Graphics General

[limpid sequoia]

back to survival map

🗿

[severe grove]

🗿

[limpid sequoia]

🗿

[wise hinge]

[severe grove]

🗿

[limpid sequoia]

back to VV

i can't live without it

[wind pollen]

[limpid sequoia]

[limpid sequoia]

yassssssssssss

[rancid seal]

I am sad

I can't test my rtx rp

Because preview is not out yet

[limpid sequoia]

just smile

[rancid seal]

and i have world made of terrain atlaas

[limpid sequoia]

yassssssss

[limpid sequoia]

ok

[rancid seal]

Where is atlas terrain

[limpid sequoia]

can't recognise it, do you

Cloud real

[rancid seal]

I miss my ultra rtex sadar

[limpid sequoia]

i'm obssesed with it

i mean my Bet-tuh RTX sadar

Yuoray

[rancid seal]

What does the word "obssesed" mean?

I see it for the first time

[limpid sequoia]

🗿

really

[rancid seal]

I am not joking...

I am not english, bro

[limpid sequoia]

i'm not too

[severe grove]

одержимый

I translated

[rancid seal]

Ty

[severe grove]

Idk if it's right or no

[rancid seal]

Hmm

[limpid sequoia]

obssesed means you think about something all the time and can't stop

[severe grove]

Он имеет в виду, что он одержим RTX

The power of translate

[limpid sequoia]

🗿

[rancid seal]

I didn't need this thing to be translated, but ok

[severe grove]

Ok

[limpid sequoia]

u need to know that word

just suggestion

[rancid seal]

I am about to cut out vv from my game

[severe grove]

Wdym

[rancid seal]

I mean I am about to remove vv from my game

[severe grove]

How

[limpid sequoia]

it's just up to you 🗿 🗿🗿

[rancid seal]

I think I can do this trough this interseting folder

[severe grove]

Cool

[rancid seal]

Nvm, I don't know which material bins are made for vv

[limpid sequoia]

[severe grove]

Now try to remove fancy, simple, and vv

[rancid seal]

Those i think

[severe grove]

Thing that left is RTX

[limpid sequoia]

not enough

[severe grove]

Can you share that file to me?

[rancid seal]

I can leave RTX bin files, so other things aare removed

[rancid seal]

Do you know what ForwardPBR maaterial bin files are for?

RTX stuff is easy to find

[limpid sequoia]

just like hybrid rendering

[severe grove]

Interesting File

[rancid seal]

How do I use deferred beta

I need it

[rancid seal]

Metalness, nothing to do with roughness :(

[blazing whale]

Rtx seder forever 🔥

[limpid sequoia]

rtex sadar no lag no clickbait

[rancid seal]

Copper golem metalness effect

[limpid sequoia]

🗿

where

[rancid seal]

Eyes are glowing too

[rancid seal]

You can clearly see copper golem absorpting sunlight.

[limpid sequoia]

a u kidding me

[rancid seal]

Look at the difference

Same model, same texture

And iron golem with this 3d effect

[limpid sequoia]

i've posted too much rtx

[rancid seal]

Villagers without clothes hell yeah

AND FIX THIS FREAKING GRASS

:3

[half nacelle]

Bro☠️🙏

Js why

[half nacelle]

Eritexis

[white willow]

Rats are racing

Old image but I removed skylight diffuse contribution and it gave neat looking effects (RTX)

[half nacelle]

Eyes always glowed, btw, bcs of Bloom, but Bloom was so weak that it's more noticeable now, or did you add it?

[half nacelle]

Ts is good

Why doesn't Luminous "Lucid" Dreams have Godrays?

[rancid seal]

I didn't made the effect too strong, as it would make copper golem eyes completely white

[white willow]

Same thing but now the sky is actually contributing nothing color wise

Sunlight GI puts in a lot of work lol

[rancid seal]

Terrain atlas is tracing

[white willow]

Rats stopped racing

[rancid seal]

Terrain is still atlasing

[white willow]

Well yea I was in release so

[limpid sequoia]

NOPE

u use UPPERCASE i use too

[rancid seal]

WHY

It is not hard to fix

Changing blockshapes and it is done

[half nacelle]

Water got into my internet cable from the rain out of nowhere gys☠️🙏

[rancid seal]

Lol

Happens sometimes ig

[half nacelle]

It's never happened to me in my life btw

First time

[tribal trail]

shadows are too dark here

[tribal trail]

i like it

[tribal trail]

why not

[rancid seal]

Fixing grass = writing 6 lines of code

[tribal trail]

oof

[tribal trail]

yeah but why

[white willow]

That's the point. Skylight contributes nothing

Normally skylight balances it out but I turned off skylight diffuse for funnies

[tribal trail]

ahh

[rancid seal]

Because grass stops looking ugly

[tribal trail]

that makes sense

[tribal trail]

what if someone likes ugly grass

[rancid seal]

Ok

[tribal trail]

oK

[rancid seal]

[limpid sequoia]

poor thing

[rancid seal]

[dense elm]

[limpid sequoia]

Don't need to fix, just delete and this warning is for you

[dense elm]

That looks cursed

[limpid sequoia]

because of rtex

i also can see the face of it

[rancid seal]

I cannot use RTX even on stable lol

Because Mojang didn't learn how to do memory for their render dragon

Once I reload the world, the blocks or entities or environment textures are getting pink-glithed

I removed like 50% of resource packs and still this thing

Nvm I somehow fixed it

[rancid seal]

Because he didn't fix grass, ive asked him to do that

[rancid seal]

Oh yeah this thing is now officialy in minecraft release in rtx

This thing is not added properly, so I use it as the end sun

It used to be the end flash

And it looks like that without modifying the texture and with using vanilla end fog

Good thing is thaat thing works just like sun object, making glow effect, but no light source is attached, becuase it will require mojang touching some shader code

Although the only thing why are those working is because the end flash is basically the sun, it just works like that

I am pretty sad this thing doesn't have any animations :(

[half nacelle]

Ts is looking so ahhhh

[half nacelle]

Js why 😭🙏

[rancid seal]

Huh

Wdym by saying why?

[half nacelle]

U had other ways and options to do something about this new feature, and you give me a sun at the end 😭🙏

Ts look so cursed

[rancid seal]

End sun is cool

[half nacelle]

I think it's very cursed.

[rancid seal]

Or do you prefer vanilla end flash texture lmao

[half nacelle]

Ya

Lmao

Limão

Lmao

Limão

[half nacelle]

Lemon in Portuguese gys

[rancid seal]

Do you really enjoy seeing this #1182091012177399809 message ?

[half nacelle]

Bro, but you went overboard and made a huge mess, didn't you-

[half nacelle]

Like, look at the difference in glow from here.

[half nacelle]

For that

[rancid seal]

What do you mean? That screenshot shows how this thing works in vanilla Minecraft, vanilla rtx, without any changes

[half nacelle]

No way

Mojang would never officially endorse this abomination.

[rancid seal]

This thing exists tho

[half nacelle]

Btw add a black hole to it, it will look nicer.

[rancid seal]

Looks ugly for me as it doesn't even have animation

Just a flying end sun with end flash texture

Funnt

Funny

[half nacelle]

Ahhhhh

[rancid seal]

The only thing that makes it good is using some volumetric fog imo

[half nacelle]

What did you do Mojang?

(I don't have a picture of JJK's Higuruma)

[rancid seal]

Why are you even worried about that? You don't use rtx, do you?

[half nacelle]

Ya u right

But it looks cursed.

Rlly cursed

[rancid seal]

But basically, thos happens becuase moajng have added end flashes to fancy

This*

My auto corrector replaces "this" with "thos"

Hate it

[half nacelle]

Btw some of JS and particles and u can do physical path tracing via software, so I don't care much about RTX.

[silent zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/son-higuruma-jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-higuruma-son-gif-17328030622248508899

[rancid seal]

Lmao some laggy Chinese shadows add-ons

[half nacelle]

Thx

[rancid seal]

You will not be able to use an add-on to make path tracing at this point

[half nacelle]

Holy crap, I thought that didn't exist in the Bedrock community

[half nacelle]

Bcs?

[rancid seal]

Becuase its not how shaders work

If you try to do this, tour device will explode

[half nacelle]

It's simple, particles

And also raycasting

And also Frustum Culling

Radius limit

[rancid seal]

Rendering millions of particles funny hell yeah

[half nacelle]

Batting limit

[half nacelle]

Lil bro, do you want me to blow up my phone? ☠️🙏

7 It's enough, at least I think so.

[rancid seal]

If you try to do path tracing with particles, that's what you are going to face lol

[half nacelle]

Hell no, just make a radius limit.

And also Frustum Culling

And also global illumination for the rest of the chunks outside the player's FOV.

[rancid seal]

Your phone will explode too

[half nacelle]

And also manual batch rendering of particles.

[half nacelle]

Just do a manual batch.

There is a limit to the number of particles that can be rendered each time we render.

[rancid seal]

Becuase you are still trying to render millions of particles. It will look worse than vv and your performance...

[half nacelle]

And why would you want to use VV with Path Tracing?

[rancid seal]

Because you are trying to do impossible things. Re-creating the entire path tracing with particles, this is just impossible

[half nacelle]

Impossible?

It's just a matter of opinion for me, btw

[rancid seal]

You will never get a good looking thing if you try to do that

Or try to render millions of particles :3

And also, you cannot do this because running commands in the script has some delays and linkts, so you will never get the stuff work

[half nacelle]

It's simple logic: create rays of sun across the player's entire field of view (FOV) from the sun, with 7 or more rays, the bounce limit (when hitting the final block, create new rays from the block's position). Reflections via blocks beneath the patterns, which are activated and deactivated, frustum culling, if needed to avoid rendering particles outside of frustum culling, batch rendering to limit performance.
In summary, a simple calculation of 7 x 2 (7 rays and 2 reflections) gives a total of 14 rays, for example.

[rancid seal]

Mobiles cannot run ultra rtex sadars

[half nacelle]

Just run the script tick by tick, which eliminates the delay.

Or not put it in real time either.

Btw

[half nacelle]

Why does Google Translate ignore the word "sun"? 😭🙏

[rancid seal]

And when you do that, the only thing you can get are those 7 particles

[half nacelle]

Bcs?

It will generate others based on the block's position.

And the limit of how far the radius will go will be at Frustum Culling.

By the way, the same logical idea applies to depth of field, motion blur, etc., only the way it's applied and the amount of things used changes.

[half nacelle]

PDOF actually btw

Pyhsically Depth Of Field

[rancid seal]

If we look into your logics, you create 7 rays. Those ray are going to be calculated very slowly or not going to be calculated at all because of scripting apis. The only thing you left to do is to dectect when the ray bounces. Okay, the ray is calculated, but nothing shows. You will see vanilla graphics

[half nacelle]

Or PDBF

[half nacelle]

Simply put, from the position where the ray is generated = particles

By the way, JS isn't that slow, only on a server.

[half nacelle]

Wherever it hits = shadows behind and in front of the block, and to the sides as well if needed, etc.

[rancid seal]

And you get weirdly looking 7 white (or whatever colour you choose) rays. 7 rays that can bounce and now what?

[half nacelle]

It's like calculating the depth of a punch.

[half nacelle]

Nah?

[rancid seal]

Yeah?

[half nacelle]

Adjusting transparency, color, etc., can make it seem like general transparent light.

[rancid seal]

You just told me you want to create 7 or more rays

So you get those rays

[half nacelle]

And?

And

[rancid seal]

So you get 7 weird looking rays made of random particles

[half nacelle]

Hell nah

[rancid seal]

Fancy world with weird lines

[half nacelle]

Hell nah

[rancid seal]

You get what you have said. Nothing more.

[half nacelle]

U visual taste is complicated.

[rancid seal]

Becuase I see you are trying to do impossible things

7 rays can't suddenly become 1000 rays or something like that

You can never get ultra rtex sadar using add-on

If you even manage to do so, your phone will explode

[pale urchin]

Is somebody describing software rendering but worse?

[blazing whale]

🗿

[half nacelle]

Ik

But 7 is enough to look good, and 7 is better than not opening it at all.

[pale urchin]

what are you suggesting here? Can you start from the top?

[severe grove]

trying to understand what the VV/RTX experts are typing

[scarlet gust]

@half nacelle is trying to simulate RTX via software with particles.

And it's probably not going to go well.

[severe grove]

What are ya typin bro?

[scarlet gust]

Ray tracing is meant to run through GPU acceleration with dedicated RT cores.

Not CPU acceleration.

And there's a very good reason why.

[limpid sequoia]

[severe grove]

Vv?

[limpid sequoia]

yes

[willow needle]

And learn

[severe grove]

Not easy

[limpid sequoia]

everything always taking time

i have been working on my projects almost 1 year already

[willow needle]

yes and strawberry starting from 2024 for Vibrant Visuals (previously called Deferred)

[severe grove]

Yea, ik that strawberry deferred

[limpid sequoia]

[scarlet gust]

Ray tracing traces millions of rays and calculates reflections, refractions, and diffusion until they hit a virtual camera, where the data is processed with a tonemapper and displayed on your monitor. All of the light calculations are done through RT cores that are dedicated for ray tracing and nothing else for optimal performance in ray tracing. However, that's extremely oversimplified, and there's much more to it.

[blazing whale]

Not hard 🗿

[wind pollen]

[wise hinge]

[scarlet gust]

I like the first image

[limpid sequoia]

thanks

[wise hinge]

I wish I could decrease the density of vol fog underwater. :((

[limpid sequoia]

[rancid seal]

@limpid sequoia did you fix grass

[limpid sequoia]

Yassssssssssssssss

[severe grove]

I know that one, but ray tracing traces million if rays? I thought it was Path Tracing. I thought Ray Tracing only traces one ray

[rancid seal]

Lmao

[rancid seal]

Lol we would have 1 line in out screen if that was truth

[severe grove]

What line?

[rancid seal]

Exactly 1 ray

[severe grove]

Ooh

What is "mipmapping"?

[jagged badge]

It is a form of anti-aliasing done at the level of textures. Progressively smaller copies of a texture are generated and then applied the further away the rendered face is from the camera, or when oblique to the camera angle. The smaller texture has less information, which aligns better with the reduced surface area on the screen that the face occupies. This notably minimizes Moire patterns

[wise hinge]

[inland vault]

So
Being apart from Graphics general, now this is:
Cat general
Dawg general
Memes general
Emoji general
:Dawg_smurk: general
:CatSmurkW: general
Hi general

[limpid sequoia]

[inland vault]

https://tenor.com/view/zwiblezep-phi-beyblade-beyblade-burst-gif-12886784503727081102

[limpid sequoia]

dawg

[inland vault]

[white willow]

Not exactly. The explanation of path tracing isn't exactly the best but

Path tracing in most real time scenarios is only 1 sample - 4 samples. And usually only cast 1 ray. More rays of course give more accuracy but you lose performance with each additional ray

I'm not gonna be the best at explaining this since alot around PT still goes over my head

[severe grove]

Ok, thx

For the explanation

[severe grove]

But why Ray Marching and Ray Casting not very popular like Ray Tracing or Path Tracing?

[white willow]

Ray casts aren't really used for lighting

[severe grove]

So it's like MSAA or FXAA?

[white willow]

Mc uses ray casts to detect what block your looking at

[severe grove]

But diffrent?

[white willow]

And raymarching is used a lot. SSR is raymarched, volumetric fog/clouds are raymarched

[severe grove]

Yes, i see the references on google it not about lighting

[severe grove]

I searched it on google, but what i found only a random circle, what was that mean?

[white willow]

Huh

I mean raymarching can do alot of things

[severe grove]

Like this

What was that mean?

[white willow]

It's showing 4 different steps, and at each step it does something

So the first step is a big search, then each step after gets smaller and more precise till it hits something

[severe grove]

Ohh ok i get it now

Thank you so much

[white willow]

In the case of fog for example, everytime a ray hits a scattered particle it'll add fog all the way until the ray goes out of its designated area

Usually the ray is just hitting everything in that case

For screenspace tracing (whether it's reflections or GI) the ray goes until it hits a solid surface then compared the depth of the ray, to the depth of the scene to ensure it actually hit something

It's very cool stuff

[jagged badge]

No; while both mip-mapping and MSAA are techniques to reduce aliasing in an image, these are fundamentally different concepts and take entirely different routes to get there. You can combine both techniques to great effect.

MSAA, FXAA, and other spatial anti-aliasing methods operate at the time pixels are drawn to the screen. Their goal is to make sense of the information that will be drawn to the screen.

(Whether that is as a post-processing effect or done earlier depends on the technique)

Mip-mapping instead has an effect on the information itself (the data that is to be pulled from); the textures on a given rendered face are a lower resolution, increasing the surface area of a given space of color on the face.

[white willow]

Not sure if this image shows it well

[jagged badge]

It does. In Plague's example, the checkerboard squares further from the camera are rendered with less detail; there is less chance of nearby pixels picking a different color. It should look homogenously gray in the back, since that is the average color of the checkerboard pattern.

Indeed, the mapped texture at lower resolution might look fuzzy and tend towards gray

[white willow]

MSAA is kinda like mipmapping in the sense of it blends different resolutions together, but instead of lower res, it's a higher res image blended multiple times into the regular image

But they are not the same

And instead of per texture it's for the current screen coords

[limpid sequoia]

on 26.20 stable

the hell

time set 0 still normal

[white willow]

FXAA is not related at all. FXAA does some edge detection and from there blurs the edges out to smooth the image. It's very simple and light weight and doesn't usually work that well but it helps enough. Mix it with some TAA and it's golden

[white willow]

Actually i might be wrong im thinking of super sampling. MSAA i think blends the same information into itself multiple times

[jagged badge]

MSAA takes multiple samples at pixels, right? That would make it a form of super sampling

[white willow]

From what I'm reading no it's not super sampling

MSAA does 3D edge detection and takes multiple samples around the edges to smooth out the scene

Super sampling afaik involves a higher res image, which MSAA doesn't do

So like if you're at 1080p for example, and you do 2x super sampling, it'll basically run the scene at 1440p

Errr I don't think 1440p is 2x

But you get the idea

But your primary res is still 1080

It's kinda the same idea as modern upscaling tech just upscaling runs the scene at a lower res and scales it to your main

[blazing whale]

why ertiex seder error

[limpid sequoia]

[cobalt valve]

Why is the sky black?

Did you code it wrong?

[limpid sequoia]

bug from betterrtx when i used /daylock

[cobalt valve]

Well,
Once VV had the black sky issue before version 1.21.123 if I'm not mistaken

[limpid sequoia]

that's GPU issue

[limpid sequoia]

Noise

[cobalt valve]

I think that is too much fog

[limpid sequoia]

my preference

[cobalt valve]

I keep it low so that my view doesn't get obscured by the fog every 30 seconds (when I'm in the hunt for elytras.)

[willow needle]

Strawberry Photorealistic (Gold block)

[cobalt valve]

Great Design.

[willow needle]

thank

[limpid sequoia]

[severe grove]

Well i know the difference of both image now i know

[severe grove]

Is mipmapping make more lag like anti-aliasing?

[severe grove]

Yes i see it, clearly

[jagged badge]

Hm, broadly I would think not. Mip-mapping might consume more texture memory, and the engine has to assign the textures when needed, but I suspect this has become a pretty cheap operation with time

I recommend doing some research on it instead of taking my word for it

[severe grove]

Alright, but thank you so much

You wasted your time to talk with this idiot, so your a good guy

Btw respect to all people on this server to explain all things to me

[jagged badge]

All learning starts with ignorance; it is my pleasure to teach

[severe grove]

Tysm 🙏

[half nacelle]

It's quite possible, actually, the problem is that y'all visual opinion is the opposite of mine.

[fading kindle]

holy s

[wise hinge]

Yum RTX fix

[quasi trench]

):

[quasi trench]

i won’t lie that if i decided to go for rtx i’d be an rtx stan too

but only for betterrtx

[limpid sequoia]

i've waited for this for 5 minutes
yasssss

[rancid seal]

I was showing that nicknames bug was fixed

[tribal trail]

oh my god

[silent zealot]

Maybe we shouldn't have put prizma on the marketplace.

[tribal trail]

why

i love new heightmaps bug feature on entities

[silent zealot]

Why she hitting the Soldier Boy?

https://klipy.com/gifs/solider-boy-explodes--k01KQZBKRWQ3VFNCWXZ90N3T4KB

[silent zealot]

What the hell is going on in the background?

[tribal trail]

don't ask questions you don't wanna know

[rancid seal]

I love vv now

[pale urchin]

I don't know why, but that looks tasty

[graceful iron]

pool tiles

[sonic canopy]

Got the new RTX UV changes implemented, still need to fix the heightmaps tho

[limpid sequoia]

[sonic canopy]

New heightmap format is quite neat

[long ruin]

Whats different?

[limpid sequoia]

is that raytracing?

looks good

[sonic canopy]

Yeah it is, thanks

uh, looks like RTX is also affected by this

ig it probably depends on texture format

[limpid sequoia]

[sonic canopy]

Instead of storing a black & white heightmap in the block atlas, bedrock now stores a colored texture, where the color of each pixel tells the slope towards its neighbours. 4 color channels (RGBA) - 4 neighbouring pixels. Quite an elegant solution to texture atlasing. On the other hand, mojang had to use 3 extra color components and they have no more available PBR texture channels left, so if they ever wanted to introduce another PBR texture layer, they'd have to add another texture to the atlas. Also, making POM with heightmaps in custom shaders now became much harder, as heightmaps don't store the height directly anymore but rather just store the slope of pixels and it's quite difficult to get back the height from a slope

I feel like there had to be a different way to implement this tho, while keeping the greyscale heightmaps. Like they already have a bias stored in the UV, why not use that to tell when a fragment is too close to an edge, and then clamp the UV 0.5 pixels away from it

[willow needle]

Remake Netherite into Painite (rare mineral materials)

[wind pollen]

[severe grove]

When MC trailer are playable:

[rancid seal]

Currently developing my rtx resource pack for trailer...

I tried using this one with vv too, it doesn't work well :p

Preview version os already available tho

[severe grove]

Hope it going well 🙂

[rancid seal]

Ty

[rancid seal]

Made grass blocks light absorption effect

[half nacelle]

Tungsten would be the closest option.

Btw it's good.

[half nacelle]

NOOOOOOOOOOO, THEY'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE WAY THEY DO HEIGHTMAPS 😭🙏

[half nacelle]

Goated

I love this highlighted Heightmap style.

I want to see the lighting and the 3D effect; I don't want to see the light on the heightmap go by completely flat😭🙏

[rancid seal]

POM is not for bedrock

[white willow]

they will still look the same, its just handled differently

[tribal trail]

What do you mean by new format

[sonic canopy]

It's just how it is stored internally, don't worry about it

[tribal trail]

Oooh

Okay

[rancid seal]

Not new vv feature :3

[sonic canopy]

Also applies to VV

It was added there first a few previews ago which is what caused the atlas bug, RTX was updated only in yesterdays preview

[rancid seal]

@sonic canopy i don't get one thing I've been thing about for a while. Is that truth that rtx was able to read vv sun angle in the past?

I mean changing sun angle trough configs made for vv

[sonic canopy]

Yeah, VV sun angle config influenced RTX. A lot of parameters in RTX are actually controllable and not hardcoded, they are just not exposed to resource packs. Same with VV

[rancid seal]

But only sun texture position was changed, wasn't it? From what I know, sunlight is not getting affected by loaded sun angle

[tribal trail]

Sunlight used to be affected, both sun texture and lightning was affected

[sonic canopy]

I think there was some kind of bug like that in vanilla MCRTX, but we fixed it in betterrtx

[quasi trench]

this actually is kinda cool looking

too bad it doesn’t fit prizma

[shrewd glacier]

Helo, may I know, are you using vibrant visual graphic or RTX pack for this?

[rancid seal]

The thing that is hard to believe that when deferred sun angle was loaded to rtx, sunlight was never affected

Using better rtx of course will fix that

[tribal trail]

there was, sunlight would flip in certain time of the day

but sun angle and keyframes worked great

[rancid seal]

In what version this thing was working?

I will install it for sure

And keyframes on fogs are still in rtx

And why the fuck do they remove what shouldn't be removed, no one asked them to fix this thing

[tribal trail]

that was a thing long time ago

maybe before vv was released?

idk

[rancid seal]

It's like when they patched block item PBR loading

That was happening thanks to deferred

I really hope they don't patch keyframes on fogs

[rancid seal]

Before vv was released? I remember times when deferred sun angle was loaded to rtx, but it was working only for sun texture 😭

I liked the sun angle, but I didn't oile that the sunlight is not affected. This is the thing they patched I think

I didn't even notice how it was patched

But I am sad deferred wasn't available in fully vanilla unoatched minectaft, I always wanted to test it

[tribal trail]

it was a thing in 2023

cubeir made a few posts about it

[rancid seal]

I remember deferred sun angle being loaded to rtx I think in 2024

We never asked them to fix that

Mojang being mojang

Fixing stuff no one asked them to fix

As usual

[rancid seal]

If it was a new glitch and was patched recently, I would probably switch to java 😭
Or maybe not

[rancid seal]

This is kinda sad actually. When looking at the lack of features in rtx, it is always sad to understand that rtx can always look better, only if they allowed us to change those parameters.

[limpid sequoia]

hi! that was Vibrant Visuals

[scarlet gust]

I'm finally making my own RTX resource pack!

[willow needle]

Added roughness effect to mers on Emerald block (thanks to previous suggestion from QuirkyPlague)

[limpid sequoia]

holy Mother of God 🗿

[willow needle]

in this case i will choose to use normalmap

[pale urchin]

What's the difference

[cobalt valve]

First one is slightly greener than the second one

[limpid sequoia]

what's wrong

[blazing whale]

Canvas pbr 🗿

[quasi trench]

it’s so nice to be able to run VV in 4K without insane tanking

all medium settings 14 chunks makes sure i don’t go below 50fps

in heavier situations

[limpid sequoia]

lmao

[tropic rampart]

Remove RTX, VV and Fancy imo

We need only simple

[pseudo pawn]

why is rtx even still a thing 😭

[rancid seal]

Shut up

Rtx support was never over, it is being supported, looks good, and get bug fixes.

Basically a graphics mode designed to bring realism to Minecraft for people with devices with RTX graphics cards

There are 0 reasons for it to be removed

If RTX gets removed, I will switch to java

[pseudo pawn]

I shouldnt argue with a guy called RTX ON FOREVER about rtx 😭

[rancid seal]

[scarlet gust]

RTX shows the full graphics capabilities of Minecraft, so people with high-end hardware can experience Minecraft in full realism while still keeping the Minecraft feel.

It was the product of many years of research and development at NVIDIA, and there's absolutely no reason to remove it.

[viscid moth]

SON 😭😭

Is Nvidia paying you

[tribal trail]

True

[tribal trail]

You shouldn’t say that in a place with many rtx fanglirls

[tribal trail]

Don’t be mean to people here

[blazing whale]

🗿

[pseudo pawn]

Im noticing, the rtx warriors are at my doors already

[viscid moth]

😭😭😭😭 rtx fangirls

[limpid sequoia]

i hope i would never touch MERs again

it took me a lot of my time

[willow needle]

Yes

[limpid sequoia]

[rancid seal]

I do whatever I want

[limpid sequoia]

skyblock and forrealium rtex sadar

[rich sorrel]

Test Map color Light Rtx Shadow

[limpid sequoia]

[limpid sequoia]

lmfao

[sonic canopy]

Rtx is cool imo, very easy to mod

[willow needle]

I think rtx lovers blocked you :v

[limpid sequoia]

i've blocked him

[rancid seal]

i've blocked him

[rancid seal]

64 chunks render distance, classic landscape

[pseudo pawn]

Considering the stuff I've seen from you, yeah- absolutely incredible! My thoughts were more related to cost vs profit, as not a lot of people can use it and vv exists. But I'll be quiet

[blazing whale]

i've blocked him🗿

[rancid seal]

@pseudo pawn sorry for being rude, i just cannot prevent myself from becoming agressive when some "not good" stuff is being said about RTX

[willow needle]

Nice

[limpid sequoia]

thank you i decided to back to natural theme because the previous is too warm

[iron moon]

Is ur pack available

Of

🤖

[wise hinge]

yes but showcasing an unreleased version :3

[rancid seal]

[scarlet gust]

[deft cradle]

Rtx on

Vv off

[blazing whale]

Truly rtx lover 🗿

[tribal trail]

can you not ping me?🧐

[tribal trail]

you too, that message was sent a long time ago, no need to reply and ping me

[wise hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/mèo-troll-buồn-khóc-gif-15310748970221777264

[fossil otter]

ok wierd thing here, why is it when i set the sun angle in VV for a global effect at a certain degree in the sky, swamp biomes just ignore this and the sun goes back to default until i leave the biome again. Am i missing something?

[limpid sequoia]

make sure u have added the component for swamp in cilent_biome

but wait, that's strange

[limpid sequoia]

🗿

[fossil otter]

not entirely sure what that is but ill dig into it 😅

sorry, somewhat new to this stuff still

[rich sorrel]

Inspired build by screenshot vanilla vibrant visual Cubecair

[limpid sequoia]

i see

[inland vault]

I think you used the wrong block here

You used the redstone lamp
Use the copper bulb instead

[scarlet gust]

Several of your blocks are the wrong blocks, and your FOV is completely incorrect.

[rancid seal]

Block me if you don't like smth. I know I am being rude, but I am too annoyed to say smth else

[pseudo pawn]

huh that was easy...

[limpid sequoia]

yeah!

[rancid seal]

2 imposters

[limpid sequoia]

For me, fill-in the blocked account list make me feel better than ever

just one word then +1 blocked account

oh, i'm also making a streak

[rancid seal]

@pseudo pawn hope you get mentally damaged soon

[wise hinge]

japanese castle

[limpid sequoia]

it is!

[rancid seal]

What is this map called? I need to test it with rtx

[severe grove]

What is this map called? I need to test it with vv

[limpid sequoia]

lemme send u in DMs

[severe grove]

Ok

[severe grove]

Maybe you and me the only people who never try "Ray Tracing" lol

[limpid sequoia]

i don't cartoonish style anymore

just normal is fine

[rancid seal]

Ure are so trash

💀

Bro planned a lot of ways to ragebait me

[severe grove]

😌

[limpid sequoia]

[severe grove]

Thing that Java can't and never can do. That's why i love bedrock

Java proud of their "Ray Tracing Shader" meanwhile it didn't really need RTX gpu

[rancid seal]

Yay minecraft RTX

With refractions

[severe grove]

It's your video btw

Tysm for the documentation

[rancid seal]

Wait really?

When

[severe grove]

Yes

11 month ago

[rancid seal]

Old version of my resource pack 😭

[severe grove]

Lol

But it still looks good

[rancid seal]

Should probably make a new video lol

[severe grove]

Your last video is 3 month ago

[rancid seal]

Yeah, don't like to post videos a lot, and too lazy to edit them for hours sometimes

[severe grove]

Oh

It's ok

Can someone tell me how to tell Java player that Bedrock is the G.O.A.T?

Yea the G O A T
R F L I
E L M
A E
T
E
S
T

[severe grove]

PBR is very cool

[limpid sequoia]

thank you mate!

it's for simple series

[severe grove]

:emoji_8:

[severe grove]

Wait.... it should be an RTX map. How do you get that!?

[severe grove]

You saying that?

[pseudo pawn]

Why did you respond to the same message twice and pinged me 😭

I finally understand why rtx is still a thing, else Mojang would've received a lot of spontaneously combusting packages in their mail..

[severe grove]

What? I only reply you once

I'm planning to buy a PC. Using GPU AMD Radeon RX 6600 XT. To play Minecraft Ray Tracing BetterRTX. How much FPS will i get?

[pseudo pawn]

42

[severe grove]

Wow, very spesific

Maybe it's enough

[white willow]

Who's gonna tell him

[white willow]

Let's clear up a misconception here btw, just because it doesn't need at HWRT capable card does not mean it's not raytracing or that it's "fake raytracing". The raytracing shaders on Java are very much real raytracing. It uses software acceleration rather than hardware acceleration like BRTX, but it's still path tracing. Path tracing is path tracing

https://youtu.be/EY8-sH0dpLg?si=bnoAdqokCaCdlPhu

Like some of yall gonna look at this and say it's fake raytracing cuz it runs without needing an RTX gpu

[half nacelle]

The atmosphere was very smoky.

[languid mirage]

Possibly the cleanest Path Tracing I have seen yet for a Java shader

[white willow]

Yea Belmu is cracked

It's pretty damn smooth too

They develop on a Radeon 6600XT

And almost push 60fps

At 1440p iirc

[limpid sequoia]

[rancid seal]

Idk why the moon in minecraft trailer is just a white square but ok

[quasi trench]

not needing an rtx gpu is a plus lmao

[quasi trench]

[half nacelle]

Java can do this

You are unfamiliar with the world of Minecraft Java Shader settings.

Or rather, the underworld.

Or you know, you're talking about something else and I'm getting confused and I'm talking nonsense.

[half nacelle]

Ngl looks like chocapic

[white willow]

got bored and messed with RTX again

[rich sorrel]

Anyone have a map for shader/vibrant visual review?

[severe grove]

I've never seen a Java shader this beautiful. It's probably the only Java shader that can match BetterRTX Bedrock...

[severe grove]

By the way, thanks for the explanation. I'm sure Java really has Path Tracing shaders, Because the difference is very visible from regular shaders. But I'm not sure Java has real Ray Tracing Shaders because their Ray Tracing Shaders look ordinary, the lighting looks normal, nothing special from my observation, but yeah I don't know maybe I'm just stupid or what, but Java's Ray Tracing shaders look 'fake'. that's my opinion, if you don't accept it, that's okay. everyone accepts criticism.

[severe grove]

Yea Cubeir might be cooking when he make Vanilla Vibrant Visual

[severe grove]

Can you share me a video about Java shader with refraction in the water? I don't really know since i only play Java once. I searched all Ray Tracing Java shader and i didn't found it have any Refraction

[rich sorrel]

I like this pack

[fossil otter]

In regards to yesterdays question, are there other biomes that need manual configuration for sun angle?

[willow needle]

Strawberry Deferred V4.0 Rewrite Vanilla Realistic 256x now can run on Iphone XR

With blocks

[rich sorrel]

Ray tracing map with Vibrant Visual

[limpid sequoia]

depend on your preference

[fossil otter]

I still cant seem to pinpoint the swamp sun angle issue. Yet, when i load into editor mode, the swamps dont always reset the sun angle to 90 degrees. I am at a loss here

[limpid sequoia]

[fossil otter]

i figured this cant be the only biome doing this, but it totally is

[limpid sequoia]

yeah it is

the sun angle always being the same with global config

[fossil otter]

right, yet, swamp doesnt seem to follow that rule

[fossil otter]

and that is with just basic global config?

[limpid sequoia]

nope

i've made config for the swamp

[fossil otter]

But without that config, what happens?

[limpid sequoia]

that's still normal

[fossil otter]

Ill show you all what im talkin abt lol

at this point im goinng to have to gut what i did i think and start from scratch to compare results with myself

like, wtf

[limpid sequoia]

just create a new map

[fossil otter]

i just wanna pull my hair out really

[limpid sequoia]

wait

i can help you

that problem happens in Mesa biome too

[fossil otter]

-made a new map in editor
-changed mode to test world, located swamp biome, and teleported
-behavior did the same thing, sun would move positions when entering and exiting swamp and mangrove
-changed back to editor mode
-TPed myself back to those swamp coords and suddenly its behaving like wtf

does it really? I haven't tested that one yet

[limpid sequoia]

try don't make the pack with editor

try with manually first

[fossil otter]

??? What do u mean? haha

also this happens in regular Mc as well , when im not in editor version

like in my family realm, I see the swamp thing happen. Never noticed it until I fired up editor and started moving into a swamp. So I went back to regular Minecraft to check and sure enough it happened there too

[limpid sequoia]

yeah that's what i have just said

try with another map

[fossil otter]

I have

[limpid sequoia]

also check your config again

[fossil otter]

like 4 or 5 at this point, 3 brand new

nothing in config points to swamps, all global defaults

[limpid sequoia]

check your cilent_biome

[fossil otter]

see that's the part I dont understand, I know u mentioned it before the other day but no idea what that is 😅 im near noob level with vv

[limpid sequoia]

but everything always taking time

just try first

[fossil otter]

I dont think im using any sort of client_biome in my pack, not now anyway. Since im not modifying fog at this moment I didn't feel the need to get anything for client_biome

[limpid sequoia]

[limpid sequoia]

u need to have them

in biomes folder

[fossil otter]

how do I set them up?

Ah ok

[limpid sequoia]

in microsoft sample

[fossil otter]

even if i dont edit them from their default configs?

[limpid sequoia]

yes

[fossil otter]

huh, ok then, ill give that a shot in a few hours

its like 2 am here haha

[limpid sequoia]

doesn't matter if u have them or not, u still need them

i also don't have them before and i got really much issues

[fossil otter]

when I checked the swamp file for this it had no mention of offset angles for sun and moon, but had info for water colors and fog and such. Didn't think it mattered

but at this point ill try anything 😅

[limpid sequoia]

take a screenshot

[limpid sequoia]

it's not related

edit in lighting config

cilent_biome just for add components and more features for the biomes

[fossil otter]

ill get the screenshot and ping you tomorrow if youre ok with that 😅 just settled for bed

[limpid sequoia]

mine

[fossil otter]

oh wow

[limpid sequoia]

in cilent_biome

[fossil otter]

top pic is lighting file, bottom is the biome file?

[limpid sequoia]

that's the structure

[fossil otter]

OHHH

[limpid sequoia]

yep

[fossil otter]

"lighting identifier"

Christ, thats gotta be it right there in the biome file.

This is definitely far from intuitive eh lol

ill try it in a couple hours and give you the good word if it works!

[limpid sequoia]

u can also learn from others

i'm also learning from a lot of creators

and they have brought me this far

their pack also really really good

[fossil otter]

I was taking apart a few vv packs I found online to get me this far, and you certainly have been helpful with this particular problem of mine haha. Sorry, didnt mean to make this all directed at you , you've just been the only one to respond and knows what im talking abt😅

[limpid sequoia]

i see

[fossil otter]

so thank u lol

[limpid sequoia]

now try to solve the swamp issue :))

[fossil otter]

lol I shall 🫡

[limpid sequoia]

[limpid sequoia]

Just a demo pack

[rancid seal]

Cute

[limpid sequoia]

+1 Vibrant Legacy series i don't know why i have too much motivation for VV

[rancid seal]

End sun

[limpid sequoia]

[severe grove]

I want Depth Of Field on VV so bad 😭😭😭

[white willow]

Well Tbf you have to mod it in for RTX

[long ruin]

[cobalt valve]

[cobalt valve]

Who knows if it will be possible or not...

Even if it was possible, i am not sure about its impact on performance.

[severe grove]

What is "tbf" mean?

[white willow]

To be fair

[severe grove]

Maybe it will impact on performance

[severe grove]

Oh, ok thx

[cobalt valve]

Tbh i think the performance might fall by 10%

[severe grove]

I agree

[cobalt valve]

Plus
You said that you wanted some other things in VV earlier
If we think of that was well
The impact on performance could vary from moderate to high.

I think VV is good as it is now
We don't need any big changes anytime soon.

[white willow]

Depends on how it's implemented. But regardless something like dof would be a toggle and really only useful for screenshots anyway and if your goal is screenshots you already don't care about performance

If you use low samples for the dof blur, it's basically free

But it also depends on how you're doing it. A physically based dof would give better results but may be slower than an approximation (but physically based dof looks so good)

[cobalt valve]

That lowkey sounds good

But i think I'd use the low samples for the blur

[white willow]

All physically based bloom does is use actual camera functions like f/stops, aperture etc

So it works more like a camera

[limpid sequoia]

[half nacelle]

That's why I'm doing it, but I took a break for a while because I needed a rest from constantly having block recognition issues, camera bugs, or the JS simply not working.

[half nacelle]

Wait, just wait

[half nacelle]

Btw i want too 😭🙏

[half nacelle]

It depends on the phone and how you do it btw

I show up here once every 3 years ☠️🙏
Ts project js killed my desire to code btw

[rancid seal]

Lonely city with ultr rtex sadar feels more lonely

[fossil otter]

@limpid sequoia YOU MAD LAD

Your tip worked! Thank you SO damn much

Sun is no longer doing the wierd position swaps. It was indeed the lighting config inside the biome file

Upon further inspection I saw that most other biome configs all used default, but swamp had its own lighting plus its own sun positions. Wierd.

[scarlet gust]

stephenle19 is NOT madlad0

[fossil otter]

No no, it was meant as a title, like mad genius, or madman 😄

Stephen helped me figure out some VV issues

[white willow]

rats racing

[sonic canopy]

... why is default color grading not applied by default in VV? Do I really have to specify it for every biome?

[tribal trail]

What do you mean

[sonic canopy]

I have a RP with color_grading/color_grading.json only and nothing else, and it doesn't work. Only the tonemapper changes but everything else doesn't

[half nacelle]

For some reason, yes.

[rancid seal]

-# || :3 ||

[limpid sequoia]

[scarlet gust]

Autocorrect be like

[limpid sequoia]

[limpid sequoia]

-# LerianX Visuals development stage 1 - open sources

[quick beacon]

The colors here look really nice

[limpid sequoia]

awww thank you

[severe grove]

My phone launch in 2024, Samsung A16 5G 💀🙏

[severe grove]

Wait and ask Mojang is a bit impossible

[severe grove]

The 1st, and the 2nd pucture look like VV, but the 3rd was very good Ray Tracing, meanwhile the 4th picture looke like the combination of VV&RTX

[cobalt valve]

The clouds are a little too dark tbh

[wise hinge]

cuz im using low skylight intensity at that time
And I don't think clouds being dark at sunset is bad

[blazing whale]

a bug from the lighting that should enter the cloud (penetration) but can't

[willow needle]

Mossy bricks

[limpid sequoia]

[rich sorrel]

Name map?

[rancid seal]

Idk

Lol i foudn this thing

[ornate hollow]

can samsung galaxy s10+ exynos version enable vv?

[cobalt valve]

No
The Exynos version doesn't support Vibrant Visuals because it lacks certain architectural features compared to other Exynos CPUs.
Also, in the Exynos series, the GPUs that support VV is Mali-G68/G77 or higher. But your Exynos has a G76-MP12. It doesn't support VV.

[severe grove]

Game name pls 🙏

[severe grove]

Then what about my CPU?
Mali-G57 MC2

[limpid sequoia]

MCBE with LerianX Visuals (almost finished)

[severe grove]

What is Minecraft? 🙏

[severe grove]

What is Discord, and where i can download it?

[limpid sequoia]

😭

[severe grove]

Btw where is my keyboard

I can't type

How to type 🙏🥀

[limpid sequoia]

[severe grove]

Can you teach me how to speak in English?

[limpid sequoia]

Just speak

[severe grove]

Saya tidak tau cara berbicara menggunakan bahasa Inggris

[limpid sequoia]

🗿 hề

Just speak Eng

[severe grove]

Yea

[severe grove]

JK

I'm not that stupid

[limpid sequoia]

[silent zealot]

Malay or Indon.

[severe grove]

Indonesia

Mayority of Malay people can speak English fluently

[willow needle]

Spruce door (modern theme)

[severe grove]

Look like Japanese Theme

[limpid sequoia]

good

[willow needle]

i made japanese door (doraemon fan art style)

[severe grove]

Yeee that's very good

[willow needle]

This is still not very good, I'll tidy it up later

[severe grove]

"This is still not very good"

[limpid sequoia]

dawg

[half nacelle]

I tell myself to do it ☠️🙏

[willow needle]

yeah maybe i will do a normalmap reconstruction for that texture 🙃

[half nacelle]

Your phone will handle it btw, it has a stronger CPU and uses Frustum Culling and Batch processing.

[half nacelle]

I didn't think it was that good either, it lacks prominence, but btw it's still good.

[half nacelle]

It depends on your methods...

[rancid seal]

Guys is this okay to have a phobia of Minecraft RTX clouds?

[ornate hollow]

normal way

[half nacelle]

Nah

[half nacelle]

Nah

[iron moon]

vines

[iron moon]

z

[cobalt valve]

That one sits right below the official support threshold for Vibrant Visuals. In most cases, the option would be greyed out.

[willow needle]

Now better

[severe grove]

Thank god i can enable VV

Yo the notification

[rancid seal]

The main reason I don't use vibrant visuals is because im just not able to run it on my mobile. On pc, however, I have rtx, so I kinda don't need to use vv.

[limpid sequoia]

LerianX Visuals

[wind pollen]

@limpid sequoia good job. I really appreciate this pack.

[wind pollen]

Whats your phone model (sorry for ping)

[limpid sequoia]

thank you fact: i made this pack in 2 days

[noble tulip]

Whats the pack?

[humble drift]

At the same time we don't have pom 💔

[rancid seal]

Never apologize for ping to me 😭

I love getting them

My current mobile is infinix something something

[limpid sequoia]

[blazing whale]

you can add pom with custom shader

[humble drift]

I was talking about official support

[willow needle]

complementary

[limpid sequoia]

hehe

[rancid seal]

?

What was that

[limpid sequoia]

[blazing whale]

Stephen want to ask how to become rtx lovers 🗿

[rancid seal]

REALLY?!

[limpid sequoia]

😆

i'm married with Vibrant Visuals and have 4 kids already

[rancid seal]

WHAT

I HAVE 2

HOW

[inland vault]

I think this is how Vibrant Visuals should've looked like

[limpid sequoia]

i think so too!

[inland vault]

🗿

ɴᴏ ʟɪᴇ

[limpid sequoia]

Real!

🗿

[inland vault]

At this point you might be able to develop something for VV as a counterpart to BetterRTX.

[limpid sequoia]

yeah'

i'm also working on BetterRTX

[rancid seal]

Comparing to better rtx? You must be joking.

[inland vault]

I mean

Like making a "BetterVV"

I know that there is already a Better Vibrant Visuals Pack, but by this i mean a complete overhaul of the feature.

[rancid seal]

That's what catgamer was trying to do lol 😭

Ngl that was funny enough

[inland vault]

Did he even succeed? (||i expect a no..||)

[rancid seal]

I don't think so

[inland vault]

as i thought. Bringing a complete overhaul to the system would be challenging, and even if we got to do that, the other challenge is that how we install it in our Smartphones.

(It might not be like downloading a resource pack or an addon)

[inland vault]

I guess Mojang is working now....

[sonic canopy]

New folder for shaders gt added 👁️

[pale urchin]

so what's inside

[sonic canopy]

It's a surprise

(nothing)

Just a lonely materials.index.json