Graphics General

[sonic canopy]

With

{
   "materials" : []
}```

[long ruin]

Hmmm what do you think it could be

[white willow]

the new configs are definitely easier to go through

especially cuz they are named correctly

[limpid sequoia]

🗿

[quasi trench]

it’s beautiful

[white willow]

playing minecraft the way god intended (the TAA fixes this update are very welcome)

this was mainly to test how the taa jitter improvements looked which last time i did this, it was near unplayable with how bad the jitter was

[tribal trail]

it's a shame taau is still more blurry than it was few years ago

even when set to near native res

[white willow]

i still pray every day the fix that

[pale urchin]

surpisingly stable

[white willow]

yea. it was literally unusable at this low of a res last i did it so nice to see TAA get some fixes

i just wish it was sharper

[scarlet gust]

This looks terrible.

Why did you use Vibrant Visuals?

[white willow]

Something something I set the resolution to 0.06

[scarlet gust]

And why did you use TAA?

[white willow]

Uh... because mojang fixed some bugs with VVs TAA?? And to test the fixes I set the resolution stupidly low? And the fixes worked great?

And because VV only has TAA?

[scarlet gust]

Just use DLSS.
https://youtu.be/DKCyk3CeUFY

[white willow]

I can't with you

[scarlet gust]

Vibrant Visuals also has bilinear scaling.

[white willow]

And it's the worse option

Unless you play on a phone

[scarlet gust]

Vibrant Visuals needs a bicubic option in my opinion.

[white willow]

What is that gonna do

Enlighten me

[long ruin]

XD

Lmao just use DLSS 💔

I wish

[white willow]

Me: makes something intentionally bad for the sake of testing image stability.
Results: wow that's really stable
This kid: lmao it looks awful just use something the game doesn't have

[scarlet gust]

Bicubic is the non-linear version of bilinear.

Vibrant Visuals should also have lanczos upscaling in my opinion.

[white willow]

I don't think that has ever been used in real time games...

Lanzcos is pretty slow

[scarlet gust]

Mojunk should remove the trash upscalers and replace them with better alternatives.

[scarlet gust]

Then they should just use bicubic scaling.

[white willow]

I'm gonna be honest man. Bicubic kinda sucks with low res images

It's blurred to heck and back

TAA is at least clear

[scarlet gust]

Still better than bilinear and TAA.

[white willow]

I'm not having this conversation again

https://tenor.com/view/checked-out-gif-8139111214977286037

I'll let someone more mentally equipped handle this one chat

[long ruin]

[wise hinge]

[scarlet gust]

Weather forced Minecraft Bedrock Edition to use MetalFX upscaling, so you could probably force Minecraft Bedrock Edition to use DLSS.

[white willow]

No correction. He forced BEDROCK RTX to use metalFX.

RTX

SPECIFICALLY

[scarlet gust]

Could I possibly make native resolution in Bedrock RTX use DLAA instead of TAA?

[white willow]

Nope

DLAA literally doesn't work

You can force DLAA on and it won't work

[scarlet gust]

How did they get MetalFX to work?

[white willow]

You'll get black bars on your screen

[scarlet gust]

Wdym?

[white willow]

Weather is a genius. Weather is an insane programmer. They've been doing crazy stuff like getting bedrock actually working on Linux. That's how. They just know what they are doing

You yourself can't do it. No offense. None of us can

[white willow]

If you use something like DLSS tweaks to force DLAA instead of DLSS the game breaks

And you get black bars on the corners of your screen

Same thing happens if you force DLSS to use a higher render scale than intended (like using DLSS quality at 1440p.) minecrsft literally breaks if you do that

[scarlet gust]

Like this?

[limpid sequoia]

what's up

[wise ferry]

How to add mer for flipbook textures? Am I doing something wrong?

  "format_version": "1.21.30",
  "minecraft:texture_set": {
    "color": "brick_stove_on",
    "metalness_emissive_roughness_subsurface": "brick_stove_on_mer"
  }
}```

[wise ferry]

actually nevermind im stupid i named the file with mers 😭

[wise hinge]

[limpid sequoia]

[scarlet gust]

That's your texture_set.json config. Not your flipbook_textures.json config.

[inland vault]

Who even uses Temporal Anti-Aliaising these days....

[limpid sequoia]

[wise hinge]

i use fxaa

[limpid sequoia]

i use fax

:doggy_smurk:

[scarlet gust]

I use DLSS

[rancid seal]

The ceiling is up.

[rancid seal]

I don't think cactus itself should have subsurface scattering effect. It doesn't happen in real life, so I think you can leave it in case you focus on beauty.
My opinion

[limpid sequoia]

lmfao

[rancid seal]

lmfao

[limpid sequoia]

again

[rancid seal]

again

[rancid seal]

[limpid sequoia]

  "deferred_shading_parameters": {
    "block_light_indirect_contribution_multiplier": 0.05,
    "sky_light_indirect_contribution_multiplier": 0.25,
    "ibl_indirect_contribution_multiplier": 0.5,
    "volumetric_fog_min_ambient_value": 0.0,
    "emissive_brightness_multiplier": 1,
    "end_portal_emissive_multiplier": 1.0,
    "start_ibl_fade_light_level": 15,
    "end_ibl_fade_light_level": 12
  }
}```
@sonic canopy sorry for the ping!
I wonder that what can i do with those parameters?

[wind pollen]

[limpid sequoia]

just tried some custom materials

for bet-tuh cloud

that's fine innit

[sonic canopy]

Well idk, whatever you want to do with them Their names are quite self explanatory, so if you need to change any of the described values, you can do that with that config

Just in case tho

{
  "deferred_shading_parameters": {
    "block_light_indirect_contribution_multiplier": 0.05, // brightness of static lights
    "sky_light_indirect_contribution_multiplier": 0.25, // brightness of ambient sky light
    "ibl_indirect_contribution_multiplier": 0.5, // brightness of sky reflections
    "volumetric_fog_min_ambient_value": 0.0, // illumination of fog in complete darkness
    "emissive_brightness_multiplier": 1, // brightness of PBR texture emission
    "end_portal_emissive_multiplier": 1.0, // brightness of end portal emission
    "start_ibl_fade_light_level": 15, // light level when sky reflections start fading out
    "end_ibl_fade_light_level": 12 // light level when sky reflection fading reaches 0
  }
}```

[limpid sequoia]

thanks for your help ❤️

[rancid seal]

@limpid sequoia why did you send " " to my posts in bedrock graphics server and then deleted it?

[wind pollen]

[limpid sequoia]

[wise hinge]

:3

[limpid sequoia]

[willow needle]

Experiment on normalmap with RTX & VV (using 64x texture resolution)

[grizzled tree]

hello, Is it possible to dynamically change the skybox via the server?

[rancid seal]

@limpid sequoia I have a birthday tomorrow (already today for your time zone) 🥀

Will you play with Minecraft RTX as a present for me?

[iron moon]

Lol

[rancid seal]

8 minutes till my birthday

[quasi trench]

im curious to see if it’s accepted

[tribal trail]

Happy birthday

[grizzled mica]

i love the colours here!!

[limpid sequoia]

thank you

[blazing whale]

Strawberry Deferred HDR P3 (new update)

[limpid sequoia]

nice noon

[wise ferry]

How to make item not glow? Its off by default when placed but I want to keep the emitted color of the block when its "on". Is there a way to define for different block states?

    "format_version": "1.21.120",
    "minecraft:local_light_settings": {
        "rf:brick_stove": {
            "light_color": "#DFA21B",
            "light_type": "static_light"
        },
        "rf:nether_brick_stove": {
            "light_color": "#23C0C6",
            "light_type": "static_light"
    }
}```

[limpid sequoia]

[wise ferry]

so none? :<

[limpid sequoia]

yeah :vv

[wise ferry]

rip ig ill just turn the block state into a separate block

[blazing whale]

On my laptop with 60% srgb this a bit pale 🗿

[limpid sequoia]

sad

[rancid seal]

Thank you very much!

[wise hinge]

happy birthday :333

[rancid seal]

Thank you

[daring jewel]

Just change the identifier to the block state. It works with vanilla blocks like a furnace with just minecraft:furnace and minecraft:furnace_lit

[scarlet gust]

I have a 1080p 240Hz 100% sRGB 300-nits IPS monitor, but I'm considering a 1080p 380Hz 110% sRGB 400-nits IPS monitor.

[scarlet gust]

Why is your laptop in military time?

[scarlet gust]

Maybe try 16x normal maps.

[limpid sequoia]

i thought it was a custom block 🗿

[daring jewel]

It is, i just took the vanilla furnace as a example as it has a block state for not lit and a lit version

[limpid sequoia]

i see;)

[wise ferry]

WHAT!? I Just changed my scripts and json files 😭

but ty

[daring jewel]

Np

[scarlet gust]

Not my screenshot but I thought it was cool so I reposted it I guess

Credit to @zoren__2_4 for taking this screenshot

I don't take enough screenshots so I'm using other people's screenshots at this point

[severe grove]

Happy birthday!

[rancid seal]

Ty

[severe grove]

Can someone request me for an offline game, I'm bored of playing online games all the time?

[wind pollen]

[limpid sequoia]

❓

[blazing whale]

Noon

[limpid sequoia]

[wise hinge]

[limpid sequoia]

🫃

[wise hinge]

pumpkin.

[inland vault]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-thumbs-up-thumbs-up-cat-thumbs-up-meme-gif-5676038700371371386

[wise hinge]

[inland vault]

https://tenor.com/view/melvin-meme-cat-cat-meme-melvin-meme-meme-melvin-gif-5576245011655696514

[limpid sequoia]

thank you mate

[wise hinge]

/unblock /j

[inland vault]

-# i don't think he'd do that

[wise hinge]

[blazing whale]

Strawberry cloudy visuals v2 🗿

[limpid sequoia]

🗿 before i've rewritten my cloudy project to semi-cloudy

[zenith stone]

Looks like legos

[quasi trench]

base vv vs base rtx?

render distance doesn’t seem fair

and what about upscaling

[scarlet gust]

I like image 1, image 3, and image 5.

[wise hinge]

[jagged badge]

Great illustration of normal maps at play.

[rancid seal]

Vv has lower rebder distance, but rtx screnshot has player skin not rendering correctly and clouds not loaded correctly. This is not vv vs rtx this time, i show how my resource pack looks like in vv right now.

[graceful iron]

Nice normal maps those look great

[rancid seal]

Minecraft trailer is kinda plastic lmao

[wise hinge]

yay :3

It's so fun since i learned how to draw normals by hand

[rancid seal]

By the way. This might be the first rtx resource pack i may port to vibrant visuals in the fiture, as i know that havong trailer graphics is cool, but i want mobile players to have this ability too

[rancid seal]

Noce normal map! What kind of planls are those?

[willow needle]

Thank you very much, this is oak planks

[scarlet gust]

Your normal maps are better though.

[long ruin]

Can someone not compliment someone else's work without your input

[rancid seal]

I haven't been playing with vanilla textured for pretty long time, so i don't remember how they look like 😅

[limpid sequoia]

is it hard to be a humanity human

[rancid seal]

What

[rancid seal]

@limpid sequoia you have missed my brithday adn didn't make a present fo me. I am sad :(

[limpid sequoia]

thanks to all "true" creators always helping me and inspire me to rewrite my own project

[blazing whale]

Happy brithday, this your cake 🗿

[rancid seal]

OHH THANK YOU, NOW SEND IT TO ME PLS

[wise hinge]

"except for nocturnemew"

[inland vault]

the glint....

[limpid sequoia]

[inland vault]

-# (it feels... otherworldly)

[limpid sequoia]

yeah i see

[inland vault]

-# w

[sonic canopy]

Color chart, showing all VV tonemappers

reinhard, reinhard_luma and hable are surprisingly similar, at least on this visualisation

Interestingly, when visualising a higher range of values (up to 100k luminance), most tonemappers show a distinct band in the pink region, where the color abruptly becomes duller. It is especially apparent in generic tonemapper

[limpid sequoia]

great

[sonic canopy]

And here are 256 color charts for completely randomized VV configs, because why not :P

[limpid sequoia]

🔥

[rancid seal]

I actually don't really like when colour becomes white on high range of values

I don't say its bad, it is annoying sometimes ngl

[limpid sequoia]

Happy Birthday to you!

add me

[zenith stone]

Yeah

[rancid seal]

Thank you mate

[limpid sequoia]

you're welcome

[quick beacon]

I love how this looks :O

[inland vault]

Peak

[rancid seal]

Good job, looks nice

[scarlet gust]

Reinhard Luminance looks like the only good tonemapper here.

[sonic canopy]

It looses a lot of details in brighter colors

[rancid seal]

By the way, what tonemapping does default rtx use?

[sonic canopy]

Its own custom one

More info here

[sonic canopy]

The tones are not mapping

[limpid sequoia]

thanks a lot man

[blazing whale]

Evolution of stephen pack

[limpid sequoia]

hehe thanks girl

[scarlet gust]

I like the 252nd one.

[iron moon]

I like how these are very subtle normals

Look so clean

[scarlet gust]

DLSS is being updated soon and I discovered how to disable mipmapping, so now the only issues remaining are bad shadow and reflection quality when DLSS is enabled.

[wise hinge]

thanks! it's hand-drawn

[willow needle]

Modified copper bulb & normalmap reconstruction

[willow needle]

Gold ore

[limpid sequoia]

looks great

[willow needle]

Thank you

[barren sedge]

guys is there a way to make a specific texture part ghlow?

glow*

in vibrant visuals

i want my entity's eyes to glow as well as some of its design parts

but not sure on how id do that

[limpid sequoia]

that's easy man

[barren sedge]

ohhh

im new to working on graphics stuff so pretty much inexperienced in this section

[limpid sequoia]

i see

[barren sedge]

yep

[limpid sequoia]

everything always taking time

[barren sedge]

yup

i wanna learn how to make em glow like that

is it possible for u to tell me the general idea on how its done?

[vivid bolt]

You need to create a texture set and a separate MERS texture, where you color the glowing pixels green: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/minecraft/creator/documents/vibrantvisuals/pbroverview?view=minecraft-bedrock-stable

[barren sedge]

owhh

lemme check

[deft cradle]

Watch quirky plague tutorial😊

[limpid sequoia]

u can also watch Quirkyplague's tutorial video for more!

[barren sedge]

thankuuu

i willl

[limpid sequoia]

you're welcome

[blazing whale]

or try learn with stephen because he pro for PBR

[limpid sequoia]

hey

people don't prefer heightmap at all

[inland vault]

Looks like we're entering the beginning of the "Stephonic revolution".

[limpid sequoia]

haha 😆

[inland vault]

https://tenor.com/view/corgi-smirk-dog-gif-6147330867794407822

[barren sedge]

thanks to uuuuuuuu

thanks a lot guysss

[daring jewel]

Really cool

[sonic canopy]

Question for the graphics enthusiasts, what are your favourite tonemappers that you would like to see in VV? Or, is there a particular java shader (preferably open source 👁️ ) that has very nice colors that you would like to replicate in VV?

[sonic canopy]

For context, I'm working on some tooling for VV, and one of the tools would allow to make a color grading config for VV based on any arbitrary shader code. So, if you have a tonemapper you like, you'd be able to just copy & paste it into the tool and it will generate a VV config that looks as closely as possible to the inputted code

Still WIP, but here I ran it on "Agx Punchy" tonemapper as an example. Left side of the screen is vanilla VV, with the generated config applied, right side is an actual Agx punchy, added by modifying shaders

I'd like to try it on more examples, if anyone has any ideas :P

[tribal trail]

Best shader in terms of colors in my opinion is sildurs vibrant

[white willow]

Lottes and hejl burgess are some I like

[sonic canopy]

Here's slidurs vibrant. Once again, screenshots are split in half with custom VV config on the left and an actual shader tonemap from Slidur's on the right side of the screen. You can barely tell the difference between them which is quite cool imo. Funnily enough, the program actually used reinhard instead of hable, even though hable is the exact tonemap used in slidur's, it is just tweaked differently. I adjusted exposure by eye, as slidurs uses different brightness units. As a result, VV doesn't look exactly like slidurs vibrant shader, ig it's because default VV lighting and shader lighting are so different. But the tonemap here should be the same.

[sonic canopy]

Gonna try those next

[tribal trail]

That’s insane, is it really spilt? Because it looks identical

[sonic canopy]

Yes! Actually split, I double checked XD

You can see on the 3rd screenshot the biggest difference

[tribal trail]

Oh I can but the difference is so minimal that it’s insane

Can I try that config?

[silent zealot]

Absolutely insane. The only noticeable split is 1st and 3rd.

[sonic canopy]

Here's agx punchy

[willow needle]

I like AGX tonemapp

[silent zealot]

Curious, how did you take these screenshots? Same world in Java and BE then splice it or is there a more streamlined?

[sonic canopy]

Here's Slidurs vibrant tonemap

[sonic canopy]

Ah no, it is BE, but with a custom shader, that only modifies tonemapping and color grading on the right side of the screen and replaces it with custom color grading and tonemapping code, such as agx or the one from slidurs. Left side of the screen still uses untouched VV color grading shader logic

[silent zealot]

Oh so its real time?

That sounds trippy.

[sonic canopy]

Yeah

I can send the material.bin if you want to try it.

[silent zealot]

Sure.

[sonic canopy]

Slidurs

agx punchy

Custom shader materials that I used for the side-by-side screenshot comparisons ^

[silent zealot]

Thanks! I presume using the same method we discovered a while back when we first migrated to GDK?

[sonic canopy]

The materials.index.json no longer works through resource packs, so youy'll have to replace the internal files

You can either directly replace vanilla material.bin files (make sure to backup them first), or you can put them in a different folder and/or with a different name, and just edit materials.index.json folder inside of the renderer/materials internal folder, to point to different file

The way I do it is by creating a new folder inside of materials and adding the json entries at the top of the index file that point to custom materials in your custom folder, as entries at the top take priority over the ones below

[silent zealot]

Gotcha.

[white willow]

def share the results when you do because im quite interested

[sonic canopy]

I'm gonna yoink them from your shader lol

if you don't mind. Just so that you'd have the same code to compare the result in VV to your shader

[sonic canopy]

Which one is the intended look of lottes/your shader? First 2 screenshots multiply color by 0.4, last 2 don't

Imma do the default, unmodified lottes in the meantime, to avoid ambiguity

[white willow]

yea i dont mind.

i think thats what i use

ik im using aces rn but lemme look

yea that should be right

how does your implementation compare to the tools?

[sonic canopy]

Didn't run it through the tool yet, still trying to figure out exposure. Default lottes also looks overexposed, probably that's why you used the 0.4 factor

[white willow]

yea

[sonic canopy]

0.5 for the default lottes looks good, exposure wise, I'll run this one first

[sonic canopy]

Default lottes (scaled by 0.5). It is actually exactly 1 to 1 recreation. Almost can't even tell these are side by side screenshots

For some reason, reinhard keeps being used by the tool in these tonemap recreations. Configs based on reinhard end up being the closest to the original tonemap. Is reinhard secretly an actually good tonemapper???

[white willow]

wow

thats pretty close

how does it deal with like bright reds - oranges

cuz lottes shifts those towards orange/yellow

[sonic canopy]

The wool looks pretty identical, idk what other block to try that would be more orange

You could try it yourself tho, I sent the VV file config above

[white willow]

i meant like emission

so like glowing redstone tends to look more orange

not like aces level

but

ill mess with it in a few

[sonic canopy]

Here's the bin file, for default lottes (scaled by 0.5)

If u want to also see the reference tonemap, side by side

[white willow]

aight

[sonic canopy]

Hejl-Burgess tonemap (scaled by 0.2). This one is also pretty much spot on. These are once again side-by-side screenshot, but you can't see the seam anywhere, that's how close it is

[white willow]

wow yea it looks like it

oh uh is this color post processing for release or preview

[sonic canopy]

Material.bin? Preview, that's what I've been using. But it should still work on release

Didn't test it tho

[white willow]

yea its fine in release

damn seems to get those tones right too

im gonna boost the emissive and see whats up

seems that it handles emissives about the same as actual lottes

thats pretty neat

wow alright i am def surprised at that

default tonemapping vs the actual lottes

and my betterRTX preset which also uses lottes

[sonic canopy]

I'm gonna try 2 more, lottes variant from your shader, and then opendrt. And then maybe the default agx, we'll see

[white willow]

alright

[sonic canopy]

Lottes variant from Escheridia shader, but scaled by 0.5 instead of 0.4. There is some visible difference with this one, during the night time

Ok that's the last one for today. Gonna do more tomorrow

[hardy island]

Try Uchimura, looks really punchy

[sonic canopy]

Ah yeah, good idea, forgot about this one

[hardy island]

Would definitely really look good, I've tried it with VV and it results really astonishing

[scarlet gust]

Most cursed screenshot I've seen in a while

I did not take this screenshot by the way

I don't take screenshots frequently enough

[inland vault]

Looks like there are a lot of placeholder blocks, meaning that the game needs to be updated.

[wise hinge]

copper ore

[limpid sequoia]

[wise hinge]

[sonic canopy]

Uchimura tonemap

[sonic canopy]

You were right, it is quite a nice tonemap

Wait, I forgot gamma correction 😭

[blazing whale]

Nice color grading

[sonic canopy]

Here's uchimura, but with proper gamma correction this time. In the previous post, it was implemented incorrectly

This one is more accurate (more vibrant, like the actual tonemap) for the atmosphere and sun glare, but less accurate for emissives.

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[sonic canopy]

Default agx

Um, I think I made a typo somewhere

[tribal trail]

it looks perfect to me

[severe grove]

Mirai?

[white willow]

Tbh it's really impressive what fine tuned color grading can truly do

I definitely feel like I haven't messed with the system nearly enough

[sonic canopy]

OpenDRT

[hardy island]

Yes, with VV being very stylized and needing a punchy tonemap, it's perfect!

[hardy island]

Looks very flat, but that's how AgX is LOL

[rancid seal]

Why don't mojang allow editing material bins trough resource packs

Why do we have default material bins compiled at all? They were all decompiled

[white willow]

Something something security reasons

[hardy island]

So the code can run on multiple platforms, but yeah, I get what you mean, it sucks to compile the code and test it, then code, and repeat that process over and over. It would be really nice if Mojang allows material bins just go through resource pack!

[pale urchin]

Also, they would rather not expose things that have zero documentation and zero way to actually work with by official means

[white willow]

Forgot about that. All materials are cross compiled for each platform.

Modding bedrock must be a complete pain cuz of how many systems actually run the game

[pale urchin]

Windows and Android are the only ones with modding support

[hardy island]

Developing shaders, even for adding Android support is just hell at this point

[rancid seal]

I will not need to wait for RTX update if they do that lol

[hardy island]

Would RTX get an update? I thought they abandoned it though?

[rancid seal]

I don't think so

[pale urchin]

abandoned as in no new features for it, but it's being maintained with bug fixes here and there

[rancid seal]

I mean I don't think they re going to make full RT update

[hardy island]

Oh, just being maintained, that's nice

[rancid seal]

They only fix MInecraft RTX bugs right now. They have also added keyframes on fogs both to VV and RTX recently

[hardy island]

What? You want to make a shader for RTX? Isn't that hard? I haven't tried to see the codes

[hardy island]

Isn't that nice of them

[pale urchin]

You can make a custom shader for RTX right now. Ever heard of BetterRTX?

[rancid seal]

I mean, I never saw RTX source code

I want to see RTX source code one day, even without having the purpose to edit something

[hardy island]

Heard it, but never seen the codes. Is there limitations to it?

[white willow]

If you want it based on vanilla RTX it's borderline impossible. But we have made basic template shaders that contain no NVIDIA or mojang code

[hardy island]

Oh, so making it from scratch I see

Wait, how does BetterRTX does it though if it's based on vanilla RTX?

[white willow]

There's very few limitations. The only real limitations are that it's very hard to get external texture reads (for example noise textures for clouds/puddles), and things that vanilla doesn't provide are near impossible to add. We can't modify the BVH or do other things without literally modding and doing DLL injection

[rancid seal]

I think that values given by game code is the only limitation

[white willow]

You have I think like 99 buffers to work with to do you can do whatever you want

[rancid seal]

I mean if you don't waant to make some ultra rtex sadars with ultra realistic everything

And memeory limits too

[white willow]

Vanilla material leak happened awhile ago. I don't remember the specifics but there was one update that released RTX bins in a non encrypted way

Only reason better RTX exists

[hardy island]

Hmm, that would suck, is that why there's no like volumetric clouds in RTX?

[hardy island]

Wait what? How does that even happen?

[rancid seal]

Clouds are volumetric in RTX

Technically they aare

[hardy island]

I mean, not vanilla, but actually using 3D noise to make realistic volumetric clouds

[white willow]

It's not impossible to do VL clouds, just very hard to do in a performant way. You can read textures from a resource pack or repurpose textures provided but you'd need a way to get the modified internal textures onto someone else's system

[rancid seal]

Because your pc is going to die

10 seconds per frame

And stuff like that

[white willow]

Idk the specifics on getting rp texture reads

But it's doable

[hardy island]

It's definitely doable, can't you just generate the noise textures on the fly? (yes, I know this is bad in performance, but it's practicable right?)

[white willow]

Not really. The issue is we have to generate a 3D noise on gpu which is really slow.

[rancid seal]

I've been trying to re-create "realisitc" clouds by an add-on, but the performace is just...

[white willow]

Yea we had a dev doing that. It's BEYOND slow

[hardy island]

I don't have an RTX graphics card

[hardy island]

LOL, what noise did he use? Worley and perlin? That would horribly suck

[white willow]

Idk

I haven't looked at the code

[rancid seal]

I've been doing it without even doing some noise things, but it was very laggy in this case.

[white willow]

I think it's perlin based

[scarlet gust]

More cursed screenshots

[hardy island]

Yeah, can't imagine that, that's why shaders are used for it

[rancid seal]

I think I can make some kind of noise by using scripting API, but I don't think it is going to be that good

[white willow]

They aren't even 3D either afaik. And it tanked performance big time

[sonic canopy]

John, with volumetrics in his specral renderer?

[hardy island]

Yeah, that sucks so much

[scarlet gust]

Credit to @zoren__2_4 for taking these screenshots

[hardy island]

How the hell does performance tanked THAT much

[white willow]

I forgot John did that. I was talking the tests Jason did recently, although afaik it was vibe coded

So that would also maybe do something perf wise

I'm looking into maybe attempting clouds but considering I can't even seem to do fog correctly idk about it that 😭

[scarlet gust]

I need context

[rancid seal]

I mean I believe we can creaate some kind of better clouds using scripting API and making your own noise, but i believe it is not going to be that good, you know

[scarlet gust]

What is happening

[sonic canopy]

Ah right. Yeah I don't think it populates a noise texture, I think it just computes it in real-time which is why it's so slow

[white willow]

But John's clouds were insane man. I wish we got that

[hardy island]

How does it look?

I'm really interested

[white willow]

Iirc they were path traced. I'm gonna see if I can find it

[sonic canopy]

#1182091012177399809 message

[sonic canopy]

Found it

[rancid seal]

They could at least make enother style for rtx clouds, not those ugly flying cubes. They could at least make them smoother.

[hardy island]

Ahh, path traced clouds. That's why, generating the noise on the fly while making them path traced is just borderly impossible to make it performant.

[pale urchin]

Let's make every block in terrain smooth while we're at it

[rancid seal]

By the way, when Minecraft RTX clouds got broken?

[scarlet gust]

Aggregate eXposure is the best tonemapper ever made. It's just that Quirkyplague and Gizmonaught have bad implementations of it.

[hardy island]

Beautiful, really beautiful

[rancid seal]

I mean, in case we are in Minecraft, this is not something we need. But RTX clouds would look better if they were smoother, with their material

[scarlet gust]

There's no anti-abney and it's always overexposed.

[hardy island]

It's subjective, but IMO something like ACES 2.0 is way better

[white willow]

John had some crazy fog in MCPT

MCPT is actually insane

[hardy island]

MCPT? What's that?

A shader?

[white willow]

It was an offline path traced on Java edition. It utilized a mod called Vulkanite to do hwrt

[hardy island]

Beautiful

[rancid seal]

Creating a simple noise:
step 1: getting value x*y*sin(seed)
step 2: getting 4 middle numbers of the value we have just found.
step 3: (2*(value/9999))-1 (=noise value)

Idk how good is this one for making better clouds in Minecraft RTX

I will try

But i believe the performance is going to be awful

Not because of calculaating but because of the amount of objects rendered

[white willow]

Some images of what I'm talking about. Crazy fog

[hardy island]

Crazy how fogs can just change how the whole scene looks

[pale urchin]

It even blurs the background, lovely

[sonic canopy]

Found more screenshots of the bedrock version of John's spectral renderer #1182095383015456829 message

[scarlet gust]

Academy Atrocious Color Encoding System

[sonic canopy]

I think that's just dof, not fog

[hardy island]

True, they handle highlights quite rough IMO, not as good as AgX, but well colors look more vibrant to me for ACES

[pale urchin]

aw man

[hardy island]

Compare ACES 2.0 with AgX, you'll see the difference

[sonic canopy]

This is aces from VV. Which afaik is not even proper aces 1.0, it is just a cheap approximation of it, not the full thing

[scarlet gust]

AgX Punchy is far better than ACES 2.0 (imo).

[rancid seal]

We're moving to tonemapping? Uhh, im gonna go out and touch some grass at this point.

[sonic canopy]

Oh, the temptation to try making a VV config out of this...

[hardy island]

Yeah, they should change how ACES work in VV

[scarlet gust]

We need AgX in VV.

[hardy island]

LOL, I made one, but I need LUT... Which is possible to do in VV but.. Just too overkill

[scarlet gust]

However, unfortunately, the closest thing to AgX in VV is Reinhard Luminance.

[white willow]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[scarlet gust]

Is there a way to modify AgX into Vibrant Visuals?

[rancid seal]

Minecraft RTX screenshot for you all, for better chatting!

[white willow]

Not what I'm getting at

Reinhard is nowhere CLOSE to AGX in any way shape or form

That's what I'm getting at

[hardy island]

Beautiful

[scarlet gust]

I'm referring to Reinhard Luminance.

[hardy island]

Yes, install my shader

[white willow]

Doesn't matter

[scarlet gust]

Not Reinhard.

[white willow]

Reinhard luminance is still Reinhard

It's still the basic
1.0 / (1.0 + color)

With extra steps

[hardy island]

Oh yeah, Veka, have you tried Khronos PBR Neutral on VV?

[sonic canopy]

I posted color grading VV configs that mimic default and punchy AGX like 20 messages above. I also posted material.bin custom shaders that add both agx versions directly into the game, again, 20 messages above

[sonic canopy]

Never heard of it before

[hardy island]

It's quite rare to see a shader use it, but try it out for yourself!:
https://github.com/KhronosGroup/ToneMapping/blob/main/PBR_Neutral/pbrNeutral.glsl

[scarlet gust]

Are these the AgX VV configs and AgX RTX material.bin files? #1182091012177399809 message

[white willow]

I've wanted to try this one. Not necessarily in VV but I think substance designer has that tonemap built into its renderer and it looks solid

[hardy island]

Only VV for now

[white willow]

ColorPostProcessing is a VV material binary

[sonic canopy]

Tonemap from complementary re-imagined

[white willow]

If it was RTX it would've said RTX.TonemappingPostFX.material.bin

[hardy island]

Yeah, me too!

[hardy island]

This actually looks solid

[sonic canopy]

Thanks, I'll give that a shot

[scarlet gust]

BetterRTX also adds AgX, but the implementation is bad, so I still use the Vanilla tonemapper.

[white willow]

I'm starting to think VVs washed out look is the config and not tonemapping 😭

[hardy island]

While chatting with you guys, I tried to compile my shader, and its so long..

[sonic canopy]

Yeah, it's the lighting for sure

[hardy island]

493.74+376.87=870.61 seconds
Which is 15 minute ish

[white willow]

The implementation is fine. I just think it's an older one. I found it in a repo that's a few ish years old.

I wanna try the newer AgX minimal that seems to be fairly popular among Java shader devs

[sonic canopy]

Damn. Which materials take the longest?

[hardy island]

Modify it by yourself and use Uchimura

[scarlet gust]

Pin this comment

[white willow]

Just haven't found the sources for its implementation :p

[scarlet gust]

And this comment

[hardy island]

Actor materials, mainly ActorPatternForwardPBR..

It took really long

[hardy island]

Wait there's one?

[white willow]

Which also just so you know, the implementation I added to betterRTX was explicitly ripped out of blender (according to the guy who made the original shader) so in that case get mad at blender :p

[hardy island]

A newer one?

[sonic canopy]

Yeah, makes sense. You could use -m argument to compile only specific materials btw, if you want to skip compiling actors, for example

[white willow]

There's one called AgX minimal and alot of java shader devs seem to like it. I just can't find the sources for it

[hardy island]

Yeah, but I just did an overhaul over the files, is there any thing to make the codes compile faster?

Except improving my device ofc

[scarlet gust]

The only issue with it is that it's always overexposed.

[hardy island]

Hmmm, I'll try to find it

[white willow]

Have you actually made a preset using it and messing with the values? Because if not please don't talk on the implementation being bad :p

Not using some other preset that has it

Because gilded graphics preset uses my AgX and has no issues with exposure :p

[white willow]

If you're basing that solely on infectious that's NOT AGXs fault. Infectious JUST SUCKS.

[quick beacon]

Genuine question. I know VV been a thing for quite a long while now, but do different tone-mappers affect exposure/auto-exposure in any way? I’m genuinely curious.

[sonic canopy]

I was just about to suggest getting a better device, lol. Compilation is multi threaded, so I think it is pretty much as fast as it gets, with the current shaderc implementation. Maybe implementing some kind of hash checks, to skip compiling unchanged files could be a nice addition to lazurite, but idk. We still need to improve the compiler and add the missing features into it, before thinking about QoL improvements. Maybe re-doing the compiler from scratch, based on spirv tooling would be a better move, that way we can get rid of some of the BGFX junk

[white willow]

Usually no. Exposure is applied before tonemapping

So tonemap shouldn't have any real effect on it

[hardy island]

Bruhhh

What can these 4 cores and 4 threads do

[sonic canopy]

They can compile 4 times faster than with 1 core and 1 thread. 400% improvement 🔥

[white willow]

🔥

[quick beacon]

Ah, I see. Thanks for the explanation. I thought it was affected by tone-mapping, but I guess my brain played tricks on me

[silent zealot]

🗣️ Spend $1000 on a new CPU for 5s faster compilation.

[white willow]

Basically it goes like this

• Overexposed color in gamma space (or whatever linear space you decide to use)
• Auto exposure computes the overexposed image and adjusts the outputs
• exposure adjusted image sent to tonemap and then tonemapped
• correct gamma to proper output color space

[quick beacon]

I see

[white willow]

You could be a weirdo and auto expose after tonemapping I guess but you'd probably run into some REALLY funky color problems :p

Idk what sane developer would try to do that

[scarlet gust]

That's why RAW, HDR, and Log encoding exist

I personally like S-Log

[white willow]

(Sorry if this comes off wrong, I'm just making a joke and not trying to insult anyone's intelligence)

[scarlet gust]

Although I color grade it later

[sonic canopy]

What do you color grade

[scarlet gust]

And use converter LUTs

[white willow]

RAW images get tonemapped lmao

And auto exposed

Unless you do manual exposure

[white willow]

In the case of iPhones raw image, it just means that the image has no compression or processing, it still does the tonemapping

[scarlet gust]

I convert the tonemapper

To a better one

Like AgX

[white willow]

Heif vs raw. There's no difference aside from the heif image looking a bit more saturated

Sorry the raw image is on the right

That one is more saturated

It's still getting tonemapped :p

[scarlet gust]

RAW has more color data

[white willow]

The point of raw photos is specifically for editing since it has no compression or dithering

[scarlet gust]

Although it looks the same

[white willow]

But that doesn't mean the camera doesn't tonemap it

[scarlet gust]

Although it looks like you used ProRAW

[white willow]

What other thing does iPhone have that I'm supposed to use then. In your infinite wisdom, enlighten me

[quick beacon]

Raw images are pretty nice. I use that format when I sometimes go out and do photography

[white willow]

Yea not a bad thing to do if you have a high quality camera

Most image formats are fine enough though as long as it's not jpeg :p

Me and my homies hate jpegs

(Dont take me seriously, jpegs are great if you can sacrifice the quality for size)

[scarlet gust]

Which is NOT RAW

[quick beacon]

Canon EOS R6 Mark II is a pretty solid cam

[sonic canopy]

Meanwhile, PNGs recently got support for HDR and animations

[white willow]

This is why PNGs are king

[sonic canopy]

Here are some HDR PNGs that I have around, one of RTX (credit: Weather) and one of VV

[quick beacon]

I know this is off-topic, but this is the file size diff between a raw image and a jpg image

[white willow]

RAW photos literally means that there's no compression. That's all it means. Apples proRAW keeps it lossless but also adds their color processing. It's still a raw format file 😭

A raw image is just exactly what it says, an uncompressed image you can use for editing

Which is what proRAW gives you

:l

[scarlet gust]

ProRAW vs RAW

ProRAW has processing

RAW doesn't

[white willow]

That's... literally what I said

It's still a raw image tho 😭

I don't get your point

It's UNCOMPRESSED AND LOSSLESS, which is the point of raw photos

[sonic canopy]

It heavily crushes the colors of the sun bloom here, but other than that, it is very nice and vibrant. Gonna try running the tool on it to generate the VV config

The pigs pinks are also crushed, in a dark environment

[scarlet gust]

ProRAW is worse for editing since it's already processed

It takes six different exposures and meshes them together with several layers of processing

While RAW just takes the image directly out of the sensor

RAW: Light > Lens > Sensor > Vacuum Tube > SSD
ProRAW: Light > Lens > Sensor > Vacuum Tube > Image Processing > SSD

At least, that's how I think it works

[sonic canopy]

Digital sensors work based on vacuum tubes?

[sonic canopy]

You could make an argument that ProRAW is beteter, as it contains more information, from multiple exposures. Whereas with a single RAW photo, you have only information from a single exposure, so the range of colors you can access is limited

[rancid seal]

Does minecraft use its own material bin compiling method?

[sonic canopy]

Mojang has their own tooling for compiling shaders into material.bin, yes. They are using a fork of BGFX library, which has been heavily modified to meet the demands of minecraft graphics

[white willow]

From what I've been reading, pro raw processing is a filter that you can disable in a photo editor if you don't like it so. In general their statement is pretty not correct anyway

[scarlet gust]

Wait no that was incorrect

[white willow]

Normal photos bake the processing in, where as pro raw does it more like an image layer in photoshop.

And they are exported as .DNG files

[scarlet gust]

RAW: Light > Lens > Complimentary Metal Oxide Semiconductor > SSD
ProRAW: Light > Lens > Complimentary Metal Oxide Semiconductor > Image Processing > SSD

[rancid seal]

They now have no reasons to conpile code stored in material bin files ino, as a lot of stuff was already decompiled

[white willow]

Basically you can make use of all of Apple's great camera tech without destroying an image (fusion camera stuff and night mode and HDR processing ). All of pro raw's edits are non destructive

Which is literally what you'd want tbh

[rancid seal]

I feel like using custom shaders in reosurce pack should always have been in the game.

Idk why did they compile all codes

Also why compiled shader code is called as "material"

?

[white willow]

Just cuz it's been decompiled doesn't mean it shouldn't be compiled. And even then, our decompiled code isn't exactly on par with theirs.

They have their own internal system we can't see

And it's generally quite complex from the very little bit they showed of how render dragon works

But compiling is necessary. It ensures each platform gets the correct code and is formatted in a way that device can read it. Android code is different from iOS code and is different from windows code

[sonic canopy]

Khronos PBR Neutral, version with better colors but less accurate

[rancid seal]

Hmm

[white willow]

Interesting it has the same sun issue that generic does

[rancid seal]

Does that mean you nerd diffetent versions of shaders for each device?

[white willow]

Yes

Different gpus and drivers handle things differently

Even on Java where it's just pc this is an issue

One thing you do on Nvidia will literally cause compile failures on AMD

And don't get me started on Intel drivers :p

[rancid seal]

Ohh, but it would be neat if decompiling process was easier

[white willow]

Decompiling is hard for any game

That's just how it is

Code isn't really meant to be decompiled and stripped down

Especially when most decompiled code isn't usually human readable. Compiled code converts code into binary so the computer can read and process it

[rancid seal]

Yeah, binary code

Love when i have unreadable code lol

[white willow]

All code at some point gets compiled regardless. It's up to the creator give out the original source code

Which usually in the case of these AAA companies, they aren't allowed to do

The fact we have a fully unobfuscated version of mc java for modders is insane in its own right

[scarlet gust]

I think I'm going to run out of battery soon

15% battery

[white willow]

https://tenor.com/view/who-asked-me-trying-to-find-who-asked-spongebob-spunch-bob-gif-22526294

[sonic canopy]

Different version of Khronos PBR Neutral which should be more accurate but has worse colors, imo. This is the last one that I do

[white willow]

Looks like the VV one used Reinhard luminance as a base

Definitely seems a bit closer

I'm wondering if generic would be a better base

[sonic canopy]

Here are the color charts for all 12 combinations of tonemappers and temperature color grading type, after each of them has been optimized to look as closely to the target (Khronos PBR) as possible by the tool.

Also, sorted in the order of best to worst (increasing error)

Generic usually scores last in these

[white willow]

Interesting that Reinhard seems to be the most flexible

Reinhard luminance basically looks exactly like it just without the white clipping

[sonic canopy]

Actually, the scale here, on the color chart, is a bit off. I'm gonna make a new one. Color chart goes up to a luminance of 50, whereas the tool only optimised for luminance up to 10. For reference, the sun geo itself is about 30 in brightness, so optimising for 50 is just overkill and would compromise the accuracy of darker colors

[rancid seal]

Prefer seeing codd that can be read by human than binraies... Better late than nowhen

[scarlet gust]

My favorite tonemapper here is Target.

Can I have the material.bin files for that one?

[sonic canopy]

Here ^

"Target" is not the name of the tonemapper, it is a label, meaning that this is the color transform that other tonemappers try to reach (try to target) during optimisation. In this case, it is Khronos PBR

Here's the chart with a proper scale

And, for reference, the neutral VV config, basically with color grading disabled. This is a starting point, before trying to optimize them to look as close as possible to the target

[scarlet gust]

RTX needs Khronos PBR Neutral implementation.

[rancid seal]

Pbr is pretty fine, isn't it? I think i don't understand what do you want to be changed exactly

[scarlet gust]

That tonemapper is fine, but could potentially be slightly better.

Khronos PBR Neutral is the only tonemapper I've seen that's better than the Vanilla tonemapper.

[rancid seal]

I know that i sometimes see tonemapping issues i don't eant to see, but udually it is pretty fine for me, you know

I think colours are usually fine... I think

[scarlet gust]

The vanilla tonemapper does a pretty good job. There's no hue shifting and colors are vibrant. However, Khronos PBR Neutral has a more linear curve.

[rancid seal]

I can't tell i don't care sbout colours, but maybe. I usually focus on dtuff thst can be seen by player.

[silk badge]

Why would an addon disable pbr?

[silent zealot]

Incorrect manifest.

[silk badge]

I've been looking at 2 addons for the past hour

One where it works

The other where it doesnt

And they are functionally Identical

And I have no idea why it's not workings

I am going insane

I really wish there was an option to force load vibrant visuals

Because this is so god damn annoying

If something doesnt work properly doesnt the game have stuff to fallback on?

[silent zealot]

Whats the manifest?

[silk badge]

This shit doesn't use anything related to vv btw

So I wouldn't need to add pbr capabilities

not like that worked

[silent zealot]

You still need that buddy.

You need pbr capabilities and 1 21 120 min engine version.

[silk badge]

I'll try that again ig

Didn't work

[silent zealot]

Both addons have pbr capabilities and min 1 21 120?

Show your new manifest.

[silk badge]

{
"format_version": 2,
"metadata": {
"authors": [
"Katsu"
],
"generated_with": {
"bridge": [
"2.7.54"
],
"dash": [
"0.11.7"
]
}
},
"header": {
"name": "pack.name",
"description": "pack.description",
"min_engine_version": [1, 26, 10]
"uuid": "3781ff05-8ab4-4a5b-8b77-d7898e4cd023",
"version": [1, 0, 0]
},
"modules": [
{
"type": "resources",
"uuid": "ad2b3403-889a-44a5-a8a9-dfdc7431a321",
"version": [
1,
0,
0
]
}
],
"capabilities": [
"pbr"
],
"dependencies": [
{
"uuid": "2ac639e3-d9fb-4309-85e5-fc7a1255b0b4",
"version": [
1,
0,
0
]
}
],

}

[silent zealot]

Im getting an invalid json?

[silk badge]

?????????

[silent zealot]

Ah theres no comma after min engine version

[silk badge]

....

Alright let me try again

I really hate how stupidly hard getting into android/data is

[silent zealot]

Your content log should have yelled at you.

[silk badge]

It didn't

[silent zealot]

{"format_version":2,"metadata":{"authors":["Katsu"],"generated_with":{"bridge":["2.7.54"],"dash":["0.11.7"]}},"header":{"name":"pack.name","description":"pack.description","min_engine_version":[1,26,10],"uuid":"3781ff05-8ab4-4a5b-8b77-d7898e4cd023","version":[1,0,0]},"modules":[{"type":"resources","uuid":"ad2b3403-889a-44a5-a8a9-dfdc7431a321","version":[1,0,0]}],"capabilities":["pbr"],"dependencies":[{"uuid":"2ac639e3-d9fb-4309-85e5-fc7a1255b0b4","version":[1,0,0]}]}

This is the fixed one. Unless you of course pasted the wrong manifest.

[silk badge]

Doesn't work

[silent zealot]

This is the only addon applied?

You have in game graphics mode switching enabled?

[silk badge]

Yep

And yep

[rancid seal]

I could misunderstand you as I was not the part of the conversation before, so sorry for that. Do you have any kind of errors being sent to console? Which one are those? Are there any related to manifest?

[silk badge]

All of them are completely unrelated the manifest

Ive had this kind of issue before with another addon

But I've fixed it

But that same fix isnt working

https://discord.com/channels/523663022053392405/1477538338608119869

[rancid seal]

I wonder what happens if you try to lower min engine version? For example, not 1.26.10, but 1.21.40?

[silk badge]

Tried 1.21.40, 1.21.130, and 1.21.120

Nothing

[rancid seal]

Also, make sure you are editing the correct manifest json. Sometimes I was editing the wrong file, and in a lot of cases, this is the issue for me

Also, in case you are editing stuff in manifest, try reloading the entire game or the app you are making add-ons in.

[silk badge]

I'll try thag

[rancid seal]

Always make sure stuff is edited correctly. Also, maybe you need to send the add-on (or the resource pack from the add-on) so we can see if the issue happens to us or not

[silk badge]

Worked

I had to reload the entire game

I still want to be able to force load vibrant visuals

[rancid seal]

You can use mods to do that

[silk badge]

On android?

[silent zealot]

Tada. Now you know.

[rancid seal]

I surely have posted it before, but, uhh, there is a chance i haven't.

[iron moon]

What shader is this

[white willow]

MCPT

Vulkanite based offline renderer

[severe grove]

Gigabyte B550M DS3H AC R2, AMD Ryzen 5 5500, RX 6600 XT, 16GB RAM DDR4, SSD NVMe 512GB. How much FPS do i get when i play Minecraft Rtx?

[limpid sequoia]

Uhhh 60 or higher of course

[severe grove]

Yippee

[wise hinge]

[blazing whale]

ertiex seder

[severe grove]

I love ertiex 😜

[willow needle]

New cobblestone for Strawberry Deferred V4.0 Rewrite (Vanilla Realistic)

[rancid seal]

Im sorry if this question is strange, but lemme ask anyways.
What keyframe should i use for the evening (sunset) time? For that one you can get by running a command "/time set sunset".

I mean i tried 0.25-0.3 keyframes, are those close enough?

[limpid sequoia]

god

[rancid seal]

Uhh 0.18-0.21?

[rancid seal]

R u sure?

I didn't try yet

[limpid sequoia]

try it

and use /time set 12000 and /time set 12500

for day /time set 1000

for 6:30 /time set 0

for noon /time set 6000

for sunset transition /time set 11000

[rancid seal]

Fogs stuff hard

[limpid sequoia]

for night /time set 13500 and midnight /time set 18000

[limpid sequoia]

i see

i used to make the fogs thin at noon and midnight

[rancid seal]

Inwill make fog thin at night, on day time, sunset and sunrise times i will jsit control fog colour so i can make sunrises and sunsets finally look better in rtx

[limpid sequoia]

yep

[snow gate]

A completely Normal Minecraft World

[limpid sequoia]

dang

[wise hinge]

noon

[willow needle]

Strawberry vanilla realistic custom decorative pot

[willow needle]

a bit pale

[limpid sequoia]

because i use cold theme for taiga :))

i should make it more saturate, thanks for your suggestion^^

[sonic canopy]

This is how you can convert time of day (0-24000) to a keyframe value (0-1)

ang = fract(timeOfDay / 24000.0 - 0.25);
ang = (ang + (cos(ang * PI) * -0.5 + 0.5 - ang) / 3.0);

And if you want to convert from keyframe to sun angle, multiply keyframe value by 360 or by 2*PI, depending on whether you need radians or degrees.

[sonic canopy]

^

[white willow]

This is really good, but I think it would benefit from being a little rougher, I think a larger highlight would look cleaner

[quick beacon]

BoB spotted

[silent zealot]

BoB? More like bOb

[limpid sequoia]

yeah it is

[wise hinge]

thanks for the feedback :3
I'll mess around with roughness

[blazing whale]

Mossy cobblestone by @willow needle

[rancid seal]

What

[snow gate]

I like that one

The way the reflections look make it looks like if the surface is wet

[rancid seal]

I have (almost) reached 70 fps with my 4 gb 3050 ti gpu

Reduced quality, but... nothing else i can do - messing up with dlss is the only thing

[rancid seal]

Yay falling blocks are now working in rtx

[silent zealot]

I wonder if this has changed at all.

[limpid sequoia]

Happy birthday to me

my 19th birthday

[silent zealot]

Ngl, for colour grading I can't see much diff for highlights. Shadows and Midtones are very noticeable changes.

Oh wait. I see it affecting clouds.

[willow needle]

Vanilla decorative pot

Strawberry decorative pot

[limpid sequoia]

[graceful iron]

That’s a hella clean gold normal

Never been a huge fan of the rounded look but looks great

[limpid sequoia]

[blazing whale]

Rose gold

[fading kindle]

love it

[blazing whale]

I like your heightmap

[limpid sequoia]

thank you

[willow needle]

nice coloring on jungle

[limpid sequoia]

thank you 😆

[blazing whale]

simple series?

[limpid sequoia]

that's for rewrite:)

[wise hinge]

jongle

[limpid sequoia]

[wise hinge]

-# (not for any texture lol)

[limpid sequoia]

[wise hinge]

lodestone/endstone

heart pottery :3

[willow needle]

Change heart pottery to strawberry with vanilla realistic style

[faint frigate]

I forgot that they fixed them. I always remembered them being rendered broken

[quick beacon]

Been a while since I used Point Lights

[rancid seal]

Completely useless Minecraft RTX fix

[tribal trail]

?

[rancid seal]

Mushroom cow mushrooms now display

[tribal trail]

why is it useless

[rancid seal]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rancid seal]

We could do the same thing using a resource pack, including making those ray traced

[tribal trail]

then it's useless for you

but things should work out of the box with no need to fix them

so it's not useless

[rancid seal]

Wtf did I just found

[rancid seal]

Name tags, faalling blocks and those things were not displaying because of the same issue tho

So maaybe it it useful

[scarlet gust]

Just finished my sea lantern flipbook texture.

[wise hinge]

cactus flower sss

[blazing whale]

Bamboo

[scarlet gust]

Wait I forgot to add no

That's fine I guess

I'll make another poll

[rancid seal]

Bro why are you answering your question 😭

[limpid sequoia]

😭

[wise hinge]

potteries!
sunlight from left / sunlight from right

[blazing whale]

😭

[rancid seal]

😭

[limpid sequoia]

[rancid seal]

[limpid sequoia]

[wise hinge]

:doggy_smoke:

[rancid seal]

[limpid sequoia]

[blazing whale]

Nice pot PBR

[limpid sequoia]

thank you

i've made them before and shown before

[willow needle]

My suggestion is that if you want the motif to be a little deeper in pixels, so that it has depth to the motif.

[limpid sequoia]

it's deep already, just it's not a good angle to take the screenshot

[willow needle]

That means it's just a matter of lighting that isn't right at certain angles.

[limpid sequoia]

nvm, if i change anything it's hard to reverse

that's why i'm always rewrite all my configs

[willow needle]

Yes just dont change

[limpid sequoia]

i think i love it

or deeper?

[willow needle]

i like it, simple but nice

[limpid sequoia]

i have just made a new one

Heart Pottery Sherd

thanks for Rifki suggestion!

[willow needle]

nice lighting

[limpid sequoia]

thank you very much

[blazing whale]

I hope Mojang can make fog reflect on water later

[sonic canopy]

This could also be because sky intensity is less than 1

Which affects all sky reflections including water reflections

[blazing whale]

in this case in my image used sky intensity 1.0

[rancid seal]

The most cursed thing ive ever seen in my entire life

RTX lava but with point light

Lava but with red point light

Point lightning stuff funny

Pointlighted redstone line funny

[quick beacon]

I'm sorry, but I have to say that regular vanilla RTX in general does not look good. I am pretty much sad that BRTX is kind of like a dead project now given it hasn't been updated in a while.

[rancid seal]

What the, i was testing RTX without a resource pack, ofc its bad

I mean, its your opinion, but there is always something you could love in default rtx.

Sowy for spamming screenshots

Default RTX is pretty much a cute thing imo

And i love its style more than vv. (Yea absolute vv hater opinion)

With keyframes on fogs we now can do more stuff, have more control on ambience, both in rtx and vv

[quasi trench]

whats going on there

noisy but nice

[quasi trench]

only thing really is the fact that it’s path traced

and that normals show up in non direct lighting scenarios

if vv could ever have even just normal ray tracing features it would surpass

[white willow]

its just bedrock rtx without the primary denoiser

[willow needle]

Emerald ore

[quasi trench]

is there like any use case for that

or just interesting to look at

[white willow]

Yes and no. Without denoising you have zero detail loss. So you get some crazy shadows and stuff

With rtxs default denoising you wouldn't really see half the amount of shadows here

Most of it would just get blurred out or eaten away

I've already sent this pic oops

But you get the idea

Here for example, you'd probably lose a lot of the lighting detail past only a short distance away

Here's another comparison. Look how far out you can still see shadows on the left image and how quickly they die out on the right image

Also the details on the normalmaps in the back too

So is there a use to it? Not really but it's more so to show how much you actually lose from denoising

Now there's ways around it cough cough ReSTIR but still

[scarlet gust]

RTX ON FOREVER is typing...

I wonder what they're typing.

[rancid seal]

I really thknk you don't care, but its time i had to sjare my opinion ig. Yeah, there was no official RTX update for 6 entire years. But on the other hand, RTX recnely yogt some kind of new feature or something. Keyframes on fogs (it was not said in chabgelog this feature is made for vv specifically!!!). As mojang dont get money from RTX, they rearely dos oemthinf but just fixing bugs right now. However, RTX that qas not uosated for entire 6 years sometimes peform better than vinrant visuals, and still looks more realistic than vibrant visuals. However, deferred is pretty much new graphics mode, of course it has more features. Or is being developed as more players can use it, pretty kuch the only reason why it exists.

Additional info
RTX maps are not abailable for consoles that could be another source of popularity of Minecraft RTX. They could continue allowing adding Minecraft marketplace maps with ray tracjng support (i want to be a marketplace partner if they did that :3), so we cannot make them continue caring about ray tracing as they did before.

[inland vault]

The typo...

[scarlet gust]

There's multiple of them.

By the way, I made a tonemapper.

[inland vault]

Cool.

[rancid seal]

Nice fogs

[limpid sequoia]

thanks mate

[rancid seal]

RtxRtxRtxRtx

[limpid sequoia]

dawg

[rancid seal]

[limpid sequoia]

[rancid seal]