan]

I like to think I am pretty good at taking critique

[idle fractal]

i gave up trolling like a couple of days ago dawg

[idle fractal]

i dont thinks so

lwk

[soft pecan]

what will happen when they fire up a motor that is filled with tiny little grindy sands attached to the magnets

[gaunt creek]

I think your the best Emilia

[idle fractal]

well have to find out

[soft pecan]

many people already have

that is why we can say that it is a bad idea

[idle fractal]

it might damage the motor a little but itl just leave when flying

[soft pecan]

and damaging the motor instead of not damaging the motor is not favorable?

[tropic wyvern]

[idle fractal]

im just saying little damage = no damage

[mighty plinth]

slides proffesional ragebait and emilia proffesional at being offended

by slides ragebait

[idle fractal]

im not ragebaiting you doobie

[tropic wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-ragebait-this-guy-iron-man-tony-stark-gif-3966857531535969686

[soft pecan]

and I am not offended

[idle fractal]

really

[gaunt creek]

Guys stop fighting I lost a screw 🥺

[idle fractal]

is that so

[tropic wyvern]

WOAH

[idle fractal]

HEY

[tropic wyvern]

@mighty plinth what was that

[gaunt creek]

I FOUND THE SCREW

Wooiooooo

[mighty plinth]

uhhh canada

[idle fractal]

emilia did you just give up

[solemn cairn]

down boy

[idle fractal]

or are you trying to get me banned for slight critique

[soft pecan]

critique is meant to be constructive and careful which you haven't tried either of

saying someone is wrong about something that can be proven is not critique

[idle fractal]

i just siad that i think you were wrong

is that so wrong

[soft pecan]

don't think anyone said that

[mighty plinth]

the ragebait is insane

[idle fractal]

its not ragebait

[mighty plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/kinoplex-steak-allow-me-to-explain-the-guy-above-me-is-insane-talking-gif-24312956

[soft pecan]

i think most people have some preconceived notions of what happens when you come in text chat

[idle fractal]

okay

[mighty plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/goobysart-speech-bubble-boykisser-mauzymice-anti-furry-gif-6769248524556738224

[mighty plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/dsm-don't-snake-me-sin-sinology-gif-11059246567605382642

[hot bear]

Wutköder

[tropic wyvern]

what?

[hot bear]

That question mark also wutköder

[tropic wyvern]

Rage bait

lmao

[idle fractal]

you actually so goofy if you think im rage baiting

[hot bear]

Was für ein gigantischer wutköder

[idle fractal]

who are you fam

im just saying what i think is correct, and others also think so

get over yourself

[wet fox]

i tried

i don’t see anything else in there

i used water, toothbrush, and gum

[soft pecan]

well if it's not going to get better all you can do is just try to fly it

[wet fox]

anything else i should try

[soft pecan]

order some backup motors and hopefully not need them

[soft pecan]

well if you can't see what you are trying to flush out of it it's going to be hard

[wet fox]

you don’t think it’s gonna die mid flight tho?

[wet fox]

ya

just worried i split a bearing

[wet fox]

prob not worth replacing right?

[soft pecan]

not on a freestyle or race quad no

if it was something like an LR quad then you probably should consider it

[deft ore]

Can i still be kirby?

[soft pecan]

Gotten it back together yet?

[gaunt creek]

yup betaFLIGHTING WITH BENRY FIRST

oops caps

srry

[soft pecan]

what's wrong with betaflight lol

[solemn cairn]

arm on aux 5 lol

[soft pecan]

bruh

probably should've mentioned that

[gaunt creek]

my modes

[soft pecan]

you said it armed at some point though

i am surprised it let you on aux 5

[gaunt creek]

@solemn cairn trying to help me "I need a drink"

[hot bear]

Beer without alcohol tastes better than beer with

[gaunt creek]

Sometimes it did

[hallow oriole]

Bf doesnt care what aux your arm is at and elrs doesn't know what channel actually does what

Itll always let you arm with any channel in the modes tab

[soft pecan]

https://www.expresslrs.org/software/switch-config/#why-do-you-keep-saying-put-arm-on-aux1

here you go

[hallow oriole]

well yeah obviously it should be on aux 1

[soft pecan]

explains why it was unstable for them and why i am surprised it worked as well as it did

[hallow oriole]

but it will let you use any of them

like theres nothing that would prevent you from using any other aux channel

you just lose performance and safety features

[soft pecan]

you lose a significant amount of stability that in a lot of cases does not let you arm unless you keep trying

[hallow oriole]

Why? If aux 5 switch is flipped, elrs will update that on the rx side, and then bf will use aux 5 to arm the quad same as it would with aux 1

[soft pecan]

read the dang link

i linked it for a reason

[hallow oriole]

I have. There is nothing in there that says it won't work. Only that you shouldn't do it, which is true.

[soft pecan]

it explains the why of this

[hallow oriole]

I didn't see it

[soft pecan]

why the o4 be open

[brave moth]

speedybee frame side plates

they inject themselves into the o4

you need to take it apart to attach them

[soft pecan]

that's so strange

[brave moth]

also skystars switched the tx and rx so thats why osd doesnt work

[brave moth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1258876238144082001/1355222066156277940/mario5.gif

[soft pecan]

getting kind of tired of skystars

[gaunt creek]

I agree

I'm in pain

[brave moth]

bmi270, no 10v, non standardized plug for a standardized cable

[soft pecan]

switched tx/rx

@wispy nest what is with this thing

also the bmi270 isn't really that big of a deal especially on an F405

the rest is kind of wacky though

[brave moth]

actually looks like its just the cable thats pinned wrong somehow

[wispy nest]

it's one of their older products still found in some stores

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[brave moth]

wait waht

[wispy nest]

they're up to HD4 now IIRC

[brave moth]

the fuckin

the plug on the fc is upside down???

[wispy nest]

the HD4 has an ICM42688P and the correct DJI connector

[brave moth]

what

oh

ok so

the yellow is going to 10v

@soft pecan the 10v works

the plug just puts the 10v into the sbus

so thats great

[soft pecan]

see why i wanted to diagnose

[brave moth]

diagnosis: skystars is stupid

[soft pecan]

diagnosis para should have a multimeter smh

[brave moth]

just gonna remove the entire plug

and solder to the fc

cannot be bothered to deal with this shit

[wet fox]

so should i use my spare or just send it

[wet fox]

i’m not clear on whether you mean don’t replace motor or don’t replace bearings

[hallow oriole]

i dont think replacing bearings is worth it on any of the motors this size. she said its not worth replacing on a freestyle build, but the motor would be worth replacing if it was a long range build

[wet fox]

oooh

ig just cause like, worst case if the motor dies i can prob retrieve it?

[wet fox]

a tad worried about blowing a fet tho

[hallow oriole]

yeah

[gaunt creek]

@brave moth says i can fly a 7 inch indoors

should i trust him?

[brave moth]

#🧾shopping-advice message not this shit again 😭

[hallow oriole]

can confirm

[brave moth]

just to clarify: i said if you are good enough you can fly a 5" like you can fly a 2.5"

and if you are good enough you can probably fly a 7" indoors too

[queen monolith]

Yeah I'm looking at that link, seems like they totally said that

[brave moth]

not that you should

[hallow oriole]

fpv or LOS

[brave moth]

both

[hallow oriole]

LOS is really not as hard as people would think. Still maybe not something you should do but eh I've test hovered 7" quads indoors. Would I tell someone new that they could do that? No.

Fpv i feel like would be extremely difficult though

[brave moth]

oh my god

ive had this exact convo

half a year ago

i didnt say he should

[hallow oriole]

lmfao i read part of your convo from earlier

i know

[brave moth]

ok good

[hallow oriole]

im not doggin on you lmao

if anything im on your side

[brave moth]

thank you

[hallow oriole]

np lol

[brave moth]

we were just talking about where you could fly a 2.5"; 3.5"; and a 5"

so i said realistically if you have a 3.5 you can fly it in the same spaces as a 2.5" if you just fly more carefully

[hallow oriole]

yeah its just always a question of could vs should

something that always irritates me is that people try to categorize things into two categories:

"will this damage my lipo or not?" everything damages lipos. its just how much will it damage your lipo. sitting there doing nothing its being damaged slowly.

"is it dangerous to fly this inside?" its dangerous to fly anything anywhere, its just a matter of how dangerous. a 5" outside is dangerous, and a 5" inside is more dangerous. you just have to decide if it's worth the risk based on your skill level and reward.

[cloud seal]

it's somehow hard for people to have common sense

yes the 150mph bit of plastic may damage your walls

(loose calculations from 10000 rpm to prop tip speed)

[hallow oriole]

you could be looking at 20-30k rpm

much much faster than 150mph then lol

[cloud seal]

well good thing its linear

450mph tip speed

[hallow oriole]

im assuming your circumference calculations were right lol idk im not checking em

yeah lol

[gaunt creek]

Is there a way for people to see the footage on a phone or computer as I'm flying?

[shadow bolt]

depends on the goggles

sometimes yes

[gaunt creek]

Goggles 3

Dji

[radiant spindle]

cant you do that through dji's app or smthing

[brave moth]

pretty sure you can

dji fly app

on the o3 system you need to plug your phone into the goggles but im not sure about goggles 3 + o4

should be

[gaunt creek]

What is rssi dbm?