[SOLVED i think] Ash Of War Duplication problem

[fathom egret]

I'm trying to make a new ash of war for the Omenkiller Greataxe.
I duplicated the TAE for the Eruption ash of war (tae id : 656) and moved it at the id 626 which should be a free slot.
I also duplicated the behavior and all, duplicated the SwordArtsParam entry, etc.
As shown in the first screenshot, it shows up ingame but when I use the ash of war nothing happens. I figured from what I've read that it could be a problem with the behavior file, but I'd like more precise explanation if possible.
Thanks in advance ! I'll answer questions if asked.

If the quickest explanation is that I can't or something like that, please say it as quickly as possible so I can just replace another ash of war instead lmao

[onyx oak]

ok so how did you dupe the tae

via avenger's clipgen?

[fathom egret]

yep

I selected the 4 (if i remember correctly) a656 hkx (there was two autosets for each idk if it matters) and duplicated them to a626

[onyx oak]

Did you pick the swordartstype properly in the sword arts param?

26

In dsms

[fathom egret]

yep

gonna check just in case

[onyx oak]

ok so you picked 26 and nothing happens

[onyx oak]

good

hmmm this is strange

Wait
You know how to use hks?

[fathom egret]

not really

i've duped movesets before but never ashes of war, i tried once and had the same issue like 2 months ago

[onyx oak]

I'm guessing 26 is used in hks as an unused stance skill

so it starts with 040050 instead of 040000

try moving the tae to somewhere in the 700s

[fathom egret]

kk gonna do that

it'll take a few minutes

[onyx oak]

you have free spots in the 750s range

[fathom egret]

gap from 757-760

maybe

[onyx oak]

Yeah pick anything there

[fathom egret]

k

[onyx oak]

and send a pic of what your anim IDs look like if it doesn't work again

[fathom egret]

oop no gap here nevermind

oh wait i messed up mb

[onyx oak]

it's like 54 or something

just check in dsas

easier that was cuz you can collapse the taes

[fathom egret]

highlighted the gaps yeah

i picked 758

[onyx oak]

cool make sure to pick 158 for the sword arts type in dsms

[fathom egret]

k i think i moved everything folderwise

[onyx oak]

right you made the xml and tae edits in the folders?

[fathom egret]

yep

[onyx oak]

alright

[fathom egret]

launching the game

i really need a computer upgrade damn

nah, doesn't work

same thing happens, aka nothing

[onyx oak]

that's weird
You never added a skill take before?

[fathom egret]

never nah

well i did, but i had the exact same issue

[onyx oak]

if I was on my PC I could like show you how to do it cuz I did this new skill tae thing a lot

[fathom egret]

crap

[onyx oak]

what do the anim IDs look like

in both clipgen and dsas

[fathom egret]

this is dsas

[onyx oak]

Try changing the name

[fathom egret]

this in clipgen

[onyx oak]

To a758_040000 etc

[fathom egret]

yeah

[onyx oak]

Not the ID
The name

[fathom egret]

yes the name

[onyx oak]

did you change it?

[fathom egret]

yep

oh in clipgen

me dumbass aren't i ?

[onyx oak]

nah

[fathom egret]

oh okay

so in clipgen or in dsanim ? xD

[onyx oak]

did anything happen?

both I guess

like remove the hkx autoset text

[fathom egret]

nah nothing happens still

[onyx oak]

dawg what

[fathom egret]

i'm cursed with the inability to make ashes of war it seems

[onyx oak]

show me the dsms sword arts row

[fathom egret]

[onyx oak]

It's pretty annoying at first

can you set artspeedtype to 1?

[fathom egret]

yes, didn't work tho

[onyx oak]

u did everything right I dont get why it isn't working

[fathom egret]

told you

the curse

[onyx oak]

sad

[fathom egret]

i mean i am trying to torture some omen souls rn, that's on me

[onyx oak]

probably yeah

Come up with something better like the good personer or something

[fathom egret]

but

but the yellow and black flames tho

they look good

[onyx oak]

u have enough patience to wait till tomorrow?

[fathom egret]

not really honestly but i'll try to wait and not adhd my way to another moveset idea

[onyx oak]

I can get on PC tomorrow to help with the whole skill adding thing

[fathom egret]

'kay

i'll do the rest of the moveset until then

[onyx oak]

what's the time for you now?

[fathom egret]

11:47pm

[onyx oak]

I uhhhhh

11pm is night right?

[fathom egret]

ye

23:48

[onyx oak]

Cool so it's a 2 hour difference from here

well I'll be on like maybe the whole day tomorrow idk
whenever ur free lemme know

[fathom egret]

i usually wake up at around 11am on my part lmao

[onyx oak]

same

[austere fiber]

ive been lurking since im having the exact same issue too

[onyx oak]

cool I will be helping tomorrow

But rn I need to fix my sleep

[austere fiber]

cool, sleep well

the only thing that happens is ive duped double slash, it does nothing when i press the button but if i change the sword art param back to original double slash it plays the animation automatically like it was queued up or something

[fathom egret]

oh that's even weirder than mine wtf xD

yeah i tried bumping yours but no one reacted so i made mine and sent a link in the #elden-ring-modding

[onyx oak]

Ok I see the problem

I think

set the ID to 040200

[austere fiber]

yeah its happened with this one and i tried duping seppuku as well

[onyx oak]

Instead of 040000

[fathom egret]

okay i'll try

[austere fiber]

will try

so a 200 offset for all the anims?

[onyx oak]

What weapon ur using?

[fathom egret]

oh nevermind not talking to me

[onyx oak]

no

You too

[austere fiber]

uchi atm

[fathom egret]

oh okay

[onyx oak]

ah ok idk then

I will try n see tomorrow don't worry

[austere fiber]

okay thanks, ill work on other stuff atm

[onyx oak]

gl with that

[austere fiber]

yeah double slash has a lot of ids, it goes from 040000 to 040320

[onyx oak]

yeah well
Those are for wield stances

spears use a003 for example
And they get the 040300 anims

greatswords ultra greatswords use a002
So they use the 040200 anims

[austere fiber]

i think for double slash its mainly the full combo (first 2 slashes, then 3, then the final one) and then the no fp variant, thats just what i think from looking in DSAnimStudio tho

ah okay

[onyx oak]

But that's not mandatory

I just thought of it rn cuz howsy is using the omenkiller axe which uses the a002 wield stance

[fathom egret]

i'll try yeah

launching the game

[fathom egret]

it's still weird cuz the original aow can be put on the axe no problem

[onyx oak]

yeah ik

[fathom egret]

greataxe actually*

also how the fuck is that an axe

and how the fuck does it do slashing

[onyx oak]

They use these multiple IDs systems when they have one skill apply for multiple weapons but they want them all to use different animations

[fathom egret]

nah doesn't work still

[austere fiber]

ah i see

[onyx oak]

like how double slash for greatswords would have your character pull the sword to their shoulder at the end

[onyx oak]

L
I'll see tomorrow then okay?

[fathom egret]

yep

[austere fiber]

ohh yeah that makes sense, double slash has like 000, 200, and 300

[onyx oak]

gn

[fathom egret]

gn

[austere fiber]

gn

it happened again, this is the only other thing thatll happen, ill hit the ash of war key and wont be able to move but no anim will play

sorry just had this happen so i wanted to record it

[fathom egret]

god i'm fucking traumatised of margitt now

i made his anims faster and have fakeouts and stuff, to fuck around

[fathom egret]

that's even weirder

[austere fiber]

just tp into his arena manually and you can use him as a training dummy

[austere fiber]

yeah idk whats with it, ive remade the anims like 3 different times to see if i just messed up somewhere but it always comes out like that

[fathom egret]

it's like it triggers

but it doesn't find an anim

weird

[austere fiber]

yeah it did that with the seppuku dupe i made too

[fathom egret]

basically only missing the ash of war, i did almost everything else

oh it's daytime shit

[onyx oak]

elden ring

[fathom egret]

so

erm

i think i'm ready for it

[onyx oak]

erm

well that was awkward 🤓

idk if i should stream it or record a video

[fathom egret]

idk

[onyx oak]

a stream would be easier communication but a video will save me from using my brain to talk

[fathom egret]

video good

i don't talk in vc, i'm very non-verbal lol

[onyx oak]

no talking needed

its because i can tell you what to do and you say you did it or not

to know exactly what the problem is

anyway imma record

[fathom egret]

kk

[onyx oak]

yeah no idk how to record this im not good with pre recorded explanations

[fathom egret]

okay xD

honestly either screenshots

or you wait 10 mins and we hop in a stream

where i'm muted

[onyx oak]

stream is a lot easier
no talking on your side is required just type in chat

[fathom egret]

brb then go

ok

dm call ?

@onyx oak?

[onyx oak]

oh right

i was eatign

[fathom egret]

no problem lmao

i'm a vampire i forgot normal people need sustenance

[onyx oak]

crazy world we live in

[fathom egret]

u call whenever

[fathom egret]

[SOLVED i think] Ash Of War Duplication problem

[austere fiber]

Can i ask what the problems were? I just woke up sorry for the late reply, im in a totally diff timezone

[onyx oak]

you pick like tae IDs that are not below 650

thats it i assume

[austere fiber]

i was trying 626 and 630 at first and it didnt work, i tried 720 before and it still wasnt working

[onyx oak]

try 745

me n hoswy like
idk how we solved it

it just started working for her but not me

randomly even

then it worked for me like 10 mins later

[austere fiber]

745 isnt working for me, having the same issues, so not sure what it is

[onyx oak]

make sure you name the IDs properly
the taes you added named properly in both tae folder and xml file

link the anims properly in dsms

there must be something missing or the game is just refusing to work

[austere fiber]

im pretty sure i did all the file stuff properly, changed the behaviours in ERClipGenerator, copied the TAEs in c000.anibnd and changed the xml, copied the stuff in the a9x and changed the a9x xml and i checked the anims in DSAnim studio and then set the numbers up in map studio, i dont think i missed any steps right?

i was pretty much just copying Syyyke moveset tutorial but with an ash of war, so i just changed the a9x file instead of a6x or whichever one it would be, which i thought would be right but idk i could be missing something important

[onyx oak]

yeah im convinced it works differently for everyone at this point

check if you have everything updated or something

[austere fiber]

the only stuff i dont have updated is whatever changed with 1.10, im not sure if theres a 1.09.1 vanilla regulation to update my params with and i havent updated my animation files just bc ive added lots of small copy paste stuff to the spells and dont know how changed the file got, but if it comes to it ill try updating it and just seeing if i can get it working

[onyx oak]

Look for files posted by dylan🍒 in this server

he posted a reg.bin for the prev patch iirc