Graphics General

[quasi trench]

he did look at the atlas but noticed inconsistencies and some colors weirdly off

but some of it made it in

luckily for him the hardest part of starting all over from scratch is far done

though where you’re going is harder since he’s just releasing for vanilla graphics

[rancid seal]

I am re-creating textures based on what I see in trailers

So I don't use any scripts to create textures

I just pick the colour and start drawing... It is more comfortable for me

Like, here is all the stuff we haave

Also 0 animated textures frames, so I have to re-create those

The first version of my pack is not going to be... a huge one? I don't know. I think I will make a script that makes my life easier lol

[oblique gorge]

Playing around with colored lights and reflections in the RTX version of my pack!

[severe grove]

From cinematic fog turn into pathetic fog

[severe grove]

Looks good

[oblique gorge]

Thanks!

[wind pollen]

Noice

[scarlet gust]

So you aren't using the leaked trailer textures? Because if you go to help.minecraft.net/hc/en-us, click help-chat.CDXhepsc.svg, and use inspect element, the official Minecraft trailer texture pack is completely exposed and unencrypted.

[rancid seal]

Leaked atlas doesn't have entities textures and items texture, also 75% of textures in atlas are replaced with vanilla ones, that's what im re-creating...

[scarlet gust]

So Mojunk didn't leak all of their trailer textures?

[rancid seal]

Exactly. They didn't.

Because they only need half of the atlas in their trailer textures. Like, why do they need entity atlas if they don't have entities in merl workshop location?

So they only need block textures. But the atlas is still not full

[severe grove]

I found something weird when i use 3 resource pack RTX, it replace some elements blocks from education edition feature
I use 1. Defined PBR
2. Vanilla RTX
3. Kelly's conversion

[wind pollen]

Those who know

[limpid sequoia]

@blazing whale

[rancid seal]

Emissive maps, I guess? As point light aren't fixed yet.

[oblique gorge]

I haven't added emissive maps to the colored torches yet, only the base one. Does RTX use the old method?

[rancid seal]

Wdym old one?

[wind pollen]

Guess this shader
(Both are from one)

[limpid sequoia]

hmmm

[thorn bison]

complimentary?

[wind pollen]

Yes
Unbound one

1st one is water style set to default
Second one is water style set to Reimagined

Which one seems better?
1 or 2?
@limpid sequoia

[limpid sequoia]

1 ofc

[wind pollen]

Hm

[limpid sequoia]

the clouds looks weird

[oblique gorge]

The old pbr folder rather than the point lights one

[rancid seal]

RTX point lights are hard-coded, nothing you can do with them

[oblique gorge]

So are those torch colors just hard coded

[rancid seal]

Minecraft 1.21.120 has broken RTX point lights system. They fixed 50% of point lights. The regular torch colour is hard coded, coloured torches should be fine.

[oblique gorge]

Ok, sounds good

[wise hinge]

what happened to the clouds

[limpid sequoia]

the reason is i tried with rtx map so the clouds, lighting (only sunset at taiga biome) look like that

[wise hinge]

ah I thought you customized the vv code and make it look like that
though i like that

[limpid sequoia]

yeah! the clouds look great

i mean i'll try to make cubemap for that cloud with Blender

[rancid seal]

What is this map? Can VV be turned on there without mods? If so, whaat version are you using?

[limpid sequoia]

RTX map
Yes! without any mods
and i'm on 26.3

[rancid seal]

Wait......

[rancid seal]

Marketplace map?

[limpid sequoia]

yes!

[rancid seal]

WAAITTTTT

[limpid sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/guy-long-hair-mustache-magic-shia-labeouf-gif-17741293

[rancid seal]

This one, i guess?

[limpid sequoia]

yep! it is

[rancid seal]

Uhh... I can't do that.

[limpid sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/really-bitch-annoyed-face-stare-whatever-kid-gif-17309831

Turn on "Allow switching graphics mode bla bla" in video setting

[rancid seal]

Are you kidding me..?

[limpid sequoia]

i'm not

u have to do this

[rancid seal]

I wouldn't ve be able to switch graphics mode at all if i had this thig off

im not that stupid

[limpid sequoia]

i'm having dinner and i can't open my PC so just wait a moment

[limpid sequoia]

it's up to you

i had no idea

[rancid seal]

I can't use release version sadly

Idk it has this infinite loading thing

Microslop

They don't let me run game at all

[limpid sequoia]

look

that's rtx map

[white willow]

Anything in RTX can emit light if you give it an emission value. The torch colors aren't exactly hardcoded either. The color emitted is based on the color of the torch itself.

In an old pack of mine I made green soul torches and pink redstone torches and the point light on those was green and pink

But that was ages ago. I'm talking before VV was even in beta

[oblique gorge]

Ah, that makes sense. So if I were to have a texture that had a blue portion on it, if I added an emissive map on that blue portion, then the light would be blue?

[white willow]

I should clarify that torches work different from everything else. Torches lanterns and end rods use point lights meaning they can glow regardless of emission levels

Everything else emits light based on global illumination emission

But yes basically if you made a block blue, and gave it emission in the MER, it'll emit blue light

[oblique gorge]

👍

[white willow]

Example of this with candles

[oblique gorge]

I'll try adding more maps and testing point lights when I get home

Those look good too

[severe grove]

Bro who cuts the sky

[white willow]

Note that these candles do not use point lights. That is just raytraced lighting

[wind pollen]

Reality broke

[wind pollen]

Really?
But I've got no problems with the game
it loads perfectly on my phone.
Double check for any errors or smth similar.

[scarlet gust]

He's using a hybrid between RTX and Vibrant Visuals so of course stuff like this will happen

[severe grove]

Ooh

[severe grove]

You right, im using Vanilla RTX opus, Kelly's Conversion, and Defined PBR. In one world

[wind pollen]

Huh?
RTX-VV hybird?
.....

.....

(Processing)

[scarlet gust]

Actual RT capable hardware like my RTX 3080 won't have this issue

[severe grove]

Oh ok

Interesting

Wait 4-5 years (maybe) until i get RTX irl

[wind pollen]

What😭

What does your eyes see?

[severe grove]

Because my PC only have AMD radeon rx 570

[wind pollen]

I'd probably have to wait 2 more years until i get bedrock rtx
For now i just stick to shaders and maybe radiance as well.

[severe grove]

And my brother will go to college, and he will bring the computer. And he left old graphic card for me

It's GT 1030

🥀

[wind pollen]

Interesting :/

Gt 1030....
A very interesting relic

[severe grove]

Oh i remember, and my brother said i'll use intel core i3 that realase in 2011

[wind pollen]

Here I'm with a poor AMD RX 6500 XT

(4 GB)

[severe grove]

Is it enough to play a game?

[wind pollen]

Hmm
Vanilla Minecraft = yeah
Light shaders= also yeah

[severe grove]

Is it can run minecraft RTX?

[wind pollen]

No.
It doesn't support RTX.
The Minimum requirement is an RX 6600 or a RTX 2060

[severe grove]

Oh

RTX Minecraft is at least RTX 2050 or not?

[wind pollen]

And you need windows 10 too (but I'd recommend win11 as windows 10 doesn't have support from Microslop anymore)

[wind pollen]

I think yeah
Thats minimum requirement for laptop

[severe grove]

oh i just found out win11 can be used for minecraft rtx

[wind pollen]

both works

[severe grove]

I thought that win11 can't minecraft rtx

[wind pollen]

But for security go with win11
(Ignore this message if you already have win11)

[severe grove]

Yea i already have it

[wind pollen]

Then you only need to do these things:

Get an RTX GPU
have Minecraft Bedrock Edition
A PBR pack

Also I'd recommend having 16 GB of ram atleast

[white willow]

2050 or Radeon 6600 or any intel arc. Also a few AMD igpus can run RTX but not well

[limpid sequoia]

i have just updated to 26.10 and no static light

well

[wind pollen]

Hmmm

[quasi trench]

oh my screen tearing issue was fixed

not by enabling 120hz but enabling vsync again

and probably capping to 60

[limpid sequoia]

[wind pollen]

Vibrant viusaaaaaaaaallll

[limpid sequoia]

i'll fix the colour soon

[white willow]

yay static light in stable

what the fps with the laptop on perf mode

[limpid sequoia]

i think something wrong with my torch

[white willow]

whats up?

[limpid sequoia]

just like i used deep colour and it seems doesn't work

[white willow]

lemme check the identifier

[graceful iron]

173 is pretty good tbh

[white willow]

it should just be "minecraft:torch"

[white willow]

yea thats only underground

above ground it hits 80

maybe 80

which is higher than rtx in that regard

but

my desktop gets much more fps in rtx than vv, but not the case for my laptop

im just really wondering where the bottlenecks are

im wondering if vv just really isnt built to take advantage of higher performing hardware

[white willow]

"minecraft:torch": {
"light_color": [125,67, 38],
"light_type": "point_light"
},

try this

see if it works

[white willow]

interestingly, the new game Marathon has a similar issue. It runs amazing on lower end hardware and just kinda mid on upper tier

although VV performance i wouldnt say is amazing on lower end either

[limpid sequoia]

thanks for your help!

looks warm

[wise hinge]

[rancid seal]

@limpid sequoia thank you for making me understand how to bring back maarketplace maps PBR without better render dragon!

I had this idea in the past, but I somehoe didn't manage to do thaat lol

[scarlet gust]

Let's ignore the FPS for a moment. Why is your CPU almost at the boiling point of water? That thermal paste has probably fully dried out. Your system is probably thermally throttling and near the point of shutting down. You should replace that thermal paste with Honeywell PTM7950 unless your laptop is still under warranty.

[scarlet gust]

Meanwhile me averaging 140 FPS with 1% lows of 120 FPS on my anarchy server in 1080p with 24 chunks of render distance on my RTX 3080 16GB

[long ruin]

Ok

[scarlet gust]

When is Cat RTX 1.13 coming out?

[graceful iron]

Whenever I feel like it or want to work on CatRTX

[wise hinge]

Cat Visuals🥺 🥺

[scarlet gust]

I just realized why Vibrant Visuals even exists in the first place. Mojunk wanted to make something similar to RTX, but for mobile players and people that have GPUs without RT cores. As an owner of a PC with an RTX 3080 and an iPhone 17, I've personally used RTX on my PC and fancy graphics on my iPhone 17, but I might consider that thing ARD9988 was talking about earlier, where he created a hybrid between RTX and VV that could run on his phone.

@severe grove when running a hybrid between RTX and VV, do I have to change the capabilities in the metadata folder from raytraced to pbr?

[silk badge]

Mf you just realized this 😭

[scarlet gust]

I haven't previously used VV because the tonemappers suck (except for Reinhard when the contrast is boosted to 1.572 and the saturation is boosted to 1.31), the shadow quality sucks, the reflection quality sucks, and the water looks like oil, although I have a feeling that the RTX and VV hybrid ARD9988 created earlier might fix those problems and I'll finally have good graphics on my iPhone 17 in Minecraft.

I tried the RTX and VV hybrid. First of all, the tonemapper is a bit washed out, but at least there's no hue shifting, and I'll fix the tonemapper later. Second, the shadows look much better than shadows in other packs. Third, the reflections look amazing, and water doesn't look like oil. VV pack creators really need to learn from RTX pack creators.

I'll try to fix the tonemapper as soon as possible.

[sonic canopy]

Bruh

[limpid sequoia]

i'm wondering why Cluster Amethyst is not a block???

[wise hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[limpid sequoia]

look

[silent zealot]

Check the wiki.

[wise hinge]

i didn't say this to you though...

[wise hinge]

static light?

[limpid sequoia]

yes!

that's what i mean

[limpid sequoia]

i have just misunderstood, my bad sorry

[tribal trail]

Your obsession with tonemappers is scary

[wise hinge]

yea, check the wiki
(check block id)

real

[limpid sequoia]

why why why

it happened with Magma Block too

[wise hinge]

[limpid sequoia]

[willow needle]

on preview without any bugs (although the effect is slight)

on latest official mc is working normal with static light @limpid sequoia

[limpid sequoia]

i see

[willow needle]

I think you need check your json

[limpid sequoia]

nothing wrong with that

[willow needle]

Because I don't have error

[limpid sequoia]

the problem is the log said cluster amethyst is not a block

[blazing whale]

Try reinstall your mc stephen

[limpid sequoia]

[severe grove]

Sorry what?, i just running a hybrid RTX and VV and there you go just use it

[scarlet gust]

So I don't need to change any of the metadata?

[severe grove]

No

I even doesn't understand what is it

Wait

I'll take a bath

[wind pollen]

I've finally updated to 26.10, and i don't see any problems

I guess its very rare

[severe grove]

How come the child is bigger than the mother?

New update, new bug. GG Mojang

[severe grove]

Too bright

[wind pollen]

Nah
Just too foggy and sun bloom

But is it distinguishable from RTX?

[scarlet gust]

More Mojunk bugs

[wind pollen]

Fr

[severe grove]

Is this normal?

Is it true that we are not allowed to talk on that server? I want to download the latest version of MB Loader because the old one does not support the new Minecraft version that was updated yesterday.

[rancid seal]

Resource pack does something with chicken entity config

Scale component was removed from the entity code of animals, but custom resource pack have a config that still players big head animation and using regular chicken model

[rancid seal]

This boug is not connected to Mojang.

It is not their issue.

But shelfes yeah, moajng did something with them

[white willow]

For that it's Minecraft:magma

[limpid sequoia]

i did magma_block

my BAD

[white willow]

Yea it's not super obvious tbh

I think amethyst cluster is just "minecraft:amethyst_cluster"

[limpid sequoia]

lemme try
thank you!!!

[willow needle]

Strawberry Vibrant Enhanced V2.2

[limpid sequoia]

[wind pollen]

[severe grove]

So how to fix it

[wind pollen]

This in verification channel
But i didn't get any DM

[severe grove]

Alr

[wind pollen]

Ima rejoin

Ok i got verified this time
You have to read the rules first

[severe grove]

Yea same

The newest version of MB Loader is not support v1.26.20.21

[wind pollen]

MB loader is banned
Then how did u get it

[rancid seal]

Remove entity config from custom rp lol

[limpid sequoia]

u can install it via APK

[limpid sequoia]

you're welcome!

[blazing whale]

Change creeper to ghost entity 🗿

[rancid seal]

Minecraft bugs is Mojunk slop

[rancid seal]

(Do you know how I did this btw/atp?)

[limpid sequoia]

[limpid sequoia]

[rancid seal]

Uhhm..?

[limpid sequoia]

i don't know what are you talking about

[limpid sequoia]

[rancid seal]

Wdym emoji 50?

[limpid sequoia]

why do u ask me if i know your method or not?

[blazing whale]

🗿

[limpid sequoia]

when i'm not care about it?

[limpid sequoia]

[rancid seal]

I'm offended at you.

[limpid sequoia]

i did not mean

[rancid seal]

😭 😭 😭

[limpid sequoia]

[rancid seal]

Someone has very gud internet connection

[sonic canopy]

I remember someone, probably one of the Mojangsters like aaj or Matt, saying that VV was born from a single dev messing with RTX code during a vacation, or something like that, but I can't find that message anymore. Does anyone else remember that or am I hallucinating? Does anyone know how to find that message? Maybe it was deleted

[quick beacon]

Wasn't it part of the QnA?

[sonic canopy]

I think that was before qna

I specifically remember that it was about a single dev experimenting with RTX during a vacation, but nothing like that is in the qna

[tribal trail]

are you sure it was not a dream?

[sonic canopy]

I don't know 😭

I distinctly remember seeing it, but I can't find the message

[severe grove]

How do do it 🥀

[severe grove]

Maybe if you right, maybe that's the reason why i can use RTX extension in VV

[sonic canopy]

What do you mean by rtx extension?

[severe grove]

Clear water, glowing terracotta, luminosity, gliwing ore, etc.

RTX Mirror addon (but it a bit bug since it desinged for RTX)

[sonic canopy]

RTX resource packs can be used with VV yeah, they use almost the same PBR system and are generally compatible with each other

There is no mystery here, you are not running any ray tracing code or a combination of rtx and VV shaders, it is just vibrant visuals but with a texture pack designed for rtx

@scarlet gust you should see this as well

[pale urchin]

That just looks like VV

[quick nymph]

Real

[glossy quest]

I'm want custom shader with planar reflections for vibrant visuals💔

[limpid sequoia]

you mean Screen Space Reflection?

[glossy quest]

replace screen space reflections to planar reflections

[limpid sequoia]

i had no idea

[glossy quest]

Screen space reflections sucks

[white willow]

Yea I'm gonna be honest man, that's just not viable

There's so much water in mc

And planar reflections are not cheap

Like at all

[glossy quest]

You can try planar reflections in Water Shader for Minecraft Java Edition

https://modrinth.com/shader/water-shader

[tribal trail]

oof

[limpid sequoia]

[pale urchin]

I assume that's limited to the game's water level

[wind pollen]

They kinda look creepy ngl
Like small glowing eyes staring at you

[tribal trail]

broken textures are back

[tribal trail]

it's very subtle i guess

[pale urchin]

the fog isn't very thick in your screenshot

or are you talking about something else

[tribal trail]

well yeah, but if i have to have insanely thick fog then it's pointless

[pale urchin]

Hard to light what isn't there

[tribal trail]

really

[pale urchin]

Maybe if they had a multiplier for block light

block light might be too weak to have the same effect as sun light

[tribal trail]

that's precisely why I said it's subtle

[pale urchin]

does your nether have thick volumetric fog? I wonder how the lava sea look

[tribal trail]

oh my god nether i so laggy for me for some reason

[quick beacon]

Nether does not run too well

5090 can't even handle it

[tribal trail]

it lags terribly on my pc

[tribal trail]

my 5090 is dying in nether too

huh

pointlights are off but i can see heightmap

[pale urchin]

Almost looks like normal mapping is applying to block light

Not too well, but it's there

[limpid sequoia]

i thought it wasn't effected to the performance

[pale urchin]

It might have something to do with the static light movement to the GPU

[limpid sequoia]

my PC keep freezing, crashing

lord

[tropic rampart]

great in pale gardens

[tribal trail]

it's only for blocks

[tropic rampart]

this is bread.

[tribal trail]

block light has no effect on mob/item heightmaps

[tribal trail]

yeah

smooth, no heightmaps

[tropic rampart]

now if only we had colorful light blocks.

not a great example but like, you could make a decent batsignal using the fog and lights now if we had coloured light blocks.

[tribal trail]

okay i can see it in pale garden a little bit

but it's so stupid how subtle it is

[sonic canopy]

Would be cool to have a multiplier property for point/static volumetric light. Some java shaderpacks crank it up above "realistic" values and it looks quite nice imo

[paper helm]

The contribution is being scaled by a value in the internal jsons block_light_indirect_contribution_multiplier which is set to 0.05
I was scaling it to 200.0 when doing local development 😛 But that influences other parts of the lighting pipeline as well

I like the idea of introducing a dedicated multiplier and exposing it for resource packs. Can't make any promises especially while the core tech is still being worked on while under the Experiment

[brave star]

looks WAY better imo.

subtle or not

[tribal trail]

sure but issue is that pale garden has insanly thick fog

in any other normal biome it's invisible

[brave star]

oh.

[tribal trail]

yeah

[brave star]

that sucks.

[tribal trail]

yeah

[rancid seal]

Try vv pale garden fog in rtx

It is going to be even worse

[rancid seal]

Imagine my feelings when I spend hours to smth like that in rtx?
Rtx can get entity PBR, but it can load pbr values, not maps, iirc. Sad this cannot be controlled by resource pack. It is better to have limited version of entity PBR than not having it all. If you do care.

Old wip, posted it million times before

Bit it is cool for me

[scarlet gust]

The gap in visual quality between RTX and VV is still very large, but at least I fixed the color grading, mipmapping, and water caustics.

I hope someone can build off this VV addon I created here. Maybe one day the gap between RTX and VV will completely close and they'll look and run the same.

I used the reinhard tonemapper, boosted constrast, added a bit of saturation, set the mipmapping level to 0, and fixed the issue with water caustics that made water look like oil in Vibrant Visuals.

[limpid sequoia]

[long ruin]

[tribal trail]

no

[scarlet gust]

Wdym no?

[tribal trail]

just no

[scarlet gust]

What's wrong with fixing Vibrant Visuals tonemapping and mipmapping?

And also fixing oil water?

There's no hue shifting but it's still high contrast and mipmapping issues were also fixed.

[tribal trail]

stop with that hue shifting

[scarlet gust]

Here's the source code by the way.

[limpid sequoia]

i also don't care about what is hue shifting, tonemapping or mipmap

because nothing is perfect so don't be perfectionist

[pale urchin]

What am I looking at?

[scarlet gust]

That's a comparison of my anarchy server with Cat RTX and my anarchy server with Cat Visuals and my Vibrant Visuals pack that fixes color grading and mipmapping issues. It also fixes oil water.

After fixing the color grading and mipmapping, Vibrant Visuals still doesn't look like RTX, but it's a step closer.

[pale urchin]

I don't know what to say

[scarlet gust]

Why don't you know what to say?

[scarlet gust]

What about fixing mipmapping and oil water?

[tribal trail]

You didn’t fix mipmap

You removed it

And it’s not fixing, it’s making the game look worse

Mipmap is important

There is no such thing as oily water

[scarlet gust]

Removing the mipmap made animated textures work at far distances.
If it wasn't for removing the mipmaps, the RGB sea lanterns in this screenshot would be stuck at frame 0, which is red.

[scarlet gust]

How would removing the mipmap and allowing animated textures at a far distance make the game look worse?

[pale urchin]

Your whole screenshot looks washed out. There's hardly any vibrance

The sky is work in progress, right?

[sonic canopy]

Real. How can there be hue shifting if there are no hues to shift

[scarlet gust]

I set the contrast to 1.572 and the saturation to 1.31.

[scarlet gust]

Yes.

[pale urchin]

And yet it still looks washed out

[pale urchin]

Well that's good to know

Maybe it's the grey sky that's causing all this

[scarlet gust]

The sky is washed out right now.

[scarlet gust]

Yes.

[tribal trail]

but textures at disatnce are very noisy and animated textures should work fine with mipmap

[tribal trail]

look at the blocks, they look washed out and too bright

[pale urchin]

I think it depends on the texture dimensions

While working on the Nerf map we came across the same problem

[tribal trail]

oh yeah, with high res textures it's an issue

[scarlet gust]

That's because the sky is washed out, and that's the next thing I'm going to fix.
At least the bright areas aren't hue shifting like what ACES would do.

[pale urchin]

Hard to tell from the screenshot

[scarlet gust]

I used Reinhard because it allows for full control over contrast and saturation, but blocks above a certain brightness desaturate and shift to white instead of hue shifting. It's the perfect Vibrant Visuals tone mapper.

[long ruin]

[sonic canopy]

It might be a good idea to make better side by side comparison screenshots. Show some emissive blocks with other color grading configs vs with yours, just to quantify the difference in colors between the two, like the difference in hue shifting and such

[scarlet gust]

Here's a much better side-by-side comparison, with Cat Visuals on the left and Better Vibrant Visuals Color Grading on the right.

[tribal trail]

That just looks like emissive desaturation

[scarlet gust]

Better Vibrant Visuals Color Grading is the one on the right by the way.

Cat Visuals has ACES hue shifting.

[tribal trail]

On the left it just looks like it has emissive desaturation

[scarlet gust]

That's because ACES sucks, and it's also the reason why I didn't use it. I used Reinhard, boosted the contrast, and added a bit of saturation.

[tribal trail]

But emissive desaturation is good

I like it

It make emissive textures more cinematic and better looking

[tribal trail]

If anything image on the right sucks

[scarlet gust]

Not when it hue shifts to oblivion. Red is orange and blue is purple in the image on the left.

[tribal trail]

Emissive desaturation should be obvious, such emissive blocks look so bad when they are so saturated

It just looks wrong on the right

[scarlet gust]

My main goal here is to make Vibrant Visuals look like RTX.

RTX is the image on the left by the way.

[tribal trail]

These blocks with rtx are less emissive

That’s why they are more saturated

mer textures with emissivity made for rtx doesn’t translate well to vibrant visuals and they are way too bright, you compare both wrong because you don’t use correct pack with vv lol

[scarlet gust]

I'm using the same Cat RTX Glowing Terracotta resource pack in both images.

[tribal trail]

Please read my message again

Because you clearly didn’t read it

„mer textures with emissivity made for rtx doesn’t translate well to vibrant visuals and they are way too bright”

[long ruin]

🫠

[scarlet gust]

The brightness of emissive objects depends on the MER and the tone mapper
@graceful iron Prove me correct

[long ruin]

[wise hinge]

[tribal trail]

RTX emissivity and vv emissivity is different

[scarlet gust]

RTX and Vibrant Visuals have different tone mappers. RTX has Vanilla, ACES, Uncharted 2, Reinhard, Uchimura, and AgX, while Vibrant Visuals has Reinhard, Reinhard Luma, Reinhard Luminance, Hable, ACES, and Generic. I wanted to recreate the Vanilla tone mapper RTX has, but since there wasn't a direct equivalent, I used Reinhard, boosted the contrast, added a bit of saturation, and made it look almost exactly like the Vanilla tone mapper RTX has. By the way, the direct equivalents between RTX and Vibrant Visuals are ACES and Reinhard, and for other tone mappers, you have to experiment with contrast, gamma, saturation, etc.

[tribal trail]

I know they have different tonemappers, but they have emissivity too

why is it so hard for you to understand

even if you would make rtx and vv use same tonemapper, it would have different emissivity

it's a PBR thing, not tonemapping thing

[scarlet gust]

And that's why I had to tweak some settings to get the same emissivity

[tribal trail]

you can't because it's a PBR thing

[graceful iron]

you’re incorrect

there’s a lot of factors that change how bright something is

[scarlet gust]

What factors change the brightness of an emissive object other than the MER and the tone mapper?

[graceful iron]

the lighting configs and ambient light

[scarlet gust]

Is my lighting config good?

(For Vibrant Visuals)

[tribal trail]

But you need to make mer less emissive for vibrant visuals

[scarlet gust]

Or you can use Reinhard, boost contrast, and add some saturation

Like what I did

[graceful iron]

thats the worse option by far tho

[scarlet gust]

RTX vs my Vibrant Visuals config

[scarlet gust]

What makes that a bad option?

[tribal trail]

You can still see that emissive blocks are brighter on your vv screenshot compare to rtxscreenshot, not because of tonemapping but because they are glowing brighter and have emissivity brighter

[graceful iron]

it doesnt fix the actual issue with the textures and just hides them (and even then it doesn't necessarily hide the original flaws perfectly at all)

it's also counterintuitive to have to design your color grading just to fix MERs not made for VV when just changing the MERs is "healthier" and probably easier in the long run

[scarlet gust]

Get your eyes checked
The emissive blocks are NOT brighter in Vibrant Visuals

[tribal trail]

If you ignore GI in RTX screenshot, yes they are brighter. You just made all colors cursed to hide it when you should make pbr designed for vibrant visuals

[scarlet gust]

The colors are not "cursed"

They're perfectly fine

Here are those colors compared to RTX

[tribal trail]

We have very different definition of fine

[graceful iron]

that entire scene is absurdly bright

[tribal trail]

Because I would rather use fancy graphics than vv with colors like these

[scarlet gust]

And I'd rather use fancy graphics than use ACES tone mapping like most VV packs do for some strange reason

Red becomes orange and blue becomes purple

[tribal trail]

You still don’t use pack with correct mers for vv

Lol

[scarlet gust]

Let's compare that to my config

[tribal trail]

.

[graceful iron]

this is an issue with the emissive values

the emissive values are so high that they cause hue shifting

they should almost never cause hue shifting normally, but since youre using a pack designed for RTX with the goal of being overwhelmingly bright, of course there is going to be hue shifting

unlike RTX, you can (and should) actually use lower emissivity values

and this is still ignoring the fact that hue shifting is a more natural thing anyways

[scarlet gust]

How is it more natural for red to become orange and blue to become purple?

[graceful iron]

color theory stuffs

[wind pollen]

Okay
Now how do you even explain this?

[graceful iron]

not even going to try to explain it but that stuff is genuinely just how colors work

[wind pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/loading-screen-cat-gif-18391018

Let me process this

[white willow]

i mean after, again, doing some small research, this is a very common phenomenon to happen to LED lights when they get hotter

so something red when cold, will be red but once it brightens and gets hotter, itll shift to orange

[scarlet gust]

I already know. I learned that a year ago in science class.

Red -> Orange -> Yellow -> White -> Blue

[white willow]

what im literally saying here is red will often hue shift to orange IN REAL LIFE as it gets brighter

very common in LEDs

meaning, its not incorrect for reds to become orange

when really bright

and its the exact same case for blues

they shift to purple when really bright and intense

what aces does is not incorrect

[scarlet gust]

I have seen a bright red LED shift to orange but I have NEVER seen a blue LED shift to purple.

[white willow]

have you seen the blue police lights on a highway?

those are not usually blue

but more purpleish blue

because they are REALLY bright

regardless of how you feel about the behavior, it is correct behavior regardless

aces has no way of knowing if an object is an actual light (like an LED) or just something kinda brightish. It just does that when something has super high luminance, which usually would be enough to account for something like an LED

[scarlet gust]

That usually means the LED is degraded. It unfortunately happened to these lights. They're magenta now, regardless of color temperature, and they were expensive. Really expensive. My cheaper replacement light bulbs are not even close to how good these were. RIP $100 light bulbs 2024-2026

[white willow]

yea uh. the police lights on the highway are not degraded light quality

[scarlet gust]

They randomly turned magenta one day, and they haven't been the same since.

[long ruin]

[scarlet gust]

So why did my $100 85W LED light bulbs turn magenta after 2 years?

[white willow]

because THOSE degraded in quality

the ones on the highway are perfectly fine

they are literally bluish purple

NOT

MAGENTA

[scarlet gust]

Like this?

[white willow]

no like

it literally looks like bright blues with aces

[wind pollen]

I only see blue

[white willow]

mostly sane emission value vs rtx tuned emission value.

again as we've been saying, less agressive emissions is all you need

[wind pollen]

Okay.
I would never be able to Unsee it again.

[white willow]

tested catgamer's better VV color grading. its so... saturated. theres also some weirdness going on with the colors, especially in the fog which my guess is some mismatched contrast or something idk

sure might be my pack being a bit more saturated but, like its really saturated. overall the config isnt terrible but its saturation overload. the image on the left is my own color grading, and its not using aces.

here as well, you can really see the shortcomings and limitations of reinhard. the color just gets clamped off. its not able to fully pop.

this is why reinhard isnt super commonly used

actually wait may not be reinhard here

nvm this is caused by using very low highlights_min

[scarlet gust]

What's the correct highlights_min value?

[white willow]

well i guess there isnt exactly a correct value, but most set it to 20

but yea your config here makes what should be a light orange, into a complete pee yellow

[wise hinge]

pee

[white willow]

with my hable and aces configs it is the correct intended color :p

aces just has really nice highlights and contrast here. thats why its popular. things literally just pop more

[scarlet gust]

Is that also why Apple forces iPhone cameras to use the ACES tone mapper unless you have a Pro or Pro Max iPhone, where you can use aLog or aLog 2?
Is that also why Unity only lets you use the ACES tone mapper?

[white willow]

well for unity you can just...

implement your own tonemap

make a full screen shader and add your own tonemap

[scarlet gust]

What about for Apple limiting aLog and aLog 2 to Pro and Pro Max iPhones while the base model iPhones can only use the ACES tone mapper for their cameras?

[white willow]

apple also does not use aces for its encoding

its a custom hdr tonemap

and that log encoding is ONLY for video shot with prores

the actual camera does not use it

[scarlet gust]

So companies aren't forcing people to use ACES.
That's good to know.

[white willow]

also looking at the the source on the new log encoding

the log encoding is done with aces

but the actual photo camera does NOT use aces

[scarlet gust]

AgX and AgMax are clearly the best tone mappers, so why is ACES so popular?

[white willow]

and still requires prores to be used anyway

[white willow]

in YOUR opinion

[graceful iron]

Reminder that AgMax isn’t really a standard tonemapper given that it orignates from a paid Blender extension

[white willow]

also might i mention

the aces in vv isnt actually true aces

nor is the one in betterRTX

[iron moon]

🗣️

Same topic same hour tomorrow

[white willow]

the one in betterRTX is the unreal 4 filmic tonemap, and VVs is a modified version of ACES known as ACES Fitted

ACES Fitted is a very simplified version of aces

[graceful iron]

time to make ACES Unfitted

[white willow]

it also gets around some of the aces licensing shenanigans

[graceful iron]

ACESymmetrical

[white willow]

but ACES 2.0 is quite the crazy tonemapper, but ive really seen nothing use it yet afaik

anyways i feel like this conversation happens at least once or twice a week at this point

[scarlet gust]

I did some research, and I can't believe I'm saying this, but ACES 2.0 is genuinely good. Do you think ACES 2.0 will be able to be ported to BetterRTX soon to replace the older, far worse ACES 1.0 tone mapper?

[white willow]

Aces 1 vs aces 2 color output

[white willow]

And no. Probably not. Aces requires we include the ACES license within a project which we cannot do with betterRTX due to other reasons. Also again betterRTX does not actually use ACES. It's unreal 4s filmic tonemap

Still have no clue why it's called aces

[scarlet gust]

Academy
Color
Encoding
System

[white willow]

That's...

Not what I meant

Ik what aces stands for 😭

I'm saying i don't know why it's called aces in betterRTX when it is not aces

[scarlet gust]

So people avoid the filmic tone mapper at all costs because they think it's ACES and it will hue shift terribly

At least that's my assumption

[white willow]

Uh... no... nobody actually cares about hue shifting more than you

Majority of user presets use the unreal tonemap option

You are LITERALLY the only person that cares this much about hue shifting. Nobody else here does. It's only you

[scarlet gust]

Then the majority of users must have been like "ChatGPT, generate me a preset"
Hold up I'm going to see what happens if I ask ChatGPT to generate a preset
Wait I was correct 💀
"🔥 Best overall (most people use this)
ACES
✔️ Natural, film-like colors
✔️ Good highlight handling (no blown-out whites)
✔️ Balanced contrast
👉 It's not just another tone mapper — it's the best default choice for most presets"
Why are people using ChatGPT to generate BetterRTX presets 💔🥀
Hold up why the heck is the BetterRTX team collecting telemetry

[white willow]

Um.... what...

No?

[scarlet gust]

Trusting ChatGPT to generate a preset is diabolical

And the fact that the majority of people are doing that genuinely makes me question how much of a negative impact AI makes on society

[white willow]

Most of the installer presets were made BEFORE chatGPT even got big

Actually I don't even think it existed yet

And if it was out, it was literal straight garbage at that time (still is)

I'm done with this conversation after that one. Stop ping replying me. I'm going to bed

[scarlet gust]

ChatGPT came out back in 2022 and it blew up a few months later because it was giving out free Windows 11 product keys to anyone who asked.

[scarlet gust]

I agree. I can get better information with a quick search on Opera GX than I can get with a 3 hour conversation with ChatGPT. There's genuinely no reason to use it, and I haven't used it since December of 2025.

[scarlet gust]

I think I'm also going to bed now.

[rancid seal]

Pale garden world

[wise hinge]

why is the flowing lava so bright

[rancid seal]

Because it is bright

[wise hinge]

[limpid sequoia]

because of static light

[limpid sequoia]

[rancid seal]

BTW, what do you think about this fog, mate?

[limpid sequoia]

that's bright

[limpid sequoia]

720p non-binaryming

I have just stolen villager house

because i'm so lazy for building

[wind pollen]

lol

Lazy

Get some work, man!

Build your own house!

[limpid sequoia]

[wise hinge]

I transformed a villager's house into a modern house

[limpid sequoia]

good work

[wind pollen]

Pic?

[vagrant sigil]

How can I use volumetric clouds?

[wind pollen]

MB loader

[severe grove]

DON'T USE VV IN THE NEWEST VERSION (v26.20.22), BELIVE ME!

[wind pollen]

Is 26.10 okay?

[quick nymph]

Just usual mojank, for every 3 updates, at least 3 graphics bugs.

[wind pollen]

lol

Maybe a bug in every update i think

[quick nymph]

Microslop own mojank who made minecrap bugrock

[severe grove]

Yep

[quick nymph]

That says it all

[wind pollen]

"Minecrap bugrock"

Im Taking that for my dictionary

Then what about Lagva?

[limpid sequoia]

[severe grove]

Just like the name

Lag

Why they keep needs optifine, sodium?

[wind pollen]

even in vanilla with just 32 chunk render distance
When bugrock has 96

[wind pollen]

Good Question

[severe grove]

Yea

[severe grove]

Mojunk js too lazy fux it

[wind pollen]

I've heard that Mojunk is switching from OpenGL to Vulkan for Java in future

That should fix it

[thorn bison]

i've heard that too

[wind pollen]

Maybe hardware rt could become possible then
(Even though there is radiance)

[severe grove]

Yea you right

[severe grove]

Idk, they already have path tracing

[severe grove]

They use vulkan cause they wanna add VV in java

[quick nymph]

They are, but I doubt many of their underlying issues will be fixed, depending on how they implement it.

[quick nymph]

Radiance already uses vulkan iirc

[severe grove]

I agree

And now, they (java) no more can use shader

Now all shader makers need make new version of their shaders so it support Vulkan

[quick nymph]

Apeture exists, and they don't plan to stop support the current pipeline for a while. They are having a transition period where both will be supported as they try and iron out issues with vulkan

[severe grove]

Ooh

Hmmm

[blazing whale]

🗿

[severe grove]

So i can't raost they because they still can use shader

[wind pollen]

Oh

[severe grove]

Dictionary?

English language dictionary?

[wind pollen]

Nah,
A dictionary for cringy words

[severe grove]

Oh

I js found out of dictionary for cringy words🥀

[limpid sequoia]

Cleaning the grass for building ig

[rancid seal]

Ewww java

[limpid sequoia]

[limpid sequoia]

so?

what's wrong with it

[blazing whale]

🗿

[sonic canopy]

Am I crazy or is fog hue shifting on the second image??? It goes from red to orange, while on the left it is consistently orange and just changes brightness

[rancid seal]

Uhh ohh

[wind pollen]

Its not Java
Its LAGVA

[limpid sequoia]

[tribal trail]

agree

[limpid sequoia]

:doggy_smurk:

[tulip mason]

Does anyone know how I can make it so that only players with certain properties or tags can see the entities?

[rancid seal]

fr

Freezes every 10 seconds

[white willow]

You're correct it is. It was due to a highlights min of 4 so the color was more getting hard clamped but otherwise yes

[sonic canopy]

[limpid sequoia]

yay

[quick nymph]

It's fixed 🎉

[rancid seal]

What fixed

oh, vv, nvm

[iron moon]

Why don't we have rough reflection in VV?

[sonic canopy]

Cuz it'll have to be denoised. You can simulate rough reflections by using a very high resolution normal map with randomly oriented pixels and see how it would've looked like

[iron moon]

that sucks, all my reflective textures suck cuz of that

[tribal trail]

why is it so hard for you to understand that people don't care about that hue shifting?

[wind pollen]

That raises a question

Which version has more grass in the plains biome?

[blazing whale]

When fix detect code for lighting in clouds? 🗿

[limpid sequoia]

[pale urchin]

Should be about the same as of spring to life

[limpid sequoia]

i'm not sure then

[blazing whale]

This is necessary so that the cloud color can adjust to the lighting.

[limpid sequoia]

yes i see

[tulip mason]

Does anyone know?

;-;

[limpid sequoia]

i have never heard about that

[tulip mason]

That's sad. I wanted to make a vision haki and add an aura, but all players would see entities through the blocks whether or not they had haki activated

[limpid sequoia]

it seems a bug in preview

the pbr look really weird

[iron moon]

Lol

[limpid sequoia]

[languid mirage]

"Colored block lights now influence Volumetrics"

[limpid sequoia]

[languid mirage]

nah, i'm genuinely getting fkn PISSED. why the HELL is minecraft running so shit on my PC

20 fps on preview - 10 chunk render. 1080p this is actually dumb.

(love that the R word is blocked... yet shit is not??)

i get 400 FPS on java bro what the actual F

and that's at 1440 with 30 chunk....

[tribal trail]

what gpu do you have

what is the R word

[languid mirage]

R etard 😕

and I have a R5 3600, and RTX 3070TI

[tribal trail]

ahhh

my rtx 3060 ti at 1440p was very laggy

idk how much better is 3070 ti

[languid mirage]

this is Genuinley illogical

this is 1080!!! like BRO.

Its Primarily Preview too -- I get significantly better FPS on the release version.

[tribal trail]

you have the same issue as me

but reversed

[languid mirage]

FR! 😂

like, I love RTX but I wanna be able to play VV without using my damn Series X lmao.

[tribal trail]

and I love VV but I wanna be able to play RTX sometimes 😭

[languid mirage]

bipolar ass game

Volumetrics with Block/static lights.

heavier fog would definately make it so much better

[limpid sequoia]

i gets 55fps at ultra, max chunks in preview

because i've undervolt my PC 🗿

[languid mirage]

might have to undervolt my CPU, idk. i run it at 1.2v 3600mhz.

overclock doesn't change anything. GPU is default no OC

[limpid sequoia]

1.2V is too high

[languid mirage]

normal MC with Prizma.

[limpid sequoia]

my PC always running at 0.850V

[tribal trail]

I don't know what that means

[limpid sequoia]

i meant Voltage

[limpid sequoia]

GPU can

u need third-party software like MSI Afterburner

my Acer sh!t can't edit Voltage Core but can use Curve to make PC run at lower voltage for higher performance

[tribal trail]

so undervolting improve performance?

[limpid sequoia]

yes of course! but it needs a sweet-point

[tribal trail]

ahh

[limpid sequoia]

because i set 2000 MHz at 850V and my game keep crashing

[languid mirage]

cpu at 1v is worse. more stutters.

.9 v crashes.

probably need to lower mhz.

BUT I SHOULDN'T HAVE TOO.... M O J A N G ! ? ! ? !

[limpid sequoia]

yes! lower MHz

[languid mirage]

it only got worse lol.

50ms render latency. 15 fps at 8 chunks

1080p

[limpid sequoia]

i'm not sure about your device but i gets higher performance with 1900 MHz at 885V

[languid mirage]

i went down to 2800. was only getting worse as I went lower lol

[limpid sequoia]

have u turned voltage to lower yet?

[languid mirage]

yup. got down to 8.5v with 2800 adjusted one after another. volt, test for a few seconds then mhz then test.

using Ryzen Master

increments of 0.5v & 200 mhz

bedrock is poop.

my moms Lenovo Flex that is ancient runs Java better.

(30fps MAX)

I mean, some perf mods too - but still 😂

bedrock supposed to better optimized no?

welp - back to java ig

[limpid sequoia]

yes

[limpid sequoia]

8.5V = 0.850V right?

that's not enough voltage for 2800 MHz
-# sorry for pinging

[languid mirage]

smh..... 70 fps like nothing on yava

1440 - Bliss unstable absolutely maxed

no temporal upscaling either

[limpid sequoia]

java is good

[languid mirage]

im sending a MASSIVE F YOU - to VV.

[limpid sequoia]

[languid mirage]

started on it back in like 2013/14. xbox 360 and PC.

honestly - never would have touched Bedrock if I ever had much of a choice.

(sorry bedrock RTX)

[limpid sequoia]

great

[languid mirage]

"1.5 "Redstone Update" (March 2013): Introduced Hopper, Dropper, Daylight Sensor, Redstone Comparator, Block of Redstone, and Block of Quartz"

definitely played before this.

I remember even playing cracked versions where there was like 0 creative blocks 🥴

[languid mirage]

from that to this is insane 😍

[limpid sequoia]

[quick nymph]

Quite a bit more performant iirc.

[quick nymph]

Don't undervolt your cpu, either over volt it or get a new one because that is a major bottleneck

[quick nymph]

Undervolting means it draws less power and if you get the voltage right then it gives same performance as normal. The best way, imo, is to over volt as much as possible then try and lower your voltage while keeping the same speeds and performance. If you really master the art you can get a minimal voltage with the same performance as over voltage. It's rather tricky and requires a lot of testing.

[scarlet gust]

I'm going to fix my config right now.

[iron moon]

That lighting looks 😔

That's why I hate vanilla Rtx

[scarlet gust]

I fixed my config.

[scarlet gust]

Cat Visuals vs my config.

My config is the second image.

[wise hinge]

[languid mirage]

yeah, I was running 1.2V 4200mhz - perfect for every other game. (dropped to the default 3600 to see if it helped, but obviously not)

get 100FPS in Red dead maxed out.

my cpu is kinda poop tho bc my cooling is shit

still doesn't make sense that preview performs so shit and Official release is at-least playable

Vsync is off on both

profile 1/2. usually use the 4200

[scarlet gust]

Do you like my Vibrant Visuals config?

[wise hinge]

no

[scarlet gust]

Why not?

[languid mirage]

things that were white - now yellow tinted.

how tf did you make a red glowing blockl - blue ? better not be your tonemap istg

[scarlet gust]

I disabled mipmapping

[long ruin]

The colors seem almost forces upon. ESPECIALLY that blue on the right

[languid mirage]

why?

[scarlet gust]

Because when mipmapping was enabled, the RGB sea lanterns were stuck on frame 0, which is red.

[languid mirage]

ah, i see its that pack.

[scarlet gust]

Mipmapping creates a lot of problems.

[languid mirage]

either way - wouldnt be bad but you hue shifted white/grey to yellow. unnatural

like piss yellow

[scarlet gust]

Warmer lighting is yellow.

[languid mirage]

......

it's night. the moon doesn't reflect any VISIBLE yellow light

white/blue

it doesnt look right

better off with the neutral 6500K

but - you wanna feel like you got invis HPS lamps in the game - you do you

[scarlet gust]

There was yellow lighting behind me in those screenshots. By the way, those screenshots were taken on my anarchy server.

[languid mirage]

not unless you added them in the second image.

if they were actually yellow - you wouldnt need to use a warmer temp to make it visible

soooo......

[scarlet gust]

Yeah I didn't add them. Someone was griefing my server with yellow terracotta.

[languid mirage]

right.

[scarlet gust]

Hold up. I'm going to check on my server.

[languid mirage]

genuinely dont care.

you're not even grasping what i'm saying anyway - lost interest.

[scarlet gust]

And now I have to do an update.

[languid mirage]

Nah that's a lie. I'm genuinely mind F'd.

how do you not grasp that yellow lighting - will be yellow no matter your color temp. (unless its like super high, then ig the yellow would be off. but my point still stands)

so it doesn't make sense to say there was yellow lights in the first image - when White is very obviously WHITE.

🥴

🤔

[scarlet gust]

Griefers are once again ruining my server.

[languid mirage]

literally just you doing it. this is childish

[scarlet gust]

This reminds me of the time that the griefers flooded my server with water.

I knew running a server 24/7 was a bad idea.

[long ruin]

Too cool!

[tribal trail]

Yours is worse

It’s less cinematic

[limpid sequoia]

wait! are u using CPU and not GPU?

[tribal trail]

And glowing blocks are looking fried

[limpid sequoia]

no!

[scarlet gust]

Cat RTX vs my Vibrant Visuals config.

One step closer to making Vibrant Visuals look like RTX

I might want to fix the sky though

[scarlet gust]

Do you think the RGB sea lanterns aren't bright enough and the sky needs to be fixed?

[limpid sequoia]

i don't care about that

[blazing whale]

🗿

[limpid sequoia]

🗿 🗿

[scarlet gust]

Better Vibrant Visuals Color Grading v2

Do you hate hue shifting, mipmapping, and Vibrant Visuals genuinely looking like absolute garbage? Then this add-on is for you. It disables mipmapping for animated textures to work at a distance and uses the Reinhard tone mapper to ensure there will be no hue shifting. With Version 2.0 of Better Vibrant Visuals color grading, I made some improvements to the highlights and shadows.

[long ruin]

[willow needle]

Hmm

[silk badge]

https://tenor.com/view/far-cry-3-vass-montenegro-did-i-ever-tell-you-the-definition-of-insanity-insanity-gif-9162815073500878983

[languid mirage]

….
Yknow what - I highly doubt it. - but that actually could be the issue considering GPU utilization doesn’t go up past like 20 on preview.

Lemme check

[limpid sequoia]

I used AMD to play Java with shader and... FPS ~ 2

[languid mirage]

Nope - GPU is set to be used.

[limpid sequoia]

my PC have 2 GPU

[languid mirage]

Yeah, I don’t have An Igpu lol. R5 3600.

And just my 1 Graphics card

Also, imma load up again - but I think it’s literally ONLY vibrant visuals that I get the bad fps.

1s

[limpid sequoia]

i see

sh!t Vietnamese keyboard

[limpid sequoia]

ur specs really good mate

but that's make sense when you're getting lower performance at VV

[languid mirage]

Nvm.

15 FPS in fancy graphics on Preview 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

[tribal trail]

How

You should try going to the nether on the latest preview

With vv on

It is destroying even my gpu

It’s crazy when you fly around for a bit

[languid mirage]

Was boutta say - because of chunk loading but NVM.

Set chunks to 10 - I’m still hitting 15/13

[languid mirage]

1s

i get VERY brief spikes to 60.

but absolutely any chunk loading destroys perf.

Ignore NVIDIA overlay Statistics - only reporting correct FPS

forgot my music gets captured through Nvidia too....lmao

oh - with VV on.... Well - I dont think I need too, considering my FPS was so bad with Fancy graphics 😂

[limpid sequoia]

how is it possible mate

[languid mirage]

🤷‍♂️ I'm just as mind F'd as you dude.

[limpid sequoia]

[languid mirage]

exactly the same with VV.

lemme try RTX

[limpid sequoia]

[languid mirage]

nah, Preview is just unplayable

[limpid sequoia]

sad

[languid mirage]

even RTX

[limpid sequoia]

0.3 FPS

[languid mirage]

I hit 20 - But i got a SUPER bad frame time drop Right before I took the clip

[limpid sequoia]

what's wrong with it

how is it even possible

[languid mirage]

idek. But normal MC is perfect. (arguable in terms of VV - But it's actually playable)

[limpid sequoia]

well

[languid mirage]

Normal MC - RTX

preview is just broken ????

24 chunk render @ 1440 too

preview cant even do 1080p

[languid mirage]

60 fps at 48 chunk render with Fancy graphics...

Preview is 100% broken

do something pwease Mojang

[limpid sequoia]

[limpid sequoia]

i thought it was higher like 100

[languid mirage]

what? my fps? nah. levels out around 60 fps. game was having issues loading chunks tho - so that could've been part of it.

I've done the 96 chunks and it leveled out at 40 FPS with everything completely rendered in.

[limpid sequoia]

i see

[languid mirage]

like 2 months ago or something. When i zoomed in with a spyglass my fps would hit 100+ because it wasnt' actually rendering everything on the screen at once

[limpid sequoia]

really

[scarlet gust]

@graceful iron @rancid seal @languid mirage @tribal trail @long ruin @limpid sequoia @willow needle @quick nymph Why don't you guys like my config? What could I do better? Does the sky need to be fixed? Did I use too much contrast? Do you not like the performance loss that comes with disabling mipmapping? Is the color temperature incorrect? I genuinely want to know what precisely is wrong with my config.

[limpid sequoia]

First, i have never cared about what is "Hue shifting" .
Second, i'm not a perfectionist and nothing is perfect so i don't care.
Third, i also don't care about Tonemapping as much, if it's fit to me that's completely fine
Done!

[tribal trail]

I like aces and I don’t care about hue shifting

[tribal trail]

Agree

[scarlet gust]

I fixed my config.

The highlights_min value is now 16 instead of 4.

[wind pollen]

Damn this looks so good

[graceful iron]

emissive things should not be absolute red, or green, or blue. You’ve completely gotten rid of any emissive desaturation and removed all hue shifting (which yes is a bad) and that just makes the bright colors look terrible.

[scarlet gust]

Is emissive desaturation without hue shifting possible in Vibrant Visuals?
I know it's possible in RTX, but what about Vibrant Visuals?

[graceful iron]

Additionally, your saturation is probably too high and that causes other color issues

man hue shifting is a natural thing.

There should just be a setting in one of the lighting configs called “emissive desaturation” tho

idk which one it’s in tho

[scarlet gust]

I thought that setting was only in RTX.
It's also in Vibrant Visuals?

[graceful iron]

yeah

[scarlet gust]

I'm going to experiment with my Vibrant Visuals color grading config.

I heard that Reinhard Luminance allows for emissive desaturation without hue shifting, but I guess we'll find out.

[rancid seal]

No, i love it

Wait, what the heck happened here when I was sleeping

[limpid sequoia]

notfink

[rancid seal]

[scarlet gust]

First, I tried to create a Vibrant Visuals config designed to make Vibrant Visuals look like RTX, and I failed.
I'm planning to experiment with different tone mappers and different levels of contrast until it looks like RTX.
Then, the Minecraft Preview came out, and it was incredibly broken, unoptimized, and unplayable.
After that, the BetterRTX team fixed BetterRTX.

[severe grove]

At least noone cut the sky again...

[limpid sequoia]

rtex vanilla

[rancid seal]

Oh no, /time set noon

[limpid sequoia]

[limpid sequoia]

yeah

[rancid seal]

Noon time sucks in rtx a little bit

Set time to day

[limpid sequoia]

i want betterrtx

[severe grove]

Maybe i will try to replicate it on VV hope this will work

[rancid seal]

Set time to day mate

[limpid sequoia]

i have just installed preset and my game keep crashing

[rancid seal]

[rancid seal]

Because material format was changed, so brtx was destroyed

[limpid sequoia]

cry

[rancid seal]

Yaaay

[rancid seal]

No, I don't use brtx

[limpid sequoia]

[rancid seal]

Uhh.. ?

[rancid seal]

What do you mean by saying emoji 50?

[limpid sequoia]

i meant i have just commenting

[rancid seal]

[blazing whale]

🗿

[limpid sequoia]

[rancid seal]

[limpid sequoia]

something went wrong with my rtex

[rancid seal]

Lmao man you have just disabled ray tracer

[limpid sequoia]

🗿

now do i

[rancid seal]

Ray tracer is disabled, you can see it by looking at fps

[severe grove]

How is this possible? Like over 2 thousands minecraft texture eappears on my gallery

[rancid seal]

Do you have any kind of app that allows you to edit rp-s/bp-s?

[severe grove]

Nope

[rancid seal]

Can you somehow see where are those texture from? Like path

[rancid seal]

Now enable it

[limpid sequoia]

nvm

back to my lover

[rancid seal]

You are the same as me: using different graohocs mode for 5 mins and returning back

[limpid sequoia]

i have just tested RTX after Undervolted my PC

[severe grove]

it appeared today, it happened when I was coming home from the mosque. I don't know where it's come from

[rancid seal]

I think I know what happened. I think those textures are comming from custom resource packs

[severe grove]

Maybe it's coming from Defined PBR

[rancid seal]

I think it is comming from pack with vv support? Especially if you see mers textures

[severe grove]

No, i only use 1 VV texture pack and no trouble found

But i found a Defined PBR texture pack

[rancid seal]

Is this rtx pack?

[severe grove]

Yea, i found the RTX pack texture on my gallery

[rancid seal]

Huh? It shouldn't do anything with particles or items texture, as they are still vanilla, should it?

[severe grove]

Yes.

[rancid seal]

Lol bro im confused

@limpid sequoia will you be able to check out my rtx pack when the new update is ready? Pwss

[wind pollen]

[rancid seal]

Should be cute enough!

[limpid sequoia]

[wind pollen]

Same happens to me lol

[tribal trail]

And you still use a pack with incorrect pbr even tho the creator of that pack said it’s incorrect to use it with rtx

[wind pollen]

SolaceV

[willow needle]

glass

[limpid sequoia]

720p gayming

[severe grove]

That's why v26.20.22 is suck

[severe grove]

Btw i hope your project success, after it realease, can i try it? Because you know i was always try to make my VV look like RTX.

Hm maybe i should change my name, my current name is so ahh 🥀