(Edited) Help with drone stopping all the motors after it just "hops" off the ground

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@hushed onyx helped me setup a angled flight mode and beeping
i have been flipping the switch but no beeping has happened.
could you axplain how and when each of these turn on and at what angled mode is.
thanks

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Angle mode is not acro

The drone levels itself

And for beeping to occur, you need a battery plugged in if you don't have an additional beeper

[slim sky]

Angle/beeper turns on/off, depending on the position of your aux 2 switch

[hushed onyx]

In Configuration tab there are options regarding the beeper

you want RX_SET and RX_LOSS enabled in both sections (beeper and dshot beacon)

As for angle mode:

Acro (the default state):
Roll/Pitch controls how fast the drone rotates.

Angle:
Roll/Pitch controls the angle of the drone, relative to level (as defined by accelerometer calibration)
Maximum angle can be set somewhere in PID Tuning tab and its sub-tabs

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ok so when is angled mode turned on or off?

[hushed onyx]

this basically says: "When AUX2 is between 1400 and 1600, turn Angle ON. Otherwise, leave Angle as it is (OFF)."

[slim sky]

Angle mode is enabled when your aux 2 is in the middle position

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(Edited) Help with drone stopping all the motors after it just "hops" off the ground

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Yo GGManiack, i now have a trouble where when i start pushing up the throttle and when it just starts going off the ground it just stops spinning all motors and lands back down

help

all the mototrs are spinning in it's intended way

@hushed onyx

[hushed onyx]

sounds like runaway protection

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ok

[hushed onyx]

which means that one of these is wrong:

Motor order
Motor directions
Board alignment

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board alignment its facing the other way

how do i fix that?

[hushed onyx]

wdym facing the other way

Point the drone's camera at the screen
And then click Reset Z axis

that way the yaw should realign

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like the little arrow on the board is facing to the back of the drone

[hushed onyx]

ah, I thougth you were verifying it in Setup tab

where the 3d model of the drone is

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nah

i meant irl

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ill try that

now

[hushed onyx]

nono

that's irrelevant for now then

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oh ok

[hushed onyx]

if you know the board is 180° wrong

then let's do that first

in Configuration tab, you'll find Board Alignment

there is a value called Yaw Degrees

add 180 to whatever is in there

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ok

[hushed onyx]

so if there was 0, it would be 180.
If there was 90, it would be 270

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ok done, it was 0 so i added 180 and then saved and reeboted

[hushed onyx]

now in Setup tab

there is a 3d model of the drone

which rotates in the same directions as the real thing

so if you yaw the drone by 90°, the 3d drone should also yaw by 90° (ignore absolute yaw, the drone has no idea where your LCD is, you can click Reset Z to zero it)

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yep

[hushed onyx]

check all of the axis

it should perfectly copy the real drone

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the when i til the drone toward my laptop screen the drone tilts toward me, is that right?

[hushed onyx]

depends on the yaw..

you can see the arrow on the drone

arrow points forward on the drone

okay, quick trick

set the drone so that its camera is pointing at ("seeing") the screen

and then click Reset Z

now both drones should be pointing in the same direction

and they should move exactly identically

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yes now they move exactly identically

[hushed onyx]

then that's board alignment sorted out

take a photo of the drone, with the props on

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okie

[hushed onyx]

ideally from a top-back angle

like if you were a camera in a racing game behind a car😄

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okie

ill just load up discord on my phone and send a picture here

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tag me when you do

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now

its downloaing

@hushed onyx

[hushed onyx]

send a screenshot of BF Motors tab

[slim sky]

Is this your final build?

The motor wires dangling around are a bit sketchy

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around the motors?

[slim sky]

Shorter, directly to the esc

[hushed onyx]

well, this could be fixed with some tape, for the most part

or a ziptie or two

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yeah ill find some tape or smn'

[hushed onyx]

the motor direction in BF is wrong tho

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when i flew i t i checked and they were correct

[hushed onyx]

they're wrong.

What's in BF doesn't align with reality.

Based on your props.

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oh ok

[hushed onyx]

First, a sanity check
On all of your props, the top edge should be blunt, and the bottom edge should be sharp.

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can you help me fixing them please?

[slim sky]

I'm still worried that the sharp edges could cut the wire insulation, which leads to the motor wire touching the conductive frame...

[hushed onyx]

yeahhh in an impact that could happen

but I've seen worse atrocities

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ill wrap the whole thing in electrical tape, will that e enough?

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?

[hushed onyx]

@gilded socket I'm primarily worried about the front-right prop btw

but it might be just lighting..

[hushed onyx]

re: ^

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just the top front right one needs to go the other way

ive done that

now

[hushed onyx]

ok

so it was upside down

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why, is it the orientation?

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yes

[hushed onyx]

btw - do you know what you get when you flip a CW prop upside down?

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nope

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.

[hushed onyx]

what happens to the prop

you have a CW prop

and you flip it upside down

I need you to think xD

to chase out a common misconception 😄

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does it do reverse thrust?

[hushed onyx]

nope

to get reverse thrust, it would have to become a CCW prop

which it can't become

when you flip a CW prop upside down

you get a really shitty CW prop

that is better at making noise than thrust

[slim sky]

Basically means you need to swap the prop

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lmao

i see

ok

got it

[hushed onyx]

what?

haven't gotten to swap prop stuff yet xD

send a new pic of the drone

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🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[hushed onyx]

so that I can sanity check all of the props 😄

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okie

[slim sky]

Ah fuck I was stupid

For some reason I thought an upside down cw prop would get a ccw

[hushed onyx]

haha yup that's the common misconception

upside down CW = still CW, just bad

[slim sky]

Idk I think I flipped a prop once and somehow I felt like it went from cw to ccw

[hushed onyx]

it will have very little thrust

grab a spare prop 😄

and flip it upside down on the table

see how the shape changes

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here

[hushed onyx]

thank you.. for all of the... 15 pixels in total

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lol

should i try take another photo

?

[hushed onyx]

yeah so basically you have it set up for reverse prop direction

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ok, how do i fix that?

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isn't that correct?

[hushed onyx]

in BF meanwhile, you have htis

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oh

thats what it is

[hushed onyx]

see how all of the arrows are opposite?

compared to the real drone?

tick "Motor direction is reversed"

and then save

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yep

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done, that looks more right

[hushed onyx]

okay, now, take the props off

on the right side of Motors tab, you can spin up each motor

after you tick the "I'm not an idiot and I took off the props" thingy

I am going to throw this keyboard against the wall really really hard if it misses one more keystroke

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what if you are a idiot ??? xD

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Then keep the props on and lose your fingers

[hushed onyx]

Okay, tick the "Betaflight team and whoever is helping you is not responsible for harm you cause to yourself with your idiocy, but please take off the props anyway" checkbox @gilded socket

then, spin up each motor INDIVIDUALLY

you need battery for this obviously

you want to check that when you spin up motor #1, motor #1 is the one that physically spins up (refer to the diagram to see the motor positions)

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ok

[hushed onyx]

and that it spins in the correct direction

do that for all motors

[slim sky]

-# I have to admit, I tested motor direction with props on on a 65mm whoop already

[hushed onyx]

okay a whoop is a very different story

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wtf, i put the batterry in and i got disconnected

[hushed onyx]

fun

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🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[slim sky]

I also did it on a 5" more or less, but it was accidentally while I was flying

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dw it worked

wait which thing do i click on, reorder mototrs or the direction?

[hushed onyx]

I have only managed to take a chunk of flesh off of my finger while loosening props
a friend of mine accidentally full throttled his drone right as he was bending over to pick it up... by a prop.
he has permanent scars on his hand 🙂

[hushed onyx]

neither

on the right side of Motors tab, there are the sliders

and there is the checkbox under them

[slim sky]

Prearm saves fingers...

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yeah they're in the correct position

[hushed onyx]

and all spin in the correct directions?

[slim sky]

I also have scars because of it, could be permanent too

Was 2-3 months ago

[hushed onyx]

oof

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yes

[hushed onyx]

heal well 🙂 @slim sky

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@hushed onyx

[hushed onyx]

@gilded socket well, assuming you didn't lie to me anywhere, it should be flyable

[slim sky]

Well, at least I can show people now how serious they should take safety with a 5"

[hushed onyx]

as long as you reinstall the props correctly

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ok ill go try fly it now

[hushed onyx]

I've seen so many bloody pics over the years

[slim sky]

Don't cut off your fingers

[hushed onyx]

@gilded socket BE PREPARED TO DISARM IT

IMMEDIATELY

[slim sky]

Always at any time

[hushed onyx]

it is faster than you expect

even this basic 3S setup will be plenty too fast for a newbie xD

[slim sky]

Disarming saves both you but also the quad

[frosty meadow]

0 to Mach Jesus faster than you can blink.

[hushed onyx]

like... fooooortunately it's a 3S with redbottoms

but still, plenty quick

[slim sky]

Acceleration from drones is crazy

[frosty meadow]

Exactly.

90MPH is 40m/s.

That is 10 metres in quarter of a second.

[slim sky]

The time it needs to get to the top speed is irrelevant as its accelerating so fast

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(Which, off topic, is why VR headsets as FPV goggles is a dumb idea. 200ms latency means that 90mph drone covers about 8 metres before you get to see it happen.)

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It's always a good idea to not take off a few steps away from your drone, especially when flying it for the first time @gilded socket

[slim sky]

Better to go a couple meters away

[frosty meadow]

My 5" cartwheeled over 100 metres across a flat grass field once.

All I did was clipped the deck in a sweeping turn 'cos I banked a smidge too far over.

If it had come my way, there would have been blood.

[hushed onyx]

the long lack of response is worrying

[slim sky]

He's either having fun or on his way to a hospital

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???

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o get it now

[slim sky]

Seems like he survived

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i id

did

but i crashed it like 15 times before my batterry dies, my second batterry connector i need to resoldier it

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i think the first option

thankfully

[slim sky]

Where were you flying?

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like i have a small field near my house

but the drone is so fricking fast it's hard to control

plus i'm flying los

not like flying LOS makes ny difference but still

Anyways thats a lot to specifically @gilded socket he's the man

@hushed onyx

wrong ping ,ol

[slim sky]

Why tf are you flying los

In angle or acro?

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i don't have goggles yet

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Oof

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angle tho

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Fpv is easier than Los imo

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probs

anyways, next purchase:
googles

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The entire company? Damn you're loaded

[slim sky]

Why would you buy an fpv drone before buying the goggles

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do you have any suggestions on like some cheap googles that don;t have thier camera quality crap af

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??

[slim sky]

Google

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🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

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my parents got me them for my bday so don'y judge, all of us are newbies

[slim sky]

Cheapest worth having Ev800d, skyzone cobra x are great but more expensive, you can also look for some used goggles and ask in this server if they are worth buying

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okie

traademe we go maybe?>

?

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?

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the skyzone cobra's are abit too expensive, but the ev800D are good, are they digital or analog, and if they are analoug how good is the quality?

[slim sky]

Analog, bad

Cobras are analog but better

I haven't tried the Ev800d personally, but you can ask someone who has them about the quality

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what about these?

[slim sky]

I don't think they're worth it

You could look for second hand goggles

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i haven't found anything yet

wait

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why not, in my currency it's not expensive

in usd it's around 75 ish

[slim sky]

Yah but they are probably even worse

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I also found these on a facebook community

[slim sky]

Those would be better, but how much do they want for it?

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300 nzd

thats around 150 USDT

[slim sky]

Hmm

I think that's not too bad

Especially because they have the tbs fusion module

Just make sure they don't have bad sun spots

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wdym by that?

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what is that?

[terse gale]

If you leave the goggles out in the sun, it can damage the displays

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oh ok

[slim sky]

Makes some green spots on the display

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?

[slim sky]

A good analog module

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i see

oh i see

ill text them and see

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wait what about the transmitter?

do i have to buy it myself?

[slim sky]

Do you have no cam in your quad?

Then yes if you built it yourself

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i have a cam but not sure if there is a transmitter

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i built the camera myself?

[slim sky]

What is it connected to

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no

[slim sky]

The drone

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yes

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Uhh idk if you put a vtx in it or not

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it only has an osd, the camera itself

it was a kit

i don't think i have one

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no

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Wdym by that

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yeah it doesnt have a transmitter

[slim sky]

Do you have a picture of the open drone?

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i havn't put the camera in yet

will a picture of just the camera and everything that was included in the camera thing allright?

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?

[slim sky]

So I can see the electronics

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not today

ill do it tommorow

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Hello

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what do you think about this

ill take a picture soon

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@hushed onyx what do you think of the goggles and the VTX?

[hushed onyx]

vtx seems overpriced, is that USD?

what goggles (all fatshark HD shit looks the same lol) and what price?

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no it's not, it's nzd

so about 20 usdt

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150 usdt

[hushed onyx]

ah, then the price is alright, but still not a great VTX for a 5"

[hushed onyx]

and what model are they?

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i'm not sure, that's all the informatino they give, i can can ask them though

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why not?

[slim sky]

I think dominator v3

With a fusion module

[hushed onyx]

it's a whoop VTX 😄 wrong mounting pattern to start with, u.FL is also not great on 5"

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are any of these good for mine?

just divide the price by 2 to approximataly get USD

[hushed onyx]

well, ig those are worse even xD 350mW isn't a lot for a 5"

the other one is 400mW iirc

figuring out an antenna setup on a 5" with ufl is difficult

mmcx is easier

90° mmcx antennas are made in 5"-ideal lengths

and have a lot less of a chance of coming unplugged in flight

heck, TBS had to invent a screwdown plate do prevent ufls from flying apart

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i think i found something decent

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?

[hushed onyx]

yeah this one is decent

I personally don't like it that much because it requires 5V power, but it performs fine

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my output for my camera and transmitter have 5v

[hushed onyx]

the problem isn't with the availability of 5V, the problem is with the fact that VTX's are very power hungry

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oh

[hushed onyx]

and I dislike putting too much load on FC 5V

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so how much will it cut my battery by?

[hushed onyx]

not the issue xD

seconds, at most, lol

the issue is the current capability of the FC's 5V regulator

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what does that mean?

[hushed onyx]

The FC takes battery voltage and steps it down to 5V, for itself and external electronics (receiver, camera, etc)

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also will it be compatible with the goggles and fc

[hushed onyx]

that step down circuitry has a limit as to how much current can flow through it

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i have an esc that steps down to 5v

[hushed onyx]

you don't want to use ESC 5V, that shit is vile..

noisy as hell

how old are your ESCs, jesus

5V on ESCs hasn't been a thing for a very long time

at least in drones

I can't recall what your setup has lol

but anyway

what FC have you got?

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no it goes from battery to esc which steps down to 5V which then goes to FC

[hushed onyx]

jesus christ

I'll be really surprised if you ever get watchable video...

there's a reason that style of build was abandoned in like 2016

ESC 5V is extremely noisy

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wdym it's noisy?

[hushed onyx]

not sure how to explain that from scratch, what exactly do you not understand about it?

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is it like the radio will be noisy, like in photography if you tur your sensitiviy(ISO) up it begins to capture extra "noise" (light)
is it like that but only with the vtx transmittion

[hushed onyx]

it is a similar kind of noise but much more varied and rough

the ESC does a lot of very harsh things with a lot of electrical power

that causes a lot of random electrical fields to pop up

if the 5V regulator is on the ESC, it can very easily end up being affected by that

so the 5V may be 5V on average

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i do have a step down convertor

[hushed onyx]

but if you look at the graph of the voltage, it's a mess

That's why 5V regulators very quickly transitioned onto the FC's, which don't have to deal with a lot of power

so, what FC have you got?

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here's the diagram that came with it

[hushed onyx]

That thing definitely has its own 5V regulator

actually it has a 5V and 9V regulator

Are you not using the ESC that's meant to be used with this board?

I am hella confused now 😄

why are you using another ESC with a 5V regulator?

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i am using the thing in tio left

*top

[hushed onyx]

soooo

I am confused xD

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ok

what exactly should i clarify 😄

[hushed onyx]

You have a FC and 4in1 ESC
The 4in1 ESC doesn't step down 5V, the FC does it

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it doesn't?

when i checked the documentation for the helios it said that it did

[hushed onyx]

?helios?

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mb it's a BL-Helios

the model name

[hushed onyx]

BLHeli

BLHeli_S is the specific kind of ESC that it is

but not the specific model

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ooh

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BLHeli_S is an ESC firmware that this runs

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ooff

[hushed onyx]

the ESC hardware is designed to run BLHeli_S firmware

that's what makes it a BLHeli_S ESC

but anyway

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oh i see

[hushed onyx]

In your case, it's the FC that makes 5V

Its 5V regulator can do 2.5A... lemme do some math

Do you have any decorative LEDs on the drone?

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nope

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i can check

should i?

[hushed onyx]

I'm not asking, it's literally in the specs 😄

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it is?

ok so

[hushed onyx]

The VTX will draw up to 0.8A roughly

so it's kinda fine

camera is like 0.3A

the FC itself like 0.2A

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so is this still applicable?

[hushed onyx]

nope

from your description, it sounded like you had individual ESCs with 5V regs on them 😄

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oh, i didn't realise

thanks for explaining

[hushed onyx]

Your FC has its own 5V regulator so in terms of noise it should be okay

The 5V regulator is beefy enough

so even that should be okay

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so what harm can the fact that the vtx is taking from the fc cause?

[hushed onyx]

Some cheaper FC's use a 1.5A regulator, in which case it wouldn't be okay

The VTX draws up to 0.8A

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what about mine?

[hushed onyx]

The Speedybee TX800 VTX draws up to 0.8A from the 5V line.
Your FC can produce a total of 2.5A.
Receiver = 0.2A, Camera = 0.3A, FC itself = 0.2A usually

those are mostly peak numbers, not necessarily sustained

VTX (0.8A) + RX (0.2A) + Camera (0.3A) + FC (0.2A) = 1.5A

so you should have 1A to spare, which should be okay

on some shittier FC's which have a 1.5A 5V regulator, it wouldn't be okay

that's one of the reasons why I was worried

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oh ok

[hushed onyx]

anyway, the TX800 is generally well regarded

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last thing all the stuff are compatible with each other (goggles-VTX)(VTX-FC)

[hushed onyx]

just get an antenna with a 90° MMCX connector for the vtx

[hushed onyx]

yeah

I'm not sure how good of a value those goggles are

the module in them is good, the goggles themselves, idk

did you measure your IPD?

to see if the goggles will even work with your eyes xD

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what does IPD mean?

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inter-pupillary distance

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why?

[hushed onyx]

distance between eye pupils

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something like this?

[hushed onyx]

that's an adapter not an antenna xD

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would that be a problem?

[hushed onyx]

you can buy an antenna that directly has the right connector

[hushed onyx]

with slimline goggles like those fatsharks, yes

you have to adjust the screens to match your IPD

and the adjustment range is limited

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any of these?

[hushed onyx]

those are all adapters, not antennas xD

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ill probably go check it out before i'll buy them

[hushed onyx]

for me, none of those goggles work, because my IPD is just way too wide (bigass head)

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🤦‍♂️

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should be fine but again ill have a look before ill buy them

[hushed onyx]

these kinds of antennas exist

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these are antennas any of these?

[hushed onyx]

well, one is technically speaking an antenna, but not for a vtx xD

link the shop

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https://www.kiwiquads.co.nz/?s=Antenna&post_type=product&dgwt_wcas=1

[hushed onyx]

the selection on that site is impressively tragic

one thing to note

antenna compatibility

RHCP x LHCP (signal polarisation)

you need the same kind on the goggles and vtx

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oh

do you have enough info to determine if my goggles are compatible with the vtx?

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?

[hushed onyx]

the VTX is not the problem

it's just about antennas

a RHCP antenna sends a RHCP signal (RHCP = right hand circular polarised)

essentially, RHCP means that the signal has a right-hand spin on it

and, to receive a RHCP signal properly, you need a RHCP antenna

a LHCP antenna will almost entirely reject RHCP signal

Analog FPV is mostly RHCP

but it's up to the owner

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oh

[hushed onyx]

so idk what antenna is on the goggles

it'S not written in the post

anyway, back to the shop and VTX antenna...

they don't have any RHCP MMCX antennas

correction

no nvm

none that I can see

only LHCP

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oh

[hushed onyx]

NO wait

am blind

they have one with a straight connector

don'T want that

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should i ask the owner what kind of antenna they have on the goggles

?

[hushed onyx]

God dammit that shop is cursed.
Yeah you should

So, for 90° MMCX antennas, Kiwi quads only has LHCP ones.

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okie i will

so i'll ask about the antenna

but should i order the vtx?

[hushed onyx]

well, yeah. Do you have any other FPV shops you can buy from?

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where is that from?

[hushed onyx]

From Speedybee's website

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not rlly

[hushed onyx]

what the TX800 comes with

which actually saves you 😄

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should i buy from there?

[hushed onyx]

nono

I'm sending it to show you what's in the package of the TX800

The TX800 comes with

1. a small linear (non RHCP/LHCP) antenna, which you could use to get started (veeery short range though)
2. a MMCX to SMA adapter

so you can use a SMA antenna as well

(warning, SMA and RP-SMA are different connectors!)

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https://dronedepot.co.nz/?srsltid=AfmBOoqlCnwnyWv78NOAAo2PzA3ekEFwsvHlpS70ku7n1DoYzP4OYlaq

there's this other one

[hushed onyx]

RHCP SMA antenna examples(not all)
(these ones you could use with the adapter that's included with the VTX)
https://www.kiwiquads.co.nz/product/flywoo-circular-rhcp-sma-antenna-2-sizes/
https://www.kiwiquads.co.nz/product/vas-5-8ghz-ethix-victory-sma-antenna-lhcp-rhcp/
https://www.kiwiquads.co.nz/product/foxeer-lollipop-4-5-8ghz-rhcp-sma-antenna-2pcs/
https://www.kiwiquads.co.nz/product/vas-5-8ghz-victory-stubby-sma-antenna-lhcp-rhcp/
https://www.kiwiquads.co.nz/product/iflight-albatross-v2-5-8-ghz-rhcp-sma-antenna-60mm/

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ok thanks

which is better, the first one or the last one 😄

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?

[hushed onyx]

these are just examples.. there are more on the website

I'm not rating them, figure out which one you like based on price and size...

figure out where the VTX will fit in your drone

and from that figure out how the VTX + adapter + antenna will fit

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ok

thanks

i need to go niw

now

ill look at it later

😄

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@hushed onyx should i ask the guy who's selling the goggles any questions?

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@slim sky

yo

ill send the photos now

there you go

[slim sky]

Oh god that's a huge rx

Yeah no vtx there yet

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i there's like a little space under the reciever which i'm not sure that enogh, but i also do not kn ow where to put the power cable

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i know

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nope

[slim sky]

That space Is usually for the rx I think

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[slim sky]

It looks like your stack is 180° rotated

The upper side with the metal parts is the front

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🤦‍♂️

[slim sky]

The arrow should point upwards to the metal part

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wdym by metal stacks

oh

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d o you know how i can position my camera?
I'll change that tommorow

@hushed onyx i found out the antenne type, its the rhcp antenna on the goggles

Also guys do you think i will be able to fit this?

and where?

[hushed onyx]

og god I forgot that you have that massive shitting receiver

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lol

[hushed onyx]

Could you just like... switch to ELRS?

[frosty meadow]

Just scrolled up.

What the shitfuck is that? The Nineties called and want their Rx back.

I genuinely wouldn't feel safe using FlySky on a quad of that size.

[hushed onyx]

and that's the second one I'm dealing with in parallel today

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wait what's elrs again?

is that a transmitter or smn?

wait does that mean i also have to buy another controller?

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yes it is a transmitter

[slim sky]

A better radio link

[slim sky]

You'd need another controller or an external module

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🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

like what do i do?

i'm allready broke from buying the goggles, the drone itself

also

what does this mean

?

[terse gale]

TBS Fusion is the video receiver module that goes on the goggles. It combines two signals, from two different antennas that you attach to it. The regular antennas are omni antennas that receive signal from basically all directions. A patch antenna has a smaller "field of view" essentially. It can receive signals from much farther away, but only in a specific direction. RHCP stands for "right-hand circular polarisation", it's the type of polarisation that the antenna uses. This is the typical polarisation used for analog video on anything bigger than a tinywhoop (they use linear polarisation antennas because they can be much lighter and smaller)

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i'm just not sure how i can squish a camera and vtx onto the drone lol

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^

[terse gale]

Is the battery wire coming out the front of the drone? If so:

Rotate the ESC 90 degrees (you'll have to update the motor order in Betaflight after that) so that the battery plug comes out the side. Maybe put some tape along the edge of the frame too so it doesn't cut the wires.

Mount the camera where the battery plug used to go.

If the frame is tall enough, mount the VTX on top of the flight controller stack

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yeah that was a temorary solution

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does it say how tall the vtx is?

if not then what?

[terse gale]

No that shows the outer dimensions and the hole mounting pattern

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then how do i know how tall it is

it also says that it comes with an antenna but i have no idea what kind it is

[terse gale]

What flight controller do you have?

And what frame?

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mach 5

frane

the fc itself is 3.5 by 3.5

the hight will fit but whats are the length and width?

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^

[terse gale]

It says it comes with this one.
https://www.speedybee.com/speedy-bee-5-8-ghz-antenna-v2/

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oh ok

[terse gale]

No what is the brand and model of flight controller?

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have no idea but this is what came with it

[terse gale]

Looks like it's this one
http://dakefpv.com/pd.jsp?id=38

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yeah

[terse gale]

Is this your frame?

There's also a "lite" version

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nope

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not sure what is then

do you need the dimension or smn?

do you know the length and width of the vtx?

[terse gale]

Do you have a link to the frame?

[terse gale]

Yeah. But also if it looks like there's plenty of space above the FC then it'll probably fit

The other option is to move the FlySky receiver somewhere else and mount the VTX where you have the receiver right now

I think, anyway. Assuming you've got mounting holes there

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ok

thanks

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do you know how i should mount the camera though?

[terse gale]

3D printed mount, if you've got access to one

Depending on the camera and the mounting options the frame provides sometimes you can get pre-designed ones

Or sometimes there'll be side plates that come with the frame that are meant to hold the camera in place

It really depends on what your frame came with

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i have this mount:

[terse gale]

There's no picture?

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gimma half a second

m

b

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there you go

[terse gale]

Oh yeah that's standard. I meant moreso the mounting options provided by the drone's frame itself

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wait so just cheking

do i have to buy an antenne for the vtx ?

[terse gale]

Only if you choose not to get one bundled with the VTX

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ok oh

but just checking it is compatible with the rsomething smn smn

[terse gale]

Huh?

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this thing

ow well ill buy the vtx and goggles and see what else i need

[terse gale]

Ah. Can you send the specific link you're buying the VTX from?

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yeah

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https://www.kiwiquads.co.nz/product/speedybee-tx800-800mw-vtx/

[terse gale]

The reviews say it comes with an antenna, so it's probably best to hold off on buying an antenna for the VTX until it arrives and you can confirm whether it comes with one or not

[hushed onyx]

it comes with a tiny linear antenna which isn't exactly useful when the goggles have a RHCP antenna...

[terse gale]

Oh yeah definitely get a proper one lol

[hushed onyx]

Like.. for initial setup and some short range flying mayyyybe