Graphics General

[brave star]

i didnt even know that.

[white willow]

Yea

[brave star]

Oh I see, Foxystar

thats pretty cool

well, keep up the good work

looks nice

[fluid holly]

i hope vv gets features like global illumination and refraction soon

[blazing whale]

Strawberry Vibrant Enhanced V2.1

Strawberry Deferred V4.0

[quick nymph]

Never gonna happen

[rancid seal]

I hope ray tracing gets updated. 😭

[tropic rampart]

i really want proper coloured stained glass shadows in VV :<
mojang pleas

[tribal trail]

That’s funny

[rancid seal]

Ik?

[thorn bison]

i wonder why they stopped development. it had a lot of potential

[daring jewel]

If im not wrong rtx in minecraft was just supposed to promote the new rtx line up for nvidia cards. Also the devs working on rtx were not that experienced with it and due to how this required specific hardware to run they didnt see it being worth it to keep it alive.

Especially with vv coming aswell

[thorn bison]

dang

that's a real shame

[white willow]

So what happened was, RTX was a mismanaged project, it was intended to come to consoles and wasn't meant to be "just promotional material". But people left the team, management refused to fill missing positions despite the technical director at the time asking for fills, immense crunch to release the project, then shortly after releasing it, pretty much everyone left. Basically killing RTX in the process

[daring jewel]

Dam, I guess management just didn't really care. Sad to see so much potential go to wasteb

[fluid holly]

y dyu think so?

[languid mirage]

Refraction effects are more than possible.

Ray traced GI though, definitely isn’t happening.

[fluid holly]

there are a lot of ways to fake it without raytracing tho right

[languid mirage]

What, Global illumination?

There’s ways to fake it - But nothing will look the same as real GI. Ex VV world lighting.

[languid mirage]

A good bit of Refraction effects can be faked easily though.
Like, Super easily.

[white willow]

Best method

Screenspace refraction

It's literally just refraction in screenspace

GI has multiple methods you can do

An old school one was reflective shadow mapping. It's solid but has some issues (light leaking)

They could also do fog light propagation with floodfill

[languid mirage]

What’s this?
Sounds like the floodfill algorithm would be able to interact with the Volumetric fog?

That would be dope as hell.

[white willow]

yea a few java shaders do this. lemme get a photo

its quite awesome

[long ruin]

I love it

Photon and Bliss do it really good

[sonic canopy]

This image is in 12 bit HDR XYZ color space, in order to view it properly you have to be on desktop pc with HDR supported display, open this image in full screen in discord app and magnify it further by left clicking, or open it in chrome browser. It cannot be displayed on android devices sadly, next time I will use a more reasonable hdr format that can be viewed on mobile

[humble drift]

Monkeys

[tribal trail]

why it looks so weird when i zoom out

[sonic canopy]

Make sure u zoom in all the way

This is how it's supposed to look like

[quasi trench]

oh wth

iphone defo not a candidate

[proud pike]

Same

Looks like this for me

[sonic canopy]

Even if you download it?

[proud pike]

Yes

[sonic canopy]

What if you open it in a browser

I was hoping apple devices would do their color magic and will be able to handle XYZ, but I guess not

[proud pike]

Same thing

In discord app and in device’s photos app

[sonic canopy]

Well that sucks

[proud pike]

id imagine other hdr formats might work better on mobile devices

[iron moon]

I can see it on my phone

[sonic canopy]

Does it look like this?

[iron moon]

Less vibrant or saturated idk how to describe it

[proud pike]

Like one of these images?

[sonic canopy]

In that case it's likely not being displayed properly

[iron moon]

Like the first one

[proud pike]

Yep

Not it

[iron moon]

Still looking awesome

[proud pike]

Not quite what it’s supposed to look like

Can’t even take advantage of one the best displays on the consumer market smh

[sonic canopy]

XYZ can't really fully be displayed on any display tbh, or by any other means. Some of the XYZ colors are "imaginary" and can only be reproduced by directly stimulating specific receptor types in the eye. So we'll never have XYZ displays. But we might have XYZ glasses, that would be able to fire lasers into your eyes and stimulate individual receptors in isolation 👁️

[proud pike]

[sonic canopy]

How about now

[sonic canopy]

Oh nvm! It can be opened on Android, it just has to be opened in browser. Can't view it in the gallery

[long ruin]

Yep!

[sonic canopy]

What did you do to view it?

[sonic canopy]

Are you able to view the initial image?

[sonic canopy]

Also do you see these artefacts on your screen or does it look completely normal?

[sonic canopy]

Can someone with an iphone test this one

[silent zealot]

I dont have HDR enabled(I have monitors on my desktop that can run it) but why does it change colour depending on brwoser or discord? Im guessing its just Discords compression algo?

[sonic canopy]

Discord does some weird things with color management

[long ruin]

Yeah I can

[white willow]

this is what i got with HDR enabled on my monitor and opened in browser

[sonic canopy]

Which browser? Firefox doesn't work sadly

[sonic canopy]

Also try downloading and opening this one locally

[white willow]

that would be why

and importing the raw avif file into like photoshop gives discord results

[sonic canopy]

How does this one look if you just view it in the photos app?

It works on my end. But the initial one that I sent doesn't

[white willow]

my monitor doesnt have the best hdr tho

[sonic canopy]

That screenshot looks a bit crunched, but you don't see the artifacts on your monitor, right?

[white willow]

i dont notice any outstanding artifacts

oh you know why it might be crunched

when i screenshot it auto converted back to sdr

it looks fine on native image

[sonic canopy]

Yeah. Or my phone displays it as sdr

[white willow]

we love the take picture with phone strat

but yea it looks pretty artifact free

yea none when viewed through photos app

[sonic canopy]

Does it look the same if you open it in chrome? (If you have it)

[white willow]

unfortuntately i dont have chrome

[sonic canopy]

Ok fair enough. I didn't dare to test edge tho XD

[white willow]

id have to set edge as default...

whcih is

ew

but ill test it rq

edge loads the image

looks a bit worse than the photos app though

doesnt look like there are any artifacts

doesnt let me zoom very much

[sonic canopy]

Edge is truly the highest quality browser

[white willow]

the hdr image with SDR monitor output. vs edge (monitor also in sdr)

edge loses some pixel detail

[sonic canopy]

can you see more details when HDR is enabled? Especially in the blue glass. With SDR it just clamps higher color values to saturated blue. But with HDR you should be able to see a bit more of the lantern block showing through

[white willow]

The results are the same with HDR on vs Off

[sonic canopy]

It doesn't come through very well, but I can see whiter color with HDR enabled

[sonic canopy]

Even in photos app?

[white willow]

At least with the comparison between photos app and edge

Edge loses that like orange color in the redstone

[sonic canopy]

What if you compare photos app to itself, with and without hdr

[sonic canopy]

That's what I did here

[white willow]

I can do that later

I just got off my pc

[sonic canopy]

Alright, no worries

[white willow]

But my monitor is also only HDR 400

[sonic canopy]

So is mine

I wanna make some HDR screenshots with VV as well, but later

[quasi trench]

its ok guys mine isn’t too far ahead at hdr600

[quasi trench]

not working supposedly

[sonic canopy]

HDR monke

[sonic canopy]

No HDR vs HDR

[thorn bison]

i see it properly when i zoom in

i wonder why it changes colours like that

the file when saved 0_0

[quick nymph]

Is this how it's supposed to look?

[sonic canopy]

Yeah

[sonic canopy]

Although if you have a proper HDR display, you should be able to see more details in the blue glass block

It shouldn't just be solid blue but there should be some white visible from a sea lantern block

[proud pike]

Works fine on my android

In browser that is

Will try on my iOS devices when I get back home

[sonic canopy]

It's possible that your phone can tonemap & display a less bright and less vibrant version of the image, without actual HDR or wide color gamut

[proud pike]

But my phone is actually switching to it's automatic HDR profile when I view it in the browser

It's definitely proper HDR for me

Atleast on my phone

[sonic canopy]

Oo alright then, that's nice

Which browser are you using?

[proud pike]

Yeah it's significantly brighter in the browser than the screenshot I sent here

[proud pike]

Just chrome

[thorn bison]

works in my browser too

[sonic canopy]

Which phone do you use? I can't get image HDR working on my Galaxy S10, but it works with HDR videos

[proud pike]

S23

[thorn bison]

the 2nd screenshot looks super realistic

[fluid holly]

the grass always looks so good in ur pack

[proud pike]

Yeah, not right on iOS

[sonic canopy]

Even if viewed locally?

[proud pike]

Let me try rq

[proud pike]

Discord app, photos app

[sonic canopy]

Actually, try this one as well. It was made in a different color space, and it works on macbooks. Not my screenshot btw
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/704786189944881203/1401972650233827348/RTXHDRBigHouse.avif?ex=68b67987&is=68b52807&hm=2070e03677fca958b15e80ad369a12f7a5af44d5db0b418236c95a4d765bc5cc&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=2162&height=1216

[proud pike]

It can’t handle the colour transformation it seems

Is this right?

Or is this more accurate in the preview

[thorn bison]

that one works properly in my browser

[sonic canopy]

Which device?

[thorn bison]

windows 11

[sonic canopy]

Does the image trigger HDR rendering?

[proud pike]

Chrome

[proud pike]

That’s not quite so obvious on iOS, let me check on a hdr video real quick

[sonic canopy]

Try downloading the image as well. On macbooks it only works when zooming in discord or when viewed locally but not in a browser cuz browser link opens a different image format or something

[proud pike]

the transition to hdr is so subtle in a hdr video that it’s basically imperceptible

Let me try local

[proud pike]

No difference in the local photos app

[proud pike]

looks like this

Let me try reference mode on my display

Yeah, no difference

[quick nymph]

I have s10e and it doesn't seem to work for that image, but it works for photos I take.

[wise hinge]

[iron moon]

Is this blender or something?

[sonic canopy]

No, it's an in-game screenshot of my spectral path tracer shaderpack for BRTX

[iron moon]

How did you manage to add poly mesh to mc?

[sonic canopy]

Well.... Via polymesh lol

This is using polymesh geometry

[iron moon]

I thought it wasn't supported

At least on bedrock

I knew about some work around to make poly mesh possible with entities but not for blocks

[sonic canopy]

Ah. Yeah, that's an entity

[thorn bison]

"THIS IS WATER???" XD

looks great 👍

[wise hinge]

That is lava

[thorn bison]

DUN DUN DUUUUUN

[wise hinge]

[thorn bison]

patchythefox then attempted to swim and was never seen again

[white willow]

Yk I forgot it was that screenshot 😂

It was more of a response to the fact that water can just be... literally invisible sometimes

They hadn't used VV very much at all before that

[thorn bison]

been there

[simple tendon]

Sun rays

[thorn bison]

oooh

what pack is that?

[simple tendon]

Solace visuals :3

[thorn bison]

very pretty

[blazing whale]

Strawberry Vibrant Enhanced V2.1

[rugged coral]

my blocks seem to have disparate rendering from others. on the corner you can see ash-covered basalt, which shows up as a slightly warmer hue than regular basalt despite having the same MERS

has anyone encountered this issue, or is familiar with it?

[simple tendon]

Ikr :3

Some day

[thorn bison]

didn't even know you could use normal maps like that

[wise hinge]

[simple tendon]

Is pretty silly

Anyways that enough of me sending pictures :3

[wise hinge]

[simple tendon]

I have my brightness pretty bright

[thorn bison]

i love the way u use mer maps

[willow needle]

Thank you

[sonic canopy]

HDR screenshot of Vibrant Visuals

This one is a little brighter

HDR vs SDR

HDR vs SDR

These ones are technically inaccurate, but they have much higher saturation and utilise wider color gamut, so overall they look more interesting on HDR WCG displays

[thorn bison]

YESSSS

[wise hinge]

[thorn bison]

we finally have vv changelog 😭

[sonic canopy]

:)

Improved quality of gamma correction on PC and Consoles and fixed the brightness of Creeper textures in the gamma calibration screen in Vibrant Visuals

[thorn bison]

omfg finally 😭

[wise hinge]

what does it mean?

[daring jewel]

is this colored lighting i see

[thorn bison]

auto brightness

[thorn bison]

i sure hope so

can't test it rn though

[daring jewel]

i will keep a eye out for updates on pc

[pale urchin]

It says static_light is currently unused

[thorn bison]

wonder what it does

[proud pike]

Is this how it is supposed to look like?

I’m assuming not due to the blueish sea lanterns

[long ruin]

I get horrible banding lol

[proud pike]

💀

[sonic canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/alacazam-tada-cinderella-fairy-godmother-magic-wand-gif-7058475462495640747

[thorn bison]

fr

[sonic canopy]

The main distinction should be very vibrant red glow of the crimson log, in comparison to a more dull glow in the previous HDR one

SDR vs HDR vs HDR with re-interpreted color gamut

[proud pike]

That is pretty apparent

[sonic canopy]

Which VV packs have very vibrant sunsets/sunrises?

[thorn bison]

poggy's

[graceful iron]

Is this correct?

(In discord vs browser)

[sonic canopy]

Based on screenshots, it doesn't look like it

When you are viewing these images, you should feel the difference, displayed colors will become noticeably brighter and more vibrant. You might have to view them on PC tho, if you have HDR capable display & HDR enabled in the operating system

[thorn bison]

woah

what pack is that?

[sonic canopy]

Poggy's :)

[sonic canopy]

The last one here actually hurts to look at with HDR, it's like you are actually starring into the sun

(this is a good thing)

[tribal trail]

omg omg omg

[tribal trail]

it's the best day of my life

[long ruin]

Sigh

[white willow]

our answers about the creeper faces have been answered

they changed that

(i have not backread so if anyone has mentioned this my bad)

oh it has been

[white willow]

is this the mcpedl version or the latest beta test

actually wait if you arent in the server it wouldnt be the latest beta test

[sonic canopy]

That's mcpedl yeah

[white willow]

i knew something looked a lil off lol

[languid mirage]

So it’s not fully implemented yet?

[wise hinge]

no vv clouds = 100x times realism

[fluid holly]

at the cost of the water looking a bit metallic

[wise hinge]

great. "adjust gamma"

default one was little a bit dark so i'm using 120%

[sonic canopy]

If/when you are making VV packs imo it's best to stick to the default setting and instead adjust gamma via color grading

[wise hinge]

oh alright
I've been making pack while setting around 120%

[sonic canopy]

You can check the value in options.txt, multiply it by 2.2 and use that in color grading gamma, and that'd give you the exact same look with default (100%) gamma adjustment setting

[blazing whale]

broken player shadow with point light

[wise hinge]

sorry for ping, this one?

[sonic canopy]

Is it actually broken, or is there just an overlap of multiple light sources?

[sonic canopy]

Yup. So you'd use 2.684 in color grading gamma

[blazing whale]

1 light source (soft shadows)

[wise hinge]

it's broken for now
Someone experienced 1x1 square shadow around the point light sources (iirc blocky shadow setting)

[blazing whale]

Thank for information

[wise hinge]

Should I use 2.684 in midtones?

[sonic canopy]

If you are only using midtones yeah, but if you are also grading shadows and highlights, then use it everywhere

Btw are you already using any gamma in your current color grading?

[wise hinge]

I was using 2.3

[sonic canopy]

In that case the correct new value to use would be 2.3*1.22 = 2.806

[wise hinge]

thanks for the info! 2.684 worked really well

-# (I was using 2.3 for no reason)

[wise hinge]

the new ui is very useful anyway

[languid mirage]

Am I crazy or did Auto exposure get improved slightly?

Coloured lights 😫

[wise hinge]

not sure the first one is working as intended

[leaden stump]

Hi, what is this seed and position?

[wise hinge]

i don't remember

[leaden stump]

Thats ok me too

[simple tendon]

Point light quality?

[thorn bison]

yep

latest preview

[wise hinge]

?

[simple tendon]

Is that a new setting- i don't remember seeing that lel

[wise hinge]

you can see that on preview/beta and enable the setting which says " RenderDragon features for creators"

[simple tendon]

Ah alr

What does it actually do tho

Like the point light thingy

[wise hinge]

emits lights with colors

[tropic rampart]

I think it did, but still needs some work. the End still looks way too dark if you look towards the end flash, when it's supposed to look bright (like when you look away from the end flash when it happens).

[thorn bison]

pretty sunrayssss

[wise hinge]

[tropic rampart]

has anyone here been able to get local_lighting/local_lighting.json to work in the latest preview?

as like, it says this, but i tried doing that and had no results.

[wise hinge]

[tropic rampart]

hows it worky :<

{
"format_version": "1.21.120", 
"minecraft:local_light_settings": 
{ 
"minecraft:torch": 
    { 
    "light_color": "#D117C8", 
    "light_type": "point_light" 
    },
"minecraft:copper_torch": 
    { 
    "light_color": "#D117C8", 
    "light_type": "static_light" 
    },
"minecraft:lantern": 
    { 
    "light_color": "2fff00", 
    "light_type": "point_light" 
    },
"minecraft:soul_lantern": 
    { 
    "light_color": "2fff00", 
    "light_type": "static_light" 
    }
}

i did this

i know static isn't implemented but i'd have expected the point light colours to change. (i specifically picked colours that are very far off from the vanilla ones)

and it looks exactly the same as vanilla

(copper torch is broken in vanilla in latest preview)

[thorn bison]

does anyone know where options.txt is located?

[wise hinge]

from my testing, setting light type as static light gave me the color that I didn't set

[tropic rampart]

as in?

as i specifically set 1 torch and 1 lantern as static, and 1 torch and 1 lantern as point.

both torches as D117C8
both lanterns as 2fff00

and none of them match what i set

also did static work for you at all? whats it look like

[wise hinge]

1 - Point light setting on / without a custom color ( i think it's not working as intended )
2- off/ with a custom color
3- on/without a custom color

also more testing I did -
4. on / static/ without a custom color > emitted a color which I didn't set also blocky shadows around a light source
5. on / static/ with a custom color > same as 5 also blocky shadows around a light source
6. off / static/ without a custom color > same as 2

[wise hinge]

seems lantern's config is working correctly

[tropic rampart]

i mean, the lanterns i placed should both glow green

not sure why but it seems it just didn't see the file in my pack

[wise hinge]

opps.. 2fff00 is green

uhh

[tropic rampart]

yeah, i specifically set colours that should be immedietely obvious

i think the file names are correct?

[wise hinge]

naming looks correct

oh

[wise hinge]

you are missing a brace at the last line

}

[tropic rampart]

ah. that would explain it!

weird that it didn't tell me about it

in the log

[wise hinge]

[tropic rampart]

and the UI that tells me that im importing a texture pack has once again gone missing!

[wise hinge]

weird

[tropic rampart]

and it's back this time!

[wise hinge]

[tropic rampart]

like, 2 imports ago it was there
last import it was missing
this import it returned

[wise hinge]

[tropic rampart]

okay it finally works to an extent.

the point lights work

the static lights default to the vanilla ones

so copper torch has none, soul lantern has light blue.

[wise hinge]

[tropic rampart]

which, if the static lights are unused currently, should mean this pack works next preview or whenever they actually add them

[wise hinge]

yea

it's just not ready to be used

[tropic rampart]

still curious what it'll be like.

right now we only have the un-colourable block light, and the colourable point lights.

but the static light is presumably colourable

i wonder if it'll have the same fun lighting effects as point lights do, like being shiny on shiny blocks like gold

[wise hinge]

-# we need customization for the block light frfr

[tropic rampart]

true

[tropic rampart]

lighting-based creativity as a whole is the big area in which Minecraft is currently lacking.

VV improved that a bit, but really only for if you're interacting with the sun in some way (or with end flashes)

and even in those, they're not colourable in any way. Stained glass doesn't have coloured shadows so you can't really do much besides just playing with shadow shapes.

[willow needle]

I think if Mojang added a colored light feature that penetrates the colored glass, it would be much better.

[tropic rampart]

yeah. That + a stronger light source for point lights, or some other form of directional lighting.

so you wouldn't need to rely on the sun for any decently sized builds.

point lights alone already do a lot, but they're limited to things where the light covers a small area.

[blazing whale]

Pixelated shadow?

[tropic rampart]

yeah this is just vanilla VV.

with the experimental point lights enabled

I hope they get added properly, but i also hope we continue to get other forms of lighting-based creativity options, too.

imagine being able to build a cinema with a proper projector that's some light source shining through coloured glass and projecting a simple moving image onto a wall.

[languid mirage]

It is.

I’m just curious about if the light propagation will be the same as point lights. Or if it will just be coloured flood-fill for block light.

[tropic rampart]

whats light propagation means in this case

like, the way the light affects blocks?

[sonic canopy]

WIP HDR panorama for vibrant visuals. It is affected by bloom, color grading & tonemapping of your installed VV pack just like the vanilla one. I managed to disable auto-exposure but I still need to counteract the effects of pre-exposure to make the cubemap sides consistent in brightness

[tropic rampart]

because i just hope that they make it so all light sources have the same light effect on blocks as point lights and global light sources do now.

as right now, every non-global light source is just flat. It looks the same as fancy, but with a yellow filter because VV light is more yellow than fancy light.

[sonic canopy]

I'll release the tools & documentation needed for making HDR panoramas once I have the workflow perfected

[wise hinge]

holy

that's so cool

[sonic canopy]

I wish we had the tools to make HDR screenshots in-game. Pretty sure the existing vanilla VV panoramas were made in-game with some kind of internal HDR screenshot functionality

[languid mirage]

The way that light spreads.

The effect light has on Blocks etc - is based off of the PBR material sets of the specific blocks. Not the light propagation.

Shadows, volumetric light shafts, refraction and reflection of light are all different effects of light propagation.

Ummmm… 😳

[proud pike]

Typical point light behaviour when too many got on screen

It wasn't this extreme the last time I used point lights

But something similar did occur when you way too many of these rendering at once

[tropic rampart]

Something i miss from early VV previews is that the deeper you went underwater, the darker it got and there were no caustics if you got deep enough

They should have kept that and just increased the depth at which it happened

That, and the End being darker by default, making the flashes more impactful.

[thorn bison]

but there are no caustics past a certain depth

[tropic rampart]

Are there? How deep do you need to be for that? I thought they were always visible if the sky was exposed

[thorn bison]

wait nvm

i thought it worked like that but i think i was just in a ravine

[tropic rampart]

Yeah :<

[white willow]

My assumption for static light is that it'll be colored floodfill lighting

Which is a massive W

[proud pike]

[tropic rampart]

I hope so.
but i assume it probably won't have the fancy VV light effects? idk how it'd work tbh, you know light stuff better than me.

[white willow]

Well floodfill inherently cannot cast shadows

[tropic rampart]

yeah but i mean like, shiny

no shadows make sense.

[white willow]

It could

Potentially

[tropic rampart]

o. I hope it does.

[white willow]

Ok it can't do specular

But it could do normals

[tropic rampart]

that's one of my biggest issues with VV, block light is just flat.

if you're in a cave, the nether, or in a building, the light on blocks is flat, same as in fancy.

[white willow]

Well... there might be a way to get specular highlights but I haven't seen it done

Only influencing normal maps

I also don't think default VV would use this feature

[tropic rampart]

sad

so interior lighting will remain flat :(

[white willow]

Regardless if it influenced normals, it wouldn't matter in default vv anyway

[tropic rampart]

yeah

[white willow]

Default VV doesn't use normals 😔

So regardless lighting would be flat

[tropic rampart]

i mean, i still want coloured lighting in vanilla VV for everything

but yeah

flat lighting is unfortunate

i just want stuff like gold blocks to be shiny underground, too.

not just on the surface

[white willow]

You can get non flat lighting without colored lights or normal/specular influence

You just need to fine tune the hell out of your lighting curves

For example I use a custom lighting curve here. Which prioritizes lighting at the base of the block, giving a more lively feel to lighting. VVs blocklight is just bright and flat

[tropic rampart]

yeah.

VV underground is i think the same as fancy, but yellow.

[thorn bison]

what's a lighting curve?

[white willow]

Basically you can create a "curve" for the lighting which allows you to explicitly set bright and dark points

It's just really sensitive depending on how you do it

So for example my custom curve prioritizes illumination closest to the light and makes the edge of block light softer

[thorn bison]

so is that basically colour grading?

[white willow]

No

[thorn bison]

is that a new file then?

[white willow]

Well in this case I used a shader lol. That's not VV

but

[thorn bison]

oh lol

[white willow]

It would be cool if we could customize it

VV uses a custom curve for their block light however it's just a relatively flat curve

[tropic rampart]

VV vs fancy

like, VV is very yellow.

[white willow]

It's also way brighter

[tropic rampart]

yeah

[white willow]

Like it extends out really far

[tropic rampart]

a bit too much tbh.

fancy transitions from bright to dark smoother

non-smooth lighting comparison

fancy on the left this time

[thorn bison]

it's the same brightness but the light's falloff distance is much further

[sonic canopy]

If they go with LPV or something similar that involves a 3d grid, then they could actually do specular

[languid mirage]

What it needs is volumetric fog interaction. Even with no shadows, that will help enhance VV a lot. Not just player builds - but the underground especially.

Assuming we get fog for underground……

[tropic rampart]

yeah, it's weird that caves don't even have fog.

you shouldn't be able to see the skybox out of the edge of your render distance while underground

[graceful iron]

very nice GI

[iron moon]

lamp

[quick beacon]

Wow

[long ruin]

lump

[wise hinge]

🔥

[white willow]

interesting. tbh i have not done enough research into lpv. i wanna do it in my shader eventually

i know null has a demo for it

or at least he has resources for implementing it

same with DH support. DH support sucks so much. i tried and immediately did not have a good time

[deft cradle]

Pack?

[willow needle]

Strawberry Vibrant Enhanced V2.1

[iron moon]

I love rtx water so much

[wise hinge]

I love vv water so much /j

[thorn bison]

lol

[wise hinge]

I love extremely blurry taau 🗣

[thorn bison]

i prefer bilinear but fr fr 🗣️

[wise hinge]

[proud pike]

real

[simple tendon]

Dam

[white willow]

I like TAA cuz I hate no anti aliasing. The blurriness is kinda ok at 1440p and 75% but it's definitely not good lol

[quasi trench]

i prefer bilinear 75% of 4k over taau

[slate geyser]

Hello smart vibrant visuals enjoyers.

Anybody knows why using same exact texture files on data driven blocks result on different look for them than vanilla?

this

because my only bet is that its just classic bedrock mojank 💀

[thorn bison]

yes I believe that is classic mojank 🫠

[slate geyser]

lets go

the data driven block they adedd is shit becayse its a competing system that does not inherit from the existing, instead it implement a similar but not equal set of features

[silent zealot]

If I had to guess, ambient occlusion or gamma exponent.

[slate geyser]

ill check but ive noticed similar issues and inconsistencies without VV so im skeptical

[silent zealot]

If without VV that only reinforces it no?

Because sand is exactly like that.

[slate geyser]

not with that block no

ive seen weird stuff when using custom models not being affected by vanilla blocks AO

[slate geyser]

mind reminding me where to set those? pretty sire I've seen them before but havent touched this in a while so i forgot

[slate geyser]

I just tried messing around with both

and nope

[languid mirage]

Still patiently waiting to see Waves be possible on Lava….

[tropic rampart]

Let us do waves on any block.

[languid mirage]

Idk about that.. 😂 but if custom fluid blocks are possible, those should be able to have Waves added aswell.

[arctic drift]

right now i think ambient occlusion doesnt work right (at least in preview)

it seems to be always on even if you set it to false

[slate geyser]

I set it to true as all full blocks should have

Also ambient occulsion never worked with blocks that have custom models

They can cast it on others but won't have it on themselves

Regardless of VV

[thorn bison]

are you using normal maps?

[willow needle]

Yes

[thorn bison]

looks great

[arctic drift]

It did used to work but it would just work differently from vanilla full blocks

I think they broke it even more in a recent update

They made some ambient occlusion changes in the most recent preview but it doesn't seem like much was fixed

[slate geyser]

Do you know which version?

Tbh I don't even know how to downgrade this game, it auto updates too

[silent zealot]

🥀 Bro could have made a post.

[tribal trail]

🤫

[tropic rampart]

how much can you de-VV-ify a VV?

like, make it look as close to non-VV as possible, while being VV

[thorn bison]

no idea

interesting experiment

[tropic rampart]

like, you certainly can't get it 100%, because of the shadows being different (unless you play with shadows off i guess).

but there's probably changes VV makes that can be undone with a pack.

still a shame we can't turn off smooth lighting when VV is on

Like, you can see non-smooth lighting VV for like a second if you have smooth lighting off and enable VV, but it quickly switches to smooth lighting :<

[proud pike]

Prizma rework?

Looks sick

[tribal trail]

nuh uh

[proud pike]

New pack 🔥 🔥

[tribal trail]

yup

[proud pike]

?

W

[tribal trail]

but it's still very retty

:))

[proud pike]

Fs

[silent zealot]

Didn't even post the link 🥀

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-gif-25117042

[thorn bison]

mb the pack's not out yet

[silent zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[tribal trail]

thank you :>

[long ruin]

dark visuals

[thorn bison]

now i must know

[silent zealot]

https://discord.com/channels/523663022053392405/1413926354793140234 Go check it out.

[deft cradle]

does anyone why normals on blockbench cut off

[sonic canopy]

Second attachment is in XYZ HDR

[long ruin]

[cedar pumice]

Discord shows it better than opening it in my browser

[quasi trench]

maybe iphone 17 will show it

[proud pike]

looks right on Mac, chrome browser

[proud pike]

unlikely

very much hdr on the screen

discord zoom in also works

[quasi trench]

):

[cedar pumice]

That’s what it’s supposed to look like?

Oh yea im stupid

Oops

[proud pike]

yes

[woven mauve]

Is that a point light on a custom block? If so, how?

[iron moon]

No point lights, just rtx

[long ruin]

rays of tracing

[deft cradle]

Preview?

[thorn bison]

This one looks right in my browser

[thorn bison]

Just did an interesting colour grading experiment.

[graceful iron]

playable

[thorn bison]

fr

[quasi trench]

minecraft 1960s edition

[thorn bison]

lol

[long ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/it-is-acceptable-gus-fring-acceptable-better-call-saul-acceptable-gif-25806361

[languid mirage]

This + a good horror addon could be peak cinema.

[thorn bison]

okay now i HAVE to try this

can anyone recommend me good horror add-ons

[languid mirage]

Official cave dweller is a fat W.

But the man from the fog in Dwellers 2.0 add on is also pretty freaky

[thorn bison]

tyyy

I'll have a look later

[thorn bison]

what does the new file format look like?

[wise hinge]

no idea
it looks like they have just removed sampleWidth and updated the version to 1.21.120

[white willow]

Wait

Why was that removed

Bruh

[proud pike]

They added dithering to glass now too

[white willow]

WHY

[proud pike]

“If the camera gets too close”

[white willow]

Yea but the dithering changes seem to be very unpopular no?

[sonic canopy]

We don't know if it's using dithering tho, alpha fade would make more sense

[white willow]

There's a dithered pattern

[proud pike]

With what they are doing with animals and sugar cane, that’s the expectation

[white willow]

Or well maybe it's different for glass

Still a strange change because these have all been unpopular

[tribal trail]

but doing dithering on entities makes more sense

[proud pike]

I’m just wondering why

A bit of clipping is fine tbh

Doesn’t exactly ruin the gameplay

[tribal trail]

i like mobs getting transparent

i just don't like how much transparent they are

[white willow]

It's not a bad change just people report it being disorienting and weird at times and it should not be force enabled without a toggle

The biggest issue with these changes are they aren't optional

[ornate hollow]

Point light supported custom block!!!!!!!

Very very happy!

Lamp!

Furniture add-on

[sonic canopy]

I wonder if it works in rtx

https://tenor.com/view/смеётся-gif-13039099899614466827

[pale urchin]

Point light support dropped on vanilla blocks!!!!!

[sonic canopy]

If point lights can still be added to vanilla blocks and they just removed default light settings, imo it's not a big deal, as point lights are only meant to be used by custom VV packs and aren't accessible in vanilla VV without a toggle

[silent zealot]

as point lights are only meant to be used by custom VV packs
Says who?

[tribal trail]

they are literally unstable and unoptimized, why would they want them to be in vanilla vv

[sonic canopy]

They are still experimental, behind a "RenderDragon features for creators" toggle so currently they are meant to be used by custom packs only.

Also because of that statement from the frequently asked questions in VV for java server (ik it only applies to java but we don't know that it won't be the same for bedrock)

Q: Colored light?
A: No.

[silent zealot]

unstable and unoptimized
Me when RTX

[silent zealot]

I knew you were gonna bring that up.

[silent zealot]

They are still experimental, behind a "RenderDragon features for creators" toggle
Literally every deferred rendering feature was that.

[tribal trail]

and they are slowly killing it

[silent zealot]

I don't trust the Java devs anymore.

[silent zealot]

It is currently yes, but they can optimise it.

[tribal trail]

nice joke

[silent zealot]

99% faith, 1% chance.

[tropic rampart]

imo they still should be available in vanilla VV.

not doing it is just "hey, we could do the thing people want, but what if we just don't?"

[silent zealot]

There is a reason why the Java devs omitted the reason. They don't think that's a good reason/excuse to give to the general public.

[sonic canopy]

Back then every deferred feature was also only meant to be used by creators and not by regular players, cuz vanilla VV didn't exist yet. The fact is, point lights are currently not usable in vanilla VV because they are still experimental, and when they eventually leave experimental, it's not guaranteed that vanilla VV will include them by default, without a custom VV pack, because of their statement against colored lighting

[silent zealot]

You are literally supporting the point. Everything used by creators will literally be used by vanilla eventually. There hasn't been any creator only feature that vanilla doesn't utilise aside from Editor Mode and Scripting.

[tropic rampart]

waves in VV, technically.

[sonic canopy]

What about orbital offset

[silent zealot]

Again, we know the Java devs cannot be trusted because:

• They removed the reasoning, why would they do that.
• End flashes are outside of VV

VV parity isn't existing.

[silent zealot]

Truth nuke.

[tropic rampart]

but yeah, they should have coloured lighting, including point lights in vanilla VV.

[silent zealot]

Yet. We dont know.

[sonic canopy]

emissive desaturation

[tribal trail]

waves, soft shadows, aces

[tropic rampart]

i think it makes sense to have creator only features for some things, but coloured lighting is major enough that it should be used by vanilla VV.

also, imo waves and soft shadows should both be added as options in vanilla VV.

off by default

[silent zealot]

You can't say aces when they use their own colour grading profile or whatever its called I forgot nor shadows.

[tropic rampart]

but why not let us just enable them?

[silent zealot]

Because they still utilise those effects.

None of that is definite proof that they wont turn on point lights for BEDROCK VV

You guys seem to be deadset that it will never happen.

[tribal trail]

but they are showing mojang is adding features that are not used mainly by vanila vv and are for creators

i think they will add more features focused on what creators need

that vanilla vv won't use

[silent zealot]

Soft shadows were first...then pixel shadows.

[silent zealot]

It is not definite proof.

You guys are acting like it is 1000% never going to happen.

[tropic rampart]

I mean, it's possible they decided vanilla VV will only use static_light

because it'll be less performance intensive

[silent zealot]

Maybe, maybe not.

[sonic canopy]

Gatekeeping generic tonemapper customisation 😔

[silent zealot]

Maybe static light for lava and point light for...non full.

[tropic rampart]

i still really hope they add point lights for vanilla VV

[tribal trail]

https://tenor.com/view/black-cat-walking-cat-walk-glamour-glamorous-gif-606557101916811110

[tropic rampart]

as like, right now, light sources are the big thing about VV that just doesn't look that good.

the global light sources look great, they have all the fancy lighting effects on blocks, they have the right colours, etc.

but placed light sources don't really look that good, idk if i'd even say they're better than in fancy.

[iron moon]

why this looks so yellow

like Hollywood Mexico

[woven mauve]

Is local_lighting.json in the vanilla pack files? Could someone check if they are still in there and just changed to the currently non-functional static_light?

[languid mirage]

This is what I’m thinking.

Then again - Point lights seem to be meant for Torches or even Glow berries.

Whereas static light could just be for solid blocks, which cannot cast shadow if set as a point light.

[tropic rampart]

seems like point lights are gone even with a resource pack that's trying to add them.

[tribal trail]

not true

they work fine with prizma

[tropic rampart]

huh. odd. I made this pack for last preview using the new format they showed for it.

and it worked last week

[tribal trail]

prizma with old format works fine

[tropic rampart]

oh wait maybe my settings have point lights off hold on

i forgot they got reset

yeah

okay point lights work

and it seems like their issues from last week have been fixed

but vanilla VV no longer has them :(

i really hope this is a temporary thing and they bring them back, as point lights feel way too important to just leave out. VV feels unfinished without them, the surface and end get nice light effects while caves get "fancy but yellow and less smooth"

[deft cradle]

hey al3xis i have a question my night was looking perfectly fine and dark now it seems broken not sure what i did wrong

[deft cradle]

it fixed itself nvm wth

[sonic canopy]

Now that we have a working reshade, once could make a reshade add-on that'd enable HDR display support in RTX and VV

VV supports depth buffer in reshade, so here's a depth of field filter

[white willow]

That's fire

[quasi trench]

gasp

cooking time

[sonic canopy]

I think we're gonna need to make a custom add-on to support depth buffer in the vanilla graphics

[wise hinge]

🔥 🔥

[sonic canopy]

The first time renderdoc is running in bedrock on windows

[woven mauve]

was bored, put soul fire inside honey w/ rtx
-# this is using the vibrant visual mers maps, with some adjustments to emissives so they actually look right

[deft cradle]

blueberry grove/blueberry blossom

[quasi trench]

preview experience was strange on playstation 5 pro so im on my phone

pointlight low setting still viable but things be brokey

they don’t work at all on my PlayStation 5 pro anymore

the screen tearing when going above 60fps is still present there too, though slightly improved possibly

water does feel noticeably better

i wonder how iphone 17 pro max would run this

[analog totem]

tf is veka cooking with reshade😭

i used to use reshade back in 2021 in simulator games

[tribal trail]

i used to use reshade with the sims 4

[sonic canopy]

I think in bedrock the bigger utility of reshade is in making a custom addon that would enable HDR display support for VV and RTX

[thorn bison]

what's reshade?

[sonic canopy]

There is already an addon that can enable HDR output, but it simply applies reverse tonemapping to the SDR image so the colors are wrong. It would be better to make a custom addon specifically for bedrock that would use the true HDR color buffers

[sonic canopy]

Basically, a program that can be injected into any game and it would add post processing shaders that can operate with color and depth of pixels. So, it can add effects like bloom, SSAO, SSGI, SSR, DOF, dithering, color LUTs etc

[sonic canopy]

This is an example of a DOF effect (that blur is created by reshade in-game)

[wise hinge]

took some shots with reshade

bros lonely

fxaa is nice

[ornate hollow]

I wAnt totryssgi with vv

[glossy quest]

Install reshade.

[wise hinge]

-# gaussian blur

[pale urchin]

What gaussian blur?

[wise hinge]

? reshade

[quick nymph]

What's being blurred?

[wise hinge]

entire scene.
It's not noticeable tho

this is probably more noticeable

I was using 0.1 in the previous one

[thorn bison]

I've noticed that in order for your lighting/atmospheric/colour grading files to be properly applied, you need a client biome for all the biomes it'll be applied to, so I've been going through every biome and writing client biome files with a blank components list. Is there any better way to do this?

[wise hinge]

uemboss.fx

[ornate hollow]

How reshade work?

[sonic canopy]

Are you asking how to install it or how exactly reshade functions and how it's able to do what it does?

[ornate hollow]

The second

It was like replace the whole game shader, can even add graphics techniques feature

[graceful iron]

Afaik it’s like a post processing type of thing

[humble holly]

it's always been possible to use renderdoc on the UWP version of the game though it's very involved

not that it matters anymore

[icy mica]

1. Enable loopback via CheckNetIsolation LoopbackExempt -is -n=Microsoft.MinecraftUWP_8wekyb3d8bbwe
2. Launch Game and suspend it shortly after (can either be done with minimizing to taskbar or programatically w/ ntdll's NtSuspendProcess)
3. Inject RenderDoc
4. Unsuspend app
5. Capture via the RenderDoc Desktop UI since the keybinds won't work on UWP (and the file destination won't be accessible)
6. Profit

[humble holly]

ya gotta manually inject the renderdoc dll to apply protections

as well

[icy mica]

Really? I don't remember having ever done that tbh

[humble holly]

well i did and it's permanent

so idk

[icy mica]

yeah

[pale urchin]

Oh that reminds me. We don't have to use the loopback exemption anymore for connecting to Minecraft from a local app now, don't we

[icy mica]

Nope!

The GDK version seems to be just as flexible as any regular Win32 app in terms of Windows API access

[mellow umbra]

This is fantastic and terrifying imo. If the JS scripting engines they use have any ace or even just their own code does its way more fucked up now

[humble holly]

in a scenario where a JS engine has an ACE you're worried about minecraft

[mellow umbra]

It actually did for awhile lmao

Qjs

[humble holly]

i heard in this server they might move to v8 at some point

if an ACE in v8 is found the block game is the least of our concerns

[icy mica]

At least they overhauled packet deserialization before the switch

[humble holly]

what did they overhaul

or was this pre 1.21.80

[icy mica]

This was a while ago, wouldn't be able to date it. I'm referring to the switch over to expected-like error handling and error tracing that they added to packet deserialization.

[humble holly]

dat stuff

[blazing whale]

Strawberry Vibrant Enhanced V2.1 with Reshade

[wise hinge]

want control over weather-related things via vv resource pack

[fading kindle]

are these path tracing?

[fading kindle]

love it.

[sonic canopy]

No, it's vibrant visuals

[fading kindle]

amazing

[quick nymph]

Does this actually give creators control over weather related stuff?

[wise hinge]

yea

[thorn bison]

i have to try this now

[wise hinge]

[thorn bison]

is that the entire file, or does this go into your global atmospherics?

[wise hinge]

um it's internal config

[thorn bison]

ah

so you can't change it i assume

[wise hinge]

yup you can't change it by resource pack

[thorn bison]

😭

mojang please

[wise hinge]

[bitter cargo]

valve please fix

[quick nymph]

I thought you can change internal configs via packs, after all isn't that how strawberry used to do it?

[wise hinge]

no

[quick nymph]

How'd strawberry do it then?

[wise hinge]

just replacing existing configs with custom configs, not via resource pack

[wise hinge]

filmic anamoraph sharpen + fxaa + border

[tribal trail]

They never did? Strawberry started as a mod to vv that changed config files and you would have to replace game files yourself

Then they released color grading pack that was just simple color grading pack

[quick nymph]

Oh, I thought the files were included in the resource pack

[tribal trail]

And now they are making their vv pack

[quick nymph]

I didn't realise that you had to manually replace them

[tribal trail]

No that’s impossible

[wise hinge]

[fading kindle]

i wanna giving up relying solely on betterRTX for shooting

[wise hinge]

betterRTX is better

I don't want to shoot vv's flowing water in caves lol
It's just grey

[wise hinge]

milk🗣️

[thorn bison]

moobloom confirmed 🔥 🗣️ 🔥 🗣️

[wise hinge]

🔥

[barren sedge]

the black spot, idk why it appears and i cant make it render in the good way

[thorn bison]

what do you mean "the good way"?

[barren sedge]

like removing the dark spot

like this

[white willow]

i might be wrong but i think AO is broken on custom leaves

[barren sedge]

awwwn mann

guess im gonna make it opaque-

[white willow]

i might be wrong though

[thorn bison]

what's your light dampening set to?

[barren sedge]

whats tha-

[thorn bison]

it determines how much light the block stops

[barren sedge]

ohhh

how much shud i put it to?

[white willow]

oh that could be too high

[thorn bison]

mess around with values between 1-5

[barren sedge]

alr

[white willow]

this is neat

shaping could be a bit smaller tho

[thorn bison]

woah

how'd u make that

did u just draw it?

[white willow]

a custom noise texture

using a voroni fractal noise

(or worley)

[thorn bison]

looks awesome

[white willow]

i think im gonna go back, redo the noise, make it smaller and add a bit more dpeth in the color

but this is the same noise used for volumetrics

just the volumetrics version is in 3D

heres what the texture looks like without editing

[thorn bison]

when will we get transparency on clouds 🙏

[white willow]

i tried doing transparency with this actually

crashed the game

[barren sedge]

it fixes the black block issue

but now im not getting shadows

[thorn bison]

😭

[barren sedge]

like this

[thorn bison]

try higher values

[white willow]

it might work i did have the image file formatted wrong

[thorn bison]

remove face culling

[white willow]

you can have transparency. it just doesnt do anything

[barren sedge]

oks

[thorn bison]

but whyyyy 😭

[white willow]

no idea

so

update

transparency works in vanilla

but not VV

[thorn bison]

ik, thats why i want it so badddd

[wise hinge]

[white willow]

im making a feedback post

brb

https://discord.com/channels/1138536747932864532/1416823950633205860

[thorn bison]

tyyy 🔥

[wise hinge]

voted

[white willow]

idk if my textured clouds will be popular with people but i wanna try it lol

Vanilla reforged needs something for it to stand out

[thorn bison]

same

[barren sedge]

still no diff

[white willow]

cumulus clouds fr

[thorn bison]

well ambient occlusion on custom blocks has been broken for a while, so i don't think you can do much abt it :(

[wise hinge]

I had made some custom clouds using noise nodes in substance and it looks ngl
Just that vv clouds doesn't support transparency stressed tf me out lol

[barren sedge]

😭

[white willow]

thats exactly what im doing lol

i have a cool idea. but it will involve bumping the cloud resolution

which is fine

im probably gonna double the res

[thorn bison]

doesn't make it higher res

makes the clouds go on further

[white willow]

yea ik. what i wanna do tho can make use of the extra res

I wanna mix multiple noises together to get a kinda detailed cloud map

[thorn bison]

yeah i once made a massive cloud

[white willow]

so like mix of like stratus looking clouds with cumulus clouds and stuff

ill probably need at least 1024 to get what i want but

it might look insane

[thorn bison]

you gotta show us

[white willow]

will when im done

[wise hinge]

[thorn bison]

ooo

what does it look like in-game

[white willow]

not sure yety

im still debating if i wanna use perlin or not lmao

[thorn bison]

lol

[white willow]

ok this is kinda cool

various different cloud shapes

[thorn bison]

oooh

looks like real life

[wise hinge]

[white willow]

if only we could have multiple layers

[thorn bison]

i legit had a dream about multi-layered clouds in vv

[wise hinge]

huge cloud

[thorn bison]

wait till u see the one i made

[white willow]

the clouds are all so different and varied. it makes the sky a bit less bland imo

this has made me realize my waves need work

[wise hinge]

me when enjoyed making clouds
Spent 4 days making them

[thorn bison]

oh wow

what was the result

[white willow]

this is mine

super simple

[wise hinge]

cool

[thorn bison]

what's that software?

[white willow]

adobe substance designer

[wise hinge]

very old pics tho

[thorn bison]

these are some of the clouds in my abandoned side project

[thorn bison]

(it goes on further behind me)

[wise hinge]

WOW. HUGE

[thorn bison]

here's the full size:

[thorn bison]

(it doesn't all fit in my render distance)

[wise hinge]

would be cool if vv clouds have roundness on corners

[white willow]

sun glare shape is fun to mess with

[quick nymph]

I would go even simpler and design the texture in blender with a few simple noise nodes

[languid mirage]

8/10 looks great.

Would be a 10 if it wasn’t for the grey patches.

[white willow]

It's something I'm gonna trial run. I like the idea of clouds having some "texture" to them

But thanks

[white willow]

It's never been done before as far as I can tell so let's see how it goes

[tropic rampart]

Series S reflections on PC

(renamed the console_1 config in reflection_configs to reflection_configuration.pc.json)

or maybe console_2 is series S actually.

ultra seems mostly the same between the 2, but everything below that doesn't work at all on high, so console_1 might be xbox one? i'd have assumed "console" is xbox one, "console 1" is XSX, "console 2" is XSS and "console 3" is PS5, but that seems to be wrong

ok yeah "console" and "console_3" are XSX and PS5, it seems? Not sure on which is which.

not sure why one of them is more foggy than the other, either

i haven't touched the settings, just swapped the reflection config file.

this thing did not need so many config files. Just do "mobile", lastgen", "currentgen" and "pc", why does it need a separate file for every platform, that's what leads to VV being buggy and inconsistent

Nintendo Switch VV config appears almost identical to Xbox One: it doesn't work at all unless "ultra" is selected, in which case it's a similar reflection to what you get on Series S right now. Probably not exactly the same, but the end result is pretty much the same.

[silent zealot]

I can double check the file history because they used to name them after the platform.

[tropic rampart]

o, weird.
they name all the others after the platform still

just these 4 aren't.

either way, they need to fix the console_2 ones. Series S should not have such terrible reflections.

and it doesn't seem like a particularly difficult bug to fix?

[silent zealot]

console_1 and the rest were added in 1.21.90.20 but console was 1.21.70.24

[silent zealot]

There used to be renderer\reflection_configs\reflection_configuration.console_gen8.json as well as well as gen8_5 and gen9

[tropic rampart]

huh. strange.
so is it known like, which is which here

because console_2 is the exact same as the series S from my testing.
console_1 i assume is xbox one, but it doesn't match PS4. I'm only assuming that because it's worse than console_2.
console and console_3 have properly functional reflections.

[silent zealot]

Based on the target resolution:
1280x720
1920x1080
2560x1440

[tropic rampart]

mojang should just replace the console_2 reflection config with either console or console_3 (ideally console, because less foggy i guess)

or change all of them because it's odd that the XSS/last gen "ultra" isn't available at all on PC, and that anything below "ultra" doesn't work at all on last gen.

instead, PC "medium" is already better than "ultra" on those platforms, and PC "low" just doesn't have reflections at all i think?

[wise hinge]

oh no

[thorn bison]

realistic 👍

[wise hinge]

[quasi trench]

🏳️‍🌈

[glossy quest]

Hello gays

[quick nymph]

When the clouds start to rain acid

[deft cradle]

its raining candy

https://tenor.com/view/turbo-fast-candy-dream-works-animation-gif-9057120

[wise hinge]

lol

[wise hinge]

What's interesting about this is I had a completely different shape and color (all of them are white)of clouds texture.
I just forgot to convert greyscale to rgba (rgba merge)

[thorn bison]

woahh

what pack?

[wise hinge]

mr.nocturnedoggy woof woof pack /j

[thorn bison]

lol

dm me when it's out

i def wanna check it out

[wise hinge]

very soon

[thorn bison]

epic

[wise hinge]

rotated sun by 45° inspired by photon :3

[thorn bison]

omg this looks insane