Graphics General

[white willow]

ok i close the game and it immediately sent

[pale urchin]

Wow

[white willow]

its really bad man

i didnt realize how much betterRTX saves this

[pale urchin]

That is really bland

[scarlet gust]

NVENC doesn't record footage above your monitor's variable refresh rate so when using NVENC your games still run fast and then the encoding of that video is very slow and of course then sending it in Discord re-encodes while the game is running so to minimize performance loss it runs very slow

[pale urchin]

When you said that the end has a sky and a sun, it doesn't even have a sun 😭

[white willow]

let me just for more fair comparison go to default vv

[white willow]

I THOUGHT IT DID 😭

its betterRTX that adds the sun

thats crazy man

let me be more fair to vv here rq and use default vv

[pale urchin]

I was so confused! I thought my memory of the end was outdated, but that is exactly how I remembered

[white willow]

it will still slap this around

update it was pure white like that cuz of a pack

but its still bad and bland

after removing that pack the end looks more normal

but its still stupdily bland

[azure ember]

wrong image

[pale urchin]

Yeah that does look more like the end

@sonic canopy

[white willow]

i wonder if i make the sky brighter the ground will also get more purple

[scarlet gust]

@sonic canopy

[pale urchin]

So how does VV compare?

[graceful iron]

I’m trying to sleep bro

[white willow]

will do that in one second. i wanna mess with my theory rq

but im gonna use default vv and compare cuz last time i was using a resource pack

[graceful iron]

CatRTX is just a texture pack so by default it doesn’t use a tonemapper

[scarlet gust]

It's 10:46 AM

[graceful iron]

However

Cat’s Pack (the BetterRTX preset) uses ACES

[graceful iron]

I got 3 hours of sleep yesterday I need this

😭

Anyways

No

CatRTX doesn’t use Agx

Both Vibrancy and Cat’s Pack use ACES

[white willow]

yea no i dont think it does

but it is cool you can change the sky color

nope it stays a bland white illumination color

which means the skylight is probably hardcoded in some way

vanilla, VV, RTX

crazy how rtx looks like vanilla here

[pale urchin]

RTX looks closer to vanilla, but VV has more interesting lighting

[white willow]

vv no flash

[pale urchin]

When I look at VV again thought, it's strange how pink the end lighting is

[scarlet gust]

@sonic canopy

[white willow]

i kind wish vvs lighting was a bit more purple

[pale urchin]

Actually, is VV lighting pinker?

[white willow]

but eh

[white willow]

yea its mroe pink

[pale urchin]

Odd

[azure ember]

67 is an odd number

[pale urchin]

If it was less pink, it could contrast better with end light

[scarlet gust]

67 kid final boss

[white willow]

the flash alone tho makes it more interesting. along with having sfx tied to it

[pale urchin]

I need to stop clicking on blocked messages

[white willow]

<@&1065713026369593434> someone please

[long ruin]

[scarlet gust]

<@&1065713026369593434>

[sonic canopy]

ok he gone

[rotund widget]

I was too slow. 🙁

[white willow]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-yes-sir-yayy-kataman-gif-12260883688244422951

[pale urchin]

Thank you Veka

[graceful iron]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G-kuLaBbQAEKxZF.gif

[pale urchin]

Can't wait until they port it to vanilla Bedrock

[long ruin]

yay

[graceful iron]

Isn’t VV supposed to be vanilla bedrock

Like its default style

[white willow]

Nice point light shadows work in the end

[graceful iron]

Man I should take images of my end

Anyways

why was I getting pinged about Agx

[pale urchin]

When I say vanilla, I mean the "legacy" graphics

[white willow]

its catgamer

what do you expect

[graceful iron]

Fair enough

[white willow]

kid gets told hes wrong like 80 times and still goes on thinking hes right

i like my rendition of the end

[graceful iron]

[graceful iron]

Woah that’s bright

Oh I do have a question

[pale urchin]

agreed

[graceful iron]

can you control the atmosphere of the end?

[white willow]

yes

[pale urchin]

sorta

[white willow]

it works like the overworld

[graceful iron]

because ik it has that weird white noise skybox looking thing

[white willow]

so an atmospherics file

[pale urchin]

that's the vanilla skybox texture

[graceful iron]

and there is no time in the end either right?

[pale urchin]

yeah

[white willow]

however there is some awful like banding or something in the end sky

[graceful iron]

So every thing should be stuck at the 0.0 key frame for atmosphere

[white willow]

lemme get you a reference keyframe

{
  "format_version": "1.21.40",
  "minecraft:atmosphere_settings": {
  "description": {
    "identifier": "vrd:end_atmosphere"
},
"sky_zenith_color": {
      "0.0": [ 62, 5, 85 ],
      "1.0": [62, 5, 85]
    },
    "sky_horizon_color": {
      "0.0": [ 62, 5, 85 ],
      "1.0": [ 62, 5, 85 ]
    },
    "horizon_blend_stops": {
      "min": 0.315,
      "start": 0.44,
      "mie_start": 0.9,
      "max": 0.45
    },
    "rayleigh_strength": {
      "0.000000": 5.35,
      "1.000000":  5.35
    },
    "sun_mie_strength": {
      "0.0": 3,
      "1.0": 3
    },
    "moon_mie_strength": {
      "0.0": 0.0,
      "1.0": 0.0
    },
    "sun_glare_shape": {
      "0.0": 5,
      "1.0": 5
    }
  }
}

why the heck am i using 3 mie strength

[pale urchin]

is it impossible to just not specify keyframes?

[white willow]

thats really high

[pale urchin]

like "sun_glare_shape": 5

[white willow]

idk i took this structure from the vanilla files

[white willow]

but realistically you should be able to. but if you want it even at all times, you dont have to specify a keyframe

but if you do i think you need to have 0 and 1.0 defined at least

ive found it doesnt work if you dont

oh i misread that

my bad

yea idk maybe?

[graceful iron]

Does the end even have a sun?

[white willow]

its weird in that regard

[pale urchin]

it has something

[white willow]

the answer is no, however

[pale urchin]

A flash

[white willow]

sun and moon illuminance still contribute to the brightness of the sky

{
  "format_version": "1.21.80",
  "minecraft:lighting_settings": {
      "description": {
          "identifier": "vrd:end_lighting"
      },
      "directional_lights": {
          "orbital": {
              "sun": {
                  "illuminance": {
                      "0.0": 25
                  },
                  "color": [ 255, 255, 255]
              },
              "moon": { 
                  "illuminance": 25,
                  "color": [ 255, 255, 255]
              }, 
              "orbital_offset_degrees": 3.0
          },
          "flash": {
              "illuminance": 6,
              "color": [ 85, 7, 255 ]
          }
      },
      "emissive": {
          "desaturation": 0.03
      },
      "ambient": {
          "illuminance": 0.1,
          "color": [ 120, 32, 215]
      },
      "sky": {
          "intensity": 0.356
      }
  }
}

[pale urchin]

so you could make the sky purple even when there's no flash?

[white willow]

yea

[pale urchin]

neat

[white willow]

also

update on your other question

yes you dont need keyframes

idk about color tho

i havent tried

update

sun and moon illuminance do not contribute it seems

either that or my resource pack isnt being updated

ok yea no it doesnt

however sun/moon illuminance does have an effect on the nether

thats probably what i was thinking of

[pale urchin]

weird that it has an effect at all

[white willow]

im checking to see if like mie shape and strength do anything

cuz realistically youd just do like
if(isEnd) sunDir = endFlashDir;

or whatever they use

so id imagine it would work

[graceful iron]

And moon???

[white willow]

yep. moon also contributes. but not in the end. i tested it doesnt work

[white willow]

answer is yes they do

or they dont?

now im just mad confused

this is cool tho

bute yea no it seems that mie strength has no effect

uh ok i think i have some information on a VV bug

this uh... looks like uh... ssr....

ok its not tied to reflections being on or off

not really sure what this is

but it looks like inverted and stretched ssr on the sky. cuz its only doing it for things on screen

theres no way

its TAAU

taa on vs off

bilinear

[white willow]

@still zenith (sorry for the ping) found a really odd issue with the end sky and TAAU enabled.

[quasi trench]

strange stuff

never saw this thanks to me using bilinear

[rancid seal]

No, bedrock

Bedrock resource packs also allow you to do interesting things...

How it looks like without better rtx.

I aam just tired of black noisy end sky tbh.

[tribal trail]

It really doesn’t

You are not showing rtx, you are showing better rtx, compare vanilla modes, not vanilla mode vs modded mode

It literally is broken asf, looks like shit, doesn’t have basic features like entity/mob/particle pbr and is not customizable at all

I thought is says „naura” which is popular thing to say in Poland (at least used to be)

[scarlet gust]

Still better than VV

[long ruin]

[white willow]

me when i lie

vanilla rtx end is so unbelievably flat

the end in default rtx literally looks unfinished

[scarlet gust]

I will admit the DLSS looks like trash and the sky also looks like trash but everything else is better than VV

BetterRTX fixes all of that though

[pale urchin]

"Everything in the scene looks bad but RTX is still better"

Sorry if I was passive aggressive

[graceful iron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1179985291793145856/1463936895481413773/togif.gif

[tribal trail]

but betterrtx is a mod

you shouldn't compare mod to a vanilla feature

[rancid seal]

Are the vanilla RTX and default RTX the saame things in your context?

[white willow]

yes in this case im referring to default rtx, not the texture pack vanilla rtx

[wise hinge]

[wise hinge]

https://discord.com/channels/1138536747932864532/1464270478741864593

I made a feedback post regarding vv clouds.

[scarlet gust]

Yes

[long ruin]

Why are you replying to my message from 2024

I know they can, circumstances were MUCH different TWO YEARS AGO

[scarlet gust]

Because Discord bugged out and scrolled back to January of 2024

[long ruin]

[quasi trench]

thats crazy

blast from the past

[long ruin]

XD

[quasi trench]

like for instance has this changed

i miss seeing this

[languid mirage]

This has worked for a few months.

[languid mirage]

Nope. Hopefully one day.

[scarlet gust]

Dead chat

[tribal trail]

Yes

[rancid seal]

The VANILLA end with vv has flashes in the sky. However, rtx still allows you to customize sky texture and fogs.

We can make vv better by changing values, the same thing happens to rtx. The only thing is the ways of changing those values are different.

[rancid seal]

They made it as vanilla as they could lol

[rancid seal]

I hate the fact that the sky in default rtx emits grey light, and there is no way to change it by a resource pack. And yes... they decided not to add sky flashes to rtx.

[wind pollen]

And they don't update it anymore.. Which is the WORST decision they took

[rancid seal]

Vv is more important for them, so they won't touch rtx a lot ig

[scarlet gust]

Guys we should make BetterVV

[silent zealot]

You should.

[sonic canopy]

Be the change you want to see in the world

[long ruin]

[tribal trail]

make one

[rancid seal]

You should, we don't.

[scarlet gust]

That's insanely slow. Imagine having 5200MHz RAM. I have 16GB 6400MHz DDR5 and when I last checked even those RAM speeds are obsolete. 8000MHz is what you should aim for (At least according to ASUS) although I guess due to the RAM shortages that's fine.

[white willow]

Brother it's a laptop

I didn't choose what it came with

[long ruin]

[white willow]

My desktop can't even use DDR5. That ram is fast to me

[silent zealot]

Yes you can with today's sponsor: Framework.

[long ruin]

xd

[white willow]

😒

[scarlet gust]

When I bought my laptop I accidentally got the 16GB 6400MHz model despite 32GB 8000MHz only being $200 more. Kinda regret it because 6400MHz is not that fast and it's also soldered.

[long ruin]

thats cool

[white willow]

We'll see there was no option so

But it's not soldered so

But saying that's slow is crazy work

Maybe slow for DDR5 yea

But literally compared to my desktop which again CANT USE DDR5, it's fast to me

And quite frankly I don't care this laptop is not my gaming rig

[long ruin]

plus, this is the graphics channel, not the ram speed channel

[white willow]

And imagine not having 3600mhz DDR4

[scarlet gust]

If there's multiple SO-DIMM RAM slots then buy ROG's $2600 NUC with 2x4GB 8000MHz SO-DIMM RAM and sell it without the RAM for $2400, because each 4GB 8000MHz RAM stick is $100, and then repeat those steps again and congrats. You have the fastest 16GB RAM kit in the world and it only costed $400.

4x4GB 8000MHz is peak

[white willow]

Uh no?

[scarlet gust]

Too bad I have 2x8GB 6400MHz

[long ruin]

Lol, I got like some of the lowest speeds (2666 MHz) because I wanted a bunch of ram, so I was able to get 64 gb of DDR4 mostly because of my Blender work tbh

Idm it

Fast enough for me

[white willow]

Literally the difference between those speeds in performance is legit nothing

Maybe slightly faster startups

Literally nothing that would matter in gameplay

[silent zealot]

Right, I'm getting tired. Let's keep all the system specs talk to #off-topic . Let us resume our normal broadcast of showcasing Graphics screenshots for my wallpaper collection.

[white willow]

Please

[long ruin]

[white willow]

Catgamer is known for never being on topic

You ain't gonna win this

😔

[languid mirage]

(last 1 smokey) - ive got you beat, trap. (2133mhz)

[long ruin]

sigh...

GG

[silent zealot]

Bottom left is...so blurry.

[languid mirage]

I think that might be Haze. (BSL).

top right, Bliss - is actually blurry/smudgy from aliasing. SS looks decent tho

[quasi trench]

insert investment disclosure

[silent zealot]

I just tried RTX for the first time... and wow...

[languid mirage]

legitimately ? crazy.

[silent zealot]

I've never had an RTX capable GPU for the longest time and when I did get a 5070 I just focused on VV since RTX highkey abandoned.

[languid mirage]

insane. it may not get officially improved but it's still & always will be the most gorgeous graphics mode.

like.. DUDE 🤯 😍

[white willow]

To be fair here

You're using betterRTX

Regular raytracing will not look like that

The glow squids won't be glowing

It'll probably be a lot brighter cuz ambient lighting

And those water reflections will look horrendous

Better RTX really is the only thing keeping raytracing going

[languid mirage]

Normal RTX is still better.. higher quality - everything.

reflections may not be crisp - but they are the most realistic.

[white willow]

I wouldn't exactly call this realistic

But sure, in terms of tech yes

[languid mirage]

heavily depends on a lot of factors. you can definitely observe similar reflections irl.

soo....

[white willow]

Not on flat water like that

Water with waves yes

[languid mirage]

doesn't matter. it is still a realistic representation of reflections. also, technically there is waves - animated texture

[white willow]

Idk I just find that default RTX has way too many problems to be the better mode

It lacks so many features

And I mean yea it looks nice

But come on, they didnt even include the sky in auto exposure

And that sky is butt ugly too at times

Especially sunrise

[languid mirage]

design choices. I agree, bRTX makes rtx #1 without a question. but saying normal RTX is unrealistic or even worse than VV is illogical

[white willow]

Idk I ain't gonna lie man

Id rather use a nice VV pack over RTX without better RTX

[languid mirage]

there's some good reasons fot it, too. but still doesn't change the fact that RTX is technologically and overall visually more advanced & accurate to life.

[wise hinge]

[white willow]

I don't think the lighting being life accurate should be a measurement

Even the

Bedrock RTX is far from accurate or realistic

Calling bedrock RTX realistic is funny cuz it's not

It's only "realistic" cuz of RTGI

And even then it's far off

And there's so many things holding RTX back from genuinely being incredible

The denoising and sampling is beyond garbage

[white willow]

Something can be life accurate and look like straight buns too

RTXs end is a very good example of that 😂

The skylight is life accurate but it's flat af and looks straight crap

[languid mirage]

considering the fact that reflection, refraction, GI, AO, SSS, etc are all results of light rays interacting with the world - is the ONLY thing that makes RayTracing what it is -I'd say that is the only logical measurement and comparison ....

[white willow]

Mentioning sss and RTX is funny cuz

RTX doesn't have sss

One feature that truly could've been amazing they left out

But VV got it 😂

[languid mirage]

funny, ive seen you mention how people should read

[white willow]

I did read

[languid mirage]

did I say RTX

[white willow]

But you said sss in adds realism which yes it does, but MCRTX doesn't have sss in it

[languid mirage]

Did I say MCRTX

[white willow]

And RTX hardly has AO cuz the denoiser kills it 😂

[languid mirage]

again ... did I say RTX

[white willow]

No but this whole chat has been about RTX no?

While what you said is right some parts don't apply to MCRTX cuz it doesn't have them

[languid mirage]

. this is what I responded too.

ray tracing in general is light simulation

.

[white willow]

Yes that was never an argument I was making

[languid mirage]

what else would you compare then

[white willow]

It is light simulation

But RTX doesn't do it realistically either

It takes liberties with it

And is far from life accurate

[languid mirage]

more than any other graphics mode - overall

[white willow]

But saying VV is bad cuz it's not realistic is very much missing the point of VV

It's not meant to be

[languid mirage]

vv does ok. but it doesn't destroy rtx.

[languid mirage]

.

[white willow]

Nor did I say it does, because I also agree betterRTX is the best

But I don't think default RTX beats a good VV pack 🤷‍♂️

[languid mirage]

.

[white willow]

Specially with how many things are broken too

[languid mirage]

.

so no disagreements

[white willow]

You can't see name tags, the world will flicker when placing or breaking blocks, crazy distant fireflies at night, horrible exposure issues. These things for me personally takes default rtx below vv

But better RTX can look good enough to justify it being the best sometimes

[languid mirage]

brtx #1 RTX #2 VV #3

[white willow]

Oh the chunk buffer too

Yall don't know about the crap that is the chunk buffer

24 render distance on anything that's not vanilla world gen is literally unusable

[languid mirage]

nametag thing is in BRTX too btw

[white willow]

The world will start deleting itself in front of your own eyes

[white willow]

Yes. I said that betterRTX can look good enough some people can probably overlook some of these issues

[languid mirage]

I like vv but it's just not good enough to use over RTX. even performance wise

[white willow]

And that's fine that's your opinion

[languid mirage]

java shaders? 100%

[white willow]

I'm just sharing why I prefer VV over default RTX

[languid mirage]

I still think your wierd for it kinda lol.

[white willow]

I also just have some dislike against RTX from a pure dev standpoint cuz seeing all the rookie mistakes they made are sad for a professional project 🤷‍♂️

Literally it was 1 line of code for the sky to actually be used in auto exposure

[white willow]

And you can think that. But I just don't think regular RTX looks good enough to justify the literal game breaking bugs and the horrible chunk buffer over the more stable VV 🤷‍♂️

[languid mirage]

I 100% get that for small things like glow squid emitting light or casting colourd light through glass

how can you skip that.

[white willow]

Iirc it was also one line of code to fix specular transmission

They also completely forgot to enable diffuse light for blocks that use alpha blend

[languid mirage]

vv is just too unpolished - even with what RTX lacks

[white willow]

Which was again

A one line of code fix

😭

[white willow]

Idk VV doesn't feel unpolished to me

Jsut feels in development

VV is not technically speaking a finished product

RTX technically is

I do very strongly believe if RTX did actually get properly finished, put on console and was not filled with all these bugs there would be zero dispute about it

But that's the thing

The lie about console

[languid mirage]

well, thats kind of it. unpolished/unfinished.

I LOVE it don't get me wrong. & glad we have it already.

[white willow]

The fact VV works on everything also just personally puts it above default RTX as well

Cuz I can use it on all of my devices

-# except my switch 2 please mojang make a switch 2 patch

[languid mirage]

absolutely. If Ps5/S|X got it and they made the fixes bRTX does (not even adding new stuff, like waves etc) someone would be stupid to argue that.

& I like that VV works on everything but performance is sooooo unstable

series X can hit 20-30 fps just looking at water

[iron moon]

1. Better Rtx
2. Custom VV
3. Default Rtx
4. Default VV

[white willow]

That I can agree with

[scarlet gust]

Bro I just got back on Discord and the first thing I saw is 67

[scarlet gust]

That's the same FPS that the Xbox Ally X gets if you use BetterRTX with it (and yes for some strange reason the latest Xbox can run the latest version of Minecraft with RTX or BetterRTX but the PS5 can't)

[wind pollen]

Water seems to be a major FPS Killer but FPS can also drop if the settings are too high with high render distance

[scarlet gust]

The Xbox Ally X has an AMD Radeon 890M btw

And dual boots Xbox and Windows 11 Home

So getting it to use BetterRTX is extremely easy

[scarlet gust]

Which is equivalent to an RX 7500 XT

At least in RT cores and generation

[languid mirage]

ps5 doesn't have directx support, is A reason I had heard.

[languid mirage]

maybe i'll agree once vv is "finised "

[scarlet gust]

I looked up the benchmarks for Minecraft RTX on the GPU that the Xbox Ally X uses and the average framerate is 29.9 FPS

And before you say "there's a software limitation" remember it was designed to dual boot Xbox and Windows 11 Home and with the click of a button instantly swap between the operating systems

Also remember that the AMD Radeon 890M is a supported GPU that averages 29.9 FPS without the need of upscaling

Anyway I'm going to buy a new RTX 3080 after the VRM failure incident that can probably get double that without even needing DLSS

And quadruple the FPS of that with it

Glad that while I still had my RTX 3080 fully functioning I actually took some benchmarks

60 FPS without DLSS

120 FPS with DLSS

Controlled Minecraft RTX test

AKA my Minecraft server when no one else is on it (something that rarely happens)

When they are on it my framerates fluctuate way more so I had to benchmark in the short period of time where no one else was on my server

[scarlet gust]

Lies

It supports up to DirectX 12 Ultimate

[scarlet gust]

Disagree

1. BetterRTX
2. Default RTX
3. Custom VV
4. Default VV

You simply can't put custom VV in the #2 spot because the ACES tonemapper is overused and far worse than even the generic default RTX tonemapper

Tonemappers are everything

Default VV literally looks like a log format because of how trash that tonemapper is

There are unfortunately no good VV tonemappers

BetterRTX's tonemapper is typically AgX

Default RTX's tonemapper is probably filmic

Custom VV packs typically overuse and glaze that ACES tonemapper like a krispy kreme donut

And default VV probably uses standard

[wise hinge]

[scarlet gust]

Legitimate question:

Why does everyone glaze ACES like a krispy kreme donut

AgX is way better

For example, this image I found on Discord of Vibrant Visuals could potentially look even better with an AgX tone mapper

But of course it had to be ACES

And the hue shifting is especially apparent in the reds and blues

And this isn't even a screenshot I took

[wise hinge]

my screenshot

[white willow]

so uhm. i dont wanna be that guy but... this looks fine?

i dont understand your agx glaze bro

[scarlet gust]

It's honestly not that bad of a screenshot, but the ACES tonemapping here is making it look slightly worse

[wise hinge]

what's good and bad

[white willow]

says the guy who hasnt messed with vvs customization at all

[scarlet gust]

Yes I have

[white willow]

its literally not man

heres some lore for you

and please actually listen for once

betterRTX didnt have agx added to it until very recently, and even then THE MAJORITY OF PRESETS DO NOT USE ITTTTTT

TWO USE IT

TWO

OUT OF THE LIKE 9

the rest either use the default tonemapper or ACES

[scarlet gust]

Solace and Infectious

[white willow]

solace used aces

i dont believe the agx one ever released

gilded graphics is the second one

[scarlet gust]

Wait no Infectious and Interstellar

[white willow]

oh you know what thats 3 for you

i forgot interstellar uses agx

[scarlet gust]

Wait actually Solace Infectious and Interstellar

[white willow]

brother

brother

im talking to a brick wall

gilded graphics, interstellar and infectious

and you know why my two presets use agx, because I ADDED IT

and even then i use Lottes now. sooooo

im leaving the conversation before i actually get upset

[languid mirage]

Extremely incorrect.

[sonic canopy]

Default tonemappers aren't that great out of the box, yeah, but you can achieve much better results with color grading. For example, I think Hable is quite nice, if you pair it with good color grading to counteract its dullness.

[languid mirage]

we have most good/common tonemappers no?

would be nice if we could adjust curves though to finetune them

[sonic canopy]

I wouldn't say so. They might be the most popular ones (although, most likely by outdated metrics) but it's a very small selection

[languid mirage]

there's 5 no? or is it 4

[white willow]

generic, reinhard, reinhard_luminance, reinhard_luma, hable, aces

[languid mirage]

i didn't think that was overly bad. (assuming it IS 5)

[white willow]

i dont like reinhard_luminance at all

[languid mirage]

so 4 ? unless each reinhard is very different.

[white willow]

luminance is very different

luma and normal are almost the same

but there are small differences

[languid mirage]

so like 4

ig thats not great

[white willow]

generic isnt terrible but it needs so so much work

simply because of how it works

its just hard to work with imo

[scarlet gust]

So VV does have a good tonemapper (reinhard)

Reinhard isn't as good as AgX but it's probably the best one for VV

[white willow]

mmm i love my color / ( 1.0 + color)

but reinhard for how simple it is, does its job ok

but its definitely not my preferred

and seems to be the case for most cuz i dont think ive seen any of the more popular/known packs actually use any reinhard variant

the ones people use are hable(also known as uncharted2) and aces. generic (mojang's custom tonemap) and the reinhards arent used much

[graceful iron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1179985291793145856/1463936895481413773/togif.gif

[scarlet gust]

But reinhard is good

[graceful iron]

It’s mid as hell

Hable reaches the goal the Reinhard tries to hit much better, and every other variant of Reinhard is terrible

[scarlet gust]

Reinhard vs ACES

[white willow]

aces vs reinhard

[graceful iron]

ACES is unironically more accurate in the image above tho

[white willow]

aces has much more depth and is so much less flat

f it, im comparing all of them

[scarlet gust]

Reinhard vs ACES but with some settings adjustments (not my renders btw, I found these online)

[wise hinge]

[white willow]

reinhard, reinhard_luma, reinhard_luminance, generic, hable, aces

here you go, heres an actual comparison

with examples that matter to vv specifically

[scarlet gust]

ACES (left) vs Reinhard (right)

[white willow]

what

[graceful iron]

?

[white willow]

no?

[wise hinge]

[white willow]

i literally gave you direct comparison

[graceful iron]

tf

[white willow]

idk what this is or trying to prove? cuz it proves nothing?

[graceful iron]

you didn’t even send that image 😭

[wise hinge]

[graceful iron]

it might just be edited lmao

[scarlet gust]

Use Reinhard and in color_grading.json turn up the saturation and contrast

[white willow]

generic, reinhard, reinhard luma, reinhard luminance, hable, aces

seems that the only one that handles my color and saturation changes good is aces

LMAO

all the others hate my color grading

EXCEPT ACES

[wise hinge]

ummm yummy aces

[white willow]

and aces is bad

crazyyyyyy

actually generic handles it in a not super ugly way

which is shocking tbh

this may be slightly unfair cuz my color grading is tuned to work with aces specifically but still

it shows how well each handle increases in saturation and contrast tweaks and aces is by far the best here imo

[scarlet gust]

Turn up the saturation and contrast in color_grading.json while using Reinhard and get results that make VV actually look good
For example
Reinhard (left) vs ACES (right)

Reinhard and AgX are unbeatable if you know how to use them

[white willow]

you...

no? thats just

not?

reinhard handles the saturation increases terribly

like REALLY badly

the sun there looks straight garbage

i will induldge you for a minute tho. just for a minute

[white willow]

yea no this is awful

i did what you said to do

this is REALLY bad man

    "color_grading": {
         "midtones": {
        "midtonesMax": 60,
        "contrast": [1.3, 1.3, 1.3],
        "saturation": [1.3, 1.3, 1.3],
        "gain": [1.15, 1.15, 1.15],
        "offset": [0.0, 0.0, 0.0],
        "gamma": [2.2, 2.2, 2.2]
      },
      "highlights": {
        "highlightsMin": 12,
        "enabled": true,
        "contrast": [1.15, 1.15, 1.15],
        "saturation": [1.3, 1.3, 1.3],
        "gain": [1.15, 1.15, 1.15],
        "offset": [0.0, 0.0, 0.0],
        "gamma": [2.2, 2.2, 2.2]
      },
      "shadows": {
        "shadowsMax": 0.34,
        "enabled": true,
        "contrast": [1.3, 1.3, 1.3],
        "saturation": [1.3, 1.3, 1.3],
        "gain": [1.15, 1.15, 1.15],
        "offset": [0.0, 0.0, 0.0],
        "gamma": [2.2, 2.2, 2.2]
      }
    },
    "tone_mapping": {
      "operator": "reinhard"
    }
  }
}

i would really like to mention as well

before you said "just increase saturation and contrast" i was already doing that

    "color_grading": {
         "midtones": {
        "midtonesMax": 60,
        "contrast": [1.1, 1.1, 1.1],
        "saturation": [1.1, 1.1, 1.1],
        "gain": [1.15, 1.15, 1.15],
        "offset": [0.0, 0.0, 0.0],
        "gamma": [2.2, 2.2, 2.2]
      },
      "highlights": {
        "highlightsMin": 12,
        "enabled": true,
        "contrast": [1.05, 1.05, 1.05],
        "saturation": [1.15, 1.15, 1.15],
        "gain": [1.15, 1.15, 1.15],
        "offset": [0.0, 0.0, 0.0],
        "gamma": [2.2, 2.2, 2.2]
      },
      "shadows": {
        "shadowsMax": 0.34,
        "enabled": true,
        "contrast": [1.1, 1.1, 1.1],
        "saturation": [1.1, 1.1, 1.1],
        "gain": [1.15, 1.15, 1.15],
        "offset": [0.0, 0.0, 0.0],
        "gamma": [2.2, 2.2, 2.2]
      }
    },
    "tone_mapping": {
      "operator": "reinhard"
    }
  }
}```

this was before you told me what you thought was the right answer

which showing that image, my hypothesis was correct

reinhard does NOT handle that very well at all

now lets see how the "garbage aces" handles the same config that looked hot trash on reinhard

oh what do you know... IT LOOKS ALOT BETTER

its almost like

aces doesnt suck

direct side by side as well

[graceful iron]

Green

[scarlet gust]

"ACES doesn't suck"
Also ACES shifting reds to orange, blues to purple, and making water look like oil:

[white willow]

i cant bruh

ACES IS NOT MAKING THE WATER OIL

OMG

I CANNOT

it was gonna look that way regardless of tonemap man

[scarlet gust]

I guess that's something a tonemapper can't fix

[white willow]

huh im using aces. wierd that the water doesnt look like oil

oh wait

thats not a tonemapper issue

[graceful iron]

😭

[white willow]

i dont see no oil water

[graceful iron]

Additional question, why are you using my glowing terracotta pack in VV

that shit is not meant for VV in the slightest :p

[white willow]

hmmmm i dont see any issue with the glowing stuff either

lets do a test and see now how this is gonna look with the other tonemaps

hmmmmm

anyone wanna guess?

heres your beloved reinhard

[scarlet gust]

Because it's a really good pack
Also fun fact: my entire Minecraft server only looks good when paired with CatRTX, CatRTX Glowing Terracotta, and CatRTX Gaming RGB Sea Lanterns, and without those my server looks like pure garbage

[white willow]

barely any pixel differentiation

its just pure red

looks bad

even hable handles it poorly without desaturation to help

but its better than reinhard

[graceful iron]

I’m internally pained by my own packs

[scarlet gust]

Never mind forget everything I said earlier Hable is my new favorite VV tonemapper

[white willow]

now if i remove all the aditional saturation in colorgrading, hable looks ok

[graceful iron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1224183738364334270/1459916423215190118/attachment.gif

[white willow]

but adding any more saturation causes it to just blow up

this is the issue

aces lets you boost saturation without issue

the others literally cannot do that

[scarlet gust]

Aw dangit it looks like garbage now

[white willow]

someone needs their eyes checked

[graceful iron]

ok can we get a comparison of Hable and Reinhard with no saturation tweaks

[white willow]

yes

one second

[scarlet gust]

Yes

[white willow]

guess which is hable and which is reinhard

bet you cant

[scarlet gust]

They're the same image but one is brighter

[white willow]

so which is reinhard

thats my question

[scarlet gust]

The one on the left

[white willow]

errrrrrrrrr wrong

its on the right

[scarlet gust]

Just installed Visual Studio Code 2026 and uninstalled Visual Studio Code 2022

Not sure what to expect

Just looks like Visual Studio Code 2022 but more modernized

Dead chat

Really dead chat

How the heck is it even possible to get that many reactions
Keep in mind that this is a server with only 60,000 members

[limpid sequoia]

[sonic canopy]

You are too late, the government already pumped all of it from your Minecraft world

[white willow]

[barren sedge]

Guys im not sure if this is a graphics related one but is there a way to tint a player's screen with some other color?

[scarlet gust]

Still would rather use this than ACES

Anyway I'm trying to create perfect color grading for VV but I haven't made much progress yet

Reinhard is genuinely fire ngl

If you know how to use it

Hold up I'm going to paste my current color grading .json file

Wait first I have to do my homework

I also have to study

I think that card on the top is Amendment 26

Hold on I'm going to check

Yes it is

Wait wrong channel

[limpid sequoia]

lol

[fading kindle]

i hate particles

how to make realistic explosion smoke?

[pale urchin]

Wouldn't #1067869590400544869 be better

[fading kindle]

🥲 ✅

I remade it, fixed the model animation and texture, still no particles yet

[scarlet gust]

NVIDIA PhysX in Minecraft?

[fading kindle]

blender baked animation and record in minecraft

can perform real-time physics simulations, but the results are not satisfactory, unstable, and the tech is not yet mature

[scarlet gust]

NVIDIA PhysX should do the trick
The only problem is that despite it being open-source for developers it's closed-source to anyone using a non-NVIDIA GPU or some specific NVIDIA GPUs (GeForce RTX 5000 Series, NVIDIA Quadro RTX, and really old NVIDIA hardware) and if you have one of those the physics simulations will run on the CPU and framerates will be diabolical from when the physics simulations start to when they end

It's also very stable because it's made by NVIDIA so even on unsupported GPUs the CPU fallback is stable but laggy

Some games that use it are Portal 2 and Portal 2 CE

[fading kindle]

oh i mean using other client-side plugin, not PhysX

im really not good at coding, i have no idea how to put it in minecraft and use it

[scarlet gust]

@white willow I've been working really hard on making Reinhard look like a masterpiece

ACES is overrated and glazed like a krispy kreme donut, so I wanted to do something different

I've got to the point where at first glance it might even look like BetterRTX

My RTX-Like Visuals pack is getting better and better

[white willow]

editing my image through an image editor literally means nothing

whatever you did is not gonna apply to how it would look in game

[scarlet gust]

I boosted contrast and saturation in the color_grading.json file and did not test it so instead I edited your image to have that same contrast and saturation boost I put in the color_grading.json file as a reference point

[white willow]

ok? and that isnt gonna apply in game that wayt

[scarlet gust]

Can't test the real thing because I have lots of homework

[white willow]

i really hope you know that

youre editing an image, that alreaday has boosted contrast and saturation

and in game hdr rendering DOES NOT work the same way as just applying filters in photoshop or some other image editing app

i really dont know any other way to explain that you are objectively incorrect here because you are editing an image with post processing in an app, and it wont even look the same in game

[white willow]

send me that config, and ill run it through my own game then

[white willow]

yea you deep fried everything man

idk what you did

[scarlet gust]

I guess VV just can't look good

[white willow]

or hear me out

you made a bad config

because its still deep fried no matter what tonemap

[graceful iron]

What the shit am I looking at

[white willow]

shadowsMax : 0

that makes sense

that should never be zero

i fixed your deep fried mess

but its really just over saturated to all hell

as i said

your adjustments in an image editor are not gonna apply nicely to in game visuals

[graceful iron]

holy colors

[white willow]

upon reducing the saturation

fine, you made a solid config

but you can literally get this same look with much less effort with aces

🤷‍♂️

[wise hinge]

you worked hard on editing an image

[white willow]

with saturation at 1.0 the color grading config looks fine, contrast is causing a bit of crunching but otherwise its usable

[wise hinge]

fog yum yum

[scarlet gust]

What should I set my shadowsmax to

[white willow]

0.3 roughly

and highlights min can be 1 just fine but 12-20 is a good spot

[scarlet gust]

I'm on 1% battery

Guys I can't find a charger

Guys I found a charger

[scarlet gust]

I won't be able to change my config now but don't worry because I took some notes and I'm going to fix my config soon

WHAT THE HECK DID I JUST READ IN MY INBOX

What is this even a review for

Dead chat

[scarlet gust]

But it takes way more effort to eliminate ACES hue shifting than it does to eliminate Reinhard hue shifting

Tonemapper rant

@white willow is Reinhard Luminance better than Reinhard and how does it handle highlights? It better not shift the hues of highlights, and if it does, I'll just use Reinhard

Also what does Reinhard Luma and Hable do

The 2 things I care about in a tonemapper are how good it looks and how it handles highlights and shadows

Hue shifting is the dealbreaker of the overglazed ACES tonemapper

And Generic simply looks like garbage

Reinhard seems pretty good though

And maybe Reinhard Luminance

Not sure about Reinhard Luma or Hable

[white willow]

luma and normal are basically the same

hable is more filmic

luminance is garbage

[scarlet gust]

I'll just use Reinhard then

It seems to have a lot of potential

[scarlet gust]

AgX is no longer my favorite tonemapper (I found a better tonemapper called AgMax)

Really made me realize that AgX is kinda desaturated

ACES still sucks though

I hate hue shifting

[wise hinge]

ok

[tribal trail]

Ofc it can, with aces

[rancid seal]

Bedrock vs java shaders is in the past. No we have vv vs rtx

[quick nymph]

Every tone mapper serves it's own purpose

[wise hinge]

sky color keyframe in lighting json when :p

[quick nymph]

Soon TM

[wise hinge]

in our dreams ™

[silent zealot]

More keyframes.

[quick nymph]

Everywhere!!

[silent zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/reze-chainsaw-man-chainsawman-reze-movie-bomb-devil-gif-3957267890986743487

[sonic canopy]

Hue shifting is not the end of the world imo. It looks alright when you have bloom enabled as a smooth brightness gradient still communicates the correct color across quite well. It only looks bad when there's no bloom

[quick nymph]

I don't even notice hue shifting much tbh

[gloomy abyss]

Personally I’ll prevent aces

Too punchy bright contrasted colors.

Lucid horizon VV pack

[scarlet gust]

My config was just garbage. Looks good now though

[wise hinge]

yayy

[sonic canopy]

Oo, looks like rasterized overlays such as first person fire overlay in VV shouldn't have extreme banding anymore

Previously they were stored as linear RGB, but they should be stored as sRGB now instead

[scarlet gust]

Linear RGB is pure garbage

Somehow worse than ACES

And ACES has the Abney effect

[long ruin]

ok

[wise hinge]

ok

[silk badge]

Ok

[pale urchin]

bro just saying stuff

[limpid sequoia]

ok

[tribal trail]

ok

[wise hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/hah-righttt-yeah-right-whatever-you-say-ok-gif-16175049

[wise hinge]

ummmmmmm auto exposure

[limpid sequoia]

ok

[wise hinge]

💀

[limpid sequoia]

[scarlet gust]

Discord on mobile is known well for memory leaks like that

Bruh I clicked the video and the same thing happened to me

By the way I've made even more progress on BetterVV

I'm going to host a website where people can make BetterVV presets and I can accept and deny them. I'm also making a preset called BetterVV 1.0 as a baseline to modify and then BetterVV 1.0 Aura by CatGamer693 as my own preset that will completely get rid of hue shifting while still looking amazing as well as fixing shadows and reflections.

[wise hinge]

[scarlet gust]

Why do I have 350GB of render cache

Found that out after checking my disk and seeing that there is absolutely no disk space left at all

I just set something that deletes cache older than 1 day old and hey look my disk is no longer wasted to oblivion

[long ruin]

#off-topic

[scarlet gust]

It's render cache so I'm technically using the correct channel

[limpid sequoia]

😭

[scarlet gust]

I should clear my render cache more often

[scarlet gust]

No I'm not
AgX and AgMax are much better tonemappers though

I also have been reverse engineering VV's Reinhard tonemapper to look like AgX or possibly AgMax

[primal girder]

Reinhard looks hazy

[scarlet gust]

Lies

I just finished making it look good

Although I won't be able to upload some screenshots from my PC because it's midnight, my PC's loud, and a few other reasons

[quick nymph]

If you are just making VV packs you aren't going to solve any problem, and for some reason I doubt you have the skills to code a deferred shader which fixes those issues, so have fun but no one is going to use BetterVV

[limpid sequoia]

[languid mirage]

REFRACTION 😩

[wise hinge]

very glowing

[wise hinge]

oh no

[languid mirage]

dafuq

[wise hinge]

noise real

[limpid sequoia]

but i keep it

i don't have any choices

i drawn it by hand

[limpid sequoia]

noise
noise
nosie
and
nosie

[wise hinge]

i kinda gave up

[limpid sequoia]

try perlin noise then

[wise hinge]

i tried.

voroni, voroni fractal, clouds1, 2, and 3, perlin noise, simplex noise

[fading kindle]

[wise hinge]

[quick nymph]

Decrease scale

[limpid sequoia]

i know how it hurt

i have the best way!

draw it by hand

[rancid seal]

Beautiful

[limpid sequoia]

[wise hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-on-fire-funny-gif-3025681452272284679

i could get the best results with voroni fractal noise though

[tribal trail]

[wise hinge]

alex emoji

[limpid sequoia]

[limpid sequoia]

[sonic canopy]

What kind of render cache? This channel is specifically about graphics in bedrock and I'm not aware of bedrock having any kind of "render cache"

[sonic canopy]

What do you mean by reverse engineering?

[rancid seal]

The end sky lol.

[pale urchin]

The end sky

[rancid seal]

The end sky is basiclly a white texture of nosie

It reminds me how the end sky looks like if you make the fog have white colour or drink night vision potion.

[rancid seal]

That's pointless imo. Vv is not rtx. Almost every vv pack creator is satisfied with abilities mojang already gave to them.
There was a point of creating better rtx, because it fixed a lot of issues vv hasn't heard about. And if you are going to fix 2-3 vv problems, it will be
forgotten. And I am pretty sure that any "BetterVV" preset will look like a regular vv pack or maybe worse to be honest. You can try, but I am not sure this thing will be that useful.

[scarlet gust]

BetterVV Aura Preset by CatGamer693

I have spent hours trying to figure out how to make VV actually look good, and I think I've done it. Not releasing it out to the public yet because it's still in testing phases, but I think I've made something revolutionary. In fact, it's so good, that even my anarchy server looks good with it.
Hue shifting sucks. I think we can all agree on that, but my BetterVV Aura preset eliminates hue shifting completely while still looking vibrant. I also made sharper high resolution shadows, and I am also trying to figure out how to give everything that emits light point lights without performance loss (which might be impossible because it's VV, not RTX, but I guess we'll find out). Anyway, here it is. (Sorry for the bitrate being so low, I don't have Discord Nitro)

[scarlet gust]

So far I've fixed 2 VV problems #1182091012177399809 message

I've fixed tone mapping and shadow quality issues

And I'm currently trying to give everything that emits light point lights without ruining performance

[wise hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-gif-8272342975911687520

[scarlet gust]

If RTX point lights have no impact, then I can probably find a way to do it with VV.

[wise hinge]

[scarlet gust]

Is my concept of BetterVV good though? Having people make presets that push the limits of VV, like for example in my preset that I made for BetterVV, eliminating hue shifting while still looking vibrant and getting sharper high resolution shadows?

NO ONE SAID REINHARD? It has so much potential. I even created a BetterVV preset that uses reinhard to get vibrant colors with none of the hue shifting. #1182091012177399809 message

If you're wondering, BetterVV is a concept I made of creating a bunch of presets that push the limits of VV.

It's similar to BetterRTX, but for VV.

[wise hinge]

you just made a vv pack? no?
what did you mean by bettervv.

[long ruin]

Tbh that was from 2024 (again) and things in VV have changed a lot

So opinions may have changed in 2 years

[limpid sequoia]

no we don't need

[graceful iron]

https://tenor.com/view/suicidal-penguin-suicidal-penguin-mountain-penguin-suicidal-penguin-suicide-penguin-gif-9523583683405012896

[limpid sequoia]

[limpid sequoia]

wat is dat

Bet-tuh VV innit?

[scarlet gust]

I hate hue shifting so much that I made an entire mod for Vibrant Visuals to fix it. Shadows also suck in default VV so I fixed those too. I basically reverse engineered how VV interprets color and shadows.

[graceful iron]

the internal config files

?

were you just editing those?

[scarlet gust]

Yes

I got rid of hue shifting by using Reinhard and adjusting the contrast and saturation until it looked like AgX or AgMax
Then I set shadows to blocky and used 512x resolution

[sonic canopy]

Is it a resource pack or do you modify files in the renderer folder?

[graceful iron]

so its just a resource pack with the lighting configs in the renderer folder changed

[sonic canopy]

I haven't heard any indication so far that anything in the renderer folder was modified

[graceful iron]

hmmmm

idk he said yes to chaniging the "internal config files"

but yeah none of his changes are anything related to the internal files so youre prob right

:P

[limpid sequoia]

fog real

[wise hinge]

da fog

[white willow]

https://tenor.com/view/the-fog-is-coming-brutality-gif-26972933

[limpid sequoia]

[wise hinge]

wadar

[limpid sequoia]

woh-uh

[scarlet gust]

Yeah all I did is make VV's Reinhard tonemapper look like AgMax, I don't have the coding knowledge to force a tonemapper that VV isn't supposed to use
And for the sharper shadows I set shadows to blocky 512x

[wise hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/melvin-meme-cat-cat-meme-melvin-meme-meme-melvin-gif-5576245011655696514

[scarlet gust]

Trying to find the native shadow resolution for VV

1024x is bugged as heck

512x seems fine

Haven't tried any other resolutions yet but yeah it's probably 512x

I don't even want to try 2048x after seeing what 1024x does

[scarlet gust]

But anyway yeah. 512x is (probably) the sweet spot for VV shadow resolution

[wise hinge]

ok

[scarlet gust]

I think it's 512x, but I'm not sure.

[rancid seal]

Vibrant visuals graphics mode should be renamed to dark visuals at this point.

RTX is the best!!!!

[limpid sequoia]

show us entity PBR

[limpid sequoia]

2048

innit

[scarlet gust]

1024x is extremely buggy, so I doubt an even higher resolution would fix the issue. Mojank themselves don't recommend above 512x for playability and stability, and after testing 1024x myself, I can verify it's extremely buggy and unstable

[limpid sequoia]

so just use 768

[wise hinge]

i think the vv's cascade shadow resolution is 2048?

[limpid sequoia]

'at balance between visuals and performance

[limpid sequoia]

higher

[wise hinge]

[limpid sequoia]

[wise hinge]

bruh

[white willow]

Correct

[limpid sequoia]

[languid mirage]

if you want pixel shadows - you put your texture res... 16, 32 etc...

[limpid sequoia]

[scarlet gust]

I'm not referring to performance
Shadows just completely break above 512x
Their stability gets far worse

[limpid sequoia]

[white willow]

Texel size does nothing for performance

[limpid sequoia]

that's fair because i have never care about that

[scarlet gust]

I'm not talking about performance

[white willow]

It doesn't even change the resolution of the shadows

They are still 2048

[limpid sequoia]

god i thought it was

[languid mirage]

no difference from x16 to soft shadows

[limpid sequoia]

but thanks for ur info

[wise hinge]

[white willow]

There's one difference between blocky and soft that idk how it happened tho

[scarlet gust]

I'm talking about shadow accuracy

[limpid sequoia]

[white willow]

When looking through glass, performance is cut by almost 30% with soft_shadows

[limpid sequoia]

so is this a main?

[languid mirage]

yet you said stability ....

[limpid sequoia]

[scarlet gust]

512x seems fine, although 1024x makes the shadow constantly fluctuate

[white willow]

Then you're best accuracy is using soft_shadows lul

You aren't getting accuracy in pixel aligned shadows

[languid mirage]

or just use pixel shadows the way they're intended

[white willow]

Soft shadows attempts to mimic shadow penumbras

[rancid seal]

Show me how glass changes the colour of light

[white willow]

Via PCF

[limpid sequoia]

[white willow]

VV could realistically do that tho

[limpid sequoia]

[white willow]

They just haven't implemented it yet

[limpid sequoia]

sound great

[limpid sequoia]

show us entity first

[rancid seal]

No u

Glass

[limpid sequoia]

fair

[white willow]

Glass changing light color is not something exclusive to raytracing because it's been proven that it can be done without it

Just mojang haven't added anything of the sorts to vv yet

[limpid sequoia]

I think it's better of Mojunk use Forward+ than Deferred Rendering

[white willow]

Debatable

[rancid seal]

Rtxjang

[limpid sequoia]

because of it's friendly with transparents more than Def

[white willow]

Fair

[limpid sequoia]

alr

[limpid sequoia]

Ndivia too

[rancid seal]

I mean, the light looks more realistic in rtx, also refractions. I don't remember if you have them in vv

[limpid sequoia]

[white willow]

Stochastic transparency is a thing tho but that's unrelated

[limpid sequoia]

okay

[rancid seal]

I somehow get fun working with rtx

[limpid sequoia]

yeah! that's good

[wise hinge]

meow

[limpid sequoia]

[white willow]

Again tho, while not VV, it's doable

Also no raytracing

Just voxel stuff

[limpid sequoia]

[rancid seal]

For example, I love the progress I made.

[limpid sequoia]

why the horizon looks so weird?

[rancid seal]

Didn't work to sunset sky yet

[limpid sequoia]

i see

now i'm suffering from homework so i can't finish PBR for my project yet

[scarlet gust]

Apparently it's called the gamblecore effect or something like that

But anyway yeah don't use 1024x

It fluctuates really bad

[scarlet gust]

RTX can do that too, and now VV can do it as well without any of the hue shifting

And yes, I pushed VV's Reinhard tonemapper to it's absolute limits to make it look this good

I specifically tried to replicate the look of the AgMax tonemapper

Did I do a good job?

Wow this video was absolutely crushed by Discord compression

I guess that's what I get for trying to download ad-locked content on Opera GX

At least there's no memory leaks like what Chrome has

And it's not full of spyware like Safari and Edge

Or filled with AI bloatware like Edge and Firefox

Although it is in rare cases like this where I temporarily use a different browser

Btw I have 4 browsers

Safari (the browser I do my homework on), Chrome (my incognito browser), Opera GX (the browser I usually use, although it has incompatibility with some stuff and I don't fully trust the incognito mode), and Edge (the browser I'm always forgetting to uninstall, I've had it installed for 374 days and I've never used it nor remembered to uninstall it)

[limpid sequoia]

[scarlet gust]

Did I forget to mention that I also use Safari for encoding and decoding files to different formats? Idk why, but that's simply easier than it is on Opera GX.

I'm referring to mobile browsers by the way. On PC I only use Opera GX as my browser and nothing else.

[scarlet gust]

Never mind it happened on Safari too

Are mconverter ads actually this intensive on resources?

[wise hinge]

ban

[quick nymph]

Mate, hate to break it to ya but it looks exactly like a VV pack.

[quick nymph]

wdym 1024x is bugged?

[scarlet gust]

1024x shadows are way less precise and fluctuate way more than 512x shadows for some strange reason

[quick nymph]

Example?

[scarlet gust]

Does it at least look good though? No hue shifting yet tons of vibrancy and contrast and sharp 512x shadows?

[quick nymph]

Well, I honestly can't say due to the extremely low quality

[scarlet gust]

That's called Discord compression because I don't have Discord Nitro

[quick nymph]

Yeah, well it makes it incredibly difficult to see.

[scarlet gust]

It's 1 AM right now so I probably won't be able to give a good example

At least not right now

[quick nymph]

Have some sleep

[rancid seal]

I worked only on the night and the day sky, and even without changing sunset/sunrise, it looks cool

[tropic rampart]

yeah, i really hope VV gets it at some point.

[wise hinge]

[limpid sequoia]

[rancid seal]

This is my preset, try it out

[limpid sequoia]

[rancid seal]

I thought it was vv sun for a sec

So, the sun isn't bad, but the light comming from it isn't smooth

Oh yes, minecraft loves scaling images

I've no idea what am I doing wrong, but minecraft just scales image and adds this weird white nosiy stripe

[quick nymph]

That is abominal!

[rancid seal]

Im trying to figure out what's wrong

Cause why there's white stripe at the bottom of the texture

It reminds me vv sun, not gonna lie

[sonic canopy]

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/minecraft/creator/documents/material-files?view=minecraft-bedrock-stable

Official material docs! It's wrong in a few places but it's a start

[white willow]

Woah no way

What

oh this is a bit less different that i thought

but still very nice

[sonic canopy]

Year it's the other kind of graphics related material files, not material.bin

[rancid seal]

I already want to post the update of my resource pack, but there are a lot of things to do...

[languid mirage]

Bliss - absolutely KILLS it with water effects

[limpid sequoia]

good

[scarlet gust]

https://bedrock.graphics/

BetterRTX does a much better job at scaling images

And also basically everything else

[scarlet gust]

How do I try your preset

[scarlet gust]

Dead chat

[languid mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-confused-look-confused-face-funny-funny-look-gif-4850532509577233362

[long ruin]

he always says that

[willow needle]

Strawberry Deferred V4.0 Rewrite

[limpid sequoia]

🔥

[wise hinge]