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[limpid sequoia]

from 11 AM to 2 PM

[rancid seal]

I will have to do the same thing but with 384x384 textures 😭

[limpid sequoia]

the hell is going on

[rancid seal]

Ultra RTX sadar doing

[limpid sequoia]

rtex sadar

[rancid seal]

With ultra realism texturas

[limpid sequoia]

[limpid sequoia]

just made it pump

[wise hinge]

gimp

[limpid sequoia]

[blazing whale]

For ertiex

[limpid sequoia]

😆

[rancid seal]

Rtxium

Why dont we have this kind of chemical element

[limpid sequoia]

[rancid seal]

:doggy_smurk:

[rancid seal]

Ive decided to go to the gym instaead of doing my ultra rtex sadars today 🗿

[rancid seal]

Oh no block item PBR is rendering

[limpid sequoia]

[zenith stone]

Entities with glowing effects look cool

[scarlet gust]

Now add point lights.

[zenith stone]

I might at some point but its not a priority for me

[limpid sequoia]

Depth

Height is great

-# i just fallen in love with Height

[willow needle]

Sandstone top

Sandstone side

[willow needle]

end stone

[limpid sequoia]

Planks

[rancid seal]

I have the similar heightmaps for those blocks

Somehow

[limpid sequoia]

that's life

[rancid seal]

Maybe we had the similar ways of creating heightmaps lol

[limpid sequoia]

we're not

my method is really weird

[rancid seal]

Im listening :3

[limpid sequoia]

because i used to draw heightmap in every white and black block details

not just draw, i've changed the curves

[rancid seal]

Hmmmm

[limpid sequoia]

and i'm using GIMP, Blockbench is useless for me in this time

[rancid seal]

A lot of heightmaps in my pack are drawn at all

[limpid sequoia]

i'm working on my Height again

for some specific blocks

[rancid seal]

I usually just use original texture, remove the colour, and invert it if i need to.

[limpid sequoia]

i used to desaturate the textures

[rancid seal]

Unfortuantelly, it cannot be used for every Minectaft texture

[limpid sequoia]

it could

[rancid seal]

As they have some kind of shading, or colour

[limpid sequoia]

before

after

just make sure:

[rancid seal]

I mean some textures have shading effect, enchanting table top has the entire shadow on its texture, and sometimes you need to incert the textire, thats whats im talking about

[limpid sequoia]

well, i did desaturate it before

i can do it but u can't so why

i have no knowledge about that too

[rancid seal]

Ive just explained :((

I did the same thing.

Also, what did you do for the enchanting table top

[limpid sequoia]

i have just do it

[rancid seal]

Bro did you just heightmapped a shadow? 😭

[limpid sequoia]

nope

[rancid seal]

This circle in the center of the texture is shadow

[limpid sequoia]

that's how GIMP works

[rancid seal]

?

I said nothing about GIMP

[limpid sequoia]

i used GIMP to desaturate that texture

and i haven't done anything about the shadows

[scarlet gust]

Just use Pixlr.

[limpid sequoia]

i'm not interested in that

[robust warren]

What type planks?

[limpid sequoia]

that's pale planks of course

[robust warren]

Ok

[blazing whale]

we said rtx lovers 🗿

[limpid sequoia]

nah

[blazing whale]

with desaturated method?

[limpid sequoia]

luminance of course

if i know anything i'll share (some)
-# vietnamese always saying: "The more you give, the more you receive"

[willow needle]

New normalmap sandstone side!

[willow needle]

test with ray tracing

[limpid sequoia]

i thought it was height before but never mind, this texture is really good

[woven mauve]

What slabs are those mixed with the copper slabs in image one?

[limpid sequoia]

i'm not sure then because those blocks came from BoB addon:)

[woven mauve]

Ah gotcha. I'm glad I'm not being stupid and forgetting an entire vanilla blockset.

[willow needle]

New normalmap for end stone!

with AO

[quick beacon]

Okay, I will admit RTX is cool when it comes to simulating light

[rancid seal]

I will admit VV is cool to when it comes to low end devices

[pale urchin]

Is today opposite day?

[rancid seal]

Also why the heck this video is just 1 frame

18 seconds of 1 frame for me

OH LOL

I have to paay 1$ to play this video

And I still cant do that because microsoft is a peace of trash canceling money from people who are from russiaa

Nvm I could just pirate this one

[limpid sequoia]

just a deprecated project

[brave schooner]

i feel scared

[brave schooner]

that's awesome
this end stone is really perfect❤️

[scarlet gust]

Re-encode it to H.264 with DaVinci Resolve or Shutter Encoder.

[rancid seal]

RTX end flash animation WIP

[rancid seal]

[limpid sequoia]

bro used to summon me

[rancid seal]

/summon ~~~

[limpid sequoia]

What can i help you today

[rancid seal]

[limpid sequoia]

[wise hinge]

:doggy_smoke:

[limpid sequoia]

the game has just started

[noble tulip]

Is there a mod that edits the brightness and contrast?

[limpid sequoia]

edit brightness and contrast for?

[noble tulip]

Shaders

[limpid sequoia]

Render Dragon Shader innit?

or u mean Vibrant Visuals pack

[noble tulip]

I think that

[limpid sequoia]

just use file editor

[limpid sequoia]

[wise hinge]

endstone normal

[rancid seal]

Kinda fixed end flashes in Minecraft RTX

[rancid seal]

And it all started like that

[limpid sequoia]

[rancid seal]

wait why copper is glowing wth

Ohhh wait I think you are slpeeing

[limpid sequoia]

yeah

because i used glowing mer for that

[willow needle]

chiseled sandstone (Vibrant Visuals)

chiseled sandstone (Ray tracing)

[woven mauve]

The hell is that format? I couldn't even get it to load in VLC Media Player, and that thing loads everything.

[willow needle]

with POM

[scarlet gust]

Why shouldn't it be glowing?

It seems fine to me.

[rancid seal]

Bro im not asking you

[rancid seal]

Best nether lightning

Idk why i had 30 fps in that screenshot

[limpid sequoia]

turn the preview overlay off

[rancid seal]

Uhh

Didnt know this one exist

[limpid sequoia]

dang

[rancid seal]

My honest reaction:

[limpid sequoia]

dawg

[rancid seal]

[limpid sequoia]

[blazing whale]

lava really needs glow 🗿

[limpid sequoia]

[rancid seal]

No

It doesnt

[inland vault]

If lava doesn't glow it'd just look like hot sauce

[half nacelle]

Ya

Just force full screen🤡

I'm joking

I'm back gys

[half nacelle]

This texture could have heightmaps, it would look really nice ngl.

[rancid seal]

Hell the f no, It couldn't

[half nacelle]

Btw I remade it to create the grass for Bare Bones without any idea of what the texture was like, etc., and use's Heightmaps (curiously, it turned out extremely similar).

I made my own trailer park-style grass, like Bare Bones, added height maps, and it turned out well btw

You just need to know where to put it.

[rancid seal]

My grass top texture has heightmap, made in trailer style

[half nacelle]

It practically doesn't appear.

[rancid seal]

Becuase there is no sun light in that location

Its logical

[half nacelle]

Literally

[rancid seal]

I can also see it

So wth lol

[half nacelle]

Tell that to the owner of Complementary btw ☠️🙏

[half nacelle]

Ts isn't texture?

[rancid seal]

Again, I can even see the heightmap.

[half nacelle]

Now it's explained, btw the lines are the Heightmap.

[rancid seal]

It fits the trailer style almost perfectly

[rancid seal]

heightmap

[half nacelle]

Btw during that time I worked on the PBR of my Java Shader (more optimized, yay! Now I'll have to solve the problem of the ground not appearing in DH-) so I haven't been around here lately for that reason.
Btw this isn't a Java Minecraft server, so ignore it if y'all wanna

[half nacelle]

@rancid seal TS IS PBR- (i'm js joking)

[half nacelle]

It's just a black screen.

[rancid seal]

no it isnt

[rancid seal]

Where is a joke? I see texture + normal map applied, pbr.

[half nacelle]

I don't mean to criticize your PBR, so i tagged you in this as js a joke, but i didn't mean that seriously.

My English is committing crimes-

[rancid seal]

I mean, it couldn't even look as the attempt to harm, for example. Like, comparing two different styles would be kinda funny actually.

[rancid seal]

I somehow see it

[half nacelle]

Btw i believed that Patrix only use heightmap-

[rancid seal]

I had an RTX resource pack with the similar style in the past. Now I don't have it

[half nacelle]

||Normal maps shouldn't provide depth, should they?||

[rancid seal]

They can, especially if you use POM

I use normal map + Hight metalness and roughness values both to simulate the depth.

For high resolution resource packs

[half nacelle]

Btw Basically, I removed the trick to optimize shadows by rotating the shadow like a sunflower from Mellow in PBR and kept it everywhere else, redoing the way shadows are produced in the entire PBR system—basically, redoing it entirely.

[half nacelle]

Wow, i believed that the normal map only gave a "taste" of the material's texture.

[rancid seal]

Uhh that's kinda what they do. I might have misunderstood you. Normal maps simulate that the object is detailed, but it's still the flat surface.

[half nacelle]

Ohhhh, so that's how they can generate depth? Basically providing texture details for PBR? (In case it has POM)

(This is just a way of speaking/explaining what i think; don't assume I think PBR is AI now.)

[rancid seal]

Well, if you use normal map without POM, it controls how light behaves when touching the surface. However, you will see that the surface is flat. POM makes it way better by making some details disappear based on your view angle. It is hard to explain via text tbh

The depth isn't real, it is simulated on the completely flat surface

[half nacelle]

This literally changed my perspective on the PBR ☠️

Literally my whole perspective.

[rancid seal]

Whaat was your previous perspective?

[half nacelle]

Like, I knew he was good for details, but I believed it was only for flat details and texture. If the texture itself was already there, it wouldn't change much; it would only help in certain situations, like with stones or grass.

But now I've discovered that it controls how the light reflects on the block, how it reflects, and where to show or remove depth in the block.

This is like 30x better than just applying the texture directly to the block normally.

[rancid seal]

Truth. The problem is normal maps are kinda useless when there is no light, if you have auto-expose, fore example.

[jagged badge]

Yeah. Your color texture should have some semblance of innate shading, as like some form of AO, otherwise it will look incredibly flat.

[rancid seal]

Fun fact - sunset in minecraft live 2022 trailer is nearly the same as Minecraft RTX sunset.

[blazing whale]

Yes, but you can trick it so that it looks like there is depth (even though there isn't), for example this pepper texture

[rancid seal]

I don't see the depth on this texture?

Idk

[blazing whale]

I mean fake depth

most clearly perhaps this is for falke depth (still normalmap)

[half nacelle]

I see it btw

[limpid sequoia]

[wise hinge]

CA

[wise hinge]

Pretty

[blazing whale]

Strawberry Deferred HDR P3

[limpid sequoia]

good then

[blazing whale]

Thank you and we are perfecting the old Strawberry concept on HDR P2

[limpid sequoia]

[blazing whale]

Yellow

[limpid sequoia]

yeah

[jade dust]

These are fire, I love it

[limpid sequoia]

The Nether

[blazing whale]

Nice

[limpid sequoia]

thank you very much

i have really much motivate to rewrite my configs

[blazing whale]

Nah dont change again later

[limpid sequoia]

yeah sure

my pack changed a lot

[blazing whale]

Yes

[scarlet gust]

Cat RTX and Cat Visuals are finally getting updated soon!

ItsDrCat has been recently making significant changes to Cat RTX and Cat Visuals, such as a lamp rework for Cat RTX, bug fixes related to animations for Cat RTX, and switching from ACES to Hable for Cat Visuals.

ItsDrCat is genuinely cooking with these changes.

[rancid seal]

Rtx packs made by rtx haters suck, vv packs made by vv haters suck too

[blazing whale]

Just chill bro 🗿

[rancid seal]

The work is only goid when the creator loves what they are doing.

Thats my point

[wise hinge]

[blazing whale]

Iron block

[rancid seal]

Ok

[wise hinge]

raw gold normal

[blazing whale]

Raw gold

[wise hinge]

[wise hinge]

.

[rancid seal]

I am sorry, but this one doesn't look good. My opinion

[white willow]

I'd say both my packs are great :p. I focus primarily on PBR effects and I just love how RTX handles PBR over VV

Path traced specular >

But I love the other customizations that VV has because I'm also a lighting geek

But if I had the option, I'd just make a custom shader

I've been thinking about it for RTX

But that's a giant hurdle I have to cross

[tribal trail]

Rtx packs made by rtx haters? Is there pack like that

[rancid seal]

I really wonder if there are some of those

[tribal trail]

oh my god, I wonder who that is

probably very bad person

[rancid seal]

My face reveal (maybe)

RTX could be better

Unfortunaatelly, this future release is still not out, after entire 6 years :<

And this becomes even worse since mojang have ruined block item PBR loading in RTX

[silent zealot]

I love how Editor Mode can easily switch tonemappers...expose this feature in Resource Pack pack settings please!

[blazing whale]

that's our texture style, I don't really care about other people's assessments

[silent zealot]

Are these all hand map or generated?

[rancid seal]

Other people's assessments or other people's assessments? Interesting

Ok ig

[half nacelle]

Why do mobile gamers like grassy floors as mirrors in the Minecraft Patched shaders so much? 😭🙏
Good evening gys

[half nacelle]

Hell ya hable

The bad thing is that the floor gets too dark.

[blazing whale]

normalmap is a set of mathematical codes, so it is irrelevant if everything uses handmade methods (unless there are certain conditions)

[rancid seal]

When i started using rtx, i loved reflective floor too

[silent zealot]

A bit relevant in figuring out how much effort 😁 Handmade takes more time than generated.

[rancid seal]

Seing a nig amount of reflections that you have never seen in minecraft is alsways exiting, and you usually prefer to use the more

[blazing whale]

yes sometimes

but not always

[silent zealot]

Ok 👍

[blazing whale]

16x can be tried using the handmade method but you have to understand the vector direction 🙃

[rancid seal]

Reflective floor kinda similates floor being wet. Like a heave rain was happening... I saw some people in tiktok using java shaders with reflective surfaces and it really looks like the rain ambience. It is just insane to see stuff you don't usually see. Also, if you imagine all blocks like flat surfaces, having them wet in the case we usually see kinda seems logical... I know its not

[blazing whale]

Some parts use handmade generation, but there is also automatic generation

[half nacelle]

I Hate ts since when have I known abt that

[rancid seal]

I enjoyed using RTX when i was staring it incorrectly. Everything wws so reflective and so cool. It was first times me using ryx resource packs, so everything was looking kinda normal. I havent seen reflections in ky entire life in minecraft before, so ive been enjoying so much

[half nacelle]

Like, bro, I like reflections, but you don't need to yell in my face that your shader has reflections 😭🙏

[blazing whale]

my english is not very good sorry

[rancid seal]

Mine too

[half nacelle]

The grass turns into a mirror, if you're going to use it, use it when it rains in the game 😭🙏

[rancid seal]

Ik telling about my experience of seing relfctibe floors 😭

[rancid seal]

Yeah, you are kinda right. It still looks magical and cool tho.

Or maybe this is for watercraft enjoyers... Or for those who like making their game look like plastic

[half nacelle]

Real life is free, bro. 💔🥀
Btw I understand your point; those with weak devices really can barely see reflections in games.

[rancid seal]

Ive never seend reflectikns in my entire life before. In mc, i mean 🥀

[half nacelle]

By the way, I think I'll add that as an option for the game - (I'm kidding, I'm already at a point where 4 more subpacks and my shader will be 1 GB).

[rancid seal]

Shader? Do you create shaders? You had one for java iirc, didn't you?

[half nacelle]

(I don't know how to use options in the manifest, nor how to maintain the PBR and textures without including them as subpacks, or without having to remove subpacks for example.)

[rancid seal]

They won't help, don't worry

[half nacelle]

I create Bedrock shaders and I "ported" mine from Bedrock to Java using Mellow.

[half nacelle]

NOOOOOOOO😭😭😭🙏🙏🙏

[willow needle]

I know, because this vanilla realistic

[rancid seal]

You use minectaft patched, right?

[half nacelle]

No?

[rancid seal]

How do you load shaders to the game? Just changing material bins?

[half nacelle]

Even if I wanted to, there's no app for me to make shaders for Patched Minecraft on my phone.

[half nacelle]

Oh, that? I don't use Minecraft Patched, I only watch videos with Minecraft Patched shaders.

I have it installed, but I never get around to using it.

[rancid seal]

You told me you had shader with subpacks so how do you load the shader to the game? 🥀

[half nacelle]

Actually, I mostly play Java itself via the Launcher because I love volumetric clouds and Java's PBR

[half nacelle]

Bro, Vibrant Visuals exists💔🥀

Oh, you're literally talking about shaders?

☠️

[willow needle]

because not everyone likes our style, but that's okay

[half nacelle]

Holy peak

[rancid seal]

You told you have a shader, not a vv resource pack...

[half nacelle]

Remove the stars and it'll be perfect.

[rancid seal]

This one looks cool for me, great job

[half nacelle]

Technically it will be, once my laziness allows me to do the DOF via JS.

[rancid seal]

So do you have a vv pack or the shader? Im confused

[half nacelle]

VV Pack bro

[rancid seal]

Callling vv packs shaders = bullying me

😭 😭 😭

-# ||Same with rtx packs||

[half nacelle]

VV PACKS IS SHADERS

||js joking||

[rancid seal]

Uhh may i ask what do you do for simulating dof?

I mean how do you blur stuff

[half nacelle]

-# ||So you just put a line through the #? I learned again yay||

[half nacelle]

I'm replacing the blocks instead of blurring them.

And also a bit of mipmap trickery.

[blazing whale]

then how our team used a different method in making normalmap but was blamed without asking the concept 🗿

[rancid seal]

Huh wtf

[half nacelle]

Raycasting, custom block, "Batch", Frustum Culling, eye and player position and Frustum Culling area are the secrets of the code in summary.

[half nacelle]

And manipulation of the texture resolution of the blocks and the mipmap, as I said.

The problem is that the bugs just don't stop ☠️🙏
And it's only working in preview mode for some reason, maybe it's the amount of resources I'm using on js or smth like that.

[rancid seal]

I feel i could have done a lot of interesring things like that for ray tracing, i mean via add-ons. Of course, i will kto do that, as there is a chabce that if i start the project, everthing will be ruined in seconds! Or it is easier to combine all stuff to ome project and to present it like it is beand new rtx project something something... Lol.

[rancid seal]

Maybe scripting api stuff.

[half nacelle]

Btw using the same logic you can do many things like volumetric clouds with particle duplication, etc., etc.

[blazing whale]

For people who don't really understand normalmap, this is definitely considered wrong, but it's actually still correct. 🙃

[rancid seal]

It is not going to work for raytracing, since particles are not ray traced, so this is no case for me. I prefer doing bug fix styled addons

[half nacelle]

I think it's correct, but it looks like paper.

[rancid seal]

For now

[half nacelle]

It's for optimization.

The volumetric cloud itself is a duplication of particles.

[blazing whale]

Because dont have pom

[half nacelle]

Ur right

Ngl

[rancid seal]

For some people it would be strange to see default minecraft textures with some high resolution normal maps i think 😅

[rancid seal]

Clouds are volumetric by default in vv and rtx

[half nacelle]

Try converting the heightmaps of the creeper drawings, etc., into normalmaps as well. That will probably remove the paper texture and make the normal map bigger; each crack is too tiny.

[blazing whale]

Yes, but it doesn't matter because every creator is unique and cannot be compared.

[half nacelle]

VV's are a carpet

[rancid seal]

The best way of making clouds is by doing it via noise.

The most comforable way for me is:

1. Crearing empty cloud.
2. Crraring a seed for the cloud.
3. Getting noise value using x and z coordinates, and y for cloud levels.
4. Doing smth eith the value to create good cloud.
   I didn't do it before, but this is going to be the first thing i will try to do in rtx in the closest future. I also think this will cause huge stability issues and it will be laggy as well.

[rancid seal]

Well yea, everyone has their own taste, and of course it is completely normal problem when some people dont like some projects, for example.

[half nacelle]

-# ||I feel strange for not explaining, so I'll explain anyway. Basically, it's to measure when the player is looking at the sky, whether minimally or not.||
-# ||This is used to measure when to create volumetric clouds per particle or not; if this doesn't exist, not every cell phone will be able to handle it since there are many particles in batch loading and reloading per tick.|| ||And I think it's obvious here, bcs there are at least 10 clouds scattered across the entire sky with at least 5 duplicate particles changing color due to weather, etc., etc.||

[rancid seal]

Altough the only thing when the creators can be compared is like when you get scammed or not getting scammed when using project

[half nacelle]

Is it possible to do this in Bedrock's JS? ☠️🙏

[rancid seal]

I feel like it IS. Calculating noise should be fine, rednering cloud xan be done via small cubes, for exampe. You just need to be clever enough to control clihds position and making stuff being calculated correctly

Tjere is one problem about this

If you do those kind of clouds, they will statt disapeparing very fast in close distances because bedrock is a limited as hell

So more calculations will he required. And i think im hell not doing this

[half nacelle]

Frustum culling is key, just by placing it around the player's field of vision, I believe, or also using a high noise resolution.

[rancid seal]

Entities don't redner when you are not looking st them so pretty much good

[rancid seal]

It is not rewuired for me, as entities automatically disappear when they are out of players view

And its good they are

[blazing whale]

Yes, it's normal if you just don't like it personally and don't blame it absolutely (because there are people who do that)

[rancid seal]

I get blamed evey day cuz mcpedl had rsting system

Rating*

Or even better to say ratting

As people like auromatically set random marks to ur pack, even if you dont try them

[rancid seal]

Btw it will be possible to get clouds farlands if you do that🗿

Ik it sounds strange but kinda yeah

If you use the technique of doing clouds ive suggested

[white willow]

in my opinion its only super viable to do handmade at low res. its not worth it at higher res. normals are complicated and its super hard to handle how they work with hand drawing at high res

handmade 16x goes crazy when done right

generated 16x is kinda mid

unless you REALLY know what youre doing

[willow needle]

That true

[rancid seal]

I usually geberate normal kap from height map in aadobe photopshop when workong eith hihh res textures

[willow needle]

2048x with handmade normalmap :v

[rancid seal]

I hate typing with screen keyboard, sorry for that amount of mistakes

[white willow]

sounds awful lol

the reason generating at high res is fine is because theres more than enough pixel data to easily generate accurate normals

[rancid seal]

The entire 2048x resource pack wtih handmade everything maybe

It oeuld be intereeting to use one

Would*

[half nacelle]

Ts isn't the normal?

[rancid seal]

Too silent here right now... I am gonna go to sleep

[half nacelle]

It's for optimization, the player isn't even seeing that anymore ☠️🙏

[rancid seal]

It is good, as it is betge for the performance

[half nacelle]

And how does this affect volumetric noise clouds?

Or did I misinterpret it?

[rancid seal]

The only bad thing is that you see those entities disappearing in relfections

[willow needle]

For a simple theme, for example like this, it's still suitable, but 2048x is excessive for a texture like this.

[rancid seal]

If we are doing them in the way i have suggested (with using entities for visualization, kidna the only thing for default rtx with the add-on), this is just betger for the perormance but will make you loose some shadows and other details sometimes.

[rancid seal]

Do i see pom?

[willow needle]

Yes real pom

[half nacelle]

Just create a basic shadow persistence effect; all clouds generated around the player will be up to a maximum of 12 chunks, or more if needed. If the player goes completely outside this area, no shadow will be generated from it.

[half nacelle]

Yes, I know rendering takes a long time for a JavaScript file, but you can just do a simple manual batch job on a tick basis and render it. Since it's on a tick basis, you won't be sending all the data directly to the CPU.

It will take longer to render, but it will work.

[rancid seal]

This is not something i will be able to control. Theu all disappear when not looking at them

[half nacelle]

And if it doesn't work, render a shadow only for the part that is in that region.

[rancid seal]

Sometimes i think you don't know what ray tracing is

[half nacelle]

Frustum Culling allows this; just leave a margin behind the player, and it will create a natural fade-in/fade-out effect.

The problem is cutting things up; that's the only problem I won't know how to solve.

[rancid seal]

You cannot simply render shadow in the way you want

You need to have the entire object to do shadows

[half nacelle]

Shadows can be particles, if they are from clouds.

[rancid seal]

Not the case for rtx this time

[half nacelle]

Or are you going to keep the Minecraft Bedrock carpet clouds linked along with the volumetric clouds? It's going to bug everything.

[scarlet gust]

By the way, ItsDrCat recently switched from ACES to Hable.

[half nacelle]

Were you talking about RTX? I'm talking about the cloud as a Resource Pack ☠️🙏

[silent zealot]

Who?

[rancid seal]

You can simply use one pixel completely transparent texture to remove them what

[silent zealot]

And how does this relate to me?

[half nacelle]

RTX could have compatibility with Resource Packs, by the way.

[rancid seal]

Of course i do. My life is in rtx

Even my brains are ray traced

[scarlet gust]

The creator of Cat RTX and Cat Visuals.

[half nacelle]

So you're not living in real life, since real life uses path tracing.

[rancid seal]

What you ahve described is still kot the case for rtx. You cant force ntohing to drop shadow

[rancid seal]

Real life uses real life tho

[silent zealot]

And how does this relate to me?

[half nacelle]

Technically path tracing, since it involves multiple rays of sunlight manually tracing a path without predicting 100% accuracy.

But naturally

[rancid seal]

Powered by physics

[half nacelle]

Powered by all technologies of PBR

[rancid seal]

We don't have rendering in real life lol

[half nacelle]

Technically I'm talking about texture lol

And yes, we have to consider that it's the eye-

[rancid seal]

PBR - physically based rednering

Rendering

[half nacelle]

It's meant to indicate that it's a rendering of the physics in the texture of the blocks.

I should spend less time on Ray Tracing and learn more about other technologies btw

[rancid seal]

Im jot sure if there is a piint in learning ray tracint at all...
Like, rays are being traced. All

[half nacelle]

A folded rug, for example, is physics in the texture of the block.

[half nacelle]

Technically yes, but it's not Ray Tracing, it's Path Tracing.

Ray tracing is path tracing, but optimized, predicting what's behind a tree, for example, in theory.

How light spreads, etc., etc.

[rancid seal]

Also, if we can still speak about clouds, id like to go back to the messgae i think you haven't noticed, but i hope you did

If you do realistic cliuds using noise, there is a chabce you will be able to get clouds farlands.

[half nacelle]

What are cloud farlands?

[rancid seal]

Cloud will nsuddenly stretch and repeat its pattern

Almost like you had in minecraft beta with regular farlands i think

Almost, jot exactly, of course

[half nacelle]

Technically, the noise will appear and disappear, so it will be virtually impossible to repair when you repeat it.

[blazing whale]

hooray pawslight unban me 🗿

[half nacelle]

Or you can use just one tile.

[rancid seal]

Of course noise issues are going to be different, always being dependent on the way you use it and geberate realistic looking clouds

[rancid seal]

[half nacelle]

That's why it would be more practical, although it would be heavier, to do it via particles.

But if someone ever wants to do it via noise

I'm going out by the way, it's at 9% and my phone is already getting burn-in from being on the same screen for so long.

I'll wait until you finish typing, btw, I want to see the message.

Or the Bible, too, since I wouldn't doubt it given the delay.

[rancid seal]

For exampel, i use derault way of generating noise.

Getting very big number, uhhh... xyz*sin(seed)
And i don't remember how but getting a value from -1 to 1. For y you set valies for clouds layers. The noise isnt hard to be calculated imo. This kind of noise generation isnt very good, bit it is just simple and easy. You can use it to generate multiple values for the cloud. Of course, you should still keep your eye on overflowing. Numbers shouldn't be big or clouds farlands will happen

[rancid seal]

You mean just particle with the cloud texture?

[half nacelle]

Ya

Create a particle with a cloud texture and duplicate one on top of the other.

The problem is at the top of the cloud; that's the problem I still don't know how to solve.

[rancid seal]

They all are going to look similar, and even if you add multiple textures, pkayers will notice texture ate getting repeated again and again. Anyojer problem.

I am going to sleep right now, as i am really tried and managed to burn my left hand while cooking porridge, ill be back very very soon i hope.

[sonic canopy]

Molang driven VV configs 🙏

(it will never happen)

[silent zealot]

Unfortunately true

I would be more willing tbh if pack settings were supported even if we have to define it as key/value like sounds.json for variants.

[severe grove]

Best VV Pack for me:
1.Chroma Visual (it only early acces but it look promising and have an potentional, i never try it yet. And i want it so bad)
2. Luminous Dream (this VV pack tonemapping was really good for me, and the sky look very realistic)
3.Vibrant Legacy Simple (It was very good, since it have so many option to us set what do we want, Simple but calming)
4.Vanilla Vibrant Visual (By Cubeir, creator of Vanilla RTX. It was like vamilla by mojang but enhanced so it was very very good but still keep the vanilla enssentional)
5.Prizma Visual (it was good, realistic but not for me. I don't like the Pinky atmospheric but it was a subjective thing.)

[silent zealot]

Isnt chroma on the Marketplace? I dont think that counts as early access.

[severe grove]

Yes it is, but it was released yesterday, it wasn't a early access? I didn't know that

[blazing whale]

Just wait new strawberry 🙂

[rancid seal]

Idk

[severe grove]

Looks weird, but looks cool at the same time

[severe grove]

Alright

[half nacelle]

Mine too 🔥🥵 (just kidding)

(btw one day i'll make mine in the top 5)

[tribal trail]

🧐

[rancid seal]

Yes

[tribal trail]

why blocks are so weird?

[rancid seal]

Because I want them to be weird

[tribal trail]

but how

why and how

[rancid seal]

blockshapes

[tribal trail]

huh

what block shape

[rancid seal]

water

[tribal trail]

oh

uh

huh

[rancid seal]

Its kinda cool but its extremely broken

[loud pilot]

leaves are probably the most normal looking thing with that enabled

everything else just has too harsh edges

[rancid seal]

I use it for powder snow too

[quasi trench]

what is this from

[willow needle]

Strawberry

[wise hinge]

Apple

[blazing whale]

Milk

[rancid seal]

Orange

[blazing whale]

Cherry

[rancid seal]

Banana

[limpid sequoia]

Palm

[rancid seal]

Cat tracing

[limpid sequoia]

doggy_smurk, dawg_smurk tracing

[rancid seal]

HELL YEAH

[rancid seal]

That's not :doggy_smurk: ...

[limpid sequoia]

[limpid sequoia]

[rancid seal]

[rancid seal]

I have doggysmurk_alt btw

[limpid sequoia]

[rancid seal]

Here it is:

[limpid sequoia]

🫃

i'm pregnant

[earnest sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-blinkingcat-cute-funny-gif-8859604814399687515

[limpid sequoia]

[severe grove]

Mango

[limpid sequoia]

Mangosteen

[severe grove]

Melon

[rancid seal]

Watermelon

🗿

[severe grove]

Grapes

[rancid seal]

Sugar cane

[limpid sequoia]

this is better

when i got bad result in my exam my mom will give me this:

[humble drift]

Watermelon ?

[limpid sequoia]

no 🗿

[humble drift]

sad

[rancid seal]

Ok

[limpid sequoia]

[rancid seal]

[limpid sequoia]

[rancid seal]

:doggysmurk_alt:

Wait

What

[limpid sequoia]

use to summon me

[rancid seal]

Why my doggy smurk alt not working

[rancid seal]

Its working

[limpid sequoia]

[rancid seal]

There is one thing with both dont have

It is :doggy_smurk:

[limpid sequoia]

[rancid seal]

GI

||vv doesn't have one ||

[half nacelle]

Yes 😭🙏

Finally yes

Consistent godrays

Before btw (some places still are ☠️🙏)

[willow needle]

if it's in this dense forest it's pretty good

[willow needle]

Chill vibe

[willow needle]

Strong gi

[limpid sequoia]

☺️☺️☺️

[half nacelle]

Common forest's and ambients

[willow needle]

it's okay if you like it that

Still look good without fog

[severe grove]

https://youtu.be/UxeTGoCQOrk?si=7mJYSTKCxtTjRCPL

This one is very cool

[severe grove]

Yooo cool

[limpid sequoia]

"cloud_lighting_enabled": false

@blazing whale

[blazing whale]

nah bug from code, thank for information

[rancid seal]

I really wonder how you manage to do that like wtf

Fogs are easy arent they

[wise hinge]

[blazing whale]

sunset?

[limpid sequoia]

yes, at 12000

[half nacelle]

I prefer it without fog, adjust it to look better with fog 😡

Js joking

[willow needle]

Just kidding :v

[half nacelle]

For some reason, it's difficult for me.

What is the point of atmospherics not being called atmospherics_configuration and only atmospherics in the JSON Mojang?! 😡

[half nacelle]

It simply doesn't make sense, it's literally an atmospheric setting, what's the point of that????😡

[limpid sequoia]

-# i've spammed a lot of pics today, my apologise, excuse me

[rancid seal]

Vv has a lot of configs... :3

Rtx like doesnt

But its not bad

Why do i need atmospheric settings if i can do the same stuff with fog

[half nacelle]

Wdu (What do U) think?

Atmospheric, a t m o s p h e r i c

☠️🙏

[rancid seal]

Im in crowded bus trying not to fall

[half nacelle]

Lowkey ts could already be watermarked.

[half nacelle]

It's similar to Brazil, but it's hell worse here-

[rancid seal]

I bet no lol

[half nacelle]

What's wrong with the bus of u gys? (Why are we comparing this like it's a trophy, btw? ☠️🙏

[rancid seal]

Idk

[half nacelle]

-# "Onibus" i said ☠️🙏

[half nacelle]

Btw respond now 😡

-# It's not because my curiosity is about to explode ☠️🙏

-# What the hell did you send in Russian?

[rancid seal]

Im trying to survive like uhh

[half nacelle]

By the way, in Brazil every day there are buses clogged with screws, all smashed up, with the rare ones having air conditioning dripping, and so on.

That's normal, or if you're lucky, because sometimes you get buses that are more than 10 years old, and even with the wheels visible through the seat area btw

[willow needle]

Look nice

[wise hinge]

i hope so

[ripe fern]

Hi guys does anyone knows what is padding in terrain_texture.json

{
    "num_mip_levels" : 2,
    "padding" : 8,
    "texture_name": "atlas.terrain"
}```

[silent zealot]

https://wiki.bedrock.dev/concepts/texture-atlases#padding

[ripe fern]

Thank you a lot

[severe grove]

The shadow looks very good

[severe grove]

Sir, where can i get this VV pack?

[wise hinge]

somewhere

[willow needle]

Hi

[limpid sequoia]

hi there

[wise hinge]

i hope vv clouds support transparency someday💔

[blazing whale]

I hope mojang can fix how the light penetrates the clouds (clouds adjust to lighting)

[rancid seal]

Hi

[wise hinge]

wym?

[blazing whale]

It has been explained before but it has been covered up

[wise hinge]

[limpid sequoia]

just hate the clouds so i turned it off

[wise hinge]

correct

[rancid seal]

No clouds perfect

Its good for rtx too ig

[limpid sequoia]

[limpid sequoia]

of course

[rancid seal]

[limpid sequoia]

[wise hinge]

doggy general

[rancid seal]

Still can't use doggy smurk alt cuz discord is bugcord

:doggysmurk_alt:

[limpid sequoia]

lmao

[limpid sequoia]

[rancid seal]

I have 108 duplicates of

[limpid sequoia]

yasss

[rancid seal]

White and black sheep cool

[limpid sequoia]

yeah! BoB is really cool

[rancid seal]

I remember fixing bob bugs by myself back then

The most annoying one was crafting menu not working for custom crafting tables, or broken entity configs

[limpid sequoia]

sad

[rancid seal]

Block game good

[limpid sequoia]

[rancid seal]

Bro is 4 hours above me 😭

[limpid sequoia]

tomorrow is Sunday and i have to to to Church

[rancid seal]

To-to-to :3

Well, i dont remmber when i was last time in it :<

[limpid sequoia]

oh nah

🗿

-# i'm Christian and i often go to Church every Sunday

[rancid seal]

Oh, ok

[hardy island]

Look at how low res is this fog ranned in (quarter res?)

[half nacelle]

33% of resolution

Of 2400x1080

[hardy island]

Make sense

[half nacelle]

But i think it's very good

Ngl

[hardy island]

No it isnt

[half nacelle]

33% of resolution is highkey good for me

[hardy island]

VV is good, just need a lot of optimization

[hardy island]

At least 50 man..

[half nacelle]

Btw on java it's worse

[half nacelle]

I don't want to spoil the art of the vibrant visuals in the resource packs by removing particles bro....

[hardy island]

It's like running 792x594 pixel

[hardy island]

Bruh, you dont need ultra settings, even high is decent

[half nacelle]

50% of resolution + 0.33 on RenderScale + 4:3 stretched on Rescale

[half nacelle]

I need god rays and reflections.

[hardy island]

Oh my god, thats why

[half nacelle]

I NEED IT

[hardy island]

It looks so pixellated

[half nacelle]

I don't even know how it's working, it's at less than 10% resolution 😭🙏

[half nacelle]

It would be worse without rescale

Extremely worse

You wouldn't want to see it.

[hardy island]

Yeah, that means you got only like what? 396 x 297 pixels only to work with

[half nacelle]

Ya

[hardy island]

Thats INSANELY low

[half nacelle]

It's the fault of the Zalith Launcher creators, WHAT'S THE POINT OF A HELIO G81 RUNNING BLISS AT 200+ CHUNKS WITH DISTANT HORIZONS SMOOTHLY 😭🙏

[hardy island]

Thats why VL fogs looks so pixellated, VL fogs run at half-resolution at ultra settings, it means that 198 x 148.5 resolution only for VL fogs

[half nacelle]

Ya

But i like it

[hardy island]

??? No mobile phone can run bliss and distant horizon with actual playable framerates

[half nacelle]

R u sure?

Btw i'm the living proof of that

So no

Incredibly

Probably isn't fake

Btw the extra chunks isn't generated

The maximium

Is 256

On cellphones

@hardy island So don't freak out.

It's ok

[hardy island]

This is fake yk? I mean, bliss is pretty heavy and VRAM is a limiting factor to mobile phones, not to mention the distance is pretty crazy too. This is just windows recorded with a FPS limiter, and then just use shader and tune up the FPS limiter to infinite

[hardy island]

I wont since its fake

I mean, if you can distant horizon sure, but with shaders? Im not really sure with that

[half nacelle]

If u think

[half nacelle]

Firstly, as I said, due to this limit, the maximum number of chunks generated is 256, so the extra simply doesn't exist; it's like a deception.

Bliss is quite demanding, but if you knew the overall emulation landscape, you'd know that even Red Dead Redemption can run on ultra settings, meaning it's truly demanding to the point of being considered fake or impossible is SEUS PTGI HRR

[half nacelle]

Ultra no, play with the graphics on high, but you get the idea.

Btw js runs DH in the alpha versions for some reason

Probably library

Or smth like that

[half nacelle]

Like, you can open and run the SEUS PTGI HRR shader, but your phone's RAM will die quickly, and I think in terms of FPS it's almost impossible to stay playable in 256 chunks in DH + SEUS PTGI HRR shaders. Even if only for a moment.

SEUS PTGI HRR IS THE NAME OF A SHADER GBOARD😭🙏

Btw, it's probably fake, but some are real. It's js a example.

It has already been proven that most of the videos are fake, although some of them are incredibly real.

[sonic canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/ken-jeong-what-is-this-i-cant-see-little-eyes-blurred-vision-gif-15659043

[tribal trail]

No refraction on minecraft live :(

[wise hinge]

[scarlet gust]

It has existed since 2020 btw.

[tribal trail]

vibrant visuals doesn't exist since 2020

[tribal trail]

are you blind?

besides why would i talk about MCRTX when i don't use it and don't like it

make it make sense

[scarlet gust]

Then why are you a BetterRTX dev?

[tribal trail]

have you seen me working on betterrtx after 2025?

my preset is dead for a long time

[scarlet gust]

Your video is very niche and targeted directly at the Helio G99, and it's also very broad when it says "How to fix lag" when you're talking specifically about Minecraft, as well as the fact that "How to fix lag" doesn't appear until several seconds later, as well as bad text animations, so your video is basically doomed to fail.

[half nacelle]

Bcs it's a Helio G99?

"How to fix lag" is a joke btw

[half nacelle]

Ik but that's not my vídeo

And

Js for be a Helio G99

Make that's videos famous as shit

[hardy island]

11 FPS with that kind of low resolution is just not worth it

[half nacelle]

(Maximum resolution with RenderScale at 0.5 and Rescale ratio 4:3 btw)

[hardy island]

There is no way that is half-resolution of your screen resolution

[half nacelle]

2400X1080

Technically, this is the resolution of the chunks, not the screen.

[hardy island]

??? That is not the resolution of the chunks.. that is your screen resolution, the end resolution of using 0.5 scale and 4:3 ratio from 2400x1080 is just 720x540, which is very low and is not playable at all

[half nacelle]

It's high key playable

You guys are used to playing on a top-of-the-line gaming PC.

Ts is still great resolution, back in the day I used to play games on my J5, this was lagging like crazy, and without even complaining i used to play and have fun.

[hardy island]

Back in the day, they used CRT which gives you free anti aliasing, making it look way better than that resolution

[hardy island]

I'm just saying, forcing Bliss to run on a Helio G99, distant horizon at 256 chunks is just too forced and shouldnt be playable anyway

[hardy island]

I myself have an integrated GPU that is WORSER than mobile phone GPUs, and I still think its just too overkill

[half nacelle]

Hell nahhh

[hardy island]

Wdym hell nah?

[half nacelle]

Even if it was

These are native games for y'all

[hardy island]

Search up UHD 620 and compare them with mobile GPUs with emulators and compare it with the same game

[half nacelle]

You'd need an old Pentium for that.

[half nacelle]

I see videos of people running shaders on java 3x better on the same GPU.

Heavy shaders

Very heavy shaders

[hardy island]

???

[half nacelle]

Like Eclipse

[hardy island]

Youre just making things up at this point

[hardy island]

No, this iGPU is a decade old (im pretty sure you know how OLD it is) and its server for the low ends, and you must also know that a basic Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 would just demolishes this thing

[hardy island]

I mean, if youre running them at 200x100 px yeah, "playable"

[limpid sequoia]

Dead chat

[wind pollen]

[limpid sequoia]

[wind pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/pusheen-pusheen-cat-pusheen-cute-pusheen-sleep-pusheen-funny-gif-14593313780377947633

[limpid sequoia]

[wind pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/null-baldi-baldi-basic-jumpscare-gameover-gif-27336392

[limpid sequoia]

[limpid sequoia]

dead chat

[wise hinge]

ice normal!

[blazing whale]

Ice cream

[blazing whale]

🗿

[limpid sequoia]

🗿

[rancid seal]

[limpid sequoia]

My PC left me

i can't live without it so... i won't go to college tomorrow although i have an english class to bring it to warranty center to repair it

[rancid seal]

My is still alive, eventhough it kinda shouldn't

[rancid seal]

Do u need to buy some ram???

[limpid sequoia]

i don't need man:)

just BIOS issue

[rancid seal]

Ohh yep turning off pc while bios update is so fun

(I know you didn't)

[limpid sequoia]

no man, my PC died after installed Linux with an USB

my pc got bootloop before

[rancid seal]

Why did you install linux? Or at least was trying to

[limpid sequoia]

i tried install Linux 4 times already

my previous pc is dead so i got a new one

with same model

they said: Just RAM issue boy 🗿

[rancid seal]

Lol

[limpid sequoia]

but it is not

they're have no knowlege about technical

[mint cloud]

what kind of distro are you trying to install? it shouldnt have any issues at all.

[rancid seal]

"boy"? You are older than me but like no one calls me in this way, what

🗿

[limpid sequoia]

i've tried to install Pop_OS!

i installed Ubuntu before and it is really good

it just took me a few hours to install the drivers

[mint cloud]

you could give cachyOS a try as it should install the required drivers your PC has, plus you can choose desktop in a setup menu.

it's a gaming/desktop originated Arch-based OS yeah, should work fairly well and alot better. but if that doesn't work or if you want more stable linux OS, go for debian.

though i wouldn't use linux for bedrock stuff though tbh

[limpid sequoia]

i got it, thank you very much

[blazing whale]

Night

[pale urchin]

That is indeed night

[pale urchin]

Hey can I ask you something?

[blazing whale]

I mean it only shows night

[pale urchin]

Just messing around a bit 😄

[pale urchin]

So I wanted to talk about the end.

[blazing whale]

Yes

[pale urchin]

Have you seen chroma visuals?

a resource pack on the marketplace

[blazing whale]

Yes

[pale urchin]

I liked how they handled the end. best one out of all marketplace packs imo. what are your thoughts on VV packs' approach to the end dimension?

[white willow]

What did they do?

[blazing whale]

I think it's good

[quick beacon]

They had like custom particles and stuff in there afaik

Client player entity and client side animations which I think handled those. I could be wrong

[pale urchin]

The sky is starry and has a purple gradient. the lighting is purple but not too saturated. and when there's a light, aurora-like particles appear

[quick beacon]

I will say it's pretty neat

[pale urchin]

imo the particles are icing on the cake. I tried with actions and stuff which disabled particles, and even then it was still good

Every other pack I've seen with the end we're really basic, or had values that were a tad too extreme

[quick beacon]

I haven't went to work on the end in LD yet, but I plan to get to it later this week

[pale urchin]

If I have any criticism for chroma visuals' end, I think the sky has a little too many stars.

[white willow]

I mean it does also come down to most packs are made by one person with very limited knowledge of all of bedrocks systems whereas chroma was likely made by a team with different skillsets

(Talking about particles and sky here)

[quick beacon]

It was indeed made by a team

I'll give it to them. The particle stuff was deffs not easy to pull off

[pale urchin]

I understand the situation the other packs are in. doesn't really change the fact that chroma's end has the most going on, even without particles

[white willow]

For sure, I'm not trying to downplay it

I'm just saying it's advanced cuz they have resources others don't

(Not a bad thing)

[quick beacon]

I knew it could be done through resource packs because of client animations, but I guess not many people know about the fact you can use the client player file without it breaking persona and all

[pale urchin]

Yeah, it's too bad we can't have some sort of global particle system separate from the player

[quick beacon]

Yeah :<

[pale urchin]

When I saw that you could change precipation in biomes, my first thought is that they should datadrive it

It sucks that the only options are the nether particles

[white willow]

Oh I guess while it's on my mind, not sure if it's actions and stuff exclusive or player animations related but the first person shadow gets majorly messed up with A&S active

[quick beacon]

Oh I saw your message about it. I am not sure why that happens but if I had to guess, it could be the animations or render controllers? I don't think it's the model.

[white willow]

I've never seen it before so I couldn't say what it is

[silent zealot]

Im so glad they moved it to client intsead of server pre C&C

Too bad its still hardcoded yeah.

[white willow]

It's not the most noticeable with pixelated shadows but with soft shadows it's really bad

I don't think prizma has this issue so it may not be animations related

But I haven't tried it so idk

[quick beacon]

it might be render controllers, but I could be wrong

[silent zealot]

Soft shadows

Truly sucks pack settings cant be used for VV.

Im not making 10 subpacks for every combo of tonemapper + shadow type

[pale urchin]

more reason to have molang support

[silent zealot]

Even if not molang support like how sounds.json does it, a key/value pair.

I would love to be able to ship this out without making 5 subpacks.

[white willow]

Just for comparison sake. Actions and stuff on, actions and stuff off

[quick beacon]

Looks like I need glasses

[white willow]

It's worse in motion

[pale urchin]

does actions and stuff have pixelated shadows?

[white willow]

Pixel shadows have their own issues too. Due to not having any sofenting, they look terrible at anything that's not a 0 degree sun.

[white willow]

I did testing and that didn't cause any conflicts

But yes it does

[pale urchin]

Oh hi Veka

[silent zealot]

Never said they didn't, but I much prefer pixelated. Plus I can create this atrocity

[sonic canopy]

Maybe it has to do with geometry visible bounds. Perhaps one of the player geos used in a&s has very large bounds, so the game is forced to render the player smaller, to make sure it fully fits in the player shadowmap texture

Smaller texture means shadow filtering blurs it much more

[white willow]

Hm that makes sense

[pale urchin]

If only the blur was resolution independent

unless that introduces other problems?

[white willow]

16x shadows look mostly fine but man are the higher texel size shadows so bad 😭

[silent zealot]

I love how cursed it looks lmao

[white willow]

Like it looks like it should just be hard shadows but I feel like the soft shadows method without the softening applied would look better 😭

But it does make for some cursed stuff

Also on the topic of shadows one thing always bugged me about the shadow configs

From my experience working with cascaded shadows in Unity for example, it would make sense for the first cascade to have the sharpest shadows no?

In the configs, mojang do it in reverse

First cascade has the softest and it gets sharper with distance

That makes no sense to me

[rancid seal]

Its a perfect opportunity to drop rtx screenshot right now

[white willow]

It just makes close shadows looks like mush

[sonic canopy]

Here's player shadowmap with and without a&s. Highlighted selection box shows the size of a single pixel on the texture. No wonder it looks so blurry

[white willow]

Is the left one actions

Or is that default

[sonic canopy]

Left is a&s

[white willow]

So there's just a lot less spread out pixels to work with

[pale urchin]

Honestly that makes sense to me. lower resolutions should have less blur

To make it consistent

[white willow]

Idk. I've always tried to optimize the first cascade for the best sharpness and detail since that's what's directly in your face.

[sonic canopy]

Yeah, player geometry is just smaller on the shadowmap with a&s enabled, so it is represented with less pixels and looks as if the shadowmap has lower resolution

[white willow]

While technically the softer shadow is higher detail PCF filtering just sucks for softness shadows. PCSS imo is quite necessary if that's what they want to do

ultra to the average user looks worse than high because of how pcf widths are handled

[pale urchin]

Yeah that I never really understood. Higher shadow quality shouldn't mean blurrier shadows. They should remain consistent between each setting

[white willow]

Yea the differences don't even have to be resolution

Like ultra can just have tighter cascade distances for better details, much increased shadow range (the 128 block limit baffles me. Cascaded shadowmaps are good for distance shadows 😭😭😭). And also better bias options

In unity I got away with a big map and 3000 meter shadow range with minimal performance impact with well tuned cascades

I understand limited shadow ranges for mobile but like console/pc can handle it. There's literally games with raytracing on those.

Optimizing VV I understand is a very huge task because of the what like 13 different platforms

A lot of the other platforms feel kneecapped by mobile restrictions

[loud pilot]

Curious what you're referring to here, i haven't seen any issues

[white willow]

The first person shadow is significantly lower resolution with actions and stuff on compared to other packs while using soft shadows. It is still noticeable with pixel shadows but much less problematic

[loud pilot]

Just read the rest of the convo, i might experiment a bit to see if it's fixable

although, im not very knowledgable on the graphics side of things, so i doubt i'll find anything

[white willow]

Left has actions and stuff. Here's two videos showing the difference if that helps at all

I am using mobile here but it's not platform specific. Happens on any

[long ruin]

I've noticed that too

I thought it was some type of thing to save performance

[loud pilot]

it does seem like it has something to do with the custom geos, disabling them has way better soft shadows

[rancid seal]

Find a creeper

[loud pilot]

clearly right here

[rancid seal]

no

[loud pilot]

looks like a creeper to me ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[vivid bolt]

No this guy is about to explode

[faint frigate]

Found it!

[rancid seal]

Prove it

[pale urchin]

I found it too!

[faint frigate]

⚠️ Spoiler warning ⚠️.
Don't click if you want to find the creeper yoursellf

[rancid seal]

I should have probably wait until 2 pixel are the only things visible

[severe grove]

What is your GPU bro? RTX?

[limpid sequoia]

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 of course

[severe grove]

Oh cool

Vram?

[limpid sequoia]

and AMD Ryzen 5500

[limpid sequoia]

6

[severe grove]

Yoo my pc have it too!

[limpid sequoia]

because my pc is hybird-graphics

[severe grove]

Mine has Ryzen 5500, and RX 570 4gb

[limpid sequoia]

oh sorry, mine is AMD Ryzen 5 6600 Series