Weapon as casting tool, or casting tool that can be reinforced

[whole oak]

Hi, sorry if it has been asked already and probably resolved, I did a few searches around the server and found nothing, but probably searched with the wrong key word? Anyway

The title pretty much says it all, I've been trying to make the Skull Lantern a pyromancy casting tool that can be reinforced, but so far, every atempt has led me to nothing. I managed to make it a casting tool, but that made it impossible to upgrade, i managed to make it upgradeable, but for as long as its not a casting tool

Is there a solution or its just impossible and I would have to think of some other clever way to make that lantern interesting?

[sonic vapor]

you'll probably want to basically reuse the same say they do pyromancy flame upgrades, which is by duping the flame and manually setting the upgrade stuff (+base attack, + scaling, etc.) and then use the upgrade option which I think is called like weapon base change or something along those lines?

im sure you could do something with the existing weapon upgrade system but you'll have to set a few other things to allow for +5->+6 and such

[whole oak]

honestly i just wanted to make it +5, like a twinkling weapon

[sonic vapor]

You should be able to do that fairly easily I think then

[whole oak]

the problem is that as soon as i toggle the "now this thing can cast" Andre deletes it from the list of upgradeable weapons

[sonic vapor]

hm weird

can you show a screenshot of your edited weapon param?

[whole oak]

sure

[sonic vapor]

ive just checked the box to make things "spell tool" before and have been able to upgrade weapons normally

if it's disappearing Im wondering if you have originweapons not set perhaps?

[whole oak]

dont even know what that is, so maybe you are on to something, like i said, really new to modding, like literally yesterday crazyness

[sonic vapor]

those look good (idk what iscustom does haha)

i know that field is used in elden for "easier" locations for weapons that npcs use

can you find and show basechangecategory

[whole oak]

hmmm maybe its that, although its normal so it should be upgradable technically?

sorry for all the misspelling, i dont write in english very often xD

[sonic vapor]

right click on that field, see what else is there

i cant remember if there is a special one for +5 type weapons, i though there was

[whole oak]

i think boss

i think i already tried changing that and it did nothing

[sonic vapor]

eh i dont think that one will work, that is a flag for allow to revert it back to the +10 I think?

been I while since ive done this

try use 1, does that allow you to upgrade?

it might not but just a shot

[whole oak]

trying rn

noupe, andre doesnt show the skull lantern on the upgrade window

[sonic vapor]

gotcha

the pyro flame itself is kinda different than other weapons in that upgrading it "creates" a new weapon entirely instead of swapping the upgrade level

[whole oak]

so i've seen

and it seems to be the only casting tool upgradeable

maybe i can find a way to upgrade it the same way

[sonic vapor]

as a workaround, you could duplicate the skull lantern and set custom attributes with offestting your weapon ID by 100, then changing the origin weapon for a +1 to 1396000, origin weapon for +2 to 1396100, etc

you'd set the basechangecat to 1 for pyromancy flame, and then it should work

[whole oak]

will it show on andre? thats the big question, i mean, that would make it upgradeable no doubt

guess i'll have to try and see

[sonic vapor]

idk tbh haha

maybe it is something with andre and it being a casting tool

[whole oak]

it will probably take me a little while to set everything up, but thanks anyway for answering and trying to help me, i'll say if it works when i finish trying it