Which radio controllers are compatible with tbs crossfire nano? I'm a beginner to fpv and just bought my first fpv drone (flywoo lr4 analogue) with the tbs crossfire nano receiver. Will any controller be compatible with this drone out the box? If not which budget radio controller would be recommended for long range?
#Help with finding a budget radio controller for tbs crossfire nano
upbeat berry
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Which radio controllers are compatible with tbs crossfire nano? I'm a beginner t...
Honestly, the cheapest way may be to get an ELRS radio and swap the receiver for an ELRS one...
not 100% sure about the numbers there tho
Did you already receive the drone?
upbeat berry
yes
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dang
you could've ordered it with an ELRS receiver
that would've been the cheapest option by far
upbeat berry
damn
I heard the tbs offers better security when transmitting data
and elrs can be more comples to set up sometimes
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I heard the tbs offers better security when transmitting data
I don't see how that matters
noone is trying to hack your drone
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and elrs can be more comples to set up sometimes
and it also has the best documentation compared to pretty much everything in the hobby, compared to TBS's next to worst..
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That's what we recommend nowadays
upbeat berry
isnt there any radio transmitter I can use for it tho
ive been looking at the jumper t12
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It's cheaper, gets very similar range while being much more consistent, and the radios cost a lot less
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swap out the crossfire reciever for elrs
upbeat berry
but its out of stock
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RadioMaster TX12
upbeat berry
swap out the crossfire reciever for elrs
how hard is that?
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wires up pretty much the same way
fading plume
ive been looking at the jumper t12
id reco a radiomaster zorro instead
upbeat berry
RadioMaster TX12
yeah I looked at that as well but I was unsure whether I need to get a module for the module bay or whether i can just use it out the box
fading plume
for crossfire you need a mobule
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yeah I looked at that as well but I was unsure whether I need to get a module fo...
None of these radios will work with Crossfire out of the box
fading plume
for elrs or frsky you can use it out of the box
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for Crossfire, you need the TBS Tango 2 or Mambo
or a module
upbeat berry
interesting
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but all of those will cost more than grabbing an ELRS radio and an ELRS receiver
upbeat berry
would a multi protocol module work
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No.
fading plume
nope
upbeat berry
like the P4-in-1 Module
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you need to get a tbs tango 2 or mambo
or any radio and a crossfire module
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true
upbeat berry
or any radio and a crossfire module
ig this would be cheaper
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ig this would be cheaper
ehh, not cheaper than switching to ELRS
upbeat berry
true
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elrs is the cheapest way
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ELRS gets comparable range with a smaller antenna, while also being much more consistent..
the only negative difference is that Crossfire's 900MHz is slightly better at going through walls than ELRS's 2.4GHz
upbeat berry
yeah so better penetration
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marginally
upbeat berry
ill just save up for a crossfire module ig
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not really much better tho
and ive had no issues with elrs
and its easier get help for elrs
as its open source
and also a lot of ppl here use elrs
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Crossfire is more of a pain to deal with when anything goes wrong, it only runs 150Hz for a short range (while ELRS runs that for miles), and the documentation is useless
There's a reason why 90% of the new stuff in the hobby is now ELRS-based
Costs nothing and performs great
you get the cake AND to eat it too 😂
upbeat berry
So how about I buy a elrs recierver and replace the crossfire witht that
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So how about I buy a elrs recierver and replace the crossfire witht that
you mean receiver?
upbeat berry
it costs like £15
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or.. what...
upbeat berry
you mean receiver?
yeah sorry
upbeat berry
😭
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yeah and once ive done that I could use the tx12 radio controller
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yep
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EP1 Dual or SuperD if you want real good signal (dual antenna diversity)
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as long as you get the elrs version
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and then, for the radio, get one of these:
TX12 MKII, Zorro, Boxer, TX16S MKII
(in ELRS variant)
The Boxer will get you roughly 2x the range of the other 3 because it has a more powerful transmitter.
but heck, people have gone stupid far on 250mW ELRS 😂
upbeat berry
whats the max power output on the boxer
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1000mW
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1w
upbeat berry
holy
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4x the power = 2x the range
upbeat berry
thats a lot
upbeat berry
4x the power = 2x the range
yeah I saw a video on that
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there's no kill like overkill
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people go 10km on 10mw
upbeat berry
you wont need that much tho
true and the video signal will probs cut out before then
fading plume
oh def
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with dynamic power, the radio will be chilling on 25mW most of the time 😄
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unless u have a good setup
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There are a couple annoying teething issues surrounding ELRS (not necessarily caused by ELRS itself), but it's all well known and well documented
There are always a bunch of warnings and explanations in ELRS docs 😄
even down to specific radio firmware versions
They're unbelievably thorough.
Meanwhile, Crossfire be like
Oh, yeah, that feature we advertised doesn't work properly and no we won't fix the manual.
okay that was years ago but still, salty
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alright thanks for the help I was being a bit stupid when buying the drone shouldve bought the elrs version
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that's kinda why we ask people to ask first
Crossfire is still an okay system, but it just doesn't make sense for new pilots
upbeat berry
thought tbs would give it a larger range
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That's complicated
Crossfire has the 900MHz advantage, but its protocol is a lot less efficient
ELRS can run with a weaker signal
and still be fine
upbeat berry
crossfire = better penetration but inefficient protocols and elrs = little less penetration but efficient protocols
got it
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ELRS sends a lot less data over the air
so it can put more effort towards sending each bit
meaning that the receiver can hear each bit more clearly
Also.. modes: @upbeat berry
Crossfire has 150Hz or 50Hz. It can switch between them during flight, but this often causes disconnects or other weird behaviour.
ELRS (2.4GHz) has
FLRC: 1000Hz, 500Hz
FLRC is the "shorter range, minimum latency" protocol
DVDA: 500Hz, 250Hz
DVDA is the "shorter range, maximum consistency" protocol - it sends each packet twice
LORA: 500Hz, 250Hz, 150Hz, 50Hz
LORA is the "long range" protocol
Here's something fun
ELRS 2.4GHz
500Hz LORA
10mW power
10.2 km range 😄
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpiPEZrCGtg @upbeat berry
