#My TwinMaidenHusks shops are empty

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lavish carbon
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I literally don't know what I did to break it. None of their items show up for purchase.

The shop IDs are the same. The item IDs are the same. I thought maybe it was a issue of setting Sell Price values differing from the items, but they don't seem to do anything when reverted back to vanilla. I didn't mess with the ESD ranges.

I feel like I did something very obvious and stupid, but I don't remember what it was.

obsidian tapir
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are you sure the modded regulation.bin is actually being loaded? did you upgrade params since the latest update?

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custom shops are the first thing to break after game updates as the regulation.bin becomes invalid

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I would maybe check that other param changes are actually having an effect just to be sure

split stag
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Did you modify the m11 talkscript?

lavish carbon
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Whats up fellow gamers

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Yea- I know this shit is like 4 month out of date. But don't you hate it whenever you have the same issue as someone- and they never follow it up?

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So this is my due diligence:

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  1. alpha gamers with MAXIMUM. BITCHES. use ESDStudio.
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You gotta use an old Elden Ring pre-DLC executable to make ESD Studio not bitch. Currently it breaks with ER post-DLC

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Apparently you can then trick it to use post-DLC ESD scripts- so its a funky work around atm

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Do you want to modify ESD scripts?

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Of course you do

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Use ESDStudio

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If you are using Notepad and esdtool to make manual changes like a pleb- you are not allowed to sit at the cool kid's bench during lunch. You are making life harder on yourself

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  1. Make sure your shop shit isn't broken in DSMStudio/Smithbox
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So for example, my issue would be under this Param Category:

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And my issue is related to the Twin-Husk Maidens, so you should be looking at shit like this:

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notes:

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  • messing with an item's sell price when it's different VS the price in it's EquipParamGoods = Elden Ring will lose it's shit and disappear it from the face of the earth
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So be careful if you fuck with this

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  • Around tags? Watch out for Event Flags
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be careful when messing with these- as they can also mess with the item being shown in shops

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Quantity = how many

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Visibility = certain events in ER will trigger items being available in shops

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Alright with that out of the way- notice how everything is pretty much vanilla.

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(You'll know this if shits modified (not vanilla) if things in DSMapStudio/Smithbox turns green)

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Okay- so nothing in params seems broken. What the fuck is the issue?

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Protip: Making a new project in ESD Studio- leave project folder default. Set game to Elden Ring.exe. Point mod directory to the mod you are working on

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You'll see all this shit down here:

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These are like magical nerd scripts that makes Elden Ring do cool shit

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Taking a deeper look, notice how the Twin Maiden Husks are nested within the Roundtable Hold- just like in the actual game:

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(protip: this is what @split stag was pointing to before)

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Then you open this up and you just see, like

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a sea of shit

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A giant sea of completely incomprehensible bullshit

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Don't worry- over time you'll slowly understand what all this shit does

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What we're looking for is where the FUCK in ESD does it invoke the Twin Husk Maiden's shop bullshit?

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Well, a hint was right in front of us back in DSMap/Smithbox land:

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ID: "101800"

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These IDs is what Elden Ring uses to categorize these parameters.

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Atleast pre-DLC, for Twin Maidens, it goes up until 101881:

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So what if we try to use that to search in the Twin Maiden ESD?

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Bingo

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Specifically:

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OpenRegularShop = a function to show to the player the shop menu

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Inside the brackets, it shows two numbers: 101800 is the minimum ID- and 101897 is the maximum ID

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This is a very basic stupid people explanation of how shops kinda work

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My issue was that these numbers were completely fucked up for me- therefore, no working shop

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Fixed it- shit works now

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Now you know too

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Thanks @split stag

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And @obsidian tapir

obsidian tapir
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I have an entire guide for this y'know

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pt9NvPQZjvLC6kTtk5Tya8lCsWh4aFlXcgXygroTSH0/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.li6o5nxbce0p

Google Docs
How to make custom shops in Elden Ring

How to make custom shops in Elden Ring By PositronCannon (PC) 1. Introduction This tutorial will walk you through the steps required to modify existing shops in Elden Ring, as well as creating new custom shops. While this tutorial is specifically written for Elden Ring, most of it can also be app...